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Emma Viglund
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Matt
The Majority Report with Sam Cedar.
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Emma Viglund
It is Thursday, February 5, 2026. My name is Emma Viglund in for Sam Seder and this is the five time award winning Majority Report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, usa. On the program today, Dan Friedman of Mother Jones will be with us to talk about Trump's war on American history. Also on the program, remember how Democrats ended the government shutdown over a pinky promise from Republicans that they'd work on an ACA subsidy extension? Wall Street Journal reports this morning that talks are dead. So that means like a double premium increase for over 20 million on average Americans in this country. And then something like 5 to 7 million people will just not have health insurance because they can't afford it.
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Brian
At least social murder, I think is what Engels called it.
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Emma Viglund
This comes also as US Companies announce the largest number of job cuts for any January since the Great Recession in 2009. An Oregon district judge rules that ICE must stop arresting people without warrants unless there's a risk of escape. Okay. Homan pulls 700 agents from Minneapolis. But Minnesotans are not satiated by these cosmetic changes. Democratic leadership has their back, though. Just kidding. They've already started caving on their most meager demands for ice, including masks, which requires nothing. We'll be talking about that in just a second. And by talking, I mean I will be yelling, sorta. A Quinnipiac poll finds that 61% of voters think the Trump administration is lying about Preddy's killing. New Virginia Governor Spamberger rolls back the state's police ICE collaboration. Israel kills at least 21 people, including six children, bombing tents and closing the Rafah border crossing just days after reopening it. Subjecting Palestinians to humiliating searches but closing it again. In better news, the Supreme Court allows California's new gerrymandered maps to move forward. That's good. Elon Musk and the other Doge boys will be deposed over their dismantling of usaid. Tulsi Gabbard apparently led an investigation into Puerto Rico's voting machines earlier this year. Or recently, I guess. But the the Director of National Intelligence is not supposed to be conducting domestic investigations like it's against the law. And lastly, Zoran Mandani will endorse Kathy Hochul, effectively killing Delgado's left wing challenge. But hopefully it Means taxes on the rich to fund Mamdani's agenda is on its way. All this and more on today's Majority Report. Welcome to the show, everybody. It's an M Majority Report Thursday. Hello to Matt, hello to Brian, hello to the audience. We'll get right into it here. House Republicans two days ago canceled a planned vote to try to hold Bill and Hillary Clinton in contempt of Congress because they were refusing to testify in the Jeffrey Epstein probe. But again, this is being led by Jim Comer. Remember, he was the guy that was cracking the Hunter Biden case, which was nonexistent. But they're trying to just focus on people who are aligned with Democrats who are in the Epstein files and not the screaming orange elephant in the room of who is currently in the White House and in the Epstein files or.
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Brian
Elon Musk, who they put in charge of looking at fraud just last year.
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Emma Viglund
Right?
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Brian
Massively caught lying about saying, I they wanted me to come to the island so bad I denied them. As opposed to what he actually was doing was saying, hey, when is your wildest party and it not working out?
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Emma Viglund
Yeah.
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Brian
Or Peter Thiel, who we give government contracts to all the time, who is actually like, helping ICE make these databases of American citizens who have a problem with their occupations of our cities all over the Epstein files, these emails that at a time where everyone knew, everyone knew who Jeffrey Epstein was, in fact, like I knew as a College student in 2008. But, you know.
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Emma Viglund
Well, I think it's also, now that you put it that way, like, this is very reminiscent of other Republican tactics of this, like, aesthetic populism without any real meaningful challenge to power. You'll notice that if Republicans are talking about corporations, they're picking out a specific corporation. It's usually about how woke they are or something like that. There's nothing systemic about their challenge to the powerful. And that includes especially the Epstein class. I mean, Thomas Massie was calling out his colleagues and saying, you're protecting your donors. And that is why they were reticent to release these files. So they'd rather go after a former president who hasn't been in power in over a quarter century, because it's not necessarily around a quarter century, because it's not necessarily gonna change anything about the funders of their party or anything systemically right now. Bill Clinton should be held accountable, no doubt, but they throw him overboard.
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Brian
The Democrats should absolutely throw him into the water as like basically bait. And absolutely nothing should be done to protect these folks. But people have to point out that an Investigation that brings Bill and Hillary Clinton should also bring the people who are like. Bill is less in the emails than I was expecting.
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Emma Viglund
Right.
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Brian
I mean, part of that is because his interactions. Epstein goes before email is really that much of a thing. Maybe they had Epstein's faxes from the 90s could be released. But Peter Thiel is in regular, regular, regular contact with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon. I mean, geez.
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Emma Viglund
Right. Who's still calling the shots. And Basic is working with Trump on right now, trying to crack down on the. Crack down on the process of voting. He's encouraging this kind of authoritarian. Yeah, crack down on voting rights.
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Brian
On ice on voting. And yeah, bring Bannon in front of Congress. Of course they're not, because they're protecting those.
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Emma Viglund
Exactly.
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Brian
This is a cover up masquerading as an act of transparency.
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Emma Viglund
100%. But what's interesting about this is that Trump has now pivoted to buttering up the Clintons. Remember that they have been photographed together getting all buddy, buddy. Wasn't Trump at Chelsea Clinton's wedding or was that just Ghislaine Maxwell? No, it was actually Bill and Hillary that were at Trump's wedding. That's what it was. So they go back and there's a distinct possibility that since they share this mutual friend, Jeffrey Epstein, that the Clintons know something about Donald Trump. So that's why he said this to Tony Lamas in an NBC News interview yesterday.
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Dan Friedman
NBC News broke the story today, I.
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Matt
Don'T know if you saw it, that.
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Dan Friedman
The Democrats are already saying, if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has.
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Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
To testify, we're bringing President Trump.
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Dan Friedman
What do you say to that?
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Matt
I think they might say that, you know, but they've already brought me. See, I've been brought. They had me indicted many, many times. Many, many times.
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Dan Friedman
And the President had some surprising thoughts.
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Emma Viglund
About former President Bill Clinton.
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Matt
It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton.
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Emma Viglund
What do you like?
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Brandon
I like.
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Matt
Well, I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me, he understood me. You know, he was the one that said very famously that you don't want to run against Trump. When there were 18 people. There was 18 people, including me, total. And he kept telling them, you don't want to run against Trump, run against anyone, don't run against Trump. And Hillary sort of laughed at him.
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Emma Viglund
Okay, That's a complete revisionist history. The Clinton campaign was elevating Donald Trump with what became infamously known as the Pied Piper strategy. Because she felt that he was an easier candidate to win against. And we all know how that story was written. This comes after two days ago, Jake Sherman of Punchbowl News reported that he was saying these things about the Clintons. I think it's a shame, trump says of the House bringing Bill and Hillary Clinton in to testify. I always liked him talking about Bill Clinton. She's a very capable woman, Trump says about Hillary Clinton. I hate to see it in many ways. Now let's take a little bit of a journey in time to the second debate. I was at this debate. It was a pretty crazy moment to witness covering it. And in 2016, this was the debate that Trump brought those accusers of Bill Clinton to a press conference beforehand, which.
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Brian
Was famously after the grab him by the pussytail, where he basically revealed his true predatory self, talking with Billy Bush, saying, you can do. They let you do whatever there. Grab him by the pussy. He was telling a factual thing that he regularly did just into a microphone. And they called it locker room talk. But actually what it was is the mask slipping on a serial predator.
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Emma Viglund
And that's the premise of this question. You'll see here how Trump is just a much more skilled politician at this period. He's speaking in complete sentences and he's clearly listening to advisors on deflecting from that exact story, which was a very big deal at the time.
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Brian
And so senators were wobbling on the Republican side.
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Emma Viglund
Exactly. So he almost expresses contrition or falsely in this clip, at least, like for political gain. But compare how he just spoke about the Clintons to how he was acting on the debate stage in 2016.
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Caller or Guest
But that was something that happened. If you look at Bill Clinton, far worse minor words. And his was action. His was what he's done to women. There's never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that's been so abusive to women. So you can say any way you want to say it, but Bill Clinton was abusive to women. Hillary Clinton attacked those same women and attacked them viciously. Four of them here tonight. One of the women, who is a wonderful woman at 12 years old, was raped at 12. Her client she represented got him off, and she's seen laughing on two separate occasions, laughing at the girl who was raped, Kathy Shelton, that young woman.
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Brian
It's not the biggest point, but he mentions Hillary laughing twice in both clips, then and now. And just there's people smarter than me that have theorized about the misogynistic imagination and the place of female laughter in it. Pretty on the nose Here, I mean.
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Emma Viglund
And the last election cycle, the fixation on Kama's laugh was the exact same thing. It's.
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Brian
Well, it's their worst sort of nightmare.
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Emma Viglund
Being laughed at by a woman and not eliciting that laughter is something that really angers a misogynist. And that's why. Or being like when he was going after Kaitlan Collins being talked down to. So I mean, it's, it's mostly about just smile and not say much. That's what they want.
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Brian
When the story was about he got off a predator and then laughed at it. Like, the problem is that isn't the laughing about it.
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Emma Viglund
Right, right. More with this a little bit. Yeah.
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Caller or Guest
Asians laughing at the girl who was raped. Kathy Shelton, that young woman is here with us tonight. So don't tell me about words. I am absolutely, I apologize for those words. But it is things that people say. But what President Clinton did, he was impeached. He lost his license to practice law. He had to pay an $850,000.
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Emma Viglund
We got it. But I mean, he also in this debate said that Hillary Clinton would be in jail if he was in power. It's just, it's really remarkable to see this about face and it's so obviously him trying to butter up the Clintons ahead of the scandal. Do you remember that earlier in the last year, Hillary Clinton was starting to say some nice things about Trump's foreign policy? And I was theorizing this at the time as the Epstein kind of story was continuing to pick up, that she was doing the same thing. So we can mock Trump for this and we can show how obviously self interested he is being right here. But we should also be clear that the Epstein class that the Clintons are a part of are also quite interested in this ass covering here.
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Brian
There was a truce in 2016. It was clear as day. Because again, the Lolita Express trips that Bill Clinton made were a huge problem in 2008, the amount of time that Trump spent with Epstein, both at Mar a Lago and at pageants, rightfully a huge scandal. There was a clearly a truce that neither side really wanted to go there. And this sort of moment here where Trump's tape came out, so then he starts pulling on that lever and inviting those women, that was as close as it got to breaking open. But I will say there is an email which I was interested to see where they're reacting to the victory of Trump in 2016 and someone says, no one expected this, but you must be happy, Jeffrey, which is an interesting reaction.
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Emma Viglund
But exactly right. You must be happy, Jeffrey, because we should. Jeffrey probably preferred Donald Trump because he might have had a little bit more information on him. I would also say that if you believe like I do, that he was quite embedded with a variety of different, like intelligence agencies, but Israeli intelligence, that they were very much in favor of Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government wanted him to win that race. And it also would make sense if you look at some of the emails between Jeffrey Epstein and the founder of 4chan. 4chan is where QAnon originated before eventually going to a Chan. And Steve Bannon has quite a history of, of basically believing that the lonely online mail on forums like this could be a powerful political force. And he is behind galvanizing that energy into the alt right, which was quite obsessed with the QAnon conspiracy theory. So as I keep repeating on this show, the fact that Epstein had these 4chan connections, as well as Steve Bannon regularly corresponding with him around the time of this election, it clearly feels like a right wing psychological operation to deflect attention from Epstein's relationship with Donald Trump, putting it on to Bill Clinton. And they were effective in doing that because of the truce that you're talking about here because they outsourced it to the online. Right.
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Brian
And let's be clear, like, while I do believe the accusations that Bill Clinton is a violent predator himself, Trump is not just accused of words about saying things. There are plenty of women who have accused him of forcing himself upon them. They're the same thing. That's actually what he likes about Bill Clinton.
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Emma Viglund
Yeah, exactly. Right now let's turn to another part of this interview. So right now the Trump administration is trying to put a fresh coat of paint on their occupation of Minnesota by ice, by dhs. They want to put a fresh coat of paint on this because they're trying to stave off calls from the public, the anger from the public for major reforms for the agency. Now, we need to abolish ice, but we don't have the majority right now, the Democrats, and there's not a Democrat in the White House. So that's not going to happen until those other, until the Democrats can take power. And even then we don't know because we're about to play some quick clips from Jeffries and Schumer. But this morning Homan announced basically that they're recalling 700 federal officers from Minnesota. Thousands still remain deployed there, dwarfing the police force in Minnesota. And Trump's keeping their presence there because they're still trying to leverage Tim Walls and the Democratic Party officials in Minnesota to get local police departments to cooperate with ice. They're still making demands as they're pretending that they're, like, very solemnly upset about their killings of Renee Goode and Preddy and that they're gonna change some things. And by God, we'll do body cameras if you ask that of us. They're still engaging in shakedowns, trying to make their ICE operations more effective. It should be noted also that the fact that local police, when local police isn't collaborating with ICE that they so desperately want, that it shows that that can be a real form of resistance. If you have good leadership from the Democrats on the gubernatorial front to direct the police departments in their state not to do so. If they want it so badly, why is that the case? It's because it actually does hamper them.
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Brian
It's appeasement with a fascist occupation of your city. And the idea that ICE and Kristi Noem can tell Susan Collins up in Maine that, okay, we're not going to do an invasion of your state because we don't want to hurt your election chances should be everything that Democrats need to repeat over and over again to say that this is a political invasion by armed, like, drunk Nazis.
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Emma Viglund
And this is Trump's tone now, quite different than a few weeks ago and quite different from Bovino, from Nome, certainly from Stephen Miller. Here he is in that NBC interview.
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Dan Friedman
So I want to be clear, because it sounds like there is a shift in immigration enforcement here, that there's going to be a shift after Minneapolis. What should Americans expect going forward?
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Matt
Well, one thing I say to my people, you know, we do a good job. We don't get credit for it. I say they have to ask and they have to say please. When a city is going, who has to ask and who has to say please? For the governor, I don't want to go and force ourselves into a city, even if their numbers are terrible. Like, for instance, I got a call from Jeff Landry, governor of Louisiana. He said, we have a big problem. Could you go in and help us with, well, let's see, certain sections, I mean, to be honest with you, certain sections of the state, beyond their famous beautiful city, certain sections of the state, we have done not only in New Orleans, we've done a really great job in Louisiana. But I was called, I want to be called Chicago. We could solve the Chicago crime.
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Dan Friedman
Well, on that question, which cities are.
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Brian
You headed to next?
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Matt
We have five cities that we're looking at very strongly, but we want to be invited. We will sometimes call the governors. Are they cities like Chicago, Philadelphia? Are these the cities we could straighten out the crime in Chicago. We've already brought it down 25% just by being there. We could have Chicago be a safe city, just like DC Is a safe city, just like all of these places that we've gone to. And I look forward. You know, I didn't campaign on that. I campaigned on law and order. But I didn't think I'd be going into individual cities and making them say anything else.
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Emma Viglund
You can tell us about the five cities. The five cities, but that's a shift in tone, if you ask us. We'll come in. He's seen some numbers. He's seen some numbers. And what that should indicate to a competent opposition party is that he's on his back foot. Also, the body camera like concession. They're on their back foot. Also the Todd Blanche saying that the Department of Justice is going to investigate the Preddy killing. And if they violated his rights, they're on the back foot. The fact that they're replacing Bovino with Homan and drawing down at least a fraction of the agents that are in Minneapolis means that they're on their back foot. So this morning I get into the office, I'm reading our news packet, and the headline in HuffPost is, Democrats soften their demand to ban masks for ice. Here's Hakeem Jeffries yesterday at a press conference should follow.
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Brandon
Certainly, I think there's agreement that no mass.
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Dan Friedman
Should be deployed in an arbitrary.
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Brandon
And capricious fashion, as has been the case, horrifying the American people.
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Dan Friedman
And of course, I think the American people.
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Brian
Arbitrary and capricious. No, it's menacing. It's intentionally menacing because they are like telling you, hey, I'm quoting one now, if you raise your voice, I'll erase your voice.
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Emma Viglund
How do you deploy masks in an arbitrary and capricious fashion? What? Like, you know, you just, you say, hey, ICE agents in between you sniffing coke and drinking, can you go into this bin and pick out a bunch of masks? That's so arbitrary. And then what's the capricious piece of it?
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Brian
If I rob a bank and I'm wearing a mask, it's not because for arbitrary or capricious reason. I'm not being capricious.
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Emma Viglund
We might get some clarity from this clip of Chuck Schumer, though. He went on Morning Joe this morning to expand upon this new capitulation. This. You're going to hear him basically engage in some sort of hypothetical. And it's a hypothetical. That is so fanciful and it weakens his position.
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Brian
Oh, perfect.
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Emma Viglund
Great.
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Brian
Guess what the doctor ordered.
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Caller or Guest
Maybe most important, no secret police. These guys go around, these people go around with masks. It makes them more brutal. They're never accountable. No one even knows who they are. There should be no masks except in the most of unusual circumstances. You know, some guy's picture was put up by a terrorist group or something. But there should be no masks. There should be no, there should be cameras. Everyone should have cameras. And there should be rules on how they use them. And they have to have regular uniforms, not all the stuff they're wearing. But we cannot have secret police and we cannot, you know. Johnson, can you pause it?
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Emma Viglund
Okay, so those demands are. Two of them are about their outfits. I'm the fashion police. And then the other one's about body cameras, which we've already trash shown how a lot of surveillance technology, a lot of police departments, a lot of national security people actually think they're a net benefit for their ends because they have the ability to record every interaction. The cops who shot their facial recognition.
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Brian
The cops who shot Preddy had body cameras on. That hasn't been released because it's not good for them.
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Emma Viglund
I mean, there have been endless angles of these murders. They've been endless angles. It has had. It has done nothing.
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Brian
I mean, it's good that people film the cops, but when they film themselves, there's no. We don't control these people. So like you can't compel release of it. You know, what it's going to do is give them pirate light reel footage for when they want to put a DHS Bukele El Salvador type highlight reel out and say, look at all the predators that the Democrats that we've captured that Democrats don't want us to. It's absurd.
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Emma Viglund
So he's literally using. Do you remember back in the day when the Republicans were trying to justify their use of torture during the war on terror? And you'd have to have these inane conversations. I was a teenager, I was having a little bit of these debating people about, like if you had a bomb, what if you had a bomb that could go off and you had just had to torture a Muslim person to know where that information was. Sam Harris, like in 24, right? It was the 24, 24 ification of our frickin politics. He's doing that in 2026 about masks. And that hypothetical is even weaker. Oh, if a terrorist puts up a picture of an ICE agent, maybe they can wear Masks like a pro Palestine group, Chuck. Well, so I mean, and I there's honestly more to that insanity than like meets the eye. And of course, it's, you know, Chuck Schumer being a horrible leader that is not able to meet the moment. I want to give credit to Delia Ramirez, the representative who's, you know, one of our more progressive members who went on the record, as a lot of people are not willing to do to Axios today or yesterday and said, quote, I'm going to continue to tell you that Schumer needs to get the hell out over and over and over until he does, she told Axios, he continues to demonstrate to us that he can't meet the moment. And another, a weaker Democrat who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the main feeling among the members is a lack of trust in his strength and ability to strike a hard bargain. But credit to Ramirez, who said it on record, there needs to be more of that.
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Brian
The things about his. It's not his ability to drive a hard bargain. He drives a. Certainly drives a hard bargain when it comes to Iran or something like that. He is not with us. He is against us.
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Emma Viglund
It's just like I can't. What extraordinary circumstance would necessitate the Gestapo being masked?
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Brian
A terror group puts a picture of a guy.
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Emma Viglund
Well, that's the part that I just want to make sure we touch on as or looking at the deeper rot here. The idea that ICE is earnestly engaging in anti terrorism is a lie. It's a farce. And it tells you everything you really need to know about Schumer's ideology. Schumer backed the invasion of Iraq. DHS and ICE came out of the war on terror. It restructured immigration and put it under the auspices of national security. And that's how it functioned. And since that point, it's been sometimes gradual, it's been sometimes accelerated. But our immigration system has been enveloped in the infrastructure of counterterrorism and counterterrorism as we've seen and how we treat people across the globe and Guantanamo Bay and the mass surveillance of American citizens after the war on terror. It's where civil liberties go to die. It makes it. They act like they're law enforcement. As Sam keeps making this point. They are not under the auspices of the Department of Justice. They are in the terrorism infrastructure. So that means a racially motivated surveillance. We did that to Muslim people. That's the canary in the coal mine after 9, 11. And now it's just expanded broadly with contracts of Palantir and what have you in the Epstein, as Peter Thiel's in the Epstein files, this roving surveillance, the militarization of our police since 9 11, where you had something like over 60% of law enforcement and police departments across the country got all of this free equipment from the war on terror because the Department of Defense did all of these cushy contracts with defense contractors and all of that, and they took our taxpayer money and handed it over to their buddies. Oh, we have all this excess equipment. Let's give it to the police. The fact that it's outside of the judiciary and it's outside of the Department of Justice should ring alarm bells for anybody who's in the opposition party. And Chuck Schumer treats that construction of this agency as something that is legitimate and that should be protected. And it's because he's corrupted. And that's where Zionism and the Israel Lobby have a deep connection to the war on terror, to the militarization of our society, to the mass surveillance, and to the brutalization of people on their streets. Because Israel is our aircraft carrier in the Middle East. Israel is an outgrowth of American imperialism. And the more connected you are to the Israel Lobby, the more connected you are to those systems that I just described.
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Brian
Zionism is a type of fascism, and what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Chuck Schumer can't really object to ICE because he doesn't object to what's going on in the west bank in any serious manner.
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Emma Viglund
There's a reason that Netanyahu was on record saying, quote, it's very good after 9 11. It's because he knew exactly what this would create.
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Brian
America just do the exact same thing that Israel's doing in its region. The Iron Wall is Avishleim, one of the best books you can read on the subject of Israel, the way it's treated its neighbors. Abishlam is Iron Wall. Our political system has been controlled by the people with the exact same mindset. That includes everyone from Schumer, but over to Peter Thiel, to the Christian nationalists. We're just trying to do that now in preparation for not doing anything about climate change. Plundering, letting our billionaires plunder the entire world. We're just creating a big giant fortress. This is all to protect those people. And we don't have to protect them. We can actually throw them to the wolves.
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Emma Viglund
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Dan Friedman
Thanks for having me.
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Emma Viglund
Of course. So America 250 talk a little bit about this. This was last summer when he had this military parade, this kind of display that was I was getting married that weekend, so I was a little bit out of it actually. But I remember just thinking like, oh my God, what is happening here? This pageantry that he's obsessed with. Tell us a little bit about that.
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Dan Friedman
Yeah. So supposedly that parade was celebrating the 250th anniversary of the United States Army. But as I think everyone knows, it happened to fall on Trump's birthday. And it was pretty clearly he threw himself a parade for his birthday. So this parade was organized by this organization set up by Congress, America A250. America 250 that is supposed to be bipartisan and organized these semi sequentennial events. I could be saying that wrong, but events and acknowledging the 250th anniversary. And it was really kind of taken over by Trump people. And so this like for example, Event Strategies, which organized the January 6th rally in 2021, organized this particular rally and other events for the 250th anniversary. And you had tanks and armored personnel carrier and people, military members dressed up in a garb of colonialists and stuff like that, marching down whatever it was, Constitution Avenue. And one thing we noticed, my co author Amanda Moore and I were there was that there were U.S. uniformed soldiers handing out this, I don't know how to say it, form energy drinks, free drinks. I have to admit I took one for journalism. And there are so form is a sponsor of this event and so they're giving away these drinks. And it appears that that's in violation of Pentagon regulations. They're not supposed to endorse products like that. But they did it. And I think that's illustrative of how these big sponsors are influencing these events or putting their names all over it. And they've become celebrations of. Not in this case, the U.S. army or the 250th anniversary, but Donald Trump and what he wants to have in a big party paid for by these sponsors who get to have stuff like uniform guys handing out their drinks. And I don't think it was very successful, but that's the model for the events we're gonna see this year, like this UFC fight on Trump's birthday at the White House.
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Emma Viglund
And I didn't realize, I guess, that at the time it's quite similar to the ballroom obsession, which has, you know, a lot of corporations that are trying to curry favor with Trump giving their money to this effort. You had Palantir, Oracle, Coinbase that were a part of this America 250 celebration. I mean, how embedded were some of these corporations in that display?
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Dan Friedman
They are. It's actually a little bit unclear. Trump has set up this organization now Freedom250, which is partly privately funded and also includes taxpayer money. And they have not really told us anything about how much of our money they're going to spend on all this stuff. But it is a combination of these organizations. And some of them are like Amazon is. They're giving money to the ballroom and they're giving money to this Freedom 250. And they are perhaps doing it the way corporate sponsors do, or Walmart, where they don't have a particular ask. But I think, you know, there are a lot of organizations that have really specific stuff that they want. I think. I think whether it's Oracle or Larry Ellison or Son, who's trying to get control of Netflix, you know, you see that corporations that want specific things from Trump and, you know, they funded the inauguration, they funded the ballroom, they're paying for this whatever the next thing he asked them for, and they're trying to get stuff out of the administration. So there's this corruption aspect and then there's this sort of, you know, disgracing of the American history, of the actual purpose of these events, which is to celebrate the ideals of the American Revolution in our country.
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Emma Viglund
Well, I didn't realize how many monuments Trump and I guess historical places in Washington, D.C. that as a part of this effort, he's like, trying to really rewrite American history. I mean, you can talk about this in the context of the Lost Cause. I would not say it's a stretch to say that this administration is quite sympathetic to segregation and to very racist viewpoints. Like the Eisenhower Executive Office Building now has a Ben Shapiro quote, displayed on it, for example.
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Dan Friedman
Yeah, they did something. They set up what they called the Founders Museum. It's supposedly a museum, but it's locked in the executive office building where you and I. Where most Americans can't just show up and visit. But some of it's online and it's these AI generated versions of the Founding fathers. You can watch them, you can go online and find them. And it's a partnership between the White House, essentially, and Prager University.
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Emma Viglund
There you go.
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Dan Friedman
Which puts out like right wing content for various uses. And Prager University is not a university. And so there's Ben Shapiro, excuse me, there's John Adams, and his animatronic mouth moves and he says stuff about the founding of the country for various founders. But in the case of John Adams, he says, facts are not. What is the thing.
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Emma Viglund
Don't care about your feelings.
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Dan Friedman
Yeah, your feelings. And I watched this and I'm sure other people did.
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Emma Viglund
Wait, I'm sorry, the AI John Adams says the Ben Shapiro quote.
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Dan Friedman
Yeah, the AI John Adams says, you know, facts. Don't care about your feelings. And I looked it up and, you know, I said just to check. I was like, wait, that's a bench. And yeah, it's a, it's, you know, it's not John Locke, it's not Thomas Paine, it's Ben Shapiro. So that's the kind of version of American history we're getting.
- [42:26]
Emma Viglund
And I mean, this also pairs with them literally tearing down historical kind of displays about things specific to slavery across the country. Can you speak a little bit about that as well and how that fits into this agenda?
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Dan Friedman
Yeah, and I would just say quickly, I mean, I think like a lot of this connects to 2020, and you had Trump and people who work for him upset about what they perceived as the excesses of Wokeism. And these people wanted to. Somebody wanted to tear down a statue of Abraham Lincoln, whatever it may be. And they're reacting against that. But now they are having, under an executive order that he issued at the beginning of his term, taking down exhibits at Independence hall on slavery in Philadelphia, at Fort Sumter on climate change. And then so that's both Smithsonian and the National Park Service, which has been where they parks have been instructed to take down signs that do anything but celebrate the grandeur of the American landscape or which denigrate American historical figures. So if you take that literally, which some parks have, like, you have a sign about fossils. Why are there fossils here? What about geology? About, you know, not even like, you.
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Emma Viglund
Know, what wolves oh, geology, like, because it bumps up against the creation myth.
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Dan Friedman
You know, it's not even clear, but, you know, they are taking down hundreds of signs around the country. They're taking down signs, you know, like native. The Sioux lived here at this fort in Wyoming. They're taking down signs about that. Not like the Sioux are great in America's bad. Just. Just acknowledgement that Native American people live there, things like that. So this effort that is supposedly upholding American history, protecting statues originally, they're ripping signs out of the ground. They're literally taking down history or signs about history so that we get this sort of sanded down version of American history where everything's great and a bunch of really white men had a series of achievements and everybody was happy.
- [44:43]
Emma Viglund
And it almost feels like there were some successful efforts by anti racist activists to take down Confederate monuments across the country that overlapped a little bit with Trump's first term. But it's not like those were successful in mass. There was resistance in some instances and there were successes in others. But, like, this feels like nationalizing that kind of blowback or a blowback to that and using the federal government to support Confederate retellings of history.
- [45:24]
Dan Friedman
Yeah. One of the events that was organized under the America 250 rubric last year was at Fort Bragg, what is now once again Fort Bragg, which is named after a Confederate general. It's been renamed after supposedly a different guy who's not the Confederate General Bragg. But, you know, there's a series of forts that are named, were named after Confederate generals. They took the name off. And then now the Trump administration has put the name back by finding some guy who had the same last name and saying we're actually naming it after him, but these. And Trump bragged about how he was renaming forts after Confederate generals at this speech. And these events are supposed to be bipartisan. Like, statutorily, this money is only supposed to be used for bipartisan events celebrating the American Revolution, the history of that. And here Trump not only bragged about Confederate soldiers, he attacked residents of Los Angeles. He called Los Angeles a trash heap, he attacked various Democrats, gave his normal speech, crazy speech. And, you know, so it's really unfortunate that there's not any effort to pay attention to what these events are actually supposed to be about.
- [46:39]
Emma Viglund
And the whole hubbub about both the Smithsonian and then also the Kennedy center seems to fit into this as well. I think it's probably easy for us to speak about it as another display of Trump's narcissism, but this still Also fits into his war on history agenda.
- [47:01]
Dan Friedman
Yeah, I mean, we frame it as Trump wants to control all presentation of American history and culture. And, you know, he has this particular obsession with the Kennedy Center. He announced that, you know, the Kennedy center is going to be a centerpiece of the America250 celebrations. He said that last year. And then when he closed the Kennedy center, some people may have missed. He said that the closure of the Kennedy center would take place on July 4th of this year in honor of the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. So it's a little weird to close a cultural, major cultural institution in the United States to honor the United States, but that's what he pretended he was doing.
- [47:44]
Emma Viglund
And so you mentioned the upcoming festivities for July 4th. Is that UFC fight on the White House lawn really still happening?
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Dan Friedman
As far as I know, it's happening. Trump also said that they're going to. He's going to have constructed a stadium that houses 100,000 people somewhere on the White House grounds. I wouldn't.
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Emma Viglund
What. Yeah, he said 100,000 people. 100,000 people. I mean, what's the capacity for MetLife Stadium? I'm just trying to think, like, 80K. I'm just trying to get a sense of, like, where the Giants and Jets play. That's just given a sense of, yeah.
- [48:25]
Dan Friedman
I don't know, the Super Bowl. Yeah, but it's like that. I don't think that's really going to happen, but I think they, they are, they are going to have an event. He also said, you know, recently that there's going to be an IndyCar race, like, around the, the National Mall in August. I don't want to be in DC4. I actually think the IndyCar thing, like, they also said it would be kind of fun in theory. So it's these series of events. They don't have anything to do with the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Increasingly, it's a party. That's what Trump wants to have. And he's using this Freedom250 joint public private fundraising thing to do it without any congressional oversight. We don't know exactly how the money's being spent. So that's, you know, that stinks. It's. It's not, it's not for most Americans. Some people may like it, but a lot of people are left out of this. You know, there's no attention paid, like, not just to slavery, like, none of these events. They don't talk really about black people in the United States. They don't talk about Native Americans, immigration, you know, just anything that they think might be controversial. So it's, it's limited.
- [49:40]
Emma Viglund
Right? I mean, there's, there is, I concern it sounds like, you know, this another Trumpism in many ways, but if this didn't fit in with a broader right wing infrastructure that was already in place to try to rewrite our history. I mean, we've been talking about Prageru on this show since I started here and for many years, and how they had like that has been a way to rewrite history. And it's well funded and it looks professional if you're finding some sort of history video on YouTube. But it's actually misleading people and marginalizing the stories of the struggles of civil rights and non white people and LGBTQ people, et cetera.
- [50:26]
Dan Friedman
Yeah, I mean, it's propaganda. And I think it's just important to point out that this is not, you know, they're doing this on an event that's supposed to celebrate the ideals of, behind the founding of this country, the American Revolution. Freedom, democracy, pluralism. And this is really. And he's doing it with giant posters with his picture on them, you know, that are hanging like from the Labor Department. You know, there's a big picture of him, it says America 250. And while they are assaulting the Constitution, while they are marginalizing Congress, and it is, it is not a celebration of the ideals of the founding of this country. It's really a betrayal of those. And I think that really needs to be emphasized. I mean, he's attempting to act like a king. The American Revolution was to get rid of monarchy. So there's this awful irony to it.
- [51:19]
Emma Viglund
Yeah, that's very true. Lastly, do you see also some of the pageantry around this with the domestic kind of use of the National Guard and also even the troops in the parade and that kind of display as something that fits into his broader agenda of militarism here domestically.
- [51:43]
Dan Friedman
Absolutely. It all seems to be kind of mixed up for him. And you know, he has at times explained the presence, the ongoing presence of the national guard in Washington D.C. as necessary for the America250 celebrations. The parade that they had seemed like a warm up for the invasion of D.C. by the National Guard and feds. And we see this ongoing presence of national guard troops in D.C. which they have said they're sticking around to help celebrate the 250th anniversary of the United States. Which let's bear in mind one of the reasons for the cite in the declaration for the revolution was quartering of troops that citizens didn't want in their cities. So, you know, he's really defying that in, again, an awful way. And it's funny, but it stinks.
- [52:42]
Emma Viglund
Yep. Absolutely.
- [52:43]
Brandon
Right.
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Emma Viglund
Well, really appreciate your time today. Thanks so much. Dan Friedman, you can read the piece Trump's War on History and Mother Jones co authored with Amanda Moore. Thanks for coming on the show.
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Dan Friedman
Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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Emma Viglund
Of course. All right. With that, just a few quick notes and then we will head into the fun half. I just. In case you're watching this and you're In New Jersey 11, make sure you go out and vote today in the primary. It's very odd to have a primary on a Thursday. I can't believe that. But it's pretty important. There's a very crowded field in Mikey Sherrill's old district and Mejia is the candidate that's been endorsed by. What are you guys laughing about? Okay, okay, I put it up.
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Brian
I changed the scene so it looks like Hillary's on. Look at the screen.
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Brandon
Oh.
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Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Oh, shock.
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Emma Viglund
God. Because you'd be in jail. God. Why would I ask Hillary Clinton in an interview?
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Brian
I know what I'd ask.
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Emma Viglund
What?
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Brian
How do you think Jeffrey Epstein's victims felt when they saw pictures of your husband with Jeffrey all the time and saw that he was continuing going on flights with him and maintaining his relationship? Do you think they felt empowered to come forward about being trafficked?
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Emma Viglund
I mean, I, that's. I would say that's a leading question. I would love to. I would really love to ask her about Palestinian history. You know, she's always going on and saying how the students and the kids don't know what the hell they're talking about. And they have no. I wanted to be like, what's your. Do you understand what the nakba is? For example? How would you characterize that?
- [54:33]
Brian
It'd be interesting to say, like, I'll give you seven minutes. Go.
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Emma Viglund
Oh, it would be all Israel, Palestine related, basically.
- [54:40]
Brian
I would love to see how she. No, but I'm saying, like, give Hillary seven minutes just to see what she emphasizes where she starts the story.
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Emma Viglund
Exactly. Because that would be really instructive because they never acknowledge the Nakba or the ethnic cleansing. And if you force them to, they can deny it and then you have your answer. But I always wish that these liberal Zionists could be confronted by an actual piece of history. But she's so quartered off from real challenges at this point. That's a pipe dream. But New Jersey 11 go out and vote today. For the progressive choice in the race, I think it's Analilia Mejia. So it's basically a primary in that race to fill that seat in the special election since Cheryl's the governor. Now, Matt, what's happening on Left Reckoning?
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Matt
But let's get onto another subject.
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Emma Viglund
Let's do it. And with the Jacobin show.
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Brian
Yeah, there's gonna be a new Jacobin show tomorrow, including independent socialist Robin Wansley up in Minneapolis talking about what needs to be done, including an eviction moratorium. And it's great to hear from politicians in Minnesota that aren't, you know. And yeah, Left Reckoning. There's a Sunday show for Left reckoning patrons. Patreon.com LeftReckoning I'll probably get into an interesting Kimball Musk interview that we won't get into here. Check that out. Patreon.com leftreckoning.
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Emma Viglund
We don't. We have Brandon shortly. See, he's watching the show. He knows that we kind of ended on time today. Hey, Brandon.
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Brian
Hey.
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Brandon
I was watching the show and I.
- [56:21]
Brian
Kind of threw up.
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Emma Viglund
What did you say?
- [56:25]
Brandon
I said I was watching the show and I was surprised that you ended on time today.
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Emma Viglund
I had to run from my one guest. Makes it a little bit easier to stay on track. What's happening on the Discourse?
- [56:35]
Brandon
Oh, I mean, you know, it's so hard to say because we're always up to so much. We have a real packed schedule on our morning tete a tete. So I don't know, I don't know what we're gonna do to actually today. And there'll be a clip about this later. We heard the latest spin on the Jeffrey Epstein files coming out, which is that Russia did it. Yeah, that Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was an agent for the Kremlin.
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Emma Viglund
That's what they're running with. I saw on Morning Joe. I mean, he was, he had some connections to Russians, but like we're, it's.
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Brian
Like, but I think those connections were also kind of related to connections he had with Israel.
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Emma Viglund
Isra. Like, it's just like amazing that they're, that, that, that I saw Morning Joe is trying to touch on, like foreign connections to Epstein and they're deliberately avoiding the first story.
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Brian
The first one I saw was like Poland saying it. And it's like, look, Poland has some reason, first of all. Like, I don't know if I'd necessarily want them to lead to the anti Israel thing anyway, given the history of that country. But also, you know, Russia's a little bit close there, but The New York Post running with that. Yeah, Epstein was. Yeah, sure, man. It was about Putin.
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Emma Viglund
Right, okay. I mean, that says everything.
- [57:47]
Brandon
I don't think it's a good excuse because it doesn't dispute the underlying accusations. It just tries to contextualize them for like the, you know, average jingoistic American that's like, don't think about it anymore because you're working for like the Soviet Union. If you like call the president a.
- [58:01]
Emma Viglund
Nonce or whatever right they need. It's like the Cold War jingoism. It was like, it's like a sleeper cell with Republicans right now. I mean, they have to wake it up because they've been saying Russiagate for 10 years and now it's like, we got to avoid the Israel stuff. Let's bring it back. You boomers that hate Russians so.
- [58:21]
Brian
Well the first time.
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Brandon
Well, I mean, he'll be, he'll be Chinese by the end of the week and the right wing, he'll like, he'll be, he'll be a member of the Chinese Communist Party.
- [58:33]
Emma Viglund
Chinese Communist Party. Jeffrey Epstein.
- [58:36]
Brian
China doesn't make a class of people like Jeffrey Epstein.
- [58:40]
Emma Viglund
I don't think I feel like. But it is interesting. I mean, how, who, what countries he was associated with and which countries he wasn't. And it's very much if you were to look at the rules based international order Post World War II and like the west, that is where Jeffrey Epstein's connections were and that's what his, like he had some involvement, I think in dealing arms and other things. But it was, it was always at the behest of like the West.
- [59:09]
Brian
He told Israel to do Palantir and then they started doing Palantir.
- [59:13]
Brandon
Oh, yeah.
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Emma Viglund
Well, we'll play that in the fun half because we still haven't gotten to that for some reason. It's an incredible clip of.
- [59:20]
Brandon
Yeah, yeah, I will say, I will say people tell me it's hard to find my show. So I want to just really emphasize for all of you who are watching that it's both in the description and I'm going to say it right now if you're interested in that sort of thing. Also, whether or not it was all done by robots or AI, you should come over to the Discourse with Brandon on YouTube or Twitch, 8:00am, 9:00am to 12:00pm Eastern. So yeah, you know, join up there. We hit 15,000 last week. We're already up to like 15 and a half thousand as of today. So, you know, the Brandon came keeps. The Brandon train keeps chugging along.
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Emma Viglund
All right. We will head into the fun half. Vendor should join us soon. As always, join themjorityreport.com Please, if you can become a member. That would be so phenomenal. Helps us stay resilient in times where there's rampant censorship by the White House and other, you know, tech organizations that are associated with them. So join the majority.
- [60:25]
Brian
Oh, yeah, by the way, Jeff Bezos just completely trashed the Washington Post, so. He also owns Twitch, so at least for now, we do appreciate the subs on that website. Let's. But if you're on anything or join the MajorityReport.com any way you can figure out how to support us. And also journalists, like, you know. Yeah, substack independent journalists, but also these major organizations. The Tao Drop site. Of course.
- [60:54]
Emma Viglund
The nation. Right.
- [60:55]
Brian
Nation. Yeah. Like it is. And look, it's not going to be. We're not going to get out of this by individual consumption and donation choices. But. But it can help because it is really dire out there. It is not just Elon Musk or the CBS stuff. The entirety of our ability to know is owned by capitalists. And they don't want us to know shit because actually, they're the problem right now.
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Emma Viglund
100%. See you in the fun half. Okay, Emma, please. Well, I just. I feel that my voice is sorely lacking on the Majority report. Wait, look, Sam is unpopular.
- [61:32]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
I do deserve a vacation at Disney World, so. Ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome Emma to the show.
- [61:38]
Emma Viglund
It is Thursday.
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Brian
I think you need to improve it for Sam.
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Caller or Guest
Yes, boys.
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Emma Viglund
I'm.
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Dan Friedman
I'm.
- [61:43]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
I'm going to pause you right there.
- [61:45]
Brian
Wait, what?
- [61:45]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
You can't encourage Emma to live like this.
- [61:48]
Dan Friedman
And I'll tell you why.
- [61:50]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Someone offered a tour. Sushi and poker with boys. Tour, sushi and poker. Who was offered a tour?
- [61:58]
Emma Viglund
Yeah.
- [61:58]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Sushi and poker with the boys.
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Caller or Guest
What?
- [62:01]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Twerk, sushi and pokerman.
- [62:03]
Emma Viglund
Tim's upset.
- [62:04]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Twerk, sushi and poker with the boys was offered with twerp sushi. And that's what we call biz. Twerk, sushi and poker with three boys.
- [62:14]
Emma Viglund
Right.
- [62:14]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Twerk, sushi and we're going to get demonetized. I just think that what you did to Tim pool was mean free speech.
- [62:23]
Caller or Guest
That's not what we're about here.
- [62:24]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Look at how sad he's become now. You shouldn't even talk about him. I think you're responsible.
- [62:29]
Emma Viglund
I probably am in a certain way. But let's get to the meltdown here.
- [62:34]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Sushi and poker with the boys.
- [62:36]
Caller or Guest
Oh, my God.
- [62:37]
Matt
Wow.
- [62:38]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Sushi I'm sorry. I'm losing my mind. Someone's offered a twerk.
- [62:41]
Emma Viglund
Yeah.
- [62:41]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Sushi and poker with the boys.
- [62:43]
Matt
Logic.
- [62:44]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Twerk. Sushi and poker with boys. Boy twerk. I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a kid. Twerk. I think I'm like a little kid. I think I'm like a little kid. Add this debate 7,000 times.
- [62:55]
Dan Friedman
A little kid.
- [62:55]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Think I'm like a little kid. Little kid. Think I'm like a dude.
- [62:58]
Emma Viglund
Twerk.
- [62:58]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
I'm losing my mind.
- [62:59]
Matt
Some people just don't understand.
- [63:01]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
So I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but, like, I absolutely think the US should be providing me with a wife and kids.
- [63:09]
Emma Viglund
That's not what we're talking about here. All right?
- [63:13]
Dan Friedman
It's not a fun job. Twerk.
- [63:15]
Caller or Guest
That's a real thing. That's got real thing. Real thing.
- [63:17]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Willie Walker.
- [63:18]
Emma Viglund
Twerk.
- [63:18]
Caller or Guest
That's a real thing. That's real thing. That's a real thing. That's real thing. Real thing. That's a real thing that's offered.
- [63:29]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Wigan has done it again.
- [63:32]
Caller or Guest
That's a real thing. That's poker with the boy.
- [63:34]
Emma Viglund
I think he might be blowing it out Proportion.
- [63:36]
Caller or Guest
Real thing.
- [63:36]
That's boy. That's a real thing. That's poker. Let's go, Joey.
- [63:43]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Sushi and poker.
- [63:45]
Emma Viglund
Take it easy.
- [63:46]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Sushi and poker. Things have really gotten out of hand. Sushi and poker. Sushi. You don't have a clue as to what's going on live YouTube.
- [63:57]
Emma Viglund
Sam has, like, the weight of the.
- [63:59]
Caller or Guest
World on his shoulders.
- [64:00]
Emma Viglund
Sam doesn't want to do this show anymore.
- [64:02]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Anymore.
- [64:03]
Emma Viglund
It was so much easier when the majority report was just you.
- [64:08]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
Let's change the subject. Rangers and Knicks are doing great now.
- [64:11]
Brian
Shut up.
- [64:12]
Emma Viglund
Don't want people saying reckless things on your program.
- [64:14]
Matt
That's one of the most difficult parts about this show.
- [64:17]
Emma Viglund
This is the Pro Killing podcast.
- [64:19]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
I'm thinking maybe it's time we bury the hatchet.
- [64:22]
Emma Viglund
Left his best Violet Twerk.
- [64:24]
Caller or Guest
Don't be foolish and don't tweet at me. And don't the way has cucked. All of these people love it.
- [64:30]
Emma Viglund
That's where my heart is. So I wrote my honors thesis about it. Wrote an honest thesis.
- [64:38]
Matt
I guess I should hand the main.
- [64:40]
Emma Viglund
Mic to you now.
- [64:41]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
You are to the right of the uniform policy.
- [64:43]
Emma Viglund
We already formed Israel. Dude. Are you against that?
- [64:45]
Guest/Co-host (possibly Emma or another guest)
That's a tougher question.
- [64:46]
Matt
I haven't answered to.
- [64:52]
Caller or Guest
Incredible theme song.
- [64:54]
Emma Viglund
Hi, bumbler. Emma Vilan. Absolutely one of my favorite people, actually. Not just in the game, like, period.