Episode 24 - It's The News

Summary

Podcast Summary

Interrupted by Matt Jones – Episode 24: "It's The News"

Release Date: November 12, 2025
Host: Matt Jones
Guests: Drew Franklin, Billy (a.k.a. Billy R Sports)

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Main Theme/Purpose

In this lively episode, Matt Jones and co-host Drew Franklin—joined by resident newscaster Billy R Sports—take a rapid-fire tour through the top news stories of the week. Their goal: escape the aftermath of a tough Kentucky basketball loss and dive instead into a candid, wide-ranging, and characteristically irreverent rundown of topics spanning politics, sports, pop culture, and personal anecdotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. The Government Shutdown and Its Aftermath

[01:07–09:13]

• Historical Context: The US is emerging from the longest government shutdown in history (approximately 40 days). The Senate has just passed a final spending package, with impacts soon set to be reversed (food aid, flight delays, parks, etc).
• Impact on People: Drew laments the uselessness of shutdowns, pointing out the wealthy political class stays insulated while real people suffer:
  • "It's just a bunch of rich people fooling around and not even considering that actual lives are affected." — Drew [02:48]
• Parks & Personal Stories: Extended losses include locked national parks; Drew unexpectedly reveals himself as a “park guy,” proudly collecting stickers from each visited park.
  • "Never thought I'd be a park guy. Maybe that's why I'm so passionate about this." — Drew [06:26]
• Divided Government: Matt and Drew discuss the perverse incentives of divided government, where shut-down threats become the only tool for minorities and create lasting gridlock.
  • "If you win an election, that doesn't mean the other side should get no say at all." — Matt [03:39]
• Airport and Park Reopenings: Relief is short-lived, as the new funding deal only lasts three months, leaving another shutdown looming.

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2. The Trump Administration: Policies and Turmoil

[09:14–18:22]

• Trump’s Political Standing: One year into Trump’s term ("it doesn't seem like it's going well" — Drew), both hosts agree there’s scant enthusiasm even among former supporters.
• White House Renovations: Satirical riffing on Trump's interior design tastes after (fictional) White House renovations:
  • "It's like cheap rich. You know, it's new money rich. Rich people don't really decorate like that." — Drew [10:54-11:09]
• Gatsby Party During Shutdown: Frustration over images of a lavish White House party during the shutdown:
  • "That actually... that peed me off a little bit." — Drew [11:53]

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3. Trump’s Latest Proposals: Tariff Dividends and 50-Year Mortgages

[12:27–18:22]

• Tariff Dividend: Trump floats the idea of a $2,000 “tariff dividend” for Americans—unrealistic without Congressional approval.
  • "He’s not allowed to do that... that has to be passed by Congress." — Matt [12:47]
• 50-year Mortgages: Far more derided is the 50-year home loan concept—seen as predatory and designed to benefit wealthy real estate holders. Story shared of how easily Trump was persuaded by a simple, flattering graphic:
  • "Anyone that ever wants to sell you a 50-year anything, run." — Matt [13:25]
• Inflation & Checks: The duo criticize the marketing of presidential stimulus checks, especially Trump's flair for branding:
  • "People get a check and they're like, 'Oh, Donald Trump gave me a check.'" — Matt [18:03]
  • "Money's never free, Billy." — Drew [18:20]

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4. Jeffrey Epstein Case and Political Fallout

[18:27–24:23]

• New Email Revelations: New evidence links Trump knowing about Epstein’s activities, according to emails released by House Democrats. Republicans counter by releasing a data dump—20,000 pages of documents—to obscure the narrative.
  • "Release it all, all of it. And whoever's guilty is guilty... isn't it that easy?" — Matt [19:28]
• Politics of Transparency: Matt is baffled by the political impulse of protecting offenders in your own party.
  • "If I weren't involved, I would be screaming from the rooftops, please release this." — Drew [20:49]
• Memorable Phrase: The "dog that hasn't barked" refers to Trump’s relative silence around Epstein’s crimes.
  • “I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump...” — Billy quoting Epstein email [23:12]

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5. NYC’s New Mayor and Progressive Proposals

[26:24–32:33]

• Zoran Mamdani: New York elects its (allegedly) first Muslim mayor, Zoran Mamdani, running on rent freezes, public grocery stores, and free transit—progressive dreams, but the hosts question practicality.
• Public Option for Groceries: Matt draws a parallel to public schools; why not public grocery stores?
  • "If you want something else, you go to the private one. Why is that a bad idea?" — Matt [28:17]
• Free Buses: Both Matt and Drew support public transit being free if the city can afford it, as those who use it tend to need it most.

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6. Streaming Wars: YouTube TV vs. Disney & App Fatigue

[32:55–39:42]

• Service Blackouts: YouTube TV subscribers lose Disney channels including ESPN and ABC; YouTube issues a $20 credit, but only if users claim it.
• Rise of App Frustration: The hosts lament the fractured, app-based model of TV now feels more cumbersome than old-fashioned cable.
  • "It would be so much easier if I could just flip the channel. It was better the way it was before." — Matt [35:16]
• Ranking Streaming Services: In a supplemental aside, hosts rank Netflix, Peacock, Hulu, HBO, Apple, and Paramount, with personal favorites and gripes aired.

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7. Facial Recognition & Convenience Tech

[39:47–40:44]

• Clear at Airports: Discussion about facial recognition's rise, how Clear expedites travel (sometimes unsettlingly accurate). Some grumble, others accept its inevitability and convenience.
  • "They already have everything. I mean, they could probably recognize my butt if they wanted to. They certainly are gonna be able to recognize my face." — Matt [40:44]

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8. Sports Gambling Scandals

[41:27–46:24]

• Cleveland Guardians Pitchers Indicted: Multiple pitchers charged with rigging pitches for bettors, joining scandals in NBA/NBA summer leagues and lower-tier college basketball.
  • "The return on that seems so little for the risk." — Matt [43:04]
• Easy Detection: Legalized apps catch more cheaters; Drew says this is a good thing, making it riskier for athletes.
• Degenerate Gambling: Tales of betting on first pitches, minor league tennis, Japanese baseball, and even snooker—sometimes just for “play money.”

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9. Pop Culture: Starbucks "Barista Cup" Craze

[46:32–50:24]

• New Fad: Starbucks drops limited-edition merch, resold at wild markups. Some customers line up overnight, even bring pepper spray.
• Hydration Culture: The trio wryly contrast today’s obsession with water bottles to college days when “I don’t know that I ever drank water…”
  • "When I was in college, I don't know that I ever drank water." — Matt [48:10]

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10. Calisthenics "Comeback"

[53:55–56:12]

• Fitness Trend: Push-ups are in again—allegedly. Most people can't do 10, and 50 puts you in the 99th percentile.
• Hosts' Skepticism: Matt and Drew give this “news” a gentle roasting, suggesting it’s not exactly new or revelatory.
  • "I think people have known that exercise [is good]." — Drew [56:09]

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11. Prospects for Anti-Aging Pills

[56:25–58:46]

• Grapeseed Extract Pills: A Chinese biotech firm claims a new supplement could let people live to 120–150.
• Would You Want That? Hosts are ambivalent, worrying about quality of life—aches, pains, and mental fatigue—even as medical science advances.
  • "I don't want to see what this place looks like [at] 120 years." — Drew [56:58]

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12. Mortality, Accidents & Movie Obituaries

[58:46–66:14]

• Matt's Accident: Matt recounts his recent car wreck, which left him reflecting on mortality—with his trademark humor.
  • "That was a lot closer to being a really bad thing than maybe I realized it was." — Matt [60:14]
• Pop Culture Game: What would famous fictional characters’ obituaries say? Rocky Balboa, Michael Corleone, Forrest Gump and more—each gets an irreverent, hilarious send-up.
  • "Husband of Adrian—not the lead." — Matt [62:20]
  • "We don't have Elvis without young Forrest Gump." — Drew [65:32]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Shutdowns:
  • "These shutdowns happen this time every year. They're as consistent as a pumpkin spice latte." — Drew [02:43]
• On Trump’s Proposals:
  • "Anyone that ever wants to sell you a 50-year anything, run." — Matt [13:25]
• On Streaming Fatigue:
  • "It was better the way it was before." — Matt [35:16]
• On Political Transparency:
  • "If I weren't involved, I would be screaming from the rooftops, please release this." — Drew [20:49]
• On Calisthenics Comeback (Mock News):
  • "Wait until prisoners find out about this—they're gonna get jacked." — Drew [55:36]
• On Consumer Fads:
  • "I feel like the sorority house will decide which one they're going to like and then it just blows up." — Drew [48:11]
• On Longevity:
  • "If you told me, you can be what you are right now for more years, I would want to do that. But if you were to tell me I'm going to be what I'm going to be in 30 years, I'm not sure I would want to keep doing that." — Matt [57:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Government Shutdown, Impacts, and Parks: [01:07–09:13]
• Trump’s White House, Policies, and Renovations: [09:14–12:22]
• Tariff Dividend and 50-Year Mortgage Proposal: [12:27–18:22]
• Epstein Scandal and Political Transparency: [18:27–24:23]
• NYC’s Mayor and Public Options: [26:24–32:33]
• Streaming Services & TV Industry Woes: [32:55–39:42]
• Facial Recognition Technology: [39:47–40:44]
• Sports Gambling Scandals: [41:27–46:24]
• Starbucks “Barista Cup” Craze & Hydration Culture: [46:32–50:24]
• Calisthenics, Pushups, and Exercise Trends: [53:55–56:12]
• Longevity Drugs & Living to 120: [56:25–58:46]
• Mortality, Personal Anecdotes, & Pop Culture Obituaries: [58:46–66:14]

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Tone & Style

The conversation is energetic, playful, skeptical, and always colored by real-world experience. Listeners can expect laughter, good-natured ribbing, and the occasional rant, all balanced by surprisingly serious reflections on current events and personal life.

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For Listeners:

Whether you missed the episode or want a refresher, this highlights the breadth and banter you’ve come to expect from Matt Jones and crew. There’s sharp political insight, cultural observation, and Kentucky wit—all in rapid-fire, digestible bursts.

Transcript

[A]

This is Interrupted by Matt Jones on Newsradio 840 WHAS now, here's Matt Jones. This is episode 24 of Interrupted by Matt Jones, presented by Cornbread Hemp. This is the good life we are day after, two days after the Louisville loss, Kentucky's loss to Louisville. But that doesn't mean that there aren't other things to do. We still have to know what's going on in the world. So I brought in Drew Franklin so that we could hear about the news of the day. Drew, it is time for the news. Are you ready?

[B]

Yes. I would actually like something other than Louisville basketball game to talk about. So take me into the world of news and away from that game.

[A]

So we got our newscaster, Billy, our sports. He's found the top 10 news items of the day, and we will discuss them. I don't know what's coming, which means they may or may not be true or they may not be completely correct, but they will exist. It's the News with Billy R Sports. Go ahead, Billy.

[C]

All right, guys, glad to be with you. Let's start with something that's happening today. Right now, we're in the middle of the longest government shutdown in American history, but it's almost over. On Monday, the Senate approved a final package. It's gone through the House, and it looks like flight restrictions, snap benefits, everything that's been gone over the last almost two months now could be coming back to American life.

[A]

That's true. I. This was the longest shutdown in history, Drew, and I'm not. I don't know how much it accomplished for anybody. The Democrats ended up. A few of their votes went and they ended up passing it in the Senate. The filibuster didn't go away. I don't really think much changed. I mean, it did probably cost the Republicans a lot of elections in the 2025 elections, but I don't really think much changed. What was your biggest takeaway from the government being closed for 40 days?

[B]

I thought you'd never ask, Matt, and you actually just nailed it. The fact that there's no change. Real human beings are impacted by this. They are, but they're at the bottom. The people that are goofing around, playing, goofing around, goofing around, playing politician, make so much money. That does not matter to them. I know. Maybe they don't get paid. Whatever. They're making their money on stocks. They probably don't even know they get paid.

[A]

I think they do get paid, though. No, but I'm saying getting paid, even.

[B]

If you were to take it away from him, that would not change their lives whatsoever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So while they sit there and goof off and smile and continue to be rich, real people are impacted and still nothing is coming from that. And that's. These shutdowns happen this time every year. They're as consistent as a pumpkin spice latte. And I'm tired of it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It's just a bunch of rich people fooling around and not even considering that actual lives are affected.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Thank you for giving me the platform to let that out.

[A]

Listen to that guy. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you're necessarily wrong. So go back to why this happened. This is why divided government is actually good. Because when the government's all in one side, it becomes they have no incentive to work with the other side. And if you're the Democrats and you're the minority power, this is really the only, the only sort of authority you have is to shut down the government. And that's a perverse incentive. Like we have to find a way in American politics to recognize that if you win an election, that doesn't mean the other side should get no say at all.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Ever. Because when you do that, literally whoever's in the minority, whether it's Republicans or Democrats, this is the only chance they have to get anything to happen is by shutting down the government, requiring the filibuster, getting promises, and that's such a terrible way to do it because the only chance they get to be heard is by literally shutting down the entire thing. If this has been going on well a long time, but really the mid-90s was when this started becoming like a real thing. Um, part of why I don't understand it is it's so destructive for both sides. The Republican, the, the president will always get blamed in this. If you go back through history, with the exception of Bill Clinton who found a way to not, it's generally speaking the case that, that the controlling party gets blamed and then the Democrats really didn't get anything out of it. I mean they, they, they wanted to get concessions about healthcare. They didn't really get em. Here's my view, all right, this is coming as a self proclaimed Democrat, I think the Democrats should make the Republicans vote on this. Let them vote on all their unpopular things. Like I kind of agree with President Obama who said, all right, you want to take her to healthcare, do it and then see what happens. Like see what happens when you take everybody's healthcare away. I don't like that. I don't want that to occur. But if they want to do it, have them do it. And then when everybody's healthcare premiums double, they'll know who to blame.

[B]

They'll mess around and find out.

[A]

Well, I mean, Obama said in an interview recently, he was like, we've kind of gotten complacent with this idea that, oh, all the politicians are the same. Well, they're not, that people think different things. But the problem is they can. People can have extreme positions and they never have to pay for them because they never come into place. Right now. They're going to come into place. So. But it is a waste of time because you're right, People don't get to work. The airports got congested. They decide some people should be paid. So they play like the law enforcement people, some of them, but not all of them. But then the average person that works in government doesn't. It's just. It is a waste of time.

[B]

And the people losing money and that are feeling this the most really have nothing to do with it or no say in the matter. The politicians.

[A]

Parks get closed.

[B]

You like parks? I love parks. I actually have a yeti. I've started putting stickers on it of everywhere I've been.

[A]

You have a. You have a park guy?

[B]

I'm the park guy. National parks.

[A]

What, what, what part. What parks have you put on your yeti?

[B]

Oh, actually, my yeti is already completely filled, but this past summer runneth over. Yeah, I did a little. A little Mount Rushmore, a little South Dakota, a little Colorado. Hit several there.

[A]

That's good. That's a good combination.

[B]

Never thought I'd be a park guy. Maybe that's why I'm so passionate about this.

[A]

It was the parks that got you.

[B]

Well, all these loyal people I see with their nice little hats in their maps, they're just the kindest humans out there in the wilderness. Just showing Americans and our international visitors just our. Our most beautiful places.

[A]

Do you know how many national parks there are? No, I should know how many national parks are there? Billy, will you look it up?

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

I mean, in Kentucky, you have Mammoth Cave.

[B]

Also got that sticker recently. Grew up near there and had never been to.

[A]

Last year gotten a sticker. Cumberland Gap, where I'm from. And then I would think something probably to do with Lincoln is a National Park.

[C]

There's 63, 63 national parks.

[A]

Give me the most obscure one.

[B]

You see there is like the Daniel, The Daniel Boone area. Would that be. That's a I.

[A]

Well, that's Cumberland Gap. I think there's a Daniel Boone something. Maybe in North Carolina. I have no idea what I'm talking about. By the way. I know. I know Cumberland Gaps in National Park. I know Mammoth Cave is.

[C]

There's the Badlands and South.

[A]

We've been there. We've been there.

[B]

That was part of my trip.

[A]

That's not very obscure.

[C]

The arches in Utah.

[B]

Been there. Got that sticker.

[A]

We've been there too. You're picking places we've actually been. These are not obscure. We've been to both of these.

[B]

Are you looking at KSR's Instagram right now?

[C]

No. There's a. There's a ton in Utah though. Bryce Canyon. Canyon. We've been there.

[A]

Okay. I don't think we went to Katy.

[C]

Capital Reef in Utah as well.

[B]

I recommend the arches by the way. Matt, you've been to.

[A]

Yeah, Arches are beautiful.

[B]

Very different.

[A]

Very, very, very positive about the arches. What about like. Like Cumberland Gap? If you weren't from Kentucky you probably wouldn't know. Is there anyone like that?

[C]

There' Lake in Oregon.

[A]

Okay. Which is pretty selfish. Self explanatory. Crater Lake.

[B]

Since I don't think he has the Kentucky list. I looked it up. We have. You were right. Abraham Lincoln's birthplace is a national historic park. Cumberland Gap, Mammoth Cave, Big South Fork.

[A]

I think that's one of those things. There's a difference between a national park and then like a national registry or something. Like they're two different things.

[B]

It says it's in the historical park system. They might not be a park.

[A]

A national park is like, you know, you get rangers with little scarfs.

[B]

That's who I'm talking about.

[A]

Yeah. You get those. I think we only have three of those. I think it's Mammoth Cave, Cumberland Gap. And then I think it's something Lincoln. I don't think. Because there are other places that are like national. This is fun.

[B]

We have trails.

[A]

Yeah. But we don't call those a park. And I think that's it. So. So those get closed and that's sad. But now it's back open. Hopefully the airports are going to get. Are going to get better. And by the way, I read that this is only for three months. This could happen again in January and.

[B]

I fully expect it will. And then nothing will come of that.

[A]

Yeah. So.

[B]

And then repeat the next time.

[A]

Are you. We're one year into the Trump term. Think things are going well.

[B]

It doesn't seem like it's going well. I do a good job of ignoring most of it. I think it's best for my. My sanity and my mental health. But you know, I have several people in my life that were big fans of him. Seem like even they've backtracked a little.

[A]

I mean, I think there's sometimes, you know, it feels like the only thing he's accomplished. He's got two things. One, it does feel like they've stopped some of the border crossings and then they tore down the White House.

[B]

That's.

[A]

And I don't know who. Who said that was okay.

[B]

See, I don't like the. The kind of. What's the word? Like the cheap looking gold.

[A]

No, he's gy.

[B]

Gody.

[A]

I saw he was on an interview and he was talking about is this one of your things tearing down the. The.

[C]

No, it's not steal your.

[A]

But he, he was walking and showing somebody around. He was like, you see these, these it's. It's 100% bronze. 100% brass. Like that was the same thing. Bronze. And I think he thought they both started with br. So like they were the exact same things. And like he has a sign that says Oval Office. Did we need that?

[B]

Yeah. Do you think people were going to gave it away?

[A]

Do you think that people are going to be browsing and like what is this?

[B]

This is shaped funny. What could this be?

[A]

Is this a. Is this an Ann. What's the place that women plus size women shop?

[B]

Oh, Ann Taylor.

[A]

Ann Taylor. Is this an Ann Taylor or is this the Oval Office?

[B]

Didn't think you were going to pull out the Taylor.

[A]

I don't know why I picked that things come to your mind, but he did. He just tore it down in like a day.

[B]

Yeah. And that's not how I decorate. It's like cheap rich.

[A]

You know, it's new money rich.

[B]

Like rich people don't really decorate like that.

[A]

No, they don't. I'd like. I think government offices should be marble.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like old, like grand.

[B]

And try to preserve what was already there as long as possible.

[A]

This looks like more something like I could have bought these fixtures on qvc.

[B]

It looked like a DIY project.

[A]

Yeah. Now also now the ballroom is going to be bigger than the White House needed.

[B]

Do we have a lot of balls? I know there are balls are in there.

[A]

And it feels like they had balls before.

[B]

And no one was like, man, there's not enough space.

[A]

You know what this needs? More bronze brass.

[B]

I need more room to dance.

[A]

Also, you know, during the government shutdown they had a great Gatsby party. Which feels like maybe the least self aware Thing you could do.

[B]

Well, you might have heard I got a little worked up to start on my rant about that. Those images from that were playing in my head like that actually. I don't know what I can say because live radio, but that peed me off a little bit.

[A]

They were just like knowing Johnson trying to eat people walking around in pasties.

[B]

And you're like, I didn't see that photo.

[A]

You didn't?

[B]

Maybe that was stay shut down. If they're just gonna be walking around in pasties, let's shut it all down.

[A]

Mike Johnson, pasties. Well, at least it's over. At least for a while. So I guess that's a good piece of news. What's next?

[C]

Let's keep the news rolling with Trump. He announced or really floated two new ideas over the past week. I want you guys to tell me which one's more plausible.

[A]

Are you talking about for Trump?

[C]

Yes. Okay, so these are not law yet. These are just things that he's, he's said, which is going to be a lot. He announced over the weekend that each American would receive a $2,000 tariff dividend, not including high income people. And the other idea was, by the.

[A]

Way, he's not allowed to do that. So start with that. You have to. That has to be passed by Congress.

[C]

And then the other idea he floated was a 50 year mortgage loan.

[A]

That's the worst idea I've ever heard. All right, $2,000 bad idea. Inflation goes up. It doesn't really do a lot of good. Also it has to be passed by Congress. But you know what, it's not a bad idea. That would like in the world, you could, everybody could go buy an iPhone if they want. Right? A 50 year mortgage. Just as a little thing. Anyone that ever wants to sell you a 50 year anything run. I saw if you bought a $400,000 house with a 50 year mortgage, it would cost you $1.2 million.

[B]

You would pay twice as much for the house, even though your monthly would be down. When you add it all up at the end, your house would have been twice as much as it would have been.

[A]

And that's the kind of thing, like that's the kind of thing payday loan places in a mall do. Yeah, right.

[B]

Ripping off people that don't know what they're saying.

[A]

Why is the government doing that? Apparently I saw a story about how he ended up proposing this. A guy named Pulte, Bill Pulte. Just he. So here's why they want to do it. They want to do it because the housing market has slowed. A lot of rich people have a ton of money in real estate and they want to spur it. And the way to spur it is to get more people to be able to buy and then lock them into these 50 year loans. So bill Pulte wanted that to happen. So the way he did it, he got Trump by himself and apparently showed him a graphic that just said, FDR 30 years, Trump 50 years. And then it had the title great president. And that was all it took. Trump looked at it and was like, I am a great president. And now the rest of the White House is mad at Pulte for doing it. But why isn't anyone mad at Donald Trump? They get mad at the people who manipulate him, but not the person who is manipulated.

[B]

Dave Ramsey needs to call him. Dave Ramsey's probably losing his mind over this because it will just absolutely rob people in 50 years. You're basically just signing up for rent to the bank. I mean, that's going to be exactly.

[A]

You end up. You're just paying rent to the bank. You know, you're sign up for. This is Ryan Lemon. Ryan Lemon is more excited, I'm sure, about a 50 or more. Because he'd be like, well, I'm dead. It's fine.

[B]

Well, that's the sad part. People will hear, I will pay $200 less a month. That's what I want. Without even realizing that over time, you are doubling what you would have paid.

[A]

I mean, 30 year mortgages, I think that's too much. But a lot of people have to do it. I understand that, but a 50 year mortgage, come on. So you asked me which ones. In today's world, maybe they're both realistic. I mean, you could tell me the next Secretary of State's gonna be an elephant, and I would, I would believe it. But in terms of what's a good idea, that one's worse.

[B]

I saw a clip, and I don't know who the woman interviewing was or what network it was, but she was asking Trump about it. He was like, it's only 10 years difference. And she's like, well, we currently have a 30, not a 40. And then he didn't really have an answer. Do not even know how it.

[A]

Well, he's probably. Well, I mean, I guess he has taken mortgages, but I. Is. It's absurd. The other part, and this is dorky, but allow me to. Billy, they're before the Supreme Court right now, okay. And the Supreme Court is trying to decide whether or not Trump can do. Could do his tariffs. And the argument is this. Trump is allowed to do national security as the president, he gets to decide our foreign affairs, and you really can't question it. The president kind of has absolute authority. So he says tariffs are national security. But then, of course, in the court, they're like, well, then why did you put them on this island? That was just penguins. Like, are you worried they're gonna bomb us? The other thing, though, is if you're raising revenue or taxes, Congress has to do that by the Constitution. So Trump's lawyers go to court and say, a tariff is national security, it's not revenue. Everybody understand that? Which makes sense until Trump goes on TV and says, we've raised all this revenue, we're going to give it back. And then his lawyers got to be like, we just argued that it wasn't revenue. Like, he even undermines his own attorneys in this thing.

[B]

Can't help himself.

[A]

He really can't. But at least I was going to say at least he's done in three years, but who knows?

[B]

Yeah, just go to our parks when they open back up.

[C]

So I'm not going to get a $2,000 check? Not likely.

[A]

I think it's unlikely, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. I mean, I could, you know, Congress does whatever he asks, so maybe that. Maybe they'll pass it. I don't know.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Do you. Would that when you first heard the story, Billy, were you like, that's appealing?

[C]

I mean, more money helps, but it's not like that's going to put me over the edge on any decision I would make or likability of the guy.

[A]

What if he signed his name on it, which is what he liked to do. That was a brilliant move by him, by the way.

[C]

What's that?

[A]

Well, when. When Trump sent out his stimulus checks, he put his name on it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And when Biden did, he didn't.

[C]

You think that's people.

[B]

It's good marketing.

[A]

People are stupid. People get a check and they're like, oh, Donald Trump gave me a check.

[B]

Sadly, some people probably thought he wrote it himself.

[A]

Yes. Whereas with Biden, they're like, well, who's the Secretary of the Treasury? You know? So, like, you got. It's actually smart marketing to put your name on it. Who's next?

[B]

But money's never free, Billy.

[A]

Yeah, prices go up. If you give everybody $2,000, supply and demand, prices will go up. But go ahead.

[C]

Let's talk about some recent developments with Jeffrey Epstein. House Oversight Committee Democrats released emails how.

[A]

You said that, like, let's talk about a guy that I know, Jeffrey Epstein. That's how you said that.

[C]

The financier, the late convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein.

[B]

That one.

[A]

That one, yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So he sent some emails to his co conspirator Maxwell, and journalist Michael Wolf. And in one, Epstein claimed that Trump knew about the girls, apparently referring to Epstein's conduct. In response, House Republicans claimed released their own 20,000 pages of documents that they say they obtained from the Epstein estate during their investigation of the case. And also the White House has said that the Democrats are selectively leaking emails to the media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump. But mentioned by name in the emails released by Democrats.

[A]

Yeah, well, they, they, they released the 20,000. That's called flooding the zone.

[C]

You do that in law, just give them too much.

[A]

Yeah. So like in, in legal cases, sometimes if it's a big legal case, they'll do document review and they'll be like, one document that really implicates somebody and they'll bury it in like 50,000 pages and they'll be like, good luck. And then you have to search through it. So I think what happened is Democrats released this, then they released all these 20,000 going, oh, focus on that. Don't look over there. This should be the least controversial opinion in politics. Release it all, all of it. And whoever's guilty is guilty. And if it's a Democrat, good. If it's a Republican, good. Put them in jail. Like, isn't it that easy?

[B]

Yeah, there's no, with everything involved this, there's not like you're going to defend anyone. Like, if anyone had real involvement, whether it's on your team or not, doesn't matter. This is unacceptable. Both sides agree. This is unacceptable. Any involvement needs to be. When you find out who it is and get them out.

[A]

I still don't understand. I don't understand the Republican policy here of not wanting it released. I don't get it. Like, by the way, this is all gonna come out in the end one day. Like, it's going to come out one day and the qu. In three years, Donald Trump's gonna be gone. And you want to be the person that voted against it being releasing. Is that really what you want?

[B]

If I weren't involved, I would be screaming from the rooftops, please release this.

[A]

Donald Trump apparently called. What is it? Lauren Boebert. That's the woman who got a handy in a play.

[C]

Remember that?

[A]

Or did she get it or give it?

[C]

I think she'd give it.

[B]

Yeah. I Think she was.

[A]

She gave her a receipt.

[B]

She was to give her while vaping or something. There was some vaping involved, too.

[A]

And what was the play? The Sound of Music, Book of Mormon. It was in a play, wasn't it?

[B]

No, it was. It was. I don't know the plan, by the way.

[A]

This is a congresswoman we're talking about. This is like, this is a US Congress. He apparently called her this morning, woke her up, Trump, and said, do you.

[B]

Want to go to a play?

[A]

I said, you got to vote against releasing it, which is not what innocent people do. Right.

[B]

No, that's what I mean. If you're cleared, I would be like, we are not doing anything else until you all see that I'm not involved. Involved in this.

[A]

Okay. See, I. I have no idea what anybody did. But don't you think his actions are that of a person who seems guilty? Yes. Would you agree with that?

[B]

Because his first priority should be proving his innocence.

[A]

Yeah. Or at least just saying, here's everything now. Good luck.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, the email said something like he knew him. I mean, that isn't good. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.

[B]

Was that about a big dog doesn't bark or something?

[A]

I think he was like, big dog? Like, what? Was he calling himself, the big dog?

[B]

No, no, I think it was Epstein was calling Trump the big dog who doesn't bark or something like that. Wasn't that in there, Billy?

[C]

It does say Trump knew about the girls. That's the quote.

[A]

What's the big dog?

[B]

There's something about a big dog.

[A]

He's right. There's something about a big dog be barking.

[C]

I'll find it here. Hold on.

[A]

Okay. Well, I mean, it's the news. You'll figure it out. But the. Yeah. None of this is good, right?

[B]

No, not at all. And the fact that it's been years and we're still wondering, like, just lay it out there. We'll pick up the pieces.

[A]

I've always thought it would be less than everybody thought it was, but the longer it goes, you start to more and more believe, like, people are hiding things. Right.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Epstein sent an email that said, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

What? The dog that hasn't barked?

[C]

Yes. The victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. That is the rest of the quote.

[A]

So is he saying the dog, the person that has not been associated with Epstein that should is Trump? Is that what he means by the dog that hasn't Barked.

[C]

Epstein says Trump spent hours with someone the committee says was a victim. I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. That the victim spent hours at him, at the house with him. He has never once been mentioned.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, even if they prove that it's. There are going to be people who just don't. Just don't believe it, don't care.

[B]

And that's crazy. This should not be something you have to think about. Like, if anyone that was involved in this, if Bill Clinton is proven to.

[A]

Be involved in it, then he should go to jail. And I liked Bill Clinton.

[B]

If anyone working in our park system, it's proven they're involved. Get.

[A]

You're going to put the park people.

[B]

Even the people with the scarves and.

[A]

The hats, even the person that works at the Crater Lake. You're saying national park.

[B]

I've been there. It's beautiful. Them too.

[A]

You are serious about this.

[B]

This is not a debate. Involved in something like, this is disgusting.

[C]

Well, somebody's got to step up for the park. So I'm glad Drew's taking that.

[A]

Cause that's one of the things I've learned about Drew. It's new, by the way. He gets older. Well, obviously he gets older every day.

[B]

But every day by the show.

[A]

But like, if the drew I met seven, 18 years ago now, being part guy was not the park, that was not something I saw. I mean, it used to be jello shot. Drew just in a park.

[B]

I take them for the park workers.

[A]

Yeah. You know, my mom does church at national Parks.

[B]

Oh, really? Honestly, when we went to Arches, that was one of my first times where I was like, are parks kind of cool? Because I never really.

[A]

That was the first time. You were like, is there a God?

[B]

No. But we went around Arches. I'd never been to Utah. Just get a little farther away from our circle here. I was like, all right, this is pretty cool.

[A]

Now the arches are gorgeous.

[B]

So you were kind of my. My gateway park.

[A]

You remember, we. We thought we were going to get stuck in there, which would have been scary because they were like closing the gate and we weren't out yet.

[C]

But then you had to, what, sleep overnight there?

[A]

I don't know. See Mike Johnson and pasties, I think. I'm not sure what happens. All right, what's next? You know, Falls here. And with the cooler weather and busier schedule, your body and mind might need extra care. That's where cornbread hemp comes in. Hemp based wellness products designed to help you stre less sleep better and actually feel good as the seasons change. Maybe you need their sleep gummies to finally get a good night's rest after hectic days. Or their full spectrum oils and topicals for stubborn aches that come with cooler weather and yard work. And if you're looking to unwind on game day without a hangover, their seltzers are light, refreshing and relaxing without wrecking your Monday morning. They got something for Everybody. It's cornbread hemp.com Matt Jones Use my code. Matt Jones 30% off. Matt Jones Cornbread Hemp codes. Matt Jones this is the good life.

[B]

Last week.

[C]

Last Tuesday was election day across this country. Many state and local officials being elected. And the city of New York has a new mayor. Zoran Mamdani, the first Muslim mayor in the United States. Originally from Uganda.

[B]

True.

[C]

And moved to New York at the age. I mean, is that true?

[A]

Do you know? That's true. That's hard for me to believe that he's the first Muslim according to my reporting.

[C]

I mean I'll do some double checking here. You want to double and triple check these things.

[A]

But.

[C]

But I'll look it up.

[A]

I'm. No, listen, if you say it, who.

[C]

Am I to argue the news, Right?

[A]

You know the news.

[C]

Originally from Uganda, moved to New York when he was 7. His left wing platform has energized progressives. Matt. And shaken up the Democratic Party Mandami's plans. Here's some of the things that he wants to implement.

[B]

I love when he turns on his news voice.

[A]

I do too. It's energized the left. Tell him about couple things he wants to do.

[C]

Freeze rent payments in New York for four years. He wants to create city owned grocery stores and offer free public transportation in New York.

[A]

All right, so the first one. I'm not sure if he could do that. I don't really know the. But I, I don't know how you. I think he's talking about freezing the. They have something in New York called rent controlled apartments. Do you know about that? Where you can only charge so much.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I think he wants to freeze that. I don't think he wants to. I don't think he can freeze all rent.

[C]

I'll double check.

[B]

That'd be hard to do.

[A]

That'd be hard. I don't think he's allowed to do it. But he might be able to free. But the second third one to me are just good ideas, you know, for education. What do we have? How's our American education system work?

[C]

Terrible.

[A]

But I mean, how does it work?

[C]

Memorize something until the test is done.

[A]

Yeah. You're not following my question. We have public education. And private. And private. I don't know why you can't do that with a grocery store. Have a public grocery store. Maybe it's not as good as a private one. You don't get $10 smoothies or $20.

[B]

We could call it Publix.

[A]

Names taken. But you could have a public one. And if you want something else, you go the private one. Why is that a bad idea?

[C]

Sounds all right to me.

[A]

Me, too. And then the second. The bus thing. Why shouldn't buses be free? Why do we? Why? I mean, I don't know if they have the money or not, but let's just assume they do. I think buses are like a dollar. Why is it so important to give the dollar?

[B]

No, I think it should be free. I just. Are the books set up to do this now? I would guess not.

[A]

The books? What do you mean?

[B]

Like they're accounting? No, I'm sure their bus money goes along.

[A]

I don't know if that's true or not.

[B]

Yeah, I wouldn't know that either.

[A]

I have no idea. I don't know. But let's just say. Let me put it like this. Let's say they could afford it. Would you be for those.

[B]

They could afford it. Especially the bus thing. That's just getting people to work and helping a lot of people that could.

[A]

I mean, nobody rides the bus for glamour.

[B]

No. You don't see Wall street guys hopping on the bus.

[A]

So if you're on the bus, you need it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Right. So the free buses, like, who's out there going. Make sure people pay for the bus.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Those people going to work who can't afford a car.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know anybody, Billy, that's pro. Pay a lot for buses?

[C]

No. You know, I'm not trying to squeeze out the change that people on the bus have, so.

[A]

Exactly. I mean, buses. You only ride a bus if you have to. Now, the grocery store thing. Are you pro or con? A government. He wants to have five. One in each borough. That's a government grocery store.

[C]

I'm fine if there's a split. Like you were saying, give me the choice.

[A]

Yeah. Now, I mean, the people that were against it would say, well, they'll be able to charge less, which will put the other grocery stores out of business. But if they're only putting one in each borough, everyone can't use it.

[B]

And you'd think the inventory would probably be a little different. Probably not. Getting the high end products in there and it would just be a different selection.

[A]

It's gonna be Bubba Cola, by the.

[C]

Way, first Muslim mayor of New York City. I should correct myself, you know, no disrespect to the other Muslim mayors out there.

[A]

I'll pass that along.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Do you like that guy? Have you seen him at all?

[B]

A little bit. I mean, you know, two nights before.

[A]

The election, he tried to go to non clubs in one night.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I know he's young and has that energy. I just wonder like on like the bus thing like that Sounds great, but I'm sure that money from the buses is going to something.

[A]

Right now New York is the only place where going to clubs is a prerequisite to be mayor. Eric Adams, the mayor, he went to clubs like while he was mayor.

[B]

Well, that's where things go down.

[A]

Do they?

[B]

You're out there networking.

[A]

But would you want to go to a club and see your mayor like in a table?

[B]

Probably not.

[A]

Bottle service.

[B]

It's never happened to me here in Lexington.

[C]

It depend on his state, I think. Sorry.

[B]

At the soccer game though, but if.

[A]

She was like bottles full of bub, would you wanted that?

[B]

Like shooting one of those money guns over the floor with fog around with.

[A]

The sign that says Linda, happy birthday girl.

[B]

At first I thought no, but you're talking me into it.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if he's gonna work. I mean, my biggest thing is he's never run anything. So I think it's very hard to go from having run nothing to being mayor of the largest city in the United States.

[B]

It seems like a big jump.

[A]

Seems like a big jump.

[B]

But good luck to him though.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, luck to him.

[B]

Don't let, don't let Wall street leave.

[A]

Where are they going to go?

[B]

Texas.

[A]

See, nobody's going anywhere though. I wouldn't. The rich, where are they going?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Look, you're already rich. If you wanted to go somewhere, you already would have, right? Who wants to? Literally, New York City is the greatest city on earth. If you don't want to live there, you would have already left.

[B]

I agree with you that it's the greatest.

[A]

Who. I mean, you think there's somebody in New York that's like, I wanted to live in Lubbock.

[B]

Are they going to Lubbock?

[A]

I think that's where they're going.

[B]

Abilene. We're packing up and moving to Abilene.

[A]

Well, they were talking about going to, to Austin. But, like, if all of Wall street goes to Austin, then it's just going to be just as expensive as New York.

[B]

Comedians already did that.

[A]

Yeah, they beat you there. And very few of them are funny. So I'm. I'm. I'm out.

[B]

They're all just copying off Josh Hopkins.

[A]

The first stars of Matt Jones interrupted. He was the first person I knew that moved to Austin. All right, what's next?

[C]

Let's talk about the ongoing dispute between YouTube TV and Disney. It was October 30th that the 10 million subscribers on YouTube TV lost. ABC, ESPN, Nat Geo, Disney Channel, and a couple more. This has been ongoing for a While now, and YouTube TV is now offering a $20 credit to subscribers.

[A]

I got it.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

Did you had to apply for it, though, right? You just hit a button, but you just couldn't take it off of your bill?

[B]

No.

[A]

You had to. You got an email that, if you're not careful, would go to your spam file. So you do have to be careful about it. Okay. Do you think that's sneaky?

[B]

Yep. I'm picking up what Billy's putting down. They should have just done it, but they knew that a lot of people.

[A]

Wouldn'T have to do it.

[B]

They didn't have to, but if they were genuine, they would have just done it.

[C]

The report is that YouTube TV is attempting to negotiate rates for Disney content that are lower than the three largest TV distributors. So we're talking Comcast, Charter, and DirecTV. YouTube TV's argument is that's the only charter that's showing growth over the last few years with many people cutting the cord. So they are still at a standstill. There was a report just recently.

[A]

There's a report today.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That they might be close to a resolution.

[C]

So it sounds like ESPN is not the issue here. It's ABC that the price difference that Disney and YouTube TV have on right now.

[A]

So, you know, they do this every year, but they always settle it. But this time they didn't. And so now it's been almost two weeks without it. How have you found it? Have you found, like, not having ESPN has been okay for you?

[B]

So I had the new ESPN before this happened, so my life hasn't changed. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I have. I can't leave YouTube TV because I prepaid for NFL Sunday ticket, which is not cheap, and I'm gonna have that till the end of the season.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I just have to have both. I mean, I didn't love caving to ESPN, but it don't. I mean, it's still $10 a month. But I was already paying the original. It went up 10 bucks.

[A]

We have to do it for our job. We have to see the game.

[B]

Like, I see people every day trying something new. And, you know, I understand some people might not have $10, but I know the people that do have $10 are still going through it. And I'm just thinking, well, the.

[A]

Our friend Ryan Lemon's a perfect example because he will not pay the $10, but then gives random people on the Internet $10 to send them an illegal.

[B]

Stream and then complains that he hadn't seen the game. It's like, at this point, your life would not have changed over $10. Like, I brought my own coffee today. I didn't go to Starbucks downstairs.

[A]

That covered my belief I've had for 10 years, which is we're just heading to being right back to cable. The biggest annoyance to me about television now is I have all these apps, and I have to exit out of one to go to another to change the channel. It would be so much easier if I could just flip the channel. It was better the way it was before. Right.

[B]

I'm actually in the process of canceling a lot of them because.

[A]

What are you getting rid of?

[B]

Well, I'm on the chopping block. I have everything in a nice spreadsheet.

[A]

So rank them for them.

[B]

Well, honestly, some of the ones I love, I can't tell you the last thing. I watched some on hbo, the last.

[A]

Watch a lot of hbo I did.

[B]

Until three months ago. But, like, a lot of them, their prices are going up and their content's going down.

[A]

So let's rank them then. All right, so here I think of the major ones. You've got Netflix, hbo. What, Paramount, Peacock, Apple, Apple. Are those the five big ones?

[B]

Yeah. I'll tell you if I'm sitting down, probably every night I go to Netflix first. I would say it's.

[A]

It's my Netflix one. What's two?

[B]

It used to be hbo. They really disappoint me, though.

[A]

So it's two now.

[B]

Peacock, maybe.

[A]

Peacock.

[B]

I've been peacocking a lot. Oh, my date lines on there, though.

[A]

That's. I love Dateline. Yeah. Hulu has been doing Disney plus, so now Disney plus now has Hulu. So that's the bundle.

[B]

I have the Disney Hulu.

[A]

So you're going Netflix one, Peacock two. What's number three?

[B]

Probably Hulu.

[A]

Hulu. What's for. I'll still go HBO and then Apple.

[B]

Or be honest, I haven't checked on Apple in a while. Maybe it's been better. That's another one. I haven't even opened it in a couple months, and they're just taking money from me. So you're going Apple, then Paramount last.

[A]

All right.

[B]

I loved Paramount. While we had Dexter a few months ago, though, that was my. My go to.

[A]

So I go number one. Hbo. Someone that gives me the most consistent hoot. Nannies.

[B]

Don't you think they're slipping a little?

[A]

But I still. I mean, because. Because I can always go back and watch all those old shows that I like a lot. Two is probably Netflix. And then I think it is a huge gap from 1 and 2 to the next one. I probably go apple third, but they don't produce enough content. It's like two shows a month. I need more your Apple, for goodness sake. But when they put something out, it's good. Four for me is probably Disney because of Hulu. And then I go Peacock. And I want to watch Paramount, but I feel like everything is a cowboy.

[B]

Doing oil or just a CBS show.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not gonna watch that. Tom Selleck show is still on television. Blue Bloods. Yeah, it's. And now they have, like, Blue Bloods, Granny. So I can't remember the last time I've watched something on Paramount. Everybody always says, watch Landman.

[B]

I watched the Landman, but I just can't.

[A]

I look at all the choices, and I'm like, do I really want to watch this? I see all that on the Internet already, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We didn't mention Amazon, by the way. A lot of people watch Amazon.

[A]

Oh, Amazon. No. Okay.

[B]

So now Amazon, though, they have ads now. When I thought the point of me subscribing was to not have ads.

[A]

Yeah, that's a whole nother thing. I would probably put Amazon actually maybe fourth. I do like Amazon. They have a lot of movies. What do you like?

[C]

It's Netflix and HBO for me. And then there's a Gap, and then that's probably Disney. But just yesterday, we got logged out of our Netflix account. We're not the household of the Net.

[A]

So you were stealing it?

[C]

It was my dad's account. You could say that. I wouldn't. That wouldn't be the word I would use.

[A]

What word would you use?

[C]

Borrowing.

[B]

But he can add you. I have to do. I'm the household and I have family members. Well, it costs money, but it's much cheaper. It's like $6 to add your house.

[A]

So you can't just give your dad. If you give, you, like, you have. Your dad won't give you.

[C]

No, he probably would, but, you know, I'm.

[A]

You're too proud to ask a man.

[C]

Yeah, I want to do things myself.

[B]

No, no. Now it knows your house.

[C]

Cell phone bill.

[B]

I had to go through and pay extra for all the people that were using mine now. And they just sent me $6. Like it knows if you're not the original house now.

[A]

Well, every time I move, like, so I have a Lexington and Louisville house and I have to change the main house both times. I'm like, I'm the same guy. Why not just have facial recognition?

[C]

See, that's a slippery slope. I mean, I know your phone already does it, but how many things are we gonna have?

[A]

Everything. But have you been. You don't clear. Do you have clear?

[B]

No, I don't have quotes on.

[A]

So clear is the way you could even skip pre check.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And now clear has it to where if you walk up and they show your face, you're just done. Like, you're already. You don't even have to show your boarding pass, your passport. All you do is show your face and, like, you're on the plane.

[C]

Sounds convenient that they pick you up.

[A]

And they carry you and they take you all the way to the plane.

[B]

That technology blows my mind because I feel like half the time I'm looking down, my hat's pulled up over my eyes, glasses on, and I'm like, there's no way it's going to recognize me this time. Nope. Gets me.

[A]

And I look like in my. In my clear photo, most people at the airport.

[B]

Wow. Like, how does it know us?

[C]

Oh, it's just a radio show. We're going to bleep that one out.

[A]

You have a button, don't you?

[C]

Yeah, I got.

[B]

Don't worry, Saucy Matt over here with the facial recognition.

[C]

He's had enough.

[A]

I just. I'm not as anti facial recognition as. Because, like, they already have it.

[B]

You're already in a. In a database.

[A]

They already have everything. I mean, they could probably recognize my butt if they wanted to. They certainly are gonna be able to recognize my face.

[B]

That's all. They got it off Shannon's phone.

[A]

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[C]

All right, let's go to the world of sports, where two Cleveland Guardian pitchers were indicted in connection to a sports gambling investigation. Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Claas allegedly conspired with sports bettors to rig pitches that they threw. They often threw rigged pitches on the first pitching of an at bat. And betters would bet on the speed and type of the pitch.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

This is on the heels of the FBI investigation into the NBA where players like Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups were hit with major charges.

[A]

So we've had a bunch of these guys get charged now. Do you think there are lots of players in sports sweating?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I mean, that's now three Cleveland Guardians pitchers over the course of about two or three months.

[B]

Yes. I know a lot of people are blaming the apps now. I think it's good because the apps catch it. This has probably been going on since the beginning of time with mafias. We all know the stories when they've been caught now because it's legal and in front of us, they have system in place to actually catch this in a few of these stories, you know, the next guy down the road is going to be thinking long and hard about getting involved in this.

[A]

After seeing how hard press on on site, a person that makes $50,000 on the first pitch like that should. First of all, I'm going to assume you guilty. No one is that. And especially if you're guessing the miles per hour.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like just so obvious. It's clearly. You are clearly doing something.

[B]

But that's what's good about these apps because that triggers it. And you catch that now.

[A]

And now they said he can't do more than 5,000. That still seems like a lot.

[C]

But these guys are making millions of dollars for like a $5,000 payday. I just don't get that.

[A]

The return on that seems so little for the risk.

[B]

But.

[A]

But that makes me think that they just never thought they'd get caught, which makes me think everybody was doing it. You know what I mean?

[B]

We'll never know. But I bet it's worse than anyone could even imagine. Going back over several years, what is.

[A]

The most degenerate gambling behavior? Because I would say betting on the first pitch is up there.

[C]

It's high, like Japanese baseball at 4 in the morning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you might do that because you think you have an edge.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And that's like people up late and there's nothing like, well, I'll try to watch this game on a bootleg.

[A]

I think preseason football is degenerate behavior.

[C]

That's a good one.

[B]

I've made a few bets on NBA summer league for like five bucks. For five bucks if someone bet any real money on the NBA summer league, I'd question what's going on there.

[A]

What about, you know, there's. I've read stories that they think now where the most shady stuff is going on is low levels of college basketball. Like you know, Mary Mack versus in jit that that that's where they think the real like they're. Some of those games get crazy amounts of money bet on them and who could even know? Right. Do you think that's. That's crazy behavior?

[C]

Well, yeah, it is crazy behavior. I thought you're going to say is that like crazy to think that's possible? No, I mean that's probably where they're doing it now.

[B]

Challenges are prop bet.

[C]

Is that the problem? Prop bets?

[A]

Yeah, I think exactly. The fact that one person can control it.

[B]

You can't change now come of a game, I mean have a big impact, but you don't have full control. You can, you can go out there and not get 10 rebounds anytime you want.

[A]

And you're Europe. They had these scandals about eight or ten years ago with Challenger tennis. So minor league tennis tennis players were throwing the matches left and right. Drew and I one time called a minor league tennis match in Lexington and there were like hundreds of people watching online. And Drew and I were like, who is watching this? And then our. Our announcer during the break was like gamblers. And I go, oh, okay, makes sense. People from all over the world watching these two Russians play tennis in Lexington.

[B]

That is probably. Listen to us. The money on the line. We didn't know their names.

[A]

Yeah, I mean we were just talking about each other.

[B]

I just kept thinking the sponsors. When I didn't have anything else to.

[A]

Say, I was like, Drew's a fart face.

[B]

So meanwhile a guy In Dubai's got 100 grand on it.

[A]

Yeah. So that's probably, I would say low level college basketball. I mean, I know you can bet on the G league.

[B]

Yeah, I might have done that.

[A]

You have.

[B]

I've been on snooker recently.

[A]

Snooker?

[B]

Yeah, I got a snooker tip and it hit.

[A]

How did you get a snooker dm?

[B]

It was like from who?

[A]

Random.

[B]

It was like Bob Anderson tonight. Minus 190@ 3am and I was like, that's so absurd. I'm gonna bet on Bob Anderson. Didn't watch it. Just Woke up and had that money in my account.

[A]

You just have strangers sitting you. Snooker tips.

[B]

Great tip. I'm mad I didn't get any more.

[A]

All right, there you go. I'll take your snooker tips if you.

[B]

Want, but these, this is like play money. If someone were to bet a serious amount of money, that would get red flagged because no one is actually putting their hard earned dollars on something like.

[A]

That, by the way. Interrupted by Matt Jones. Sponsored by DraftKings. Who's up next?

[C]

All right, you know, Starbucks is a big corporation. They just released some new holiday merch on November 6, including a plush hello Kitty doll and a new barista cup. Have you seen the barista cup?

[A]

No, I have not.

[C]

Play on words. Obviously it's a glass bear with a green beanie on it, but do you remember the Stanley cup and how people went crazy for the Stanley Cup a few years ago?

[A]

You talk about the hockey.

[B]

No. Every year everybody wants to win it so bad.

[A]

Not a water bottle.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. It's a little different than Stanley Cup.

[C]

Okay, well, it's called a Stanley cup.

[A]

And is it?

[C]

Yeah. And that's what people are doing again. They're going crazy. People are camping out overnight. They're flooding stores with calls. People are even bringing pepper spray to make sure they get their. They keep their spot in line to get their barista cup. These are being sold for $44 at retail, but being resold on eBay for $1,250 right now. Barista cups from Starbucks.

[A]

Is that the thing I see with the Proclaimers commercial? Are they. Is that what they're doing? Is the berries to cop?

[B]

I just saw a picture of the baristas cup, so I know what it is. I don't think it's on that commercial. Maybe it isn't. I've heard that commercial.

[A]

Would you want one of these?

[B]

No, not at all. The people. It's sad that people fight over this stuff.

[A]

I remember when everybody was fighting over the Stanley things, but is that still a thing? Do people still want them?

[C]

No.

[B]

The brand changes every six months. A new. I guess we'll call it a thermos. New brand pops up.

[A]

Is that just because of TikTok?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. There's a phenomenon in New York where people just stand in line for something because it was on Tik Tok.

[B]

These. These cups are big in that.

[A]

Yeah. And like bagels.

[B]

I feel like the sorority house will decide which one they're going to like and then it just blows up. And then that one you're not cool. Three months later when the new one comes around. Well, I gotta say one thing about this generation and their thermoses. When I was in college, I don't know that I ever drank water. I don't think I remembered to drink water. I probably went months without drinking water. But now it's like, how much water can I carry around? Look how cool I am. Look how much water I drink.

[A]

And it feels like they want to care the carry the heaviest amount.

[B]

It's never big enough. Oh, I need a handle for my water.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't even know we had water. It was my house when I was in college.

[A]

That's true. Water was not something I, I consider drinking water like low class.

[B]

So even though I think we're. We're getting a little materialistic as a generation, at least they're drinking their daily water.

[A]

I wanted something with flavor. And now the most water possible, I.

[C]

Was one of those.

[B]

I wanted at least four and a half people.

[C]

Water carrier. I mean, I had a yeti that I took to every class. Everything that I did, I always had to have water on me. I've actually thought about this.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Because I'm thirsty.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

But I, I thought about this recently because Bob Ryan. You went to talk about thirsty. Yeah, Bob Ryan. But you went to Europe. They don't do a lot of water over there, right? There's not cold water.

[A]

No, they do water, but you, you don't see like plastic bottles of water. They know. I mean, you go to a meal, you get water or get some sparkling. They like sparkling water, which I think is gross.

[B]

San Pellegrino.

[A]

Yeah, they're big on sparkling water. They'll go still or sparkling. They like to call it still because it's not sparkling.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But yeah, we American. I guess it's good because it's healthy for you.

[B]

Yeah, but like spending this money on cups, like, come on, kids, let's calm down with our fighting for.

[A]

That's another thing we never thought about when I was a kid was like, I mean, you would just drink it out of the tap or the water fountain. Yeah. And now it's got to be filtered. Yeah, Purified.

[B]

See, I would just, you know, only thing I'd worry about was who was at the waterfall before me. Because we're all just putting our mouth on that thing now. Everybody has their own. Everybody's got like four of them too. I got my. This one I take to class. This one's at home. This one has a right handle. This one Has a left handle. It's. It's out of control.

[A]

Yeah, I. Good for the baristas. I did notice there were a lot of people at Starbucks while I was there the other day. Maybe that was. Why. What's next?

[C]

All right. Let's stay in New York. It is officially Christmas time. The 11 ton Rockefeller Christmas tree is now up in New York City. 75 foot Norway spruce is 11 tons, 45ft wide and has more than 50,000 LED lights on it. It started the tradition in 1931 with depression era workers. And there's actually a cool story involved with the tree this year. It was donated by somebody that. Whose great grandparents planted the tree in hope that this would be the Rockefeller tree one day.

[A]

Well, that's nice. Where do they get it?

[C]

It's a town outside of New York City.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I like that. Christmas in New York is cool. It's. It's very expensive now, so it's hard to do. But the tree and everybody's skating, it's, it's, it's a. It's a beautiful thing. I know you've gone to it before. I went one time with an ex girlfriend and we decided to go down there and I, I think somebody gave me the flu while I was there.

[B]

Lost naughty kids around.

[A]

So I do have, I do have some negative correlation, but otherwise I'm, I'm for the Rockefeller tree.

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's. I've done it like every year for five, six, maybe seven years. This will be the first year I don't do it. I'm not normally like, take me to the touristy stuff, but New York at Christmas, just throw me in the crowd.

[A]

It's nice.

[B]

Yeah. I give my hot chocolate. I stand on the sidewalks that feel like they have 2,000 people trying to stand in one little space and you can just baby forward. But something about.

[A]

Have you ice skated?

[B]

I don't ice skate. That's. It's a thing. Abby's a big ice skater.

[A]

What do you mean you don't.

[B]

You.

[A]

Why is it.

[B]

It's a whole scene. Do you remember hey Kentucky. Mary Jo took me to ice skate that bit and I just kept falling.

[A]

You were really bad at it.

[B]

Really bad at it.

[A]

Why is that?

[B]

I was the kid growing up that like my friends would have roller skating parties at Skate World and I'd have to hug the wall and it's still got some trauma.

[A]

You still have balance.

[B]

It's weird. I can do most other stuff. Balancing. It's just something with the roller skates. I think I just never really gave it a chance. And then it, you know, life went on. I became an adult who couldn't do it.

[C]

So roller skates, too, or just ice skates. The roller skate and, well, roller blades.

[B]

Calm down. She's trying to get me killed. But there's. There's video of me trying to ice skate down here in Triangle park at Christmas years ago. And then on hey, Kentucky Old Show. Both times I'm pretty much just crawling.

[A]

Over to ice skating hard now. I mean, if you've never done it. I've done it a couple times, but it's. I have to hug. I'm. Now I can roller skate a little bit. I don't feel comfortable. Part of it's being tall. It's a long way to the ground when you short people like, you don't have as far to fall.

[B]

Yeah. We got to think about our landing.

[A]

We do. And you get to a certain age, like, things hurt, you know, joints, knees. You know, they say your ankles start getting weak at 46.

[C]

How's it. How's it feel?

[A]

It's hurting. Pop a lot. My ankles pop a lot now. They didn't used to do that.

[B]

That's what I was bringing up in about the last six months. My knees are constantly popping.

[A]

Yeah, I do. I get a lot of pops.

[C]

They have walkers that you can use when you're on the ice or the.

[A]

Well, not at Rockefeller Center. There's so many people. That's another thing about. If you do it at Rockefeller center, you better be okay because there's so many people. They'll just knock you over if you. If you don't.

[B]

I couldn't do it at the Lexington, Kentucky Christmas tree. I'm not going to attempt it at Rockefeller.

[A]

Yeah. Who's next?

[C]

All right. New trend here in the United States. Calisthenics is making a comeback.

[A]

Is that new?

[C]

Well, I mean, it's. It's coming back. It's new right now. The form of fitness that uses little or no equipment and instead relies on body weight for resistance. You know, not everybody has time to go to the gym, Matt. And it's also.

[A]

Hasn't that been around forever? Isn't that the original form of.

[C]

Yeah, well, yes. And the military does it a lot as well. Push ups. Pull ups. But it is something.

[A]

They're calling. They're talking. They're now saying just push ups are calisthenics.

[C]

Yeah, I believe so. I've got some more stats on that here in just a second. So. Yeah, one in three Americans struggle to do five push ups right now. 50% struggle to do 10 straight. And if you can do 50 push ups in a row, you are stronger than 99% of people in this country.

[A]

Why can I do that? I could do 5, probably could do 10, but it would be. I'd struggle. If struggle gets you to 10, I think I would struggle.

[B]

I'm good for about 10. I'm not doing 50. That didn't even sound fun. I don't even know why anyone would try to do 50 push ups.

[C]

Shannon and I did a push up contest at a remote four years ago. I did 40, Shannon did 55.

[A]

Yeah, you guys are little though. Again, I think, I think push ups disproportionately hurt those of us that are tall and it like that. Push ups is a little skinny person thing.

[C]

Chest muscles.

[A]

Well, but also you. I mean, how much do you weigh?

[C]

Like 160.

[A]

Yeah. So I mean, you're pushing up 75 pounds less than me. I mean that's gonna be, you know, that's different. Okay, so what, what is the point of this story?

[C]

Oh, just, you know, if you, if you don't have time to go to the gym, maybe you can't afford the.

[A]

Fancy telling me the news is that I can do push ups.

[B]

Wait until prisoners find out about this.

[A]

They're gonna get jacked.

[C]

No, it's making a comeback.

[B]

Oh, I thought you're telling people they could do it.

[A]

Okay, says who?

[C]

The news.

[B]

Don't doubt the news, Matt.

[C]

I believe it's the AP that had this story.

[A]

And what is their basis for saying it's making a comeback?

[C]

I guess the workout routine of millions Americans.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And the study that has been done.

[A]

Do you have another one?

[C]

Yeah, I got one more.

[A]

Okay. That one might have been one you could drop.

[B]

I think people have known that exercise.

[A]

If you were trying to figure out which one of your 10 would have been one you could replace, I might have led by dropping that.

[B]

Well, I think he just wanted to tell us he's done 40 push ups before.

[A]

I think that's probably right.

[C]

Oh, I'm, I'm glad I got it in then.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't think I've done 40 in my entire life.

[C]

Let's go with one more final story. A Chinese startup, Lenovi Biosciences, has a exciting new claim. They have developed an anti aging pill using a compound from grapeseed extract that targets so called zombie cells. Their goal is to have people live up to the age 150. But right now, with Proper lifestyle and medical care. They believe these pills can help humans live to 120.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, do you want to live to 120?

[B]

No.

[A]

No, I do not.

[B]

I don't want to see what this place looks like 120 years. I'm just talking about my knees are hurting right now and I'm feeling 40. That's times three.

[A]

Well, there are people that believe that, like, the generation of people that are being born now are going to live to, I don't know if 150, but to that kind of age that, like, they're going to kind of look back at our generation as the last one that sort of didn't get the age revolution.

[B]

I don't believe that.

[A]

But can the planet hold that many people?

[B]

Probably not. We will. The technology will get so advanced, they'll find stuff, operate on stuff. You know, medicine will be so far along.

[A]

But, I mean, the question, though, is I believe they could keep you alive, but do you believe they're going to be able to keep people, like, vibrant?

[B]

No. And that's why just mentally leave your side. My body, Fuck. My brain after 120 years is gonna be like, I'm tired.

[A]

I just. I don't. Amy, if you told me, matt, you can be what you are right now for more years, I would want to do that. But if you were to tell me I'm going to be what I'm going to be in 30 years, I'm not sure I would want to keep doing that.

[B]

Would you think of, like, when we see people, they're like, oh, happy 101st birthday. It's like, awesome. They made it that long. But think of the state they're usually in. And then another 20 years on top of that.

[A]

Yeah. And I don't even know what anti. So the zombie pills, I guess that means, like, you have genes that break down, which is part of aging.

[C]

Yeah, the zombie cells, I think. I guess this pill is supposed to attack decaying cells and then leave the healthy ones. I. You know, it's easy to say when we're young and healthy. Right. But if there was something wrong with us, if we were on our deathbed, I'm sure a lot of people with the fear of death would want to live a little longer.

[A]

Well, that's true. I mean, I. But I don't know. I mean, this is not how I thought we'd end the podcast. But do you think you'll be all right, like, when you're laying on your deathbed?

[B]

As long as it's not soon as long as I do about the average, you know, I don't need to.

[A]

It's important to you to hit the average.

[B]

I mean, I don't want to be on my deathbed at 41, but you know, if I'm much older and about, about the average, I, I think I'll just have to accept it.

[A]

I did have a moment, I have to say this week that sort of freaked me out a little bit. So I, I was in a wreck Saturday and I mean it wasn't a terrible wreck, but it was a wreck. Like it totaled my car and when I hit the. I kind of swerved and I had to hit something. I think apparently what happened is my car hit a fire hydrant and then kind of got up in the air and it went door first into a tree. And it dazed me a little bit because I remember the after effects. But I also was like trying to get home and then the, you know, I had to deal with the police and all this stuff later. I was like, I'm going to, I need to go see my car. And when I went and saw the car and I saw how bad it was, that was kind of like, whoa. Like that was a lot worse than I thought it was. And that was a little bit, I don't know, that was like whoa, that could have gone a lot worse. And so I don't know, I don't know what that has to do with the anti aging pills but it, but it was sort of a moment of man. That was a lot closer to being a really bad thing than maybe I realized it was.

[B]

It also shows you that you can have all the anti aging pills but sometimes your number will get called when you least expect it. You mean Lucky wasn't you that day, but you know.

[A]

Yeah. Final destination.

[B]

That's right. My bigger takeaway on this news topic.

[A]

I watched that. The bloodline. The new one.

[C]

New one stinks.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Yeah, just not.

[A]

Granted, I'd never seen the others, so it was new.

[B]

The others on dvd.

[A]

Why?

[C]

They were just. I don't know, maybe it was better the first time, but they were up.

[A]

In that building and then it came down like at the. This one. Yeah, I kind of liked it.

[C]

A little goofy.

[A]

It's supposed to be goofy, isn't it? Aren't they all goofy? It's not real.

[C]

Well, before, I mean I couldn't get on an escalator. Like I couldn't drive behind a truck that had logs on it for a while.

[A]

Is that what you want in a Horror movie. Sometimes you want to be able to not drive behind logs.

[C]

Yeah, a horror movie that. That stays with me for 20 years.

[A]

So you didn't think that was good?

[C]

It was fine. It was not as good as the other ones.

[A]

I kind of liked it. Granted, it was all new to me. I was learning the premise as it went.

[C]

Now, if I was watching it for the first time. Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if you're supposed to know.

[B]

If you needed to know the whole plot, they probably didn't.

[A]

Can I tell you a conversation I heard Bill Simmons have today with Chuck Klosterman on his podcast?

[C]

Sure.

[A]

I'm not saying we should have this, but they said if Rocky Balboa was a real person, okay, lived a real life, and he died, what would lead his obituary?

[B]

How does that even come up?

[A]

I don't know. But you know what? I've been thinking about it all day. So. Have you seen all the Rockies?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, so he dies his New York Times obituary. What's he leading with?

[C]

I mean, husband of Adrian.

[A]

Husband of Adrian. He's leading with his wife. This is a man who was heavyweight champion.

[C]

Depends on what you value in life.

[A]

I don't think the New York Times would lead with him being husband to an anonymous woman. Okay, so would it be that he beat the undefeated champion to become champion of the world? Would it be that he ended the Cold War?

[B]

I forgot to think about that. I was gonna say Apollo Creed should be his lead.

[A]

I think you could argue he single handedly overtook the Russians by beating Dolph Lundgren.

[B]

You're saying Rocky Balboa, man who takes down Russia, dead at.

[A]

Well, that's what I'm saying. What's the lead?

[B]

No, I'd say that's your answer. Taking down Russia. I didn't even consider that. Getting that broad. But you're not wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was going to say just of his fights, I would have gone with the Apollo Creed Rocky 1 as his.

[A]

He lost in Rocky 1. He won in Rocky.

[B]

I'm even throwing off on my Rockies here.

[C]

Husband of Adrian.

[A]

That's right there, maybe you talk about his mentorship, decreed.

[B]

Gave back. What was his trainer? Mickey.

[A]

Mickey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just saying it was an interesting thought, taking a character from a movie, acting like they live their real life. And then Michael Corleone from the Godfather, what leads his obituary? War hero Mafia Don.

[B]

This is a fun game. Now that you're presenting it this way.

[A]

We could bring up all kinds of people. There's of a lot Lot of people. Can you think of other people like that? That would be interesting. Bilbo Baggins. I haven't seen Lord of the Rings, but I was just. Luke Skywalker.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What leads his obituary?

[B]

Son of Darth.

[C]

Honest farm hand.

[A]

Honest farm hand.

[B]

I actually just want Billy to write all these obituaries. We should give Billy 10 characters.

[A]

Michael Corleone brought all the Mafia families together.

[B]

He did right. We celebrate that killed his brother. I don't think you should. That shouldn't be the top of his obituary.

[A]

You know. World War II hero took over for his father.

[B]

Took over the family business.

[A]

Took over the family business. Brought down in corruption trial. Got the Pope to be dirty. It's Godfather 3 if you didn't get to it.

[B]

I've got the best character for this.

[A]

Who's that?

[B]

Forrest Gump.

[A]

Oh, that's a. I mean, what.

[B]

What angle do you take there?

[A]

Great question. What leads Forrest Gump now? What? What leads. Forrest Gump's a bit.

[B]

He's an Olympian. A Vietnam veteran. Got the Medal of honor drink about 15. Doctor, I think.

[A]

I think he. I think you lead his obituary with Vietnam Medal of Honor.

[B]

I think so. But he also represented us in the Olympics on the ping pong team and return kicks for Alabama. And taught Ella Elvis how to dance.

[A]

We don't have to teach Elvis how to dance.

[B]

We don't have Elvis without young Forrest Gump.

[A]

I think they would lead his obituary with Medal of Honor winner from Vietnam.

[B]

That's hard to top.

[A]

But there's going to be a lot in it.

[B]

Shrimp.

[A]

One of the first people to lose someone to aids.

[B]

She died on a Tuesday. You got a daddy name for us too?

[A]

We have other people that this would apply to. Was this in your news report?

[C]

No, no. This was.

[B]

He invested in some fruit company.

[C]

Anti aging pills.

[A]

It's true. Shrimp.

[B]

That's right. His restaurants are still all over the place to this day. Restauranteer.

[A]

You think it would lead for restaurant Frontier.

[B]

And Medal of Honor winner.

[C]

Small business.

[A]

Who got a pee? Oh, restaurant tier. That's great. Well, all right with that.

[B]

It's a good ending. Shout out Forrest Gump.

[A]

There's your news, Billy. Thank you very much.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

And we'll see you next week.