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Matt Jones
All.
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Terry Meiners
This is Julian Edelman from Games With Names.
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Matt Jones
Football is back.
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Terry Meiners
That means it's tailgate time and this season the only meat I'm going to.
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Matt Jones
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Terry Meiners
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Terry Meiners
More about about the deets difference. This is interrupted by Matt Jones on.
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Matt Jones
Newsradio 840 WHAS now here's Matt Jones. It is interrupted with Matt by Matt Jones here on a difficult week in my world, but one that can help me be more happy, which is to see my man Terry Miners who is in Louisville. For those of you who are in Kentucky, he's been on the radio forever on 840 WHS. When did you start radio, Terry In.
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Terry Meiners
Lexington at WKQ, I was a dude hanging tapes on automation. And then somebody got sick and they said, get on in there.
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Matt Jones
What year was that? What year, though?
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Terry Meiners
1976. I'm a freshman at UK.
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Matt Jones
So you've been on the radio for nearly 50 years?
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Terry Meiners
That's correct.
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Matt Jones
When is. When do you. When does it turn 50?
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Terry Meiners
It'll be next June, technically.
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Matt Jones
What are you gonna do for your 50th?
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Terry Meiners
I don't really know because my brain still works. I always tell them, you know, you and I work for the same people. So I always say, as long as my brain works, I'm gonna keep doing it. And I love doing it, just like you do. We. We. You and I know each other very well.
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Matt Jones
You told me 15 years ago when I started, you were like, I got, like, two more years left. You're never gonna quit. Like, they're going there. You're going to be on the radio, they're going to, like, put you to bed, and it's. You're still going to be going. Weather and traffic in five.
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Terry Meiners
Well, when I start calling people by the wrong names, I'm going to say, give me the hook.
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Matt Jones
Well, then you could be president. I mean, if you start. If you start calling people the wrong name. I tell this story about you a lot, and I think it's a good one, which is the graciousness that you have. I kind of got my start in radio in part because one time I was making fun of you, and you found. And I didn't even know you, and you found out about it and invited me on the air to talk about it. And I did not have a radio show at that time. And that kind of got my foot in the door in the building, which I think is. I don't know if it's a good lesson, which is harass radio hosts, and then they'll give you a chance to start. That's probably not the lesson you want, but I do think it's like telling about how you saw a. The entertainment value, but also the power of being kind. And it was a good lesson, taught me very early.
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Terry Meiners
Well, it's kind of you to say that. But, Matt, I also saw you have game. You. I've said this to many people over the years. I've heard various people come along and say, oh, this guy is going to be good. When I heard you come along, I said, this is the guy that's going to replace me. That was my first thought when I heard you on the air. But what's that?
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Matt Jones
Why did you think that? I mean, I was, like, doing, like, childish stuff back then.
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Terry Meiners
Yeah, but I like your expressiveness, your ability to express thoughts on different topics and your enthusiasm. I mean, that's all part of it. And you just have a showmanship about you that most people don't have.
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Matt Jones
So you've doubt. You have been like the voice of Louisville for 50 years.
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Terry Meiners
Yeah.
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Matt Jones
I mean, you were like this young pot, you know, punk rocker back in the day, like, middle fingers up. And now you're the city's elder statesman. I mean, how does that happen? You're like Snoop Dogg now doing commercials. Snoop Dogg and Ice Cube during commercials for Ford.
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Terry Meiners
Exactly right. That's the thing is, in Lexington, it was a rock. It is a rock station, wkqq. And I would start playing around with sound effects. I would act like I the. I'd say, the boss is so cheap, I have to cut the grass on the long songs. So I played green Grass and High tides is like 12 minutes long. And start the sound of a lawnmower. Start the music. And then you'd hear it fade away. The lawnmower. And then when the music finally ended, you hear the lawnmower come back up. And I. Oh, my God, I still got to do around the Tower. And there's a dead monkey out there, whatever. And just playing along. Playing radio theater.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Now that's old school, doing sound effects and things like that. So, you know, that's not. But you also were doing, like, in the 80s, you know, you all had, like, women flashing you at the milk Fact. I mean, like, Tony Venti would bring strippers in and flash the people at the milk factory across the street. Like, it's a. It was a different time.
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Terry Meiners
We did. There were people who would. Because we had a studio window, people would come up and reveal. And we were like, is this necessary? But, I mean, I know.
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Matt Jones
I'm sure that's what you were saying. Is this necessary? I bet that was not your exact reaction.
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Terry Meiners
Not exactly to that.
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Matt Jones
But now you end up doing things like interviewing Mitch McConnell and politicians. I want to ask you, because part of what I wanted to do today is sort of talk to you about what's going on in the world and get your thought on it. First of all, the state of Kentucky has disproportionate amount of politicians that matter nationwide. I mean, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, and even now Andy Beshear are all three national figures you've talked to regularly. Does that surprise you that our state, like, has punched above Its weight like it has.
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Terry Meiners
No, McConnell's the trailblazer there, though, because he knew how to stack the, the, the bags of money and disperse it to the various senators. He got that. The purse strings, which gave him that power. And so the other guy.
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Matt Jones
You mean like raising money for Republican candidates and then they're kind of beholden to him at that point.
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Terry Meiners
Of course, you got to come kiss the ring if you're going to get a check. It's expensive to run for office. And so he was smart enough to see it isn't about sitting there and voting, it's about collecting the dollars and then making people come and visit me and explain to me why they deserve money.
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Matt Jones
But a lot of people don't realize he actually came into power in Jefferson county back when. Jefferson county, that's Louisville for people who aren't in Kentucky, back when it was a Republican city. You know, people don't kind of forget it kind of was a Republican city, became Democrat, but. But he was the Jefferson county judge executive, I think it was.
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Terry Meiners
That's it. That's the title.
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Matt Jones
And what was interesting is the state of Kentucky was like all Democrats back then. And he went around, I studied this for my book, and he found one person in each county that would be the Mitch McConnell Republican in that county. And he created his own network of 120 Little Mitch McConnells around the state. And then when he ran for Senate and won, they became the kingmakers in their county. And he had this group of loyalists. And I guess the lesson there is like finding people who are loyal to you and who kind of owe you something probably is a way to have a lot of success in politics.
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Terry Meiners
He played the long game from back in those Jefferson county judge executive days. He saw what the opportunities were. The people who went to law school with him always said they could feel that out of him, even as a college student, that he was thinking long range. And so he was also pro choice.
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Matt Jones
He was pro choice back then. He was like anti gun back then. Like, if you go look at the positions he had, he had a completely different set of positions than he does now.
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Terry Meiners
Rather fascinating. Yeah. The evolution. Don't people say, like when. When they asked Bill and Hillary about gay marriage, they'll say, well, they were definitely. And they say, we've evolved.
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Matt Jones
Yes, that's true.
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Terry Meiners
We've evolved.
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Matt Jones
Well, people forget when Obama ran for president in 2008, he wasn't for gay marriage. It was actually Joe Biden that kind of. He went on like Meet the Press and Joe Biden said, yes, gay people should be able to be married. And Obama had to flip his position because of loudmouth. That's another thing people forget, Terry, that Joe Biden used to be considered this like crazy loud will say anything. Now we think of him as the old guy that was president, but he wasn't always like that.
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Terry Meiners
When he was a senator, his people contacted me and said, hey, Senator Biden is in town. Would you want to talk to him? I said, sure. And a few hours later, he walks up to the front door by himself, walks in, and we sat down and had a. We chewed on all kinds of things. And he wanted to argue with me about who pays taxes or whatever. I was like, okay, dude, take it easy. He was here to visit a family member.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, he used to be like a kind of a dirty mouthed, you know, whatever. And then he just became. Now we all see him as just this old man. Of all your years of interviewing politicians, who was the most interesting and then who was the most boring?
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Terry Meiners
Well, a lot of them are boring because you ask them questions and you know this, Matt, you've done it enough. You ask them a direct question about something that's in the news and they immediately just swerve to.
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Matt Jones
So who is the worst about that or is old?
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Terry Meiners
Governors. You know that. I think that we're just sticking to points. I mean, Wallace Wilkinson and I got into it fiercely several times.
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Matt Jones
Didn't you like you?
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Terry Meiners
Yes, I. We did his voice. I made him sound like Mr. Haney.
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Matt Jones
That's a good Mr. Haney. Now a lot of. That's an old man reference. I know it though. I like. Mr. Haney was funny.
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Terry Meiners
Nickelodeon's around. Everybody knows what that is.
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Matt Jones
Okay, yeah, well, not. They don't show that anymore. Terry. They haven't shown Green Acres on nickelodeon in like 30 years.
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Terry Meiners
It's on one of those dumb channels.
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Matt Jones
I loved Green Acres when I was. Well, who was the politician you enjoyed interviewing the most?
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Terry Meiners
I like John Boehner.
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Matt Jones
He was really John the suntan guy, right?
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Terry Meiners
He was. Was he like Ohio speaker of the House?
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Matt Jones
I think of the United States? Yeah.
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Terry Meiners
And he got on with me one day. But he also comes from a huge family like me, so we had connective tissue that way.
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Matt Jones
Do you have how many brothers and sisters?
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Terry Meiners
I am one of 14. I'm number five of 14. And we're all. We all love each other. We're on a text thread every day. We talk about my son's doing this, my daughter's. That's What.
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Matt Jones
So all 14 are on the same text thread?
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Terry Meiners
Yes, every day.
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Matt Jones
So 14, what's it like growing up in a house of that many people?
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Terry Meiners
I was just telling my daughter this today because she was driving back from college to get home for Christmas and I noticed when she got near Lexington, she drove on. On I75 over Todd's road. And I was talking to her on the phone and I said I used to have an apartment on Todd's Road. And it was the first time ever I was alone. It was so weird because you grow up in a house and it's filled with noise.
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Matt Jones
Yeah. Where are my pants?
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Terry Meiners
Where's supper? He's at football practice. Phones ringing. Colleen there? No, she's not here. You know, that's just noise. Constant. And so my dad and two of my brothers came to Lexington to move me out of an apartment that I shared with someone else. And I moved to my own. I made enough money so I could go to get my own apartment off Todd's Road. And we went in there, they sat down that we ate some burgers. My brothers and dad drove back to Louisville. And then I sat there and thought, oh my gosh, I'm by myself for the first time in my life.
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Matt Jones
So are they all still alive?
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Terry Meiners
Yeah, 14.
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Matt Jones
So how many kids between the 14?
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Terry Meiners
We are in the 50s. 52, I think.
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Matt Jones
And how many grandkids?
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Terry Meiners
So there have to be 35. A lot of are still in the I'm going to get married soon age. I was just in Lexington for one of my nieces weddings a few months ago.
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Matt Jones
So you think so if you got it. Do they ever all get together? Is there anything that brings the whole miners crew Christmas Day?
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Terry Meiners
I have one brother who rents this place that's a big enough facility for anybody who can get there. But a lot of them are now in Florida and then some are of course committed to other family projects elsewhere, other family gatherings. So we don't get them all, but we can have 80 or 100 people at a place. And that's not shocking.
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Matt Jones
That's.
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Terry Meiners
That.
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Matt Jones
See, that's because I have zero brothers and sisters.
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Terry Meiners
I know.
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Matt Jones
And I feel like a combination of going from that. That's. That's wild. Like you're one extreme and I'm the other.
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Terry Meiners
But the, the camaraderie is, is a real thing. I know they talk about twins, know what the other one's thinking, all that business. We're not that far down the line, but pretty close. We all understand each other's personalities, even the oldest to the youngest. And there's a 20 year spread there. We know each other well enough to be able to think, oh, it's getting to be that time where such and such needs a little, you know, little rah rah. And so you text somebody and say, how are you? I know you went through a rough thing or whatever it is, but. So we look out for each other. We're each other's springboard now.
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Matt Jones
All.
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Coca-Cola Announcer
This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
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Terry Meiners
Pressure is coming down.
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Matt Jones
Louisville, would you say in 2025 the City of Louisville you think is doing well?
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Terry Meiners
Very much so.
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Matt Jones
Okay, how explain.
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Terry Meiners
Because I lived through 2020.
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Matt Jones
Okay.
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Terry Meiners
And so you know the, the difference between this five years, five and a half years later of a raucous, scary, frightening time. It's like Dorothy walking out of the house in the wizard of Oz. There's another old reference for you opening the door and here we are.
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Matt Jones
You're gonna have like a Warren G. Harding reference here soon if we keep going this old, but go ahead.
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Terry Meiners
He's fascinating, but it's a complete changeover from the reality that we had there. For a while it seemed like, you know, and that was only five years ago, it seemed like everything came to a screeching halt. We know that. But the climb out was slower than anticipated. When it first happened, everybody said two weeks, flatten the curve. Flatten the curve. If we all just stay home and don't anybody breathe on anybody else, two weeks, it'll be over. Well, we all know what happened.
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Matt Jones
But you go back, if you go back to like the 80s, like Louisville as a city was in the dumps in general. The downtown was kind of dead. You know, there was industry. But like I think Louisville, especially the downtown had kind of just completely collapsed even into the 90s. And then Jerry Abramson, a lot of people give him a lot of credit for it. Downtown kind of revitalized to. When I moved to Louisville in the early 2010s, downtown Louisville was like a scene. Like it actually was not just socially, but work wise. Like it felt like a major city downtown. And then Covid happened in the protest and it went completely the opposite way. And it has not built back up to what it was before. But do you think it is on that path?
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Terry Meiners
Absolutely. And let me walk back a little further. You know, you can look at photos and see in the 1950s, here it is, mid December, people walking down. I mean, the sidewalks are stuffed. It's like Manhattan Fifth Avenue. There's sidewalks are stuffed, the stores are filled, there's movie theaters. All that business. That's all in photographs. We see that. So we know Louisville was, was thriving then. And then the 60s got turbulent, but that was another shift in American culture. And then the 70s, they. They built something in downtown, a walking mall instead of having a street.
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Matt Jones
Yeah.
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Terry Meiners
And that was a bomb. Yeah. River City Mall is what it was called. And then you're right. Jerry Abramson was the new young, cool guy who came in with more ideas. Hey, let's plant trees. Let's do this, let's do that. Let's have community engagement things on the Belvedere. You know, like, we'll have Heritage weekend. And. And so people started like, okay, we're, we're back in.
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Matt Jones
Do you think my friend Craig is doing well as mayor?
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Terry Meiners
Without a doubt. Craig's got the right energy and has a wide lens vision for the community. He is not narrowly focused on a couple of little things. He is. He really shakes hands in all corners of the county, which is really now the city technically. But people know him in Fairdale as well as they know him on 28th street, you know, and that's great.
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Matt Jones
And he's also a co owner of a wrestling company with me, which I gave the worst political advice to anyone on earth. When he told me he was thinking about running for mayor. And I went, don't do that. You will definitely lose. Because I just assumed after the Breonna Taylor stuff, we were going to have an African American mayor. Like, I just thought that was like, going to happen. And I was like, why would you run for this? You're going to lose. And he did not listen to me. And then he won. And I actually think he's done like a great job. I knew he, he's an. He is a really smart, like, he's not really an ideologue. He's kind of a pragmatic person. And I knew he would be like that, but I just thought, why would you want to put yourself through this? And then of course, you know, there was an assassination attempt on him. I mean, he's really had just an unbelievable tenure in time.
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Terry Meiners
To bounce back from that assassination attempt was incredible in that most people would be scared and say, I Don't need a public life.
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Matt Jones
That's right. That's what I would probably do.
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Terry Meiners
Yeah, Go get a farm and grow soybeans. But he decided, no, we're in. And, you know, that story is horrific, and that scar tissue that never really heals, but he is. He's pushed through that so well and I think is very highly loved around here. And back to your other point. The second leading vote getter, at least in all the polling leading up to, because I had access to a lot of that, too, was Shamika Parrish Wright. We were about to have a black woman mayor, and Craig's numbers kept surging, and obviously he had a nice, clear victory. But you're right, there's a whole shift in the way Louisville looks at itself dynamically, and we've got to address some lingering issues.
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Matt Jones
Well, let me ask you about that. I mean, Louisville's history, I think especially for people who don't live in Kentucky, they may not realize. I mean, Adam Eland once told me, in Lexington, everybody just wants to get along, and they don't like people who rock the boat. Whereas in Louisville, everyone rocks the boat and isn't very comfortable with people who try to get along. I actually think that's. I've lived in both cities a lot. I actually think there's something to that. Like, there's always a controversy in. In Louisville, whereas in Lexington, people just don't really want that. Do you agree with those characterizations? And if so, why do you think that is?
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Terry Meiners
No, Lexington, I agree with that assessment. But in Louisville, I think there are a lot of people who are. Who are crowdsourcers. They know how to bring people together. And there are. There are some people who know how to shoot off a few flares and it gets them clicks. It's, you know, engagement farming, essentially, and that's okay. And because that builds people's careers and they have to take an opposition stance to something because their constituency relies upon it. But all told, I hate even bringing this up. We just went through another horrific thing in this city. A jet crashing.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, that was awful.
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Terry Meiners
And you see the way people immediately focus on what needs to be done.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, that's true.
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Terry Meiners
And people came together fully on that. And just everybody's hurting. You know, I don't want to bring up the other tragedies, but we all know about them after these tragedies have happened. Mass shootings. I'll use that phrase. People come together and realize, good Lord, we're. We're way. We're way over our skis in terms of not handling mental health issues. And we've. We've got to address these things now. The plane crash is a different deal, of course, but it did show the community again.
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Matt Jones
No, they do. It does route. And I love Louisville. I actually people, because I'm a Kentucky guy, they always want me to. To hate Louisville because I think in the rest of the state, you know, when I was growing. What's weird is, especially if you live anywhere from Louisville, East Lexington is almost the de facto capital of Kentucky to them. Like, they don't even like Louisville. Seems like a different place. When I was a kid, we never went to Louisville. Like, I never spent any time in Louisville. But I think Louisville is an amazing city. I mean, when you talk about food and options and different types of people. But the one thing that I think still sort of haunts the place is the long history of there kind of being a racial divide in Louisville specifically, Even a geographical one, the 9th Street. Do you think things are better in that regard for Louisville now? And what can it do to sort of. Because the race issue is much more of an issue in Louisville to me than it is Lexington. And how do you think. Do you think that's getting better?
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Terry Meiners
It feels like it. When I was in high school, I worked at a Baptist hospital, and I was the only white person working in that sector. It was in the kitchen, and I was delivering things around the different floors in there. And I. That was a great education for me because I grew up three miles from this microphone. And we didn't have any black people in our neighborhood.
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Matt Jones
Well, I mean, for people who don't know Louisville, there is a. It's literally the 9th street divide. And there are people in Louisville who've never even been to the west end of Louisville. You know, I mean, it just doesn't. And because of the river, it's segregated geographically, too, in a way that you just don't see in other places.
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Terry Meiners
But there are black people in all sectors now.
- [27:40]
Matt Jones
There are now for sure.
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Terry Meiners
But 9th Street. I'll go back to that 50s thing I was describing. All the shoppers, the stores, all that business. Part of that had to do with blowing up all the businesses that went down. What's now called Muhammad Ali Walnut Street. And it took away the connectivity to the sector beyond ninth street, because that whole business sector just evaporated. You know, they had all these ideas, we're going to put this factory here, and all this nonsense. It didn't work. The community feeling was gone. It was like they. There was A bridge and they chopped off the end of it.
- [28:15]
Matt Jones
Yeah, see, I didn't know that. So you're saying that they used to go past Ninth street, then the shopping.
- [28:20]
Terry Meiners
One of the greatest stories about Muhammad Ali is when he went to Central High School. He would go out and run along the school bus. He didn't want to be on the bus. He wanted to make fun of the kids on the bus and then laugh at him and then run to the next stop to get there before the bus got there.
- [28:37]
Matt Jones
Did you ever get there? Did you ever get to interview Muhammad Ali?
- [28:41]
Terry Meiners
Oh, yeah, but he was.
- [28:42]
Matt Jones
He was diminished at that point.
- [28:44]
Terry Meiners
But Muhammad would run down this street that's now called Muhammad Ali Boulevard and they said old men would laugh at him because there were homes along there would laugh at him and he'd yell at him. I'm going to be the greatest. They'd say, oh, you're nuts. Who is this lunatic?
- [28:58]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [28:58]
Terry Meiners
And so it's so great that that street is the one named for him because of those two things. The school bus chasing and the old men mocking him. I just love that. I read that in the Jonathan Eichmann book.
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- [30:21]
Terry Meiners
I like Andy personally. I saw him at the football game a couple weeks ago, but I. I bet that was quick. The last time I got to talk to him, I was saying to him, you really ought to get on some opposition shows because Shapiro does it, Newsom does it. They go sit down with people who are conservatives and they push them hard. And I don't see Andy do that yet. I think he needs to do that to Open up the lanes a little wider. He's, he's loved here in Kentucky. He just did a nine minute CNN sit down about the economy and who's whose problem it is about inflation and health care and regional hospitals. And he got all that stuff in there that you and I are used to hearing, his regular talking points. He is great with people. He's a guy that knows how to hug somebody. Some people can't do that.
- [31:11]
Matt Jones
Yeah, no, he's very good at that. He's very, he's.
- [31:14]
Terry Meiners
That goes a long way.
- [31:15]
Matt Jones
Yeah, yeah.
- [31:16]
Terry Meiners
But Shapiro and Newsom are very strong. I see them in strong positions in bigger, more powerful states. And so that's an issue too.
- [31:26]
Matt Jones
Well, his lane, to me, if he's going to run in the Democratic primary, his lane is this because he's not going to be able to out snark Newsom.
- [31:36]
Terry Meiners
Right.
- [31:36]
Matt Jones
And he's not going to be able to. He's not in a swing state like Shapiro. So his lane is going to have to be if America, and specifically the Democrats say, we are so exhausted of the constant fighting and Trump being a jerk. And he's the opposite of that. He's basically like, if you wanna elect a nice guy, if we're tired of 12 years of screaming at each other, here's Mr. Nice Guy. Don't you think that's the lane he has the best chance in?
- [32:10]
Terry Meiners
Well, he's absolutely the best suited for that description you just gave. I don't know that America still really wants to quit.
- [32:17]
Matt Jones
That's why I don't either. I don't know if they either especially do the Democrats want. I mean, there's a part of the Democrats are like, we want our Trump. We want the guy who's out there.
- [32:26]
Terry Meiners
You know, here's one of the biggest problems. We have cell phones and everybody's online, everybody's a commentator. So every day when you try to just look for some content that matters, it's somebody's shrieking face, yelling and cursing about whatever, and they don't change one mind. But again, it's about getting clicks. There's so many people who need to be outraged about something.
- [32:52]
Matt Jones
Wow, was that your Alex Jones?
- [32:55]
Terry Meiners
You know, we're like, what?
- [32:56]
Matt Jones
Yeah, but, but do you think at some point people go, I'm exhausted by that. Right. And I mean, that is his, that's his lane. Because like in a Democratic primary it is going to be hard for a moderate to win. And I think the only way for a moderate to win is to be like, everybody's dad. And I feel like that's something Andy does a pretty good job of.
- [33:26]
Terry Meiners
He did good work following the COVID.
- [33:30]
Matt Jones
Oh, that was when he was at Covid. And then the floods and the tornado. That's when he's at his best.
- [33:36]
Terry Meiners
It was beers with Bashir in the afternoon because he had to have a daily update on the COVID crisis. And I think that a lot of people warmed up to him then thought, oh, this guy's. He's not going to punch me in the face and he's not going to call me piggy, and he's not going to do this or that or whatever. I mean, you know, just some of that childish stuff. Andy doesn't engage in childishness, so you got to give him credit for just acting like an adult now, unlike most.
- [34:01]
Matt Jones
People on radio, your political beliefs are harder to sort of tie down. No, I mean that, like. I mean, everybody would know. Everybody would know that I'm a Democrat. And, like, there are people on. In Louisville that are Republican. I make fun of Vanetti saying he's, like, gotten this little MAGA conspiracy theory streak in him. I've never really totally known what you are. If I had to guess, you're a little more Republican than Democrat. But I don't always know, which I think is a testament to you. So how would you describe yourself?
- [34:39]
Terry Meiners
I'm a Catholic, and that, to me is more important than choosing a political side.
- [34:46]
Matt Jones
Okay. I.
- [34:47]
Terry Meiners
That's my. And I don't push religion on anybody anytime. I just. I want to feel calm. You were just talking about calmness. That's where I find the centering is thinking about people that are suffering, people that are having challenges. I say my prayers at night. I wish the best for them. I don't really get into all that. I mean, I see it, I take it in, and I. And I have. And I make cracks about it on the air, but they don't really mean anything to me. I'm never deeply attached to anybody in politics.
- [35:22]
Matt Jones
And that's how we used to be, though. Like, it used to be that people had their beliefs, but they didn't become attached to personalities. And I think one of the changes in politics is that now people are attached to people. People more than ideas. Right. So rather than saying, I am someone who believes in tax cuts or in universal health care, it's, I love Trump, I hate Trump, I whatever. And it's about the person, and then that person's views can just flip, and then the people follow whatever they say. That's. I think not good, right?
- [36:00]
Terry Meiners
Yeah. And I get email or whatever people get in DMs and they write things, you know, you conservative. This, you know, you vile liberal. Well, I have this thing in my house every day when I finish exercise, I walk up steps. I have a couple things. There's a hate letter from a woman that's framed. We have a little shelf there. And it's just. They make me laugh. And there's a big email with font that must be 48 size, and it says your. What am I allowed to say on this show, by the way?
- [36:30]
Matt Jones
We can beep it. Go for it. We can beep it.
- [36:33]
Terry Meiners
Your show sucks, you liberal P word. And then he signs it Bob. And I look at that every day.
- [36:40]
Matt Jones
I like that he signed it Bob, though, you liberal P word, Bob. I like that.
- [36:49]
Terry Meiners
But the font was so big. It was just like, what are you shouting? What did I say? I don't even know what you're referencing. So people, they get mad at me on both sides, but that's those fringe people that they can't be happy at. Eating a ham sandwich without thinking about Trump makes me sick.
- [37:07]
Matt Jones
But I noticed you still didn't tell me what you are, what you are like.
- [37:12]
Terry Meiners
Because, I mean, the Courier Journal outed me years ago. I'm a registered Democrat. They went through a bunch of different people and said.
- [37:22]
Matt Jones
How did you. Okay, gotcha.
- [37:25]
Terry Meiners
They did. I mean, because I don't want to be labeled. I like to talk to everybody. I want to hear what they have to say. And I'm not the story. I'm trying to get people to pour their information.
- [37:37]
Matt Jones
That's a good thing.
- [37:38]
Terry Meiners
Enough.
- [37:39]
Matt Jones
That's a good old school view. I like that you said. But when I did ask you what you were, you said at firstly a Catholic. So it's important. I would think that. So, like, take my parents. The thing that bothers my mom and dad the most about Donald Trump is not really his views. It's just his callousness and meanness. And I think it comes from their religion. They don't like how he treats people. They don't like how he talks to people, and they don't like just how mean he is. And they are not Catholic, they're Protestant, but they are like you. And the first thing they would say is, I'm a Christian. That's how they would start their thing. You like entertainment. There's no doubt he's entertaining.
- [38:30]
Terry Meiners
That's right.
- [38:31]
Matt Jones
Does it make you. But do you. Does the Catholic in you cringe at how mean he Is there's no doubt.
- [38:38]
Terry Meiners
About that, that I just shake my head and think, why is that necessary to say that? And you're right, because what I do for a living, I get sound bites that I get to play on the air and use as, you know, as my own contribution to culture by saying this and then maybe making a comment about it. But, I mean, he's putting fuel in my gas tank by saying crazy things. So is that right for me to use Trump's insult sometimes in a thing? I don't know.
- [39:10]
Matt Jones
It is.
- [39:11]
Terry Meiners
I go to confession.
- [39:13]
Matt Jones
You're an entertainer. But I do think, like, I don't think society's better because of how mean he is. Like, everybody can argue about whether or not it's better because of the policies. I would say no, but other people might disagree. But I don't. I think objectively the meanness has made society coarser and worse. I'm not a prude. I don't care what people do. But you don't have to be cruel when you do it.
- [39:43]
Terry Meiners
Yeah. I mean, again, read the messaging that you get. I get Vanetti gets other people. Anybody across the air. There's a woman on TV somewhere. I saw her video clip this week. She read the insults that were coming to her because she's, she's not rail thin. And, you know, I. I wish you'd go after me as hard as you do those midnight snacks or whatever. She read her the insults on tv.
- [40:07]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [40:07]
Terry Meiners
And I was like, good for her.
- [40:09]
Matt Jones
Jimmy Kimmel has a great bit where people come on and read that. And, And I actually think it's actually, they get. It's really funny when you look, when you look at the world now. So let's do Terry Miners on pop culture. Do you watch television?
- [40:26]
Terry Meiners
Very little. I love sports. I mean, I'm in on sports.
- [40:29]
Matt Jones
So you're still into sports, even with the nil sometimes, like, the daddy's always like, I'm done with sports. College sports. I still think they're great. But do you.
- [40:37]
Terry Meiners
I watched the Cats last night. They blew out North Carolina Central. Yeah. And. And, you know, I was interested just to see how. How big the deal was going to be and what adjustments Mark Pope was going to make. And he did. And he obviously sat down. Some guys, he. He yelled at Garrison for not chasing that guy down. And it's like he's coaching the team. And so I love all that stuff. I watched Indiana a couple of times. And then. So now Kentucky and Indiana get out of this Saturday. It's going to Be interesting to see you say.
- [41:07]
Matt Jones
You always say you like both Kentucky and Louisville. I call bs. You're not allowed to like both of them. That's my view. I've. I never trust anyone who likes them both. But I actually think you do genuinely like them both. Am I right?
- [41:21]
Terry Meiners
I do. I love Kentucky. And I've had some U of L stuff up in my dorm room when I went there. Just wasn't as hateful then. But. But still.
- [41:30]
Matt Jones
So you root for them both if they don't play each other.
- [41:34]
Terry Meiners
Yeah, but, but, but the thing about me is once the game's over, it's like, okay, the game's over. I don't let it ruin the. The next three hours of my life or the next day. There's too many other things going on. There's too much joy to be found in life.
- [41:49]
Matt Jones
So you don't let a lot. Like, so a big loss. You don't. You just get over it immediately. I don't know how you do that. Like, it ruins my day.
- [41:57]
Terry Meiners
I like a battle. I mean, Monday Night Football was great. I didn't have a stake in that, emotionally. The Chargers and the.
- [42:03]
Matt Jones
You're a big packers fan, right? Aren't you a big Packer?
- [42:05]
Terry Meiners
I do love the Packers. That's the one. I will admit to. That is one that does affect me a little bit. That has to do with my childhood.
- [42:12]
Matt Jones
Okay. You.
- [42:14]
Terry Meiners
I think that's. Watching NFL with my dad is probably what that's about.
- [42:18]
Matt Jones
Connection to your dad. That makes sense. But you are.
- [42:20]
Terry Meiners
None of the other stuff hurts me.
- [42:22]
Matt Jones
Do you. Do you like how crazy Aaron Rodgers is? I mean, you've had. You've had two great quarterbacks. That their post career was a little, you know, Brett Favre. Rodgers, like, is that. Does that bother you at all?
- [42:37]
Terry Meiners
The Brett Favre thing that bothers me is the money out of the Mississippi public schools. Things like dude not texting.
- [42:43]
Matt Jones
Not texting his genitalia. There was the.
- [42:45]
Terry Meiners
Well, that's not good either. But. But stealing money from. And then pretending like you didn't know. What? I didn't understand the text from the. Yeah, you did.
- [42:55]
Matt Jones
Yeah.
- [42:55]
Terry Meiners
I mean, that's silly. Well, you're not nine years old and you didn't understand the rules, so that's a disappointment to me. Aaron Rodgers kookiness is, I think, great theater. I don't know what he's going to do. I'm glad he's still in there with the Steelers because he's going to do something goofy and then we'll get to.
- [43:12]
Matt Jones
Are you going to listen to his inevitable conspiracy theory podcast that he hosts when he retires? Is Terry Miners going to be a subscriber?
- [43:21]
Terry Meiners
I saw McAfee the other day, had Jordan Love on and I know McAfee's just sitting there like, gosh, this is so boring because he doesn't have Aaron Rogers saying crazy things. I was talking to a guy on Jupiter last night.
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Pressure is coming down.
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What do you think about, like, I mean, as an old school radio guy like yourself, what do you think about the McAfee's Rogans, Theo Vaughn's, the kind of new age of media. Do you like it? Do you not like it? It's different, but it's also, I think, expanded the world of audio, no doubt about it.
- [47:15]
Terry Meiners
Those guys are great for it. There, there are a lot of women with powerful podcasts as well.
- [47:20]
Matt Jones
Alex Cooper, and there's a lot of people. Yes.
- [47:24]
Terry Meiners
Yeah, I think McAfee is great because, and I know you would appreciate this, he's like a wrestling star. I know he was an NFL.
- [47:32]
Matt Jones
Yes. He's also does wrestling. He does wrestling.
- [47:35]
Terry Meiners
Oh, he does. Okay. Because he uses wrestling methodology to, to draw attention and to whoop up crowds. And that's great. I mean, that's, that's, that's great show business. I mean, it's funny, when he first started appearing on College Game Day, you could see the other guys just standing there turning and looking at him like, what have we done here? You know, it's like they ended up.
- [47:56]
Matt Jones
Being perfect for it. And I'm not even a huge fan of his, but he's per. I think he's actually better on College Game Day than anything else he does. I think that is like made for him that sort of. There's all these people in the crowd, you know, that's just him. And I actually think it's perfect. Perfect for him.
- [48:17]
Terry Meiners
Joe Rogan gets a little rough on certain things sometimes and is a bit of a know it all, but he does do homework too.
- [48:23]
Matt Jones
He's also a know it all and an idiot, which is a tough combination, it really is.
- [48:27]
Terry Meiners
But you know, if it inspires Dialogue. Okay, that's true.
- [48:31]
Matt Jones
I do like that about him. He does have people talk. So you're not somebody who thinks. There were, especially years ago, broadcasters who were like, I don't like the podcast people. They're not trained, et cetera. You don't feel. You've never felt like that?
- [48:44]
Terry Meiners
No, absolutely not. The more voices, the better. Is that. I told you, the only thing that just drives me nuts is all these people with the phone right in front of their face, and they're, you know, they got a crooked tooth and a big wart and they're going. They're screaming like maniacs. And it's like, does this really sway anyone? I mean, is this a. Is this a Halloween horror house? What is going on here?
- [49:07]
Matt Jones
If you. We've been able to make successful this medium that people think is dead, which is like talk radio. But if you were to say the thing that radio needs to change the most, to sort of keep up with the times, what do you think that is? I mean, I've just sort of, even on espn, I've made it to where I'm just going to do what I'm going to do, and people are either going to like it or not. But there's still this idea that you have to do it a certain way. Are you. Are you. What do you think radio needs to do or change in the coming years?
- [49:44]
Terry Meiners
First off, I love radio because it's the most intimate medium, without question. When I walk in the grocery store, people say hi to me. Now, I'm on TV a lot, so they. They're. They're used to seeing my face. But people will say to me, I heard you, you know, ask where the beans were, and I know your voice. And so it's like, wow, that's. That's something. It's like a fingerprint, you know, it's an indelible mark.
- [50:07]
Matt Jones
You said radio is the most intimate, though. It is like.
- [50:10]
Terry Meiners
It is.
- [50:11]
Matt Jones
You can hide who you are on television.
- [50:14]
Terry Meiners
Right.
- [50:14]
Matt Jones
But you can't hide who you are on the radio. Would you agree with that?
- [50:18]
Terry Meiners
Absolutely. Right. I equate hosting a show with flying an airplane on final approach for three hours every day. You are all attention in, all in all the time, and there's no way you can't be yourself. I mean, you couldn't. Nobody could act for that for, well, for me, nearly 50 years.
- [50:38]
Matt Jones
But does that leave you. Like, I've struggled over the years with, in order to do radio the way I want to do it, you have to be yourself, which for Me at least implies some amount of vulnerability. Right. Like you have to. You know, I mean, I. I just had this situation with my dad, Right. Where my dad is. Got a very serious health diagnosis. And because Kentucky had two major basketball games and because they were hiring a football coach, I couldn't just disappear. Even though I wanted to disappear, even though I wanted to do what most normal people do, which is just turn the world off. I felt like I had to say to people what was happening, even though I don't know that I wanted to, and I certainly don't know that my parents wanted to, but I felt like I had to. That's where it stinks. Have you. Do you feel like that at all?
- [51:46]
Terry Meiners
Good for you for doing the right thing. I mean, this is just a job. This puts cookies in the cupboard. Taking care of your parents is why you're on this earth. And that's. That's. We're all supposed to be of service to someone in some capacity. Not everyone's a parent, but you are of service to someone. And so that's much more pressing than any babbling about. Well, I can't believe Johnson only got nine rebounds.
- [52:15]
Matt Jones
Yeah, but I also, like, have had to almost like I've, like. All of my listeners know who my dad is, even though they don't. Even though he's never once appeared on the show. People feel like they do. And that's both good because they express such care for him, but also has made it to where this private person almost has his private issues known by a state of people. And that balance has always been hard for me. How do I talk about who I am while also trying to let. Maintain some privacy? Does that. I mean, have you ever had to deal with things like that?
- [53:00]
Terry Meiners
Both my parents are gone now, and it was just. Yeah, I had to. I had to talk.
- [53:04]
Matt Jones
Did you talk through it on the air?
- [53:06]
Terry Meiners
A little bit. I mean, it's tough because it's grueling. I was there when my father passed. It happened at three in the morning and he was at a place a mile away from the radio station. And I didn't know what else to do because we are. We are. We're animals drawn to what we do. I drove to the radio station and sat down and cried a little bit on the air with Tony the morning guy. And. But I told.
- [53:30]
Matt Jones
Your dad died at three. And you went on the radio that.
- [53:33]
Terry Meiners
Morning four hours later and just talk for a couple of minutes. And then I. Then I was gone for a week or so. But, I mean, I Just wanted the people to hear it from me. My dad was. It took him a while to get used to this. I know your mom and dad. I know how proud they are of you. They get, they get. You know, they just. If you could see your mother smile when you're there at KS Bar and you're. You're doing something or other and all these people are listening to you. And she just stands over there and she's got a smile on her face like she just won the lottery. She's looking at her boy, she loves you. And she's the sweetest person. She just texted me the other day and congratulated me on 40 years. And she's under all this pressure because of the medical situation, the family, but she thought about me and I thought, God, that's so huge. I appreciate that. Your, Your parents are the, the. The guiding lights that blaze the path that you're supposed to follow. And you honor them by living the best life you can. They brought you here.
- [55:00]
Matt Jones
You.
- [55:01]
Terry Meiners
You just, you gotta, you gotta do what's right or learn from mistakes to honor the legacy of your parents, your grandparents and so forth, right up the line. That's the way I feel. And so I love the way I see your mom and dad love you. I think about my own parents. My dad thought that radio was so stupid when I got in it. And I was in Lexington four years and when my dad would drive a truck overnight, he'd sleep all day. And you walk in our parents home in the middle of the day and if you heard Frank Sinatra singing the. It was on the oldies, you know, Manavani music station. The music would waft down from upstairs. And you think, I have to be quiet because Dan's sleeping. He's going to drive all night tonight. And so I take a job in Louisville and I, I walk in my parents home at 1 o' clock in the afternoon. What do I hear wafting down the steps? Pink Floyd. And I thought, good Lord, my father.
- [56:02]
Matt Jones
Loves me that he listened to you.
- [56:05]
Terry Meiners
That he was listening to hear me on a commercial or something. He just wanted to hear his kid's voice. And it's like, boom.
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Matt Jones
Yeah, okay, I'm done. No, I, I listen. That's beautiful. And my mom sits and listens to two hours of sports. And she doesn't even watch sports. She's never watched.
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Terry Meiners
She loves sports.
- [56:26]
Matt Jones
She would have watched no sports without, you know, I. But it is, it is. You get this in a way that a lot of people don't. It is hard to put yourself out there for the world. In times where you yourself are not 100% right, you don't get to go into a hole. You don't just get to go and say, you know what? I'm going to sit in my office today, close the door and not talk to people. And like, if you're going to do it the way I do it, which is I live my life on the air and I talk about what's going behind the scenes, et cetera. That's just sometimes you're just like, I don't want to do this, but I have to anyway. And that's tough.
- [57:19]
Terry Meiners
That's the trick about the clock. It shows up for you. 10am shows up whether or not Dave.
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Matt Jones
Letterman used to say about his show, we don't go on at 11:30 because the show is ready. We go on at 11:30 because it's 11:30. And there's a lot of truth to that.
- [57:39]
Terry Meiners
I feel that way about three o' clock every day. That's the same thing. And that's, that's the important metaphor too. Eventually the clock stops ticking for every one of us. So hopefully you've walked the path that I just described in the right direction. You have to feel good about that so that the people that are following you learn as well. And so I try to live by that. I've done so many dumb things in my life I'm sorry for, but I'm trying to stay on that path and move in the right direction. It's a way of honoring all who came before me.
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Matt Jones
Great stuff. You've got to do that here in just a few minutes. So I will let you go. Terry. Thank you very much and thank you all very much for listening to Interrupted by Matt Jones. We'll see you next week.
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Matt Jones
All.
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