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It is Tuesday, August 26, 2025. My name is Emma Vigland in for Sam Cedar and this is the five time award winning Majority Report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, usa. On the program today, in Trump's continued attacks on central bank independence, he says he's firing Fed Governor Lisa Cook, who he legally cannot fire unless there's wrongdoing. So what do you do? Let's make something up on that front, too. The stock market tumbled in reaction to this news, particularly US Long term bonds, indicating a global lack of confidence in US Financial governance and the dollar. Trump's steep tariffs on India take effect today, effectively raising the rate to 50%. This is because India is continuing to buy Russian oil, by the way. And I don't know how this squares with the anti Ukraine sentiment of his base, but who knows? Germany and Canada strike a minerals deal, circumventing past US Trade relationships, another predictable outcome of Trump's tariff war. Ludnick says Trump is thinking about equity stakes in defense contractors with U.S. taxpayer money. You know, the industry that doesn't get enough U.S. taxpayer money. TRUMP wants to prosecute flag burning. The extremely well established Supreme Court precedent on this front would take issue with that executive order. J.B. pritzker and Chicago leaders stand united in opposition to Trump's threats to take over the city. A federal judge blocks the immediate deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, telling the administration they are, quote, absolutely forbidden from sending him to Uganda. That's some good news. And here's some more. A Utah judge says the state must redraw its congressional maps, which could add a Democratic seat around Salt Lake City, which they currently have kind of divided in half. Marco Rubio is attacking Stanford University's student newspaper for pieces that oppose genocide. Israel's far right minister of Settlements, who there's a theme here, has been accused of sexually abusing her daughter, says west bank annexation will start this month. It's already started. And lastly, UAW workers at GE Aerospace authorize a strike which could happen as early as next week. All this and more on today's Majority Report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It is News Day Tuesday and we've got a news day for you. Straight up, no chaser. Hello, Brian. Hello, Matt. Lots of news to get to, per usual, although like it's still, it's always the same, like four stories, genocide in Gaza, Trump's attempts to take over cities in an authoritarian manner, fascist immigration policies and the economy collapsing. We're kind of just cycling through those four at this point, but they keep developing every day. And last night there was a major escalation in Trump's attack on the independence of the Fed. Another feature theme here, which is a part of him really tanking our economy because as he continues to attack the independence of the central bank, with every attack comes more freakouts from the investment community that needs our central bank and our financial data to be independent of the whims of an insane man in the White House. Because this is the bedrock of confidence in the United States economy is that we have accurate data and Fed independence. So Trump decided that it's time to fire the Federal Reserve. Governor posted this on Truth Social in official White House letterhead. Although the legality of this is, is very dubious. We're going to be talking about that in just a sec. Using his authority under Article 2, he fires her of her position. And basically at the bottom it says the Federal Reserve has a tremendous responsibility for setting interest rates and regulating reserve and member banks. The American people must be able to have full confidence in the honesty of the members entrusted with setting policy and overseeing the Federal Reserve. That's a great sentiment. People tend to agree with that. The problem is, is that Trump's assessment of who provides him with full confidence.
Matt
Is basically, why is the black lady running the bank?
Emma Vigland
Well, that's the other angle and I want to get to Jeffries statement on this, but Trump's obsessed with targeting black leaders, black women in prominent roles in civil service. Lisa Cook is the latest. But prior to this he went after Carla Hayden, who was the librarian of Congress and fired her. And Gwen Wilcox, the NLRB member, which her firing has prevented the National Labor Relations Board from reaching a quorum, effectively allowing the. Try the, the court system or the arbitration system set up to not function so that employers can union bus without recourse.
Matt
But also Westmore.
Emma Vigland
Westmore. And he's attacking with his attacks on cities. Karen Bass. Right. Like Brandon Johnson.
Matt
I mean, you know, it's, I saw a statement from Brandon Johnson and it is, it's. There's this thing where you can tell he wants to put the emphasis on a wider sort of attack than just on himself personally as a black man. I think there's like, I think that's a good instinct to do cuz I think everyone needs to see like the implications of this. But it is also just patently obvious that Trump is singling out black leaders.
Emma Vigland
It's two bit clan shit. And it's from Shadow President Stephen Miller and Donald Trump with the auto Sharpie.
Matt
We should start big time racist too.
Emma Vigland
Trump's a big time racist Miller. But we'll show later the how he's being just handed executive orders. I mean the pitch time for these actions must be 15 seconds before he gets on board with it. He's the finding of these folks and singling of them out feels very Stephen Miller to me. But Trump is overall just really pissed because interest rates remain high. And as a recap for people, interest rates in the immediate aftermath when Covid hit were like they dropped them down to basically zero percent because the economy had slowed so much that they wanted to heat it up. But since really early 2022, the Fed has been raising interest rates to combat inflation. Now, Covid did cause inflation. There were shocks and disruptions to the supply chain because of this, this global pandemic. That meant that there were work stoppages. Obviously millions of people died. There had to be precautions. So work slowed and there were bottlenecks and prices went up because we had issues on the supply side. But when those were corrected two, three years later, prices stayed high. And then you check the earnings reports or the corporate profit numbers that are made available with publicly traded companies and you see that in 2022, corporate profits hit a record around 3.5 trillion. Huh. New record. In 2024, 4 trillion in corporate profits. Meaning corporations were knowingly keeping their prices high, taking advantage of COVID shocks and they just kept raking them in. Because if inflation was hitting everybody, including all everybody at the top, wouldn't corporate profits remain the same? Do we have this chart here? I sent. This is a pretty good example here or visual for folks. I sent this in Slack, but I it's a chart with purple bars from Sherwood Here you can see this is when the pandemic hits and corporate profits go up and up and up, even amidst the economic slowdown for the rest of us and even amidst the inflation that was really hurting people's pocketbooks. So that and wages we see also lag behind profits. So since like basically May 2023, rates hit 5% and they've continued to go up and they have not gone down below that. And Trump is trying to bully the Fed into lowering rates because he wants to heat up the economy. But the problem is, is that now we're experiencing a genuine inflationary period because of the tariffs. Tariffs function as a compounding sales tax on the side of folks who are consuming it from consumer goods because the importers pass on the tariffs when it comes into the country onto wholesalers, onto retailers, and then those are passed off onto consumers. So the Fed does have legitimate, a legitimate reason to be cautious about reducing rates here as we get dire economic numbers for the past three months and we're seeing a potential recession on the horizon. So the stock market responded really poorly last night to the response to the firing, his announcement that he says he's firing Lisa Cook, the dollar keeps falling, et cetera. Because again, if you can't trust central bank independents and things like employment data, why would people want to invest in the United States economy? And the law also says Trump can't do this. So Fed governors are supposed to only be able to be removed for cause. Now Trump is making up a cause, accusing her of having, being fraudulent because she has two primary residences. You know, Republicans would never have multiple homes. Right. She's got a condo in one place and then a house in another. She's refusing to resign, as she should. This was the statement that she put out last night in response, President Trump reported to fire me for cause when no cause exists under the law and he has no authority to do so. I will not resign. I will continue to carry out my duties to help the American economy as I've been doing since 2022. She's right that he can't do so. But that's the pretext is that she has a home in Michigan and a condo in Atlanta. And she described both as a primary residence.
Matt
A little bit suspicious living in Atlanta.
Emma Vigland
If this is such a right, if this is such a criminal act by her, then press charges. They don't have charges that they're filing because he's just throwing this out there.
Matt
It's a pretext.
Emma Vigland
Yeah.
Fred Higginbotham
Same thing he did to Adam Schiff.
Sam Cedar
And Letitia James, too.
Emma Vigland
It's like one of his moves. Exactly. And he never, of course, the hypocrisy of it. It's almost like not worth going over. Like, Trump goes after mail in voting. He voted by mail in Florida.
Matt
He's been driven for legal immigration. He uses immigrant, illegal, undocumented labor for his literal, like most famous tower.
Emma Vigland
Yes. So. And wife. Right. Forgot about that. So just, it's insane. It seems like he's not going to be able to legally do it, although he will try.
Matt
But again, this is all because he wants Jerome Powell to lower interest rates. And in part, this is another embarrassment to America and how we don't have a functioning state because like Emma said, the inflation that we saw around Covid was around things that should have been dealt with through different mechanism than raising interest rates, like price controls and that sort of thing. But we don't have a government that can do that. So just like after the financial crisis where it was sort of the opposite issue, where we actually had a lot of leeway to lower rates, to negative interest rates, and that ended up instead that was to address the massive financial crisis. What should have been done was Congress paid for people to stay in their houses, not giving a whole bunch of money for speculators to play with, hoping that it would all balance out in the end. Instead, what we got was, you know, Silicon Valley bubbles, the giant banks, the to fail. Remember when that phrase was in the lexicon? Anyone remember that? And, and that's why we're here now. We're still relying on the Federal Reserve to fix all the problems with an economy. And that's because the rest of the government isn't functioning. It's just stopped functioning.
Emma Vigland
And there were efforts in terms of enforcement on the FTC side under Biden to combat this. Like, we know that they were going, they were launching investigations, Lina Khan, Jonathan Kanter, into some of the worst offenders here who took home the highest proportion of record profits, which is basically oil and gas and grocers, grocery and food suppliers like Tyson and other poultry and meat manufacturers. They were the ones that were taking home these record profits in addition to other sectors. But this was the most acute and ripping off the American consumer. And there was an attempt with enforcement. But this is the thing, when you don't have Congress that functions in a way that also is an enforcement mechanism. Not like we can't just have agencies do this and enforce the laws. We have to have legislation that improves our agency's ability to do this enforcement. But. But Congress has not been a functioning body, as Matt said, for decades. Yeah, and it's corrupted.
Matt
Talking about shovel money to like aircraft carriers and Israel, but to actually like solve the problems of, of this century. No, we're not doing. Does Anybody look, we're 24 quarter into it. Anyone think we're doing a good job? Look at China. You think they're doing a little bit better job? Look how much rail. Look at the infrastructure that that country's built.
Emma Vigland
Exactly. It's just so much waste.
Matt
We're being failed.
Emma Vigland
And when we talk about records, record amount of dark money going into PACs last election cycle meaning, and that just goes up every cycle, just exploded.
Matt
I mean, since he's united, it's like logarithmic.
Emma Vigland
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Emma Vigland
We are back, folks. We are back. Other major story of the day. So on Friday, Trump said that Chicago's next up in this performance art by the administration. I shouldn't be so flippant about it. He's testing the boundaries in his authoritarian takeover. But like, there's nothing that these National Guardsmen are doing that is beyond like just the intimidation factor and the aesthetic of fascism. Like that there's nothing to address except for Donald Trump wants to see how far he can go.
Matt
Yeah, all the justifications are hysterical hyperventilations just for politics. The same thing about the supposed border crisis, which, like, to the extent that it is, like overwhelming and a huge problem, it's because we've caused people to be displaced and also we've decided to stop taking asylum seekers from those countries that we've, you know, distressed.
Emma Vigland
And the Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has been preparing for a military deployment to Chicago for weeks. At this point, we mentioned how Trump is targeting black high profile civil servants, oftentimes the first, like black woman in one particular role. I know that was the case with the Librarian of Congress, but also in his attempted firing or announced firing of Lisa Cook, although as we said, he's prevented from doing that statutorily. We'll see how that legal fight plays out. But Trump reiterated his desire after announcing this to do this yesterday at the White House. This is when he was signing his executive orders on cashless bail and crime. And was this also the flag burning one?
Matt
Yep.
Emma Vigland
Okay. Just, I mean, for all the.
Matt
This is like a book signing.
Emma Vigland
Yeah. And the moment. Okay, keep them going. We'll play this from the beginning where you see what this process is like for his sycophants to hand the Dear Leader the piece of paper to get his name on it. A lot of these are worthless, but especially in my view, the flag burning one, which has been like, there's pretty much no ambiguity with the Supreme Court decisions. And I think that's distinct from Roe v. Wade because it's such an explicit First Amendment protection now. Never say never.
Matt
But that's the thing is like, does the Supreme Court want to decide to just completely overrule its credit? Like the whole. What do they call it? Stare decisis or, like, refer to previous decisions or whatever? Do they really want to jettison that for something stupid like this? Just because they're a little bit sensitive to the fact that in certain instances, it looks like it's more of a problem to burn the Israeli flag in America than the American flag. Like, that's really, I think, why Trump is sensitive to this.
Emma Vigland
Now, Roe v. Wade is different because there was decades of, like, basically legal vetting and, like, promoting people within the conservative legal apparatus for the explicit purpose of overturning the right to an abortion in this country. And they were successful. We'll see if that happens with flag burning. But that's a bit of an aside because in the midst of the signing spree, he addresses his desired takeover of Chicago.
Sam Cedar
Okay, let's go. Could I ask you to say exactly what this is? Of course. So, okay. Okay.
Emma Vigland
So that was just my favorite part. He has no idea what's being put in front of him. All the right wing media is obsessed with Biden and the auto pen. Biden and the auto pen. Trump may not have, like an auto pen software that signs for him, but he's basically auto Sharpie because there's nothing going on up there. And he puts no thought into anything. He does all projection, projection, projection. And also he is deteriorating mentally very quickly. Pritzker points this out in his response, but here we go.
Matt
It's gonna be very funny to see all the people say, how could you cover for Biden, cover for Trump for the next three years? Also, why is the World cup trophy there?
Emma Vigland
Dementia.
Matt
Don, get that gold world trophy.
Emma Vigland
Oh, my God. Needs another gold accessory. That's what the room needs.
Sam Cedar
So, as you've consistently identified, sir, cashless bail policies are a key driver of the disorder we see on city streets all over America. Catch and release system allows criminals to keep going back out onto the street and reoffending.
Emma Vigland
Crime is down. Crime is down.
Sam Cedar
Criminal does. It charges your attorney General with identifying jurisdictions all over the country that have cashless bail policies. And then it withholds or revokes federal funds and grants that are flowing to those jurisdictions to ensure that we're only supporting the people who have reasonable common sense policies around crime.
Fred Higginbotham
So what area does it cover?
Sam Cedar
Potentially anywhere that has a cashless bail policy. So some of the largest cities, some of the most left wing states in America.
Emma Vigland
All of them.
Matt
Right.
Sam Cedar
Illinois would be a great example of that, sir.
Fred Higginbotham
Oh, they have a great cashless bill.
Sam Cedar
You don't even have to go to court sometimes.
Fred Higginbotham
No, Illinois, I love that state.
Sam Cedar
It's a great state.
Fred Higginbotham
But it's run so badly by Pritzker.
Sam Cedar
They threw him out of the family business and he becomes governor.
Fred Higginbotham
Now he wants to run for president.
Sam Cedar
I don't think that's going to happen. Okay, we'll sign right here. Right, sir.
Emma Vigland
So important. Okay, that's it. Just the sick of the sycophants. Yes, sir. You have no idea what's being put in front of you and you're about to sign it, but yes, sir. Oh, you're, you're infinite wisdom, which is in some ways no wisdom at all. No, stupidity is wisdom in this White House. So that's just kind of his gratuitous jab at Pritzker. He also made fun of his weight. I mean, God, glass houses here. But Jamie Pritzker stood up with Brandon Johnson. Other Chicago leaders were there. You can see that's Durbin in the background. And Tammy Duckworth was there, too. They all did this joint press conference in Chicago. And the whole thing is worth a listen. But there are a bunch of really great parts here that Pritzker just nails Trump on. Obviously, he's auditioning for president in 2028. So is Newsom, but I find Pritzker to be a much more compelling option with more teeth behind him. Oh, he's got to distance himself from aipac. He's got to prove that he's a billionaire that wants to tax the hell out of other billionaires. There's a long way to go.
Matt
But he's already taken shots at municipal grocery stores. So I'm out.
Emma Vigland
You're out. I hear you, I hear you. But I'm enthusiastic about partisanship that isn't from, you know, Newsom, who was making doing photo ops of ripping up homeless encampments. Like, his level of sociopathy, I think is a. Is a pretty intense. I agree. I think pretty intense, yes. And also, just like the messaging here is great. He kicks off the speech fairly early on, debunking some statistics about crime. Here we go.
Sam Cedar
So in case there was any doubt as to the motivation behind Trump's military occupations, take note, 13 of the top 20 cities in homicide rate have Republican governors. None of these Cities is Chicago. Eight of the top 10 states with the highest homicide rates are led by Republicans. None of those states Is Illinois, Memphis, Tennessee, Hattiesburg, Mississippi have higher crime rates than Chicago and yet Donald Trump is sending troops here and not there. Ask yourself why. If Donald Trump was actually serious about fighting crime in cities like Chicago, he along with his congressional Republicans would not be cutting over $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants nationally, including cutting $158 million in funding to Illinois for violence prevention programs that deploy trained outreach workers to de escalate conflict on our streets.
Emma Vigland
He's right about that. Let's just take a look at crime rates in major cities put together here by Jeff. Scroll down all the way to the bottom where it shows the percent change in murders. Now this is, we've shown this chart that we'll show that for a sec. Go up a little bit. Now go up back. Just to give people like this is national data and I think this also bears repeating. Murder, fatal shootings, homicides nationally. This is all like different data sets using that you'll hear accusations from the folks who are lying about it, scared of their own either lying or so hysterical and scared of their own shadow that they become, you know, bloggers or something representatives. Yep. They will claim the data is incomplete. The data is incomplete on all this other. Well, it's really not. There are some cities with incomplete data. It's never some, there's some lags in reporting. But the overall trend is so significant that it would take like major, major sprite spikes in some of those cities to change the trend. And that does not that that kind of stretches credulity. This is overall from 2018 to 2024 you see huge spikes in 2020 as we know and ever since then 2022.
Matt
Because why I think some people need to spell it out.
Emma Vigland
George Floyd effect.
Matt
Yeah. Some people say it's because of the George Floyd effect. Others have maybe the sort of once in a century disruption caused by a pandemic to an entire function of society. But you know, right.
Emma Vigland
People like also increased desperation, paranoia, losing their jobs, massive disruptions to our society.
Matt
I guess the George Floyd effect wears off pretty quickly.
Emma Vigland
Right. 2023, huge declines. And then 2024 across the board, double digit, 14.3%, 12.6%, 12.2% nationally. That's the data we have for the first half of the year. Now let's go to the cities. What about the all the murders in Chicago that Trump is preventing people from by sending the. Here we go, the National Guard there. Chicago, when you compare 2025 to 2024, which was also a year where There was a significant decline, 30.6% decline for Chicago, New York City, the other city that's being targeted murders, 23.2% decrease for the first half of the year. It's, I mean, the, some of the places where you're seeing increases, Kansas City.
Matt
Milwaukee, per capita, these are, these are more cities with worse problems.
Emma Vigland
But when you look. Right, look at the difference in Milwaukee, it's. That's a percentage change that can be misleading because it's literally an increase by seven murders.
Matt
Right, right.
Fred Higginbotham
And.
Emma Vigland
The data is that are sending the National Guard. Right. It's just, it makes absolutely no sense. And that's not where Trump is sending the National Guard. So Pritzker pointing that out was pretty great. Now, this part. What is part two here, Brian? Okay. No, it's all right. This is another part of the speech. Go ahead.
Sam Cedar
Is defunding the police action measures in Illinois that protect our kids against abuse and neglect. Trump is defunding the police. To the members of the press who are assembled here today and listening across the country, I am asking for your courage to tell it like it is. This is not a time to pretend here that there are two sides to this story. This is not a time to fall back into the reflective crouch that I so often see where the authoritarian creep by this administration is ignored in favor of some horse race piece on who will be helped politically by the President's actions. Donald Trump wants to use the military to occupy a US City, punish his dissidents and score political points. If this were happening in any other country, we would have no trouble calling it what it is, a dangerous power grab. Look at the people assembled before you today behind me. This is a full cross section of Chicago's leaders from the business world, the faith community, law enforcement, education, community organizations, and more. We sometimes disagree on how to effectively solve the many challenges that our state and our city face on a daily basis. But today we are standing here united in public, in front of the cameras, unafraid to tell the president that his proposed actions will make our jobs harder and the lives of our residents worse. Earlier today in the Oval Office, Donald Trump looked at the assembled cameras and asked for me personally to say, Mr. President, can you do us the honor of protecting our city? Instead, I say, Mr. President, do not come to Chicago.
Emma Vigland
A little more.
Sam Cedar
You are neither wanted here nor needed here. Your remarks about this effort over the last several weeks have betrayed a continuing slip in your mental faculties and are not fit for the auspicious office that you occupy. Most alarming, you seem to. To lack any appropriate concern as our commander in chief for the members of the military that you would so callously deploy as pawns in your ever more alarming grabs for power as a governor. I've had to make a decision.
Emma Vigland
I liked his kind of mention. First of all, the trolling of Trump there and his declining mental faculties is fun. But at one point in the speech, he also mentions how many of the National Guardsmen are there unwillingly and could be basically prosecuted if they refused to comply with some of these orders. I think it's easy for folks to forget that Trump is, while he calls himself the top law enforcement officer in the country, falsely, that's Pam Bondi, although she acts as his proxy. He is the head of the military and his command is supposed to be respected here. And this is a part of the dance that he's doing. I think Democrats need to start to be making some friends in the military. I'm not joking here. With the authoritarian crackdown continuing, starting to talking to people behind the scenes in case the worst case scenario happens.
Matt
I mean, I feel like they've been doing that for the last 10 years.
Emma Vigland
Well, yes, but like a strategy specific for this with Donald Trump. And here's the final clip of this. This is when I guess Pritzker kind of wraps here.
Matt
This is about his response, how they're going to peacefully use every possible way to respond.
Emma Vigland
Great.
Sam Cedar
The state of Illinois is ready to stand against this military deployment with every peaceful tool we have. We will see the Trump administration in court. We will use every lever at our disposal to protect the people of Illinois and their rights. Finally, to the Trump administration officials who are complicit in this scheme. To the public servants who have forsaken their oath to the Constitution to serve the petty whims of an arrogant little man. To any federal official who would come to Chicago and try to incite my people into violence as a pretext for something darker and more dangerous. We are watching and we are taking names. This country has survived darker periods than the one that we are going through right now. And eventually the pendulum will swing back, maybe even next year. Donald Trump has already shown himself to have little regard for the many acolytes that he has encouraged to commit crimes on his behalf. You can delay justice for a time, but history shows you cannot prevent it from finding you eventually. If you hurt my people, nothing will stop me. Not time or political circumstances, circumstance, from making sure that you face justice under our constitutional rule of law.
Emma Vigland
As Dr. King once said, that's Good for me. That is Pritzker basically saying, if I become president in 2028, I'm prosecuting you guys. And I like that. I really do like that. I think that that should be the basically baseline position of Democrats going forward. Because the reason that we are at a point right now where Republicans like this feel like they can act with impunity is because Democrats have continuously rolled over regardless of what Republicans have done, whether it be the egregious, unimaginable, unspeakable crime of the Iraq war, which killed up to a million people and hurt so many of our service members. PTSD in a needless war that was manufactured by the Bush administration. Torture, war crimes, cover ups, corruption. The Democratic Party let that go. Obama comes into office. Let's time to turn the page. How about also on the financial, in the financial crisis with Wall Street. Time to turn the page. No accountability here. Well, what happens when a guy like Donald Trump gets into office? He commits crimes. There were efforts of impeachment in Trump 1.0, but after he tried to stage a coup, shouldn't Biden have tried to prosecute the guy immediately in the way that other functioning countries like Brazil are doing now? Lula, his administration is independent from the efforts to go after Bolsonaro. But that's the kind of thing that Trump, that Biden should have done, appointing basically a special prosecutor to specifically prosecute Trump for a coup attempt in January 6th. He should have been prevented from running again in the functioning democracy.
Matt
Cori Bush introduced legislation to boot out the representatives who supported the Jan6 coup. Where is she at now?
Emma Vigland
And right, exactly. And so I, I like that. That's a cocky move saying basically if I become president, justice won't escape you.
Matt
And even read the president thing. And I viewed that as like rich guy thing, which is like I have resources. Which is, this is why, this is, this is what you would want. I mean, I don't trust Pritzker. I don't trust him as a billionaire. But to extent that you want to make yourself understandable to voters as a super rich guy, it is like, oh, I have, this is why Trump actually had some success, which is like I have the sort of wherewithal materially to stand up for you in a fight. And that's exactly what Pritzker should be doing right now. Because it is, you know, how this is all gonna shake out down the line for the different people in things, you know, that's sort of secondary. Like right now there is an absolute emergency where Trump is using powers that like, sure, I think the National Guard can be imposed on states when they're say, not allowing black little girls to go into public school. This sort of thing where you create an entire fever dream about crime for campaign reasons, frankly. And now you have cities being occupied by the National Guard. Like that needs to be. Everything needs to be thrown against that. You can't half measure that. And it can't even be about like, well, he doesn't have the right to do this because like I said, like there are situations where like, yeah, I think Abe Lincoln had, he lived, should have occupied the south for a long ass time. This has to be about like what this is, which is a lie about the state of our society and a use of the military to address it.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, well, the jury is still out, but this is how you throw your weight around as a billionaire. And that I am not Pollyannish about what it's going to take to take on this billionaire class where we're at gilded age levels of incoming wealth inequality. We have to break their backs with taxation. The question is, what's the best mechanism to do it? If Pritzker chooses to, he can make a case saying, I'm the billionaire that will tax other billionaires out of existence. I shouldn't exist, my wealth shouldn't be this high and I'll reject my PAC's AIPAC connections. But he has to do that first. However, in terms of just like explicit partisanship, it's good to see versus Nancy Pelosi, you know, like when she took over as leader for the Democrats in the House in, at, at the, at the end of the Bush administration. This was not the position because there were other Democrats that were complicit in the war crimes of the Iraq war, namely the woman that was supposed to be the frontrunner in that upcoming primary in Hillary Clinton. And Obama beat her in part because of his opposition to the Iraq war. And that's going to be the litmus test for Democrats. So yes, jury's still out on Pritzker, but he's at least providing, in my view, a baseline of how Democrats should approach these criminals in the White House. This is not just, you know, Republicans win sometimes, Democrats win sometimes. These are incredible, unspeakable crimes. And it's not just against brown people in the Middle East. I mean, every administration seems to get away with that crap. But this is against American citizens and it's against American citizens in their deportation regime. And I don't even care if they're citizens. It's against our neighbors who are Americans, regardless of their status, in my view, being thrown into concentration camps in seacot in Florida, tortured and abused. This authoritarian crackdown is unconstitutional by every metric and they should be met with justice in a way that meets their crimes. And I like to see it.
Matt
And I mean just to the point about the National Guardsmen. This is a from Texas Public Radio, Dec. 6, 2024. At least 17 National Guardsmen died patrolling the southern border, including several suicides like this. This is just senseless. And you see this sort of thing going on in California, like they're sitting around just on backpacks. It's disgusting what we're doing as a government and as a country. Like just marching kids around to occupy the national mall in D.C. because like Rep. From South Carolina think it's scary to be there. It's ludicrous.
Emma Vigland
Yep. We'll wrap here with a more kind of uplifting story, at least in my estimation. So these town halls across the country have been very few and far between, in part due to the fact that the Republican Party nationally is telling its members not to do it. Don't deal with your constituents. Our whole, whole agenda is the anti democracy agenda. That would be too much democracy, too much accountability for you for stripping health care away from tens of millions of people and voting for the largest transfer of wealth to the top earners in this country ever in one bill, basically in our modern history. Don't be held accountable for that. Let's skate by. We pass the big ass ugly bill.
Matt
Don't give people the image of others being angry about it.
Emma Vigland
Yeah. Don't show how furious the public is with you, even though you're supposed to be a representative of your constituents. Right. Well, every now and again we get a Republican that feels a little bit of guilt or is getting a little bit too much heat back home and they acquiesce and they host a town hall. Now, Mark Alford's done, actually maybe one of the guys that's done this a few times if I'm not mistaken. Right. Brian, He's. I think we've covered some of his town halls before. Yeah, he's. He's done some, some other ones. So, I mean, not so much credit, but. Or perhaps I'm confusing him with a different Missouri Republican.
Sam Cedar
I don't remember this guy, the other Missouri guy. I can't remember his name right now.
Emma Vigland
But it's a different Missouri Republican. Okay, well, the people in Missouri know what's up. Basically, Alford now hosting a town hall and this guy just reams him Out. This is apparently a man named Fred Higginbotham. He's a farmer according to how he identified himself to the press. And he just rips into Alfred here.
Fred Higginbotham
A great, great grandfather helped open this university. I am pissed. And I'm pissed at you because I have emailed you because it's easier for me.
Emma Vigland
Can't make eye contact.
Fred Higginbotham
Try to talk on the phone without profanity. I would appreciate you taking your father's U.S. constitution book. Read it, study it.
Matt
I just want to say, Fred, shout out for holding the GoPro up as you say this question there. True content creator. If you want to be on the show, get touch.
Emma Vigland
I didn't even. I thought that might have been like a part of his channel chair or something like that. Oh, he's set.
Fred Higginbotham
Pick your own lines underneath it and get. Read it, study it, make your own lines underneath it and get Trump out of office. The man is a dictator. He knows nothing about what he talks about. I listened to him for about a half hour today. I got sick at all the lies he brought up. Now I'm about ready to lose my farm. Do you know why? I'm sure you don't know why.
Sam Cedar
Lose your what, sir?
Fred Higginbotham
Farm.
Emma Vigland
Farm.
Fred Higginbotham
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
Why is that, sir?
Fred Higginbotham
Because Missouri does not have wills. They have trust. They have legal zigzags and a trust most people don't know anything about. So I'm dealing with a state that's a crooked state, doesn't care about what farmers happen. The only reason why we have farmers today is because the federal government funds them. How much money of our tax money goes to farmers. Farmers work very hard, but they're funded by the federal government, not by selling groceries. That's what foster farms and all of those characters, that's where they get their money. The price of steaks, $20 a pound because of big business. You want to straighten out the budget? Start taxing corporations and the wealthy like we've been telling you. Do you think we're idiots? Do you think we don't pay taxes? Do you think that we don't have to make budgets? You talk about half truths when I listen to you. You know nothing about taking care of children because you've always had a really good paying job. You know nothing about what a working class citizen does. Come down here. Come down here and start trying to pay your medical insurance. Come down here and walk into Costco to try to feed your family, to feed your kid that's moved out to feed your great grandchildren. I had a very good job in California, and I'm able to feed my family, and it goes all the way to great grandchildren. You're not helping me. Believe me, you're not helping me. You need to take your head out of Trump's ass and start doing your representation of us.
Emma Vigland
Whoo.
Matt
I mean, that chills. That is, first of all part about farming. Any farmer knows that. That it's not. The free market gets government, massive government support. And the. The basically not taking sides for small farmers versus giant corporations means giant corporations are going to eat everyone. The other thing is, is he's exactly right about the head in the ass thing, because the representatives in government, the Republicans, you're supposed to be represented by those guys, right? Or Democrats, if you're in a blue district. They're supposed to be the ones doing the oversight.
Emma Vigland
Mm.
Matt
This whole DOE shit that is now like some sort of memory they all pretend didn't happen. That was a simulation of what all these motherfuckers should have been doing, like, in their. In their sort of mind, which is like, we're the small government. We're making sure there's no waste, fraud, abuse. You gave it to a parasite, a psycho government contractor who should have been investigated himself. You gave him the role that you should have been playing so you could, what, go fundraise? Avoid town halls? Until now. Like, it is the. We don't have a democracy here because these people are just liaisons to donors. They don't represent the people that they from districts they supposedly represent there. And they're just literally. The Doge thing is just a microcosm. They're giving it all over to corporations and billionaires. Let them do everything.
Emma Vigland
And I was wondering if this district was, you know, like a gerrymandered Kansas City district or around an urban center in Missouri. But Missouri's 4th congressional district, represented there by Alford, predominantly rural. Bush defeated Kerry there. McCain defeated Obama there. It's a largely Republican district. Cook has it at R +21, and that's the response that he's getting there. And I wrote down that quote just because it was so incredible. You want to straighten out the budget, Start taxing corporations and the wealthy like we've been telling you. Do you think we're idiots? Do you think we don't pay taxes? Do you think we don't have to make budgets? Now, we've sometimes had conversations on the show about Stephanie Kelton's great book, the Deficit Myth and MMT and how, yes, the budget does not need to be balanced in the way that it's traditionally spoken about where money, the wealthy should be taxed. Yes, but it's about taking that money out of their hands and not having that concentration of wealth. I understand.
Matt
And you can increase the money supply as well.
Emma Vigland
Right? And increasing the money supply. And I understand that argument. But from a political strategy point of view, talking about balanced budgets, Democrats can do that again, but not in the way that the Pelosi's and the pay goes and the current Democratic leadership has traditionally talked about it, which is austerity focused. How you sell common sense economics to people across the country and is you say that you're going to balance the budget by taxing the hell out of the rich. The reason that we haven't been able to make that argument within the Democratic Party is because the Democratic Party doesn't want to make that argument. But it's actually incredibly salient. As that guy says. Do you think we're idiots? Do you think we don't have to make budgets? Households understand how to budget and it's increasingly difficult. And if you want to talk about the federal government in that way, about how to sell, taxing wealthy people and then providing social services, but also using it as a fiscal responsibility cudgel, I find that to be a basically slam dunk. That's, I mean that would be the argument that wins that guy over immediately. And I don't know what his politics are, but there are a lot of people who are smaller business owners who would be more sympathetic to that than when you would say it doesn't matter at all.
Matt
Democrats can win farmers that rely on the government. And what that is is a larger, it's less budget. And actually the political economy. The economy is political. So how are we having these conversations like during the, I mean the last 10 years of like oh, where's the money? When rich people are richer than ever? We know where the money is. It's in their pockets. They're breaking records with it. We have greater inequality than the Gilded Age. We're not just reading the Gilded Age, we're topping it. We're topping the Gilded Age right now.
Emma Vigland
Maybe we're French Revolution levels.
Matt
I mean I literally think that we've never seen levels of extreme wealth inequality in the world history that have been created right now by modern capitalism. I don't think it was possible before to have the billions and billions of dollars that they have there. And Jeff Bezos says like, oh, I don't know what to do but blast it off into space. You abuse people at a mass scale. The burnout Rate for Amazon workers is crazy. He tears through people's bodies like he's some sort of warlord sending them into battle. And he is flying up with Katy Perry saying, I just have so much money. Like, we know where the money is. There's money, there's money around. Grab it. And you know what? Like, fine, you want it to be reinvested in a business. Keep. Keep business taxes lower income taxes need to be through the fucking roof.
Emma Vigland
Yeah.
Matt
Especially on billionaires, especially on multimillionaires that.
Emma Vigland
Knock them down, break their back, do it.
Matt
And every. All of politics is really like. And even including by Democrats like Hakeem Jeffries or whatever is a dance or the abundance set that just wants to naturalize that. Oh, no, I'm being practical. By accepting this unprecedented state of inequality, I'm the practical ones. Why don't you guys try to deal with these really tricky conversations and just accept that Bill Gates is going to own half the land? No, it doesn't work. It's not fucking working for anyone. People are going to be done with it one way or the other. And if it's going to be Trump, like destroying the Federal Reserve, it will be. If the Democrats don't do shit. If they keep thinking like, oh, every time we get into office, we just got to maintain it. Look, I credit Biden with the enforcement.
Emma Vigland
Stuff, but there needs to be major tax increases that were. I mean, Manchin killed it, Cinema killed it, sure. But there. That should have been a sprint at the beginning of the administration when Manchin and Cinema were on board for much bigger. Like when Biden's political capital was greater.
Matt
You have to really take this stuff out root and branch and we haven't done it, so that's why we're here now.
Emma Vigland
But it's also a way to sell. Like the genocide in Gaza is connected to this as well. That's more wealth and more of taxpayer dollars going towards genocide. You can make the case about money and allocation and resources and budgeting. That isn't one that's austerity focused. And the reason that it's only gone in that direction is because the Democratic Party is corrupted on a leadership level, save for, you know, 30, 40, whatever, 50 members of both the Senate and the House that are really fighting the good fight here. And there are members with mixed records. I get it. But. But the incentive structure is corrupting. And leadership, it's so far gone. They won't approach the idea of tax increases. And it's political malpractice tax increases on the wealthy and so, you know, if they, you want to talk about paygo, you want to talk about balanced budgets, I'm all for it. Let's reclaim that conversation. But it's about, but make it about raising revenue and reallocating resources to slaughtering babies, to making your life materially better. That is a politically salient, almost infallible argument that can cut across race, gender, geography, class based politics, ones that are about taking all of this billionaire money and giving it to you for universal child care, universal health care. That is the argument and it's staring Democrats in the face and many of them are refusing to take it. But listen to that guy. I'm reading that quote one more time. You want to straighten out the budget, start taxing corporations and the wealthy like we've been telling you. Do you think we're idiots? Do you think we don't pay taxes? Do you think we don't have to make budgets? That's the other thing. That's what's been so great about the Zoron campaign. And now Graham Platner is incorporating a lot of this. He has, you know, some carryover from Zoron's campaign. It's very encouraging. You go to their website and they explain exactly what they're going to do. No more how you going to pay for it? It's on the platform, you dummy. The free breath thing, we know how he wants to pay for it. He wants to increase the corporate tax rate to match across the river in New Jersey. It's about 4ish percentage points. Right. It's on the site. Just don't talk to people like idiots and make the math make sense to people. And that's my critique sometimes of just like how Democrats have approached the budgetary conversation is it sounds irresponsible to people. It sounds like irresponsible leadership. It's not tangible. When you make those points, I think it's a lot easier to get your agenda across.
Matt
I mean the real the rub is it has to be a sort of class war.
Emma Vigland
Right? But that, but well, yeah, the rub is like everything we've ever talked about.
Sam Cedar
And so like, I mean that's why.
Matt
The abundance thing, it is so funny to me. It is like it is this attempt to say, well, there look, there might be a problem, how unequal everything is. We just got to accept it and try to do deals and. Yeah, no, that the, the concentration of wealth isn't going to work. Like it's not. And everyone sees it. Even that guy. Yeah, well, he may be more sensitive to it because his farm's gonna get bought up by, you know, some giant agriculture conglomerate.
Emma Vigland
All right. With that, we'll wrap up the first hour of the show, head into the fun half where we will take your calls, read your IMs and do some more fun clips. Matt, what's happening on Left Reckoning?
Matt
Left Reckoning, big show tonight. Talking we had two guests, one on Nordic socialism and one with a book called War Body on the health impacts of being a veteran. So check that out. Patreon.com LeftReckoning also got a fun half for folks where Texas is still trying to ban thc. So they're living in a weird, weird place down there in freedom land. Love all the freedom going on down there. Patreon.com reckoning tonight, 7 o' clock Eastern.
Emma Vigland
Didn't Trump a few days ago say that he's gonna reconsider moving? Oh, I guess it was. He's considering moving Cannabis from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3. That would be a good thing, right? I keep forgetting something Biden didn't do. Yeah, something Biden didn't do. I doubt he will, but, I mean.
Matt
He starts doing some high profile, obvious shit that Democrats should have been doing maybe when they were in office and they the midterms could get scary again for Democrats. We haven't played the thing about their low registration. It's a broken party right now and people keep saying the leadership should step down. Don't ask the leadership to ask other Democrats to figure out how to get no confidence and remove them because they're doing the job that they want to be doing as far as I'm concerned. I don't think Chuck Schumer thinks he's doing a bad job. I don't think Hakeem Jeffries thinks he's doing a bad job. I don't think they're fighting the same fight that we are.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, that's why it's encouraging to see Graham Platner basically explicitly say that he will not support Chuck Schumer for leader if he gets elected. We'll play that probably first thing in the fun half. So we'll see you on the other side, guys. But if you can please support the show, join themjorityreport.com you can im the show. And even if you don't even want to do that, even if you just want to listen normally, although if you become a member, you get the show in podcast form ad free. It's just a nice thing to do to keep us afloat. I know wallets are tight right now but if you have a little bit of extra cash to throw our way, becoming a member is a great way to support the show.
Matt
Make up for the members whose jobs are going away because Trump used a random number generator to determine tariff policy.
Emma Vigland
Exactly. All right, guys. See you on the other side. Okay.
Sam Cedar
Emma, please.
Emma Vigland
Well, I just. I feel that my voice is sorely lacking on the majority report. Wait, look.
Sam Cedar
Sam is unpopular.
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Emma Vigland
It is Thursday.
Matt
I think you need this improvement for Sam.
Sam Cedar
Yes, please, sir. I'm gonna.
Emma Vigland
I'm gonna.
Sam Cedar
I'm gonna pause you right there.
Matt
Wait, what?
Sponsor/Ad Reader
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Sam Cedar
This, and I'll tell you why. Who was offered a tour, sushi and poker with boys. Tour, sushi and poker with boys. Who was offered a tour, sushi and poker with the boys.
Emma Vigland
Tour, sushi and poker and Tim's upset.
Sam Cedar
Tour, sushi and pulker boy. He was offered the twerk sushi.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
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Sam Cedar
Twerk, sushi and bulker with turtle boys.
Emma Vigland
Right.
Sam Cedar
Twerk, sushi, and bulk.
Emma Vigland
We're gonna get demonetized.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
I just think that what you did to Tim Pool was mean free speech.
Sam Cedar
That's not what we're about here.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about it. I think you're responsible.
Emma Vigland
I probably am in a certain way. But let's get to the meltdown here.
Sam Cedar
Sushi and poker with the boys. Oh, my God.
Matt
Wow.
Sam Cedar
Sushi. I'm sorry.
Emma Vigland
I'm losing my mind.
Sam Cedar
Someone's offered.
Emma Vigland
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
Sushi and poker with the boys. Sushi and poker with the boys.
Emma Vigland
I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid.
Sam Cedar
Think I'm like a dick.
Emma Vigland
I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
Had this debate 7,000 times.
Matt
A little kid.
Emma Vigland
I think I'm like a little kid. Think I'm like a dick.
Sam Cedar
I'm losing my mind.
Emma Vigland
Some people just don't understand.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
So I'm not trying to be a.
Sam Cedar
Dick right now, but, like, I absolutely.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
Think the US should be providing me with a wife and kids.
Emma Vigland
That's not what we're talking about here, all right? It's not a fun job tour.
Sam Cedar
That's a real thing. That's a real thing. Real thing. Willy Walker twerk. That's a real thing. That's real thing. A real thing. That's real thing. Real thing. That's a real thing. That's offered.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Rogan has done it again.
Sam Cedar
Offered. That's a real thing. I think he might be blowing it out of proportion. Real thing. Boy, twerk. That's a real thing. That's poker.
Matt
Let's go, Joe.
Sam Cedar
Sushi and poker.
Matt
Take it easy.
Sam Cedar
Sushi and poker.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
Things have really gotten out of hand.
Sam Cedar
Sushi and poker with the boys. Sushi.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
You know, have a clue as to what's going on live.
Emma Vigland
YouTube. Sam has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Sam doesn't want to do this show anymore.
Sam Cedar
Anymore.
Emma Vigland
It was so much easier when the majority report was just you.
Sam Cedar
Let's change the subject.
Emma Vigland
Rangers and Nicks are doing great now. Shut up. Don't want people saying reckless things on your program.
Sam Cedar
That's one of the most difficult parts about this show.
Emma Vigland
This is a pro killing podcast.
Sponsor/Ad Reader
I'm thinking maybe it's time to bury that hatchet.
Emma Vigland
Left his best trump. Violet twerk.
Sam Cedar
Don't be foolish and don't tweet at me. And don't the way Emma has cucked all of these people.
Matt
Love it.
Emma Vigland
That's where my heart is. So I wrote my honors thesis about it. Sorry. She wrote an honest thesis. I guess I should hand the main.
Sam Cedar
Mic to you now. You are to the right of the uniform policy.
Emma Vigland
We already fund Israel. Dude. Are you against us?
Sam Cedar
That's a tougher question I don't have an answer to. Incredible theme song.
Emma Vigland
Hi, bumbler.
Sam Cedar
Emma Viglin. Absolutely one of my favorite people.
Emma Vigland
Actually.
Sam Cedar
Not just in the game, like period.
This episode dives deep into two urgent developments in US politics: Donald Trump’s unprecedented efforts to undermine the independence of the Federal Reserve, and his escalating threats to intervene in Chicago, which Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker and local leaders are fiercely rejecting. The hosts dissect the economic, political, and racial undertones of Trump’s maneuvers, explore the systemic failings of Congress, and highlight the voices of ordinary citizens and political leaders pushing back against authoritarian overreach and endemic inequality.
Timestamps: 00:18–17:12
"Trump decided that it's time to fire the Federal Reserve Governor... Although the legality of this is very dubious."
— Emma Vigland [05:20]
"Why is the black lady running the bank?"
— Matt [06:04]
Timestamps: 23:21–41:36
"We are watching, and we are taking names... If you hurt my people, nothing will stop me—not time or political circumstance—from making sure that you face justice under our constitutional rule of law."
— J.B. Pritzker [41:22]
"If Donald Trump was actually serious about fighting crime in cities like Chicago, he... would not be cutting over $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants..."
— J.B. Pritzker [30:58]
"This is not a time to pretend here that there are two sides to this story."
— J.B. Pritzker [36:18]
"Donald Trump wants to use the military to occupy a US city, punish his dissidents and score political points. If this were happening in any other country, we'd have no trouble calling it what it is: a dangerous power grab."
— J.B. Pritzker [37:00]
Timestamps: 15:17–17:12, 45:26–61:44
Timestamps: 48:22–56:00
"You want to straighten out the budget? Start taxing corporations and the wealthy, like we've been telling you... Do you think we're idiots?"
— Fred Higginbotham [54:19]
"You need to take your head out of Trump's ass and start doing your representation of us."
— Fred Higginbotham [54:23]
Timestamps: 56:00–64:38
Timestamps: 57:27–64:38
Emma Vigland ridicules Trump’s mechanical, uninformed approach to executive orders:
"Trump may not have an auto pen... but he's basically auto Sharpie because there's nothing going on up there. And he puts no thought into anything."
— Emma Vigland [27:12]
"We are watching and we are taking names... You can delay justice for a time, but history shows you cannot prevent it from finding you eventually. If you hurt my people, nothing will stop me... from making sure that you face justice under our constitutional rule of law."
"Do you think we're idiots? Do you think we don't pay taxes? Do you think we don't have to make budgets?... You need to take your head out of Trump’s ass and start doing your representation of us."
The conversation is irreverent, combative, and deeply analytical, mixing humor ("auto Sharpie") with plainspoken outrage and insistence on structural critique.
For listeners: This episode is a must if you’re following threats to democratic governance, the future of economic policy under Trump, or the evolving backlash from both blue state leadership and disaffected rural Americans.