In this episode, Ramona sits down with David Dean, a technologist with close to two decades inside complex organizations and the author of a new book, An Inbox Between Us. David calls himself a business AI realist. His core idea is that every company runs on two versions of itself: the official version in your job descriptions, SOPs, and leadership decks, and the unwritten contract, the side conversations and quiet workarounds where the job actually gets done. Most of that second version lives in your inbox, your chats, and your meeting transcripts, and most managers never get to see it clearly.

David and Ramona get into what changes when you stop asking AI to solve the problem and start using it to find the problem first.

In this conversation, we cover:

Why the work that matters most is the work no one documents
How silence, follow-ups, and stalled approvals are signals you can actually read
The difference between a technical problem and a behavioral one, and why we keep confusing the two
What makes a person irreplaceable when AI can mimic almost everything else
The messaging that decides whether your team sees AI as a threat or a relief

If you have ever rolled out a new tool and watched the same dysfunction show up wearing a new outfit, this episode is for you.

Watch on YouTube: The Manager Track on YouTube: https://youtu.be/mVWHPqdKRdU

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

An Inbox Between Us by David Dean: https://a.co/d/04RrQknz
David Dean’s website: davidchristopherdean.com

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