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Sam Cedar
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Chris James
Being casual?
Brian Quimby
What's that?
Chris James
Her immune systems being casual?
Sam Cedar
Yeah, exactly. Folks, it is a bad time to get a cold right now. You don't want to, I, Brian and I were talking about this before the show. I, I wear a mask on the, on the subway. I mean, I do that just as a Covid protection, but also frankly, the flu this year is nasty as hell and I am like been vigilant about washing my hands and I'm actually excited. Like you have to wear gloves more often than not when you get to the subway because it's so freezing and the gloves just want more protection. So there you go.
Brian Quimby
I'm walking around with one of those Pope bless you spoons filled with hand sanitizer. Not just flicking hand sanitizer at everybody.
Sam Cedar
Has nothing to do with germs or cold though. That's the difficult part.
Brian Quimby
Just the word of God.
Sam Cedar
A lot to get to today. You'll recall, was it a week and a half ago or two weeks ago, there was a protest by some Minnesota activists of a church where the pastor turns out to have been an ICE regional director or field office director. And there was a protest there. People were removed. One woman was arrested and sort of famously the Trump administration changed an image of her as she was walking out. I've actually subsequently seen the video of the way when she was arrested. She was incredibly calm and was having conversations. She at one point sort of joked with the ICE guy who also seemed to feel bad about arresting her because he knew this was bs Incidentally. I don't even know why ICE would even be involved in making these arrests, but she. They changed her picture to make it look like she was crying. She wasn't. It's that incident. Don Lemon. Yeah, that's the picture. And Don Lemon and another reporter, I should say, journalist Georgia Fort, were covering this with. I don't know if they got it. They probably got a tip. I mean, this happens all the time. If you're going to protest, you call media and get the media to follow it. I mean, that is the most basic premise of protesting, frankly. And they recorded it, videotaped it, you know, like we would if we were, you know, like anybody would, really. And there was an attempt to get both these people arrested by local judges in Minnesota. They. The DOJ couldn't get magistrates to sign off an arrest warrant. And so it. I don't know. Have they taken it? I don't know what the process was that they were able to arrest these two, but they have. Here is Georgia Fort announcing that she. There's agents at her door. Do you want to wear my glasses, you guys?
Georgia Fort
I wanted to alert the public that agents are at my door right now. They're saying that they were able to go before a grand jury sometime, I guess, in the last 24 hours and that they have a warrant for my arrest. I've talked to my attorney, and I'm being advised to go with them, I guess, down to Whipple. And my children are here. They're impacted by this. This is all stemming from the fact that I filmed a protest as a member of the media. We are supposed to have our constitutional right of the freedom to film, to be a member of the press. I don't feel like I have my First Amendment right as a member of the press, because now federal agents are at my door arresting me for filming the church protest a few weeks ago. Again, I don't have a long time here, you guys, but I wanted you to know for me, agents are at my door right now. My attorney has spoken with them. I did send a relative outside to talk to them. They're showing some type of documentation, apparently that they got an indictment from a grand jury. I knew that I was on a defendant's list. I did not publish it because it was under seal. And so we've done everything that we can to try and abide by, you know, the advice of our. Our attorneys. But right now, you guys, I wanted you to know I'm gonna have to hop off here and surrender to agents as a member of the press. I filmed the church protest a few weeks.
Sam Cedar
That was basically it. And I don't know why. Do we not have the longer one?
Chris James
Or. Oh, we can keep playing. There's only the.
Sam Cedar
I mean, that's basically the gist of the story. And the agent, literally, you can hear towards the end of the video, the agent knocking again, let us in. And so she had to sign off. This is a statement from Don Lemon. His attorney, Abby Lowell. She is a pretty high profile attorney. I can't remember exactly all the people that she's represented, but I think she was involved in the MeToo stuff, I think, and I'm not sure. Don Lemon was taken into custody by federal agents last night in Los Angeles, where he was covering the Grammy Awards. Don's been a journalist for 30 years. His constitutionally protected work in Minneapolis was no different than what he has always done. The First Amendment exists to protect journalists whose role it is to shine light on the truth and hold those in power accountable. There's no more important time for people like Don to be doing this work. Instead of investigating the federal agents who killed two peaceful Minnesota protesters, the Trump Justice Department is devoting its time, attention and resources to this arrest. And that is the real indictment of the wrongdoing in this case. This unprecedented attack on the First Amendment and transparent attempt to distract attention from the many crises facing the administration will not stand. Don will fight these charges vigorously and thoroughly in court. The. I, we obviously don't know what the deliberations of the grand jury were or what the charges. I really don't know, quite frankly, at this point, exactly what the charges are, but it is hard not to imagine that this isn't a function of, of that NSPM 7, which explicitly said, you are running afoul of President's Law. I mean, there's no, I don't know what the statutory basis of this, but essentially you are a domestic terrorist if you are engaged in anything that is an affront to a church. And I suspect this is a way for them to, to begin to work these laws into practice. Of course, it also is an attempt to chill the press, to intimidate activists, etc. Etc. But understand, this is the way these things develop. You know, I've said before, you know, no two fascist movements look identical. And certainly, you know, there are innovations and changes wherever it crops up. But when Anne Frank was hidden, people were breaking the law in hiding her. When Anne Frank was hiding and her family was not presenting themselves to German authorities, they were breaking the law. This is establishing these laws. And of course, now we're watching sort of like the Congress is refusing to exercise any statutory authority and these Republicans are in league with Trump. Now, fortunately, we have a Democratic Party that is saying no way are we going to participate in a government like that. Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's the opposite. I got confused. We're going to definitely participate in a government like this, but we will only fund DHS for two more weeks. Well, not, I don't mean to say that we'll only fund DHS for two more weeks. What I mean to say is that we're going to put it, we're going to fund it for two more weeks and then we will have, we will fund it again because it's so vital. And this is where we're at now. And we will talk to Heather Parton in a moment about, about this funding and whatnot. But this is just the beginning. Should be noted that of course, every I, I believe if they arrested two activists and two journalists, I think it's four for four are black people. Just because it makes it a little bit, you know, it greases the wheels for them in their mind, at least with their supporters.
Chris James
Yeah, I will also there's 16 people arrested in Minneapolis. There's a news story here from Fox 9 News. Sixteen arrests for attacks and it has a profile of large number them, a lot of things like blowing whistles and was part of a group of eight to 10 vehicles parked around ICE vehicles, quote, making it difficult for them to leave. So our doj, Pam Bondi, the law.
Sam Cedar
Against making it difficult for them to leave.
Chris James
Yeah, man, I've been a victim of that so many times.
Sam Cedar
Pam Bondi announced the names of all the people I think it was on Twitter or something of all the names of those people who were arrested. And I think they also released photos. All the ICE people who have in the photos have their backs turned to us. We see the faces of the patriots who did this stuff. Did I say MSPM NSPM 7?
Chris James
You said it right. I think.
Sam Cedar
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Chris James
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Sam Cedar
I was gonna say that is. The song sounds a little bit weird.
Emma Vigland
The remix.
Heather Digby Parton
I liked it.
Sam Cedar
Heather Parton Digby, thanks so much for joining us. Sorry about that.
Heather Digby Parton
I sound a little weird, too, because it's just been that kind of week.
Sam Cedar
Yeah. We were just saying, like, I. It's only been a month, really, since you were on the program, I guess, you know, maybe before break. So, you know, technically six weeks. But this, this feels like, you know, when you and I have been having these conversations, you know, for over 20 years now. I think on some level or another, this feels like the worst month, just the most relentless. I don't know. Like, you know, we had never talked when the Iraq war started, but this, but this seems like one of the worst months for just the. That I can remember in ever, maybe.
Heather Digby Parton
Me, too. And it's not relentless is the right word because it's not just, you know, it's one thing when you have one big story that sort of is dominating and you're just, you know, you can't take your eyes off it and it's fast moving and there's a lot of stuff happening. This is, we've had half a dozen of those kind of stories within the month. I mean, we started off with an invasion of a foreign country and, you know, we've got the president trying to, you know, alienating the entire world, trying to buy or, you know, invade another country. Greenland just completely blowing up the world order, obviously, everything that's been going on with ice. There's the stuff with the Epstein file. I mean, it's just been overwhelming this month. Like I keep saying, it's been the longest year of my life and it's only been a month long. It's incredible. And I, you know, people say that this. Well, you know, this is them. Well, what do they call it? The, you know, the shock and awe or, you know, just trying to, you know, throw everything at the wall to try and keep everybody off balance. And all of that is true. But this stuff is all real, too. It's not like they're making stuff up. This is actually happening.
Sam Cedar
Right.
Heather Digby Parton
And we are, you know, we're forced. Whether we. It'd be one thing if we could just say, oh, forget about that. That's just a distraction. It doesn't mean anything. But all these things mean something. It's something really important. They're, they're, they're absolutely vital, huge stories in and of themselves, every single one of them. And we're just kind of, you know, Bouncing like pinballs from one to the other. And it's just, you know, it's exhausting. And I think part of it does serve to get the, you know, the public kind of just overwhelmed and kind of, you know, desensitized, which is, which really does work. However, having said that, I think something broke through in a way that I haven't seen in a long, long time, which was the murders in Minneapolis. And I think that that has made a difference. Even with all of this relentless news that's just, you know, battering us, I think people were unable to look away. And so something did change there with that one. But man, I'm telling you, this 30 days has been unbelievable in the.
Sam Cedar
I mean, there's, there's sort of like. I think part of it is actually, I think it's like a two part strategy, or I should say the strategy works on two levels. Bannon talked about in the first term about flooding the zone. Who's just going to do so much that they can't keep up? I mean, he, he really has a savvy about the media now. The media landscapes change, but people forget. I mean, you know, this is not terribly relevant today, except for this. Just speak about like, you know, sort of Bannon's understanding of the media ecosystem. He's the one who was able to. I mean, this is just crazy now to think about Bannon having this type of access. But he's the one with the new. Partnered with the New York Times with that Cash for Clinton's book or whatever it was, Clinton Cash and had the New York Times run excerpts of this book, which ultimately a lot of the stuff in there was just found to be complete bunk. This is no way to defend Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton. I don't need to litigate that now. But he knew that the Times would bite and really eat this stuff up. And he's also the guy who nurtured Gamergate, which ended up like, sort of like in many ways building that online sort of alt. Right?
Heather Digby Parton
He didn't know that?
Sam Cedar
Oh, yes. Oh, yes. When he was in charge of Breitbart, he had Milo Yannianopoulos cover it and nurture the whole thing. It all came out of Breitbart.
Heather Digby Parton
I didn't realize that at the time. I mean, that was a huge story. But I only followed it peripherally because it was about gaming. And I'm not, you know, particularly into that, so I didn't really follow it. Only in retrospect have I learned just how influential that was in creating the social media ecosystem that we now live in, I mean, now pretty much rules our world. So interesting because Bannon, I mean, Bannon is a very interesting character. He's, you know, a psychopath, but he's also quite smart and he has. I was one of the few people in that Trump world, in the inner, inner sort of outer circle of Trump world who has a real ideology and a real long term agenda that is based upon. I mean, he's an autodidact and he's very philosophically sort of all over the place, but he has formed for himself a true ideology and has been following it this whole time. I mean, you can say a lot about these people. You know, most of them are silly kind of gadflies and just, you know, cultists. But he is not one. He has his own mission. And it's very, I mean, it's horrible. It's dark, dark, you know, authoritarian mission. But that's, he's, he's that guy. So it's very interesting to me that he has maintained this influence wherever he is, whether it was Breitbart within the White House in the campaign. I mean, he ran Trump's campaign for a while in 2016 and then now, you know, people sort of dismiss these right wing influencers, you know, they shouldn't. And he's kind of the king of the influencers. I mean, he's the guy who, I.
Sam Cedar
Suspect he and Miller are still sort of like working together because much of what we're seeing certainly in the course of this month and I, you know, between Miller and Bannon, I would say the vast majority of what we've seen this month, I mean, Bannon seems to have more of the international sort of like notion, but this is a, you know, fascistic, imperialistic, but narrowly tailored, just a slightly different perspective on imperialism. Let's just go, you know, let's vertical, let's go vertically instead of horizontally, essentially is the imperialism here and you know, so the flood, the zone is a thing. And I think also just sort of like you've got like the Russell votes and the Steve Millers who are just know that we only have a certain amount of time to do this and if we don't get it done by, you know, I would imagine midterms for them, they need to get this done because part of that project, and I think we may have seen it with Tulsi Gabbard yesterday in Georgia. And we're, we're seeing it, I think in terms of like trying to build the momentum for the insurrection act and the idea of, like, let's get people used to federal troops on the ground in places where there's voting. And we'll have Pam Bondi sort of trade. We're going to trade, you know, give us the documents we want the voting rolls. I think they, their timeline is we need to get this done, all this stuff, before we can sort of like run with a little bit more freedom, you know, in the next nine, 10 months. And they're operating like it.
Heather Digby Parton
Absolutely. You're so right. I mean, this is just. They know they're under, you know, a time limit to have to be able to just do as much as they possibly can. I mean, what if the midterms don't go their way and it all things, if it's fair and, you know, free. And we have some reason to believe that perhaps there is something in the works to prevent that, seeing what happened this week in Fulton County, Georgia. But, you know, assuming that perhaps they lose at least one House and potentially with the way it's looking, you know, both houses of Congress, they are going to have some limit on their ability to function. Now, I will just put throw this out here for people because I never hear anybody talk about this. But it's really important if they win, if they hold onto the Senate for the last two years of Trump's term, I think Scalia and Alito are going to retire 100%. And I think that it's, you know, it's.
Sam Cedar
They might do it in the next 10 months.
Heather Digby Parton
They might do it. It's possible. If they really see the handwriting on the wall, I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen, too. You know, they may have a little bit more of a difficult time. It's possible they've got some people in there like Tillis and Murkowski and some others who maybe might balk a little bit at pushing through another Trump. Trump nominee. Boy, that's really thin reed to hang our, you know, our hopes on, because who knows what they'll do. But the fact is, is that that's a very real possibility that Trump will have packed the court with five of his nominees by the time they're done. So, I mean, they have got. There's a lot at stake here for everybody in the midterms and, you know, their own agenda and everything else. And yes, they're moving as quickly as they can to get all this stuff done. And it's also that they all have their own agendas. I mean, I honestly think that Donald Trump is, I mean, we know what he cares about. He's building his legacy right now. And he thinks building his legacy means building, you know, tributes to himself and statues and arcs and ballrooms and all that stuff and naming airports and doing all that sort of thing. I mean, that's just who he is and he's doing that. And it's also that he wants this legacy perhaps of expand, you know, being an expansionist president who, you know, took some piece of land that he wasn't entitled to. So he wants to do that as well called Greenland Trumpland or something. And he wants to win the Nobel Peace Prize. And you know, however, he doesn't have a clue on what would be required and that won't, probably won't happen, although I wouldn't be surprised about that either. But the rest of these people, Miller, both, you know, this whole, there's whole groups of them. Rubio, they have their own agenda that they've had for years. That has nothing to do with Trump. It's just that they've got this guy there who is willing to do whatever. He has no longer has any restraint. He doesn't care. He's willing, you know, he thinks they can convince him to do anything. I would put, build his legacy.
Sam Cedar
I would put Kennedy in that same.
Heather Digby Parton
Absolutely.
Sam Cedar
People who are willing to, in his, you know, I think sheer lunacy. But he's willing. He, you know, I saw, I just was reading about the Melania screening that they wouldn't allow the press into at the, the place formerly named after Kennedy but now after Trump center. And somebody asked Kennedy about it. He's like, well, you know, the Kennedy senator care. Kennedy cared about the arts and so doesn't Donald Trump. And like the, the abject humiliation that he has is willing to, to suck up two for the purpose of pursuing what I think is sheer insanity. They all have that like, you know, Rubio has this now he's able to starve Cuba, which is in his long term agenda. And all of them. And they're willing to do. And I think also there's some of them like Kristi Noem who just has sheer ambition. And on some levels, like those are the ones who may stumble more is the ones who are just like, who don't even have a guiding principle as much as, as horrible as it is to their sick, sick infantry. Is that, what did you call that sycophant? Thank you. Yeah, this is, I mean this is what we're, this is what we're dealing with. And you know, you, you made the point. You had three Pieces out this week that I've read about how the protests are sort of, like, expanding and how people are becoming aware of it. And one that actually sort of like, I think is, you know, of the same piece about the Democrats, but sort of not getting that in many respects. Let's, though, start with Jack Smith, because this is a story that was completely undercovered. We barely touched it. I know, like, I know that for a couple days we pulled food footage, but there's just so much other things. But this Jack stuff, Smith stuff was hugely important and particularly in light of what's going on in Georgia yesterday.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah, exactly. I mean, well, this is the thing, you know, I mean, Donald Trump has made the 2020 election. I mean, he can't let it go. Any normal person would have, once he got reelected in 2024, would have said, hey, I got the last laugh, you guys, you know, yeah, okay, whatever happened in 2020. But I' so, you know, whatever, and let that thing go. But he can't, because he has is, you know, a psychologically twisted malignant narcissist who can't do that. So he is pursuing it. He talks about it constantly. He's kept it at the very top of the talking points among the MAGA people. They're still obsessed with it. And he is more obsessed with it than anybody else. And so, you know, this topic which we saw that just this week, they sent in the FBI down there to. To Georgia and to grab the 2020 ballots, and they did. And this has been on their agenda for a long time. They've been wanting to, you know, get a hold of the ballot. And, you know, so we're still in 2020. Nobody normal would want that. If he's. He's in his second term, building his legacy, why is he doing that? He just. He is the sorest loser in world history. And I say that that is not hyperbolic. It's absolutely true. He is the sorest loser in world history because look at the power that he wields. And he's still, you know, doing this. So, you know, along comes Jack Smith. And, you know, I had read the transcript of him.
Sam Cedar
We should just say he was a special counsel. I mean, people may not remember.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Right, right.
Heather Digby Parton
He was the special. Special counsel that investigated Trump the January 6th and investigated the Mar A Lago, you know, the espionage, the classified documents that he kept in Mar A Lago. And so he was in charge of those two cases, and he filed indictments in both of those cases and said that he had, you know, he had proof beyond reasonable doubt, they believed, to convict him on those two cases. What was interesting about it was, is that with all this hoopla about, you know, the ballots and whatever, Trump's always blowing smoke about this stuff. In comes Jack Smith, and we had seen a January 6th committee, which I thought was one of the most effective committee presentations I've ever seen. And I watched the Watergate ones back when I was a kid. I mean, it was really well done and I think was convincing to the vast majority of Americans. Everybody but Republicans, you know, went, okay, case closed, got it. But Jack Smith comes in and here he comes in with the mane of a, of a, you know, very, very straight arrow, just the facts, man, prosecutor. And he, he had told them in private session what he knew, I mean, to the extent he could. He's not allowed to talk about the Mar? A Lago case because apparently it's under seal. And who knows whether or not any. The report that he wrote about it is under seal. And we don't know whether or not anybody's ever going to see it. But the January 6 report was out and he can talk about that, and he did. And it was absolutely riveting testimony. I don't know, some of the networks covered it as he was speaking. I mean, he was everything that we had hoped that Robert Mueller would be and wasn't in the Russia investigation. And he just laid it out, and the Republicans were unable to lay a hand on him. He was absolutely confident and sure of his facts and laid this out, and it was stunning to hear it once again. What happened that this, the President of the United States, the current President of the United States, absolutely without a doubt tried to overthrow an election and incited an insurrection. And he had the facts at hand and he basically laid it out. And, you know, I guess nobody cares on that part of the story, but it sure seems like they should, considering the fact that Trump brings it up every five minutes. You know, it would have been nice if we could have had, you know, if we'd have been able to find the bandwidth, I guess. Here we are back on the flood the zone situation. If we had the bandwidth to look at that.
Sam Cedar
You know, it's interesting too, that, I mean, that they, they didn't do this raid in Georgia until a couple days after his testimony.
Heather Digby Parton
Oh, that's a good point.
Sam Cedar
I mean, had the sequencing been reversed.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
More people might have listened to the Jack Smith and I, I certainly, I think I would have, you know, because my feeling is like I'm not obsessed about the 2020 election, it's in the.
Heather Digby Parton
Past, all this stuff. Right.
Sam Cedar
But, but, and so, you know, Jack Smith and of course, all the other news is low on the totem pole of stuff that we need to get to. And it may, we may go back and revisit it because it's quite clear that they're going to go through this stuff and they're going to use it for something.
Chris James
Right?
Sam Cedar
I mean, they're going to use it for some thing and said that they're.
Heather Digby Parton
Going to bring him back. I mean, I think there's, it's, there's absolutely no doubt that if they win the House in November, that they're going to pursue this because they have to. Look, I mean, we all would like to leave 2020 behind for a million reasons, not just this, but it's, it's something that people would like to, but we can't because the Republicans have created a false, you know, competing narrative of the truth that will never go away because Trump just is out there. And I think that they want to cling on to it. So it's very important that the record be cleared. And on the Mar A Lago case, if they, if that is comes out from, and apparently it's Pam Bondi who said, you know, we really need to keep this under wraps. And so they've got Aileen Cannon down there, the federal judge who is the one who's kept the seal on it. I don't know if they're ever going to be able to get that unsealed. The conventional wisdom was until recently that of course they're going to unseal it. You have to, you know, there's no reason that she can't find a reason to do it. But come on, they can find a reason to do anything if they want to. So I don't know if we'll ever, that'll ever see the light of day unless somebody leaks it, because Smith wrote a report that exists in this world that, you know, nobody's ever seen. So, you know, somewhere, you know, perhaps someone will see it. But in any case, the Democrats are going to pursue this because they have, I think that they have to. I mean, it's like you had, have all these people going, well, no, impeachment, no, we can't do this. You know, we've got to, if we win, we can't be doing that kind of stuff. And I'm going, are you out of your mind? Of course we have to do all those things. Of course, you know, you can't just Let this go. Look what they've done.
Sam Cedar
I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
Heather Digby Parton
I mean, either. But I'm saying it's just insane that we're not there. I mean, of course, you know, I recognize what we're dealing with here. And again, you know, there is a bandwidth problem. But, you know, the minute that people start talking about, you know, not looking in the rearview mirror, I think the base of the Democratic Party is going to absolutely explode. Because this is what got us here today.
Sam Cedar
What's amazing is, I mean, since. Let's talk about that. Because the, I want to say tone deafness of Schumer and Jeffries, but it's not even tone deafness. We are now at like sort of like the deafness is measured in like double digit decibels. You know what I mean? Like this, you know, this is not like there's some fine tuning that they're not quite in sync with what's going on on the ground.
Heather Digby Parton
Earthquake, you can feel it. Everything's shaking. And the fact that they don't, that they have to, you know, police. Their tone is insane.
Sam Cedar
It's, it's crazy. And the, you know, like I just saw a, you know, the, you wrote a piece, I guess it was last week, saying that it's more than just the economy. Stupid. There's two things that strike me about this. You're talking about how like Democrats are, you know, looking to win. They're gonna just ignore everything else is going on. Let's remember that prior to this shooting, the second shooting, you had seven Democrats with Jeffrey's blessing who voted to fund dhs. Chuck Schumer was not. There was no hesitation about passing the bill. They were like both ice. What ICE had done in shooting. Nicole good, you know, in Renee good in the first, in the first instance and all the other stuff, frankly, did not rise. But they, they had no concept of like, oh, wait a second, where are we going to be in 11 months or two months or two weeks? It ended up being two days, but they completely missed that. But it's also. And so I want to talk about that, but I also want to talk about like it's the economy, stupid. What are they suggesting? Like what? Like, it doesn't even seem to be that they're running on like economic proposals. They're just running on thinking like people are upset about the economy. It's like it's not enough to say the eggs are expensive still, if you're going to do that, like, I do think the economy is going to play a big, big role in the midterm election. But Democrats are not enhancing it in any way because they're not offering any. Any proposals, like telling people that the economy is bad is superfluous. They already know.
Heather Digby Parton
And.
Sam Cedar
And there's all this other stuff going on. There was a poll out in Michigan in the Democratic primary that had, you know, for all intents and purposes, I think McMurray was out by five or six points and then said and Stevens are more or less tied. And the. The big difference, you know, there's like 36% undecided. So, you know, which is double digits larger than any single candidate has. So that race is still in flux. But the democracy issues and the, like, ICE issues, they're playing a big, big part in that primary. And, you know, we're talking midterms. We're not talking general election. Voter motivation and intensity counts for more in the midterms than it does in a general election. That's just like. That's just sort of basic.
Heather Digby Parton
It's everything. And the polling, too. I mean, this is something that drives me crazy, is that, you know, when people poll on, you know, when they go out and poll people about, you know, what's. What's what, you know, what are your issues, what's going on? And they say, oh, it's terrible. The economy's awful. It's just awful. And, you know, inflation and jobs and whatever, whatever the story is. And a lot of that is the way people talk about just the general feeling of what's going on in the country. It's not a directly literal interpretation of, oh, the inflation rate is at 2%. And I really think that, you know, it should be at 1.4%. I mean, that's absurd. People don't think that way. What they feel is stress. When you hear affordability. Right. A lot of that is stress. It's economic stress. Absolutely. People are feeling that. There's no doubt about it. Housing prices are insane. You know, renters and buyers alike, you know, mortgage rates, all of this stuff. You know, grocery prices, all of that. But it isn't just that. It's the sense of stress in our society, that things are coming apart, that there is chaos everywhere, that Donald Trump has come in, he's completely destroying us around the world, that domestically we have a secret police force that's running around in our cities and brutalizing people on the streets. And you can see the video of it every single day now that people may say, yeah, well, the most important thing to me is egg prices. But that's important to them. You know, what's happening in the streets of America is important to them, too. They're expressing their stress about what is going on in this country. And I just, I simply cannot stand the idea that we're going to sit there with some, you know, kind of. Well, we understand that the price is really too high for the eggs and we're going to do something about it, which of course, they can't. They don't have the ability as a House member or as even having the majority in the House to do anything about egg prices. This is going to require a very heavy lift of a change of economic policy that they need to talk about in a lot, you know, sort of broader terms like the fact that we've got this, you know, K shaped, you know, economy where Everybody making over $150,000 a year is doing a hell of a lot better than the bottom, you know, two thirds of the country that isn't. And, you know, there are big ways to talk about the economy that makes sense that we need to talk about. But, you know, sitting around talking about how well, you know, we got to get those egg prices down just isn't going to get it done. And by the way, it will lead to disappointment in 2028 because if the Democrats do win and, you know, none of this, none of that stuff is going to be fixed, they're going to have to run in 2028 and say, yeah, well, we really, we, you know, we wanted to do something, but we couldn't.
Sam Cedar
Because that's a great point.
Heather Digby Parton
Don't raise expectations on some specifics like that. You have to talk about it in bigger terms. And I honestly believe that voters will respond to that. They're trying. They want somebody to kind of get it. Like, things are hurtling out of control in this country and we're freaking out. Okay. I mean, you've got people. I mean, Minneapolis to me is just such an incredible inspiration. I never expected to see this. I mean, this is like zero degree weather. You've got, you know, moms of preschoolers and, you know, grandparents, you know, out in the streets actually protecting their neighbors and saying, look, I don't know these people down the street, but I don't want some thugs walking in and grabbing them, throwing in the back of a car and driving away. I'm not going to let that happen because I'm, I'm an American and I believe in certain things. And, you know, you see this all over the place in cities. We see it here in la. There are people who are coming out to actually do something practical. And, you know, what does that say to you? They don't, you know, they're not going to trust the cops to come along and help. They can't call somebody. They have to do it themselves. And this just says to me that, you know, people get it. They're getting the fact that there is a massive crisis in this country. And here you see Schumer and, you know, Jeffries coming out and just. And I don't want to blame all the Democrats because some of them have really been great. I mean, they've come out and there are plenty of them who were. And you can sense their frustration with the leadership as well, because you hear them and they're just kind of gritting their teeth and rolling their eyes and going, you know, come on here. But those two leaders and, you know, some of the others that are just unwilling to sort of grasp the moment, and the voters are begging for the Democrats to grasp the moment. That's the reason why all the polling shows Democrats are less popular than Republicans right now as a party, as a brand. And it's because Democrats, their own party, is saying, yeah, we, you know, we have no faith in these people. It's so frustrating because this is a moment, man. If you want to reach out and become, you know, really prove yourself as somebody who is worth voting for, now is the time. It's here, here.
Sam Cedar
The, the. There, there. There are two things. One being that that notion of just like egg prices are down and creating an expectation that, you know, and egg prices obviously is just a, an avatar for, for. For that sort of large. But the, the. The absence of a plan that is like, in some way signifying change and difference, right? Like, obviously, Mamdani's running in New York City. You can't take his plans necessarily, although I think you probably could. But I mean, just for the sake of argument, it's a, it's a blue city whatnot. But he's running a race that has a similar dynamic, right? I mean, you know, Cuomo represented one sort of style of politicking and Mamdani another. And I think there is an analog here. And so you don't necessarily have to come in and say free childcare, although I think you should, but you need to have a plan that is distinct and unique and different. And if you're going to run on the economy otherwise, just saying, you know, egg prices, blah, blah, blah. And that way you can also say, like, step one, we take the House. Step two, we take the Senate step three, we take the presidency and step four is universal health care, you know, single payer health care or whatever, Whatever.
Heather Digby Parton
It is, all the shies. I mean, expand the Supreme Court, I don't care what it is. I mean whatever it is, there should be.
Sam Cedar
There's so much. And on top of which like I, I just find it shocking the, the, you know, the way that like Schumer and Jeffries are. The, the just the entire theory about like if we don't exist, we have a better chance of winning. And, and I just find that so incompetent and misguided and you know, we're already seeing like it's quite possible, it's quite possible the Democrats take the Senate in the fall. I mean a lot of things have to happen. But we should also note that like if they do, it's probably going to be with Chuck Schumer's hand picked candidates only winning half of those primaries. You know, like, like, you know, just sort of like this. No doubt the low hanging fruit. And they will give him credit for it. And it doesn't seem like anybody in the Senate is stepping up, but he's putting out stuff like. Brian, do we have that on that sound sheet, the. No more effing. No, but I can get it for you. Yeah, just pull this. Brian just, I guess sent this to me just to see if I would have a heart attack. But the Chuck Schumer's out there and they, it is just absolutely like the level of incompetence and the complete. Like you, you can see in this statement that Chuck Schumer put out. You can almost see the money entering into the bank account of a consultant. Like as the words come out of his mouth, it is like literally like a Venmo into a consultant's account. Do we have it?
Chris James
Yeah, it's on his Instagram. So just give me a second here to have this playable. Put this up, Brad.
Sam Cedar
You know, like it is, there is. It's unclear who they think this is moving. I just don't understand.
Heather Digby Parton
It's a temperamental thing. It's like these are people who are absolutely terrified, I think of taking a risk and you know, getting out there and being blamed by somebody. I don't know who they're afraid of these days. I mean, David Brooks.
Sam Cedar
I mean this is a, this is. And we should be clear, I think like the, the, there is an incompetence and that is bred by this, this temperament. But that temperament also exists, I think in the context like of A corporate mentality, you know, like, this is like, cover your ass and just don't stick your neck out. And that's the way you. You move up in the. Yes. All right, here he is. This is him responding. This is. And I should say, folks, not safe for work. Not safe for workman. Stephen Miller are fucking liars. Any administration that allows them to continue in office is rotten to its core. The vote on appropriations is coming up Thursday night, and Democrats will not let the Republicans move forward if ICE and DHS funding are in the bill. Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller are fucking liars.
Brian Quimby
First of all, if Chuck Schumer was on cameo, this is exactly what I would pay him to do just to destroy.
Heather Digby Parton
Sam.
Sam Cedar
I can't find my glasses.
Chris James
But.
Sam Cedar
But the what? First off, we should say that. When would that come out? When was that posted?
Chris James
When?
Brian Quimby
The day I sent it to you. It's like three, four days ago.
Sam Cedar
Okay. In that time, he already backed off that threat.
Heather Digby Parton
Hilarious.
Sam Cedar
Now I want you to know I still consider them effing liars. And I'll. Don't make me drop the F bomb again.
Chris James
Now funded liars.
Sam Cedar
They're now funded liars. They are funded liars. Where's my glasses? Oh, my God. They're funded liars.
Heather Digby Parton
Oh, my God.
Sam Cedar
Oh, I know we. I know that we funded them, but did you see what I called them? I swore. Swore. Where did I do it? On the social media. And therefore I get all the points. I get all. Guess who won the Internet today, honey? But it's insane. It's insane. Like, he put that out three days ago, and he's. Now he's making a funding deal. And the only thing that's holding it up. The only thing that's holding it up is Lindsey Graham is mad about the House bill that stripped the $500,000 payments to senators who were involved in January 6 and their phone records got caught up in the investigation. And I suspect he's one of those people, and he's like. I mean, you know, like, we're gonna hold this thing up until he gets his 500 grand. I mean, this is.
Heather Digby Parton
Go ahead. Put. Give it. Put some money in a cava paper bag and give it to him, because this is ridiculous, the idea that he would do this. I mean, didn't all the Republicans vote against this in the House? I mean, it seems to me, yes.
Sam Cedar
They stripped it from the bill in the House, and he wants it back in.
Heather Digby Parton
I can't believe it. Somebody said last night on Blue Sky, I think that he, you know, he must have been drunk when he went. I mean, apparently he stormed into Thin's office and said, absolutely no, I'm not going to let this happen. And I couldn't at the time. I didn't realize it was over this.
Sam Cedar
I got news for you, I mean, if I was to lose 500 grand, I would probably be dancing around yelling at people, shit faced.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah, I mean, you know, and by the way, the 500 grand, in case everybody doesn't know, know this is at the discretion of Donald Trump's justice Department. Pam Bondi and you know, Todd Blanche will be the people deciding whether or not they should get the 500 grand because it would be considered a settlement, you see, and they could decide to settle the lawsuit. Trump could do the same thing for himself. You know, he just sued the IRS.
Sam Cedar
IRS in Treasury for $10 billion. I'll tell you what, guys, listen, I'm gonna huddle with your boss and see if we can knock out a settlement here and sit down. I'll tell you what we're gonna do. I'm gonna be good because I like your boss. And then we're gonna do, we'll do $0.10 on the $1billion for the plaintiff and we'll call it a day. I mean, he's literally going to take money out of the treasury and just put it in his pocket. No scheme, no, like, you know, like we don't have to do accounting stuff. We don't need to bring in the accountants. This means this is completely uncommissioned transfer of wealth.
Heather Digby Parton
It's unbelievable.
Sam Cedar
And also you got to pay my lawyer fees because that's needless.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah, needless to say. I mean, I mean he's doing all this stuff out in the open. I mean, yeah, we could do hours on the corruption. I mean, literally hours. I researched a piece, I ended up not writing it, but I spent, I spent hours looking at this. It is beyond belief how much. And this is not just the crypto stuff. This is contracts that are going to his buddy from, from Switzerland, I can't remember what company he, he was representing, came in and literally handed him a gold bar. And two days later they gave his con, his company a contract, you know.
Sam Cedar
Well, and then in the interim, I'm sure he does one more thing to devalue the dollar. So I just wanted.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah, that makes it a little bit.
Sam Cedar
I guess, what the guys, I doubled the value of this gold bar you gave me.
Heather Digby Parton
Exactly, exactly. You know, so I mean, I guess it makes sense, doesn't it? That he's got gold all over the place, although half of it's just guilt, you know, Home Depot bullshit. But, you know, this is. I mean, it is. The amount of corruption is beyond belief. And he's told the New York Times. I don't know if everybody's read the New York Times interview with him that they did a couple weeks ago. Really worth looking at. The whole thing. Read the whole thing. It's very long and really voluminous. You have to read it, because it is the best insight I've seen in a long time into Donald Trump's current thinking and the way that he actually is approaching it. He just basically is just saying, you know, you only live once I'm doing it. And he said, you know, they asked him about the corruption, about the kids doing the. The work, you know, that, you know, making deals overseas for the Trump Organization, all that. And he said, yeah, in the first term, they told me I couldn't do it. And, you know, I realized nobody cared. So I said, fine, you do whatever you want. The kids have a right to do their thing. You know, I mean, this is the. This is the people that went after Hunter Biden.
Sam Cedar
Yep.
Heather Digby Parton
For a job he had in Ukraine, you know, what was it, eight years prior, that he briefly held a job with some gas company in Ukraine. And they tortured that guy. I mean, they basically tortured him. And, you know, he's. Now, he can't even make a living. I mean, Hunter Biden was destroyed as a human being. Not just because of that, but, you know, they piled on a guy who was already pretty fragile. And here you've got, you know, the Trump kids out there just making money hand over fist selling Trump everywhere. And he personally is making money like this. And he just basically said to the New York Times, but, yeah, I'm doing it. Yeah, nobody cares. I can do it.
Sam Cedar
And you know what?
Heather Digby Parton
He's right.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, right.
Heather Digby Parton
Nobody can do anything about it. And, you know, they filed it. They filed a suit in the first term about the emoluments clause. Right. I mean, totally legit. It was clear that he was taking bribes. Basically. He's taking bribes. I mean, that's just obvious. And so he loses the election in 2020. It was wending its way glacially through the courts, as everything does when it comes to him. And they go, well, it's moot now because he's out of office, comes back into office, you know, here we go again. It's like there's nothing. There's no accountability whatsoever for anything that he does along this line. And he knows it. He knows it. And so why shouldn't Lindsey Graham get his taste, huh? Shouldn't he wet his beak a little bit and get a little, you know, half a million dollars?
Sam Cedar
Lindsay's been a good boy.
Heather Digby Parton
He's done everything right, and he deserves it.
Sam Cedar
I'm a little worried about his drinking, but.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah, I don't know. Does he have a drinking problem? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but.
Sam Cedar
I gotta think that after a certain while, they all have some. There's, you know, I'm sure. I'm sure Lindsay has his skeletons in his closet and.
Heather Digby Parton
No, not Lindsay. He's totally above board. I mean, come on.
Sam Cedar
God knows what it takes for these people to get through a day.
Heather Digby Parton
He's a confirmed bachelor who just is dedicated to the, you know, his country and. And serving. That's all it is.
Brian Quimby
He's married to the Constitution.
Sam Cedar
He is.
Heather Digby Parton
He's married to the Constitution.
Sam Cedar
Well, Heather, you know, we finish all these conversations. We finish all these conversations in the.
Heather Digby Parton
Way every single time. And it just gets worse. I mean, we didn't even get to talk about Minneapolis, but I guess, you know, we all know what's happening there. But.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, and one big shout out to.
Heather Digby Parton
The people of Minneapolis. I just have to say, you know, you people are my inspiration and should be the inspiration to every Democratic politician in America.
Sam Cedar
100% couldn't agree more. And, you know, now they've moved on to arresting the media. And so I'm sure we'll have more to talk about going forward and.
Heather Digby Parton
Oh, no doubt.
Sam Cedar
But, Heather, as always, thanks so much for coming on.
Heather Digby Parton
My pleasure.
Sam Cedar
Folks can read you, obviously, at Salon a couple of times a week and three times a week and. And of course at Hullabaloo, your uber blog at. Is it. Is it still. Digby says dig.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah, Digby's log dot net.
Sam Cedar
Oh, yeah. I don't even have to look at. I just. I know that's all my browsers. As soon as I put Di in, it all just fills in by itself.
Heather Digby Parton
Heather Parton wanted me to change it, but I just went, nah, nah, I'm old school. Oh, gee.
Sam Cedar
Exactly. Heather Parton, thanks so much. Really appreciate it.
Heather Digby Parton
Thanks for having me. It was great. Thanks.
Sam Cedar
All right, folks, it is casual Friday, and we're trying to, you know, it can't be every day, every moment about the horrors that exist in our society. Although I have no reason to believe that we're not going to be talking about the horrors in five minutes, but we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, Brian Quimby and Chris James, host of the Guys podcast. Let's find out what the Guys are up to.
Chris James
It's my masculinity sort of training podcast.
Sam Cedar
I'm trying to butch up a little bit. So let's get these guys on. We'll be right back after this.
Heather Digby Parton
Foreign.
Sam Cedar
We are back. Sam Cedar on the Majority Report. Emma Vigland out today, so casual on Friday for her. Joining us now, very excited to have on the program Brian Quimby and Chris James, host of the Guys podcast. Hey, guys.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Hey. I'm the host.
Emma Vigland
Chris is the, I'm the co host. My name's not even on it, which you'll notice. It's called Guys with Brian Quinby. So. And it's, it reflects in the pay. It reflects in every aspect of it.
Sam Cedar
That's, I mean, that's how we do it around here. Emma's out today, but.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, yeah, but I feel like, yeah, I don't know, it seems strange. It feels like we do the same amount of work. We're on the same amount. Anyways, that's for the, that's.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We don't do the same amount of work. I'm working all the time.
Emma Vigland
He was literally just on his seventh vacation of 2026.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I don't vacation that much. He thinks I vacation. I work when I go on vacation.
Sam Cedar
What do you do when you work on vacation?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Podcasts.
Sam Cedar
I mean, he doesn't, I guess he.
Emma Vigland
Claims he gathers material, I guess, and that he like gets himself into hijinks that he can then talk about on the show.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I didn't get into hijinks this last time, except for like the weird airbnb situation with.
Sam Cedar
Did you literally just come back from vacation?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I just got back from Key West.
Emma Vigland
He was just in Florida for 10 days. And I was genuinely working during that time because I have to edit the episodes and stuff. And so I was sitting there working long hours and he's posting all these photos like in the Florida Keys.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah. I didn't like it there, though. I didn't like either place. So there is a lot of guys.
Brian Quimby
In the Florida Keys.
Sam Cedar
You're a Key west and where?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Miami. I didn't, I didn't enjoy either place.
Sam Cedar
What were you doing there?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I wanted to be warm for a week or so and I used vacation.
Sam Cedar
Okay. No, I get it. I'm really sorry you didn't enjoy yourself. I didn't enjoy myself. Zero degrees out here.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah. It's, it's 16 here. But I, like, I did enjoy myself. I was like, with my wife. I saw a bunch of alligators and stuff like that. I just thought the cities were bad. But I did.
Emma Vigland
He went in. He went when the college. The national football championship was happening in Miami. That was when he picked.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I did not know that. I landed the day two days before, and it was a nightmare.
Sam Cedar
Did you take vacation during Christmas too?
Chris James
Oh, yeah.
Emma Vigland
Well, of course he's got the Christmas vacation.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
It's kind of long.
Chris James
It.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Our Christmas vacation is kind of absurd. I will say that, like, we usually go from December 13th to, like, next week. We start back next week with the real. We get in there and get the real work done. Starting sometime next week. With Big Boobs Guys.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, we're doing an episode on Big Boobs Guys. Guys with Big Boobs.
Sam Cedar
Okay. All right. Yeah. So back to the grind.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I can't work on this. I usually work on a treadmill. I can't. I can't do this episode on the treadmill because I don't want people to walk in and think I'm just looking at big boobs. Because I'm not. I'm doing it for work.
Sam Cedar
Wait, so you do. You record your episodes while you're.
Emma Vigland
He gathers the footage when he's, like, working out in his. In his gym, right?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah, yeah. I just didn't scroll my phone while I'm walking in an absurd incline, but, like, I can't do that when I do an episode like Penis Guys or something like that because there's gonna be penises.
Sam Cedar
I think this is an appropriate time to explain to people what the premise of your show is.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
It's about guys. It's sociology. I did actually, for real. I went to school for sociology. And it just really. I'm not going to say it's smart because it's the dumbest show in the world and it's nasty, but it does.
Sam Cedar
We do.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I go around, I find posts.
Sam Cedar
Quora.
Emma Vigland
Different articles and stuff about covering. Like, each week we cover a different group of guys that has become. Made one thing their entire life, their entire personality. They base it all around one thing. And we kind of study how that makes you, you know, alienates you from the rest of the world if you. And makes you kind of a bizarre person. So, yeah, we read. We read their posts and arguments online. You know, classic rock guys, whiskey guys, guitar guys.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
And, like, they all have problems with their wives. That's like the main thing. You go, my wife is mad that.
Emma Vigland
I have bought 17 guitars this year. And we have issues paying our bill and things of that nature.
Brian Quimby
Yeah.
Heather Digby Parton
One of the.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
One of the most famous things from the show was on the Guitar Guys episode where this guy was like, how am I supposed to. My wife keeps telling me I'm buying too many guitars and, like, everybody's giving him advice. And one guy just goes, ask her how many hair straighteners she has. Like, women collect hair straighteners and like, what?
Emma Vigland
Well, they put them up on their wall behind them. Like, they don't even play them all. It's like, yeah, that's right. It's when you.
Sam Cedar
Hair straighteners.
Brian Quimby
76 Revlon.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Oh, the guitars. But the guy is. These guys are obsessed. Every time somebody. Somebody's wife is like, you're doing this too much. They always are like, ask her how many pairs of shoes she has. Like, it's just anything a. A wife might have in a 50s sitcom.
Sam Cedar
Exactly. Oh, incidentally, men also have shoes. Do that qualification for people, just so they know men.
Emma Vigland
More than. A lot more than my wife. A lot more.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Same here. I have a lot more shoes than my wife, too.
Emma Vigland
The guys who we're dealing with are not. Yeah, they're not necessarily.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We're not into shoes, though. We're not shoes guys.
Emma Vigland
Don't.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, I gotcha.
Chris James
What kind of guys are you? Are you like, I know, Brian, you're.
Sam Cedar
Kind of a Lego guy.
Chris James
Chris, have you identified with any kind of guys?
Emma Vigland
I became a bowling guy. We. We did bowling guys and we covered it and I remembered, hey, I kind of like bowling. So I bought my. I got a ball and shoes and I started going to this local bowling alley where nobody is taking it seriously. It's all like families and stuff. And I'm putting on my really shitty looking shoes and pulling up my custom ball, and then oftentimes bowling a much lower score than a family who's just in there enjoying themselves. But I got decent. I did. I got. My whole goal before the end of 2025 was to bowl a 210 pin, which is not that easy to do. And I, Yeah, I cracked it. I got a 200 on like the 29th of January. So I got. Yeah, I got decent.
Sam Cedar
That's pretty good. 200 is pretty good. I mean, 300 is like the top, which I fold.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Actually. I haven't.
Emma Vigland
Ryan's got a ring from his dad, a 300 bowling ring he stole from his dad, and he is erroneously claiming to have bowled a 300.
Brian Quimby
So it's your Nobel Peace Prize.
Sam Cedar
Erroneous is the right word, I think.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
No, it's not a lie. My dad. This is what happened. This is what happened. I bought a 300. They were out of rings, so my dad was like, here, you can have one of mine and gave it to me. So, yeah, that's how I got dragged.
Emma Vigland
I mean, Brian, Brian struggles. I've seen his bowling score. He struggles to hit triple digits. In fact, I had a terrible game when I was bowling and I was like, holy. I'm, I'm like at Brian level right now. That's what I was thinking.
Sam Cedar
What about? Let's, let's. Matt wanted me to ask about the alien guys episode. When was this Bill Maher clip from Matt?
Emma Vigland
Oh, well, this is, this is a new clip, I think, that we haven't seen.
Chris James
Yeah, I thought we'd sort of use the alien guys to explain the premise, but they sort of did that. But we have a new alien guy, which is. I know a guy that Brian and Chris are from, familiar with, which is Bill Maher. And so, yeah, we have a short clip here of him talking about aliens.
Emma Vigland
Is it on his show where he gets drunk when he's, where he's drunk, stoned. Where he gets extremely drunk and stoned and then explains how he's an alcoholic sex addict for an hour?
Sam Cedar
It looks to me like the aliens kind of want us to know that they're here. It doesn't look like they're hiding it much anymore. They may be saying, jesus Christ, these people are taking a long time to come around to what is fairly obvious, you know, and as I said to you on Real Time, this guy's got been on multiple times. Not upset about it because obviously they have the capability to do great harm.
Caller / Listener
And they're not, they seem to be just monitoring.
Sam Cedar
That could change. The reality of it is like we've evolved technologically at a really rapid pace.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Over the last 80 years, but our morals haven't.
Chris James
Right.
Sam Cedar
Right. We're still sovereign nations.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We're still threatening nuclear war.
Sam Cedar
We're a violent species. They may be in the process of deciding.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Can I say that? That thing when you get really high and you don't, you kind of don't see anything or hear anything. That's where he's at. He's so high there.
Emma Vigland
Yeah. Have you guys watched his show? It's actually, I, I, I had to. I was on the, a podcast called I Hate Bill Maher. Somebody has a whole podcast. It's Will Weldon, who's a really funny comedian. And we watched the episode of Bert Kreischer the Machine I don't know if Sam, if you know Bert Kreischer, the topless comedian.
Sam Cedar
The top comedian.
Emma Vigland
He takes his shirt off when he does his comedy. I wouldn't saw him live in Vancouver do a huge crowd and he, when he takes, he comes out to fortunate son and before he even says the word, he rips his top off and the crowd goes insane. Like they just saw like a fucking, like a last second touchdown in the Super Bowl. Like it is the biggest response I've ever seen for anything. But yeah, he, he was talking to Bill Maher and they were discussing their alcoholism and it was really remarkable how up Bill Maher it gets like really early in the episode. And yeah, I guess he's like got that confidence about him where he doesn't. Because I would feel embarrassed if I got that up and went on like a lot.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Oh no, you wouldn't.
Brian Quimby
In that, in that vein. Did you see when David Spade was on and he goes, you're one of the only guys I could talk to about dating young girls. Well, no, no, no, no, no, not anymore.
Sam Cedar
No.
Brian Quimby
I'm a lot older now.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
The Kreischer thing. Chris went to see Bert Kreischer. So I, as a, as a olive branch to him, I've decided that possibly I might go see Jim Brewer when he performs across the street for me and get VIP passes so I get picture with him.
Emma Vigland
I've decided that, yeah, that he, yeah, he's coming to town. He's not coming to Canada, unfortunately. That's a big issue. With all the problems we're having between America and Canada. We're missing out on some of your best comedians. It won't come here anymore.
Sam Cedar
I'm.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I can't. I want to make. I want to go, but I want my wife to go because I want somebody that doesn't know that Jim Brewer's bad and crazy to be there with.
Sam Cedar
Me and just videotape her the whole time. Just watch her reaction as she's totally like. It becomes clear to her. It probably wouldn't take long. We've actually got a new clip of Jim Brewer because we.
Emma Vigland
From the Bruniverse.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, yeah. What do you call it? The Bruniverse. Oh, is that.
Emma Vigland
Bruniverse? He's got, he's got a bunch of young kids. No, they're like 17 year old kids or something that are like running his boards and stuff. And he's doing a show in a.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
There's the guys.
Sam Cedar
Oh my God. We've, we've, we've played a bunch of these, like where he's doing, you know, sort of his Rupert Pupkin thing where he's like, you know, doing stand up and, you know, these. And so those are the kids who.
Emma Vigland
Are on the boys. They call them the Brew Boys. They like, they. He'll be like, he'll make a reference or something and it's clear they have no idea right there. It's like they're on a different, completely different generation. And we're trying to figure out who they. I think he's got daughters, so they might be like daughter's boyfriends. They come over something up here. You got to go help my dad with something.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
They're. They're trying to become heirs to the Jim Brewer fortune.
Emma Vigland
The Goat Boy. The Goat Boy.
Chris James
I have a.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Actually I have a action figure of Goat Boy in my office.
Chris James
Chris has a theory about Goat Boy, right?
Emma Vigland
Oh, my theory is that. About Jim Brewer is that if you guys remember the Goat Boy from Saturday Night Live. My theory is.
Sam Cedar
Are you kidding? Of course.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
One thing.
Emma Vigland
But my theory is that Goat Boy is the real guy and Jim Brewer is a character that the go.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
But yeah, those young men, because we, we had wondered forever who those guys were. And then they showed them. And Chris was like, well, we probably shouldn't show this. There is sons. And then somebody in the chat was like, no, they're his. They're not his sons. He has daughters. And now we're just like, why are 17 year olds helping Jim Brewer do his weird basics?
Sam Cedar
I have an idea.
Heather Digby Parton
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
I think it has to do with like the 350 an hour that he pays.
Chris James
Yeah, you can use the gaming PC.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, exactly.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
That's what it seems like to that. Because one guy, I don't know why he needs three people, by the way. Like, he needs one of them to say he needs just one of them to tell him to stop messing around with the microphone because he always.
Emma Vigland
He makes the mic. It makes all these noises when he holds it.
Brian Quimby
Yeah, because he walks around like Freddie Mercury with like half a mic stand.
Emma Vigland
He's got so much, he's got all that energy and stuff. And then, yeah, he, he went on Kill Tony recently.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Chris's favorite show, Kill.
Emma Vigland
My favorite show, the Kill Tony podcast. And he's like, he's like, man, I told these, these young guys will Kill Tony that I was on it. They were going crazy. And then they're like, yeah, yeah, I guess we've heard of it.
Chris James
So this clip here is prominently features the Brew Boys. And it's actually shocking Because Jim looks great in it, which, you know, is. It might be a little bit unbalancing.
Sam Cedar
But we're trying to throw you a curveball here, guys. You can.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
You can pause him at any. Sam, you can pause him at any time. And it looks crazy. Like, there's no. He's the pause king.
Sam Cedar
Where.
Emma Vigland
It doesn't matter where you pause him. He looks completely insane in a totally unique way every time.
Chris James
Here's the brew boys trying to give a Jim something they'll think he'll approve of. And his reaction is not what they're expecting. Expecting.
Sam Cedar
We'll start with you, Kyle.
Heather Digby Parton
All right.
Sam Cedar
Have you seen what's been going on in Venezuela? I mean, the US Went in. We did. I know it happened. All right, but did you see what the White House put out after the fact?
Chris James
No.
Sam Cedar
What they put out. All right, let me show you. You can't tell me. No, you're gonna. I'm gonna like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why am I gonna like it?
Emma Vigland
It's hilarious.
Sam Cedar
Yes. Oh, okay. And now, if you don't know, now.
Brian Quimby
You.
Sam Cedar
The White House, put this out. Oh, this is. Okay, this. You can't tell me. You can't tell me. The leaders of the world are just like, all right, I say we totally release this. Like.
Georgia Fort
This is.
Sam Cedar
This is Kardashians. This is. What do we. What do we watch it? A Netflix special like this? I. It means nothing to me.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
This is goofy.
Emma Vigland
Oh, boy. Yeah.
Sam Cedar
I mean, does he go on and wait, does this. What. I wanted to know where he goes with this.
Chris James
Yeah, we'll go a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, goofy.
Sam Cedar
I. I got nothing to say about what.
Heather Digby Parton
What.
Sam Cedar
What do you think about this?
Chris James
Be honest.
Sam Cedar
What do you think about this? What is. What is your generation think about all this that's going on? What do you think we were doing, first of all? Do you think it really happened? Let's start with that. I don't. Do you think middle is in the middle?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
If that kid.
Sam Cedar
I don't think that kid shaves yet.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah, he's not. He's in high school. There's no way that kid's in college. He's just my. I have a daughter in college. I know what a college kid looks like. And the. This. That guy looks 17, which. Why is he get. Where did he find these guys? That's the thing. Like, was he.
Sam Cedar
I mean, it could be his intern. I. I don't. I mean, but it's. I can't wait. What's amazing is that I'm not Sure. That anybody knows anything beyond that video. And so Brewer's asking their opinion and they're gonna be like, I don't know. And Brewer's gonna be like, I don't know. But the video is ridiculous.
Emma Vigland
What it is. No one has any information on it at all. So then you just get this guy who's kind of confused. People are saying he's drunk. I don't know.
Sam Cedar
He is.
Emma Vigland
I think, I think.
Brian Quimby
Yeah.
Emma Vigland
But he's just kind of like lost in his thoughts and there's a lot of dead air and stuff, which by the way, this is not a live thing. He could have cut out that stuff.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
But he's also. Can I say he's mad? I. I don't know if you know this, Sam. He's really mad at Ron DeSantis.
Sam Cedar
Oh, yes. Because of the chem trails.
Brian Quimby
We do research over here.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, I know.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, he kept.
Sam Cedar
I mean, listen, we don't have the chemtrail problem up here in New York State because Hokul's pretty good about this stuff. But yeah, we follow. Like that's why I wouldn't go to Florida because of the chemtrails.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Of course, every time I saw chemtrails in Florida, I pointed at him and said to my wife, Jim Brewer probably hates this.
Sam Cedar
Let's, let's play. I want to watch a little more and see where he goes with this. Because I want to see this. Because a 17 year old kid like this, he could put this on his college resume. Like I explained Maduro to Jim Brewer.
Chris James
And he was not happy with me.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
He got mad.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, Red hat. You know, I'm exaggerating, but it's all different outfits and all that. And it's a great, here's, it's, it's great distraction away from Epstein list. It's a great distraction away from the Gaza Strip and people getting blown to pieces. And we're gonna build a really nice real estate. Damn right. And there's distraction from people getting murdered and who is on the Epstein list going, how old are you, child? They'll never find out.
Brian Quimby
That's also how he hired his producers.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We got the devil. We didn't get the British guy, but we did get the devil.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, the British guy is the British guy. And the devil. The British guy. Anytime there's someone who's like prim and proper or whatever, he'll do a British guy. And then he loves to do the devil for some reason, you know, he just loves to screech into the microphone like that. But yeah, his politics are weird because.
Sam Cedar
I mean, those are, yeah, like kudos to him. I mean, like everything. I don't know that it, I don't know that it's just a distraction from the Epstein files, but it is its own thing. But the idea that he's like calling out what's happening in Gaza and the Epstein files in themselves. I mean, yeah, he's fully.
Chris James
And here's the part a little bit later in the clip where he talks about the Trump administration and basically the offers of mea culpa where.
Sam Cedar
But I'm not getting involved in a whole, hey, we're number one. I'm done with that. I'm done with it. I was done with a long time ago. I feel like I got Trojan horsed by the current administration. Totally Trojan horsed. Thinking about peace. It disturbs me. It's evil. I choose. It's evil. I choose love over evil. And that's the best I can tell you. I'm not, I'm not getting into this clown show.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
That poor 17.
Emma Vigland
I mean, I feel like he, right now. If Trump saw this clip, he would have an easy go in on him though, because you do the old Barney Frank because look at, he's got them nipples protruding. Yeah, he kind of looks and all nasty in that shirt. But yeah, he's, he's. I don't know when he. Trump lost him, but yeah, he's maybe because Trump's not talking about chem trails.
Chris James
Possibly. I think it's 90% of it. Yeah.
Emma Vigland
Yeah.
Brian Quimby
I do believe EPA commissioner is talking about chemtrails, so he should be a little valid.
Chris James
Yeah, but Brian, the planes are still.
Emma Vigland
Flying in Florida, so yeah, it was.
Brian Quimby
All talk, no walk.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
You go to Naples, Florida, you can't get away from the chemtrails there.
Sam Cedar
I mean, it is. I like, I, I would love to sit down with a list and map his political views because what, like just.
Brian Quimby
Throw spaghetti sauce at the wall?
Sam Cedar
That's the map. But honestly, like, you know, like, what, what's operating here? And I don't know, I don't know, maybe he's just sort of crazy in some fashion. But like what? I'm curious if he represents a political perspective. There are other people going out there. You know, I listen to Brewer because obviously he's hugely funny, but also I am one to one on. I'm with him on all. We sync up almost perfectly. I wonder if there's like a, like two or three people who say that.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, there are.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I read the comments on his posts. All the time. But you know, they remind me of. Is that people right. Like really close after 9, 11 that got really into loose change and weren't really Republicans or Democrats, but then they all turned into Ron Paul guys, right?
Emma Vigland
By the way, don't say it. Door knocked for.
Sam Cedar
I didn't doorknock for Ron Paul.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I had a sign in my yard for Ron Paul. Listen, it was a quick thing.
Sam Cedar
Did you paint the town, Ron? I wanted drugs.
Emma Vigland
He wanted drugs to be.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I was really, really addicted to pills at that time. And I was like, imagine if I go to the grocery store and get these things.
Sam Cedar
So material. You had a material. Your politics were informed by material needs and he had a policy to provide for it.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I will say this I do want to say I listened in 2003. I was listening to like Rush Limbaugh and shit like that in my van when I was working. And then I seriously. No. Started listening to the majority report in 2004. And that was like what turned me into. Well, like that's from Ron Paul.
Emma Vigland
That's common, I think. Rush Limbaugh to Majority Report.
Chris James
Limbaugh.
Sam Cedar
The Majority Report pipeline was pretty pronounced, particularly in. Yeah, in.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I'll say what I think happened. This George W. Bush guy, I was training him at the cable company and every day he was bringing me stacks of paper.
Sam Cedar
Oh, not literally George W. Bush. Okay, okay, okay.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
No, he would bring me these stacks of paper and be like, this is. This is proof of the WMDs and all this stuff. And I think I hated that guy so much. I was just like, I'm not Republican anymore. And then Air America launched and I, I was listening, listening to it all day. I was like, download it.
Sam Cedar
Sorry, that's awesome.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
And listen to it. So you did change me back then and then turn me into this, which is pretty impressive.
Sam Cedar
Prominent leftist. He used to.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, he was like we're talking pilled out cable guy. Once drove the Gable truck on top of someone's car, crashed it into a ditch. Was just like in a violence gang. He was.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I wasn't in a violence.
Emma Vigland
Proper dirty bag. He went by Queeber. His name say that on here. So you to rescue a guy like that? That's pretty good.
Sam Cedar
Well, that's great. How do you guys know each other? Just from I.
Emma Vigland
When Brian used to have a show called Street Fight Radio that he did. That was a politics show and he did a. A like a series called Shock.
Sam Cedar
Did you call in as a fake caller? And I wish.
Emma Vigland
No, I never did that. I just. I. Yeah. On Shocktober. We started doing Felix Beiderman from Chapo, and Brian and myself did a. A series called Shocktober that we still do now every October, where we cover shock jocks like Bubba the Love Sponge and Man Cow Mueller and people like that. The Grease man, who's one of our favorites. I don't know.
Sam Cedar
Grease Man. Holy.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
He's still out there, Sam.
Sam Cedar
And he's doing. Oh, I don't think I've listened to him in 30 years.
Emma Vigland
Oh, that's what he was in his heyday. But he does cameos now and most.
Sam Cedar
Of the cameos at that time. Yeah, I used to listen to him in the morning at D.C. when I was like 18, I was working in the Hill and I used to listen to the Grease Man.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah.
Emma Vigland
For anyone who doesn't know the Grease Men, one thing is like on Futurama, Zap Branigan or whatever, that character that Billy west did was based on that void. Like, he was basing his voice partially on the Grease Man. He would do these, wow, crazy, like, wild, wacky voices. But yeah, he still does cameos now. It's one of the saddest things ever. He's extremely elderly.
Sam Cedar
He must be, like in his 80s.
Emma Vigland
So he's almost as old as the camera is close to his face when he records a cameo.
Sam Cedar
And he.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Most of his cameos are from us, not.
Emma Vigland
We don't. Yeah, like people who, People who watch our channel or, or listen our show, they want to. They'll get them to say a bunch of silly stuff or whatever, but about.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Swing, stuff like that, like, they try.
Emma Vigland
To know about the Pineapple lifestyle.
Sam Cedar
I, you know, I, I barely. I just remember. I, I honestly, like, if you guys had not brought him up, I would. I would certainly have passed away without ever thinking about him again. And I'm trying to, like, I just remember the Grease Man. I just remember the name of the Grease Man. I remember he was like a morning guy.
Emma Vigland
He was the biggest.
Sam Cedar
I feel like I won tickets to the Dead and Tom Petty and Bob Dylan that summer from him.
Emma Vigland
That's incredible. What did you. Did you have to let him tell your wife that she was going to give him a snarlin or something. He'd have people give the phone to their wife in bed and then he would say really horrible things.
Sam Cedar
I remember that night.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
My God, he, you know, got fired twice for extreme racism. Like, in a way that was like the first time he got fired. It was insane. The stuff.
Sam Cedar
That's how you built a career in that era.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I think he Went the second time was. Yeah, the second time was like, it.
Emma Vigland
Was, yeah, it was pretty, pretty abhorrent stuff that he said. But yeah, which was kind of wild, right? Because he was also, he's just wacky kind of guy. He wasn't a political person. So he was this wacky dude who then came out and was like, showed himself to be this really bad racist and never really recovered. He started doing a call out show where he was like, it was like he paid for his time and he would literally, people would give him the numbers and he would call them. And we have a one clip we love to play where the guy's just like, I'm just heading out the door. Actually, Grease Buddy, you don't really have time to talk to you. And that was kind of the vibe of it, you know, really sad.
Sam Cedar
That is an amazing idea for a show, though. It's just like calling people who don't want to talk to you. Listen, I'm on the radio. I really need to. Okay, all right, well, I'll catch you later.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We, we. I have 20 hours of the Grease man on my computer right now. If you ever need Grease Man.
Sam Cedar
I think I, I think I've been satiated remembering him. I think that's enough.
Emma Vigland
Do you listen to any other. Did you listen to any other, like, man? No, I guess, man.
Sam Cedar
I know, man. I definitely listen to Man Cow because he was right wing by the time I listened to him. But I would listen to a lot of right wing talk radio when I. And you know, and then like Nori, I would do coast to coast, mostly with Nori, a little bit with Art Bell. I mean, I, I, I listen to a lot of talk radio as like the Ova.
Emma Vigland
The Love Sponge. No, Bubba, the Love Sponge.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
You aren't above the love.
Brian Quimby
Course.
Sam Cedar
I, I remember Hogan's friend.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, Hawks buddy, who.
Sam Cedar
Well, but a lot of times when I was listening to radio was also like, you know, when you actually had to listen on radio, like, there was no, like, you know, like Phil Henry before, you know, like early Phil Henry. Although at that time, I think you get CDs too, after a while.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, well, yeah, those guys would put out CDs always. That was a huge thing. They would put out compilations and they'd.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Be like, I have those too.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, people send us all this stuff.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I have this man record that somebody sent me.
Sam Cedar
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Emma Vigland
The law man.
Sam Cedar
Why is it within arm's reach of you?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Because I had to show, I had to show it on the stream.
Sam Cedar
Grieceman. Came out of nowhere. And it's all right. The album right here.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Well, Grease man comes up with me anytime. Me and Chris talk.
Sam Cedar
Yeah.
Emma Vigland
And I mentioned it before, but saying it's like a pineapple lifestyle and Macau. You sort of dodged that one, Sam. But I was asking you what you know about the Pineapple Lifestyle. That's the swinger. The swinger lifestyle.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Pineapple, yeah.
Sam Cedar
Why do they call it the Pineapple lifestyle?
Emma Vigland
You don't know?
Sam Cedar
Like, I don't know.
Emma Vigland
If you. If you see an upside down pineapple, though, genuinely, like, if you see an upside down pineapple anywhere, that means that it's like a swinger friendly place or that's a reference to swinging and pineapple stuff. That was our first episode we ever did. We covered this, like, swinger couple that goes to sex clubs and gives tours and stuff. So it's unfortunately become, like, a big part of our. Of our show, you know, regardless of if we wanted to.
Chris James
Strongly associated with the lifestyle.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, we're strongly associated with the Pineapple lifestyle. Even though I'm in a. We're both married. And then, you know, that's a big.
Sam Cedar
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why in any way inhibit the pineapple lifestyle?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Chris is like a prerequisite swinger. Yeah, Chris is kind of a swinger.
Emma Vigland
I mean, listen, there's only one of us who, when there. Brian used to actually attend sex parties. And that's. He claims he never went upstairs. He said, no, I stayed downstairs. I'm like, well, you're still at a sex party, you know.
Sam Cedar
Downstairs and upstairs at the sex party where the sex.
Emma Vigland
Was happening is upstairs.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I would go to my friend porno Sean's house on Friday nights, and we'd all be hanging out.
Sam Cedar
You say porno Sean?
Emma Vigland
He was gathering porno to open a porno shop.
Sam Cedar
Okay.
Emma Vigland
So he was gathering large quantities of pornography in high school.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
I asked him how. I asked him why he kept buying porno one time, because every time we went, he was stop and buy some porno. And he was like, I'm going to open up a porno store in Hawkeye Lake. He's like, there are no porno stores there. It's a.
Emma Vigland
It's like a huge. Yeah, you saw a big hole in the market. And he's just like, yeah, people love porno. I mean, look how much I love it.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
But. But I would go to his house and we'd all be partying, and then people would start disappearing upstairs. And once, you know, enough people were upstairs at the orgy, it's like me and my wife were like, let's get out of here.
Chris James
Here.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
You know, we jump in the car and take off because there's nobody to talk to because they're all up doing an orgy. But I wasn't at the orgy. I was just at the party that turned into it. And I even would say being at. I was at the party when it was a party, not when it was an orgy.
Emma Vigland
So he went back to the party again, knowing that that's what it was going to become.
Sam Cedar
Well, the first part of the poor. You're just more comfortable with the first part of the. The sort of the 44 party. I like the beginning of the party.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
It's fun and stuff.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, that's fair.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
All my friends were there.
Emma Vigland
But Sam, you know nothing about it. You've never even been to like a swinger club or anything like that.
Sam Cedar
No, I. I have not, actually. I mean, I'm not. I'm not against it. I'm not shaming in any way. I just have never. I. I'm just not even aware. I didn't. Now that I know about the Pineapple, maybe things will start to pick up for me a little bit. I'm sure. I've seen the upside down Pineapple.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
It's funny because we found so on YouTube, there are so many videos of. Of tours of sex clubs. And like, they're all glossy and done really well.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, very. They're very high production value. It's like seven, so they make them look very good. But then we found the channel. I don't even want to say them because you guys are a really big show. I don't want people to go. But we found this couple who. They show you the real nitty gritty.
Sam Cedar
Of what it are.
Emma Vigland
They don't have the production. They don't have the good life. They show you what it actually is, and they are haunting. There's one of them when you look it up on Google Maps and it's just like this giant barn on the side of a highway. And then. But the inside is like this. This wild sex club.
Chris James
So.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, we learned all kinds.
Sam Cedar
You're gonna have to send us a link after the show.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah, the Ecoasys store is just so crazy because it's like the.
Sam Cedar
The. None of the.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
None of the walls go up to the ceiling. So you can go into these little rooms. But then when you.
Sam Cedar
Oh, yeah, of course. No, you need circulation.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
But they'll go into these little rooms and there will be a bed with like two condoms on it. And it just looks so scary. A towel and two condoms.
Emma Vigland
It really looks like found footage horror.
Sam Cedar
It looks like it's so badly lit.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
And painted, it's like really bad. And then like they'll go into a room and there will be like a.
Heather Digby Parton
A.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
A gynecologist table and stuff. And you're like, I don't know what's going on here. I don't like it. You know what I mean? And like in the middle of it, they have an orgy couch.
Emma Vigland
But we cover a lot of stuff, Sam. On the show, we don't have different stuff.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We mostly the sex clubs.
Emma Vigland
Yeah, we cover all. Every, every week. We just. What was the most recent one that we did, Brian?
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
What was the network guy?
Emma Vigland
Food Network guys. So we'll just. Yeah, we do a lot of non sexual stuff. I just speak for people listening. It's not like if you listen to a main episode, we're not gonna be talking about sex stuff.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
No, that's on the Patreon.
Emma Vigland
On the Patreon.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
And the first few episodes of the show where we were obsessed.
Sam Cedar
YouTube. No YouTube.
Emma Vigland
We don't have you.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
No, we need to do that.
Emma Vigland
Started a YouTube channel, but we don't have any. It's. Brian and I are the only people who do the show. Like, we don't have a crew of people or anything like that. So I don't know, it's. I think maybe we should have. Maybe able to help and then we could do stuff like that. But yeah, we're mo. We're just on itunes and Spotify and all that stuff.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, maybe the Brew crew. A couple of guys.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
When I was on vacation, I was telling my wife about Jim Brewer. Which time we're driving the last time. The last time when we were driving to the Keys and she was like, what's this show called? Brouhaha? And I was like, no, that makes sense. Like, that actually makes sense. No, it's called the Bruniverse, which doesn't make any sense in any world at all. It's crazy. You can think of five better names for his podcast than. Than he did.
Emma Vigland
All right, let's do it. No, I'm just joking.
Sam Cedar
Maybe next week on. On the. The Guys podcast. Five Alternate Names for Brewers Podcast. There it is.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Okay, we'll do it by Sunday. I'll make Chris do it next week.
Emma Vigland
We're. We're actually covering it. We've already recorded. We're doing Bald guys, which is quite an interesting episode ball.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
We follow with big Boobs guys. After that. Just because Sometimes we got to go back to our roots. You know, guys that love big boobs.
Sam Cedar
Ryan Quimby, Chris James. Been a lot of fun guys story.
Emma Vigland
Sam. Brian, when he was younger, he, he used to suck on a girl's titties for three hours instead of having fun. It just reminded me of it. He hates when I tell that to people he admires. And I just know he's a really big fan of yours, so I wanted.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
To mention that that's a legit panic.
Brian Quimby
In your eyes when he started that story.
Sam Cedar
Made me laugh.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
So every time, every time he did it, he did it with Tim Heidecker. He did it with, he did it to Joe Pera when Joe Pera was on.
Chris James
Yeah.
Emma Vigland
Sorry, you. As a format you got to follow. I'm sorry.
Sam Cedar
No, that's, that's, I mean, I, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure she enjoyed. I'm sure she.
Emma Vigland
Well, no, she wanted him to do more. She was clearly. Anyway.
Sam Cedar
We will put a link to the guy's podcast in the. Our podcast and YouTube description. Brian Chris, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.
Emma Vigland
Thanks so much.
Chris James
Thank you.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Thanks for having us.
Sam Cedar
All right, folks. Well, I guess we're going to do a freebie Friday today, right?
Brian Quimby
Seems like it.
Sam Cedar
We slide Chris on the. That was fun.
Chris James
That's one of my favorite shows.
Sam Cedar
Seems a real shame to go back to the news.
Chris James
You want to ease in with this Trump clip about Canada and their relationship with China.
Sam Cedar
Yes, apparently. Well, Donald Trump is mad that Canada signed this deal. This was three weeks ago now with Canada about EV cars. And then Carney speaking at Davos suggesting that the world order as led by the United States is over. Which is not to say that he doesn't want sort of a. The same type of neoliberal type of structure of the world. It's just that he just doesn't think the United States is going to be the basis of it and they're going to find a new one. And then today, Trump met with Alberta separatists. We were talking about Bannon earlier in the program. Bannon is convinced that we, you know, is now starting to say we need Canada for security reasons. And again, it's hard to know. Like, the whole Greenland thing seems to have like, dissipated. Who knows, you know, who got paid what for what in that instance, the Canada thing, again, is unclear. Like what. It's the idea that we're going to have like new states that are going to be Canada or Canadian provinces is bizarre. But this is the universe in which they live in. And Canada was, you know, talking about putting some type of tariffs or restrictions on airplanes. And so Trump threatened 50% tariffs on Canadian airplanes. But, you know, it's Taco Trump to some extent, but here is Trump talking about Canada.
Heather Digby Parton
Mr. President, what do you think about.
Nicole Helget
The UK getting into business with China?
Heather Digby Parton
Keir Starmer is in Beijing.
Sam Cedar
Well, it's very dangerous for them to do that. And it's even more dangerous, I think, for Canada to get into business with China. Canada is not doing well. They're doing very poorly. And you can't look at China as the answer that. I know China very well. I know President Xi is a friend of mine. I know him very well. But that's a, that's a big hurdle to go over. When you get Canada, the first thing they're going to do is say you're not allowed to play ice hockey anymore. That's not good. Canada's not going to play.
Brian Quimby
That face is right.
Sam Cedar
That's the, that's the danger for Canada to get in bed with China. You won't be able to play ice hockey anymore.
Brian Quimby
He talks to us like we're children, like there'll be no more ice cream.
Sam Cedar
Yeah.
Chris James
I mean, that's one of the most shocking things he said in like, as we've been marking his decline. Like, how does that even operate in his head? How could China make Canada not play hockey?
Brian Quimby
We don't need to play it. But another good one Trump said the other day was yesterday or today. He said that he hired Doug Burgum because he saw a video of his wife and thought he she was attractive. And that's how he got a hold of Doug Burgum.
Sam Cedar
I didn't, I didn't know where to rate him until I saw his wife.
Chris James
His wife is at least a nine.
Sam Cedar
Maybe. Should we, Should we take phone calls?
Chris James
Well, let's do a call in one second.
Sam Cedar
Oh, let's do the Holman thing too, though. I want to talk about this. Let's. I don't know if we have time for calls. We'll get there.
Brian Quimby
Speaking of fortunate son.
Sam Cedar
Yeah. Tom Holman has come in. He's talking about pulling out of Minnesota, the ice surge. I don't know if it's worth believing as much as it is, you know, trying to be a little more low key about these things. But listen to the way he talks about this. I want to remind you, Tom Homo was a cop and then he worked for customs, border patrol. He's never, he has never been in the military. I mean, like. Like a military person. It could cut both ways, right? You get used to certain military jargon and you express. He'll express it in contexts that aren't necessarily military, or you'd be sensitive to using military terms and stay away from it. But Tom Homan embodies the entire cosplay quality of ice, of all of it. I mean, it is all so much about guys wishing that they had been something else and being that thing. But you can see the insecurity. Again with the masks. But here is Tom Homan announcing a bit of a drawdown. Can you please be specific about how many ICE and how many Border Patrol agents are currently operating in the state?
Tom Homan
I think we're looking or three, around 2,000. There's been some rotations. Another thing I witnessed when I came here. I'll share this with you. I met with a lot of people. A lot of the agents, they've been in theater. Some of these people have been in theater for eight months. So there's going to be rotations of personnel, hopefully less. Now that we have some agreements, maybe we can make it more efficient and safe. But they've been in theater a long time. So there's rotations happen all the time to get people out here and go home, get some rest and see their families day after day. Can't eat the restaurants day after day. Having people spit on you and blow whistles at you day after day, having all these threats at you day after day, having people trying to interfere with you day after day. You know, they're human. So, you know, we've got to rotate these people and we want. Already rotated some. But my main focus now is drawdown based upon the great conversations I've had with your state and local leaders. Again, I'm not a fool. I'm not walking away without seeing this put in place. But I take the word of the people I met with. I think they're honest, I think they're good brokers, that they want public safety protected and they also want what's happening in the city to go away. And that's what that's my goal.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Now.
Sam Cedar
I. Let's just start with that last line. They want public safety and they want what's happening in the city to go away. I think the latter. What's happening in the city is referring to the ICE people. Like there is a difference between public safety and the invasion of the ICE people. I mean, now it's unclear what it is that he's negotiated from, you know, Minneapolis officials Or Minnesotan officials, I don't know. But the idea that like these guys are like, you know, they've got the thousand yards there, they've been out there, they've been in the shit and now they're coming back like verdun blowing whistles. We're giving them a couple of weeks in Hanoi and they're just going to get some R and R. We're going to send them to Hawaii for some R and R. So they get some downtime. These guys have just been, they've been through the meat grinder. I mean you have no idea, you have no idea what it is. Can you imagine how many mothers they ripped from their children? And they're going to hear the children cry over and over again.
Chris James
It's great that we're in a theater. Like it's the Pacific.
Sam Cedar
Exactly. I mean that's the whole point. Like this guy is like talking like it's. They've been, you know, people at the front lines of this. So many elderly women that they've had the tackle, they have had the chi babies crying that they made cry accidental times.
Brian Quimby
They've tear gassed themselves.
Sam Cedar
There's only so many times when you can smash a car window and not have it like just tear you apart inside.
Brian Quimby
There's only so many skulls you can punch before you break a knuckle.
Chris James
And I mean this is just a broader thing about priorities. Like all these, the people who are ICE agents, Adam Johnson said this. It's basically a revolt of the unemployable against the unemployed. But you look at what we're doing as a country, there's huge portions of the south, millions of people that had to go days and days without power.
Sam Cedar
Yeah.
Chris James
Meanwhile we're deploying these chuds, some of them probably from the Nashville area to Minnesota, to get blown whistle, to get whistles blown in their ears and occasionally to shoot citizens of that city a brainless like, I mean, fever. We're in right now as a country.
Sam Cedar
Half a billion dollars on military deployments of the National Guard deployment. I'm not talking about ice. Billions and billions of dollars on, on, on the ICE deployments. And, and for, and for, I mean look, they have a different agenda. And so the calculation that you bring up about where we're not spending money is meaningless to them. They, Stephen Miller, and you know, obviously with, with Trump's blessing and with the blessing of the entire Republican Party, wants to purify this country as part of his sort of ethno nationalist racist agenda. He wants to purify it. And he will start with the easiest elements of non white people he can, and that's immigrants. And yeah, there'll be some white immigrants that get swept up in that. But. And then he will just keep moving to not undocumented. He's already moved into documented immigrants. They're going to roll back temporary protected status for Haitians in this country. And I think it's happening sometime in February, the day after you're going to see them pour into Springfield, Ohio and round up all of those Haitians that they claimed were eating cats and dogs. This is going to keep going. It's going to keep going. And, you know, I don't know if every community is going to be able to fight back like the way that Minneapolis did. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know what it was about Minneapolis, the people, the structure of the community. I mean, but their model and certainly activists are going to learn from it. But I mean, it took more than activists. You know, people just came out in Minneapolis.
Chris James
Minnesota. Minneapolis plays with recent history of that, obviously with George Floyd, for instance. But even going back to general strike back in the 30s.
Sam Cedar
Yeah. So general strike happening today. I know that my son was part of a walkout at his school. And I think it's, you know, I don't know. I guess people can argue as to whether, you know, it's. It's good to call for a general strike nationally a week before, but I think there's some muscles maybe that need to be built and. We'll have more to say about it on Monday when we get like sort of a notion of exactly what went down.
Chris James
Do you see this high school student struck by a vehicle?
Sam Cedar
Oh, yeah. Let's play this. This is out of Nebraska and Fremont High School. People were protesting the ICE stuff. And a MAGA driver, we know he had a big flag on the back and, and to be fair, has turned himself in. They were kids, right? I mean, the, the driver, he looks like a teenager.
Brian Quimby
Yeah. Yes.
Sam Cedar
But just take a look at this. This is what, you know, this is what people are learned. You know, this is exactly where the parents at.
Chris James
Yeah.
Heather Digby Parton
Yep.
Sam Cedar
And. And imagine, I just want to imagine, like, you know, if this driver was a black kid, you'd already be hearing calls to arrest the parents.
Emma Vigland
Oh, my God.
Sam Cedar
I think we. Do we have another angle of that. Yeah. I mean, it's horrible. I mean, I don't think we need to watch it. Yeah.
Chris James
I mean, apparently the person in the vehicle was circling a few times and then got out to, I guess engage with the protesters. And then drove off like that. And smacked that girl. And then drove off and yeah, like you said, turn himself in. But he looked like a teenager. I don't think he bought that vehicle himself. I had to guess, maybe. And with a Trump flag on like, this is. It's been 10 years of sort of conservative adults in this country frankly, poisoning especially young men and how they sort of relate to this country in a way that's, you know, has huge impacts. Like, you see the gender divide politically for Gen Z is like huge. I would have never have thought it could get so imbalanced between like young men, basically right wing and young women. Not. And it's going to come to a head. And, you know, I don't know, it's, it's. I'm just sick of this crap.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, it's not going away. Here is. What should we play here? So let's, Let's play number 11. This is a county employee and she is basically, you know, this is the kind of stuff that we need from, from people who have the confidence of like, you know, being a county employee or being a city employee or something like that. This is going to be helpful. I mean, obviously we need this from community members, but anybody in a position to at least put their authority up against isis, it's extremely helpful. And here is, do we even know the name of the woman?
Brian Quimby
Yeah, her name is Nicole Helget and she works at Nicollet county, southwest of Minneapolis. Rural, very rural county. And she posted this, her husband posted this. So it's all fine to say her name.
Sam Cedar
Okay.
Nicole Helget
I work for the county. If, if you have a specific person in mind, like, I can likely help you get that person out of here. These families are, they're scared to death. And most of them are just like, what's that? Because you guys keep coming in there and, you know, everything in the news shows you just showing up and popping people in the face and knocking down doors. Okay, so let me just say, if you have a person, let us help you. I know just about every family in here. We don't need to be spending taxpayer money like this. We do not need to be tormenting little children. I mean, I know that some of you people were at one of my houses up here knocking on the door and impersonating local police and telling him.
Sam Cedar
To open the door.
Nicole Helget
Yes, you were. No, maybe not you, sir, but some of your cohorts were. I was on the phone with the family when it happened. So don't tell me I'm lying. Now give me a name. I will go and get that for you and bring it here and I'll save the taxpayer, probably. How much are you guys spending today? I know you don't.
Heather Digby Parton
You think.
Nicole Helget
You think these guys are on somebody's salary? Get your head out of your ass. Give me the name. I will go get the person for you right now. So that tells me you're not really interested in doing law enforcement here today. Ben, why aren't you targeting. You come in here and you're knocking on five different houses. You don't know. What house is he in? Where does he live? What did he do? What crime?
Heather Digby Parton
He's.
Sam Cedar
What?
Nicole Helget
Let me see it. I will go get him for you.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Unless you're an family member, we don't.
Sam Cedar
Have to show you nothing.
Nicole Helget
Sir, I am trying to help you. I will go get him.
Sam Cedar
He would probably.
Nicole Helget
You shot two Minnesotans in the last 10 days.
Sam Cedar
First of all, I haven't shot.
Nicole Helget
You're in the wrong line of work then, because you, you, you, you. You represent ice, Every single one of you. You are not an independent contractor. You are likely a very poorly trained individual who is now part of this goon squad we have running around this state.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Listen, we're done with this conversation. We're going to continue our operation.
Nicole Helget
This. This. This is a waste of taxpayer money.
Sam Cedar
You know, she was offering to help find the people they're looking for. And the reason why she's making this offer, she knows they're not looking for anybody specifically. They. They would need a judicial warrant. And to get that judicial warrant, they need specific. A name of somebody. Instead, they're going to areas where they suspect there might be undocumented and even documented immigrants, ones who are in, you know, some type of process, getting a work visa, getting even citizenship, whatever it is. And then they will round them up, and with the undocumented ones, they will deport them immediately. With the ones who are documented going through process, they will put them in detention centers that are not just internment camps, but, like, torturous. No heat, crappy food, no medicine. And they will wait until these people come and say, okay, I'm willing to give up the process that I've been following and you can deport me because it's so miserable here. That's the strategy. That is the strategy they're following.
Brian Quimby
She called their bluff.
Sam Cedar
And she called their bluff. Their bluff. And of course, you know, that's it.
Chris James
I'm shocked by how much the, like, Pam Bondies and Caroline Levitz and Trump, they still like to emphasize as if they're only going after hardened criminals. They say look at why, why don't they want. Why are they protecting rapists? We just want to. People need. I guess it needs repeating every time that under Obama, under Trump, the first time under Joe Biden, like there has never been a conspiracy to prevent people who have committed crimes here, if they're undocumented, from facing justice on that. The question is do we need a federal forced to go after the people who are just here undocumented and going through the process. And Stephen Miller and white supremacists who want the ethnic cleansing want those people lumped in too. So when you hear the huge numbers, about 20 million this 50 million undocumented, they're just talking about non white people.
Sam Cedar
Yep. This is from a couple of days ago, but. And maybe people are aware of this guy, his Reverend Rob Schenck. He is a formerly a religious right activist. I feel like I've heard about this guy before, but I found this pretty impressive. Here he is. This is.
Caller / Listener
I'm making up for errors of my past. I spent 35 years as an activist on the religious right doing a lot of damage, helping to deliver the entities that are now inflicting all of this suffering on so many people and in the process contradicting in every possible way the message I thought I was promoting in the those years, but in fact I was doing the opposite. So now I have to do that work of repair and it came too late and I have what time I have, but I want to do that repair. And just being present here and, and being in solidarity with all these folks is part of that repair work in my own soul, but more importantly in the external world where people have to live with the consequences of my decades of harm and injury. So I have to own that. And it's painful, but I found the folks here more gracious than any of the so called Christian leaders that I kept company with in those years that I thought of myself as being. These folks are showing more grace in accepting me and inviting me to walk with them than I would have ever extended to them 10 years ago or 20 years ago or 30 years ago. This is redemption. This is redemption in the big picture and in my tiny little small personal picture.
Sam Cedar
I mean that's pretty. I found that pretty moving. That's from Mother Jones magazine. Shot that video and produced it.
Chris James
Yeah, that's the way.
Tom Homan
I mean.
Sam Cedar
I found that pretty impressive.
Chris James
Bottle that. And put it.
Sam Cedar
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. How do we put that into the Water supply. Should we, let's get to 18 next week because there's been stuff happening in, in New York City. I just briefly will just tease this. Eric Adams blew a big hole in the budget and left a lot of booby traps for Mamdani and he is reacting quickly and trying to figure out what to do. We will get to that, I guess next week. But here is. Should we do 15? Here's Rand Paul, not somebody I would normally champion in any way, but he's got a brand to maintain and good for him. Marco Rubio, the Cuban. Cuba as a country apparently has less than 25 days of fuel remaining on the island. Many of the ships that have been pirated by the United States, the oil ships, at least some of them, were destined to Cuba to provide for oil, whether from Venezuela or other places. And the, you know, for Marco Rubio, the big problem he had with Venezuela was largely, I think, its relationship with Cuba. And he sees Venezuela as a linchpin to finally create, I guess, a counter revolution in Cuba to reinstall all of the people who had essentially benefited from the Batista regime, where United States interests came in and owned a lot of the stuff. And those who worked with the Batista government owned a lot of stuff. And they lost that during the Cuban revolution. Sixty years later, there are still people who are counting on essentially recouping and exploiting those things. So here's Rand Paul questioning Marco Rubio about Venezuela. So I would ask you, if a foreign country bombed our air defense missiles, captured and removed our president and blockaded our country, would that be considered an act of war? Well, I think your question is about the. I will acknowledge you've been very consistent.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
On all these points the entire career.
Sam Cedar
So let me, let me, no matter who the who's in charge. So I will point to two things.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
The first is it's hard for us.
Sam Cedar
To conceive that an operation that lasted.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
About four and a half hours and was a law enforcement operation to capture.
Sam Cedar
Someone we don't recognize, recognized as a head of state, indicted in the United States, wanted with a 50 million dollar would be if it only took four hours to take our president very short. Nobody dies on the other side. Nobody dies on our side. It's perfect. Would it be an act of war? We just don't believe that this operation.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Comes anywhere close to the constitutional definition.
Sam Cedar
But would it be an act of war if someone did it to us? Nobody dies. Few casualties. They're in and out. Boom. It's a perfect military operation. Would that be an act of war. Of course it would be an act of war. I'm probably the most anti war person in the Senate and I would vote to declare war if someone invaded our country and took our president. I mean, you know, Rubio's trying to do a two step. He's saying it wasn't a war. And that's not the question. The question is, is this an act of war? Are you declaring war on a country? When you come in and say and kidnap, it's. It's president.
Chris James
That's just law and order.
Brian Quimby
Yeah. He took two steps out of the paint so that Rand Paul could dunk is what he did.
Sam Cedar
I mean, it was extraordinary. And, you know, it won't mean anything. You know, we are so beyond any type of, like, certainly no one who supports Donald Trump is looking at this stuff and sees it as problematic. Probably more people found, you know, the Carl Reiner, excuse me, the Rob Reiner tweet, more problematic. I mean, I think that's the case. I mean, that's just the sort of the nature of the world we're living in now. But that's, there is no justification for what we did there. And we're still sort of like holding the country hostage, you know, the next set of leaders there.
Chris James
When Kennedy was assassinated and people thought it might have been like a Soviet agent or something like that, there was like, basically an open discussion about like, hey, maybe we should step back from doing coups in other countries and assassinating their leaders and deposing them, because it might have some kind of splashback effect on how the world treats our leaders. And there's no, there's no real, like even attempt to do that these days. Like, oh, we're, we're going to just send a missile and take out Iran's, you know, defense minister, or we're going to kidnap Maduro. And it's like, you are politicians too.
Sam Cedar
Yeah. You're open your targets. Just want to note that Rubio was confirmed unanimously with 99 votes, of course.
Chris James
Yep.
Sam Cedar
I mean, a fellow senator.
Brian Quimby
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
Let's go to the IMs. Sam, will you at least read my first M from earlier today? Let's see that one. I feel like we haven't had a fun half comedy guest breaking down right winger content. That was peak 2019. I am in love with the bit Chris James was doing lately where his face tunes his pictures to look like some fat, angry alcoholic.
Caller / Listener
Okay.
Sam Cedar
This show has changed the world. Crime for me. Oh, change the word crime for me. I'm not able to strike Today. And I feel horrible because of not striking. I decided to join DSA. Wouldn't have known about DSA. Not for Mr. All right, That's pretty good. Nassau county spokesperson. New poll In Michigan shows McMurray in first and El said and last. We need to get that Name recognition up. McMurrow has 22 points in this poll. Said has 16. Stevens has 17. And there's 36% undecided. So, yes, there's a lot. There's a lot of room in that in Michigan right now.
Chris James
Time to lock in.
Sam Cedar
Yep. Crusty gnome. Can we get a link to the orgy in the description? Dimpria. Sam, you should do a movie called Dude, Where's My Shofar Union Fan. San Diego. DSA is nearly at 1000 members. Nice.
Chris James
DSA national is closing in on 100k. I'm pretty sure they're at like 98 or something like that. So now's a good time to get in before if you want to be in the first hundred K.
Sam Cedar
California resistance. Sam, thoughts about the new Bruce Streets of Minneapolis tune? I heard Billy Bragg came out with a song too. I want to hear that. I haven't. I've listened to the. To the Bruce one. I mean, look, I. I'm not a music critic. I am happy for, you know, any type of like cultural resistance or protest. I think that's helpful. You know, there's no substitute for getting out there and getting organized. But if that helps people, which I'm sure it will, then I'm in favor of it. I heard that Dave, was it Dave Matthews also did like. Yeah, the Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young. I don't know. Young was with them at that time.
Chris James
Dave Matthews has great politics. If I knew that back when I was hating. Dave Matthews is a big part of my personality. Like 20 years ago, I would just tell myself, like, go easy.
Sam Cedar
Well, you saw the. You saw what that minister did. There's still time for you.
Chris James
I'm going to go to DMV.
Brian Quimby
10 years of DMV shows you performed.
Chris James
This is redemption.
Sam Cedar
Tell Matt to watch Pablo Torres episode on the Memphis Grizzlies owner. Especially the second one where Pablo has a conversation with the Cus guy about the value of journalism.
Chris James
I saw that. I think that was related to. He's doing some drone sort of startup maybe with Russia. Pablo Torres, so impressive to me doing breaking all of these insanely important stories and getting these billion dollar leaks to basically have to ignore him and not give him comment on it.
Brian Quimby
I did see Netanyahu paying tribute to Robert Kraft.
Emma Vigland
Oh, yeah.
Chris James
That was great.
Brian Quimby
As a New Englander who does not support the Patriots, I felt fine about that.
Sam Cedar
You take your shots. That's. I don't want to talk about that. Nothing to do with football. Why does everything have to be made political.
Brian Quimby
To be fair? It is not the player's fault.
Chris James
Is there a special press box for war criminals?
Sam Cedar
Exactly.
Brian Quimby
I know.
Sam Cedar
I know. Many psychologist. Justin Vernon of Bonivar wore a whistle while accepting a Songwriter of the Year award last night. That's awesome.
Chris James
Awesome. Bony Bar was good stuff.
Sam Cedar
Depressed optimist. Y'. All. Y' all hate my messages. Folks, you don't understand. I. There are I don't know how many 400 IMs here, and they come in really quick. It's completely random. Glenn Beck ate my dad. Dave Matthews, my goat. I've seen him 10 times in concert, have cried at least once. Each time.
Chris James
Solidarity, Carly.
Sam Cedar
Chirk. Tomorrow there is an international bike ride for Alex Preddy. The Angry Catfish Bike Shop and Cafe was Alex Preddy's club. They're pushing the ride, which now has bike rides from Italy to Australia. Look up their social media to find a map of all the known rides. Go for a ride for our fallen biking brother. Definitely not Cameron. Ever since Jamaal Bowman said these politicians think they're doing theater last November, I haven't been able to unhear it. It infuriates me to think that they have to act like they're talking to children. They're so unserious. Dave from Tallinn. I. I've seen.
Heather Digby Parton
You would.
Sam Cedar
I've seen. You would believe.
Tom Homan
Believe.
Sam Cedar
I've seen things you wouldn't believe.
Brian Quimby
That's probably in reference to the Minneapolis theater.
Sam Cedar
Okay, crusty gnomes, can we get a link? Oh, yeah, I already read that, Moja. I was just told that Twitch made Hassan take a training. And the content of the training was made by the adl. I happen to know the people that do his production. Well, I hope he learned something. Yeah, seriously, I hope he takes that footage and actually plays it on his show.
Chris James
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
What can I do to get that training on Poggers? Can you report me for training on Twitch? Pogger, this mass report is everybody right into Twitch. Say Sam Cedar needs the training. Bulletin. Apathy. The world be a better place if Stephen Miller had gone to school with some real black and brown people and gotten his ass properly effed up. I. I'm not sure I think that did happen to him, actually.
Chris James
Yeah, he certainly had people to hate in high school.
Sam Cedar
Hey, Tingle. Abby. Lowell's a guy thank you. And Catherine o' Hara has died. Oh, really?
Brian Quimby
Yeah.
Chris James
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
That's sad.
Brian Quimby
She's one of the funniest people ever.
Sam Cedar
One of the funniest people ever. I mean, go back and watch her on Second City. And. Awesome.
Brian Quimby
Cctv. See, whatever. Sctv.
Sam Cedar
Sctv. Sorry. Yes.
Guest Host / Brian Quimby or Chris James (sometimes overlapping)
Yeah.
Sam Cedar
She was very, very funny. Spaghetti brain.
Brian Quimby
Any Christopher Guest movie, too?
Sam Cedar
Yes, Tom Holman. Sounds like someone put Teddy Ruxpin in the bath. All right, two more, then we're out of here. Leftist rage. You guys should have Brennan Lee Mulligan on Sam. How dare you not spend every second of the show reading my messages. Who's. Who's Brandon?
Chris James
Brendan Lee Mulligan looks like maybe a comedian.
Tom Homan
I don't know.
Sam Cedar
We'll look into it. What's that?
Chris James
It's from college humor.
Sam Cedar
Final IM of the day. Let's go to Moody Guthrie, the caller from ok, Oklahoma, I assume. The other day inspired me to become a member. I'm from okc. My folks live a half a mile from the proposed ICE building. It wasn't built for the purpose. It was a warehouse complete with loading docks. I bet it only has one small restroom. They would just put in cages and call it a day. Barbaric. Luckily, Mayor Holt announced that he talked to the owners and they backed out of the deal. Oh, yeah, I just had that story, though. No doubt the feds will figure out another location here. There's a lot of good folks here in. Okay. We aren't all maggots. I just want to remind other Okies listening to not give up your hope of a better future for our state. We have to stand up for it. Thank you all for. Mr. For everything you do. Thank you. I appreciate the membership and I. This is good stuff. Anything that delays, they're going to come and try and rebuild this. But anything that delays, it is good stuff. War of attrition indeed. Matt, Brian, Emma in absentia. Great job this week. Also, obviously, great job to Dorsey and to Corey and Whitney and always to Kyle and Chris and Maria and Gino and Julie, everybody. Great job. It's a very trying time for really everybody in the country. And obviously, you know, folks in Minnesota and obviously folks who are immigrants and black and brown folks and I mean, everybody's going through is super hard to have to, like, swim in these waters constantly. And so everybody. Good job. Hang in there. We'll be back in February, which is on Monday, and we'll do it again one. One day at a time.
Brian Quimby
The best month this year, the shortest month.
Sam Cedar
That's exactly right. We'll get through this. When we got through 31 days of this, we could do 29. 8.
Brian Quimby
It's not a leap year, is it?
Sam Cedar
Oh, is it 28. Okay. Either way, don't do that to me.
Brian Quimby
Don't give me an extra day.
Sam Cedar
All right, folks, see you on Monday. It might take a strength like I To get to where I want But I know somehow I'm gonna get there I wasn't looking when I just got caught between the truth and the light fall the fountain out Won't make me feel any better yeah, I know the clock is ticking but the meds are gonna kick in and my pilot light shining bright I get somewhere the choice was made for the option where you don't get paid for the road that bends before it finally breaks you I guess you might have lost my drive between the 101 and the 5 do you know how how far the teacher takes you? Yeah, I know the clock is ticking but the men's are going to kick in and that pilot light shining bright.
Episode 3570: "January of Horrors Comes to a Close"
Guests: Heather "Digby" Parton, Bryan Quimby, Chris James
Date: January 30, 2026
In this "Casual Friday" episode, Sam Seder tackles the overwhelming and often bleak political landscape of January 2026, with help from Salon columnist Heather "Digby" Parton and comedy podcasters Bryan Quimby & Chris James ("Guys" podcast). Together, they unpack a month brimming with chilling headlines: expanded ICE raids, journalist arrests, Democratic dithering, and the frenzied tactics of the Trump administration. The show balances sober political analysis with the irreverent humor that makes "The Majority Report" a refuge for its listeners during tough times.
[21:00 - 24:00]
Memorable Quote [23:07]:
Heather: “We’re forced … Bouncing like pinballs from one to the other. And it’s just, you know, it’s exhausting. I think part of it does serve to get the public kind of just overwhelmed… Which works.”
[06:25 - 16:43, then again at 121:07-124:11]
Quote – Georgia Fort [09:02]:
“I don’t feel like I have my First Amendment right as a member of the press, because now federal agents are at my door arresting me for filming the church protest…”
[41:11-51:56]
Quote – Digby [45:15]:
“It’s the sense of stress in our society, that things are coming apart, that there is chaos everywhere … and domestically we have a secret police force running around in our cities and brutalizing people on the streets. And you can see the video of it every single day now … it’s not just that eggs are expensive.”
[24:12-29:22]
Quote – Sam [24:12]:
“Bannon talked about…flooding the zone. He really has a savvy about the media now … he’s also the guy who nurtured Gamergate … in many ways building that online sort of alt-right.”
[34:37 - 41:13]
[50:11 - 56:09]
Quote – Sam [56:09]:
“Now I want you to know I still consider them effing liars. Don’t make me drop the F bomb again. … They are funded liars.”
[47:55, 64:27, 115:19]
Quote – Digby [47:55]:
“I mean, Minneapolis to me is just such an incredible inspiration. I never expected to see this…[with] moms of preschoolers and grandparents out in the streets actually protecting their neighbors… I’m an American and I believe in certain things…”
[110:16 - 113:38]
[66:41 - 104:23]
Quote – Bryan [71:23]:
“One of the most famous things from the show was… this guy was like, ‘How am I supposed to—my wife keeps telling me I’m buying too many guitars’ and one guy just goes, ‘Ask her how many hair straighteners she has.’ Like, women collect hair straighteners!”
[09:02] Georgia Fort, on her arrest:
“I wanted to alert the public that agents are at my door right now … I don’t feel like I have my First Amendment right as a member of the press…”
[21:57] Heather Digby Parton:
“This has been overwhelming this month. Like I keep saying, it’s been the longest year of my life and it’s only been a month…”
[25:38] Sam Seder, on Bannon:
“Oh, yes… when he was in charge of Breitbart, he had Milo Yannianopoulos cover [Gamergate] and nurture the whole thing. It all came out of Breitbart.”
[45:15] Digby, on the limit of “it’s the economy, stupid”:
“It’s the sense of stress in our society… There is chaos everywhere. Donald Trump has come in, he’s completely destroying us around the world, that domestically we have a secret police force running around in our cities…”
[56:01] Sam Seder, on Schumer’s empty threats:
“Now I want you to know I still consider them effing liars. And don’t make me drop the F bomb again. … Where’s my glasses? Oh my God. They’re funded liars.”
[121:23] Nicole Helget, rural county worker confronting ICE:
“I will go and get that for you and bring it here and I’ll save the taxpayer, probably… Give me the name. I will go get the person for you right now… So that tells me you’re not really interested in doing law enforcement here today.”
Despite a month that “feels like the longest year,” Sam and crew urge vigilance, solidarity, and relentless organizing–with Minneapolis as an inspiration, not an exception. The January of Horrors may be over, but the fight (and the laughs) are far from done.