Episode 32 - It's The News

Summary

Interrupted by Matt Jones – Episode 32: "It's The News"

Air Date: March 4, 2026
Host: Matt Jones
Co-hosts: Drew Franklin, Billy

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Episode Overview

In this lively, fast-moving episode, Matt Jones and co-hosts Drew Franklin and Billy return to their recurring “news” format, breaking down the week’s most headline-generating stories—and whatever else is trending or amusing on the internet. Mixing wit, skepticism, and candid “everyman” takes, the trio covers everything from war in Iran to midterm primaries, college sports funding, missing persons, the Jim Carrey clone conspiracy, and even the surprising political hopes of the ShamWow guy. The result is a comprehensive, entertaining view of America’s cultural, political, and sports landscape as of early March 2026.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Operation "Epic Fury": U.S. and Israel at War with Iran

[04:24 - 15:36]

• Main Points:

  • The U.S. and Israel have launched coordinated attacks on Iran, dubbed "Operation Epic Fury" ([04:24]).
  • Strikes included military bases, nuclear sites, and reportedly led to the death of Iran's supreme leader. In retaliation, Iran attacked several countries; 6 U.S. troops have died, some from Kentucky.
  • President Trump says operation may last 4–5 weeks, with potential to extend ([05:34]).
  • Ambiguity about whether this is officially a "war," with politics muddying the label.

• Matt's Take:
  “No one should have any sympathy for the Iranian leadership... But one thing history has shown us is that going to war in the Middle East has never really worked... you can dominate a country, but unless you know the answer to what's next... we're still in Afghanistan... So I think this is a terrible decision.” ([06:03 - 07:47])

• Panel Skepticism:

  • Public opposition: "The last I saw, 60% of people are against it." ([07:47])
  • Media spin and circular justification—Matt lampoons the shifting justifications from leaders like Rubio and Lindsey Graham ([09:25 - 10:35]).
  • Consensus among the hosts: It’s an unpopular war with confused messaging and unknown long-term consequences.
  • Drew raises oil politics; Matt counters the oil consequences will hit Europe and denies it’s primarily about oil ([11:14]).

• Underlying Themes:

  • The enduring dilemma of “regime change” without clear follow-through.
  • Increasing public and generational skepticism toward US military intervention: “I'm getting the run around on why we're in this war... Let me support or not support it based on the actual reasons, not for reasons I don't know." – Drew ([16:08]).

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2. The 2026 Midterm Primaries: Texas, Runoff Elections, and ShamWow Candidates

[22:49 - 34:37]

• Main Points:

  • Highlights from Texas: Republican Senate primary heads to a runoff as no one passed 50%. On the Democratic side, James Talarico defeats Jasmine Crockett ([23:11]).
  • Matt praises Talarico’s blend of faith and politics, likening his rise to a favorite underground band “blowing up” ([23:29]).
  • Discussion about runoff elections—initially created in the South with racist intent, but Matt believes they now improve democracy by requiring a true majority ([25:09 - 27:52]).
  • The powers and pitfalls of ballot nicknames: The ShamWow guy (Vince Offer) runs for office, tries to get his infomercial persona on the ballot; the hosts debate nicknames as a tool for candidate recognition ([29:16 - 32:52]).

• Quotes:

  • “If you were on the ShamWow infomercials, like, we need to know that was you.” – Matt ([31:06])
  • "You should be able to give your opponent a nickname... but you each get to give each other one nickname." – Billy ([32:52])

• Other Tidbits:

  • Former MLB player Mark Teixeira wins GOP nomination for Congress, sparking jokes about pro athletes dominating the congressional baseball game and what that means for political matchups ([34:37 - 37:19]).

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3. The Clinton–Epstein Deposition: Congressional Spectacles

[39:30 - 44:43]

• Main Points:
  • Congressional panel releases hours of deposition footage with Bill and Hillary Clinton regarding Jeffrey Epstein ([39:30]).
  • Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert leaks a photo from inside the closed hearing, breaking protocol ([40:19]).
  • The hosts note Clinton’s experience at skirting controversy and veteran political “lying,” with Matt wryly observing, "The Clintons are professional liars. Say no hobby. Like, if there's a hall of fame of lying, Bill Clinton is a first ballot inductee..." ([41:36])
  • Bill Clinton found too happy when shown old photos, especially those with a hot tub ([42:14]), to which Billy adds: “Maybe don’t smile that much. I’ll just tell you not to smile like that.” ([42:23])

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4. Holding Parents Responsible in School Shooting Cases

[47:37 - 53:17]

• Main Points:
  • Colin Gray, father of school shooter Colt Gray, convicted for purchasing son a rifle despite FBI warnings; faces second degree murder and negligent homicide charges.
  • The hosts support parental liability in egregious negligence cases.
    “Parents have to have some responsibility... if you do it and this happens. I think you have to face the consequences also.” – Billy ([50:45])
  • Broader debate on gun culture, responsible storage, and absurdity of gifting assault weapons to youth.

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5. Missing Persons: Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Disappearance

[56:34 - 59:21]

• Main Points:
  • Ongoing search for Nancy Guthrie, mother of Today Show’s Savannah Guthrie, with no breakthroughs after a month despite technological surveillance.
  • Hosts express genuine surprise and concern over inability to track suspects in a world awash with cameras and digital footprints:
    “I thought they could find anyone in just a matter of days that they needed to find. So this one's really got me puzzled...” – Billy ([57:27])

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6. Jim Carrey “Clone” Conspiracies

[59:28 - 64:33]

• Main Points:
  • Jim Carrey appears at French Caesar Awards looking markedly different, sparking online cloning and impersonator rumors ([59:28]).
  • Panel debunk: It’s likely bad plastic surgery and aging, not sci-fi-level replacement.
    “I just think he got a horrible, horrible plastic surgery job. And it’s so bad that the Internet thinks that there’s a new Jim Carrey walking around.” – Billy ([61:58])
  • Recap of Carrey’s career arc and pop-culture legacy, with Matt’s favorites: “Eternal Sunshine, Truman Show, Man on the Moon—pretty amazing three movie set.” ([64:05])

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7. College Sports Funding Crisis and NIL

[65:22 - 73:19]

• Main Points:
  • University of Louisville publishes a letter warning that college athletics' financial model is “unsustainable,” calling for Congressional intervention, national NIL rules, and spending caps ([65:22]).
  • Matt, after seeing the letter's author is friend Larry Benz (OVW owner), softens but notes the real issue is that smaller programs want SEC/Big Ten schools to share revenue—an “American League East vs. Central” analogy ([68:24]).
  • The hosts agree the funding gap is real but question whether overspending and self-inflicted wounds are at play:
    “Feels like a counter is just spend 155 [million]. No one made you spend the extra $12 million.” – Matt ([69:34])
  • Broader discussion: Is the “greater good” having top players keep their value, or institutions pooling profits for less prominent sports?
    “...the supporters of capitalism tend to be the biggest people in favor of socialism in sports.” – Matt ([72:16])

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8. Daylight Savings Debate: Should It Stay or Go?

[73:22 - 77:18]

• Main Points:
  • Daylight Savings Time approaches; Congress mulls a “Daylight Act” to create a permanent 30-minute time shift as compromise ([73:22]).
  • The hosts are split or indifferent, with Matt comically neutral:
    “I’ll take an opinion on a lot of things, but on this I will defer to Donald Trump—to the sun. Whatever the sun wants to do.” ([77:16])

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9. Dictionary.com’s “Winter Word Drop”

[77:19 - 81:27]

• Main Points:
  • 1500 new words added, including “Swifty,” “Beehive,” “Trekkie,” “glamazon,” “frame mogged,” and more ([77:30]).
  • Matt and Billy lament linguistic drift and bemoan modern slang:
    “We’re just getting dumber with our words... now we’re just frame moggin and Jane Iten.” – Billy ([79:19])
  • Nostalgia for old newspapers and how future generations will struggle for meaningful memorabilia in the digital age ([81:00]).

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10. On-the-Fly News: Stephen A. Smith vs. The Pelicans’ Social Media

[83:16 - 87:09]

• Main Points:
  • The crew lets Twitter or whatever is trending decide their 10th story, landing on Stephen A. Smith’s beef with the New Orleans Pelicans after they mock his basketball stats ([83:16]).
  • Stephen A. declares himself more popular than any Pelican—a claim the hosts skewer.
    “I'm more popular than Walker Horn. What does that say?” – Matt ([85:50])
  • Speculation on sports personalities entering politics: “Stephen A. didn’t run. Bruce Pearl didn’t run. Paul Finebaum didn’t run. Now, Mark Teixeira... ShamWow guy.” – Matt ([86:14])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On War in Iran: “We learned with Iraq... you can dominate a country, but unless you know the answer to what’s next... we may be there through eternity, we're not there as much as we were. But... I think this is a terrible decision.” – Matt ([06:03])
• On Ballot Nicknames: “If you were on the ShamWow infomercials, like, we need to know that was you.” – Matt ([31:06])
• On the Clinton Deposition: “The Clintons are professional liars. Say no hobby. Like, if there's a hall of fame of lying, Bill Clinton is a first ballot inductee...” – Matt ([41:36])
• On Parental Liability: “Parents have to have some responsibility in their kids’ upbringing... if you do it and this happens. I think you have to face the consequences also.” – Billy ([50:45])
• On Jim Carrey’s Appearance: “I think my man just got some terrible plastic surgery.” – Billy ([61:01])
• On College Sports Socialism: “The supporters of capitalism tend to be the biggest people in favor of the socialism in sports.” – Matt ([72:16])
• On Daylight Saving Time: “I’ll take an opinion on a lot of things, but on this I will defer to Donald Trump—to the sun. Whatever the sun wants to do.” – Matt ([77:16])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro and banter: [01:55 - 02:52]
• Epic Fury/Iran War Discussion: [04:24 - 15:36]
• Texas Primaries, Runoffs, Nicknames: [23:06 - 34:37]
• Clinton/Epstein Congressional Deposition: [39:30 - 44:43]
• Parental Responsibility in School Shootings: [47:37 - 53:17]
• Savannah Guthrie’s Missing Mother: [56:34 - 59:21]
• Jim Carrey “Clone” Theories: [59:28 - 64:33]
• College Sports NIL/Finance: [65:22 - 73:19]
• Daylight Saving Time Debate: [73:22 - 77:18]
• New Dictionary Words: [77:19 - 81:27]
• Stephen A. Smith vs. Pelicans’ Social Team: [83:16 - 87:09]

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Overall Tone & Style

Catchy, irreverent, and conversational with frequent cultural references, self-deprecating humor, and skepticism about the “official story” in politics and media. The panel constantly balances personal anecdote, audience surrogacy (“young podcasty American male”), historical perspective, and Kentucky flavor.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode serves as a lively primer on current affairs from war zones abroad to ballot shenanigans at home, spiced with offbeat news, sports jokes, and unapologetic realtalk about the absurdities of politics, media, and American life in 2026. The hosts’ accessible but well-informed banter makes even heavy topics approachable—and always leaves room for the “newsworthy” intrigue of the moment, whether it’s the stare of a wrestle-heel principal, the fate of Jim Carrey’s cheeks, or the latest social media squabble between sports TV blowhards and pro teams. If you want opinionated Kentucky-flavored news with range, wit, and little patience for B.S., Episode 32 delivers.

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[Drew Franklin]

now here's Matt Jones.

[Matt Jones]

Episode 32 by Matt Jones and we are here on kind of a rainy day right before, you know, conference tournament week get started. Matt Jones and Drew Franklin and Billy, we're going to do some news. Drew, we haven't had news in a while. I don't know if you've noticed since we haven't had it, a lot of stuff has happened.

[Billy]

I've just been walking around aimlessly like where is the news? What is going on?

[Matt Jones]

This is all going to surprise you, but Billy has has gone through the news headlines he has picked. He only found nine things that he thought were newsworthy. There is, in Billy's opinion, there are only nine news stories.

[Billy]

It tells me we have room to Bring up our own topic.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, do you have. Well, but you don't know anything, because there.

[Billy]

I just mean, like, would you literally just ramble about anything in the 10 spot?

[Matt Jones]

That's true. That's true. Maybe that. Maybe news will happen in the next hour. I'll tell you what. For the 10th spot, I'll just. Whatever is the first thing I see on Twitter will be the tenth piece of news.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Like, if we were to do. If we were to. If I were to have. Doing it right now, it would be that NBC Sports has hired Jason Benetti as it's play by play baseball announcer.

[Billy]

I have a hard time with that one.

[Matt Jones]

That would be the tenth piece of news.

[Billy]

But maybe still time for something else,

[Matt Jones]

something bigger to break. Do you even know who Jason Bonnetti is?

[Billy]

No. Respectfully, to him, congratulations. I just don't have a lot to offer to that conversation. I'm sure it's an awesome move for him.

[Matt Jones]

Piece of news. Okay. Because that's.

[Billy]

Thank God.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so let's get started. Billy, I'm gonna guess that the biggest topic is Iran. Am I right?

[Billy]

It is.

[Drew Franklin]

But I do want to say Jason does a great job on the White Sox broadcast, and I'm glad he's coming to NBC.

[Billy]

I know who he is now. The name didn't get me. I know exactly who it is.

[Matt Jones]

How do you know what he does on the White Sox broadcast? Are you watching a lot of White Sox?

[Drew Franklin]

No, but he's. He's pretty popular as announcers go. And I know that's kind of where he.

[Matt Jones]

Did you say on the off chance he would hear this, he wouldn't hold it against you?

[Drew Franklin]

No, no. But I'd love to meet him someday. Seems like a really nice guy. Hand him a business card, a digital business card. Handed him nothing.

[Billy]

He's the guy with the glasses, right?

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

He's very dorky.

[Billy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm familiar with him.

[Matt Jones]

So he's good. So I do watch a lot of White Sox games.

[Drew Franklin]

No, no, I've just heard him on other sports. He's. He's branched out a little bit.

[Matt Jones]

What else does he do?

[Drew Franklin]

I believe he's done basketball as well.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. We've actually given a lot of attention to this in the news, and it's not even an official.

[Billy]

Maybe it is now. Maybe we unintentionally made it a topic.

[Matt Jones]

Congrats to Jason Benetti, Billy's favorite White Sox announcer. All right, what is the first piece?

[Drew Franklin]

But, yeah, starting with the news, it has to be with the War with Iran. The United States and Israel launched coordinated strikes at Iran, known as Operation epic fury on February 28th. Their attacks targeted military.

[Matt Jones]

Name, by the way, good name.

[Billy]

I like the movie Fury. War movie. Back in the day, I thought Fury

[Matt Jones]

was in that Brad Pitt. I don't remember that. What war?

[Billy]

That was one of them.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I don't remember Fury.

[Billy]

You're saying it's good, though, but the name is intimidating.

[Matt Jones]

Epic Fury. Sounds like. That sounds to me like a video game. Like, I think they ended up just getting somebody at the department of now War to go. What sounds Alpha Epic Fury.

[Billy]

I think they had just seen the Brad Pitt movie, maybe so.

[Matt Jones]

All right, so keep going.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. So they attacked military bases, nuclear sites, and Iranian leadership on that day and included the death of Iran's supreme leader. But in response, Iran launched missiles at several ne neighboring countries in the Middle East. Six US Troops have been killed. And Andy Bashir announced that some of the soldiers were based in Kentucky that were killed in the conflict. President Trump.

[Matt Jones]

I didn't know that. Okay. I didn't hear that.

[Drew Franklin]

President Trump announced that this operation would take about four to five weeks, but the US Is prepared to go longer if needed. This. We are at war right now, Matt.

[Matt Jones]

Well, they. They don't. Some of it. It's funny. They go back and forth on whether or not we're at war. Sometimes they come out and say, we are at war. But because the Constitution requires Congress to approve war, then it's like other people are like, well, wait a minute. We're not at war.

[Billy]

It's a conflict.

[Matt Jones]

So Hegseth comes out with his muscles and his hair, and he's like, we're at war. And we're gonna use Epic Fury of. And then there'll be another, like, nerd come out and go, we're actually not at war. We're in a military operation. And so what's the difference? It's very different. So, you know, all right, there's a lot of ways you could go about this. First of all, no one should have any sympathy for the Iranian leadership. They have been awful and have killed tens of thousands of their people. So as we discuss this, I'm in no way pro the Iranian leadership. And it will be better for Iran in theory, if they were not the leaders. But one thing history has showed us is that going to war in the Middle east has never really worked going back to Napoleon. I mean, really, you go through history. All great powers have thought they could control what would happen in the Middle east. And it has Never worked ever in history, so. And we learned with Iraq the last time that you can dominate a country, but unless you know the answer to what's next, I mean, we're still in Afghanistan, and they actually attacked us, and we're still there. And we may be there through eternity, we're not there as much as we were. But. So I think this is a terrible decision. I think a lot of America does. The last I saw, 60% of people are against it. What do you think?

[Billy]

Yeah. None of us like war. And a lot of the sites we're seeing a lot of these casualties, some, maybe even kids. I saw today they released a video of, like, we torpedoed a ship. Hadn't been done since, like, World War II. I mean, this feels like.

[Matt Jones]

Well, if you're torpedoing a ship, it's hard to say it's not war in international waters.

[Billy]

It feels a lot bigger than some of the conflicts we've had in the last few years spreading across the region.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I wasn't the whole reason. People who voted for Trump, part of why they did it is he said there would be no new wars.

[Drew Franklin]

Peace Party.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Which was always ridiculous. I mean, there's the Republican Party. I mean, I'm not saying the Democrat Party nowadays is a peace party, but the Republicans are not a peace party. Trump claimed to be the peace president. I think he's going to have a hard time with that Nobel Peace Prize now.

[Billy]

And he's got some old tweets about how you shouldn't do this. There's old tweets for everything.

[Matt Jones]

Criticized Obama for doing it. He criticized Biden for doing it. You know, this is gonna be. We're gonna be dealing with this for years. Also, they claimed that they obliterated Iran's nuclear weapons in 2025. And then they came out and said, well, we had to make sure they don't have nuclear weapons. But then they came out and said, no, wait a minute. They didn't have nuclear weapons. We had to do it so that they won't have nuclear weapons.

[Billy]

They won't make nuclear weapons.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, but you could use that as a reason to do it in perpetuity, because they always could.

[Billy]

The moment they start to build a factory. Nope.

[Matt Jones]

And then Rubio comes out and says, we did it because we knew Israel was going to attack Iran and they would respond by attacking our bases. So we had to preemptively respond to their response, which made it look like we just do whatever Israel wants, which people didn't like that. So Then he came out and said, no, we were going to do it, but Israel did it first. But we were going to do it. So we did it. Which of course then that means we attack, which means you have to go to Congress. They can't get their story straight. And it's because here's my guess, there are people that really wanted to do it. Lindsey Graham is the most war hawking human being that has ever walked the earth. He convinced Trump to do this. Trump did it, and now they're scrambling, going, okay, how do we justify what was basically just his change of mind? And you get all these different explanations.

[Billy]

And the guys that quietly lean towards going into war, they can't just come out and be pro war.

[Matt Jones]

No one's Lindsey Graham is.

[Billy]

But I mean, some of the things that have happened, I mean, you can't like celebrate any of this going. Even if you think it should be happening, it's still awful and tragic that you're having to go through this. So that's why their messaging is just all messed up, because none of them have the right way to explain.

[Matt Jones]

And this doesn't feel like a war America wants. It doesn't to me. And it feels like I've always thought that the whole America is told by Israel what to do. I've always thought that that not only was not particularly true, it was also, there's anti Semitic tones to some of that. And I still think that's not 100% true. But I do think Netanyahu clearly talked Trump into this.

[Drew Franklin]

Do you think this is an oil play at all?

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

With the strait of her muse and.

[Matt Jones]

Well, but that oil prices are going to go way up. They're going to go way up.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, but it's China that now can't get the oil.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, Venezuela, Europe, Europe is going to be the one that really gets hit. Europe's oil prices are gonna go skyrocket. No, I think they did it because Israel believes that their path to safety is to wipe out these countries. I mean, it's what Netanyahu's wanted to do for 35 years. And he finally, I mean, he said this on Sean Hannity. He was like, I've been trying to do this for 40 years and finally found a president that would do it.

[Drew Franklin]

He said that?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, basically go look at his interview. He essentially said, we've wanted to do this for 40 years. And finally someone did. And I think that's what I think Lindsey Graham would agree, you know, but J.D. vance, his whole thing was no war. And then he's out there like that. It is absurd. And unfortunately we have six Americans that have died. There'll be more. Because how, how do you make sure whoever's next is not worse?

[Drew Franklin]

Right. You can't.

[Jacob Goldstein]

How.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, that's what happened in Iraq. The only way to prevent that from happening is to put troops on the ground and get Americans killed. If we put troops on the ground, we can probably keep someone worse from taking charge. But we're going to have people die and we're going to be in a never ending war.

[Billy]

And that's what, you know, just all of us, no one wants Americans, anyone dying and things like this. And you're looking at the news and I saw Pete Hegseth today is basically like we're just getting started. Like he was not well, he's, he was not denying that this is going to end anytime soon.

[Matt Jones]

Example of Lindsey Graham, like he's just blood.

[Billy]

Like that's I think even said we're accelerating this.

[Matt Jones]

There are people in that administration who I think think this is a bad idea, but they're too scared to say it. There are certainly people on the right who are against it. Right. I mean there are a lot of right wing commentators, but a lot of them don't want to criticize Trump because they're all so scared of him. I mean, they're all so scared of him. And there are some criticizing it. Not a lot, but there are some. Tucker Carlson would be one, but there aren't a lot. But this is going to be a disaster in terms of what's next. I mean, of course we can overtake them. We have much more military. We can destroy that country if we want to. But then what happens next? You're creating a whole new generation of people who hate America. Right. And then what I don't have a sense of is what percentage of Iranians supported that regime and what didn't. I really don't know. I've looked for and I can't find it. The Iranians in America hate the regime, but that's because they all got run out. Right. So I don't have a sense of whether or not this will be a war of liberation. Like when we went into Iraq, most people wanted Saddam Hussein gone. I don't know if, I don't know if that's true or not about this. I know there are some people who want him to gone because he did all, you know, he killed all the students.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, like human rights, like the.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's what I'm saying. The treatment no one wants to weep for Khomeini.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

But the question is, what's next?

[Drew Franklin]

Hopefully not a years long war like Iraq.

[Matt Jones]

They didn't even decide. Did you see they were having a meeting to decide who was the next leader and Israel bombed that?

[Billy]

I didn't see that.

[Matt Jones]

They were having a meeting of like 90 clerics to decide who would be the next leader and I believe I saw Israel bomb that. So now, like, how are you going to decide? And if America put somebody in charge, that won't last. You think they're going to support the person we put in charge?

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Matt Jones]

The only way we can do that is if we put our troops on the ground. So I don't see how it. I mean, I'm not an expert. Next week I hope to have an expert on to talk about it. But Drew, I don't see how it ends positively.

[Billy]

And these conflicts have been going on for what seems like forever, and it just seems unlikely any of it's going to get fixed anytime soon. This is just another chapter in that ongoing saga, I believe.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What about you, Billy? I've said this before. You are kind of what I use for young, podcasty American male, a lot of whom went for Trump in 2024. What do you think about it? Because I get the sense your group of people really think this is a bad idea.

[Drew Franklin]

I think it's a bad idea. I'm confused on why they started the war. We talked about regime change. We've talked about them being an imminent threat to attack.

[Matt Jones]

Nobody believes that.

[Drew Franklin]

They haven't given us any evidence for that.

[Matt Jones]

And they've backed off from that because they know they don't have any evidence of that.

[Drew Franklin]

So I just feel like I'm getting the run around on why we're in this war. I mean, let me support or not support it based on the actual reasons, not for reasons I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

Do you care the argument that Democrats are always like, we have a process. Do you care that they didn't go through Congress?

[Drew Franklin]

I could go either way on that one. I think the president should have powers, but Trump feels like he's. He's got too much power right now. And I feel like he does not care about the processes that are already in place.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, they haven't gone through Congress for a war in a long time. And so to some extent, that constitutional requirement has just been ignored.

[Drew Franklin]

Are they symbolic?

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think the last one was what, World War II or the Korean War. But part of the reason you have that requirement, Drew, is so that you don't get into these never ending conflicts. And at some point the American people get to vote on whether or not they want to do it. You know.

[Billy]

Yeah, I think we're getting farther and farther away from our checks and balances in our constitution. So I side with that. I would like to think we still go by the necessary procedures, but I think that's been a charade.

[Matt Jones]

A long time would have passed. I mean the Republicans are in charge. I mean maybe Thomas Massie and some, you know, some of those people vote against it, but like, but if they do, then that should say that Americans don't want it.

[Billy]

How long Process.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's the process.

[Drew Franklin]

How long does that process take? Like is there an argument that you need to act quickly? And I can't wait for Congress.

[Matt Jones]

If the president, if they could show that we were about to be attacked, then yes, but does anyone believe that?

[Drew Franklin]

I haven't seen evidence yet.

[Matt Jones]

Does anyone believe we are about to be attacked? Part of the problem is the president lies so much that we can't really believe anything he said. So he said in 2025 we obliterated their nuclear regime. Well, if that's true, then we didn't need to do this.

[Billy]

Then we're good.

[Matt Jones]

If that's false, then why did he say it?

[Billy]

And that's a pretty big lie.

[Matt Jones]

Exactly. So I have no idea. I mean I've seen people say, well, Matt, you don't know what the President knows. Fair. But do you believe what he says? No matter anyway, even if you like him. Does anybody really believe him?

[Drew Franklin]

It's a reality show every day.

[Matt Jones]

Do you, I mean, do you believe anything he says?

[Drew Franklin]

I take everything with a grain of salt. Yeah, everything.

[Matt Jones]

And I think honestly, every American does, even his supporters, it doesn't really matter. Well, that makes it hard to then make a judgment, Drew, of whether or not this is a good idea.

[Billy]

Yeah. And I mean just the example of all right, we're good, they're not a threat. We got it all to all right, they're a threat again. And that even been a calendar year. That's a pretty big talking out of both sides of your mouth.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, well, you know, the. I don't know. In, in at least when we fought Iran in the 80s, the iron chic came out of it as a wrestling.

[Billy]

We used to really lean into those characters.

[Matt Jones]

They don't do that anymore. They used to basically whoever we. I mean. Sgt. Well, the Iron Sheik, by the way, in the 80s was Iranian. But then when the Gulf War happened. He just became Colonel Mustafa, an Iraqi. And if anyone who knows the Middle East, Iraq and Iran don't like each other, he was both. He was. And they just expect. Well, I mean, he used to be Iranian. Now he's Iraqi.

[Billy]

Who doesn't like us. Tomorrow he'll be that. We'll just keep changing.

[Matt Jones]

I don't do that as much anymore. I think the last time they did it was after 9, 11. They had a. They had a Muslim wrestler. Have you ever seen that?

[Billy]

No, I don't remember that one.

[Matt Jones]

Bad.

[Billy]

That would have been when I was watching, too.

[Matt Jones]

It was a bad idea. It was more like 2003, 2004. I can't remember the guy's name. He came through OVW and they would have. It's awful in hindsight. You look at it and you go, I cannot believe they did that. Because they would come out and his entrance music were prayer chants. Wow. I'm serious. Look up his name. Look up, look up wwe. When they had. Because there have been. There have been. It's been a documentary, I think, about this WWE wrestler Muhammad Hassan. Hassan. Yes, that's it. And he was. He was an American.

[Billy]

He's born. He was from Syracuse, New York.

[Matt Jones]

Yes, he was in OVW. So he. From 2004, 2005. He played a Middle Eastern American, and it coincided with the bombings in London. It was terrible. If you watch it, you would go, I can't believe they did that.

[Billy]

I mean.

[Matt Jones]

And he would literally. He would come out to, like, Muslim chants and people would just boo. And he was wearing. What is it? Hajib or he was wearing?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Billy]

And. Oh, I get you're trying to rally the crowd around the American on your team, but maybe you can go a little far in the other direction.

[Matt Jones]

He was an OVW in 2002, 2003. He was our OVW heavyweight champion. But he wrestled then, just as his regular name. His name was Mark Mangus.

[Drew Franklin]

Not a wrestling name, but better than.

[Billy]

Seems like they made a big leap there.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. And then he came out in the segment, uh, and he. Oh, goodness. You read some of this. He, he. He would come out. Oh, I remember this. He would initially come out with the flag and he would praise Allah and people would boo. And then they stopped doing that because Muslims complained. Reasonable.

[Billy]

It's fair.

[Matt Jones]

And he would often interrupt other pro promos to come in and do his thing.

[Billy]

I have a positive update on Muhammad Hassan. Would you like to know?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. What's he doing?

[Billy]

He no longer wrestles due to his career as a school principal.

[Matt Jones]

Really?

[Billy]

He's a school principal? 2019, he became a principal. Takes it very seriously.

[Matt Jones]

Where at?

[Billy]

At Fulton Junior High in Fulton, New York.

[Matt Jones]

Wow.

[Billy]

So he moved from that to educating the youth.

[Matt Jones]

Maybe we should get him on the show.

[Drew Franklin]

I could have guessed all day school principal would not have come up.

[Billy]

I didn't have that either.

[Matt Jones]

Well, good for him. His picture is back. Is hanging backstage in our OVW hall of Fame.

[Drew Franklin]

As he should as a champion.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, Former champ. Well, anyway, I don't know what's going to happen with this, and I pray for all the people involved because it's. It's going to be. It's very scary. And I don't think any obvious end is. Is in sight. What's next?

[Drew Franklin]

The battle for Congress and the Senate is on. Matt, the first primaries.

[Matt Jones]

I love what you say.

[Drew Franklin]

I'm just trying to get you fired up. It is. Is for the news.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, thank you.

[Drew Franklin]

The first Primaries of the 2026 midterms were yesterday in several states, including Arkansas, Texas and North Carolina.

[Billy]

All right.

[Drew Franklin]

Not all the results are finalized, but there are some interesting takeaways.

[Matt Jones]

Well, give me.

[Drew Franklin]

Give me some of them, including in Texas, where the Republicans will have a runoff in the Senate primary as no candidate got above 50%. But what may make you happy, Matt, is that Texas Democrats voted James Talarico over Jasmine Crockett. He will look to be elected later this year.

[Matt Jones]

Well, first of all, he won. And a few weeks ago, he was 15 points behind. But the not being on Stephen Colbert probably helped him. I've liked this guy for two years. I would love to get him on a podcast. I've tried. It's hard to get in touch with. I love the fact that as a Democrat, he speaks about religion, he lives his faith. I've sent you Billy. You know, you've heard me talk about him for a while. I may. I'm a huge fan of him. I would suggest everybody go watch his Joe Rogan interview by the end of it. Joe Rogan said he wanted him to run for president. And I think he's great, and I think he lives his faith. And he's the first politician that I've really, like, really believed in in a long time. And, you know, maybe he'll disappoint me at some point. Probably he will, because every human being will if you look at him too much. But I just. I really like the guy. And I feel like, you know, when you listen to a band and then they blow up because I. I found this guy, like, two and a half

[Drew Franklin]

years ago, like Tyler Childers for you here.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. He was just a regular state rep in Texas. And I was like, that's my guy. And every time he. I could. Would see a video as I watch and I go, that's my. And I watched him kind of come up, and I think it's going to be awesome. And Jasmine Crockett would not have won the general election. He might not either. But I'm glad he won.

[Drew Franklin]

That was going to be my question. You think Texas could go blue?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know. It depends on who they pick on the other side because they're going into a runoff. So, Drew, do you like the idea of a runoff? If nobody gets 50% of the vote, they take the top two and they do it again.

[Billy]

I like that.

[Matt Jones]

You like that.

[Billy]

I like it a lot.

[Matt Jones]

Why?

[Billy]

Well, I feel like you need 50% to at least obviously have the majority.

[Matt Jones]

That's right.

[Billy]

And if there are too many candidates and you space it all out, you could still end up with one that not everybody wanted. So you've at least narrowed it down and made someone limit their choices, and at least you would get 50% of somebody, even if it's a little different.

[Matt Jones]

The system. Do you know how the system came about of runoffs? Yeah. It was to keep black candidates from getting elected. So the system.

[Billy]

Well, I'm against that.

[Matt Jones]

Well, but here's what's interesting. The system was created for kind of nefarious means, but. But I actually think it's a better system now. So it was almost all the states that do runoffs. Not all, but almost all of them are in the South. And it was because after the Civil War and Reconstruction, black candidates were winning, lots of people would run for office, and a lot of the black voters would all vote for one person and they'd win. And the white vote would be split. And white people didn't like that. So they would make it be the top two. So it would almost always be a black and white candidate. And then the runoff, the white candidate would usually win.

[Billy]

Well, not black versus white, but in my brain. No, no, I'm saying in my brain, I had a crazy candidate and three normal ones, and the normal split and all the crazies vote for the one crazy.

[Matt Jones]

I know that's what you meant. And I. What's interesting to me is it has now, but. So at the time, it had these nefarious reasons, but I actually think now it's better. I actually think the south, which is the place where they do it actually has the better system now because you can have multiple candidates run. It's not like in most elections where it's just Republican Democrats. Sometimes, like in California, in the governor's race, sometimes the top two are both Democrats. And then you can sit and say, well, do I want the liberal Democrat or do I want the conservative Democrat or moderate one. I actually think it produces a much better system. But it's just interesting that it started with these kind of racist reasonings. I think the best system is the primary is not. This is what California does. Primary is nonpartisan. Anyone can run.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

And then the top two, even if they're both in the same party, move on.

[Drew Franklin]

Really.

[Matt Jones]

And why that's good is if you're in a state like California where only Democrats win, the Republicans still have a voice when it gets down to two. You know what I mean?

[Drew Franklin]

Unlike Democrats in Kentucky.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, unlike. So, so think about in Kentucky, the Senate race, whoever wins the Republican primary is going to win. But what if you had a primary and after the primary was over, everyone had a choice as to whether it was Andy Barr or Nate Moore? You know what I mean?

[Drew Franklin]

I'd feel much more involved.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I like it. Even though it initially had these like racist roots, I actually think it's a better system.

[Drew Franklin]

Interesting.

[Matt Jones]

So the Republicans getting a runoff, you got this guy John Cornyn, who's been in office for 30 years. And then you got Kim Paxton, who like cheated on his wife a few years ago and is a Crook.

[Drew Franklin]

Welcome to 2020.

[Matt Jones]

And so they're going to go to the runoff and it'll be interesting to see a lot of the Republicans are worried if Paxton wins. My guy Talarico can beat him because Talarico is this like Christian guy. And then Paxton's out there, you know,

[Billy]

doing non Christian things.

[Matt Jones]

Look at these hoes.

[Billy]

Was that paid for by the.

[Matt Jones]

I think that was one of his ads.

[Billy]

He does the disclaimer at the end. Yeah, I would definitely not vote for that guy. On the runoff thing though. I do.

[Matt Jones]

I picture a scenario that was an official ad. Go ahead.

[Billy]

It was one of those. He had a pack that said it's one.

[Matt Jones]

It was the. Okay, stop. Go ahead.

[Billy]

I just picture like three very level headed intelligent candidates and most the population can't decide between them. And then you got this dude that's talking about reptile people and there's just enough crazies in the town.

[Matt Jones]

That's why you did it. Yeah, that's why you do it is it keeps you from Electing the crazy person. A couple other things from the Texas election. I mentioned this last night. Yeah. The guy that invented shamwow.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

He ran.

[Billy]

He's not the one in the commercial, though, right? He invented it and hired the.

[Matt Jones]

No, he was the guy.

[Billy]

Oh, that's him.

[Matt Jones]

The shamwow guy.

[Billy]

The shamwow guy ran. Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Yes. And his name. I can't remember what his name is, but his name was like. His name is not a name that you would know. Did the Shamweis.

[Billy]

Is it Vince. Vince Offer.

[Drew Franklin]

Vince Offer.

[Matt Jones]

That's Vince Offer. So he was not running well in the primary, so he petitioned the Texas Board of Elections to Let him be ShamWow offer. No, he wanted to be on the ballot as shamwow offered. There were eight candidates, and he thought

[Billy]

that, look, I know people can't see me, but he had that weird.

[Matt Jones]

Well, a lot of people could show up and go, all right, which of these guys am I voting for? Oh, ShamWow. That was, I think, his thought process. Texas shot it down, said he couldn't be shamwow. He ended up coming in sixth. Here's my question for you. Should the board of elections allow you to pick a nickname to put on the bout so that people know who you are?

[Billy]

Yes. We need the most. I think that in some cases, work against him. So if you wanted that out. But we need the most information we can about these candidates. If one of them were the guy that was on at three in the morning on Comedy Central all night long, I would need to know that. I need to know if the shamwow guy's in the mix or the awesome auger guy, or you name it.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So you're okay with it? Yeah, just to.

[Billy]

And, I mean, there needs to be some guidelines.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I mean, what's the guideline? Shamwow's pretty far on the spectrum, but

[Billy]

at least we, as a society, we know this. Yeah. I mean, you can't just call yourself Megadeth because you want to.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, if it's, like, part of your identity, why can't you call yourself Mega Death?

[Billy]

I think you're allowed if you were on the shamwow infomercials.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, so there's an official. If you were on the shamwow commercials,

[Billy]

like, we need to know that was you.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. All right, so I'll give you an example to kind of agree with your point. Here in Lexington, Andy Barr is running for Senate. So that congressional seat is open, and I'm gonna have to vote in the Democratic primary. And I don't know who's running. And I think I know more than most people. Like, I follow politics. More than what, 98% of the population?

[Billy]

Oh, if you don't know, I'm doomed.

[Matt Jones]

I don't know who's running in this district in Lexington.

[Billy]

So they can have an infomercial up there.

[Matt Jones]

So how in the world is the average person gonna know they held their debate last night during the UK game. I wanted to call the Kentucky Democratic Party and go, what the hell is wrong with you people? You're going to have your congressional bait during the UK game.

[Billy]

Did they wait for the second half?

[Matt Jones]

No, it was the first half. Oh, okay. It was seven o'.

[Billy]

Clock.

[Matt Jones]

Wish I was stuff, but wish I'd

[Billy]

known that was on.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. If the four candidates were able to go guy with glasses McGee, I'd be like, well, I like when people wear glasses. Turtle Johnson.

[Billy]

Or if they just owned a local

[Matt Jones]

business in town, I'd want to know

[Billy]

that that's the guy that owns the whatever shop.

[Matt Jones]

That's exactly right. You could be Bourbon and Toulouse Franklin. Perfect. I'm okay with it. You know, in Kentucky, you used to be able to do. To put your nickname on, and they changed the law. So when I was a kid, the mayor of Middlesboro was named Troy Welch, but he went by Frog.

[Drew Franklin]

Oh, I'd vote for a Frog.

[Matt Jones]

And I don't think anybody knew his name was Troy. So on the ballot, he wrote Troy. Quotation marks, Frog Welch. And now I don't think in Kentucky you're allowed to put nicknames.

[Billy]

I want to add another layer to this. I think you should be able to give your opponent a nickname you can't name yourself, but you each get to give each other one nickname.

[Matt Jones]

Republican would just call the Democrat Abortion Jones.

[Drew Franklin]

The packed ads are already fierce. Right.

[Billy]

Be fun.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that would give them,

[Billy]

like, a certain amount of characters, like a license plate or naming a horse. Like, you can call your opponent this if it's within the rules.

[Matt Jones]

Couple other little things. Just real quick on the election. You know Dan Crenshaw, the guy with the eye patch out, he lost in the primary. He was. He. Remember he was on Saturday Night Live with Pete Davidson. So Pete Davidson made fun of his eye, and then they came on together. He lost.

[Drew Franklin]

Very popular, I think. I mean, people know who he was. I don't know about his positions, but yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And then a guy, I think his name was Tony Gonzalez or Tony something. He had a staffer commit suicide. And it came out that right before she Did. He was sexting with her and asking for nudes and he's married. He ran in the primary and now he's in a runoff. He didn't get. He didn't win but he didn't get the other person. So now they're going to have to have a runoff. I feels like to me that seems a little head and he should just, you know, step aside and get that figured out. Yeah. But he says, he says he didn't do anything wrong.

[Drew Franklin]

Tony Gonzalez, is that right? Texas U.S. representative.

[Matt Jones]

Not the Falcons.

[Billy]

Not the tight end.

[Drew Franklin]

Not the Chiefs hall of Famer.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. So that's your election update. Talarico. Talarico in Shamwow, Crenshaw out.

[Drew Franklin]

And Mark Teixeira and yeah, Mark Teixeira,

[Matt Jones]

we talked about this too on the show. Mark to share. A former Yankee he got. He won the Republican nomination for Congress in his district.

[Billy]

Had no idea Mark to share was going to get into politics.

[Matt Jones]

We were talking about this on the post game show last night. You know they do that congressional baseball game.

[Billy]

Oh yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Should they allow to share to play?

[Billy]

Absolutely.

[Matt Jones]

I've been white. Well, I think now your Republicans are minus 1200.

[Billy]

Maybe there was incentive and get them elected.

[Matt Jones]

But what happens though? What happens if AOC strikes out? Mike? Mark, that's why we need the game.

[Billy]

That's the matchup we all need. When else could we get that? Or you just throw it and if

[Matt Jones]

you lose, that's interesting. You think they go head hunting?

[Drew Franklin]

Well, brush him off the plate first. You got to know that you have command of this.

[Matt Jones]

There's a lot of pressure on Mark to share in the congressional basketball. You better get a home run every time.

[Billy]

I'd almost rather be one of the 90 year olds that's just there to wave. You just blending in. You don't want to be the main character in this. But if you're the Democrats and you lose big, I think you got to recruit. I think you go to the majors.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, Ronald Acuna can he run? I go get a pitcher who's just retired and because like all right, try to hit this. So Clayton Kershaw just out there throwing 95 sliders.

[Billy]

Do they have to be retired though, like Paul Skeens? Have you ever thought about running for office?

[Drew Franklin]

Get very contentious.

[Matt Jones]

But what happens if Skeens were to like bean someone part of the game? What if Skeens just threw the ball right at Jamie Comer?

[Billy]

I'd be more worried about his voting and what he's doing with his position. If we were to elect him in the actual baseball game.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, you're only elected him for the baseball game.

[Billy]

Didn't this game have like something cool happen a few years ago when there

[Matt Jones]

like a highlight, There was a shooting.

[Billy]

No, no, no, no, no. But like, wasn't there a politician who could actually ball? Or am I making that up?

[Matt Jones]

Republicans win every time. When I was thinking about running for Congress, So this was 2016. That was when I went through the boot camp. I don't know, I haven't talked as much about this, but I went through the congressional boot camp and when I get there was a guy named Jefferson, I can't remember his first name from, and he was the captain of the Democrats congressional baseball team. And when I went to sit with it, to sit down with him and talk, he goes, I don't care about your positions. He was like, I don't really. He goes, whatever. He's like, are you good at baseball?

[Billy]

What position do you.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean? He was like, you look like you might be good at baseball. We need help. He's like, our team gets their ass kicked every year. And I go, well, I mean, I could do it. He was like, then you gotta win.

[Billy]

He might be the one I'm thinking of.

[Matt Jones]

He was like, we only have like five or six and he's not in Congress anymore. He went and worked for Biden. So like, he doesn't. He's not in it anymore.

[Billy]

I remember a highlight clip of a guy that looked like a baseball player just picking on politicians, taking it way too seriously. Maybe it was him.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you know, there's people who take it very seriously.

[Billy]

No, this person had like a highlight clip edited and put on Instagram. Like, yeah, this isn't that old. Someone out there was taking it more serious than the rest of them.

[Matt Jones]

That's funny. I'd like to see that. All right, what's next?

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[Matt Jones]

Let's just distance myself.

[Drew Franklin]

But we saw some explosive testimony from Hillary, including her deposition being paused when Republican Representative Lauren Boebert, what a goobert. Sent a photo of the closed door proceedings to a conservative influencer.

[Matt Jones]

There's only one rule in the depositions. The only rule was no publicity. And she and did you see initially it said anonymously sentence and it had her name tag in front of her. The guy Vinnie Johnson goes someone inside anonymously said and it was a person sitting in front of Boebert's name tag

[Drew Franklin]

and her explanation of why she did it.

[Matt Jones]

What was it? I didn't see that.

[Drew Franklin]

Why not?

[Matt Jones]

Cause there was a rule.

[Billy]

There's rules.

[Drew Franklin]

Why not?

[Matt Jones]

She was the woman that gave the handy in the movie theater. So why not? I guess why not Is that when

[Billy]

Hillary threw her hands down and stormed out? Was that the moment I saw that

[Matt Jones]

clip I think that's right. So, first of all, did you like having Bill Clinton back in your life?

[Drew Franklin]

That was fine with it. He didn't seem to remember much. Well, I mean, that's pretty typical.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't understand why they brought Hillary. Like, no one's even ever accused her of anything.

[Billy]

She doesn't really name.

[Matt Jones]

They just brought her to embarrass her. And the problem is she's smarter than they are. That's what you saw. What I saw in it is, you know, what's the line. Come at the king, you best not miss. The Clintons are professional liars. Say no hobby. Like, if there's a hall of fame of line. Bill Clinton is a first ballot inductee, and they're both smart. And you put Lauren Boebert, Jamie Gomer, pile comer. And I liked Jamie, but I'm gonna call him that now. They got no chance.

[Billy]

You know, if I could have done PR for Bill. Though he did seem to really enjoy looking through those photos. Maybe don't smile that much.

[Matt Jones]

They showed him the one where he's in a hot tub.

[Billy]

Even if you're not thinking about it

[Matt Jones]

very much, it looked like he was like, memories.

[Billy]

No. Whatever is in your head, I'm not accusing you. I'll just tell you not to smile like that.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with you. I noticed there were some.

[Billy]

He was like, oh, yeah. That night.

[Matt Jones]

Because I don't think they said the woman in the hot tub was not a minor. But I agree with you. He seemed to show. And then they asked optics.

[Billy]

I'm big optics guy.

[Matt Jones]

They asked her about the picture, and she was like, you'd have to ask Bill. And it gave one of those. Like, he's sleeping on the couch. Yeah.

[Billy]

Like, we saw your husband at a bar last night. Ask him about it. You know, don't come ask me.

[Matt Jones]

Do you think they like each other?

[Drew Franklin]

Some aspects. But like any marriage after that long. I'm sure.

[Matt Jones]

But I mean, they got a lot more going on. Bill did a lot of stuff that embarrassed her.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I'm surprised. I used to like Bill, but Bill's kind of a sleazy character, and he really embarrassed that woman for a long time. So I'm kind of surprised they're still together.

[Billy]

Seems very professional to me, not knowing anything, but everything they've been through, it's hard to imagine them having just, let's sit on the couch.

[Matt Jones]

It didn't feel like he was around a lot.

[Drew Franklin]

No, not at all.

[Matt Jones]

Did it? No.

[Drew Franklin]

It's like house of cards? A little bit, maybe.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you think so? It's like. That's interesting.

[Drew Franklin]

Battling for power.

[Matt Jones]

In the end, she ends up the most powerful. Yeah. Hillary almost got there, but she. She lost, huh? Yeah, I. It's funny, Drew. You and I had the exact same. I was like, phil, just bring it down.

[Billy]

Like, I don't know what you're thinking, but the look on your face is not the one you should be having right now.

[Matt Jones]

It's a bad precedent, though, because in about six months, the Democrats are gonna win the House. And if you don't think they're calling Donald Trump up there and he ain't as good. I mean, he's also a hall of fame liar, but he's not as smart, I don't think.

[Drew Franklin]

Can you plead the fifth in these things?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, yeah, but they didn't do that, really, did they? I didn't hear. Did they plead the fifth at all?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I haven't. Haven't seen anybody doing that.

[Matt Jones]

I also think, you know, they. They, they. The Howard Lutnick guy, now they're gonna do him. It feels like he should be.

[Billy]

A photo popped up that was magically left out before.

[Matt Jones]

He needs to go away. Yeah. You know. Well, now, today they said there's a video of Trump that DOJ didn't release.

[Billy]

Oh,

[Matt Jones]

they couldn't have handled that worse either. This whole thing. Right, right.

[Billy]

And now people are like, well, there was this one on the site. Now this is gone. Where'd that go?

[Matt Jones]

And also, like, Nick Howard Lutnick looks like about the sleaziest guy. You know. He's got, like, six hairs left on his head, and he slicks them back.

[Billy]

Anyone that does the slick back horseshoe, that's someone you got to look out for.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I get it. Like, you want to save the hair, but when you slick it back and

[Billy]

you're bald, like, you slick back the

[Matt Jones]

horseshoe, like, who has slicked back bald hair? He's not the only one, you know who had. It was Steve Carell in the debut of the Office. Go back and watch the pilot of the Office.

[Drew Franklin]

I think you're right.

[Matt Jones]

Got a hair transplant. Between the pilot and when the series

[Billy]

got picked up, Steve was thinning many, many years ago.

[Matt Jones]

But then it came back. He did.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, that's money well spent.

[Billy]

I agree.

[Drew Franklin]

I hear in Turkey, they got it down to a science over there.

[Matt Jones]

Are you. How do you gonna go?

[Drew Franklin]

I'm not gonna go. I've got great hair. But there's a whole thing. There's a whole thing of These men going to Turkey.

[Matt Jones]

And why do they go to Turkey, though?

[Billy]

They hook you up, they pick you up.

[Matt Jones]

Are there not people here that do it?

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I can't imagine the technology's better in Turkey.

[Billy]

I think it's very affordable. And then they throw in all the other stuff that makes it like a vacation.

[Matt Jones]

Well, when Ryan got it, he didn't get as many. He should have gotten more. But it does made a huge difference in his appearance, even what he did, don't you think?

[Drew Franklin]

I do, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I remember him being in pain, though.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, pain is temporary.

[Matt Jones]

We did the show the day after and he was hurt and you can't.

[Billy]

You have to sleep sitting straight up for a few nights, like your head can't touch anything.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah.

[Drew Franklin]

Better than the spray paint that you put on his head that one time.

[Matt Jones]

I like that. I thought that was a good look.

[Billy]

Artist I've ever laughed. I've declared it. I've been on this planet for 40 years and 7 months. I've decided that's the hardest I've ever been.

[Matt Jones]

State college.

[Billy]

Yeah. Because it was three hours later and I was still just giggling at lunch. You could see my shoulders bouncing.

[Matt Jones]

The best part about that was two things. One, he left a stain in my car where he put his head on my seat and it remained. And two was when we got in that elevator and it started leaking and the women in the elevator, we got stuck in it for a minute and they were just seeing it leak down his face and head.

[Billy]

Well, I posted a video. Let's not forget at dinner, which again, dinner. We did this in the morning. Dinner that night. He left it on the wall of the pizza restaurant. He was leaning on the wall when he got up. There was just a big black dot.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, he was. Oh, good times. All right, what's next?

[Billy]

We got to do it again.

[Drew Franklin]

All right, let's switch gears a little bit. A father is being held criminally responsible for the actions of his son, Colin Gray. The father of alleged Georgia school shooter Colt Gray was found guilty Tuesday of 27 charges including second degree murder and cruelty to children. Colt Gray is accused of killing two students and two teachers in a September of 2024 school shooting. Prosecutors accused Colin Gray of ignoring warning signs of his son's potential violence and allowing him to access to his high capacity weapon. Not only that, Matt, he bought him a rifle for a Christmas gift, the same rifle that he used in the school shooting. So the father of the school shooter is going away.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I think that. So I Think the key fact here is the FBI got a tip that this kid might shoot up a school and they came to the house and they interviewed the dad and the kid. The FBI ended up determining that it wasn't an actionable threat, but the parent knew about it and after the FBI came, went and bought his kid an AR15 anyway. So that I think is the key fact. So just theoretically, do you think a parent should be charged for essentially negligent homicide? They're charging him with second degree murder. I think that's gonna be a harder one for them to succeed. But I think the negligent homicide charges will be the real charge. Do you think they should be charged not just because their kids do it, but if they know their kid is potentially a threat and then they buy the weapon that they do it. And apparently he didn't have it locked up, all these, all these other facts?

[Billy]

I think so in this case seems pretty extreme. Saw the mother even testified that like father had no interest in helping. Like it was obvious that there were signs and like the father wanted no part in making any changes or trying to help out.

[Matt Jones]

Is it the act that you think the father did that makes him criminally liable? Is it the buying the gun?

[Billy]

I think buying the gun, but like

[Drew Franklin]

you can't buy a gun for your son anymore.

[Matt Jones]

But. Well, first of all, I would argue 15 year olds don't need guns. I might be in the minority on that, but I'm okay with that position. I mean we don't let 15 year olds buy nudie magazines. Do we need them to buy automatic weapon magazines? I don't think so. But let's just say you believe they should. If they have, if they, if the FBI has investigated them for a threat on a school, you're kind of aware at that point.

[Billy]

And the mother of all people is even saying he was not doing anything to prevent this.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that's the box that checks for me, is that he was a threat. It didn't end up being something. But then he did buy a gun after that. That just seems very cut and dry to me.

[Matt Jones]

So you are fine with him being charged? It's only the second time in America that a parent has been charged for crimes that ultimately were committed by the kid.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes, I am, I'm good with it in this instance.

[Matt Jones]

Drew? Yeah, I think so.

[Billy]

I mean parents have to have some responsibility in their kids upbringing. And at age 14 you are not developed and if there are already signs, my goodness, absolutely don't buy them a gun. So you know, if you do it and this happens. I think you have to face the consequences also.

[Matt Jones]

See, I didn't grow up around guns, so, like, it's hard for me to understand. You know, my grandfather had rifles and he has a rifle. Like, he's got rifles from like World War II. So to the extent that I. I think one day I'll probably end up with those. Don't really know what I'm going to do with them. But it's like more of like a collective. Like, I'm not firing it. But if you are somebody who uses guns, I mean, don't you have to keep your kids from being able to access them?

[Billy]

Oh, I grew up in deer hunting country. Many of my friends were hunting at a young age. And, you know, yes, they had an access to a gun, but it was very, very, very well watched over, put away. Like, it's more of. You're growing up into like a hunting culture.

[Matt Jones]

Well, when I say, not like, here's

[Billy]

your rifle for your 14th birthday. Have at it.

[Matt Jones]

When I say kids don't eat guns, it's. It's not even so much that they can't use them, like, to go hunting. But I don't know that kids need guns that are unsupervised. Right. Or am I? Is that crazy?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I don't think you're crazy. Until they're 18, they should have supervision. Now, there is a huge gun culture. Right. You know that. I mean, those things will hold the value. And so you could sell those guns and probably make a lot of money.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, to the extent that I would want them.

[Drew Franklin]

But, like, there's also my grandfather. There's politicians that have their whole family line up with a rifle in their hand for their Christmas card. Like, it's just that.

[Matt Jones]

That I find bizarre. Like, bizarre.

[Drew Franklin]

You know what I'm talking about though, right?

[Matt Jones]

Yes. And then Tom, I think Thomas Massey did that once, didn't he? I think that's weird for Christmas. Deck the halls with bows of machine guns. I mean, that's. You can say that's weird, isn't it?

[Drew Franklin]

I think so, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

It's pretty weird. I mean, it would be the same for whatever they, you know, like, just

[Billy]

stand by the tree, smile.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, sex toys are legal, but if the whole family just stood there with them in their hand.

[Billy]

Yeah, I don't think that'd be a good Christmas card.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I don't know that this is a good Christmas card either.

[Billy]

You're right. I'm more traditional than good candy cane. Maybe gingerbread house

[Matt Jones]

Garland matching pajamas.

[Billy]

I think Garland Great addition to a Christmas cart.

[Matt Jones]

All right, what's next?

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[Billy]

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[Billy]

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[Matt Jones]

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[Drew Franklin]

off your first purchase. All right. It has been over a month since 84 year old Nancy Guthrie disappeared. And the search for the mother of Today show anchor Savannah Guthrie has been pretty surreal. There are unverified reports of ransom notes. There are chilling doorbell camera footage. And now, after weeks of all hands on deck investigating, the local sheriff office in Arizona announced they will be refocusing resources and scaling back the number of detectives on the case. Savannah is now.

[Matt Jones]

They did say that.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes. Savannah and her family are now offering $1 million on any information leading to the finding of their mom.

[Matt Jones]

Sad. I can't believe they haven't found this guy either. I mean, I don't know that I ever thought they would find her, but I cannot believe they haven't found this guy. That's. I mean, that's wild to me, isn't it? You.

[Billy]

I thought that we were at a place where they'll find just about anyone. Like when I check my email on my phone, I just assume the FBI is looking at me through that camera. I have my own FBI agent right here in my hand. Yeah, and just the cameras where you got all over town, from ring cameras to security cameras to the flock cameras. The way we're traced with these phones, I thought they could find anyone in just a matter of days that they needed to find. So this one's really got me puzzled how in the dark they are.

[Matt Jones]

And he also doesn't seem like a mastermind. It's a dude with a cloth mask on. I just. I can't believe that they haven't found him. And obviously they put a ton of resources in it, too. This is not. I mean, this is a famous person's mother. So I'm shocked that they haven't found him.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, I'm the same way that you just think like a camera could pick up the car that he got away in and just follow it to wherever they went. I mean, it's 2026 and we can't find this guy. It's not Ocean's 11.

[Matt Jones]

I told you about that book I read, that Hell Hound on the trail about the search for James Earl Ray. After and what's amazing to me about the book is when you read it, how close he was to getting away, even though the whole world was looking for him. I mean, Martin Luther King being murdered, like, literally the whole world was. And he almost got away. He was at the airport to fly to a country where he would have gotten away because they didn't have extradition. And he got caught at the airport,

[Drew Franklin]

but he was doing the dumbest stuff and they didn't think he would and

[Matt Jones]

they still didn't catch him. Which makes me wonder, like, I don't know, I guess I would have thought they're going to know who this is. And he'll be. I mean, she might be dead, but he'll be caught within in a month later. Still. No.

[Billy]

I guess the latest is they found a walkie talkie. So they're wondering if there are other people involved. Why would he have had a walkie talkie? Like who?

[Matt Jones]

Like we're a month into it and like the best you have is a walk.

[Billy]

That's what I mean.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, like, I'm, I'm just, I'm really surprised that it's gotten this far. What's next?

[Drew Franklin]

All right, we got to stop a second and talk about Jim Carrey. Matt, did you see Jim Carrey at one of the local award shows this past?

[Matt Jones]

I saw that. So there was bizarro Jim care.

[Drew Franklin]

It looked like it. The 64 year old actor made an appearance at the Caesar Awards last week and online conspiracies emerged about him being cloned or impersonated. He had a new appearance, a calmer demeanor. Adding to this, to the speculation or adding to fuel to the fire is that a makeup artist came out and said that they were replicating Jim Carrey in a. Oh, they were a mask.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, I thought that was true.

[Drew Franklin]

Jim Carrey's people have come out and confirmed that that was him at the award show. There was so much speculation that Jim Carrey's people have had to come out.

[Matt Jones]

I thought the makeup thing was true.

[Drew Franklin]

That was not true. That was a British based makeup artist who claimed that they were in a prosthetic mask acting like Jim Carrey at the award show.

[Matt Jones]

He looked weird, right? He looked kind of fat.

[Billy]

I'll go and tell you in my algorithm. This is the only news in the world. World. This is honestly all I've seen on social media the last three days. To the point. Even my wife is like, why are you just looking at that same photo of Jim Carrey? I can't get away from it my big takeaway though. And I grew up maybe Jim Carrey's biggest fan. I think my man just got some terrible plastic surgery. And sure, there's all these conspiracy theories out there. You got that makeup artist, people thinking he got clones. I think it's pretty simple for me. I think he's just getting old and got a terrible face job.

[Drew Franklin]

It was the cheeks that came out to me. Like he had cheekbones, but it's.

[Matt Jones]

The cheeks were fluffy and he had huge dimples. But I mean, what's it. What's odd to me is that people immediately went to, he's been replaced by a clone. I mean, I'm sitting here looking at it and he doesn't look great. But I would have just said, oh, Jim Carrey doesn't look great.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, he was riding with his left hand. He's normally a right handed person.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, is that. Was that part of the thing?

[Drew Franklin]

There's a little bit of like a calmer side of him that people were seeing. He can act different.

[Matt Jones]

But like I'm sitting here looking, there's like a couple of these pictures. He doesn't look that bad. Is it just because of this picture? Is this what got everybody was this one?

[Billy]

That one's bad. I've seen that one a lot. Yeah, there's, like I said, there's. It's my whole phone.

[Matt Jones]

So you.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

So it's really been all years.

[Billy]

Yeah, I change apps, go to Reddit. Nope, More Jim carrey. Let's try TikTok. Hey, Drew, here's Jim Carrey. I haven't been able to get away from it. I just think he got a horrible, horrible plastic surgery job. And it's so bad that the Internet thinks that there's a new Jim Carrey walking around.

[Matt Jones]

I wonder why I thought he had to get plastic surgery. Men usually, you know, and he was in public. Although maybe men get facelifts and we just don't know.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, he's very. Been very outspoken in the past about taboo things like the Illuminati and Hollywood. So maybe that was part of the jump to people thinking he was.

[Matt Jones]

What do you mean? He's been. He's been about the Illuminati. Is he a crazy guy?

[Drew Franklin]

A little. Some late night shows that he's been done interviews for. He's talked about how, you know, the people that control the world and things like that.

[Billy]

And he disappeared. He's only done Sonic the Hedgehog in like the last 10 years.

[Matt Jones]

Got an interesting career. I mean, comes out talking to his butt cheeks.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

And then he ends up doing, like, some amazing movies. I mean, Truman show is a great movie. Man on the Moon's a great movie.

[Drew Franklin]

Ace Ventura, I will not let you skip over.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's the tucking of the butt cheeks. I mean, that was in Ace Ventura.

[Drew Franklin]

Okay. Glad.

[Matt Jones]

Glad I wasn't just meaning, like in life. He was doing that. I mean, in the movie. Ace Ventura.

[Billy]

The mask.

[Matt Jones]

The Mask, Cable guy. Then he was. What was he? The Joker?

[Billy]

Yep. He's in Batman, Myself and Irene.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Liar, Liar, Bruce Almighty. I mean, Myself and Irene's a good call. Then he was in a couple of movies that were really bad, like the Majestic or something. And I am not part of the Sonic the Hedgehog culture, but I think he just.

[Billy]

It seems he needed some money.

[Matt Jones]

But there's been like three of them haven't.

[Billy]

He's the villain.

[Matt Jones]

And our guy, James Marsden is in there.

[Billy]

Yes. But mid-90s Jim Carrey, that was. That was the best.

[Matt Jones]

And he's just gone. And now he shows up. What, what is the award he got? A Cesar.

[Drew Franklin]

It's like the. The Oscars in France.

[Matt Jones]

Was he big in France, like Jerry Lewis?

[Billy]

I don't.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know. I think it was like, at a lifetime achievement award.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, okay. Well, I will say.

[Billy]

Oh.

[Matt Jones]

Eternal Sunshine.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Truman show, man on the Moon. And Eternal Sunshine is a pretty amazing three movie set. Eternal Sunshine. All three of those movies are probably three of my 50 favorite movies.

[Billy]

I mean, he's the Grinch. Who doesn't watch the Grinch?

[Matt Jones]

I've never seen that.

[Billy]

Well, you should watch it. He's the Grinch.

[Matt Jones]

I know the story of the Grinch, but I've never seen the movie.

[Billy]

He plays the green gal that doesn't like Christmas.

[Matt Jones]

I've heard. Yeah, I've seen the cartoon.

[Billy]

Mr. Popper's penguins.

[Matt Jones]

I missed that one.

[Billy]

That wasn't a good one.

[Drew Franklin]

Do we think there are any clones amongst us?

[Matt Jones]

No, that would be nonsense. Except that sheep.

[Drew Franklin]

The sheep is what I was going to reference.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, there are clone animals, but they're not clone people.

[Drew Franklin]

Not yet.

[Billy]

We'll get there eventually. But no, not yet.

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All right, let's switch to college sports for a second. The University of Louisville's president, AD& trustee chair released a letter this week with the title college athletics is running out of time. They go on to say that the current landscape is unsustainable and the problem is that management, it's structural, the math no longer works and it's treading water is not a long term plan. The letter asked for three solutions. Matt Congressional action to create uniform national nil rules and legal protections. A governing body that can actually govern whether that's a strength in NCAA or something new. And third, a hard and enforceable spending cap modeled after professional spending sports leagues to slow an escalating financial arms race.

[Matt Jones]

By the way, little breaking news. WTVQ here in in Lexington. The ABC affiliate has been sold to WLAX.

[Billy]

There's our 10th topic.

[Matt Jones]

No, no, no, that's. It's got to be random. That's kind of crazy. The ABC station is sold to NBC.

[Drew Franklin]

What does that mean for Jeff Pocoro?

[Matt Jones]

I don't know.

[Billy]

Combined forces.

[Matt Jones]

That means WTV Q&WLX together. Doesn't seem just a guess how much it went for. See, I'll see if you all. How much do you think a local TV station that's third in the market, selling to the station that is second in the market. How much do you think it goes for?

[Drew Franklin]

30 million.

[Matt Jones]

Okay, 1 million. 15 right in the middle.

[Billy]

Yeah, we're just divided up.

[Matt Jones]

Interesting. If I know it's 15 million, we could have, we should have just bought it.

[Billy]

Do what?

[Matt Jones]

Dance. Dance.

[Billy]

An expensive dance.

[Matt Jones]

Instead of the news, just. We just look at you.

[Billy]

Billy could do the weather, I'm the news.

[Matt Jones]

What was the. What were we talking about?

[Drew Franklin]

The University of Louisville's letter.

[Matt Jones]

All right, here's the interesting thing about this. When I first saw the letter, I was going to blast it because my national natural reaction is blast something. U of L because it's fun. And I was literally writing the tweet to blast it. And then I looked that the person who wrote it was Larry Benz who's one of the co owners of ovw.

[Billy]

Swinger guy, very nice guy.

[Matt Jones]

I was like, oh, can't do that. Larry's one of my favorite people. He has an interesting life by the way. He owns. He started court physical therapy, sold it, then started another physical therapy place. Sold it and has started a third physical therapy place. Chances are if you've Got physical therapy in Kentucky. Larry Vins had something to do with it. He owns part of OVW and he owns the Prague Lions, European American Football League team.

[Billy]

So he's got his wrestlers and his football players going to get physical therapy. He's double dipping here.

[Matt Jones]

That's true. I've wanted to get involved in the Prague just to be part of it.

[Billy]

Be cool to have that on the

[Matt Jones]

resume anyway, so when I saw that he wrote it, I was like, great letter.

[Billy]

Outstanding.

[Matt Jones]

You know, at its core, this debate is Louisville. And schools like Louisville want all the college football, college sports teams to share their media rights, sell them collectively because they think it'll get more money. And if you're Louisville, that's probably true. But the SEC and the Big Ten are like, why would we want to do that? So this is the case of. Think about what baseball's like. Back in the day, all the baseball teams were individually owned and they came together and created Major League Baseball. But if the baseball teams were individually owned now, the AFC or the American League east, the TV rights would be worth more than like the National League Central. And so essentially what Larry Benz is saying is the SEC is the AL east, and we are the American League Central, but we need to come together to be the American League. And, you know, the Yankees and the Dodgers, which would be like, the SEC and the Big Ten are like, no, why would we want to do that? And so that's really the debate, save college sports.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, a lot of these universities, I mean, have you seen Penn State and haven't yet.

[Matt Jones]

The thing I didn't like about Louisville's argument was they were like, we made 155 million. We spent 167. We're not going to be able to save college sports. Feels like a counter is just spend 155. No one made you spend the extra $12 million. You chose to do it.

[Billy]

We see how empty your football stadium is every Saturday.

[Matt Jones]

So while I'm not saying it's not that it's ridiculous, you didn't have to spend it. Right.

[Billy]

I agree with their point that the college has a lot of problems, but something about it coming from Louisville, and this isn't me being my typical rival and hating on Louisville, it's coming kind of just seems like a you problem a little bit. Like, yeah, a lot of teams are thriving and moving forward. And sure, you might not like the direction. That just means you're getting left behind.

[Matt Jones]

So now you're going. They're going to go to Congress, and Congress is ultimately going to decide. But what's interesting is, all right, let's say you're a senator from Kentucky. Let's say you're, you know, Rand Paul. Kentucky's over here going, no, Louisville's over here going, yes. Well, what do you do? Let's say you're a senator from Washington. Washington's in the Big ten, but Washington State can't find a conference. So what do you do? I, you know, I don't know the answer for it because for a lot of these states, there are two schools and they're in two dramatically different positions. So I don't really know what's going. And then you have the whole Republican. So one of the things I wrote was when you're thinking about college sports legislation, there's a lot of variables. Republican, Democrat, big school, small school. Right. Athletes that make a lot of money versus Olympic athletes. It's not easy to figure out how you put all those things together. Right.

[Drew Franklin]

I just probably these politicians need to look at the greater good when they're deciding because there are going to be a lot of universities with a lot of non revenues generating revenue is the greater good.

[Matt Jones]

So again, is the greater good that football, basketball players make the money that they're bringing into the university, or is the greater good that these people that make the money share the money with swimmers?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, that's the question.

[Matt Jones]

It all depends on how you define the greater good. I think there are people who would have two completely different answers to that

[Drew Franklin]

a supporter of capitalism would believe. Those guys should get all the money that they should get.

[Matt Jones]

To me is the supporters of capitalism tend to be the biggest people in favor of the socialism in sports. That Texas Tech guy that ran all those commercials, Cody Campbell, is an oil billionaire who donates all of his money to Republican and capitalist causes, and he's running commercials advocating for socialism in college sports.

[Drew Franklin]

It's going to save his university.

[Matt Jones]

But that's interesting though, right?

[Drew Franklin]

It is, yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Whereas a lot of people like me, who tend to be more. Let's think about the greater good in society, because I root for Kentucky, are like, screw them, we're in the sec. We're in the sec. So it's just interesting. Like, it makes for a weird, difficult thing to figure out for me as

[Billy]

we're watching basketball right now. It's a competition and that's just life. And if you're not able to keep up, you know, sports and you're falling behind, if this were a little bit more academic, and I know it impacts that a little Bit maybe I'd make it a little more fair, but I would say do better. I mean, that's where the money is, is you winning.

[Matt Jones]

Win.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

You know. Sorry. What's next?

[Drew Franklin]

All right, Daylight savings time is here. It's the second Sunday in March and that is this Sunday. The clock will jump from 2 to 3am local time, my least favorite day of the year. Meaning we will get more sunlight later in the day, moving forward. But also you will be losing that hour of sleep. Initially, the practice was established in the US as part of an energy conservation effort during World War I. Later in the day that you could turn on lights. That means you're saving, I guess, money. But the Daylight act of 2026 is gaining bipartisan support. Remember a few years ago they tried to push something through that would make daylight savings permanent. That has been held up and is not being voted on. This Daylight act of 2026, unlike the previous versions, proposes a permanent 30 minute time shift to compromise.

[Matt Jones]

30 minutes.

[Billy]

I'll just throw everything off.

[Matt Jones]

I had to screw everything up.

[Billy]

Get that one out of here.

[Matt Jones]

No, 30 minutes.

[Drew Franklin]

People are picking it up.

[Matt Jones]

This has always been an issue for me. Which one is daylight savings time?

[Drew Franklin]

Daylight savings time is what we're about to do. We're gonna lose an hour. So that means we have more.

[Matt Jones]

So spring forward is daylight savings time.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

Once you sprint, when you fall back.

[Drew Franklin]

Correct. You're on regular time standard time.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. I'm good at falling back. It's one of my favorite nights of the year. Really hate usually springing forward is during the SEC tournament and I hate it this year. It's not. I have. This is one thing I. Listeners to the show will know is right. I don't have an opinion. I really don't. I don't care.

[Drew Franklin]

You don't care about it getting dark at 6, 5, 30, 6 o'?

[Billy]

Clock?

[Drew Franklin]

Not really compared to when it could get dark at 9, 8, 30, 9 o'.

[Matt Jones]

Clock. Yeah, but you're. The difference though is like in K, aren't kids going to school in the dark though, otherwise.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes, and that was a big thing. Like when they started this, there was kids that were getting hit at bus stops in the dark.

[Matt Jones]

A lot of kids.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, it was like.

[Billy]

Sounds like a bus driver problem.

[Drew Franklin]

The national thing.

[Matt Jones]

No, but I mean kids going to school, that's serious. When you wake up in the dark, it's depressing.

[Billy]

There's also. If it gets dark earlier, maybe crom starting a little earlier.

[Matt Jones]

See, there are a lot of factors. All right, when it gets when it's light, longer businesses get more business.

[Drew Franklin]

That's another thing.

[Matt Jones]

So that's good. But you're exactly right. When it's light, when you start the dark earlier, kids don't have this. But then you, you might have more crime.

[Billy]

So bad things happen after the sun goes down.

[Matt Jones]

When, if you're in New York City during the fallback time in like December, January, it gets dark at like five

[Drew Franklin]

o' clock and it's depressing. And that's why mental health is a big aspect in this conversation.

[Matt Jones]

But it also gets light at like 5:30 or 6am which allows people to start their work days earlier. So I don't know.

[Billy]

I like where we are. We do both.

[Drew Franklin]

I like playing golf until like 8:30 at night. So I'm definitely.

[Matt Jones]

So you're raising is just golf?

[Drew Franklin]

Selfishly, yes.

[Matt Jones]

Okay.

[Drew Franklin]

The billionaire in the nil.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. What about you?

[Billy]

I like, I like having a little bit of both. Just mix it up.

[Matt Jones]

So you like 30 minutes. 30 minutes.

[Billy]

Oh, crap. No, I don't like that either. Honestly, the only time this has ever impacted me, and this has been years, but at the bar, I'm about to leave and they're like, no, no, we got another hour. It's like, oh, yeah, get to hang out longer tonight. That's the only time it's ever even really crossed.

[Matt Jones]

They close in an hour.

[Billy]

That's what I mean, the being in a bar. Am I leaving or not leaving is the only time this has actually been in my brain.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I don't have an opinion. I'll let them decide.

[Billy]

Wow.

[Matt Jones]

I am officially neutral. I'm Switzerland.

[Drew Franklin]

All the strong opinions and Matt doesn't take a stand.

[Matt Jones]

I'll take an opinion on a lot of things, but on this, I will defer to Donald Trump, to the Sun.

[Billy]

Whatever the sun wants to do.

[Matt Jones]

That's right. What's next?

[Drew Franklin]

This is my final topic before we find some breaking news for our 10th. The 2026 winter word drop is here, boys. Dictionary.com just added over 1500 new words.

[Matt Jones]

That's too many.

[Drew Franklin]

And I'd like to. 1500 over 15.

[Billy]

Let's not do all 50.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, I'm going to tell you some of these and maybe you'll understand why it got to so many. Okay. Swifty was included in the dictionary. It joins Beehive. Janet.

[Matt Jones]

Beehive wasn't in the dictionary. They didn't have. I thought I learned about beehives when I was a kid.

[Billy]

Beyonce.

[Matt Jones]

I know, but yeah, the B existed.

[Billy]

But they put b E Y, H,

[Drew Franklin]

I V, E. Okay, Jane. Jane eye. For fans of Jane Austen.

[Matt Jones]

That shouldn't be in there.

[Drew Franklin]

And Trekkie fans of Star Trek.

[Matt Jones]

Why is Jane eye getting there? First of all, I've never heard that phrase. I've heard the rest of these.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know. I didn't know.

[Matt Jones]

They're just trying to patronize, putting in Trekkie.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, let me tell you some of the other words that have been added. Glamazon. Do you know what a glamazon is, Matt?

[Matt Jones]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

A woman who is beautiful and glamorous as well as being tall, strong, or powerful. Also, some other words being added to the dictionary is hypermobility.

[Matt Jones]

Is that J. Billis? Got that one added.

[Drew Franklin]

Some of these, like, common words are being just now added. Auto generated. Purple squirrel, which is a hypothetical person sought by an employer with the ideal combination of temperament, experience, and education for a particular job. Purple squirrel being added to the dictionary.

[Billy]

Two words.

[Drew Franklin]

I don't know how they do it, Matt. They just do it.

[Matt Jones]

Sometimes you can get two words as a dictionary.

[Drew Franklin]

I think phrases are being termed as, I guess, dictionary.

[Matt Jones]

I. First of all, they don't get to decide. I'm a Webster's guy.

[Billy]

They need to calm down. Really?

[Matt Jones]

What does Webster say? It's like the King James version.

[Drew Franklin]

They don't have a winter word drop right now.

[Matt Jones]

So I'm not sure 1500 is too many. We don't need 1500 new words, especially

[Billy]

the ones you listed. I feel like we're just getting dumber with our words. Anyway. I've seen this, like, what have y' all seen? Looks. Maxing.

[Matt Jones]

It's like, yeah, yeah.

[Billy]

What are we doing?

[Matt Jones]

You asked what's on your page. For whatever reason, that goober face clavicular is on my page all the time.

[Billy]

See the one where they took his hat off and he was bald?

[Drew Franklin]

He's the one that keeps hitting himself.

[Matt Jones]

No, he was the one that, like, he punches himself in the face to make himself the most handsome.

[Billy]

I feel like somebody took his hat off and he had a wig on.

[Matt Jones]

They exposed someone else who's a looks Max or that happened, okay. I don't know. Just one day he was famous, and I'm still not sure what. The New York Times did a profile of him. And I was like, why? And he got frame mogged.

[Billy]

See all this moggin and maxing? It's like blueface.

[Matt Jones]

Am I right?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, it is, but these are, like, slang.

[Matt Jones]

Frame, I think, is like, where you're standing there and I come stand next to you and get in your frame and I'm stronger or better looking than you, so I'm mogging you.

[Billy]

I get it. But I just think it's unnecessary that we're just adding all of these words. I'm sure that the generations before us said the same thing. In fact, I went back and read some old newspapers of UK game recaps.

[Matt Jones]

Hard to read. It's hard to know what they're saying.

[Billy]

But they're you. They're like it's, it's well written. They're using gigantic words that we don't even use anymore and like how they're painting the picture and now we're just frame moggin and Jane Iten and yeah,

[Matt Jones]

if you go read old newspapers it's

[Billy]

almost written like they were at civil war writing their wife back home is how they're writing it. And now it's just all, I don't know. This is my old man. Get off my yard with your moggin and your Maxim.

[Matt Jones]

You know, you can order from this website, the New York Times the day you were born or any day you want.

[Billy]

I have that.

[Matt Jones]

You have yours.

[Billy]

Someone gave it to me as a gift.

[Matt Jones]

That's a cool gift. But what's going to happen when we don't have newspapers anymore? Like does that gift just go away?

[Billy]

Here's Kentuckysportsradio.com print it out from your birthday.

[Matt Jones]

Here is what was frame mogged on your birthday.

[Billy]

I've got a little book. It's got all the stuff that was happening.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, I think that's kind of. I like to see like the story when the Titanic crashed. Like read the New York Times story. What's the last one of those events we had where people might want the front page cover of a newspaper?

[Billy]

I went on a pretty big hunt looking for the Courier Journal when Muhammad Ali died.

[Matt Jones]

Did you find it? That's a great.

[Billy]

I didn't on the hunt but I think I ended up getting one later.

[Matt Jones]

That was a great picture the Courier had of the funeral recession. I remember buying the new the newspaper when Obama was elected. But I've lost it. And at one point and I've lost. I had the 911, the World Trade center with the plane into it. But I've lost both those.

[Drew Franklin]

Your sports team wins and new.

[Matt Jones]

I do have the 96 and 98 Harold Leader front pages.

[Billy]

I have a bunch of those. Yeah, but to your point, that would be od. Just like here's a screenshot of the Instagram post they made after they Won.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. Newspapers are like, you know, here was your Twitter, your memories before you page. Yeah. So, like, if it were today, let's say Drew's gonna have a kid, right?

[Billy]

That's the plan.

[Matt Jones]

Right now. Here's what happened the moment Drew's kid was born. Fightful wrestling said Joe Hendry. Hendry. My first question is about whether I'm a crowd draw. Here you go. Congrats on your new kid.

[Billy]

Dad. What were you doing when I was born? I was.

[Matt Jones]

Here's FanDuel.

[Billy]

Jim Carrey algorithms. I was trying to decide if Jim Carrey was real while you were coming into this world.

[Matt Jones]

All right. Is that it?

[Drew Franklin]

It is. We can find.

[Matt Jones]

Here we go. Whatever's top.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Matt Jones]

Is our 10th news story. Stephen A. Smith criticizes pathetic New Orleans Pelican social media department.

[Billy]

He's picking on some intern.

[Drew Franklin]

Well, they got him good, though. I saw the video. It was.

[Matt Jones]

Oh, you know this.

[Drew Franklin]

I've seen this story.

[Billy]

Were you considering putting this on your list?

[Drew Franklin]

No, I didn't.

[Matt Jones]

So tell me the story, because I don't know this.

[Billy]

I don't know the.

[Drew Franklin]

All I saw was the video the Pelicans posted after Stephen A. Was talking crap about the Pelicans. And it was like the picture of Stephen A. Wilt Chamberlain, but it was photoshopped with Stephen A's face instead of 100. It was like 1.5 because that's what he averaged in college. Oh, there's like.

[Matt Jones]

I like that. That's good.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah, There's a lot of videos of him missing a three pointer or, like, slipping on the basketball court.

[Matt Jones]

Look. Look at that. That's great.

[Billy]

I just saw, too. Yeah.

[Matt Jones]

Okay. This is actually a great story.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. So I thought the Pelicans did really

[Matt Jones]

good fun of Zion for being fat.

[Drew Franklin]

Yes.

[Matt Jones]

And Zion, in her interview, said people making fun of him for being fat hurt him.

[Drew Franklin]

Called him a food addict.

[Matt Jones]

Called him a food addict. And so the Pelicans then put out the thing. And now Stephen A. Smith today goes off about it. First of all, who cares what Stephen. But here's Stephen A. Smith says, you've got people that are alcoholics, you've got people that are drug addicts and stuff like that. What was Zion's problem? Food. Food addict.

[Drew Franklin]

Seems harsh. I mean, you don't have to go

[Matt Jones]

say the worst development of 20, 25, 26. Is Stephen A. Smith thinking people care whether he runs for president? Do you know one person that would be for Stephen A. Smith? No.

[Drew Franklin]

No. But I'd watch the debates.

[Billy]

I wouldn't do that.

[Matt Jones]

Watch it anyway.

[Drew Franklin]

I mean, I might, but I'm talking about, like, me in college watching those Trump debates.

[Matt Jones]

How many people do you think know Stephen A. Smith? I think Stephen A. Smith thinks everyone know who know. My. My mom doesn't know who Stephen A. Smith is. I can guarantee you Larry doesn't know who he is.

[Drew Franklin]

No to that point. Stephen A. Smith said he was more popular than anybody on the Pelicans.

[Matt Jones]

Well, that's.

[Billy]

That's not said a lot.

[Matt Jones]

I bet more people know Zion than him, though.

[Drew Franklin]

That was in his rebuttal, either today or yesterday.

[Matt Jones]

First of all, why do you bring that up? What's that have to do with anything? I'm more popular than anyone on the Pelicans.

[Drew Franklin]

Superiority complex.

[Billy]

I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

Well, I'm more popular than Walker Horn. What does that say?

[Drew Franklin]

Should be getting more minutes, I guess. I don't know.

[Matt Jones]

I mean, I don't. Stephen A.

[Drew Franklin]

You think he runs?

[Matt Jones]

No. None of these guys run. Of course, I'll say this. And I talked about running, so you can put it on me, but they. But I actually took it seriously. Stephen A. Didn't run. Bruce Pearl didn't run. Paul Fine. Bob didn't run. Now, Mark Teixeira.

[Billy]

That's a man who's serious.

[Matt Jones]

Sham. Wow guy.

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah. Who's in office right now in Alabama.

[Matt Jones]

Call me Tuberville.

[Billy]

Isn't there Dooley something somewhere?

[Matt Jones]

Yeah, that's. By the way, Tommy Tuberville was dumb foreign SEC coach. I had a former member of UK Staff tell me this is a true story that they went to SEC meetings when Tuberville was a coach and there were, you know, at the time, I think 14 SEC teams. And he said if you were to line up the 14 SEC coaches from smartest to dumbest, Tuberville would be at best 13th.

[Billy]

But you're gonna say wouldn't be able to get in the line.

[Matt Jones]

And he's about. And he's about to be the governor of Alabama or world. Yeah. What SEC coach do you think would be the best governor?

[Billy]

I'm gonna say Mark.

[Matt Jones]

Yeah. I like Mark Pope.

[Billy]

He could unite the people.

[Matt Jones]

I agree with you. I do think Mark Pope would be the best governor.

[Billy]

He'd do the work, the prep, his research.

[Matt Jones]

Tall like that tall.

[Billy]

I think his weaknesses.

[Matt Jones]

Already speaks like a politician.

[Billy]

I think his weaknesses. You eliminate the. He's not making substitutions in the middle of the state.

[Matt Jones]

You know, Rick Barnes might be a good.

[Billy]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Matt Jones]

Kind of grandfatherly California cow.

[Drew Franklin]

No, no, no, no.

[Matt Jones]

Too Much.

[Billy]

That's why he's be good.

[Matt Jones]

Just too much Bucky.

[Billy]

He's so young.

[Matt Jones]

Dennis Gates dresses like a politician.

[Drew Franklin]

Buckyball. In a political office, though. I think you got something there.

[Matt Jones]

Nate Oates?

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Stephen Pearl? No. Chris Beard? No. Yeah. I'm going. Mark Pope, 1. Rick Barnes, 2. Dennis Gates, 3. And then football. Who even coaches football?

[Drew Franklin]

Lane Kiffin.

[Billy]

Yeah. I mean, I can eliminate a lot of people. Lane Sark.

[Matt Jones]

No and no. The guy. The guy at A and M. He seems smart.

[Billy]

He just got there.

[Matt Jones]

He came from Duke.

[Billy]

No.

[Drew Franklin]

No.

[Matt Jones]

Why don't you like him?

[Drew Franklin]

He could be fine. I don't know him very well.

[Matt Jones]

You don't want your presence to be overweight. Is that your problem?

[Drew Franklin]

Yeah.

[Billy]

You don't like overweight people?

[Drew Franklin]

I didn't. I didn't say that at all.

[Matt Jones]

You can't have Josh Hypo. He wears a garment shirt. I mean, we. We like one of those tarps everywhere.

[Billy]

The current SEC coaches bad list all the way around.

[Drew Franklin]

Drinkowitz.

[Matt Jones]

You couldn't have Drinkowitz. You couldn't have Beamer.

[Billy]

I'm gonna put Brian Kelly on there because he started the year. Get him out.

[Drew Franklin]

John Sumrall, probably your answer.

[Matt Jones]

He'd be a good governor. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, with that, Shane Beamer. Hope you all enjoyed the news, got educated. Now do you feel like you're ready for the world?

[Billy]

I do. I can step back out there and have conversations with people.

[Matt Jones]

Talk about Stephen A. Smith and his fellow.

[Billy]

I've been walking around in the dark lately.

[Matt Jones]

We'll see you later.

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