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Folks, I've got some good news and some bad news and then when we get to the show it'll be bad news. But also the bad news, at least for the pre roll is daylight savings time happening this Sunday really early. So you set your clocks ahead spring ahead Saturday night. But the good news, you don't have to suffer through a sleep deprived morning. Our farmer friends at Sunset Lake Saba Day have got your backs. With a perfectly timed sale, you can prepare for the upcoming time change with Sunset Lake's highly rated sleep products now 35% off when you check out with the coupon code daylight 26. All one word, daylight 26. They've got products with melatonin that are great for falling asleep and they've got all products with full spectrum products without the melatonin that have Seba N and a micro dose of say great for staying asleep. Friday time just take a little tincture or gummy on an hour before bedtime. Sleep soundly, wake out, wake up without any grogginess. For me my go to has been the Goodnight oil which has the Saba day and the Saba and sometimes if I take a little bit of Tahiti my mind starts spinning too much. And I'll tell you something, it has been absolutely crucial during these past, well really since the beginning of January I guess. But this week it's like it's a constant war between my Goodnight oil and all of the news reports of the war in Iran that have been running through my head. But they have good night tinctures, they have sleep gummies. You will sleep better, you will feel better and you will wake up feeling refreshed. Head over to sunsetlakesabade.com use the code daylight to six. That's one word. Daylight number two. Number six, no spaces. Daylight 26 to save 35% on all their Sabbath Day sleep products. Sale ends March 9th at 11:59pm See their site for additional terms and conditions. And now for the rest of the bad news. The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. Where every day casual Friday. That means Monday is casual. Monday, Tuesday casual Tuesday, Wednesday casual casual hump day. Thursday casual thirst, that's what we call it. And Friday casual Shabbat. The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Friday, March 6, 2026. My name is Sam Cedar. This is the five time award winning Majority Report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, usa. On the program today, national correspondent for the Nation magazine Jeet here is here with us this week. Also on the program, Ben Palmer, comedian, known online as Palmer trolls. Stuff is great. You're gonna enjoy that. Meanwhile, Republican controlled House votes down war powers resolution as the war escalates. Kristi Noem rides off into the sunset as Trump sends her across the Rainbow Bridge.
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Yeehaw.
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More time with their dog. US loses 92,000 jobs in February. Manufacturing jobs hitting a all time low since the pandemic. US admits it's likely that the US killed over 100 schoolgirls in Iran. That of course we knew days ago. Justice Department publishes some of the missing Epstein files. Still file fails to publish all of them. Republicans in the House now floating a second reconciliation bill to fund the Iran war. 24 states sue over Trump's tariffs in wake of trade court ordering the Trump administration to start the other tariff refund process. Republican Congressman Tony Gonzalez drops out of re election over her his affair scandal. This in Texas 23rd and the record record number of Americans raiding their 401k plans early. All this and more on today's Majority Report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
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It is Casual Friday.
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Casual Friday and I suspect says Emma Vigeland, of course, I suspect this is going to be the final Friday of the year where I am wearing a long sleeve casual Friday shirt.
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I think that the first week of March making that kind of declarative statement is almost reckless.
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Well, I'm in charge of it so I can manipulate the poly market. Matt found out it's bad.
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Well, I mean, well, you know, you're trying to throw people off the scent because obviously you control the weather. So when you can place a bet on it still being cold next week.
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No, I don't control the weather, but I do control what.
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What is a joke about anti Semitism. Okay.
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Oh, oh, oh, sorry, I didn't catch on that. Arcane. Yeah, you really went around. That was a long way to get.
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I was a little uncomfortable as I said it, so I didn't my full chest behind it, but I tried. I'm looking forward to the show today because as I was saying before, I usually do when I do my hot yoga, which I've been really on this year. And it relaxes me, it calms my heart rate. I usually do it in the afternoon. I did it this morning before the show. So I'm in a great mood and it's about to get ruined as we talk about the war crimes.
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I wouldn't do that. Yeah, well, I wouldn't do it that way.
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Time for my heart rate to raise.
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Yeah, there you go. And this Coming after made a huge demand for more light bulbs in the office.
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Things are really a light bulb went out and yeah, I might be.
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We had to have a meeting about it.
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You might need a 15 bucks for a three pack of bulbs. Is that going to be all right?
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Managing egos over here.
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Ever since Obama outlawed incandescent light bulbs, it's been a problem.
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Small businesses are Exactly.
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It's a real burden on small business. All this red tape about the light bulbs. All right, let's get into this. Stephen Miller has crawled out of his spider hole now that he got Kristi Noem fired for. Well, somebody had to pay for how badly things have been going on the DHS front and they decided it would be Kristi Noem. But Stephen Miller, now it's safe for him to come out of his bunker. And he was on Fox News trying to sell this military campaign which we'll talk to Jeet here about this. It's a war. I mean, we are carpet bombing Tehran. We have given warning, warning apparently to the city of Coombs. Is it where the Iranian guard is stationed. And it's also, I think a fairly religious city and there is some type of target there, apparently. We're going to be talking more with Jeet about this, but they the Republicans or I should say the Trump administration and really, I mean, Lindsey Graham was doing this yesterday as well or two days ago ago. They are headed to their sort of like their last stand in many respects. They're having to go back to the basics in selling this war. They don't seem to be able to find any justification for why we're doing it. But they're relying on some of their greatest hits. Here is Stephen Miller explaining that we needed to have this war so that we could show how not woke our military is.
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Oh, weapons.
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But what you're seeing right now, Sean, is a military under President Trump's leadership that's not fighting politically correct. That isn't fighting with its hands tied behind its back. One of the reasons I fear, Sean, that some people in this country lost faith in the military and the capacity
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to use that military to defend us
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is because we had a woke Pentagon because we had a military who at the very highest levels, not the war fighters, was forced to fight a less than full fight. What you're seeing now, I mean, this is in many respects, you could have heard George W. Bush saying this or Dick Cheney saying this about our prison guards in, in Afghanistan or in Iraq. I mean, this is Guantanamo. Yes. Or Guantanamo for that matter. You know, we're no longer doing this woke non torture thing.
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Stephen Miller in high school was recorded speaking about how torture is like a beautiful display of the human spirit, celebration
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of life, because otherwise you'd kill people.
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And we're going to play Pete Hegseth in just a second. But Hegseth made his in Republican circles by defending war criminals in saying that their charges should be overturned after they committed massacres in Iraq. So this is the ideological consistency here of this administration is abject cruelty to immigrants and war crimes against people in the Middle east. And I guess beyond.
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Yeah. And Hegseth is also going to make this clear. Nuremberg was too politically correct and too woke the Geneva Conventions. Those are for ladies, right? Real men don't follow the Geneva Conventions. Who would be saying that at Nuremberg? The Nazis? I guess so.
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Well, at least we're not asking about pronouns before we kill children. I guess it doesn't matter that they were girls. The 160 plus that we killed. That's why it's not woke anymore.
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We should also say that we blew up a boat that was coming back
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from
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an invite that they had from the government of India. An Iranian boat that was there doing some type of exercise that the US Was going to participate in.
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It's a training exercise.
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And not only did we blow up the boat, but we failed. I read some Twitter thread where somebody was looking on the last time that something like this happened with a submarine. And it has been a while, but they stumbled across that the Nazis and the Japanese would rescue people in the water. Now we've seen our military fire upon people in the Caribbean who didn't die when their boat was blown up. But we're. We're no longer those namby pambies. Here's Pete Hegseth Defense Forces. And we have no shortage of authorities. The admiral knows we have clear objectives with maximum authorities on the battlefield. The dumb politically correct wars of the past were the opposite of what we're doing here. They had vague objectives with restrictive minimalist rules of engagement. I remember. I mean, I'm old enough that while I was too young to really be fully conscious of what was happening during Vietnam. Just remember how a namby pamby we were with that napalm and rules of engagement and there. And that worked out quite well for us, as you know, the Zippo squads
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just lighting villages on fire.
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And every time he looks down, Pete
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Hegseth writes all of his speeches through ChatGPT.
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It seems to be that case. Yeah. Speaking of Vietnam, I saw some comparisons of the bombing of that school to the My Lai massacre. And so I guess. And was it woke when we were torturing people in Abu Ghraib? I don't understand what he's referring. Well, I guess he would say that. He would say that.
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What's that you pointed out to me? I asked that same question to Sam, and he said it was woke because one of the torturers was a lady.
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Yeah, I mean, we were letting.
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That's a good point.
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Lindy England.
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They would have gotten the information out of them. She wasn't so emotional.
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The point being, it's like, you know, you've got to. You want the most expert torturer not having this thing where you got to have quotas for women also to be torturers there. Continue. The past were the opposite of what we're doing here. They had vague objectives with restrictive, minimalist rules of engagement. No more. Our authorities, his authorities, centcom's authorities, through the President and myself, are maxed out. Our capabilities are overwhelming and gathering still, as are those of our Israeli partners. Our munitions are full up, and our will is ironclad, which means our timeline is ours and ours alone to control as long as it takes to ensure the United States of America achieves these objectives. And as we flow more forces and as we flow more capabilities and as our munitions, as we're flying over the top, have even more devastating effects, we set the tempo. We set the timeline led by the commander on the ground. Our ear is to the ground to listen to Admiral Cooper. What he needs and what he needs, he will get. Sure what we are built for this fight.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that was over. But just wrap it up. We can finish the.
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What are the objectives here?
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Well, also still clear. They're lying. He's lying about the capacity of the United States. We know that we are running low on. On munitions. We're running low on interceptors, we're running low on missiles because we've overextended our supply and because of the war in Ukraine. So he's projecting a strength that is not matching the reality on the ground. We know that some Iranian missiles have broken through the Iron Dome. We don't know the full impact of it, but what I think Iran is also doing, and this is perhaps a strategy that is borne out by the fact that they know that it's disproportionate. The amount of air power and firepower the US And Israel have versus them is they are bombing and targeting. I think these Gulf states that are in the pocket of the US that are working closely with the United States and with Trump and having these crony corrupt deals because they know that they can penetrate more. And that puts pressure on the United States too, given our relationship with these other Gulf states. So it's horrible that other people, that, you know, the people are going to bear the brunt of that. But that's Iran's best bet. It seems like this bluff of we
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can fight this forever and our supplies are infinite. Why are you asking Congress for more money for the Pentagon?
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Exactly. The 50 billion supplemental. What's that for then? And just one more point on this before we move on. This is him changing the rules of engagement to say that what America really needs to do is bomb more schools with little girls in it. This is him saying that before we were too woke caring about perhaps children, but with our joint war with Israel that we're very happy to drag America into, despite the fact that like 70 to 80% of the public here in the United States is opposed to it. We're going to actually also adopt Israeli rules of engagement. It seems like targeting schools, targeting hospitals, carpet bombing urban centers. It's the United States of Israel. It's. Israel's an outgrowth of the United States. But. But the reality is that our outposts in the Middle east, the laboratory that Palestine has been means that the US is now foot on the gas using the sadistic genocidal tactics of the Israelis in our warfare. And Hegseth is proud of it.
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He keeps talking about our objectives are clear. I mean, I don't know that anybody could articulate. They can't articulate acknowledgement that we're actually engaged in a war. Yeah, never mind the objectives. All right, just continue and let's let him wrap up here. Whiskey Pete. And what he needs, he will get. We are built for this fight and we are in it to win it. And we have the right commander in the lead. So now. All right, there you go.
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Hey, Chat, can you write me a
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speech in the tone of a fifth grader who loves Metallica and I am in it to win it. We'll talk more with Jeet about the implications of all this in a moment. But I think in the early days of this there was a question is like, are we going to be able to see something where they do this for a couple of days? And that's is becoming increasingly clear that they are having to make up as they go along what the objectives are? And it's almost as if like they're just sliding down a rabbit hole of Donald Trump you know, now he wants to appoint the leader of the country. We'll see where that goes. He let loose the dogs of war and just put him on the chain again. In a moment, we'll be talking to Jeet about these things and more. A couple of words from our sponsors. This episode of the Majority Report is brought to you by. Wild Grain. Wild Grain is the first baked from frozen subscription box for artisanal bread, seasonal pastries and fresh pastas. Unlike many store bought options, Wild Grain uses simple ingredients that you could pronounce in a slow fermentation process that can be easier on your belly, richer in nutrients and antioxidants. There's no preservatives, there's no shortcuts. Plus, all items conveniently bake in 25 minutes or less with no thawing required. Wild Grain boxes are fully customizable. In addition to their variety box, they have a gluten free box, they have a vegan box, and they have a new protein box. I got my box two days ago, Wednesday when I got back from work. Chocolate croissants, regular croissants. I mean, I try and orient it towards salt for the most part. I got some great pasta.
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Well, Netanyahu himself has said this is something he's wanted for 40 years. And Donald Trump is the first American President in those 40 years to, you know, listen to him. So what that basically means is that like Reagan, Bush Sr. And most of it, interestingly, Bush Jr. You know, all got this request to like having a war with Iran. And they all said no, like this is a war, which Even George Bush Jr. Thought was a bad idea.
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Yeah. And we know that at least the initial responses from our secretary of state and the speaker of the House were that, well, we went in because Israel was going to go in and we knew that we would get attacked when Israel went in. So we went in to preempt those attacks or to attack first. Leaving that aside for a moment, it's
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a very weird sort of like argument. Although, I mean, part of me we can go to this later. But like, I almost have this kind of like dark suspicion that basically what they're doing is the Mearsheimer and Walt argument. But Saying, like, it's a good thing. Like, you know, the Israel Lobby is running America and we're okay with that. But, you know, with maybe like an understanding that not all of their coalition is and that this is also going to be a convenient scapegoat if things go wrong. You know, like, well, we want this.
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Yeah, it is. Netanyahu, extremely evil, but not an idiot. It's been Citizens United was 2010, okay, dark money explosion. Since then, AIPAC's lobby has increased in its significance power. The Israel lobby has now the Senate minority leader in Chuck Schumer is a Zionist. Chuck Schumer became the leader of the Democrats in the Senate in 2016 after the Iran deal with Obama. They like, you know, escalated their efforts in Congress. You have Hakeem Jeffries, who's beholden to the Israel Lobby, and then of course the entire Republican Party and then at the same time, so like the financial power here domestically corrupting our Congress is there. And that might be at a fever pitch given what we're seeing in the Democratic primary. So Netanyahu sees that. He sees that Republicans look like they're in bad shape in the midterms. So there's a basically nine month period where this war can happen and that. So like he's effectively neutered the opposition party in this country on that front or corrupted them. And he also has a really good read on Trump's emotionality and saw that he was essentially riding this high from Venezuela, where they considered that operation a total success and was able to sell him on him being able to do the same thing in Iran, which we know is entirely different. So, so those are, I think, like the three confluences of factors, like the AIPAC now being a political liability, but them still having a lot of money invested in the current members of Congress, the midterms coming up, which could change that dynamic. And then also Trump's psychology, which Netanyahu has been very effective at appealing to.
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Yeah, I mean, I would add to that like sort of the sense of the clock is running out. I mean, like, you know, Democratic Party voters, you know, like APAC did actually win a few victories, but it was like really close. Like they, you know, they got a 49, 48 victory from someone who had to disavow AIPAC in a recent primary and they've been losing primaries. And on the Democratic side and on the Republican side, I'll just say, like the three most popular figures on social media among young Republicans are Nick Fuentes, Keita Zoan and Tucker Carlson. Right. Like, you know, if you're Benjamin Netanyahu, you know, who grew up in America, you know, like, you know, speaks, like, perfect American English, because he's, like, has his background. Like, he knows which way the wind is blowing. This is his last chance to, like, maximize out. And he's. But, but I mean, just to sort of flesh out what the actual. You know, he's wanted a US Israel war against Iran for a long time, because on the one hand, they see Iran as a kind of major adversary in the region, but also the broader plan which we're seeing enacted throughout the region is to sow chaos and disorder. The idea is that Israel will never be loved in the region. Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing, has committed horrific crimes, like, for decades. It will never win popular support. So the only way Israel can survive in the region is if all possible adversaries are, like, weak, fragmented, chaotic. And so the model is Libya and Syria to do that to Iran. And they also.
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And Lebanon.
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And Lebanon. Yeah, and Lebanon. Yeah. And also to build out a Greater Israel project, which, you know, like, even the liberal Zionist will not disavow to say, you know, as Mike Huckabee did, that, you know, it's not the river to the sea, it's the Nile to the Euphrates. You know, this is what the ideal Israel is. And they're not. They know they can't get it all at once, but they can certainly expand into Syria, they can expand into Lebanon. So this is really like, almost a desperate bid to. And, you know, I mean, the analogy I would use is, like, apartheid South Africa in the. And white rhodesia in the 70s and 80s, where those countries were constantly launching aggressive wars against their neighbors, knowing the clock was running out, thinking that, you know, this is the one way that they can gain security.
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And so, I mean, you write this piece, Trump and Netanyahu want to turn Iran into a failed state. I mean, let's. Let's play this out. I mean, I, you know, I don't know that Donald Trump has any vision.
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No, no, I know. I. Yeah, yeah, I know. I, I would say he doesn't have any ideas, but he's, like, can be convinced by the last person he talked to. And I do.
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It seems to be very sincere that he wants to choose who the leader is, and that's the, you know, the Venezuela model. And I, I don't think he fully grasps what he's. What he's talking about.
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But Netanyahu, the supreme leader of Iran, which is like a religious position, this is like saying, like, you know, I want to have a spot on the, like, the Council of Cardinals, you know, in the next conclave, I want to
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be the one who's. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to operate the smoke machine, and I'm going to be the one who chooses.
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Yeah, yeah. So, so, but, but, but. Okay, so in terms of sense of what Trump is actually thinking, we can agree that Netanyahu does actually want a failed state. I think Trump is getting a bunch of different noises, and in some ways, I actually think that there's a parallel which I think people haven't drawn out, but I think the way that, with George Bush Jr. Which I think he was sold on the Iraq war because Rumsfeld and Cheney quite cleverly did the sort of quick invasion of Afghanistan, which CIA had been prepared for and which was very easy to have, like, a quick military victory, especially since they basically allowed the bin Laden to, like, run away and escape into Pakistan. So there was going to be no fighting. And then Bush Jr. Saw, oh, wow, this is, you know, war is easy. Everybody said war is hard. You know, like, everybody's. There's parades, everyone's cheering me. And so he's sold on the war in Iraq. And I think something similar has happened here where I think that the people around Trump did the Venezuela campaign quite cleverly, like, you know, taking this kind of decrepit regime where it seems like they had a lot of CIA assets in the government who are, like, willing to sell out Maduro, and Trump got his quick victory. And I think, like, you know, if you're looking at what Trump is, to the extent that we can speculate what's going on in his mind, it does seem like he keeps going back to Venezuela. He keeps thinking, like, you know, where am I going to find my Rodriguez who can, like. An Iranian Rodriguez who can, like, take over for me? And like, it's. It's like, you know, unfortunately, he doesn't understand, and I don't know if the people around him understand, but Iran is a completely different society. It has actually had, like, you know, this revolutionary regime, which in the form of the IRGC, has 150,000 core members, a party cadre which is very well integrated throughout the society. And there are a lot of people in Iran that don't like the government, don't like the irgc. But you're not. It's not a government that you can easily topple or you can easily, like, you know, find a sellout to take over. And then like, I mean, to go back to it, like Trump is going to choose the next ayatollah. Like, is he going to like, like, you know, become a Shiite, go to a religious training? He has to then himself become an ayatollah to join the Council of Advisors. That's how you get to choose the next ayatollah.
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Well, the sun, the ayatollah son, is already kind of in the pole position to take over. And there's already all of this grumbling among the Iranian, Iranian diaspora that like the US Government has trying to, has been trying to push to come in and take over. Like they're trying to Ahmed Chalavi this and it's going to end the same way.
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Well, let's, I think it, I mean, there's potential for it to be in some respects worse because. All right, so you write about Netanyahu wanting a failed state and the idea being that it would, there would be some type of Balkanization in Iran, but. And there would be low level conflicts, maybe civil war. There's an attempt. It's unclear whether the CIA sort of like planted the story that the Kurds were on board with this and they were arming them with the idea that the Iranians would strike the Kurds and then the Kurds would get involved. There was a report that 50 Land Cruisers were purchased, you know, I guess for the revolution or the civil war. I mean, who knows? But we will find out. But the really sort of like dangerous part of this, aside from obviously the random killing for no apparent reason, we are certainly under no threat is the nature of the Iranian government is such that it is decentralized enough. And it is unclear. I don't know if we'll ever know. But there does feel like there is, there has already been a plan that if things get to level one, this is what you do. You start to strike these bases in these various, you know, countries in the Gulf coast, excuse me, the Gulf countries, but there's a level two and like a level three. And at one point you start, maybe I've read people talking about dumping nuclear waste into the Gulf, which would, in fact, we got an email from a listener who is in the, who is in the region, who is a contractor, who has been, you know, at various places and just was giving us some notion of, you know, what our potential. Within three days, he writes, if there is a, if they start dumping nuclear waste into the Gulf, the desalination plants that all of these Gulf nations have would be ruined. And they'd have. Start having massive water shortages within days. And I mean, start, I mean, walk us through some of what you understand could be the implications of this.
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D
Yeah, I mean, Iran has, you know, it's a nation of 93 million people with like, you know, like a hardened military that, you know, like in the 1980s, you know, went up against Saddam Hussein and like, you know, fought a real war and then in, more recently in Iraq, like basically defeated the United States. I mean, it was like Iranian supported militias that were able to like, get America to basically withdraw. So, you know, like, this is like a country that has, you know, like a real military and is, as you said, decentralized. It is not. It's like, I mean, the fantasy that Trump and all these guys have is you, you take out the leader, you take out Mr. Evil and you replace them.
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This is not a strong man government. This is a theocracy that also, I should, we should say the, the, the, the, the Iranian guard is, it has its own sort of like, economy. Like they are, they have control of Iran's industry in a way that, I don't know, certainly is not, certainly not the case in a Latin American country. I don't know where there's something that is analogous to that.
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D
No, no, no, no. I mean, yeah, this is one reason why the American military, including in the days leading up to the war, were always reluctant to go up. Because we don't actually. No, and as you said, they can do a lot of damage. They can. You know, they've already basically stopped oil from coming in. And also, like, you know, like the underbelly, the soft underbelly of the American war effort are the GC nations, the Gulf allies of the US you're talking about the, you know, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait. These are nations where like, you know, 10% of the population are citizens, 90% are guest workers, you know, so, so, so these are warrior nations, right? These are. The top of the nations are led by these like, monarchs, you know, who are born into the position, who are like, used to very cushy life love, going to like, European nightclubs, and also all these like, Europeans who have come over for like, tax havens as well as people from throughout Asia who are like, you know, basically indentured servants. I don't see that societies of that sort are geared towards war. And in fact, what you're already seeing is a lot of people fleeing, right? You're seeing like, you know, people paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to get up out of Dubai because you don't go to Dubai with the idea, you know, I'm going to be committed to this nation and die for it. You go to Dubai because you like a soft, luxurious life.
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Let me quote from this, this email that I got. Americans are okay. The thing that nobody talking about is that there's a huge difference between all the Gulf countries. Americans are looking them as one big Muslim place. It's not like that. In fact, I was telling a friend in Dubai, get the F out because I told him if the shit goes down, Dubai is F'd. This has to do with a security agreement the UAE has with Israel that's played out. And he also writes that one thing that he saw that is different between what's happened over the past couple of days and happened in the 12 Day War was that he said there were a lot of drones being shut down. A shot down, he said. Then he said, now the drones, he said the drones are hitting all over the effing place in the region. That means drones are getting past our navy or we're not really trying to shoot them down. I can't speak to that. But I was here last year and we were shooting down most of the drones before they got anywhere near the jcc, gcc, that's the Gulf Countries Commission. I'd leave work and see ton of contrails in fact in the sky when drones got taken out. But the fact they're mostly firing drones says they've got tons more stuff in pocket. That's another thing that's not mentioned is their nuclear plants. And this is where he goes on to talk about they could just dump some of this nuclear waste into the Gulf.
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D
Absolutely, absolutely. I mean that's an option. The desalinization as you mentioned is an option. And I think that one is hearing a lot from the GCC countries. They're actually quite upset that all the drones are getting through. I think this is partially a function of the fact that Iran actually got a test run in the 12 Day War last year. And what we found in that war was the longer the war progressed, the better Iranians were getting at like getting their missiles through and getting their drones through. And this is actually what we found within Ukraine as well. Like unfortunately drones are democratizing war. They are actually like giving an advantage. And there's you know, like the ability of America and its allies to resist these things is not what we would like. And also, and this is going to affect the long term coalition. But you know, the GCC countries feel like, you know, America is giving all its protections to Israel. It is like using the interceptors to defend Israel and that they are bearing the brunt of this war. So Israel launches war for itself. The GCC countries were not on board with us and that they are like, you know, suffering for a war that America and Israel wanted.
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A
One point to add to that, we have, I don't know what percentage, but significant. 30% less State Department officials.
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D
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And so the ability of this to be communicated through channels that register the level of alarm and problems, etc. Etc. It's not there, you know, like, there's no, there's no process in which to sort of communicate what needs to be done for these countries. And it really has a feel of like they just went in and thought, we're going to wrap this up in a couple of days and it's not
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D
going to be a problem because Trump had the Venezuela model in his mind. He had this idea that's gonna be like a quick hit. We'll take out the bad guy, put in our own person, and it's all gonna go well. And like, you know, like anyone. And then the Pentagon apparently told them, like, no, sir, this is like a high risk gamble because of all the things that could go wrong in terms of like, like the lack of personnel there. I mean, there's two aspects of this. One is the US Actually like put out an statement to say Americans in the Middle east in like 16 different countries, you should get the hell out. But they don't have the resources to process like the visas or to help people. And so like it, like, you know, they're telling people like, you know, just take a bus, go into Egypt, maybe you can get an airplane from there. Right? Like, so there's a lot of, there's a lot of Americans in the Middle East. Like your correspondent, you know, there's at least a million people there. Like, a lot of them want to get out. And that's a problem. The other problem is like this issue of like, knowledge. And there's actually a really good interview in the New Left Review by this great Iranian American historian, Ivard Abraham Ian, who basically compared this to the Cold War. Like in the early days of the Cold war, because of McCarthyism, you had a purge of the State Department of everyone who knew Chinese. So you had like decades of American foreign policy, of people making China policy, not knowing like, how to even like talk to the Chinese, not knowing anything about Chinese history and like, basically blundering into a series of disastrous wars in Asia. Something comparable has happened now. Like you had like A purge of the State Department and especially the sort of, you know, the right wing Zionist types, they distress what they call the Arabist. That is to say, people who understand the Arabic language and who have like some understanding of the history and are therefore like, you know, like always telling American presidents like, don't do this. This is actually gonna make the people in the region mad. So those people have been purged. And so you have an administration that is really flying blind in the region. And Trump himself thinks he has a handle on it because he has these friends in the region who are the Emirati, the mbs, the kings and whatnot. But that's a real thin slice of the society and there's a lot you're going to miss. And you know, in terms of like, things that could go wrong, I mean, this is certainly like killing the Ayatollah has extenuated the sort of Sunni, Shia rift. And there's a place like Buran, like a majority of the population are Shia. Right. And you have a Sunni minority monarchy that's ruling over them. And what is once one seeing now is like, you know, like when the bombs are hitting American bases there, you're seeing, you know, crowds cheering. And the government there is like saying like, you know, like trying to like arrest people for cheering. It's a real tinderbox. I mean, you really have created, I mean, in terms of all the things that can go wrong. It's not just what the Iranians have planned. Like, there's a lot of things that could go wrong that no one has planned for, because no one. Because once you take a match, you light it and you throw it into like that room full of dynamite, who knows what's going to happen?
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Yeah.
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B
And I'm curious, Jeet, if you think, and this is just my theory, I was talking about this a little earlier. If the is the Iranians understand that like they can get some missiles through the Iron Dome and, and we may not know the full extent as to what that damage is going to be, but they could more judiciously deploy drone attacks into the Gulf attack Gulf states, which, you know, has business relationships with the United States and tourism that is associated with the west. And now they're increasingly trying to diversify their economy by investing in sports and tourism. We can get more bang for damage for our buck.
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D
I mean, I'm sorry, but this is
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B
a way to inflict damage on Western interests without having to use all of your firepower on Israel. And I don't know how, I don't know if Trump if this is going to. But it's like the better bet to impact because they have all these corrupt business relationships together.
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D
Yeah. I mean, in terms of, like, what could actually influence Trump, there's like three or four things, and one of them, unfortunately, is Congress, which is, we know, is not going to do anything. But I think Emma's exactly right that, like, the business interest, I mean, that's where things are going to hurt. You know, one is already seeing, like, I thought, like, you know, oil is going to hit $100 by early next week, but it's like, you know, like it's at 86 now, so I feel like it could come sooner than that. And we know there are people in the White House on the political side who are a bit worried about the oil prices, but also the investment in the Middle East. Like, Trump himself has been toting, like, the trillions of dollars that are coming in, and his own family business, like, has been getting, like, billions of dollars from, like, Saudi Arabia and uae. And now the financial. I don't know if you guys saw this, but the Financial Times had a. I got the.
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A
I got it right here.
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D
Yeah, yeah.
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Officials said three of the four big Gulf economies, Saudi Arabia, uae, Kuwait and Qatar, had jointly discussed the strains being put on their budget and economies, but they declined to name the states. A number of Gulf countries have begun an internal review to determine whether force majeure clauses can be invoked in current contracts, while also reviewing current and future investment commitments in order to alleviate some of the anticipated economic strain from the current war. They're pulling back.
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D
There's another aspect which is that's internal. The other is the external aspect. There's a lot of Asian money that went into Dubai and UAE and like, into all the sort of data centers and stuff that they're building there. And one is already seeing, like, a lot of that money is like, you know, pulling back and going back to Singapore and Hong Kong, partially because they're also feeling a lot of stress and they might feel like they need to bring some of that money home. But, I mean, like, this is like having like, a huge kind of ripple effect on that region. And, you know, like, this, like, American economy especially has very integrated with this. I mean, like, the whole, you know, Paramount deal of, you know, buying out Warner Brothers is like, you know, 20% of that financing is coming from the Middle East. And, like, if. I mean, this is something that I think will have, like, a real ripple effect, but also, like, maybe a longer term ripple effect of, like, everyone, like, deciding like, you know, like, do we actually need the United States? Like, you know, like, you know, like, if you're like one of the GCC countries, you're basically looking at this is a war you do not want that you advised against which Israel launched and Trump went along with, and you're suffering for it. What are you getting out of this alliance? And if you're an Asian country, like South Korea, like, they're having to bring out like, you know, tech and intercepts from South Korea taking into the Middle east, like, you're thinking like, what are we getting out of this American alliance? If you're Taiwan, what are you thinking? Like, you know, like, America's going to, you know, they're supposed to pivot to Asia. They've been promising for like 20 years that they're going to pivot to Asia and they keep getting involved in these wars in the Middle East. So, you know, I think it's going to have like, like long term. I think the question everyone's going to ask is, like, why are we allied with the U.S. the.
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A
I mean, there's a couple of things to note here though, that Asia gets a lot of its, a lot of its specific types of oil from that region, particularly because that's where the refining capacity is. And so that's always been, you know, a big part of the rub, I think, is the reason why we invaded Iraq was, I think, largely a function of making sure that we had control over the spigot that provides maybe at least 20% of Asia's heavy crude that gets refined, et cetera, et cetera. The other thing that's impacting the United States, and this is the other part that just seems to be weird to me that maybe nobody's telling Trump this, but we already have. Like, it's going to severely affect our agriculture because so much of like the nitrogen that we need, you know, for, for fertilizer comes from that goes through that area and comes from that area. We're seeing those prices go up, we're going to see oil go up. I saw somebody tweet that, well, maybe this was a long term play for Trump to get the Fed to drop interest rates more by crushing our economy. But, I mean, this is not going to help with affordability. I mean, there's Trump care. Well, that's the thing, is that there is a feeling here where Trump is like, almost feels like, I mean, honestly,
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B
all of this, though, even Netanyahu, these are older people of the same generation.
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A
They're going to be dead this time. Next year, and they're just like, honestly,
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B
let's achieve what we can. Like, we've always wanted this. 40 years of Iran war. I've been working on the Americans for this long. Like, I'm going to be dead soon, right? Isn't that what this is?
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I sort of feel like they, like, they feel.
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D
That's even Chuck Schumer.
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B
Even Chuck Schumer in the way that he's, like, so supportive of Zionism in spite of, like, it could. It could end his tenure and will, hopefully.
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God, I think he's going to.
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B
Well, he's got to know.
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A
He's a.
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B
If he's a dead man walking, he's doing the same thing. I don't. My career is ending soon and this is what I believe in and I'm going to go for it. I mean, that is what is the boomers. I'm sorry, but they are, like, leading. They're a death cult. These boomers are a death cult.
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D
No, no, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And I think Putin, his decision to invade Ukraine was saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I mean, it's very grim. I don't know. I mean, like, there's that aspect I think Trump himself does. I mean, the fact that he got rid of non Christie, like, he likes to get good headlines. He likes to be seen as a winner. He liked the Venezuela war because it was this, you know, splendid little war that was like. Like a great tv, great theater, you know, like, I think, like, if oil prices are up, if people are grumbling, if he's like, hearing complaints, if they're body bags, if, like, you know, like. And, you know, who knows what. I mean, honestly, I think they're probably, in terms of casualties, some of it's going to be disguised because they're going to use special contractors and they're going to use CIA. And those people don't, like, you know, get counted as casualties. But, like, you know, like, I think that, you know, like, if there are American deaths and already, I mean, like, you know, like, you know, the unemployment rate is already. We're already kind of on the cusp of a recession. Right. I feel like this is the thing that could push things over the edge. And if you're talking about war, that's going to extend. Now they're saying, they said the person is going to be a week and now four weeks. And the Pentagon itself is budgeting till September. Right. So you have a very serious war going on at the midterms time when people are actually going to be voting. People will be voting, most likely when they're still American, when there's still fighting going on in the Middle East.
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B
To bolster your point that we're on the cusp of a recession. I had forgotten about this until you just said it, but there was a news item, Yahoo Finance, I'm reading from here, that Peter Thiel sold $280 million worth of stock recently, 2 million shares. There's been some selling from really, really wealthy billionaires, and you got to wonder if they know what's coming.
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D
Yeah, well, yeah, no, I mean, I think. I mean, even, you know, before all this sort of started, like, it was. I mean, the American stock market's been up, but it hasn't been as up as in Europe and in Asia. And I think there's been a real reluctance to invest in the United States. So, I don't know. I mean, like, I, I think it's a real gamble. And I think even if Trump has a little bit of the death cult in him, but I think maybe he has less of that than Hegsef or than Huckabee or than, than. Than a lot of other people. Like, I actually think, like, you know. Yeah, I, I mean, the one hope that we have is that, like, you know, some of these business partners in the Middle east will, like, you know, say, like, Trump, you know, like, we want to buy those bitcoins from you, but we can't. You know, like, the war is going on too long.
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A
I mean, that's what I like in the back of my head. And maybe it's just sort of aspirational and deluded. I keep thinking, like, somebody from UAE is going to talk to somebody from Oman, and they're just going to be like, okay, here's the deal. We're going to tell. The Iranians will announce that they're going to, with Trump's consultation, you know, they're going to make the Ayatollah's son the new Ayatollah, and Trump signs off on it, and we're going to wrap this thing up. And that's basically it. I mean, otherwise it's. He's been told that, like, this is going to be easy. We're, you know, three months out from basically controlling Iran. I mean, I'm sure that's what, that's what the reporting was telling. I mean, so it really just depends on how quickly the pain is communicated and his sensitivity. I mean, I want to touch on the gnome thing because this is sort of, like, instructive or maybe this is the first firing Really? I mean, there's been one or two nominees pulled before, but that was, you
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B
know, kids, Bovino was fired.
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A
Bovino was fired. But this is the first cabinet secretary.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Who's. Who's been fired or had to resign or whatever it is. And at this point in Trump 1.0, we were on number like eight of the big cabinet names having gone. What, what, what is. Like, was there that much. Was this firing of Nome as much about, like, was it because he started to lose Republicans in that, that hearing. Like, you know, he had Republican senators balking and they were having a tough time selling it back to their constituents. Like, it appears like the politics worked a little bit here when they have not worked in the past. And I think part of it, you know, could be just like, Kristi Noem just didn't know that, like, you can't throw certain people under the bus.
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B
And, and the Wall Street Journal is reporting that he was upset about that $200 million ad buy that was this slush fund for her friend. Now, he doesn care about the corruption piece. He cared that it was too self promotional. That's how the Wall Street.
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A
I didn't get a piece of that,
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B
which means that it was. And we played it yesterday. She's featured quite prominently riding in a slow and slow motion with a cowboy hat through the Great Plains as they talk about rounding up immigrants. And she. He doesn't appear until like, halfway through the Adam. Yeah, I'm sure that's what pissed him off.
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D
Yeah. I have to, like, question, like, the budget of this as well, because, like, you know, people complain about, like, one battle after another, you know, costing $130 million. But you could get two, one battle after another for the cost of this. Like Christy. No. Which would be a much better use of money. No, I think, I think, yeah, she became a little bit too much of a main character, which Trump never likes. But I think we should actually also undersell the politics of this. I mean, like, and especially the fact that the resistance in Minnesota, the fact that you had, like, large numbers of people that, like, made it impossible for ICE to operate and we're like, you know, constantly creating, like, bad television. You know, like, you know, like, you have these images of basically, you know, white Midwestern Americans being killed by these masked goons. I think that was what turned it around. I think, like, politically it's very interesting and, you know, it's going to be instructive like that the one thing that defeated Trump was actual mass organizing largely outside of the Democratic Party. And in some ways against the wishes of the Democratic Party, like, you know, like, I don't think, like Schumer and Jeffries, like, the fact that the ICE protesters were anti ICE protesters were out there and in your face, the way they were, but they were the ones that won. I mean, Minnesota was Trump Stalingrad. Like, this is like, you know, and historically, I mean, one hopes that that's where it's going to be run. It can also turn out to be that Tehran is like a second Stalingrad. You know, like, he, you know, like, once he runs into the limits of his power and realizes there are people he cannot defeat, there are people he cannot break. And, you know, like, yeah, I'm no fan of, like, the Islamic Republic and like, you know, I would hope for a democratic revolution in that country, as in throughout the Middle east. But. And in Israel. But I have to say, like, Trump thinks that he can defeat that nation and, you know, like, he can't. I mean, like, like, and there's, you know, in terms of everything that can go wrong, like, their whole strategy and Israel's strategy is mow the lawn, let's get rid of the leaders, and also bombing from the air. And there's two things that we know. Mow the lawn doesn't work against the genuine mass movement because you can always get another person that rises up. You know, as Frederick Hampton said, you know, you can kill a revolutionary, but you can't kill a revolution. And the other aspect is the bombing, which, you know, like, Robert Pape is a great scholar of this.
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B
We had him on yesterday. We had him on yesterday.
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D
Like, it has never worked in terms of getting regime change or getting a type of government that you want. So it's just like the Trump is going to, is in Minnesota, he ran into the limits of his power through the resistance of the American people. And in Iran, he's going to run into the limits of his power.
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A
Let's hope that he stops running at one point, but we'll see. Jeet here, national affairs correspondent, the Nation, host of the Time of Monsters podcast. Thanks so much, Sheet. Always a pleasure. We'll see you soon. Put links to both.
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D
It's a pleasure to see you guys. Not a great pleasure.
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A
Yes, the circumstances could be a little better.
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B
Yes, thanks, G. Appreciate it.
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A
All right, folks, we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, Ben Palmer. He is a comedian known online as Palmer Trolls. And you will find out why. Largely, I mean, I think he's mostly known for setting up a fake ice Website and fielding phone calls. The tip hotline, which has been really funny. But we'll, we'll take a quick break and then we'll bring Ben on.
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C
Sa.
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It. We are back. Sam Seder, Emma Vigland on the Majority Report. It is a pleasure to welcome to the program Ben Palmer, known online as Palmer Trolls. Ben, welcome to the program. Why Palmer trolls?
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C
I guess that maybe one way to describe some of the things I do. Trolling, I guess. You know, it started a while ago, before I knew what trolling was. I was doing that and then someone told me, hey, by the way, you're trolling. And I was like, okay, well maybe I should just embrace this then.
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A
There you go. What was it? How did you start? Well, we should say like, I mean the videos I have seen, I've actually seen the presentation you're going to give us. It's awesome. But some of the videos that I've seen all center around the fake ice tip line that you put up there. And people call in and then you call back and tell us about this. It's really, really funny and disturbing.
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C
Yeah, yeah, there's been some disturbing calls. People, a lot of revenge, deportation attempts, you know, like exes trying to get back at people. But yeah, they, they think I'm some sort of legitimate person that can help them. And so it doesn't take much to get them to, to talk and, and tell, tell me why and where and who they want to get deported. So there's been some interesting calls. I think one of the most egregious ones was the, the kindergarten teacher who looked into a five year old kindergarten student at her school and wanted to get that kid's parents deported just because she said they looked out of place.
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A
Do you, do they leave their number and you call them back? Is that the way it works?
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C
Okay, yeah. I also have a hotline too.
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B
So they, the one I've seen that might be, I don't know, perhaps the most viral was the woman at, what was it? The Publix.
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C
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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B
Who called and was reporting the woman who helped her find water to ice. And you were like, oh, so she helped you find the water, you were able to get the water and you still want her rounded up, put in the van and driven over the border. And like she, she, they start to feel bad as the call goes on a little bit. But you don't break characters. So it's just, it's brilliant. Amazing stuff.
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C
Yeah, she's like, you know, I just didn't like that she Spoke Spanish and her English wasn't great. I was like, but she did help you find the water, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. She took me right to it. Oh, so now we're just gonna. We're just gonna throw in her a van and take her across the border. She's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. I wasn't saying all that. Yeah, but that's what you're calling to do, though. That's what's gonna happen.
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A
I also enjoy that your. Your supervisors called back, and then you get reported sometimes for being a little bit sarcastic. People after a while, start to feel bad about it.
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B
What do you.
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A
I mean, can you give us, like, broad strokes, like, as to the demographics of people call you? I guess I've heard more women than men on some level.
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C
Yeah, it's been a lot of women. I've had my share of men. You know, plenty of white people. But there's. There's also been a handful of Indian people calling on other Indian people. There's been Hispanic people that have called, but, yeah, mostly white people. You know, like, in most things, the whites have the most of it.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
Before we get into this, this sort of scam that you ran that really got pretty deep into it, what other. What other things have you done prior to the ICE tip line? Like, what other. I don't know. They are like pranks.
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C
You were the city of Atlanta, right? That's right. Yeah. It started with pretending to be a customer service representative on corporate Facebook pages. You know, like, Walmart. People are mad at Walmart, whatever. And then. Yeah. When I was living in Atlanta, Georgia, I made the city of Atlanta Facebook page and that one a lot of traction. And then the actual city of Atlanta was like, he needs to stop doing this. He's using our. And then the news, like, reported it. They put it on their screen, and then the news was like, do you have anything to say back? And so I gave them a list of demands, like, I'll stop posting, but I need. I need these things to happen. And it was like, all my traffic tickets are absolved. Two free rides on the trolley. And I asked $60 in cash.
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A
Did you get that? No. But it's not illegal, right? I mean, is there a. Is there a, like a stat statute against vague. Like sort of impersonating a city's website? Is that illegal?
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D
Well, you know, you don't have to
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A
admit to anything if you think it's
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C
going to be kind of dance around
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A
the line gray area.
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C
Yeah, that's a great.
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D
That's.
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C
Yeah. I like to explore gray areas. That should be the name of my next comedy special actually. Gray areas. No, but you know, I think with that it's like, you know, it's parody. It's protected under parody. I don't ever try to do anything maliciously. I don't try to steal anyone's info. Never try to scam anybody for money. And you know, the, the end goal for me is always just jokes.
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A
Let's talk about this because I can't remember what, what the genesis was, but you ended up becoming, developing a, I think a fairly close relationship with Congressman Ted. What is it? Yoho, right? Yeah. This is just crazy. So walk us through this or start it up or fire it up.
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C
I'm gonna start it up and just as a quick intro, I'm gonna do a bit about multi level marketing companies, pyramid schemes, which they're are a lot of those companies out there where nobody makes any money except if you're at the very top, you end up making a lot of money. And most people end up just losing money or just wasting their time. But one of these companies is called Monat or Monet. And they were getting in trouble because in addition to being a pyramid scheme, they were causing people's hair to fall out their haircut.
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A
Wow. And that wasn't the product that they were selling.
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C
That was the byproduct of the product.
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A
Tired of haircuts? We can we have a way of you losing your hair.
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C
So, so I emailed them as a reporter named Jackie Jones with the Coloradoan Times.
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B
Colorado, right.
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A
Great logo.
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C
There's. Thank you. There's the Colorado one, but there's not the Colorado in Times. So yeah, I emailed them a quote from their CEO that says if you like the Vin Diesel look, you should try our hair products because they'll make he bald. And they emailed back and said that that is absolutely unequivocally not from their CEO. So I said, okay, I'll make sure to note. He didn't say anything about Vin Diesel. I said, but we do have a quote from Vin Diesel about him. I said, I can share that with you. They're like, yeah, we want to see that before you run it. So I'm like, okay, this is directly from Vin's reps. I've relied on Monat to keep me bald for years. Then the next email I got was from their lawyers. A multi page legal document that mentioned Vin Diesel several times. They said they can, you can tell it's not the CEO by a simple Google search. They said if we publish this, that Monat's gonna take swift legal action. And then they gave me a deadline to confirm that I won't publish it. They said, if you have any questions or wish to address this issue, you further, please contact us or have your attorney do so. So I had my attorney do so. I said, On January 28, 2021, you threatened to take swift legal action. I'm reaching out to inform you if you take any legal action against Jackie at the Colorado and Times, even just a tiny hair of legal action. I'll respond by photoshopping every Monad executive called and these photos be posted on the Internet and made easily accessible by a simple Google search. In addition, I'll get in touch with every bald celebrity to ask them if they'd be interested in promoting Monat. That list includes, but is not limited to Pitbull, Charles Barclays, Larry David Seal, Terry Crews, and the Dalai Lama. You have until Friday, January 29, 2020. Mountain Standard.
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B
Wait, wait. Can you refresh me on whether what the time difference is between when you receive that email or when you sent this email and when the deadline is
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C
for the next day, I believe.
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B
Okay, great.
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C
I said that time has already passed.
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D
Oh, there we go.
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C
Questions or wish to address this issue further, please do not hesitate to contact Jones. Sincerely, Jackie Jones. Jones, Jones and Jones, llc, Attorneys at law. You mess with Jones, you get the Jones. So I shared that interaction online, and somebody saw it. And I don't know how they got this link, but they sent me a link to a Zoom party that all the executives at Monat were having, all the people at the very top of the triangle. So I joined as Trey Angle, And I got awkward in there very quickly,
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A
and I see one place I don't recognize.
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D
Who is Mr. Engel.
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C
Hey, I'm Trey
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A
the beach.
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C
And they removed Trey from the meeting. So I tried to change my name and rejoin, and they let me back in. So I was able to say, you mess with the Jones. Okay. And. Yeah, and so that's the kind of stuff I do. So this happened. This happens. Yeah. So someone sent me a message all the way back in 2020. They said they bought the domain Parlor Social, and they made a website making fun of the social media app Parlor. And that was the Parlor logo. This is. Is the website logo that they made. Obviously looks nothing like the actual Parlor, but here's the website. You're in a safe space now.
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A
Parlor doesn't exist anymore, does it? Is it?
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C
They kind of got bought by somebody else. They have Like a different function now, but look like the social media app Parlor. No, it doesn't exist anymore, but at the time, I did. So he left, like, a form on the website for people to fill out, and that's why he reached out to me. He was like, hey, do you want to, like, respond to people who fill the form out? I was like, yeah, sure. But then, you know, we never really heard anything from anybody filling out the form until a year and a half later, he messaged me again, saying that an actual Congress person filled out the form. His name is Ted Yoho. Thinking that it's actually legitimately Parlor. Ted Yoho was the guy who called AOC Alexandria Ocasio Cortez a fucking bitch. And when he said that, it was like a big issue. People made the news. And then he was supposed to apologize for it to Congress. But here was his apology. The offensive name calling words attributed to me by the press were never spoken to my colleagues. And if they were construed that way, I apologize for their misunderstanding.
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B
He's being very specific about not to. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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C
Or for loving my God, my family, and my country. I yield back. Yeah. So that was his apology, quote, unquote. But he left his phone number on the form, and he wanted someone from what he thought was Parlor to reach out to him about making a podcast, helping him produce a podcast. So I called him.
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A
Wait, wait, why? What? Hold on. I want to go by that so quickly. Like, he's like, I don't. I want to make a podcast. I don't know any other person in the world. So I'm going to reach out to a social media site and say, help me.
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D
Like, what?
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A
Does he not know anybody?
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C
And not only a social media site. A website pretending to be a social media.
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A
Yes, yes.
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C
Which, by the way, like, clearly on that website, it says at the bottom, it says, this is a joke. Please don't sue me. Like, it literally says in fine print. But I. I guess he didn't see it. So when I called him, to be honest with you, I thought this was going to be, like, the first and last call. And so I was just gonna say a bunch of crazy stuff, see if he would hang up on me and. And be done with it. But he never really picked up on anything. I was saying when we talked about his podcast, content's gonna be, you know, pretty much, God, country, family, everything. I ran on. Sorry, cut out. I cut out. Yeah. God damn it. Family or something. God, country and family. Oh, okay. I was gonna say. I was like, Whoa. So I said that we talked about school shootings, we tried to get implemented when I was in Congress. A gun safety program, going to the school. Of course, none of the schools, you know, really wanted to do that. Maybe if there were more shooting ranges inside the schools, you know, that with all that aggression, you know, you skip right past the lunchroom, you know, right to the shooting range. You get some target practice in. Even if the targets were, you know, six year old boys and girls as the targets, you know, that saves a life. Then, hey, well, and have the parents come out with you. So clearly he's not. He's not paying attention. So this just kept going over time. We kept working with him. He wanted us to make him a website for his new podcast. And so there that is. That's what we did for him. He was sending us, like, blogs that he wrote. Like this one.
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A
Let me ask you this. Did he pay you?
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C
No. See, that was the thing. I. He probably. He wanted to pay, but I always said, we really like what you're doing. We just want to.
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A
So he thinks, like, I nailed it. I like, of all the places I could have tried to call, I called the one place that didn't come out. And these guys are doing great.
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C
He's like, these guys love me so much, they're gonna do this for free.
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D
Yeah.
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C
Because I didn't ever wanted to get any monetary transaction. Because then.
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A
Right, right then it becomes a different level. Level of right.
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C
Yeah. But yeah, he was writing blogs and sending it to us and we just uploaded those under like the manifesto section of the website. Yeah, this kept going. I honestly didn't know how long I could keep doing this. One time he asked me, he's like, does anybody else work with you over there? And I was like, yeah, that's true. I can't be the only person working for Parlor. So I recruited another comedian, Walter Masterson.
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A
Yes, we know. We watch Walter stuff.
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C
So Walter came on and was like a creative director. So we had a couple zoom calls with Ted. I mean, the ignorance out there is just amazing. Yeah, there are a lot of just ignorant people. I mean, completely. And it's like the stuff is happening right in front of them and they're
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D
just like, totally ignorant.
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C
They fall for anything. So we had to call. I honestly, like, didn't know how I was gonna. What was gonna happen, like, how long I could keep doing this. But, you know, the AOC thing was an important reason why I kept going. Because remember, he told Congress that he never called her that. And then even on the news, he went and told them this. Did you refer to her as a
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A
F word, B word?
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C
No. I walked down the steps.
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A
I said, this is just such freaking
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C
bs but here's what you call. Here's what he told me. On a call, a reporter heard me say something. He said, what was that about? I said, no comment. You guys are in the media business, and, you know when somebody says no comment, it's kind of off the record. You know, you don't. You don't go after that.
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D
Right.
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C
And he said, did you call her an F and B? And I said, no comment. But truth is, as I walked away by myself, I said, what? A F and B? Yeah. So he admitted to me some things that he lied to Congress. So at this point, it started to get kind of. Kind of getting deeper and deeper. He wanted me to meet him in person. He invited me out to Liberty University, where they're having this CEO summit where other politicians and powerful people were going to be there because he wanted them to come on as guests on his podcast. So at this point, I was like, before I do all this, I really probably should talk to a lawyer. So I registered Jones, Jones, and Jones. And then I actually did reach out to a lawyer. I called one of Sasha Baron Cohen's lawyers, because he had that show who Is America? And in this particular episode, this is Roy Moore, the judge from Alabama who is a pedophile. And Sasha Baron Cohen said, I have this wand that could detect pedophile excrement. And he, like, scanned himself, and nothing happened. And then he scanned Roy Moore, and it started going off, start beeping. So later on, Roy Moore sued him for, like, $90 million. And Sasha Baron Cohen won. And one of his lawyers told me on a very brief phone call that the reason he always wins is because he has these people sign these airtight contracts before they go on his show. So that same lawyer sent me the same contract, and I got Ted to sign it.
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D
Oh, my God.
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A
Now, had you set up Parlor Social llc?
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C
Yes, I also set up Parlor Social.
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A
That was smart.
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C
Yeah.
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A
That's a real entity. Yes.
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D
Yeah, that's the part.
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A
That's your pretty production company is for that production. That's fantastic.
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C
Exactly. Yeah. So off we went to Liberty University, meeting him for the first time.
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A
I like how you did not. The thing I really appreciate this is, like, I could see how, you know, like. Like, for instance, like the yes Men. Are you aware of them? I would imagine that. And. And, you know, they would. They would really dress the part. And when I saw, like, when I was watching this and saw you show up with, like, you really did nothing in any way, like, change. Like, it doesn't even look like you washed your clothes to present, as if you were at parlor social. But I guess, like, part of it is like, you're the. You're the Internet guy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So, like, it's like, he's talent. So we can't.
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C
You know, we don't exactly. I did stick out a little bit. I tried to get the Liberty University hat when I was on campus. That was my one, like, disguise attempt. But, yeah, so, you know, we were there with Ted. We were supposed to start interviewing people in this conference room that he had booked for us. Apparently, he double booked it with the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia. So they, like, they came in, they're like, who are you guys? And I'm like, I'm just here with Ted. So we actually had to leave. And so the first day, we didn't interview anybody. We just ended up following him around. Oh, by the way. Yeah. So I went. Walter went. And then Matt, the guy who made the website, the fan who reached out to me from the beginning, the three of us went. And I brought a cameraman as well. So, yeah, that whole first day, no interviews, we're just following him around. And, you know, he's just, like, shaking hands with people and introducing us to people. Like, that's the former president of Ghana there in the middle. That's another congressperson over there on the right. And then there's us. That's the look of, what am I doing here right now?
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A
Walter. Walter dresses the part a little bit. He's. He's got. Walter has a character that if. That whole backstory on that character. I can tell right there.
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C
Right? So Ted's, like, giving a speech in this conference room. We're outside waiting for him. When we're waiting for him, all sudden these people approach us and start asking us these questions, like, you know, do you belong here? Do you have a card? Can we see your license? I'm like, oh, great, now we're about to get sent home. But we realized it was Walter, the one they recognized. Because before all this, he had been doing things like this a lot in person. I'm usually all online. So we realized he was the one they recognized. For example, here's one of Walter's stunts where he joins on the beach Marjorie Taylor Greene and, uh, Matt Gates.
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A
I'm so excited. I mean, just, oh, everyone thinks you're crazy. I don't think you're Crazy people think you're a pedophile. I don't think thinks against him are totally false. They're totally false.
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C
So Walter, you know, he does this kind of thing. So we realized it was Walter who they recognized. So he texted our group chat. He says, I'm gonna leave so you guys can keep doing this. And he was right. Walter was the one they recognized. Because I had security come up to me. They had Walter's tik tok on their phone. And they're like, are you with this guy? And I was like, no, no. We just. We just met him today. We don't really know him like that.
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A
Of course, y realize that you've jettisoned Walter. So yoho's not privy to the fact that everybody's like ringing the alarm bell about Walter being there.
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C
YOHO does not know that Walter has now left. Here's what was going on in yoho's perspective. We thought they might be the tik tok disruption it.
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A
So.
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C
So he blamed the Chinese instead of blaming us. Thank you, China, by the way, for getting us out of that. Yeah, he never. He never brought it up again. He did ask. He goes, where'd your buddy go? And I was like, oh, I think he had to go home or something. So I was very nervous. But then he never brought any.
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A
So amazing too, that like. Like, he's just like, I got the guys here, I gotta trust them. They're like, I mean, he's just. The fact that one of the guys just was unnecessary, I guess, and just. He's so stupid. You don't have to be quick on
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D
your feet at all with dealing with.
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B
I mean, he's so congenial with you. Really too, already at this point, it's your first in person meeting.
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C
You're his only friend.
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D
Yeah.
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C
I think he was happy that we were there. I really don't understand what he was thinking, but I was like, okay, as long as we can still stay. But yeah, he invited us to some dinner. And I was like, no, I don't want to do that. Because the next day we had a confirmed guest that he had booked, and that was a former presidential candidate, Michelle Bachman. So the next day I met her. You can see the lovely logo we drew for Ted on the whiteboard back. Very professional.
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A
Is that your pony too? Yeah.
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C
So I had been doing this for three months and, like, I wanted this to be, you know, the end. So I. I brought some things, some props that I wanted to present to Ted to see if you remember, like, all the things that we talked about on the very first phone call that we have. Have had one of them. Oh, by the way. Yeah. Michele Bachmann signed the Sasha Baron.
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A
That's fantastic.
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C
So, yeah, one of them was a horse. Because before he worked in congress, he worked as a veterinarian. And we talked about that on the abortion side, I mean, if you get rid of the male population and get it manageable, then you can manage your herd from that point forward. I think that's a great happened over the years. A great analogy to go with humans to it put this on. The men get forced vasectomies and now they're carrying a little bit more of the responsibility, you know, if they can't get the nut and there's not going to be the baby. So that's true. So I brought the horse.
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A
There's nothing you could say to him.
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C
Exactly, exactly. I brought the horse. I brought forceps for the horse. And I mugged vasectomy survivor, I kid you not. And so I presented that to them and they, you know, they thought it was funny. They didn't know what really was going on. It was kind of awkward. Then the next thing I presented, that's when it got really uncomfortable because that was the target with the kids on it. And I put that behind them. That's when they realized just, you know, something isn't quite right. They actually, they got up and they left. But now in this conference room, it's just me, Mac, the guy who made the website, and the camera guy, and I'm like, guys, I think we should just pack our stuff up and leave as soon.
- [96:16]
B
Wait, who realized first? Who realized first? Bang. Was it Michelle or your friend?
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C
It was definitely Ted. Michelle just had a look of shock on her face. The entire time she's had this face and then she had the mouth open face. Like, what is happening right now? You know, from her perspective, it's like she's just talking to Ted the whole time. He's like, yeah, let's come up and record this podcast. Downstairs. They had, they were having all these people congregate and there was like, you know, politicians and armed security. And he's like, yeah, let's just do a quick podcast upstairs. Her not knowing. Any idea how deep in this Ted is with us? So, yeah, we're like getting our stuff ready to leave.
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A
Did you get, I'm sorry, one more question. Did you get a sense that he was suspicious because he had already been approached about the tick tock thing, or was it just, oh, my God, my good friend from Parlor social. It's maybe a little bit crazy.
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C
No, he. I talked to him again later that night, and he was talking about other stuff. Oh, yeah, he brought up. He brought up, like, one of the speakers, you know, said something about how they had a close call during the. It. When they're a kid. It was like someone from a different country who almost was murdered. They. They left the country, and they. It was a close call. And he brought up the. When he said the phrase close call, I was like, yeah, yeah, I know a lot about close calls. I definitely. I had one today myself. And, you know, that, of course, he didn't pick up on that. So, yeah, I don't know what. What was going on, but he had no clue. It had to be right in his face. Apparently, when, you know, the school shooting topic came up, that's when it got very uncomfortable. Uncomfortable for them. So, yeah, we're trying to leave, and then he comes back in the conference room demanding that we give the contract back that Michelle Bachmann signed. And he tried to, like, close the camera guy I hired in the door, too. Yeah. So this whole time, I'm like, good Lord. He's trying to get that contract back. Thankfully, Mac, the guy who made the website, he tucked it away in his butthole like it was like a sack of drugs. So he never got the contract back from us. But I noticed on his hands. So he. He was bleeding a little bit because he was wrestling with the cameras, trying to turn him off, and he cut himself. And I was trying to calm him down. I'm like, hey, you know, you're bleeding. You need to relax. So then when he saw that he was bleeding on his hand, he pulled out his phone and tried to say that we were the ones who assaulted him. This is all disingenuous. And in the process, they attacked me, and I got hurt. And I hope you have good insurance. Oh, wait a second. Hold on.
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A
No comment.
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C
So finally, then the security people came up. The police come up to the conference room. Then he tells them that we assaulted him. So they say, okay, you can't leave now. You're under investigation for assault. And our camera guy left. We didn't know how to use the camera that he left behind. But thankfully, Mac, the guy who made the website, recorded everything with his iPhone as it was happening. So we showed the police the iPhone footage of Ted actually being the one assaulting us, and they said, do you want to press charges against him? And I. I. You know, I didn't want to. I just wanted to get out of there. So, by the way, the iPhone bailed us out, which was made in China, So thank you once again. So, yeah, we all just left. That was the last time I talked to Ted. I did want to reach out one last time to apologize, though. So I emailed him. I said it was unfortunate that I created Michelle Bachmann. I said, I apologize for your misunderstanding, but I cannot apologize for my passion for loving my gods, my damage, and my family. Jones Parlor Social.
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A
Oh, that's so great. That's so great. And you guys. And. And. And I. So I guess it. It really seems to have ruined your friendship with him.
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D
Yeah, yeah.
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A
Things he never hears. You never hear from him again.
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C
Never heard from him again. Don't want to contact him again. That book is closed. That I'm happy to not be working for him.
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A
I so desperately want to know what was going on in his head, though. I sort of feel like maybe there's. Go whistle in a field. There's an opportunity for you to sort of, like, just go back and say, hey, you know, I really want to understand what was going on.
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B
And I felt like we had a real connection.
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A
Listen, there's a redemptive ark for you here, I think, where maybe you find some type of, like, God and you go back and try and make amends by. By going over how that happened.
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C
Right.
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A
I would love to see. I just, like, what was he thinking throughout this whole thing? Like, how. How do you reach out to just a random social media company that would be like me just sending an email to Google and going, hey, I want to make a podcast. You got anybody there who's got nothing to do? And it's just fantastic.
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C
Well, yeah, AOC saw this, right? She finally did see it. Yeah. Like, I posted on Instagram a month or two ago, and someone tagged her and she saw it. Yeah. So she commented, oh, my God. With a laughing.
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A
It is so great. It is so great.
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C
Well, yeah, I was gonna say at that event, he kept saying, oh, the actual CEO of Parlor is going to be there. George Farmer. He's like, so you guys.
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A
You.
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C
You'll. Your people will be there. I'm like, I hope that guy does not see us.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Please do not make that introduction. How did he know that?
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A
He saw it on the. Like, who did he think you were? Did you tell them, like, what your job was at Parlor?
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C
Yeah, I mean, I would just say, you know, we.
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A
I don't know.
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C
I'm like a director or. I just tried to sound very professional sounding. You know, I've listened to plenty of, like, actual business zoom calls. And I try to imitate that. You know, I. One time I was talking to, like, my wife at the time. I'm like, talking to her in the background. He's like, oh, you talking to your colleagues? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking to. But I was like, in an office. I'm like, just in my, my house, just chilling, you know, so. Yeah.
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A
Well, I really appreciate the work you're doing and we'll put a link to that because, I mean, I've seen you do that as a live show. Right when you go around. What do you want to plug?
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C
Oh, yeah, thanks. I. I'm starting up a tour soon. I tell everyone that I'm moving to a new city, but I'm only going to stay for a day or two. Then I got to. So if you go to Ben, Ben palmersmoving.com you can sign up to be notified when I get a show in your city. That'd be awesome. I appreciate that. Thanks so much for having me on.
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A
Well, we'll link to your stuff in that. That sign up as well. Ben Palmer. Palmer Trolls. Thank you so much. Really great work. Really enjoy it.
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C
Thanks, Sam. Thanks, Emma. I appreciate it a lot.
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B
Thanks, Ben.
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C
All right, bye.
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A
All right, folks. Well, are we gonna do another freebie? Like three freebies in a row?
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C
Some kind of socialist.
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A
Oh, we didn't do one yesterday. Well, we did an inadvertent freebie. Yeah, we might as well. We got 45 minutes, right?
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B
Oh, I just. Oh, I didn't know what you meant by inadvertent freebie, but yes, now I understand.
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A
Do you need to take a break?
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B
Probably.
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A
All right, well, let's take a break. But we'll do. We can still do a freebie.
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C
We could just go to break. We could just do a shorter fun half too.
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Yeah, we'll do a shorter fun half. We did a freebie the other day. All right, folks, just a reminder, it's your support that makes this show possible. You can become a member. Join the MajorityReport.com when you do, you not only get the free show free of commercials, but you also get the fun half and just coffee, co op, fair trade coffee, hot chocolate. Use the coupon code. Majority get 10% off. Matt. The Matlec media universe. Yeah. This morning David Griscomb and I went
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through a survey of the right wing's
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response to this Iran war. And they all basically have a complex
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about their daddies as what we've determined
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and also Bronco March Teach joined us
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to talk about the Iran war in general. So go check that out over at
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the Jacobin Meg YouTube channel, there's gonna be a Sunday show for our left reckoning patrons.
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Patreon.com leftrecking and Emma, what are you plugging?
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Well, it's sold out. This dynasty typewriter. We've sold out.
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The heat is on them when they
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do this and so it's sold out. Sorry, guys, if you didn't get tickets, but if you didn't, you still can become a patron of the habituation room. And there will be a recording of the live show available on Francesca's Patreon.
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So if you haven't got the tickets,
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you know, you know, we're just a big draw. We're just a big draw.
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C
What kind bull is this?
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It's not even happening for a while, is it?
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Two and a half weeks.
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That's pretty good to sell out two and a half weeks in advance. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Damn.
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Yeah.
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Also popular. What was the end? Doom Scroll. Oh, yeah.
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Well, it's been a week since I've come out, so I'm. People could check it out. So 1. I feel like I've plugged it enough.
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You want to be one of the hundreds of thousands of people.
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Is that the numbers right now at like 171last time?
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That's a lot for that show.
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Yeah.
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I mean, respect.
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He's a. He's a talented interviewer and I think that that series is interesting. I haven't watched a ton of. I've only really watched like Crystal's episode and some others. But I think he interviews some like other more controversial people on there too. Who? I'd be curious.
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That will Minicar fellow. Oh, yes.
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Yeah. Oh, Felix. He also interviewed, I think too. Right.
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I haven't seen that one if he has.
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But anyway, there's a lot of good interviews on Doom scroll, so check those out.
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See you in a fun half. Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow, what, what is that going on? It's nuts. Wait a second. Hold on, hold on for a second. Emma, welcome to the program. Matt. What is up, everyone? No me Keen.
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You did it.
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Fun hat let's go, Brandon.
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Let's go, Brandon.
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On.
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Bradley. You want to say hello?
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D
Sorry to disappoint everyone.
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C
I'm just a random guy.
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It's all the boys today.
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B
Fundamentally false. No. I'm sorry.
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Women. Stop talking for a second.
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B
Let me finish. Where is this coming from?
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Dude. But. Dude, you want to smoke this? 7A.
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Yes.
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Hi.
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Me.
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Yes.
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Is this me?
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Is it me?
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It is you. Is this me?
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Hello?
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It's me. I think it is you. Who is you? Every single freaking day. What's on your mind?
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B
Sports.
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We can discuss free markets.
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C
And we can discuss capitalism.
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I'm going to go sky.
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B
Who?
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Libertarians. Stupid. Though common sense says. Of course.
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Gobbledygook.
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We nailed him.
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So what's 79 plus 21?
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Challenge. Matt. Positively quivering. I believe 96. I want to say. 857-210-355, 011 half. 3, 8, 9, 11.
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For instance.
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$3,400. $1900. 5, 4.
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$3 trillion. Sold. It's a zero sum game.
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Actually. You're making me think less of.
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Wait, but let me say this poop. You call it satire.
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B
Sam goes in.
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Satire.
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C
On top of it all.
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D
Yeah.
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My favorite part about you is just
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like every day, all day, like everything you do.
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Without a doubt. Hey, buddy. We seen you. All right, folks, Folks, Folks.
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It's just the week being weeded out. Obviously.
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Yeah. Sun's out, guns out. I. I don't know.
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But you should know,
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people just don't
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like to entertain ideas anymore. I have a question. Who cares?
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Our chat is enabled, folks.
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I love it.
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B
I do love that.
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Gotta jump. You gotta be quick. I gotta jump.
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I'm losing it, bro.
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Two o', clock, we're already late and the guy's being a dick. So screw him. Sent to a gulag.
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Outrageous.
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Like, what is wrong with you?
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Love you.
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Bye. Love you. Bye. Bye.