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Matt Jones
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Billy
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Matt Jones
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Billy
Step up your game. With no annual contract required. It's the ultimate fan experience. Level up. For More on the ESPN app or at stream.espn.com sign up now. This is Interrupted by Matt Jones. All right, episode 19 of Interrupted by Matt Jones. Sponsored by Cornbread Hemp. This is the good life. We are sort of set up here right before college football begins next week. We've got Governor Andy Beshear is our 20th guest. I timed that perfectly. But before then, you know, Drew Franklin, we've been really busy doing some other things. But that doesn't mean that there's not like, events in the world. Like the world doesn't stop just because we have Pablo Torre.
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Matt Jones
No, I mean, we've been getting our butt kicked around here, but the world is still turning.
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Billy
There's still news. I mean, Mina Kimes is wonderful, but the news is still going to happen. So if we don't know the news, then I don't know what happens in the world. So. So we needed somebody to catch us up on the news. I looked around, Billy was the only person here. So I was like, billy, you can come up with 10 news items. This is the news. It's the news with. With Billy, our sports now. Little spoiler alert for his first couple of news items. I would get him to give me an idea of the direction he was going to this one. No idea. He can say anything right here and I have no clue what's going to come out. So if it's, if he picks good news items, he deserves all the praise. If he picks bad ones, it's on him.
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Matt Jones
I trust him. We've done, I think, is this fourth one now? I think so, maybe. I mean, he's got a good feel for the news. At this point, I would actually trust him over most news sources out there. So even though we don't know what's ahead, I'm just going to assume that Billy did his homework. These are the top headlines and they're not too depressing like they were a couple weeks ago. And it's.
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Billy
We're going to just be clear. The Trump administration has not in any way pressured Billy as to what news he's going to do. We have not heard from anyone, any official. This is Billy's news with no outside hindrance. So, Billy, we're ready to get started.
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Drew Franklin
All right, let's do it.
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Billy
Remember, you're going to go through 10. 10. Okay.
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Drew Franklin
Not as morbid as we have in the past as well. We've got some exciting things to get to. I do want to start. This is not one of our topics, but we do need to offer some condolences to everybody that was impacted by the shooting in Minneapolis over the week. Shooter killed two school children in a Catholic church and school when he shot through the church windows, wounding 17 others.
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Billy
Yeah, very sad. Feels like these. I think the saddest part of these shootings in some ways, besides obviously the tragedy of the death, is how they don't even really make a lot of news anymore. We just kind of move on like that. We've become. We've become numb to them. And in some ways, that's scarier than them actually happening is that they just sort of are like a blip on the radar. I mean, this, this had happened that night. Somebody mentioned it and I had not even heard it. That's. That's kind of worrisome to me.
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Matt Jones
That and just the places, you know, I've had people ask me in the past, don't you get nervous in Times Square, these big events? This is a church in Minneapolis with kids. Like, I mean, literally anywhere.
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Billy
Yeah. You're not really the first time it's.
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Matt Jones
Happened at a church.
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Billy
You're exactly right. Like, there's not a. There's no hiding from it. And, you know, this happens more and more in more and more random spots. So I agree with you. Prayers to all those folks. Now that does continue your leading with something sad.
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Drew Franklin
Needed to get that out of the way.
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Billy
Okay.
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Drew Franklin
To address that. Now it's time for more news.
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Billy
Okay. Okay. Let's. Let's get started.
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Drew Franklin
Well, sticking with the crime category, let's go to the federal crackdown on crime. It's time to make America safe again.
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Billy
Is this helping? Okay, so you're not doing any particular crime. This is just a broader crime.
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Drew Franklin
Exactly.
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Billy
We're trying to stop crime.
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Drew Franklin
We're talking about the deployment of National Guard troops in cities around the United states. There's been 2,200 National Guard members in D.C. with, with 700 plus arrests taking place since August 11th. And now Trump is threatening to take National Guard troops to Chicago. The Chicago mayor has said that Trump's efforts are uncoordinated, uncalled for, and unsound. Yet Chicago has topped the nation in homicides for 13 straight years.
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Billy
Homo. Are those same sex?
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Drew Franklin
I'm sorry, Homicides?
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Billy
What did you say you corrected it. What'd you say the second.
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Drew Franklin
No, I'd hate to, I'd hate to bring it up again, but we don't.
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Matt Jones
Want to be too sad, man. We don't say it again.
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Billy
The answer is homicides.
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Matt Jones
Not homocides or homicides that happen only at home. Hum.
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Billy
Yeah. It's not same sex sides and it's not.
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Matt Jones
Could be Chicago, not domestic or same sex.
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Drew Franklin
I don't have a rebuttal to that, but they're okay.
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Matt Jones
You're doing good.
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Drew Franklin
Okay.
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Matt Jones
We're just being us.
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Drew Franklin
Trump might be deploying National Guard troops to Chicago, to Baltimore. He seems to be on a kick right now.
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Billy
Yeah. What a waste of money. Just a complete waste of money. And then if he takes them to places beyond Washington D.C. troubling. So like legally, I think he probably has the authority to do this in D.C. because D.C. is basically a federal territory. I think it's unbelievably stupid because this is not what these people are trained for. You know, one of the things, I have some friends in law enforcement and they talk a lot about training. And when you throw somebody in to do something they don't have training for, you're asking for disaster. So you put military people in law enforcement training. It would be like if we just took all our police officers and put them on the front lines of the war, would they be better than me and Drew? Yes. Would it be smart? No. And they also, this is the thing, Drew. They also not putting them where the crime is. The crime is not on the National Mall. For people like me who've lived in D.C. the crime is in neighborhoods like Anacostia. And they're not going there. They're not going to where the crime is. They're giving up this thing that's like, make it look like we're doing something. And I will tell you, as someone who's traveled a lot in Europe, there are some countries, I mean, America's not the first place to do this, where they'll have military walking around. And I don't know, Drew, it actually makes me feel less safe. Yeah.
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Matt Jones
Like, what's going on?
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Billy
You know what I mean? Like, it actually makes me feel less safe to see dudes walk around with, with guns in military uniforms. I'm like, oh, wait a minute, where am I? So I think this is stupid. It's all for visual. It's all to make it look like Trump's tough on crime. He'll probably try to do it in Chicago and D.C. you know, I don't know if legally has the authority. I don't know. It's. It's going to make, it'll make an impact, but do you want. It's like a rock. Do you want to just stay there forever? You know what I mean? It'll make a short term impact, but long term it does nothing to the root causes of crime or poverty.
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Matt Jones
You mentioned the National Mall. I was just there a month ago and my biggest trouble, I was blowing bubbles with a little girl friend's daughter and she actually blew them a little bit to someone having lunch and I had to go over there and apologize like, sorry, she's only three now. She would be bubbles. Are you telling me that now there's just AK40 sevens all around where we.
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Billy
Were blowing bubbles, guns drawn on.
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Matt Jones
I felt pretty safe there, to be honest, before they stepped in.
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Billy
The National Guard is only supposed to be called in in like emergency emergencies and if you're not even going to send them where, like I saw them walking the streets of Georgetown. Have you ever been to Georgetown?
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Matt Jones
Nice.
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Billy
First of all, great shopping. I mean, unless you are a matcha store.
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Matt Jones
Oh, it's a bad day to be a matcha in Georgetown.
- [08:18]
Billy
You, you're, you're gonna be fine. Like Georgetown is the, is the yuppiest place on earth and you know, they've run out of things to do. So like they had them picking up trash. There's no, there's dignity in picking up trash. But like, I don't know if that's what we want our military to be doing on a daily basis in the middle of summer. So it's just a waste of time. I don't get up in arms about it like some Democrats do because amongst the things that the administration's doing I don't like. That's probably towards the bottom of it, but it's just a waste of time and money. That's my issue.
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Matt Jones
Completely agree. And then you get like the, the bickering you see online and everywhere else of like the mayors in these places are like, no, we don't want you. And then it just becomes a conflict.
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Billy
When you get there and they're. But the problem is the mayors of big cities, like our three biggest cities have three of the most unpopular mayors of all time, like Eric.
- [09:09]
Matt Jones
How they get the.
- [09:10]
Billy
Eric Adams has like an 8% approval rating and probably should be in prison. The. I think the guy in Chicago is Brandon Johnson. He's like 23 years old and, and hasn't exactly been crushed.
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Matt Jones
He's got some comments out There, I mean, he's not.
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Billy
And then the woman in California, Karen Bass, she had all the fire issues and she. So, so honestly, I mean, these mayors don't have a whole lot of, you know, they don't have a lot of ground to stand on. I will say this. One of the things Democrats are bad at. I know there's a lot of Democrats that listen to. One of the things we're bad at is we do deny people's feelings. So if somebody feels unsafe, Billy, and you just tell them, actually, statistically, crime is down 31%. And like, that can be true. But if they feel unsafe, they still feel unsafe. Right. And I do think we have to sit there and think, why is it people feel unsafe? One is something happens and it gets poured on your TV and you. And it makes it think it's everywhere. So that's one. But two is also. I mean, let's be real. There are parts of a lot of cities that don't feel safe to walk around. And that's in. That's not just in D.C. new York and Chicago. That's in Louisville and Lexington. And so we do have to do something about. I don't think it is pour the military into the streets. And then, by the way, it'd be like coming to Lexington and just putting all the military and Chevy Chase. That's not. That's not really doing anything.
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Matt Jones
What are they doing, Pilates?
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Billy
I mean, this is a renovation and it is out of control. So that's my, my take. But. But thank you for letting me know about the homo side.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, we'll work on that. Go to the second biggest news story of the week, and that's the engagement of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift.
- [10:57]
Matt Jones
I would argue that might be first.
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Drew Franklin
The three time super bowl champion and music superstar are now engaged after a joint Instagram post on Tuesday afternoon. Taylor joined the New Heights podcast just recently where they had over a million viewers at one time live.
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Billy
We were both one of them, right?
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
And now they are engaged. There is also some reports that it was done shortly after the interview, the podcast interview. They were actually getting these things ready while they were doing the interview. It has taken not just the country, but the world by storm. This could be one of the biggest weddings in the last couple decades.
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Billy
Biggest wedding in America. I mean, you know, we forget again, there are other countries. So like in India, I think like the President got married and it was, you know, everybody in the country watched. But in America, I think this, this could be the biggest. So I was On ESPN radio. When this broke, it was. It was fun to listen to people's reactions, but now we have more information. Okay. Need to break some things down. First of all, got married at his house.
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Matt Jones
Engaged. Engaged.
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Billy
Engaged. Asked her to marry, like, in the backyard. Good or bad? I mean, like, if it looked nice, your average backyard. Let me just, like, let's say I'm at my house in Louisville Next to my black, beat up buick. Just get down on one knee. Don't you think the woman might be like, could we have gotten out of the backyard?
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Matt Jones
Actually thought about this, though. It's Taylor. She can't go anywhere without basically sending secret service to sweep the place. So how do you. How do you set it up without letting her team and security know what's going on? And you're trying to surprise her. So almost. I don't even know where you would go except your backyard. Because if you were truly trying to do the surprise. And that's kind of how you go with the engagement. Because anything else, you would need to, like, notify so many people to set it up that I think maybe that was his only option because you can't take her anywhere.
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Billy
The Kelsey father. Yeah, he's given too much. Stop. You need to not talk as much.
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Matt Jones
I think he sees a moment and he's stepping in.
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Billy
He keeps talking about things. I wonder if they want all this out. He was like, yeah, he was going to do it a long time ago. They were going to do it at the old Charlie's. But he was sleepy. And it's like. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, he had gas that.
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Matt Jones
Night, so he didn't want to do it.
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Billy
Leaves. Leave some mystery. I think a lot of people wanted there to be mystery about it. And he's kind of, like, dumping all the information.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, I. I mean, I knew he was in the picture, but Donna, Kelsey has always been the star parent. I feel like the dad here sees this as his time to tell the story and get his own personal brand up a little bit.
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Billy
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Then, of course, there's a lot of things about the wedding, the prenup. If you're Taylor, you got to have a prenup, right? Yes. I mean, you got to have a good one.
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Matt Jones
Oh, absolutely.
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Billy
Travis. I get the feeling it's just a guess. Like, his lawyer is, like, a dude that is, like, in downtown Cincinnati.
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Matt Jones
Saul Goodman in a shopping center.
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Billy
Yeah. Like, yeah, I feel like his office is in a shopping center. And Travis might have seen him on television.
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Matt Jones
It's got the weed, the people behind.
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Billy
Him, behind his desk. So I feel like Travis's lawyer's gonna be a little off, overmatched in the negotiation.
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Matt Jones
I'll do you one better. I think Taylor's team could get a stack of papers, only put words on the top sheet, leave the rest blank, and slide it over. And he'd sign it and not even look at it.
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Billy
So when I was in high school.
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Matt Jones
And I would do the same.
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Billy
Stephanie. I'm not gonna say her last name, but Stephanie was a really good writer. And she believed her English teacher didn't read her papers, just gave her an A because she was such a good writer. So one time she wrote a paper. First two pages were her pages, like three through six were just Gone with the Wind, and then it went back to her page.
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Matt Jones
She's a good writer.
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Billy
If that's what she put in and got an A and no one brought it up, that's risky.
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Matt Jones
I did the opposite. I also copy and pasted into a paper, but I got a zero.
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Billy
Did you do Gone with the Wind?
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Matt Jones
I did.
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Billy
I think I did. I kind of. Yeah, that might be what happens with that. All right. Then you have the ceremony. Like, they have so many people, in theory, they could invite. Should they just elope?
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Matt Jones
I think they have to. Again, kind of with the engagement thing, it's just too much work to take her out in public for something like this. Also, I was thinking if I'm in Travis's shoes, like, okay, Pat Mahomes gets an invite. But where did. Where's your line? Yeah, you got to have a line in the locker room. So where do you cut that off?
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Billy
Because they're all going to come.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. And there's been a. I mean, with that dynasty, there's. There's some guys that have been there a long time that would probably think they're getting invited. But you can't invite the 52 man roster.
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Billy
Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly right. And you can't fight like the Kansas City Royals. No, definitely Buddy. Bianca Lana doesn't get.
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Matt Jones
I guess Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes would be in. But other than that, I think there's going to be some difficult conversations.
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Billy
There might be other dudes he's actually better friends with that just aren't as famous. Then you got all the people he played college football with at Cincinnati. Right. Then Taylor's friends.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah.
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Billy
Got all these singers.
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Matt Jones
Blake Lively.
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Billy
Are they still friends?
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Matt Jones
No, actually, they split. Good point.
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Billy
Okay, what about last name? She can't change her last name? Yeah. I mean, you can't. I mean, she's Taylor. I mean, he can change his last name.
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Drew Franklin
What, you think he would?
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Billy
I mean, it would be more appropriate.
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Drew Franklin
Would you go hyphen, or would you just take the entire last name?
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Billy
You know, I'm amazed. Like, I just want you to think about him first for a second. I mean, this dude had a VH1 dating show at one point. Like, people don't realize.
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Matt Jones
Kind of one of those trashy ones, too.
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Billy
It was a trashy one. It was like girls came out and showed their thongs on, and, like, now he's married to Taylor Swift. I mean, there's a great Saturday Night Live skit. Have you seen the thing that has come out since. There's a great Saturday Night Live skit where this was a few years ago. They had this woman who was, like, a poet and, like, an artsy poet, and she was dressed very conservatively, and she was like, this is my new boyfriend. And it was a guy with a hoodie, his hat backwards, and a football jersey going, whoa, she's smart. That's my girl. And I feel like that. And it was predicting Travis Kelsey and her. So his change is amazing if you think about it.
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Matt Jones
And he just wore a bracelet to her concert. And, like, on his podcast was like, man, I sure would like to meet this Taylor Swift person. Just completely shot and shot in public.
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Billy
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
And then she's like, okay, I'll give this guy a chance. Yeah.
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Billy
I mean, you know what?
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Matt Jones
A very public shoot.
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Billy
Your shot moment that with Blake Shelton didn't work.
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Matt Jones
Do you have a bracelet, though? I've enjoyed the memes that have come out of this. Like, what was her caption? The English teacher married the gym teacher. I saw one that was Belichick and Jordan, and it said, the gym teacher married the English student. Just the Internet has been very great with a lot of these, but it.
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Billy
Seems like everybody likes them. You know what I mean? You got the grumpy guy. Get her off my tv. But leave them aside. Was watching football. Get her out. Like, yeah, everybody. And then. And then they'll show, like, some woman with her. With her breasts out. They'll be like, that's what football for right there. But besides them, I feel like most people seem. I always thought Travis Kelsey was a goober, and I kind of like him. I thought the podcast. I was kind of sweet. The way he, like, takes Tay Tay. He seems so excited.
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Matt Jones
They got their pet names.
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Billy
And then, like, she's. She knows he's dumb. But she says to him, like, you're smarter than everybody thinks you are. Like, you know, and he's like, no.
- [18:29]
Matt Jones
It'S the classic art girl jock guides, you know, that's exactly what it is.
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Billy
It would be like a movie in the. We'll probably have the 90s.
- [18:37]
Matt Jones
What do you think about the bachelor party? Hey, we need a camera on Jason. Kelsey.
- [18:41]
Billy
He's got to be careful the entire time. He's got to be careful because I feel like, I mean, you want to talk about everyone catching you cheating. If he were to do one thing.
- [18:50]
Matt Jones
Oh, Taylor have snipers wherever they are.
- [18:53]
Billy
They don't. He doesn't. She doesn't need security. Like, every girl would be like, you, I can't believe you did this, Taylor. So he can't. I don't think he can have a bachelor party. I think he's just got to be like, look, I've lucked into this.
- [19:05]
Matt Jones
I need Jason Kelsey on a bachelor party for. For his brother.
- [19:08]
Billy
Yeah.
- [19:08]
Matt Jones
Maybe Jason will just go have one for him.
- [19:10]
Billy
Do you like the couple, Billy?
- [19:12]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
I was just a little surprised by the reaction by some of the engagement. I mean, we had females, you know, just stopping everything that they were doing, screaming, looking for the nearest swifty to.
- [19:22]
Billy
Hug the two hosts. The two host girls at KS Bar. They heard me say it on ESPN and they gave each other a hug and I was like, that is amazing. Like, if I'd looked at them and I said, I'm engaged, they'd have been like, oh, that's good. I'm like, I employ you. Can't you feign a little excitement, Taylor?
- [19:44]
Matt Jones
Matt, she's been through so much. She's had 48 breakups in like six years.
- [19:48]
Billy
So are they. When do they have a kid? I mean, everybody assumes this is Kelsey's last year playing because it's also his 13th year and she's going to do.
- [19:55]
Matt Jones
The super bowl and he's going to win the ring and they're going to walk off together.
- [19:58]
Billy
Yeah. And so do they. When do they have a kid? Do they have a kid? You got to assume they do, right? Yeah.
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Drew Franklin
I would expect after the wedding. Yeah.
- [20:06]
Billy
So you don't think it's a shotgun wedding?
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Drew Franklin
No, no, I don't think they hurry up and have a kid.
- [20:11]
Billy
It's very sweet. And yeah. Now that. Now it's. They're America's couple. Would you watch the wedding if it was live on television?
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Matt Jones
Absolutely. I mean, if I was in the middle of something, you know, I'm not going to, like, Clear my schedule for it. But if it's on. And I would pick that over anything else that I would be watching.
- [20:28]
Billy
Yeah, me too. I mean, just the people watching of itself.
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Matt Jones
I like love. I was rooting for love. They found it. Good for them.
- [20:36]
Billy
Yeah, good. Good for them. And they seem like good people. I do like the sort of way, you know, all these. The conservatives really don't like Taylor, so they ask him about it and they're like, I hope they have a happy life. And then they'll go, you know, she needs to learn to submit to her man. It's like no one shut up. Right? What if. Do you think. Can I make a prediction? If she has a wedding with a famous group of people, Trump will tweet that he's angrily that he wasn't invited.
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Matt Jones
See that?
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Billy
Wait and see. You want to put a bet on that?
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Drew Franklin
No, because I think he would do that.
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Billy
Even though he said awful things about her and vice versa, he will be angry that he doesn't get invited because it'll be like the biggest event. I mean, the biggest event since what? Like, I don't have one. I don't. I don't think we've had an American wedding.
- [21:29]
Drew Franklin
American, yes.
- [21:30]
Billy
Since the royal wed. I don't think we've had an American wedding like this ever in history. At least that I can. That I know of.
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Matt Jones
I don't remember any.
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Billy
I mean, in modern media, you know, you hear stories about weddings, like where the world would fall, like a Rockefeller daughter wedding. But that was like before tv, so it didn't exist.
- [21:48]
Matt Jones
And these are two people with completely separate audiences that are huge in themselves. You have NFL fans and swifties coming together.
- [21:55]
Billy
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Drew Franklin
All right. Speaking of. 45, 47. Let's go back to him. President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Monday requiring the Justice Department to investigate and prosecute people for burning the American flag. Back in 1989, the Supreme Court ruled that flag burning is legitimate political expression predicted by the US Constitution. But Trump says there's still room to prosecute flag burning. Prosecute flag burning? It is if it's likely to incite imminent lawless action or amount to fighting words. He wants to put people in jail for a year if they burn the American flag.
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Billy
Yeah. Okay, so let's say I give Donald Trump the best of motives for this. So it is. The Supreme Court has said you cannot ban flag burning. Period. End of story. So if he intends to stop flag burning, that's illegal. So you lose. The second part, though, is you are allowed to punish things that incite violent behavior. So if you say, like, hey, everybody, let's burn this flag and then go burn.
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Matt Jones
We're meeting at the courthouse to burn the flag.
- [24:08]
Billy
Exactly. And then take over. Yeah, but that was already illegal, Right. This executive order, like, it was, that was already illegal. So either he just tried to do something illegal or he just did something that was already illegal. You see what I'm saying? So it either is unconstitutional or it's meaningless.
- [24:30]
Drew Franklin
Right.
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Billy
So I don't really understand. I mean, this is the classic thing he does, which is he does something that either he doesn't have the power to do, and then when he gets pushed back on, it goes, no, there's already a law. So I do think, though, it's good to have the discussion about why burning the flag is illegal. I'm against it. I think if you burn a flag, you're being disrespectful and actually sort of, like, awful at the same time, though. That's what America is, is to allow people drew to do things like that, even if you personally don't like it.
- [25:04]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I mean, I'm not burning a flag. I'd rather you not burn one near me. Heck, I've had to get rid of a flag, and I wanted to take it seriously. You have to, like, take it to a flag recycling place. Like, Freddie Maggards explained this to me. You can't Just like throw a flag away.
- [25:16]
Billy
They have flag recycling.
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Matt Jones
If you're getting rid of a flag, where are they? I'm going to talk out of my rear end here, but maybe like a legion. I don't know. There's. There's places that you can't just throw an American Legion kind of. You can't just throw away a flag is my point. And that's not even burning. Like I even thought about how do I get rid of it.
- [25:33]
Billy
You're not supposed to.
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Matt Jones
So very anti burning flag. But you know, we do have this free speech thing. And as it's written, people have that right. Even though I don't think you should do it. And as you said Supreme Court said in 80 whatever, that's how it works.
- [25:44]
Billy
And it's funny to me that a lot of the people that get the angriest about things like flag burning, disrespecting the flag will also wear it like flag banana hammocks. Like. Oh yeah. Like when my. When my grandfather, when I was young, my grandfather did not believe you should wear an American flag on anything. He did not like when people wore the American flag like his T shirts or as shorts. I mean, he was a World War II veteran and he believed it was disrespectful. I think one time I had like American flag socks and he told me to take them off and he was like, you don't wear the American flag as an accessory. And he was very serious about it. And now you fast forward 30 some years and the people who claim to be the most patriotic do that the most. You know what I mean? They almost like do that sort of trivial stuff the most. So I don't know. I mean, but to me, the reason you don't burn a flag is why would you do something that intentionally upsets people for no valid reason? It's the same. I feel the same way about people who would like, want to burn a gay. Like a gay rights. Why would you do that? What are you accomplishing? Are you just trying. You're just trying to make these people mad. So feel the same way about burning the Jewish flag or the Palestinian flag or the American flag. Like, why are you just trying to make people mad? You can make your point without doing it completely.
- [27:10]
Matt Jones
Agree. We all know the answer. People get the satisfaction of the attention.
- [27:15]
Billy
Yeah. They just want to own the other side. And I hate that. Like, why do we want to intentionally make other people mad? Unless they're Louisville fans, I'll burn that flag. At which point then it's perfectly okay.
- [27:32]
Matt Jones
I'm guilty of what you said. And I honestly didn't even realize until someone pointed out to me years ago, but, like, I have a onesie that's an American flag. You go to the lake, American flag, swim trunks everywhere. I never even really I do now, but it was brought to me. I think my mom even said it. I think she might even brought my grandfather. Like, this wouldn't fly with a lot of people.
- [27:49]
Billy
A generation or two ago, that was that. That part of culture seems to have just gone away. But it was. But my grandfather was very, very serious about it. That, that you just. That was not something you would do. And it's just amazing how that is just. You don't ever hear anybody say that anymore.
- [28:06]
Matt Jones
And I'm guilty as you can. The US Play in the World cup and I've got five flags.
- [28:10]
Billy
Everyone does it.
- [28:11]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [28:11]
Billy
Yeah. And that's. It's just interesting. So I think also that shows how the power of symbols changes. To my grandfather, you wearing an American flag on your T shirt would have been as disrespectful a thing as you could do. Now that same symbol, people would look at and say, that's one of the most respectful things you can do. And it's literally the exact same action.
- [28:37]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Now we put World War champs on.
- [28:39]
Billy
Top of the flag and we're at. And that's. It's just funny how so? I would say to people, when you want to get really angry about somebody doing something, think about that flag thing and think about how the same action time has just completely changed in people's minds what it means. So what's next?
- [28:54]
Drew Franklin
Well, there was an important update this week to this next news story. After 55 years, the popular restaurant Cracker Barrel decided to do some rebranding.
- [29:02]
Matt Jones
That's working. That's working.
- [29:03]
Drew Franklin
Minimalist approach inside and all. Also changing the logo, removing the old timer, Uncle Herschel from the credit card.
- [29:10]
Billy
That was technically actually Uncle Herschel.
- [29:13]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [29:13]
Billy
Okay. I didn't know. I didn't know that they act. That was actually who that was.
- [29:16]
Drew Franklin
In a matter of a few days, the company stock dropped 14% and lost $100 million in value.
- [29:22]
Billy
Guess who made money from that?
- [29:24]
Drew Franklin
You.
- [29:24]
Billy
As soon as I saw it. Drop all these things. It's so stupid. People always sell the stock of one of these protest companies. They always go right back up bothered. It happened on Target, happened on Bud Light, on Budweiser and Hazard Bush happened on this. It did. I think. I'm not going to say the amount But Uncle Matt made some money just going, this will go back up. So. And what? Go ahead.
- [29:48]
Drew Franklin
Oh, well, just this Wednesday, Cracker Barrel announced that they are bringing back the old logo. Many said it was woke that they changed the logo and the interior. There was a lot of backlash, but they have now since changed back to the old Logan.
- [30:03]
Billy
So why was it woke? That's one thing I never understood about it. I understood why it was bad because it was bad. Like that was a bad change. Why was it woke?
- [30:12]
Drew Franklin
Don't know. I think woke is a term for like being overly politically correct. And so maybe people looked at taking the old timer off, as you know.
- [30:23]
Billy
I mean, could it have been Billy, I'm just spitballing here. Could it have been that a restaurant didn't want an 85 year old man any longer to be the symbol of the restaurant? Yeah, it could be like I don't. That wouldn't be a crazy thing to think.
- [30:42]
Drew Franklin
No, but this is.
- [30:43]
Billy
I think it was a poor idea because the new logo sucked.
- [30:46]
Drew Franklin
Well, this is also a restaurant that a lot of it has is has to do with the ambiance. Right. You go in the things on the wall, the old time feels.
- [30:54]
Billy
But are they supposed to continue to market to people until their entire audience dies?
- [31:02]
Drew Franklin
Well, you're posing an interesting question.
- [31:05]
Billy
I mean you could understand how that CEO would think a lot of our audience. The days of people eating biscuits and gravy is going down. Right. You don't just see people every morning like my grandfather getting up and eating biscuits and gravy. So maybe we need to. You can see why somebody would think that.
- [31:26]
Matt Jones
Sure.
- [31:26]
Drew Franklin
In a vacuum.
- [31:27]
Billy
In a vacuum. That's exactly right. What did you think of it?
- [31:31]
Matt Jones
I just. I guess I wasn't designed like everyone else. I am missing the part of my brain that cares what a corporation is doing. Bud Light, Target, Sydney Sweeney, Cracker Barrel, Chick Fil A. I can't imagine caring. I genuinely can't. It has no effect on your life.
- [31:48]
Billy
I agree.
- [31:49]
Matt Jones
It does not matter at all. Unless you work for Cracker Barrel.
- [31:52]
Billy
Like why do you care what Cracker.
- [31:54]
Matt Jones
Barrels logo looks like? Okay, maybe you like it and a little bit of nostalgia and you'll miss it. But this outrage and like being debated on new shows, who actually cares what Cracker Barrels logo really looks like?
- [32:04]
Billy
I mean the answer to your question is no one. Exactly. The reason they do it is the outrage. The outrage is the thing. And it used to be that my side, the left was the party of outrage. We got so angry about Everything. And we looked like sticks in the mud. We'd get mad about it like we were the Outrage Kings. And then somehow in the last few years, it's actually flipped. And now the Outrage Kings and Queens are on the ride. Now Sydney Sweeney shows we still got it in us. We still can do it. But I'm with you. I think it's so stupid. Why does anyone care? Why? Why would you care? Go back to the Bud Light thing. Why would you care who advertises for Bud Light? Why would you? I don't. I don't remember. Why were people mad at Target?
- [32:58]
Drew Franklin
I'm not sure.
- [32:59]
Matt Jones
Probably a rainbow.
- [33:00]
Billy
I don't know.
- [33:00]
Drew Franklin
Like, yeah, Rainbow Flag, something. Trans influencer. That was Bud Light, I believe.
- [33:05]
Billy
But I can't. And then the Sydney Sweeney thing. Jeans. Jeans. Okay. Who cares about American Eagle?
- [33:14]
Matt Jones
I'm glad all these people have perfect lives where they can use their brain to worry about a corporation's logo or their commercial. Go play with your kids. Go get a job. Find something to care about other than a business and their logo.
- [33:27]
Billy
We have a new burger at KS Bar, the Bacon Jam Burger. Are we gonna get canceled for calling it the Bacon Bam Adebayo Burger?
- [33:38]
Drew Franklin
You might, if Bam does something not kosher in the news. Matt, you know I can't be responsible.
- [33:44]
Billy
For Bam's personal life. It's just a pun.
- [33:48]
Drew Franklin
You just have to change the menu, I guess.
- [33:49]
Billy
I mean, nobody says, hey, you did Chili Gillespie. Billy drinks too much.
- [33:54]
Drew Franklin
You know, Trump added fuel to this fire by tweeting about Cracker Barrel.
- [33:57]
Matt Jones
Imagine that. Until Cracker Barrel walks in my house and kicks over my tv, I don't care what they're doing. They have good food. I've been there twice in the last two months.
- [34:05]
Billy
You have?
- [34:05]
Matt Jones
If every Cracker Barrel fell off the earth right now, my life would not.
- [34:09]
Billy
When's the last time you've been to Cracker Barrel?
- [34:11]
Drew Franklin
Like a year and a half ago.
- [34:12]
Billy
And you said recently?
- [34:13]
Matt Jones
About three weeks. Finley, Ohio.
- [34:15]
Billy
And was it good?
- [34:16]
Matt Jones
It was good. But also, if I never ate it again, I would be okay.
- [34:19]
Billy
Yeah, I used to. When? Again now? When I was a kid, Cracker Barrel was like, you know, you'd sit. And you'd wait outside and sit on those rocking chairs and go, joan, you know, Blondell, party of three. And like, I now. I don't know. I don't think about it a lot.
- [34:36]
Matt Jones
My old Timer's breakfast was pretty good.
- [34:37]
Billy
I do love their hash brown casserole. Gift shops have kind of gone away in my mind is importance now that I could get that Conway Twitty eight track tape online if I want. I don't need to buy it in the store.
- [34:51]
Matt Jones
I used to love to go in there and get a Stewart's Old Fashioned cream soda.
- [34:56]
Billy
Those are good.
- [34:57]
Matt Jones
But I used to think only Cracker Barrel help.
- [34:59]
Billy
Now I can get. Now you can get them anywhere.
- [35:01]
Drew Franklin
Target opted to forego DEI initiatives. That was the controversy.
- [35:06]
Billy
No, I thought it was.
- [35:07]
Matt Jones
No, they had some in the front of the store. I thought.
- [35:09]
Billy
Yeah. So I think that Target's been one that's unluckily been hit by both sides. I think Target initially the right was mad that Target was gay. And then to show they weren't gay, they got rid of dei. And then that made, I think, black. Black people angry.
- [35:26]
Drew Franklin
Just can't win, I guess then they.
- [35:28]
Billy
Couldn'T win, but just they couldn't get on Target.
- [35:31]
Drew Franklin
Oh, where's my bell? It's in the other studio.
- [35:34]
Matt Jones
I think to have an opinion about Cracker Barrel in this place is we need to see a statement that you're there five times a week and it actually matters to me. If you're commenting and you haven't been there in six months. Shut up.
- [35:43]
Billy
There's a good point. Like, I don't really have strong opinions about Hardee's. I don't get worked up. Haven't been there in 10 years. I think it would be rude of me to have a strong opinion about Hardee's.
- [35:52]
Matt Jones
I used to love oh, Charlie's. Great biscuits, great soup. They've been gone a long time. You know what? The world kept turning. It's a restaurant. There's others. We'll all be okay.
- [35:59]
Billy
So let's quickly rank our hashtag. Cracker Barrel Foods. Hash brown casserole, number one. Number two for me. Biscuits and gravy. Gravy. Gravy. And then number three. Maybe a little controversial, Chicken and dumplings.
- [36:13]
Matt Jones
Oh, not controversial at all. That's in my number one conversation.
- [36:17]
Billy
What's your number?
- [36:18]
Matt Jones
I will say you can get dumplings without the chicken as like a side item. Sometimes I do that. I think their gravy is a little overrated. I'm going to go. I usually end up with some pancakes. Okay, so I'll say pancakes. I agree with you on the hash brown. Hash brown casserole. And then probably the dumplings. I'll throw in the cornbread. If I'm having good cornbread.
- [36:37]
Billy
Yeah. If it's not dry. Sometimes they make it dry. But yes.
- [36:40]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, I'm going to be pretty Unoriginal here, but biscuits and gravy is my number one. I think the cornbread is my number two. And then I've had good steak and eggs there.
- [36:48]
Billy
Okay. They also have, I think Shannon mentioned on our regular show country ham, you can't get that very. You can't get country ham in many places. And that's pretty good.
- [36:57]
Matt Jones
If I may pay him another compliment since I kind of went off on people who care about Cracker Barrel, if you get a meal there, you can order $5 to go meals. They're like a full dinner for $5. I'll get like four or five of them. On my way out of Cracker Barrel.
- [37:08]
Billy
We have some breaking news. One in I Dream of Genie, star Barbara Eden reveals. Jeannie and Tony were never intimate. That came up as a text alert from Entertainment Weekly.
- [37:24]
Matt Jones
Were people sitting around talking about that.
- [37:27]
Billy
Show was on TV 60 years ago. I thought I would have sworn Barbara Eden was dead. No offense to her.
- [37:34]
Drew Franklin
Well, it's the news.
- [37:35]
Billy
There you go. So basically, the genie and the soldier, they never fornicated.
- [37:43]
Matt Jones
Well, what am I going to do now?
- [37:45]
Billy
That was a lot of the Roman. That was a lot of. The whole point of the show was.
- [37:48]
Matt Jones
Do people think they were actually.
- [37:49]
Billy
Well, they were. There was like sexual tension between them.
- [37:52]
Matt Jones
I didn't know. Was there like rumors of stuff or.
- [37:55]
Billy
Do people not know the ass wonder did it happen? Yeah.
- [37:57]
Matt Jones
She wanted to clear the air.
- [37:59]
Billy
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- [38:33]
Drew Franklin
I promise this is my favorite. My, my last Donald Trump story. This is number five. Yes, the Apprentice is back. Trump has made some questionable moves over the last week. He has fired the Federal Reserve. Governor Lisa Cook accused her of lying on financial documents. She is now suing to try to keep her job. And in the same week, he decided to fire the CDC director, Dr. Susan Manez, who was just hired on July 31. So she didn't even make it a month before Donald Trump fired her.
- [39:01]
Billy
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what you say. Like, he fires all these. Anybody who has what, in my opinion, seems like a reasonable opinion, like, oh, we might want to invest in health. Fired. You know, Federal Reserve. I mean, Federals are. Most people don't understand what it. What it does, to be honest with you. It's even hard for me to understand. But it's pretty clear it needs to be independent, needs to make decisions not based on politics. He's trying to. In that, you know, I mean, it's almost comes to a point, like, it's hard for me with him because he does so much stuff that would, like, bring down other presidencies, and it's just a Wednesday for. For him, you know, and it's probably a smart strategy. It kind of overwhelms you with stuff, and then it's hard to focus on anything. So he's effective at that. But I think these are bad things. It's boring as to why I think they're bad, especially the Fed, but I don't think it's good.
- [39:59]
Matt Jones
My thing is, I'm all for let's get healthy. What do we call it? Maha Ma. Maha. Is that it? That's it, y', all, for making America healthy. I'll even wear the hat. But let's just. Let's. Let's include a little bit of science, just a little bit.
- [40:13]
Billy
When you think of healthy, do you really think of rfk?
- [40:16]
Matt Jones
No, but I would like people to be healthy. I just think we should.
- [40:20]
Billy
I mean, I don't understand how we got to rfk. Of all the people involved in the Trump world, the most insane is rfk. And he's like, he is. I mean, the rest of the people are Rhodes scholars. And I know because I. His father is like my hero. His father, Bobby Kennedy. To me, like, if I were to say to you, who's the person whose political life I most admire now? His personal life was. Whatever it was, but his political life, it would be Bobby Kennedy. I mean, he's the guy who, before he got shot, went into Appalachia, really, for the first time and highlighted a lot of the problems there. He did the same thing in the inner city. He went to Indian reservations. He was like. Exactly. And the fact that this dude is his son and he has no medical training. None. And the sentence, he's in charge of health and he has no medical training. That should end the conversation right there.
- [41:30]
Matt Jones
No matter who it is. That should be a full stop.
- [41:32]
Billy
Who it is. It could be the smartest person in the world. That should end the conversation. And yet we let him. I mean, he said he was walking through the airport and he saw children, and it looked like they. Their mitochondria hurt. What. What does that even mean?
- [41:56]
Matt Jones
All that training he has, he can spot those things.
- [41:58]
Billy
Children are, by every measure healthier now than they've been in the entire existence of human history. I mean, you realize it was only, like, 50 years ago that the average lifespan was or 70 years ago that the average lifespan was, like, 25 years younger than it is.
- [42:14]
Drew Franklin
Didn't realize that.
- [42:16]
Billy
I mean, used to be people, like, died. First of all, you go back 200 years ago, people were dead at my. Like, no one was my. I was. I would have been 100 in the 1700s at my age. And I just. I cannot believe America has allowed Robert Kennedy to be in charge of health. Robert Kennedy is. They don't even let him go to the family reunions.
- [42:41]
Drew Franklin
You think it's a last name thing where he got his job?
- [42:43]
Billy
No, I think it's because he represents this conspiracy. He was part of the conspiracy theory left, okay? Robert Kennedy people were like Hollywood, like wellness people, etc. And Trump was able to win them over by bringing him in. But he's a kook. He is a kook.
- [43:07]
Matt Jones
If you had to have a position, it should have been something like the railroad, maybe give him some training wheels. We should have gone straight to hell.
- [43:13]
Billy
Put him on the railroad.
- [43:15]
Matt Jones
Yeah, just not straight to health. Surely there was another commissioner he could have practiced at.
- [43:19]
Billy
And, you know, I used to always make fun of his voice. And then I had a woman write me and say, you know, you always advocate not making fun of people for things they can't help. And. Okay, fair enough. But he doesn't seem to me like the person that can walk through the airport and tell who's healthy and who's not.
- [43:37]
Matt Jones
Didn't he, like, dump a bear in Central park or something?
- [43:40]
Billy
He, like, swims in whale blubber, he kills bears and then leaves them in the park.
- [43:47]
Drew Franklin
But we're getting that die out.
- [43:49]
Billy
Okay, One positive thing. But, you know, like, one of the things people in the Maha movement are really for is getting chemicals off of farms, which, by the way, is good. We need as few pesticides and things as we possibly can. Some of them we have to have. But. Well, he just ended all regulation of that stuff. Mr. Maha ended all FDA regulation of pesticides. Or most. Not all, but most. How's that, Ma?
- [44:19]
Drew Franklin
Is that supposed to help farmers?
- [44:21]
Billy
No, it's pro corporate interest. I mean, he is just as crooked as anybody else. I mean, the Kennedys, God love them, a lot of them are crooked. So, anyway, he just drives me nuts. What's next?
- [44:36]
Matt Jones
He probably did the Cracker Barrel logo.
- [44:38]
Drew Franklin
Could be we'll blame him. Let's go to some world news. This Wednesday was the 80th anniversary of Spain's famous Tomatina event, the tomato street fight.
- [44:48]
Billy
I've heard of that. Yeah.
- [44:49]
Drew Franklin
That took place on Wednesday. 120 tons of overripe tomatoes are shipped from the town of Bueno. 22,000 participants. The event was inspired by a food fight between local children who pelted each other with tomatoes back in 1945. There's no teams, no points, and no referees. There's just one rule. To avoid injuries, people are encouraged to squash their tomatoes before throwing them.
- [45:12]
Billy
Have you ever seen video of this?
- [45:13]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [45:14]
Billy
It's awesome.
- [45:14]
Matt Jones
Just soaked, right?
- [45:16]
Billy
It's awesome. When I was in. It's in, what, mid August? Is that right?
- [45:20]
Drew Franklin
Yeah, it was just. Just this Wednesday.
- [45:22]
Billy
I came home last year right before because I even considered extending my trip for a week because I wanted to go. And it's in. What was in that town in Spain?
- [45:32]
Drew Franklin
Well, actually, the tomatoes are from the town Bueno. I'm not sure of where it's at.
- [45:37]
Billy
Yeah, it's in a. It's in a town. I can't remember the name of it, but I think that looks fun. I like little stupid festivals in towns. I think they're cool.
- [45:45]
Matt Jones
Who cleans that up, though? I mean, it's not a small. It's not a small food fight.
- [45:49]
Drew Franklin
So it's. They're like.
- [45:50]
Matt Jones
Yeah, tripping over tomatoes.
- [45:51]
Drew Franklin
It's done right after. And the citric acid from the tomatoes actually helps clean the street.
- [45:56]
Matt Jones
Look at this.
- [45:57]
Billy
So the tomato. Well, then what cleans the citric acid? People.
- [46:01]
Drew Franklin
I mean, there's just a whole group of people that clean it up.
- [46:05]
Billy
Do you know that? Are you making that up?
- [46:06]
Drew Franklin
I know the citric acid thing.
- [46:08]
Billy
How do you know?
- [46:09]
Drew Franklin
It was in the news article.
- [46:11]
Matt Jones
The news, man. It's the news.
- [46:12]
Drew Franklin
It's the news.
- [46:15]
Billy
A lot of towns, they have their thing, right? Everybody has their thing. I went to Siena, Italy, to the Il Paglio, which is one of the most fun things I've ever been to, where the horses race through the streets. Have you ever seen that?
- [46:27]
Drew Franklin
I've seen a video of that.
- [46:28]
Billy
They do it twice a year. Each neighborhood has its horse, right? That represents the neighborhood. It's like six, seven neighborhoods. And they get in the town square, they Shut off the town and the horses run in a circle around the town square. The entire town either gets in the center or like is up in the balconies and all that. I was in the center. I had to stand there for hours waiting on it. It with tall. We watched it. The horse. It was very cool. So whichever neighborhood wins that night, the city pays for them to have an all night festival.
- [47:02]
Drew Franklin
That's awesome.
- [47:02]
Billy
And so we were just like wherever, whatever neighborhood wins, we're going. And that party was amazing. Like just an amazing party. They do it twice a year. It's called Il Paleo in Siena, Italy, which is a beautiful city anyway. But I loved it. I love things like.
- [47:18]
Matt Jones
Yeah, I want to go to some of those. What's the one where they're just like rolling down the hill? I don't know how people die down in Scotland.
- [47:24]
Billy
Yeah, the cheese.
- [47:24]
Matt Jones
I was in Ireland one time and I missed it by a few days. But they have one. I can't think of the name but they like bowl but like the whole town is their bowling alley. So you'll start at the top of a hill and roll the ball as far as it can go and it'll roll down and kind of fall off to the side and you go pick it up and roll it again. But they're like going over the whole town and the whole town's involved. So any of these little events, mostly other countries, look like a lot of fun.
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Drew Franklin
Except the bulls through the street one. I'm going to avoid that one.
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Matt Jones
I do that one.
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Billy
Well, I've been to this town. Right. But I didn't the.
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Drew Franklin
You didn't run in front of the bulls.
- [47:56]
Billy
Pamplona. And I was there during the running the bulls. But I didn't actually see like they do it early in the morning. They do it at like 7am so because people stay up and drink all night and then they run early in the morning. So I was there in the afternoon. Hubby and Sarah and I went and it was. I mean they're just partying and it was crazy. Like you couldn't move. And it was. And everybody was like this is nothing tonight in the morning. Oh my goodness. What?
- [48:28]
Matt Jones
I like your accent. That was really good.
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Drew Franklin
I like that.
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Billy
I'd like to think about that. Is that could be any country.
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Matt Jones
Is that Poland?
- [48:36]
Drew Franklin
Little French.
- [48:37]
Billy
It is. How do I say. How do you say all accent?
- [48:46]
Matt Jones
You just walk around the Epcot center at every station.
- [48:51]
Billy
The good thing about people from other countries, especially in Europe, is they will look at you and within 20 seconds they'll go, how do you say you're doing the hand?
- [49:02]
Matt Jones
Our listeners can't see it, but you got to have the hand up.
- [49:06]
Billy
Baseball. How do you say, like you've just done an impersonation of everyone in Europe.
- [49:14]
Matt Jones
Your impersonations are growing. For many years, you only had woo.
- [49:17]
Billy
I only had woo. That's it. Now diversified.
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Drew Franklin
All right, news story number six. There's no place like the Sphere. The 1939 hit movie the wizard of Oz will be at the Las Vegas Sphere this week. The 160,000 square foot screen will have the movie. It's $104 per ticket. To experience the mov. Feel the wind of the tornado. They have 12 foot tall fans that hit you during the movie. You can feel the ground shake. The chairs are programmed to move during certain parts of the movie. But the. The concept is called AI Outpainting, where they fill the rest of the screen with AI because it's obviously not going to be the same size movie that it was shot back in 1939. But also they have changed the movie from 102 runtime to 75 minutes. So they're changing quite a bit of the movie.
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Billy
They've cut a bunch of the movie.
- [50:06]
Drew Franklin
They've cut a lot of it. Yes.
- [50:08]
Billy
Yeah, a lot of it's kind of boring, though. People forget, like, everybody think. But a lot of the wizard of Oz, you try to watch that now, it's a hard thing to get through.
- [50:14]
Drew Franklin
A little redundant at times.
- [50:15]
Billy
Yeah. Oh, by the way, all old movies are like that. You watch a movie before 1970, just try to watch it. You can't. They're so slow. You know, like watching basketball. Yeah, it is kind of like the white people playing basketball in that era. That's how every movie is. They just. It's so. I know everybody go, oh, that's a cli. You know, they're like, oh, that's a classic. Go try to watch Citizen Kane. And try to look me in the eye and say, that's the best movie of all time.
- [50:41]
Matt Jones
I mean, it can be a classic, but I mean, I'm gonna sit down and watch it in the year 2025. I can just be like, yeah, sure, that's classic. Looks good on the show.
- [50:47]
Billy
It's so slow. But anyway, would you want to see the wizard of Oz in the Sphere?
- [50:51]
Matt Jones
I want to go to the Sphere really bad. To the point. My birthday was in June and we were planning to go to the Sphere, whatever the show was, we were just gonna go and it was Kenny Chesney. I'm like, I do have limits. But I tried to catch Backstreet in July. Might try again in December. Unlikely. I got to get to the Spear. I. Sphere. I really want to go. I wanted to see Dead and Company.
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Billy
And that's the one that. Probably best. That would have been the whole thing, right?
- [51:13]
Matt Jones
I've been out there many times. It's being built. I've walked by it when it had, like, the eyeball thing before. I've seen it so many times. I want to go to the damn place. But it's. It's hard to. It's a costly ticket. Whoever you're seeing.
- [51:25]
Billy
I kind of feel like it's gonna give me a seizure. I'm being dead serious. Like, I can't. You know, If I go into a. Like, a club and then it's spinning and the lights are flashing on and off, I kind of. I have to shut my eyes sometimes, like, when the lights are blinking like that, I feel like I would be. I feel like I would. Spheres would be dangerous for me. But I do think it would be cool to be sort of encapsulated like that.
- [51:52]
Matt Jones
The wizard of Oz, when I saw, like, in a tornado. Everyone in the crowd, their hair's blowing, and there's, like, pieces of paper flying.
- [51:58]
Drew Franklin
Yeah. There's fans.
- [52:00]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [52:00]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [52:01]
Matt Jones
So that looks kind of wild. They've added to it a little bit.
- [52:04]
Drew Franklin
I. I remember my first IMAX movie. That was insane. So I imagine this would be a lot of the same, right? Just times 10.
- [52:09]
Matt Jones
I saw the.
- [52:10]
Billy
It's all the way around. You, like, you can't. You know, now. Actually could at least look to the side. I don't think you can do that.
- [52:15]
Matt Jones
I saw the. The Muppets. Muppets 3D. Maybe at Disney World when I was a kid, but in the movie, they had, like, a bunch of, like, a mice outbreak, and they're just running all over the ground, and then they blew air on your feet. It was the most terrifying thing imaginable. You just. Everyone in the. Like, on the screen, they make you feel like they're a bunch of mice running into the theater, but then they blow air on the back of your legs.
- [52:38]
Billy
And I thought you meant you went to the movie, but the theater itself had a mice outburst.
- [52:42]
Matt Jones
Well, they wanted you to think there was. And they hit you with this air, and you could feel every set of legs in that place. And people scream, shoot up in the air, thinking they were actually in the theater with us.
- [52:51]
Billy
I think theaters and stuff Are gonna have to do more stuff like that. Like, people just don't go to the theaters like they used to. And I would, like, I wish I could go to one at the Sphere, but I don't know if I'd be able to. I just. I think it would. You can't get away. You know what I mean?
- [53:07]
Matt Jones
Yeah. You're committed.
- [53:08]
Billy
You're in.
- [53:09]
Matt Jones
And so I've enjoyed Kevin Richardson doing all his L's down. I've felt like every time Backstreet does a show, we get tweeted a video of him doing a catch chant or an L's down in the sphere. So he's representing BBN in there.
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Billy
Let's go. All right, is this number eight?
- [53:23]
Drew Franklin
Eight. Number eight. The 2025 Global Peace Index dropped this week, boys. And we have a list of the safety, safest countries in the world.
- [53:32]
Billy
What does that mean, the Global Peace Index?
- [53:34]
Drew Franklin
It's a international travel thing where we rank the. Or not we. Somebody ranks the safest countries in the world based on 23 different metrics.
- [53:47]
Billy
Okay.
- [53:47]
Drew Franklin
External conflicts and terror.
- [53:50]
Billy
Okay, so can I make some guesses?
- [53:51]
Matt Jones
Sure.
- [53:52]
Drew Franklin
We only have the top 10 and then the bottom five.
- [53:55]
Matt Jones
I feel good about one.
- [53:56]
Billy
All right, well, let me. I'll do. I'll get to the bottom five in a second. Top ten. I feel like Switzerland's one of them.
- [54:00]
Drew Franklin
Switzerland is number five.
- [54:02]
Billy
Okay. Iceland.
- [54:06]
Drew Franklin
Iceland is number one. Good job.
- [54:10]
Billy
Yeah. I mean, it's isolated. Nobody. Nobody's got a beef.
- [54:13]
Matt Jones
One letter off there. Is Ireland on there?
- [54:15]
Drew Franklin
Number two.
- [54:16]
Matt Jones
Look at that.
- [54:16]
Drew Franklin
Very good.
- [54:17]
Billy
Little. It's a little surprising to me. Ireland is on there. Is the safest. Like, I mean, they. They did have a history of, like, while ago, hundreds of years of fighting with England and they. I guess they're just over it.
- [54:29]
Matt Jones
I drove all over Ireland. Never felt safer.
- [54:32]
Billy
Really?
- [54:32]
Matt Jones
Yeah. Might be a little. Little bar fight, you see breakout that you're not involved in. But other than that, I was all over the place.
- [54:38]
Billy
Ireland's a surprising country. Like, Ireland was, like, the first country to recognize Palestine. Like, so I think people don't realize kind of Ireland's probably not the way you would stereotype it to be Luxembourg. No, it's probably not big enough to be on there. All right, we'll give me the rest.
- [54:57]
Matt Jones
Denmark.
- [54:58]
Drew Franklin
Denmark is number eight.
- [54:59]
Matt Jones
Here we go.
- [54:59]
Drew Franklin
Is on there. Filling out. Filling out the list. Number three, New Zealand. Number four, Austria. Number five was Switzerland. Number six, Singapore. Number seven, Portugal. Number nine, Slovenia. And number 10, Finland. Now to the worst.
- [55:12]
Billy
Wait, hang on, hang on.
- [55:13]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [55:14]
Billy
Slovenia. Is that what you said?
- [55:17]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [55:17]
Billy
Huh.
- [55:18]
Matt Jones
Where's Canada? I had them in the top 10.
- [55:19]
Billy
That's surprising, too, that Slovenia is on there.
- [55:22]
Drew Franklin
Number nine.
- [55:23]
Billy
I went to Slovenia and actually found the big city there a little scary.
- [55:30]
Matt Jones
I.
- [55:30]
Billy
That's. That's surprising to me. Portugal, I can see completely. New Zealand, I think would be awesome. I'd love to go to New Zealand. All right, so the most dangerous one is going to be South Sudan.
- [55:42]
Drew Franklin
Sudan is one. Yes.
- [55:44]
Billy
One is going to be Ukraine.
- [55:45]
Drew Franklin
Ukraine and Russia.
- [55:47]
Billy
One is going to be Israel right now.
- [55:50]
Drew Franklin
That is not in the bottom five right now.
- [55:52]
Billy
Yeah.
- [55:53]
Matt Jones
Afghanistan.
- [55:55]
Drew Franklin
No.
- [56:00]
Billy
Syria. Syria is a good guess. So we've gotten three of them, right? South Sudan, Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine and Russia there, like Botswana. What is it?
- [56:12]
Drew Franklin
Yemen and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
- [56:16]
Billy
Yeah. Because that. They're in a war. And then Yemen's just like. I think there's a lot of terrorists now.
- [56:22]
Drew Franklin
Would you like to guess where the United States ranks?
- [56:25]
Billy
Well, I would need to know what the. What the. What this. Because if it's, like, for world peace, then it's pretty safe. If you're talking about just on a daily basis, I would say 29th.
- [56:39]
Drew Franklin
128. And Russia was 163.
- [56:45]
Billy
128.
- [56:47]
Matt Jones
I guess they're considering gun violence and that heavily.
- [56:50]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [56:52]
Billy
Wow.
- [56:52]
Matt Jones
Homicides, I was going to say in the 40s.
- [56:54]
Drew Franklin
Terrorism, external conflicts. Military homicides. No homicides.
- [57:02]
Billy
128 is surprising to me, though.
- [57:04]
Matt Jones
We got to do better than that.
- [57:05]
Billy
Yeah.
- [57:06]
Matt Jones
We got to get top 100.
- [57:07]
Billy
But then again, we're more relying on guns than anybody. I mean, like, at the end of the day, we are. We have so many guns compared to literally almost everywhere in the world.
- [57:17]
Matt Jones
I mean, we opened this podcast about a shooting at a church, so I guess it shouldn't be that surprising that.
- [57:22]
Billy
We'Re not the safest. Yeah, well, that's. That's surprising. What was last was very last. Ukraine.
- [57:29]
Matt Jones
Yemen.
- [57:29]
Drew Franklin
Right, Yemen.
- [57:30]
Billy
Yemen was the last. Last. All right, what's next?
- [57:33]
Drew Franklin
All right, let's have some fun with these final two stories. You know, we are on the cusp of the college football seating season starting week one just this weekend, but week zero. Also a lot of fun last weekend. And the story of Hawaii's kicker is pretty incredible. Hawaii beat Stanford with a last second field goal, 23 to 20. It was their first win versus a Power 4 team since 2019. So feel good, right? But then you learn the story about the Hawaii. Hawaii kicker, Ken. Say Matsuzawa is a Japanese born kicker who hit the game winner at age 20. He was a waiter at Morton's Steakhouse.
- [58:07]
Billy
Hey, that's a good.
- [58:08]
Drew Franklin
On vacation in the United States, he saw an NFL game. So when he returned home, he decided to teach himself how to place kick via YouTube videos. He eventually convinced a community college to accept him in Ohio. He was actually pretty good there. And then he transferred to the University of Hawaii where he hit the game winner just last weekend.
- [58:26]
Billy
Very cool story. I would like to know how he convinced the school in Ohio. Hey, man, I'm over here in Japan. All right? Been on YouTube. I think I can kick.
- [58:38]
Matt Jones
I got this thing figured out.
- [58:40]
Billy
And then the community college in Ohio is like, yeah, feels like you're our guy. That is a movie I'd like to see. That is a great story. So he was at Morton's, saw kicking, decided to wait till he got back to Japan to learn.
- [58:59]
Drew Franklin
Yes.
- [59:00]
Billy
And then taught himself from YouTube. Maybe watch Max Duffy in order to learn.
- [59:05]
Matt Jones
Or Kyle Ramsey in the how to videos.
- [59:07]
Billy
Maybe I didn't want to.
- [59:10]
Matt Jones
I want to see the YouTube videos he watched. Like, I hope it was just some random guy in his backyard with 34 views, not even a professional. And he just started there and worked his way up.
- [59:20]
Billy
You do wonder, like, okay, so in football specifically, we have taken all of the talent in football as a marriage. But like, I. You hear me say it's a big world out there and there might be places all over the world where the people who should be playing this position are. And we just don't know. So, I mean, obviously punting has shown to be. Australia is not even that big. And now, like, half the punters in college football are from Australia because as. As we learned from Max, they grow up kicking, like that kind of motion. Like, they grow up with that. So it wasn't. So once Australia was opened up to college football, it was like, oh, these dudes are a lot better than ours. I wonder if that would be true for other positions. Like, you would think, like, offensive line. Like those dudes in the World's Strongest Men contest. Countries that were breeding like from, like, you know, Norway or from.
- [60:10]
Matt Jones
Let's get the Mountain from Game of Thrones.
- [60:12]
Billy
Yeah, it feels like those dudes might be even better at offensive line than our guys.
- [60:16]
Matt Jones
You know, we might be onto a strategy here. How do we find these guys?
- [60:18]
Billy
We got our pipeline thing. I learned this the other day. The NFL has a thing where if you are a team and you get someone from Europe or from Asia or whatever, and you Put them on your roster. They don't count towards a roster spot. So like every NFL team gets like 15 players on their practice squad. But you'll get a 16th if you'll get someone. Because they're trying to develop the game in other countries.
- [60:42]
Matt Jones
Yeah, The NFL know that whole country will be buying merchandise if one of them.
- [60:46]
Billy
If they were to make. Make the team. Because the NBA has obviously seen this happen. When they had Yao and when they've had all these players, you know, they get themselves into new markets doing that that way.
- [60:55]
Drew Franklin
I think you've had this opinion before. How about a sumo wrestler as a hockey goalie?
- [60:58]
Billy
Yeah, I've heard it. But then I've heard people say they have to stand on skates. Their ankles are not going to be.
- [61:04]
Drew Franklin
They have to stand or can they sit there?
- [61:06]
Billy
Oh, you want him to just sit on his butt?
- [61:08]
Drew Franklin
Just be as big as the goal.
- [61:10]
Matt Jones
I still think you're going to have some openings up in the corner.
- [61:13]
Billy
There's still reaction time. I watch a lot of hockey. They can put it through some slots.
- [61:18]
Matt Jones
And they're moving around, you know, I mean, you need a really big.
- [61:22]
Billy
Yeah, I don't think it's going to work. It would just seem natural that. Place kickers. Why aren't there more American place kickers from like soccer countries? You know? Why? I mean, I'm shocked that every kicker in football is not from. Is not from a, you know, Hispanic country or like. I mean, they're better at that. They literally do that motion. In theory, they should be better at it than us.
- [61:45]
Matt Jones
You can get a retired soccer player tired of running around all the time, like, yeah, I'll walk out there, take a few steps, kick it for you three or four times a night.
- [61:52]
Billy
Yeah, I mean, I would think there's got to be dudes in soccer all over the world who could do it better than. I mean, think about how many terrible college kickers there are. There have to be other guys who could do it.
- [62:03]
Matt Jones
Yeah, go get some 40 year old to just retire from the Premier League. Be like, we'll put you up, give you an education. All you gotta do is walk out here, take a few steps and kick it for us.
- [62:11]
Billy
All right, let's do one more. It's Labor Day weekend, Billy. We got places to go. What's number 10?
- [62:15]
Drew Franklin
Well, some might think that Labor Day weekend is the unofficial start of fall. But Starbucks would tell you it was last weekend. Tuesday.
- [62:23]
Billy
Who says it's the start of fall?
- [62:26]
Drew Franklin
Many people.
- [62:26]
Billy
Okay, I don't like those.
- [62:28]
Drew Franklin
Don't wear white either. This Tuesday, pumpkin spice latte returned to Starbucks. It's been 22 years of pumpkin spice, Matt. Now we've got pumpkin spice deodorant, pumpkin spice, cat litter. Fall is here, and you can always mark it with a little pumpkin spice from Starbucks.
- [62:45]
Billy
Yeah, I mean, I know people really like it. I've always wondered, why not just keep it all the time? People seem to enjoy it. But I do think the thing about the whole pumpkin spice smell, it does make me think autumn Halloween. So I'm not as against this as a lot of people who don't seem to like when we get to pumpkin spice season. Although I do think Labor Day is a little early.
- [63:07]
Matt Jones
I unfortunately frequent Starbucks. In fact, I've had two $7 drinks from there today. The pumpkin just doesn't do it for me. No, I'm not proud of it. We've been. I've needed caffeine this damn day. We have in here. Been a long day. But I agree with you that it's kind of like the turn of the seasons. Like we got a little colder here in Lexington this week. We're kicking off football soon. Pumpkin spice is out. Might have a pot of chili on soon. It's more of a. We're, we're moving into the. To a new season of the year.
- [63:32]
Billy
Yes. Well, thank you all very much for listening. Billy, nice job with your 10. We will be back next week with Governor Andy Beshear. I hope everybody has an amazing weekend. And you know what? It was the news and now you feel now you are, I guess, educated to get along with your weekend. Enjoy it. See you next week.