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Sam Seder
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Emma Vigland
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Mariana Sotomayor
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Emma Vigland
The Majority Report with Sam Cedar. It is Tuesday, June 2, 2026. My name is Sam Seder. This is the five time award winning Majority Report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravaged Gowanus Canal in the heartland of America, downtown Brooklyn, usa. On the program today, Daniel Nakanian, founder, editor in chief of Bolch magazine on the primaries. Then Josh Jaeger, bargaining committee chair for UAW Local 2093 on strike in Michigan. Meanwhile, Trump, now bored of Iran negotiations, doesn't care that there aren't any. This as Netanyahu tells him to take a hike on a ceasefire with Lebanon. Primaries today in California, New Jersey, Iowa, Montana, New Mexico, South Dakota, perhaps the biggest primary day of the year. Meanwhile, Trump forced to abandon his $1.8 billion slush fund. Trump regime dismantles ocean monitoring system to give us data on the warming of the seas. Climate change.
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Sam Seder
We don't test for it.
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Emma Vigland
It's not happening because why not? Exactly. D.C. circuit Court finds the Pentagon ban of transgender people illegal. Bars the military from kicking out current service members. Meanwhile, Pete Hegseth blocks promotions of nine naval officers who are all coincidentally black or female again. Yeah, listen, this is for the Navy.
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Sam Seder
Such a coincidence.
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Emma Vigland
Scott Pelly accuses Barry Weiss of murdering 60 Minutes, the CBS show. I should say. I imagine the 60 minutes that you have to sit through with Barry Weiss seems new. Stricter requirements on Medicaid eligibility by the Trump regime will raise the number of 5 million people losing their Medicaid to potentially 7 million people. Meanwhile, Trump names Bill Pulte. He was the one who illicitly combed through mortgages to accuse Fed Governor Lisa Cook of mortgage fraud. Now his name to the director of National Intelligence Marco Rubio heads to the Senate today to face the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Perhaps his vice presidential ambitions hang in the balance. I'll be watching Marco. All this and more on today's Majority Report. It is Newsday Tuesday, says Emma Vigland. And when she says it's Newsday Tuesday, you know it's News Day Tuesday. Of course, we've got two guests on that.
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Sam Seder
It's not really Newsday Tuesday, but it is Election Day. So everybody get out and vote. Everybody get out and vote.
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Emma Vigland
Yes, if you are in one of those states. We're going to be talking to Daniel Nikanian about some of the more prominent races that will happen today. We'll have a full Roundup tomorrow after the primaries and then we'll be talking to Josh Jaeger. I mentioned Yesterday that a GM supplier on strike, 1,000 people in Michigan from the UAW. We will talk about him in the meantime. Primaries of course have a particular resonance this year because there is been a decided resurgence of progressives, particularly coming back after the last primaries.
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Sam Seder
2018 was like a, you know, when the Justice Democrats came in, that's when the squad unseated some of those older Democrats. Ayanna Pressley, Ilhan Omar AOC, Rashida Tlaib. But it's grown since then.
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Emma Vigland
20 expanded a little bit too. I think Cori Bush got added and, and Bowman. 2022, I think more or less stagnant. 2024, it went a little backwards because of all that AIPAC money. But the APAC money has now become a massive liability in these primaries. Really. In the past six to eight months, every time drop site breaks a story about how one candidate has been hiding their AIPAC money, the polls flip within weeks.
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Sam Seder
Yes, it's nuts. And, and I know that it's just New York City, But I think 2025, seeing Zoran Mamdani win meant a lot of people across the country saw that and said, what else is possible in my state?
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Emma Vigland
1, 100%. And in fact, you know, we were saying like Mamdani is going to have a big influence. I mean, we knew this, right? I mean this was a huge battle for the soul of the Democratic Party. That doesn't mean that Mamdani can win in, in Iowa, although maybe he could. But it doesn't mean that. But we were saying stuff like, you know, you go from New York City, you go up to Maine, you go across the country. And more and more we are seeing this happen. You spoke the other day to a candidate in New Jersey who, yes, looks like he's going to Hanway.
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Sam Seder
Oh, well, well, how dare you.
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Emma Vigland
Suspicious, but. Right. But we're seeing this across the board. We saw it with mija, we saw it with candidates. Well, we're going to see it in Maine next week, I think. But there is massive pushback. We have heard from DeRosa, the Cuomo aide who was on TV last week saying, I wouldn't cry if Susan Collins was senator. Of course, she was one of the midwives of the IDC in this state. But the more and more we are seeing the dead enders of the Democratic Party. And here is a clip from
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Sam Seder
CNN
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Emma Vigland
cnn, where Biden's former press office chief of staff Yamisi Egba Wallen is, is carrying on this tradition, I guess. And I don't know if this is a function of the APAC dead enders or a different breed of dead enders or if the, the Venn diagram of those two are very similar cryptocurrency folks and. But they are. This is a last gasp in trying to derail progressives from, from running in these general elections.
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Mariana Sotomayor
But I think we have lost the plot on authenticity. I think Graham Platner is cosplaying working class. He wears it like a Halloween costume. And that has been placed on him by the same people who have run a lot of progressive candidates across the nation. In this pursuit of getting to know the everyman, we keep picking these people who I think show the worst parts of society. And if I am to believe that Graham Platner can relate to everyday Americans, and that means I am to believe that everyday Americans are okay with Nazi tattoos because they get them accidentally when they're drunk or because they served in the military, they have very regressive views on race and on gender. I just cannot accept the fact that to gain the working class we have to dress up people who show the lowest of our values.
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Sam Seder
You're projecting. I mean, honestly, there's nothing about his platform there and that's why he's resonating, not because he wears a flannel shirt. I mean, this is how she thinks about voters. No, his platform, the fact that he doesn't take AIPAC money, the fact that he's running on Medicare for all, the fact that he wants to tax billionaires, that's what's operational here, not the cut of his jib and the way his voice sounds. It helps, but it's such a cynical way to view voters. And it should not shock you that she's a Democratic consultant. I was looking this up before the show. She has her own consulting firm and it's called Podium Strategies. And, and she is on air. And this should be a disclosure. If you're a Democratic consultant and you're talking about a campaign like Platner or Abdullah Sayeds, it should be said that you are. Your whole. Your pocketbook is under threat with campaigns like this. The success of campaigns that are reliant on canvassing and door knocking and in person, voter outreach is a direct threat to her pocketbook because consultant firms, which Democratic consultants, they make their cash off commission on large scale TV ad buys and digital media ad buys and these mailer campaigns that are not a part of the strategy of the more grassroots people. Power funded campaigns. So she's financially incentivized to say this on air.
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Emma Vigland
It's also a fascinating. We'll get into this maybe later in the program a little bit. But the, the whole cosplaying working class person. There isn't a single person in the, in the Senate who I think maybe, maybe there's like three or four who are not millionaires.
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Daniel Nakanian
Right, exactly.
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Emma Vigland
Like, you know, you can, he could be cosplaying just sort of like, you know, a middle class person. Like, like the idea that he sold his Gucci suits to. I'm going down to get the flannel at the. I mean, come on. And but we should also say this woman, maybe it's not indicative she attended Liberty University, which is the. Jerry Falwell, like the, you know, there are some people who argue that when Jimmy Carter was talking about pulling tax exempt status from universities that wouldn't integrate, that it was, that was the beginning of the sort of like anti abortion movement because that became much more palatable. So I don't know, maybe Yamisi has a better sense of what the average person wants coming from a fundamentalist university that only recently allowed black people to walk with white people at the, at their college. But be that as it may understand, it's not just that Platner had a tattoo. Other people also have problems even if they have no tattoos. This is number three.
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Mariana Sotomayor
It was baked. And now Republicans have a race in
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Emma Vigland
the Senate where, you know, maybe the Democrats have a flawed candidate, but now
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Daniel Nakanian
the Republicans have a just as flawed.
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Emma Vigland
More maybe more flawed.
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Mariana Sotomayor
More money to spend too. They basically sacrificed Cornyn, who was a huge prolific fundraiser, had a leadership position for somebody who has legal issues will come in and have to hit the ground running.
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Josh Jaeger
Why is James Talarico flawed? I don't think he's flawed.
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Emma Vigland
He's not even vegan.
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Josh Jaeger
If that was a flaw.
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Emma Vigland
Being vegan is not a flaw, by the way.
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Josh Jaeger
But they're accusing him of being vegan.
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Emma Vigland
They don't have any real dirt on him. If they had some real dirt on
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Daniel Nakanian
him, they would accuse him of something
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Josh Jaeger
worse than being vegan.
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Mariana Sotomayor
I'll give people.
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Emma Vigland
By the way, I think, I think
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Mariana Sotomayor
you haven't been spending enough time watching campaign. I think my grandma would say he's a little progressive on his ideology. Ken Paxton is going to turn voter down though. That's the bet that Trump is okay.
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Sam Seder
Your grandma would say that.
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Emma Vigland
Your grandma might say he's a little progressive on his ideology. Now on one hand, we don't want Anybody with tattoos. On the other hand, we don't want anybody who's a little progressive on their ideology. So on one hand, she's concerned that ostensibly Graham Platner is a Nazi because of his tattoo. But on the other hand, she has a problem with James Talarico because he's like, want to protect trans kids.
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Sam Seder
And, and he talks about billionaires.
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Emma Vigland
I mean, but you understand the game here that is being played.
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Mariana Sotomayor
Yes.
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Matt Leckie
Can I just make a quick note? This is a still from an interview where she's talking to the Fox News Sunday briefing folks about Afton Ben the progressive in Tennessee and how she was against country music.
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Emma Vigland
Look, I mean, this is. We are watching the white knuckled grip of the Democratic consultant class out here in the last moments realizing, like. And what kind of Democratic consultant goes. I mean, look, and here's the bottom line. Platner's the nominee. And if you have a problem with that, then you're mad at Chuck Schumer. And Janet Mills, who got into that race, scared every other candidate out. This, every reporter in Maine will tell you this. There's a reason why there's a dozen people running for governor on the Democratic ticket. It's because all those people were going to run in the Senate race. Yeah, for half of them. But Janet Mills scared everybody out because Chuck Schumer was going around bigfooting everybody. And the only person he couldn't scare out of the race was Platner because Platner was already in it. So if you're mad that Platner is the only candidate, you're mad at Chuck Schumer. But then you got to get over yourself and realize you have a choice, because in one week, Janet Mills is not going to increase her polling by 45% or whatever it is.
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Sam Seder
I only suspended my campaign. That's what she's saying. Please, maybe vote for me.
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Emma Vigland
And so the bottom line is you either get on board or you start campaigning for Susan Collins.
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Sam Seder
Vote blue no matter who, bitch. Vote blue no matter who, bitch.
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Emma Vigland
Eat it.
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Sam Seder
And also, and also the Talarico thing, it's betraying what I just said because Talarico isn't some like, like barn burning, of course, but it's the way he's campaigning. She. She would prefer a Colin all red style campaign from last cycle where he sat on his ass and consultants like her got really rich because he didn't go across the state. The closest we've gotten to flipping that Senate seat was in 2018 with Beto O'. Rourke. And he made Some poor choices with like going all in on gun control and stuff like that. And it didn't work out. But what he did do that was successful and you should read David Griscom's book, it goes into it right in the introduction was that he traveled all across the state and Talarico is doing that, but with a better campaign message.
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Emma Vigland
So like, but this is just like, this is more of the same. Here is CNN panel, Mariana Sotomayor, the Washington Post reporter. I mean, there is a whole cadre of people who are afraid that they are losing grip on politics.
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Matt Leckie
Yeah.
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Emma Vigland
And you know, they, they never thought they had control of the Republicans or to the extent that they did. They gave up on that 10 years ago, but they thought that they had control on the Democrats. And make no mistake about it, we still have a big problem with the, if not the majority, certainly a huge chunk of the Democratic Party. But more and more, you can see where this is going. And largely, frankly, it was obvious years ago where it was going to go because young people are far more engaged than when people my age were young. Good.
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Mariana Sotomayor
Michigan, a non Schumer candidate comes forward, particularly Abdul El Sayed, then we could potentially lose a state that we currently have the majority in. And that is a problem. Does that mean at the end of the day in November if, let's say, the Senate gets so close to flipping Democrats in particular flipping the majority, but they lose it because of these more unconventional, authentic candidates. I have heard already that people are very worried of that potential outcome.
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Emma Vigland
It's a challenge. Okay. Now she's supposedly relating this, and it's not her personal opinion, whatnot. She's just relating what people are saying. But obviously you know who she's hanging out with, right?
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Matt Leckie
I mean, you know who owns her paper.
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Emma Vigland
Exactly. And the idea of like unconventional, authentic, there's a lot of euphemisms being thrown around here.
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Sam Seder
Not a lawyer millionaire, basically, as my
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Emma Vigland
grandma would say, maybe a little too progressive or a little too authentic. First of all, we should also tell you that that woman who went to Liberty University, undoubtedly, I'm sure a member of cufi, maybe not her grandma, is not relevant. What's more relevant is maybe her niece or, or her contemporaries. But this whole unconventional thing, like, you know, McMarrow was also not a Schumer pick. It's just that she's been rejected because her politics are, I sort of like neither fish nor foul. She's trying to split the difference and people are sick of it.
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Sam Seder
They want to know what you stand for. They don't want to hear all of this, like, bloviating about why you can't do something.
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Emma Vigland
It is quite possible that. That Platner will lose. It's quite possible that Abdul El Said will lose if. If he becomes the nominee. Just like it was possible for every other nominee who's gone against Susan Collins for the past. Whatever it is. 30 years, 29 years. Yeah. You know, look, I don't care about Graham Platner's marriage any more than I cared about Susan Collins. Really interesting marital history.
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Sam Seder
The Republicans are just.
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Emma Vigland
There was a lot of talk about her having an affair before she married her second husband.
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Sam Seder
Yes, well, she throw stones.
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Emma Vigland
I can't imagine that anybody in Washington, D.C. is having affairs.
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Sam Seder
I mean, give me a break, right? Him and his wife worked through it. That's all that matters. Who cares? Who cares? People want to know. That's the thing, is they can't get out of their own head about his individual characteristics as well, because they don't believe in anything. Like, people are sick of hearing about people's, you know, the tattoo and their personal lives. Why he's resonating is because of what he stands for. I know that that doesn't resonate with you, but that's the reality.
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Emma Vigland
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Sam Seder
Huh. Coinciding with Trump getting elected.
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Josh Jaeger
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Emma Vigland
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Daniel Nakanian
Well, first of all, it's great to be back. It's been a while, always fun. So I take it you don't want me to start with the mayoral race in the suburbs of LA or San Diego that's happening today. There's. Yes, we can go up and down the ballot at your leisure, but there's big races today. There's primaries in six states, including, we can start with the big one, the state of California, with a lot of stakes at the federal level. Also a lot of stakes within the Democratic coalition, always, because there's a lot of fights there between left candidates, more centrist candidates, because it's California. And a lot of the fights that are within the Democratic Party. And the governor's race in California has been on everyone's mind since the beginning of the year. And I mean, that will, I was going to say will be decided today, but probably not, given that California is slower to count. So maybe by the end of the week we'll have an idea of who's going to move forward to general election. A reminder, in California, for local and federal and state elections, it's a top two system, unlike many places, which means that every candidate, regardless of party, is on the same ballot. And you can have two Democrats or two Republicans advance. And that's really shaped not just the governor's race, but all sorts of races, House races, the mayor's race in la, you know, all sorts of races. A lot of voters are strategically thinking about how can I make sure my party isn't shut out of the general election? How, how can I make sure maybe the other party is shut out the general election? And that sort of consideration, which is not a factor at all. And a lot of the country is driving a lot of the elections up and down the ballot in California today.
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Emma Vigland
All right, well, let's get to California. But I want to start with two of the Senate races that are noteworthy. One is the Iowa Democratic nomination. You got Turek, Josh Turek and Zach Walls in that. Zach Walls. Some of the old timers like myself may remember when this guy was like a 19 year old and I think he was testifying in front of the Iowa state Senate about his two moms. And it was incredibly compelling. The what's the big sort of difference between these two? Because their, their politics are not dramatically different.
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Daniel Nakanian
Right? They're not dramatically different. Primary has probably gotten less attention than other. It is not a main Senate situation in terms of how much attention it's gotten. I think partly because people expect Republicans to have an edge in default. It's an open race. The Republican senator is not running for reelection. It's an opportunity for Democrats to see if they can put Iowa back in play. Obviously it was a blue leaning state up until Trump. The two candidates running are not that different. One difference that they've fought over a bit. It's not issue number one. But when you try to see what the differences are. There was a bill in Iowa to criminalize reentry for immigrants. Illegal reentry may make it a criminal act that Republicans passed. And only a few Democrats who are sitting in the state house and state Senate voted for it, including Josh Turek voted for it and Wall says against it. That's animated some of their disagreements. I think Wallace generally has taken a more progressive lane in some ways but we're not talking about a huge split there. The big fight there will be in November. I think again people expect Republicans to have an edge but if it's a blue wave year, IOI is certainly not out of the question for Democrats.
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Sam Seder
Ann Seltzer wasn't wrong. She was just right too early.
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Daniel Nakanian
We shall see in a few months.
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Emma Vigland
And Turek is the D triple or the Democratic Senate campaign committee choice, is that right?
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Daniel Nakanian
I'm not sure on that one.
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Emma Vigland
I think Turek is the sort of. Is the more establishment choice, right?
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Daniel Nakanian
As a general point, yes. Whether the committee is actively supporting, I'm not sure but I think that's that. That is usually that. That is broadly the lane that is taking place there.
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Emma Vigland
So that's going to be an important. I think because I do think there is a slight chance, I mean everything could be in play by the fall. We have no idea what the situation is going to be.
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Daniel Nakanian
I mean everyone expects to governor's race in Iowa to be very contested. Democrats have a very strong candidate there who's currently a statewide official. I believe the only Democrat who's in statewide office and Iowa is running for governor also an open race. Democrats are sort of putting their hopes in that. Easier for Democrats to win a non state level race in a federal race. But you know, if you're contesting one of the two big statewide races, the other one is not certainly not insane to think about as well talk about
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Emma Vigland
Montana because this is really interesting. John Tester came in as, I don't know, maybe 20 years ago as the anti DLC candidate, which was the more corporatist wing, the third way wing of the Democratic Party. He won that race. I can't remember if it was 2008 or 2006. And, and then he sort of tacked a little bit to the right, particularly on immigration and some stuff. But he had, I don't know, about a year ago said a Democrat can't win in Montana anymore because the brand is so bad and he's supporting an independent. But also my understanding is he's also funding a PAC to support a Democrat. Explain that dynamic.
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Daniel Nakanian
Well, it's, it's very confusing there. So you know, there's this idea out there that in certain states Democrats might not win in November. So if Democrats support an independent candidate, they could win.
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Emma Vigland
They could see that in Nebraska.
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Daniel Nakanian
In Nebraska. So in Nebraska, where the primary was last month, there was a very clear primary choice between a Democrat who had all bets, said she was going to drop out to help the independent and a Democrat who was an anti abortion Republican affiliated pastor who was running to sort of stay in the race and split the Democratic vote in the fall. We're not seeing that in Montana in the sense that there is, there's five candidates I think on a ballot today for the Senate nomination. It's an open race as well. We're talking about open races. It's not like oh, this candidate is the one who's going to stay and this candidate is the one stay out based on their statements. But outside groups have swept in and are acting like there is such a divide. So there's the Montana Free Press I linked to in my guide has been, was was reporting there's a Republican linked group that is spending to support a very, very minor candidate based on the fundraising and campaign presence under the idea that that person is more likely to stay in and sorry, the other. And then, and then there's another group that is affiliated with Tester supporting someone else. It's sort of hard we're reading between the lines here compared to Nebraska, which makes it very confusing. Having a voter would, a voter doesn't have actual statements from candidates to support any of this other than like wait, if this group is supporting this candidate, does that mean they're not going to drop out? Does that mean they're going to drop out?
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Emma Vigland
Right.
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Daniel Nakanian
It's like a 3D chess, 4D chess. So we don't quite know what's going to happen, but that's one to watch today.
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Emma Vigland
Okay, let's move to the House. A lot of those races, the more, I guess dramatic ones are in California with a couple maybe in New Jersey as well. Tell us about those.
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Daniel Nakanian
Yeah, I mean there's, I mean the thing, the race that's most viral, most on people's mind is the race to replace former Speaker Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco. You know, it's flavors of the Democratic Party are fighting there within the San Francisco coalition. Interestingly, we're seeing the same not to jump too low, but San Francisco is the place where we're seeing a lot of center versus left fights today up and down the ballot. So that's I think one of the most interesting places today to watch. But it starts with this House race and there's a bunch of other races. Like there's a special election. There's not a special election yet. There's a primary to replace Eric Swalwell who retired from the House a few weeks ago. But then one interesting thing as well in the House in California is, you know, we all know Democrats redrew the map in California. It was approved by voters in November in response to Texas where Republicans redo the map. And there's a lot of new districts, a lot of, a lot of incumbents who are not maybe super endangered still are running in places that are foreign to them. It's the top two system. So it's not super interesting today in many places because they're probably going to survive till November. They could face another Democratic Democratic incumbent. So we might see interesting intra Democratic fight in November. But today will be a test of whether some of these Democratic incumbents were suddenly newer territory are going to pass or not. I'll also mention one place I was saying there's a fear that a party could be shut out in California because of the top two system. One place we've seen that at the House level there have been some threading by Democrats in particular about the 48th district, which is in San Diego. That's the district that Representative Issa, a Republican, is retiring from because it was drawn to be a Democratic district. There's a lot of Democrats running. There's only two major Republicans. That's the kind of situation that on paper you could end up with lightning striking and two Republicans moving through just because Democrats are so divided. It's not Democrats don't seem panicked about the situation. But that's at the House level. I think the main place to at least Watch for that dynamic of whether something happens just by virtue of the top.
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Emma Vigland
That's a good segue to governor.
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Sam Seder
I just wanna quickly ask about the 22nd though, just because like we've interviewed Randy Villegas on our show before and that's more likely to be a Republican versus a Democrat. Right? Because it's a purple district but endorsed by Bernie Sanders. That's a really important race.
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Daniel Nakanian
Right? It's a very important district. The 22nd, the Republican incumbent running for reelection. The district has become bluer, not like, oh, complete slam dunk for Democrats to win. That's one where there's one clear Republican, the incumbent. So it'd be a shock if the incumbent doesn't make it through. And there's two main Democrats. Well, that's to Samuel's earlier question. That's a situation where there's a progressive candidate that Emma just mentioned and someone who's very clearly the establishment candidate. So that, that's, that's not a primary per se because everyone's on the same ballot, but that effectively going to choose which of a more centrist and more progressive primary Democrat is going to move on. And you know, that's a sort of district, it's blue leaning. There's a Republican comment, but also blue wave in California in November that the Democrats would be favored to in there.
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Emma Vigland
Let's talk about the governorship because that is a, that is certainly something that Democrats have been sweating, the possibility of two Republicans winning.
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Daniel Nakanian
Right. Well, we started the year up until March, April, there was a lot of sweating on the Democratic side about what if Republicans just, even with, even if they just get a combined 35% of the vote, 40% of the vote, what if they both go through, you know, a bunch of things happened since then that has made Democrats a lot less nervous. Eric Swalwell was hit by a lot of allegations, had to drop out, that, that was number one, a major Democrat dropped out this spring and then Trump endorsed one of the two Republicans which consolidated the Republican vote around one Republican, which makes it less likely both, both, both move through. So it's sort of changed the dynamic and going into, you know, never. We will see the results. Right. But the bigger question today is whether true Democrats can advance over the Trump endorsed candidate, the British influencer Steve Hilton. And so I actually asked on social media yesterday, I was curious how California voters were choosing who to vote for and sort of launched a call for responses about how strategic people were being versus what they wanted. And I was surprised, but I mean a lot of people said Their primary motivation at this point is to see if they can shut out if they can fully force Republicans out of the race and voting strategically around the two Democratic frontrunners to try and get them both through so that that could.
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Emma Vigland
Those Democratic front runners now. Steyer and Becerra.
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Daniel Nakanian
Yes. So those are the two in the polls. Becerra has been ahead. The thing is, there's not a huge amount of polls and polls can be wrong, but this is really a situation where polls have driven the race rather than just showing what people think because people, I mean, Democrats have held onto their ballots. We know that. We know that Democrats in California are voting later than usual. They're watching the polls. And the polls that I've shown, Betsara and Steyer, the top two spots have consolidated. The more people see that, the more that has made them the top two, etc. So, you know, that's the strategic thinking that the top two system just forces on people. Not ideal.
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Emma Vigland
Bizarre. It's a little bit bizarre in my estimation. I mean, just to have people being that. That like taking their cues from the polls as opposed to the polls reflecting where people are. But that's.
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Daniel Nakanian
It is inherent era we live in. It's inherent to the system. In a situation like this, you, if you're a Democratic voter, you don't want to vote for someone who's going to end up at 3% if there's a chance that no Democrat makes it through. I mean, you. And it would be the same vice versa. But yeah, I mean, when so many people are voting based on polls that it creates a bit of a snowball effect that is not ideal for how polling is supposed to work.
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Emma Vigland
All right, let's talk about New Jersey.
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Sam Seder
Dr. Adam Hamoi was on our show last week. That primary in Central Jersey, New Jersey's 12th, feels like the best opportunity for a progressive pickup in a, like in a cycle since 2024 where there actually have been a lot of really progressive candidates in Jersey that have emerged. Mejia in my old district where I grew up. But you know, also McIver, who's been out there, you know, and charged by the Trump administration for standing up against ISIS abuses
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Daniel Nakanian
that probably, I mean, I think today a lot of California districts either the more clearly like left versus center battles will probably be more in the fall. And the governor's base doesn't really reflect such a clear ideological divide. The 12th district of New Jersey is the big one today where the left is hoping for a win. I mean, you just said. Exactly. Painted the picture where the Left got a major special election win in the primary there. Candidacy in April. I want May. March, April.
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Josh Jaeger
Yeah, April.
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Daniel Nakanian
In April. And I mean New Jersey is not a state that has been. Context is important here. And it's not a state that has been kind to progressives in part because it has such a strong party machine. And the party bosses in New Jersey, that's something people say the party bosses control primaries. Often true, often exaggerated. In New Jersey it's really been ground zero historically for the type of dynamic where a party boss endorsement, a county convention endorsement goes a huge way. And those are not people who support the left wing candidates. And that sort of started to break in 2024 with Andy Kim winning the
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Sam Seder
Senate race and changing the ballot so that it wouldn't be the county line which favored the. The that machine. Yep.
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Daniel Nakanian
In super. And you know, we were just talking about the top two system and the type of incentives it creates. The ballot design in New Jersey exactly was, was super important to how people voted and how the party bosses got sort of to influence people's choices. Super important to think about how very prosaic things like that are. Very important to how to what the results end up being. And yeah, New Jersey 12th we're seeing kind of a left center battle, very crowded field. That's, that's a district where, you know, there is technically a November general election. But. But today, today really is going to decide who. Who wins. Interestingly to just jump local for a sec. There's similar battles at the local level. So some of the people we're mentioning are supporting insurgent race, insurgent slates of candidates in towns in New Jersey like Bloomfield. And that's in and of its themselves, the races are not the most important. But as. As a test of the strength of the strength of the party establishment versus insurgent types. There's a lot to test that in New Jersey today. So that'd be interesting.
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Emma Vigland
All right, we gotta go. But is there one other race that we haven't mentioned that we should be keeping an eye on that fits in? I'm sure there's many, but
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Daniel Nakanian
let me go to New Mexico because I think New Mexico is super interesting and we haven't talked about it. New Mexico is interesting because it's very. Well, it's a state that has been controlled by Democrats for a bit. There's been a lot. There's a lot of very conservative Democrats. And I don't just say conservative lightly. Democrats who've been opposed to abortion rights, Democrats who've been opposed to paid sick Leave Democrats have been opposed to very basic ballot expansion reforms over the years. And the progressive wing there has been very successful really for a While now since 2016, 2018, every cycle in getting primary challengers to run and win against the more conservative Democrats that I was just mentioning who have voted against abortion rights and so on. Very interesting. Today there are three former state House members who were very influential, who were ousted in primaries over the past few cycles who were very influential on abortion and those debates. And they're all trying to get their seat back. New Mexico, and those are interesting because there's been such a shift left of the state House and state Senate in New Mexico, which has been very important for policymaking there. And today's primaries there are going to sort of test the balance of power between left and center in that state, which doesn't get as much attention as California. But there's a lot happening as well.
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Emma Vigland
It's going to be interesting to see like this is really a test, obviously not just today, but this is a big one for where progressives are in the Democratic Party and how durable their gains have been and will be going forward. Daniel Nakanian, we will put a link to Boltz magazine and I cannot encourage people. If you want to follow these primaries following Daniel on Blue sky or are you still on Twitter as well?
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Daniel Nakanian
I am still on Twitter as well.
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Emma Vigland
Me too. Is a great way to do that. Daniel, thanks so much for your time today. Really appreciate it.
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Daniel Nakanian
Thanks for having me. It's always fun.
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Sam Seder
Thank you.
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Emma Vigland
All right, folks, we're going to take quick break. When we come back, Josh Jaeger, bargaining committee chair for the UAW Local 2093 in Michigan. They're on strike. Thousand auto workers. We'll be right back after this. It. We are back. Sam Cedar, Emma Vigland on the Majority Report. It's a pleasure to welcome to the program Josh Jaeger, bargaining committee chair for the UAW Local 2093, representing about a thousand workers from American Axle, also known as the Dausch Corporation Dosh. And you guys went on strike yesterday. This is a story that really goes back almost 18 years. Is it 18 years?
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Josh Jaeger
Yes.
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Emma Vigland
Crap. Yeah, 18 years. I'm old. When the US government bailed out GM in the wake of the financial crisis, Correct? Tell us, tell us. Fill in the blanks for folks who don't know that story.
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Josh Jaeger
Well, 2008, we went on strike for 87 days. The great Recession was just starting and everything was stacked against us here in Three Rivers. General Motors had 90 to 100 days supply of trucks on their lot and the owner dicked out. He wanted to get concessions out of the UAW to have cheaper labor. And it was all stacked in his favor. We won by staying open, but we lost that battle because our wages were cut in half.
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Emma Vigland
Your wages were cut in half in 2008. And folks have to remember during that financial crisis, it looked like the entire car industry, US car industry, was going to get wiped out in this, in this country. And workers basically said, we're going to take the brunt of the hit here. And then the problem was everybody seemed to forget and nobody ever made the workers whole. And here we are. So American axle, you guys make the axles for these SUVs, essentially the heavy duty trucks.
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Josh Jaeger
We do the front and rear axle for GM's heavy duty line, the 2500, 3500. We also do the light duty Colorado Canyon that goes down to Wentzville. And we supply steering linkage components to next year over in Saginaw Mission.
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Emma Vigland
Okay, and so what are the primary asks that you guys are asking for?
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Josh Jaeger
In general, a fair contract. So when we went on strike back in 2008, our top wage at the time was $18 an hour. Our current top wage is $22 an hour. We've managed to gain back $4 an hour in 18 years. That doesn't keep up with any type of inflation, no type of increases. We have members that can't support themselves on a daily basis to make sure that they have a car, a roof over their head and their kids have medical care that they need. We had a lady who unfortunately chose to take care of her kids and let her health insurance lapse. In the time that it had lapsed, she suffered a house fire, total loss, and she became homeless overnight. I have members that have been there since pre 08. They were roughly 30 year associates since then, perpetually. He takes out a loan on his 401k, they pay off credit cards that he uses to make sure that he meets his own ends meet throughout the year, pays off that card with a 401k loan and then every year continues to rack that debt back up and then as that loan is paid off, takes out another one and continues that cycle. For the last 15 years you've been doing that.
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Emma Vigland
I should say that if you just like go and Google what, what would $18 from 2008 be worth today? It'd be about 28 bucks. And so you're talking about really like losing pace with just inflation by 33%. That's nuts. And in My, and my sense is that gm, obviously, the corporation that gets your axles and American Axle, the company that makes them, and what they're doing much better than being 33% under what their numbers were in 2008.
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Sam Seder
I read on the labor notes that the CEO has been paid $111 million in the last decade.
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Josh Jaeger
That's accurate.
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Emma Vigland
So what is the relationship between GM and American Axle?
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Josh Jaeger
It's pretty good. I mean, we were spin off from GM back in the day for drive shafts. There was originally five plants that were founded and we're the last of the remaining five plants from the 2008 strike. The other four plants, three of the four plants. Sorry, three of the five plants closed. Detroit remained open after 2008. In 2012, expiration of that contract, they were offered to mirror Three Rivers or they were going to close down Detroit. Those members had a better contract coming out of 2008. They didn't think that Dick the CEO would close their plant right across from world headquarters. They decided and declined not to match our agreement. And they ultimately did close that plant and tore them down the parking lot.
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Emma Vigland
I should also say that like roughly speaking, GM trucks, heavy duty trucks, have roughly doubled in their price since that time. And you guys are not seeing that. Somebody, Somebody's seeing that money.
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Josh Jaeger
Someone American actual, has made over $8 billion in profits in the last 10 years. Also, our wages back in 2000.
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Emma Vigland
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Josh Jaeger
8 billion with a B in the last 10 years.
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Sam Seder
It's just theft. It's just theft.
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Emma Vigland
That's nuts.
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Josh Jaeger
And don't get me wrong, we want the company to make their money, but we can continue to make ours. But we want their share of that time.
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Emma Vigland
And you guys have been in, you guys have been in negotiations for a while on this. And in management has just been. What has their attitude been?
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Josh Jaeger
My personal opinion, Lackluster. We've made our demand very clear since day one. No concessions, fair wages. And their last proposal was $25.75 an ounce.
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Emma Vigland
That still isn't even at where you were in 2008.
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Josh Jaeger
No. So in with the basic math of the golden rule for 3% a year, the $18 over the last 18 years and 3% increases, we should be at $30.64 a year or an hour right now. And our top wage is 22. We're trying to get back to where we should be.
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Emma Vigland
Yeah.
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Sam Seder
Yeah.
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Emma Vigland
And it's not like you're going to get backfilled for that. Right. Like nobody's going to Come in and say, hey, in 20 2009, you should have been getting $19 an hour. And in 2020, you know, in 2012, you should have been getting $22 an hour. You're not getting that money back. So even if you made, you're made to where you should be today, you'll still have 15 years of missing those increases.
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Josh Jaeger
Yes, that $29 an hour we were making back in 2008 is $44 an hour today.
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Emma Vigland
That's crazy.
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Josh Jaeger
We should be. But again, there's other asks out there besides wages. We want to maintain our health care costs, we want to improve working conditions, have a better life work balance. All those come at another financial cost that they, you know, tally into your overall labor rate. So if we're trying to get back to $30 an hour, we call it 30 by 30. So $30 an hour by 2030, that's not unreasonable. We are, we can have a life work balance, maintain our benefits at current levels, and no more out of pocket costs. How is that being unreasonable?
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Emma Vigland
What, what can folks do to support this? I mean, I would imagine they don the same sort of inventory of SUVs these days as they did during 2008. Or do they?
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Josh Jaeger
No. No, they do not. If you drive around, at least locally here, around for Michigan, you go to any car lot, they might have six or seven trucks sitting on a lot, and those are usually already sold units. American Axle started building a bank of axles January 5th. They had roughly a two week bank of inventory ahead of GM production schedules. And we walked out Sunday night or Monday morning.
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Emma Vigland
So they knew they were trying to prepare for this. So they got two weeks before they start to having to get serious about this.
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Josh Jaeger
They have managers in there right now crossing the picket lines. They're in there trying to do everything they can to bolster that number and get some more axles out the door. But it's only a matter of time before GM outpaces that and they're going to get pinched.
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Emma Vigland
So I imagine management's looking at your strike fund and going, this is just a war. Like, we'll see who can last longer.
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Josh Jaeger
Well, unfortunately, there was some local leadership that bought our local, funded the strike. And they're like, you guys don't have the money to really go on strike. Well, how do you figure? You don't. Well, your local doesn't have that kind of money. Our local doesn't pay for the strike fund that comes on international and that had, last I knew, over $800 million in that account. So we can outlast three weeks, we can outlast four weeks, and we will stay out as long as necessary to get that fair contract that our members are demanding and are long overdue.
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Emma Vigland
What can our viewers and listeners do to help support you guys?
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Josh Jaeger
Keep praying for us on the picket line to make sure that we maintain safe. We've had a few instances already where contractors that were hired by the company are blown through the picket lines. They're not giving us time to get out of the way. I watched personally one young man get hit by a van three times. Oh, geez. Push him out of the way. Another truck clipped a young person. I personally was hit by a car last night trying to aid in showing the picketers what to do as their hired security is trying to get a car out. They're pushing me out of the way, directed the car forward. It hit me. I think we have a clear understanding now of how we need to conduct business on both sides of that line, because nobody needs to get hurt or injured on a picket line.
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Emma Vigland
Where is the pickets taking place? If folks who are listening in the neighborhood want to stop by, maybe bring some pizzas? And I imagine having folks from the community standing there makes it a little more difficult for them to try and run you over.
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Josh Jaeger
Well, it's. The community support is unbelievable. We're out there holding that line and all the cars that are driving by and honking and throwing a fist out saying, good job, we support you. You can't even put measures to it. And now it's growing across the state. We have senators that have come down already, stood on the picket line with us. I talked to another one this morning. They're gonna try to get down here on their availability and stand on the line.
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Emma Vigland
These are local state senators?
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Josh Jaeger
Yes.
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Emma Vigland
Okay.
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Josh Jaeger
All local state senators. But the support growing from our community to the state, and now we're reaching out across the country. This labor movement started three years ago with the Big Three and Shawn Fain's campaign to get those back, get those guys back to what they had lost because they were behind, too. From 2008, the old mentality was live to fight another day.
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Emma Vigland
Right?
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Josh Jaeger
When do you stop living to find another day? When do you. When's that day? That day's today. That first day happened three years ago with that stand up strike with the big Three. And now three years later, our day is now with American actual.
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Emma Vigland
Well, Josh Jaeger, really appreciate you coming on and talking to us about it. And I encourage people, where can folks get information as to where the picket lines are.
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Josh Jaeger
We are located in Three Rivers, Michigan. Our hall is at 15802 Hoffman Road in Three Rivers, Michigan, 49093.
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Emma Vigland
And is there a website where people can also get information?
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Josh Jaeger
We have a local website. Local uaw2093.org.net.com. they all go to the same director.
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Emma Vigland
All right, we will link to that as well as post that address. Josh, good luck and thanks for coming on.
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Josh Jaeger
Absolutely. Thank you.
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Sam Seder
Thank you, Josh.
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Emma Vigland
All right, folks, we're going to take quick break, head into the fun half of the program. Couple of programming notes. I'm anticipating a call from San John, from San Antonio.
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Sam Seder
Need it. Need our election expert today.
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Emma Vigland
And then a lot of people have been on us about the Dave Rubin jubilee. We talked about it yesterday. Look, I don't like this whole thing where we pick on Dave Rubin. I don't. I don't.
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Sam Seder
You don't like it?
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Emma Vigland
I don't. I don't like it. I don't like it. No. But I also. There's a time where the audience just demands that you do it.
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Sam Seder
And so you're so captured by your audience.
- [63:07]
Emma Vigland
So audience captured.
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Sam Seder
I mean, honestly, this is afraid of our audience. This is. This is where we veer into territory where we're maxing out on the left.
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Emma Vigland
Yeah.
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Sam Seder
I mean, we're just responding to the audience.
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Matt Leckie
So 377,000 views.
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Emma Vigland
What we've done. What we've done is look, you know, we can sit here and say, oh, Dave Rubin should have said this, or Dave Rubin should have said that, or he's an idiot because he said this, or he's an idiot because he said that, or he's really stupid because he said this and he's really dumb because he said that. And he really doesn't know anything because he said this. We could do that, and we will. But we also, expertise is important. So coming up in the fun half, we have an actual member of the surrounded. What's his. His name is Mason. Mason. And he exposed Dave Rubin as being an idiot. Now, I'm not going to say like Mason's, you know, the only one who did that. There were 20 people there. And to the extent that all 20 got to talk, they all made Dave Rubin look like an idiot.
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Matt Leckie
Yeah, every single one.
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Emma Vigland
But Mason's going to join us and walk us through his exchange with Dave Rubin. And also answer the question. Was Dave questioned about me?
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Matt Leckie
The real issue.
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Emma Vigland
The real issue. I want to make this all about me. I want to. I want to make sure that we forefront Dave being an idiot and I don't want to center myself.
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Sam Seder
Yeah, let's not distract from it.
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Emma Vigland
But yeah, we could have both centered a little bit. Every cake has frosting. It's your support that makes the show possible. You can become a member. Join the MajorityReport.com Also, don't forget, just coffee co op, fair trade coffee, hot chocolate. Use the coupon code. Majority get 10% off. Matt, what's happening in the Matt Leckian media universe?
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Matt Leckie
Yeah, comedian Freddie G. Talking about New York politics, Delaney hall, the Israel Parade. Also Dave Griscom. And I talk about Norm Ficklestein who upset a bunch of people like Peter Dow for saying that you shouldn't necessarily rely on people like Candace Owens. Or wait, what?
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Emma Vigland
Peter Dow is upset about that?
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Matt Leckie
Peter Dow thinks. Yeah, Norm is selling out people by being too pure by not including Tucker Carlson.
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Sam Seder
Oh, we have that clip in the sound sheet, right?
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Matt Leckie
Yeah. Well, we play that in left reckoning after coming up at 2:45 right after the show today.
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Sam Seder
Why should we trust what Peter Dow was one of the worst people in the Clinton era, and then now he's just like doing a grift on the
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Matt Leckie
other side of the convert.
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Emma Vigland
He, he's, I don't know that he's doing a grift, but whatever. He's, he's on a journey. It's just that I wouldn't.
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Sam Seder
But how can you trust someone whose politics swing that wildly to the other side?
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Daniel Nakanian
He was really.
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Emma Vigland
I'm not suggesting you trust him. I'm just saying he's on a journey. And a lot of times that journey is to the bottom of the ocean or like the center of the earth. And it may be a little bit hot. To be fair.
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Matt Leckie
Glenn Greenwald also had the same position that Norm is being too pure in his politics. And I'll just say it's very interesting. A lot of the people that Glenn
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Emma Vigland
Greenwald was like a huge Tucker. I mean, come on.
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Matt Leckie
Well, I mean, also a lot of people that seem to be mad at Norm were also people who were proposing Trump as an anti war president, like in this, within this calendar year. So they're basically covering their ass and are embarrassed that everyone else saw what Trump would be before they.
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Sam Seder
Glenn said in that, all right, we'll be right back.
- [66:41]
Emma Vigland
Fun half, three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily Going to be better six months from now than it is three months from now. But I think around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts. Wait a second. Hold on. Hold on for a second. Emma. Welcome to the program. Fun hack. Matt.
- [67:16]
Josh Jaeger
Boo.
- [67:17]
Emma Vigland
Fun hack. What is up everyone? Fun hack. Nomi. Key.
- [67:22]
Daniel Nakanian
You did it.
- [67:23]
Emma Vigland
Fun hack.
- [67:24]
Sam Seder
Let's go, Brandon.
- [67:25]
Emma Vigland
Let's go, Brandon. Fun hack. Bradley, you want to say hello?
- [67:31]
Josh Jaeger
Sorry to disappoint everyone.
- [67:33]
Emma Vigland
I'm just a random guy. It's all the boys today.
- [67:36]
Mariana Sotomayor
Fundamentally false.
- [67:37]
Sam Seder
No. I'm sorry.
- [67:38]
Mariana Sotomayor
Women.
- [67:38]
Emma Vigland
Stop talking for a second. Let me finish.
- [67:41]
Mariana Sotomayor
Where is this coming from?
- [67:42]
Sam Seder
Dude?
- [67:42]
Emma Vigland
But. Dude, you want to smoke this? 7A.
- [67:46]
Mariana Sotomayor
Yes.
- [67:50]
Josh Jaeger
Hi me this week.
- [67:52]
Emma Vigland
Yes. Is this free?
- [67:57]
Sam Seder
Is it me?
- [67:58]
Josh Jaeger
Me?
- [67:58]
Emma Vigland
It is you. Is this me?
- [68:03]
Josh Jaeger
Oh, it's me.
- [68:04]
Emma Vigland
I think it is you. Who is you. No sound. Every single freaking day. What's on your mind?
- [68:12]
Mariana Sotomayor
Sports.
- [68:12]
Daniel Nakanian
We can discuss free markets and we can discuss capitalism.
- [68:16]
Emma Vigland
I'm going to go snow white. Libertarians. They're so stupid. Though common sense says. Of course.
- [68:21]
Sam Seder
Gobbled ego.
- [68:22]
Emma Vigland
We nailed him.
- [68:23]
Sam Seder
So. So what's 79 plus 21?
- [68:25]
Emma Vigland
Challenge. Matt.
- [68:26]
Daniel Nakanian
I'm positively quivering.
- [68:27]
Emma Vigland
I believe 96. I want to say. 8 5, 7, 2, 1 0. 83 5, 5, 011 half.
- [68:33]
Daniel Nakanian
3 8, 9, 11.
- [68:34]
Josh Jaeger
For instance.
- [68:35]
Sam Seder
$3,400. $1900. 5 4.
- [68:39]
Emma Vigland
$3 trillion. Sold. It's a zero sum game.
- [68:43]
Sam Seder
Actually. You're making me think less.
- [68:44]
Emma Vigland
But let me say this. You can call it satire.
- [68:49]
Josh Jaeger
Sam goes satire on top of it all. My favorite part about you is just
- [68:54]
Sam Seder
like every day, all day.
- [68:55]
Josh Jaeger
Like everything you do.
- [68:56]
Emma Vigland
Without a doubt. Hey, buddy. We see you. All right, folks, folks. Folks.
- [69:07]
Sam Seder
It's just the week being weeded out. Obviously.
- [69:09]
Emma Vigland
Yeah. Sun's out, Guns out. I. I don't know.
- [69:16]
Sam Seder
But you should know,
- [69:19]
Josh Jaeger
people just don't
- [69:20]
Matt Leckie
like to entertain ideas anymore.
- [69:21]
Emma Vigland
I have a question. Who cares?
- [69:25]
Daniel Nakanian
Our chat is enabled, folks.
- [69:27]
Emma Vigland
I love it.
- [69:28]
Sam Seder
I do love that.
- [69:31]
Emma Vigland
Gotta jump. You gotta be quick. I gotta jump. I'm losing it, bro. Two o'. Clock. We're already late and the guy's being a dick. So screw them. Sent to a gulag.
- [69:44]
Sam Seder
Outrageous.
- [69:45]
Emma Vigland
Like. What is wrong with you? Love you. Bye. Love you.
- [69:51]
Josh Jaeger
Bye.
- [69:52]
Emma Vigland
Bye.