Transcript
A (0:01)
This is Interrupted by Matt Jones on Newsradio 840 WHAS.
B (0:07)
Now here's Matt Jones.
A (0:11)
Welcome everybody, to episode 37 of Interrupted by Matt Jones, where we love to bring on people to talk about interesting things. And today we have with us, I'm speaking with, from the ringer, Jordan Ritter Kahn. I did an event last night in Louisville with Jordan talking about his book. And then I realized, you know what, Jordan is not only does he have a good book, he is also interesting beyond that. So he's a perfect guest for this podcast he's coming to us live from it looks like a hotel in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Jordan, how are you?
B (0:49)
I'm good, Matt, you know, had to drive through the rain today from Louisville to Chattanooga.
A (0:54)
But did you go over Jellicoe Mountain? Is that right?
B (0:58)
I must have. I went over some sort of mountain. A lot of back roads, a lot of switchbacks, not a lot of highway. It was great.
A (1:06)
Well, we'll talk about. You could have gone through Middlesborough, but you've been there before, so you wouldn't have needed to, you didn't need to experience it. But we're having you on. You wrote it came out a couple weeks ago, American Men. I'm holding it up to the camera here. And for somebody with no knowledge of the book, what's your like 30 second description of what it is?
B (1:29)
Yeah, it, it is a book about four different men, all of whom have some kind of tension in their lives around their relationship to masculinity. And it's these like really intimate, interwoven stories about the kind of stuff that men are often told. Like we won't talk about, you know, these guys kind of let me into their lives and let me kind of chronicle who they are in a way that's, you know, hopefully feels like a page turner and feels like something that kind of lets you into the corners of people's lives that you otherwise wouldn't get to see.
A (1:59)
It's basically four biographies and you sort of interweave their stories. I read a book a few years ago that was about women, which I think your book has been compared to Three women. Is that what it's called? I can't be the first person who's made that comparison. But it was a similar thing with three women stories. Did you, I assume you had seen that before you did this. This, right?
B (2:23)
I did, yeah. I'd read that book and, and thought it was great. I mean, it's, that book is like exclusively focused on women's relationship to like sex and Desire. And this one, I wanted to do something that's similar in structure, like really immersive, but the topic is a bit broader. Yes. You know, it's a bit more like just how we in. Internalize ideas around masculinity from the time we're really, really young kids and what that looks like over the course of our lives, how of shapes us. The lessons we're learning about who a man is supposed to be from when we're 2, 3 years old, all the way up until, you know, middle age and older.
