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The Marketing Architects
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Introducing a research-first podcast that builds revenue, not condos.
Answer questions on the biggest marketing trends and news with discussions based in marketing, psychology and economics research. Along the way, learn about marketing accountability, category leadership, brand-building and much more.
Featuring a team of experienced marketers whose blueprints for success are marketing strategies actually proven to work.
Answer questions on the biggest marketing trends and news with discussions based in marketing, psychology and economics research. Along the way, learn about marketing accountability, category leadership, brand-building and much more.
Featuring a team of experienced marketers whose blueprints for success are marketing strategies actually proven to work.
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Nerd Alert: Should B2B Brands Use Humor?
Yesterday00:08:47Summary readyWelcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We're breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob explore whether humor belongs in B2B advertising. They dig into new research that challenges the assumption that business buyers only respond to rational, no-nonsense messaging. Topics covered:[02:44] "To Humor or Not Humor: Buyers Evaluating the Effective Use of Humor in B2B Advertisements"[03:06] How often is humor used in B2B vs. B2C ads?[04:55] What four experiments with 305 B2B buyers revealed[05:45] Three conditions that determine when humor helps or hurts[06:47] Why humor is a door opener, not a deal closerTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast Resources: Swani, K., Gulas, C. S., & Dinsmore, J. (2025). To humor or not humor buyers? Evaluating the effective use of humor in B2B advertisements. Journal of Business Research, 200, 115632. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jbusres.2025.115632 Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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The Performance-to-Brand Playbook with Peter Sengenberger
3d ago00:29:01Summary readyA premium supplement brand saw retail sales jump 40% in six months after one strategic shift: switching from direct response TV to brand advertising. That single result changed 25-year media pro Peter Sengenberger's entire belief system. In this episode, Elena and Rob are joined by Peter Sengenberger, former demand gen and brand strategy lead at BambooHR. Peter explains why over-reliance on performance channels creates a "doom loop," why brand advertising builds what he calls "prepaid demand," and how his "depth of message" framework ranks media by the quality of impressions they deliver. Topics covered: [00:00] Performance marketing's "doom loop" and the case for brand advertising [04:00] Supplement brand case study: 40% retail lift from brand TV [09:00] The true cost of over-optimization [13:00] Why TV earns the highest trust and completion rates [16:00] CTV skepticism: what is overpromised and why[18:00] Programmatic media and the algorithmic house advantage[20:00] What direct response teaches every marketer To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter. Resources: Ogilvy on Advertising by David Ogilvy: https://www.amazon.com/Ogilvy-Advertising-David/dp/039472903X22 Immutable Laws of Marketing by Al Ries and Jack Trout: https://www.amazon.com/22-Immutable-Laws-Marketing-Violate/dp/0887306667/Grow with Peter Substack: https://growwithpeter.substack.com/Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
SummaryNerd Alert: Why Ads Reach Older Consumers Less
1w ago00:13:00Summary readyWelcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We're breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob examine why advertising consistently underperforms with consumers over 60 and find the answer has less to do with older brains and more to do with where marketers are pointing their media budgets. Topics covered: [00:02:00] "Differences in Advertising Effectiveness Across Age Groups[00:03:00] How researchers measured mental availability across 1,500 [00:04:00] The associative penetration gap between age groups[00:07:00] How the purchase funnel narrows sharply at 60-plus[00:08:00] Why newer product categories widen the confidence gap[00:10:00] Three practical takeaways for reaching older audiences To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast Resources: Mecredy, P., Stocchi, L., & Feetham, P. (2025). Differences in advertising's effectiveness across age groups. International Journal of Advertising, 44(2), 235–262. https://doi.org/10.1080/02650487.2024.2370678 Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
SummaryThe Death of the Funnel
1w ago00:26:01Summary readyConcern about short-termism among marketers jumped from 25% in 2022 to 55% in 2025. Budget allocation barely moved. The funnel may not be dead, but it might be damaging your brand.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob debate whether the marketing funnel still belongs in the boardroom. They unpack why the funnel persists despite strong evidence against it, how ad platforms reinforce flawed thinking for commercial reasons, and what alternatives actually work. Topics covered:• [01:00] Marketing Week article on why funnel reinvention is backfiring• [02:00] The funnel as a mental shortcut vs. a map of how people buy• [05:00] How ad platforms built funnel logic into their products for commercial reasons• [07:00] Categories where the funnel fits (and where it falls apart)• [11:00] The say-do gap: marketers believe in brand investment but budgets barely moved• [15:00] Tom Roach's alternative: building, nudging, and connecting• [18:00] How to plan media without the funnel• [20:00] What great creative looks like when you stop thinking in funnel stagesTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.Resources:2025 Marketing Week Article: https://www.marketingweek.com/reality-check-funnel-reinvent/Google Messy Middle Research: https://business.google.com/us/think/consumer-insights/navigating-purchase-behavior-and-decision-making/WARC Multiplier Effect Report: https://page.warc.com/the-multiplier-effect-reportThinkbox Profitability 2 Report: https://www.thinkbox.tv/profitability2Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
SummaryNerd Alert: When Consumers Punish Acquired Brands
2w ago00:08:35Summary readyWelcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We're breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob explore why consumers sometimes turn on brands after an acquisition, even when the product hasn't changed, and what marketers can do to soften the blow.Topics covered:[02:05] "When and Why Consumers React Negatively to Brand Acquisitions: A Values Authenticity Account"[03:00] What is values authenticity, and why does it matter?[04:05] Why the underdog effect isn't the real culprit[04:40] How a 15% stake can start eroding consumer trust[05:55] Five factors that can reduce acquisition backlash[06:55] What competing brand equities mean for marketersTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast Resources: Biraglia, A., Fuchs, C., Maira, E., & Puntoni, S. (2023). When and why consumers react negatively to brand acquisitions: A values authenticity account. Journal of Marketing, 87(4), 601–617. https://doi.org/10.1177/00222429221137817 Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Synthetic Research and the Future of Marketing with Peter Weinberg
2w ago00:42:20Summary ready95% of senior marketing leaders are already using or planning to use synthetic data within 12 months. So why are so many marketers still on the fence?In this episode, Elena, Angela, and Rob talk with Peter Weinberg, co-founder of Evidenza and former head of research at LinkedIn’s B2B Institute. They discuss where to start with synthetic audiences, how to assess accuracy, and why brand building still matters as AI changes how people search and decide.Topics covered:• [00:00] Introductions and what synthetic research actually is• [03:00] Why 95% of marketing leaders plan to use synthetic data within 12 months• [05:00] Synthetic research really replaces ignorance, not traditional surveys• [09:00] How to evaluate accuracy in synthetic research tools• [10:30] Where marketers should start: find the white spaces first• [16:00] Why AI can be creative and what 'temperature' means for marketers• [24:00] Why brand still matters in an AI-driven search world• [28:00] How Evidenza applied Ehrenberg-Bass principles to build their own brand• [34:00] Why more real-time data can lead to worse decisionsTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.Resources:2025 Qualtrics Article: https://www.qualtrics.com/articles/strategy-research/synthetic-research-breakthrough/Peter's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weinbergpeter/Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
SummaryNerd Alert: Your Strongest Distinctive Brand Asset
3w ago00:08:49Summary readyWelcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We're breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob explore the first large-scale benchmarking study of distinctive brand assets, and the results challenge some long-held assumptions about which assets actually stick in consumer memory. Topics covered:[01:35] "Shape-Based Assets Are Strongest: Benchmarking Distinctive Brand Asset Performance Across Industries"[02:55] What is a distinctive brand asset?[03:30] Fame vs. uniqueness: the two dimensions of distinctiveness[04:15] Why color is the weakest asset type[05:35] The bizarreness effect[06:00] When narrative assets outperform visual onesTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast Resources: Phua, P., Bali, L., Anesbury, Z., & Sharp, B. (2026). Shape-based assets are strongest: Benchmarking distinctive brand asset performance across industries. International Journal of Advertising. https://doi.org/10.1080/02650487.2026.2637295 Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Two-Thirds of American Marketers Would Fail a Basic Marketing Test with Mark Ritson
3w ago00:39:36Summary readyMore than 40% of American marketers can't define positioning. And 84% of those same marketers rate themselves as above average. Both can't be right.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Mark Ritson, marketing professor, consultant, and creator of the Mini MBA. Mark walks through his new research with Ipsos on US marketing knowledge, explains why formal training is the single biggest predictor of marketing competence, and shares the one concept every marketer should prioritize. The conversation also covers market orientation, how AI is reshaping marketing careers, and what it takes to stay relevant in the years ahead.Topics covered:• [01:00] Ipsos study reveals the US marketing knowledge gap• [04:00] Why formal education is the top predictor of marketing success• [08:00] Where marketers can find good training today• [13:00] Market orientation as the most important concept to learn• [17:00] How AI will reshape marketing careers and roles• [24:00] Byron Sharp and Mark Ritson's upcoming Cannes Lions session• [27:00] What the rise of AI means for the agency worldTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.Resources:2025 Adweek Article: https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/two-thirds-of-american-marketers-would-fail-a-basic-marketing-test/Mark Ritson's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markritson/ Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
SummaryNerd Alert: But AI Told Me So!
4w ago00:07:33Summary readyWelcome to Nerd Alert, a series of special episodes bridging the gap between marketing academia and practitioners. We're breaking down highly involved, complex research into plain language and takeaways any marketer can use. In this episode, Elena and Rob examine how large language models like ChatGPT recommend vendors. They unpack why visibility in AI-generated lists doesn't always mean credibility, and what marketers can do about it. Topics covered:[01:00] "Visibility is Not Equal to Credibility: Self-Promotion Bias in LLM Generated Recommendations"[02:30] Three patterns brands use to game AI rankings[03:50] What ChatGPT admitted when pushed for sources[04:30] Can better prompts fix the problem?[04:50] Takeaways for marketers and brands[05:30] The talent show analogyTo learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast Resources: Sangra, T. (2026). Visibility is not equal to credibility: Self-promotion bias in LLM-generated recommendations. She Innovates AI Research. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6598718 Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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The Psychology Marketers are Missing with Phill Agnew
May 2600:47:58Summary readyTelling people not to listen drove three times more podcast listeners than telling them why they should. That's behavioral science at work, and most marketers are barely scratching the surface of it.This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Phill Agnew, host of "Nudge," the UK's number one marketing podcast. Phill breaks down the hidden psychology that shapes how consumers think and buy, from why visible effort makes your brand more valuable to how scarcity can be applied in ways that go far beyond a "limited time offer." You'll walk away with principles you can apply immediately... and a few that might change how you think about advertising altogether.Topics covered:• [03:00] The labor illusion: why showing your work increases perceived value• [05:00] What System 1 vs. System 2 thinking means for marketers• [12:00] Costly signaling and why TV advertising commands trust• [17:00] The mere exposure effect• [24:00] Distinctiveness vs. differentiation and how to stand out• [33:00] Scarcity done right: the KFC Australia example.• [40:00] The Pratfall Effect and why admitting weakness builds brand likability.To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast or subscribe to our newsletter at marketingarchitects.com/newsletter.Resources:Buell, R. W., & Norton, M. I. (2011). The labor illusion: How operational transparency increases perceived value. Management Science, 57(9), 1564–1579. https://doi.org/10.1287/mnsc.1110.1376 2018 The Choice Factory Book: https://www.richardshotton.com/the-choice-factory Behavioral Business Book by Richard Chataway: https://www.amazon.com/Behaviour-Business-behavioural-science-business/dp/0857197347 Phill Agnew’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phill-agnew/Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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