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Host
If you want to change your life, you must first change your mindset. Garen had nothing left, no money, no.
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Garen Jones
Home at the time. Living in my car for two and a half years and I was a little bit over 200 something thousand dollars in debt. I tried to take my life twice and I was at the rock bottom, rock bottom of my life.
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Host
When you are stripped of everything, you start thinking and listening differently.
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Garen Jones
Had to be stripped away of everything so that I could get a message. And so the homeless guy said, change your mindset, change your life.
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Host
That was the turning point. Because your life doesn't change when you're se circumstances do. It changes when your mindset does.
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Garen Jones
That's why we're sitting here today, because my life is a direct flip from where it was in 2011.
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Host
And if Garon could turn his entire life around, you can too.
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Garen Jones
We gotta give people a little bit more context.
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Host
This is Garen.
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Garen Jones
I didn't know when God gives you something, how you should, how it is very important to appreciate what that, what that is and what, how much it can transform you. So it was that and it was very similar to my book. When I was writing my book, every time I would come up with a chapter, it was almost like I would have to relearn the lesson over again. So I'm coming up with these songs and these songs are completely transforming my life. This album is for me. That's not even for people, it's for me. And then one of the songs is called Stolen Influence and you can just hear the second verse. We were sold a history they tried to erase and then they bottled it up and we drank it away the home of the brave is the throne for the slaves and this is where we live at Time to pull the lid back so let's the honest truth from the souls in the grave and wake all of us up from the roads they have paved the clothes they have made the stones from the caves the songs that were kidnapped Dancing to the rhythm found in you Blinded by the trick em of the hue man I mean, we're trying to be cool, man. We're set up to lose, man Instead of being the glue that's why I'm going back to Africa I'm going back to Africa we need a new God and light Cuz we are all blinded by the stolen influence so that song was what started all of this. Because then it put me in the resonance of everything that has been stolen. And then all of a sudden I'm having dreams, I'm like boom, boom. Then My name is a part of this and all this other stuff. Cuz see, when I was a little kid, I didn't understand what, like, I didn't want. I didn't understand what slavery was. You know, they. They teach a false version of history. It was like, one black person does one good thing. I was like, mom, I wish I were white. I used to say that when I was a kid. When I was five, she was like, why? She was like, because they do all the good things. And so when you are brainwashed in the Western culture, you. You'll turn on yourself. But. But it wasn't. I hope you're recording.
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Host
But if not, it records from the second you get in, because that's like the most raw, honest.
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Garen Jones
And I'll tell you it. When I was little, before I knew what any of this was, I remember this white boy, he got really mad at me. He said, why don't you go back to Africa? I'm like, I'm not from Africa. But something inside of me, it, like, erupted. And I was like, what was that? But I'm not from Africa. So writing a song where the chorus is, I'm going back to Africa because everything derives from there. All music, dance, fashion, like, all of it. Like, that source of expression derives from that part of the world. And it has been, like, stolen and stolen. Yeah, I came up with this. Even the origin of rock and roll is stolen soul. All these black artists were doing the Little Richard and all of them. But then it was like, but that was the racial divide. And so this song is a healthy way to remember. And from that, God has just been pointing me in the direction of vibrational truth beyond the hypnotism of Western culture to shape a narrative. And it's just like, I'm losing friends, I'm gaining new ones, and I am perfectly fine because now I know I'm walking in the actual light and not like a colonialized one.
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Host
And when you think you lose a friend when you go on this journey, were they truly a friend?
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Garen Jones
This is what I'm saying. They were a friend of who I thought I was. So it wasn't even the real me. It was somebody that was hypnotized. Not even realizing this is what happens. You just come up and you just, like, you go to history school, you go to all these different things. And they was like, this is that they paint Jesus blonde hair and blue eyes. But in the Bible, it says hair like lamb's wool. You know what lamb's wool is? My hair, bronze skin. So when you go up and you see all these mix things, you're just like, oh my God. So me, I'm just at a place where if it's not in resonance of truth, not verbal truth, the resonance that holy trinity that's inside of you and I and you can always feel when something is right and it's wrong. If it's not that, I don't want it. Yeah, People, products, things that, that are in my business. Like, if it's not that, I don't want it and I'm okay with that.
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Host
Have the kids helped you work through this at all? Like just seeing how free they live?
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Garen Jones
Yeah, because they're, they're multidimensional beings. Us as adults have no clue who kids are because if we would, we wouldn't even call them kids. Because the, just even the language of the English language was. It was created for weaponization. Noah Webster, Webster's Dictionary, he's a freaking war mongrel. And he wanted to shape the way America thinks. So what you think is trauma is actually a bomb detonating. And that weapon, like, good morning. Morning. Death. It's not about the spelling, is the phonetics of the sound. And you share the duel of it. So you're slowly casting a death. So that language even saying, oh, the kid kidding. Kid stands for goat. So you don't take that serious. But meanwhile, kid is the closest thing to source. So I call my kids. I was like, you're baby gods. You're like little elders. So every time something happens and soul wakes up at a specific time where I'm thinking of a thought, I'm like, oh, that's the multi dimensional being that's just working and working. So they are, Chief coming through. Soul coming through. They are my shamans 100%. And I, I don't study them as their father. I'm like, why did you call me at that exact time when I got off of work? Why did this happen at that time? Chief, why do you keep going over to the guitar? And how did you learn how to curl your hands like that by the age of 4 months? It took me a year to do that. I know you want me to learn the guitar because I know that's your craft. So it's shaping me in a very multi dimensional way.
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Host
And it's causing you to let go of things that you thought would be labeled as success. Cars, houses.
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Garen Jones
So many things. Like, I have, I had this. It's like $175,000. I think I paid for it. It was a G Wagon Twin Turbo. And think about it. It looked great. And I had a great story. The story was, my G Wagon's name is Smitty, and it reminded me of my turtle from when I was a little kid. And that story was true. But there's also another story to that that I've never told. And I was dating this girl named Renee when I was 18 in New York, 19 in New York, holding my hands. First girl I really liked. We walk out of this crustaceans diner or something like that, and then all of a sudden, this G Wagon pulls up. And it's like this little dude, like, he would never get no girls if it wasn't for his money. And he was a music mogul. He waited for her to come. She didn't know him. And she looks at me, I'm like, I know you're not about to get in that car. She looks at me, and she lets go of my hand and goes in the car and drives off. And it broke me. That was my first heartbreak. And in that moment, the G Wagon was the. That's the one that gets all the girls. So nobody knew that story. So in cleansing my life and being in the resonance of truth, I realized I could not. I could keep everywhere in my life clean, tidy, but I could not keep my. Some stuff kept happening to my car. Then all of a sudden, something woke me up from my dream. They said, garen, anywhere in your life that resembles trash is where you store your emotional garbage. And I was like, well, where do I. My car. Wait, wait. What emotions do I have there? And all of a sudden, it flashes me back to that moment. And so I had a lie attached to a truth. And it was creating a dissonance in the field. And that's where all the clutter and the junk and the dings and the nick kept happening only to my car. And I just. I sold my car. And I was just like, like, what are you gonna get now? I was like, I don't even see a car. Like, I'm Ubering. I was like, I feel so free.
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Host
And now you're gonna sell the house?
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Garen Jones
Well, we're in the process, because I. There's a voice that woke me up. We bought the house for 3.4. 3.3.45. And I had a. And we planned on staying there for another five years. All of a sudden, I heard this voice that was. Sounded just like me and you talking, and it was just in my ear, and it goes, sell your home. And I wake up, close my eyes, I Don't even go back to sleep. I barely close my eyes said, sell your home, sell your car. The energy wasn't clean. Sell your home, sell your car, sell your home. For 7.5 to 9 mil. And I was like, in this market right now. All right, so tell my wife. I was like. A voice spoke to me last night, 7.5. And all of a sudden, we met the right person. All of a sudden, people are coming in and people are like, trying to bid on it right now. But it happened just like that. And I was just like, I'll take those extra million. And there's something cosmically happening right now. There's like a arranging. And I know God is just saying, trust me. So I don't know where we're going to move. We may not move, but something is having us arrange a lot of things, rearrange a lot of things.
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Host
How do you bring your wife along on that journey? Like, I know you guys are incredibly aligned, but you have two young kids. You wake up, you look at your wife like, hey, I heard a voice for selling the house.
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Garen Jones
She been wanting to move for four years.
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Host
So the voices are like. The voices are.
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Garen Jones
Wait, what? Wait, what? I was prepared to stay here. I was like, I trust what this is. She was prepared to stay here, but she been wanting to move. She'd been wanting to leave. She was like 9,200 square feet. It's like, there's no intimacy. There was no spaces for intimacy. And they were just like, yeah. I mean, it's a nice house on paper, but the. It just where I'm at in my life, I want more time with my kids because. Especially now, because this is the most impressionable moments. You're like, oh, take him to a school. Yeah. With a bunch of other. There might be unconscious parents. And you just. It's just you can't really control that unless you, like, really vet the school. And, you know, my daughter's three, but, man, she's picking up some things. I was like, where the fuck did you get that from? I can do whatever I want. I'm like, ain't nobody talk like that in this house. So there's certain things that she's starting to be impressioned on that's like changing the order of the house. And so we've just got to be really cautious of creating a space where she has sovereignty. And she's also coming into a way of being inside of the. Inside of the Ashe house.
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Host
So how do you harness that? Because, like, my daughter's the same now. She's six. It's like, I do whatever I want. There's a part of me that's like, I don't want to kill that. Because you. You're right. You can do whatever you want at some point in time when you earn the opportunity.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
So I don't want to say, no, you can't. Right. And that starts the programming. Brainwashing. How do you harness that so that she does know she can do whatever she wants in life, but not in the house with you?
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Garen Jones
Okay. It's all. It's just like you said, it's all about the timing. It's. It's the timing. I said, okay, you can do whatever you want. Let me ask you this. What else do you want to do? And I'm just going to ask everything you want to do. And all I'm doing is getting all the backlog of everything. What else do you want to do? What else? What else do you want to do? You want to do everything you want to do? What else? What else? What else? She's like, I want to go here. I want to. How are you going to get there? So now if it. If it then comes to where she's needing my help now, we can negotiate. But I won't go in there. I'll just be able. Then how are you gonna buy that?
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Host
So you're almost helping her like self actualize herself 100.
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Garen Jones
Yep.
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Host
And like giving her more tools to calculate in her brain. How am I going to make these choices? How am I going to negotiate what I want?
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
And eventually you're going to create like an incredible negotiator because she's gonna do.
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Garen Jones
It's already happening. And people, people say, karen, relax. She's just a kid. And I said, and this is the place where most of the trauma gets embedded adults or deteriorated children. I will not. If a child. My daughter knows three languages and she's still three. She goes to Spanish and French. Only school. They only speak Spanish and French. She knows three languages. If a child can learn three different languages, do not chalk it up to just being a kid. And they can. They can have all this cupcake and ice cream and all of a sudden it scrambles their brains and they're acting crazy because they had one cupcake. Because that. What sugar is, is like freaking. It's. It's like a subtle cocaine for a child. And so knowing that it. For me, it's. Let's change the environment. I was like, so maybe the environment is causing that. Maybe she hasn't had Enough sun. Maybe Chief hasn't had enough. But Chief is one. He will. He will go like this. All right? Chief wants to go outside, or he'll go by the stereo, and he'll just go like this. That means I want to listen to music. So he is very clear on what he wants. Sol has always been like that. But he. He can. He can use his body in such a way to communicate what he wants. And because we keep catching it, he keeps doing other things based off of what he wants. And so, you know, my job is to notice the nuances of the different kind of cries and. But also be an example. Like, I'm always playing music and everything, and I bring them in there into the music to see what they naturally do, teaching them how to share. I was like, don't just take something from your brother. And if so, take something. And I say, boom. She's like, why'd you do that? I say, you don't like that, do you? That's what you did to Chief. She was like, so if you want me to keep taking from you like that, just yanking something out of your hand, you probably should stop doing that to Chief. I said, do you want me to show you how mommy and daddy share? Yeah, dad. And then I share. And literally, there was a sound bowl, and there was, like, a little gong, and they were fighting over it. So I said, I want you to put your hand out, and if Chief does not move, do not take. Do not take it. You can put your hand. Now I want you to put something out. If he lets go and takes that, then there's an energetic exchange. Okay, now try. No, don't pull it. Do not pull it. If you feel him resisting, don't. That means he does not want to let it go. So we'll work at that 45 minutes, and then all of a sudden, the next day, it typically takes, like, two to three days to install. Boom. Boom. Now they know how to share. But that. It's. That's why I'm so grateful to be an entrepreneur, and I can work from home and anywhere because, like, I. I don't have to miss these moments.
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Host
Right? And you'll cancel a call. Like, if you're in. In the moment of teaching, I'm sure you'll cancel whatever's coming up to make sure that you have that moment with your kids. You're not afraid?
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Garen Jones
No, no. Or the soul will come in in the middle of a mastermind call that I'm, like, leading. And people Pay, like, freaking $15,000 to be on and off. She's like, daddy, Daddy, the nanny won't give me that. She's like I said, soul. You just walked into my room. Is that the proper way to walk into my room? It's like, no. What is it? What did daddy ask you to do in order for you to come into my office? If the door is closed, knock on the door, go out of the door, knock. If I do not say, come in, please do not come in. And if I do, then you come in. She's not, who is it? And people are watching the call. It's me. What do you need, baby? Can I give you a goodnight kiss? Absolutely. She comes in, gives me a kiss and she starts fondling things. I said, so what was the agreement? Good night kiss, Good night kiss, I'll come and I promise I'll see you soon as the call is done. And the craziest thing is people that are watching that exchange are learning how to make it all work. And then the women that are watching it are like healing in real time because they never had, a lot of them never had a dad like that. So they're imagining me be their dad and them be my daughter. So there's lots of things happen when you just make it all work. Yeah.
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Host
And what's cool is they're paying all this money to come get coaching or business masterminding or advice. The most valuable lesson is watching you practice it. Do it in real time.
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Garen Jones
Yes.
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Host
Because most people, I feel, show up on a camera for the way that they think others want them to show up. And what you're saying is you show up on camera just as who you are and whatever's going on in your.
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Garen Jones
Life is whatever's going on. So like, ah, she's screaming. I was like, the sounds of the night.
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Host
Just enjoy it. So take me back. You're at a gas station, I believe. A stranger comes up to you, says, Change 2011. Change your mindset, change your life.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
Why did those words hit you differently that day?
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Garen Jones
We got to give people a little bit more context. I was at the time living in my car for two and a half years and I was a little bit over 200 something thousand dollars in debt. I had tried to take my life twice and I was, I was at the rock bottom, rock bottom of my life. And it felt like everything was being stripped away from my life. Well, when things start, when you think you are somebody, you think you are the man or you think you are the woman, you think that, oh, I've accomplished this, whatever, and you start having a big head, ego, and you don't know what that can do to your life or the future is like throwing pesticides on your future. I was that when I had no money, I had no money and I had a big head. And I thought I was all that because I was like trying to pattern my life after, like Kanye West. I was like, yeah, he did that, that, that. I'm like, but he's mega millionaire. I'm like, broke is a joke. And so when things started getting stripped out of my life and I think that that's how God works, it was like, oh, this is how you're gonna be. Oh, I didn't design you to be like this. So let me take away everything that I allowed you to have. And so things just started getting my home, my jobs, my this, my opportunities, my daughter almost dying in the hospital. So all these things were happening at the same time. Plus I was living in my car, sleeping in abandoned building, and it was just like I had nothing left to the point where I would actually even listen to a homeless guy. Like, I had to be stripped because I was hard headed. Had to be stripped away of everything so that I could get a message through someone. Be like, oh, no, I don't have no money. No. It was like, you, you have more money than me. And so the homeless guy said, change your mindset, change your life. It hit me because I was in the frequency of humility that I could actually. If you truly know how God works, a message can come from anywhere. And at the time, I didn't know what that was. So this is connecting the dots, looking backwards. It hit me because I felt like I had nothing left. And that was like, it was just something. But the resonance of it. I knew it was something because the way it woke me up. To change your mindset changes is my life the way that it is because of how I've been thinking. So if I do different with the same circumstance, my life will change. So I just started doing the opposite of everything that I wouldn't normally do in areas of my life where I wasn't happy. That's why we're sitting here today, because my life is a direct flip from where it was in 2011.
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Host
So if you could go back to that gas station, find that man, what would you say to him today?
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Garen Jones
Thank you for being my angel.
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Host
Yeah, it's powerful. And you're broke, living out of your car, tried to take your life twice. You said, what kept you going in that moment, was it ego or was it that you knew that there was more out there for you.
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Garen Jones
There were these things that just. There's two things I had. There was, like, a little voice inside of me, and I didn't know what that voice was at that time. And it would say, do this, do this. Create a workout group. Go. Go hike with people on a mountain. All right, call it gumbo, get up and move your butt operation. And every time I would go take these people hiking and motivate them up a mountain, nobody knew I was living in my car. Seeing other people happy from something that already brings me joy, that it didn't matter if nobody showed up. I just love hiking. But seeing other people happy from something that already brings me happiness was like a guiding light for me. I was like. It was something about seeing other people happy from something that brought me joy. And that was the thing that kept me going. That was number one and then number two. Ever so often, there'd be, like, these random checks that just come out of nowhere. But the one that really hit me was I was on my way to pay my. I had, like, 14 traffic tickets, and I was just like, man. Well, I wasn't on my way yet, But I had 14 traffic tickets, and life was just, like, difficult. I was just like, how am I going to get out of this? How are these people doing? Way better than me. I'm, like, way more talented than them, but it doesn't make sense how they're doing this. And I just received this random PayPal that was anonymous, that was for, like, $1,400, and it said, I believe in you. Keep going. To this day, don't know who it is. I mean, I know who it is, but, like, so things like that kept happening in my lowest point, where I was like, why does it something like this keep happening? And then the idea for the gumbo happened, and I'm working people out for free, and they're asking me about nutrition. I don't really know anything about nutrition, but I know a little bit more than them. And so I was helping people out with nutrition. I was just doing what I would do for free. But one of my cries when I was in the car, I was like, okay, I'm tired of fighting. I don't want to fight anymore. I want to be healthy. I want to be happy. I want to be surrounded by nothing but positive people. I just want to inspire people, and I want to make a bunch of money, but I want the money to represent something that I passionately believe in, that I would do for Free. Just show me a sign. A week later was when I met the homeless guy at the homeless guy at the gas station. And so that was a part of that whole thing. And something was like, just keep going, get back up. Keep moving forward. Your time is right around the corner. And I would tell my mom, she's like, baby, your time is coming. She would just always say it. And people like, why didn't you just go back home to Houston? I'm like, bro, are you kidding me? I left and I said, if I ever go back to my hometown, you will know that I have absolutely failed. And I didn't give it my absolute all. And so I just kept going and kept going, kept going, kept going. And then finally the very next opportunity that I got was inside of a health and wellness. It was a direct sales health and wellness company doing the exact same thing that I was doing for free. Teaching people about nutrition, working people out for free, and then working on personal development. That's where, that's where I earned my first million within three years. And then all of a sudden, I learned about product, I learned about sales, I learned about, about leadership. And the reason why I'm as pristine as I am right now, it's because I've had way more access than some of the greatest people right now in the public. I've had more access, hands on than most people in the world. Because most people in the world don't know the power of like direct sales and managing an entire organization for a whole decade of 75,000 people. And keeping them together, you don't have. You just got to figure it out and you learn. But like, I already had my 150,000 hours before I even came public. And I didn't. So I'd already had this whole mechanism before I came out. And I was on impact theory. I was on edmilet. They were like, how are you this good and you just starting your business? I was like, but I started in direct sales. So I had way more people reps than anybody till this day, way more than damn near anybody. And so I tried and test and tried and tested and tried and tested. So by the time I got out, I couldn't understand why so many people that were $25 million businesses wanted me to have shares in their company. And they were like, because when we ask you things about a wide range of things, you're just kind of sharp. But I was also on strategy and planning with an $8 billion company for a decade. So I knew everything about what, what happens when it comes. What happens when someone gets sued? What happens when all this other stuff. Because I sat on the board, so now I just sit on boards and people pay me shares because I could see things that most people don't see because I've had that kind of access. So all of this happened because I know I followed the pathway of do what you would do for free, and you will be paid immeasurably once you get past what you think patience is.
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Host
Most people quit before. Before they actually receive that opportunity. And a lot of people will look at your story or my story, anybody's story, they'll say, like, man, he got lucky. He just got right place, right time. He got lucky. Right? Like, that's famous line ever.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
And I love saying that to people. When they ask me, like, hey, how did you do it? I just say, I got lucky. Because they won't really understand what I went through, what I did.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
The amount of energy, the amount of times I wanted to quit but didn't quit. For you, though, it sounds like it's all about alignment.
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Garen Jones
Like, when you were in alignment, it's alignment. And what I understood, there was a lot of people around me that didn't understand that, like, why you keep doing things for free? Why do you keep doing things for free? Why don't you just do that? Why didn't you just charge them? Why didn't you? And in the beginning, I was like, I just want more reps than anyone. I just. I would. I would hear things like Bruce Lee, they say, fear not the man that practices 10,000 kicks. Fear the man that practices one kick 10,000 times. And something about that just, like, really landed for me. So I was just like, yo, let me know if you need any support. Let me know if you need any support. And I'd just be helping people out. And I was always people's first podcast and whatever, and like, hey, can you come speak to my children? They're like, what are your rates? I was like, I got. You know, this was like 15 years ago. I'm like, no, I'll just come and do it. I'll just come and do it. I'll just come and do it. I'll just come and do it. Now. People like, hold on, wait a second. You don't have management? You don't have representation as far as, like, getting you out there? Have you been in Forbes four times? How'd you be on E. News three times? How did you. How did you do this thing? And how'd you do that? There's no way. And how did you get this done? And how'd you do that? And I said, how are you getting $50,000 at all these corporations to come and speak for an hour? Well, here's what happened. Everybody starts somewhere. You know, all those first that I said yes to, even when I had a little bit of, like, recognition to my name, people never forget they first. You know what happens when people keep going? They keep getting better. Those people became CEOs. You know who they'll never forget? Their first person that said yes. Hey, Garen, thank you so much for being my first. Yes. And we got these funds and everything. What are your rates? 50,000. Okay, boom. We'll get that wired over to you now. So when that just continues to happen, you start understanding the laws of how nature actually works. And I know my value. I know what happens when. When I step into a room in front of anyone, and what happens when I devote my whole entire life force. And so that's why my rates keep going up, because I was like, the payback of what happens, especially in the business field, is that's chump change. And so over time, I just understood how to surf, how to give, how to. And overflow the capacity to the point where now it just starts coming in like this. How did you do that? And how did. Oh, no. I planted those seeds a long time ago, and I planted a whole field of seeds all over the world. And now when you say, like, damn, wow, that's like a really good dude. He wasn't, like, trying to. Trying to shake me up when I was, like, trying to get this thing off the ground. And people never forget that. You never forget that.
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Host
So as a giver, like, I hear in. In your soul, in your being, you love to give.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
You love to help.
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Garen Jones
They know the power of it. Yeah.
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Host
How do you balance that, though, with now knowing your true value or receiving your true value, Having a family, having a wife, having your own projects. How do you balance that inner desire to give and to serve, but also knowing when to say no or how to say no.
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Garen Jones
It's all in resonance. So think about this. Those who control the music control the people. The reason why people can get controlled by the music, because the vibration that comes through music bypasses the brain. That's why you can listen to a song instantly. You get teleported back to second grade, and you start thinking about things you haven't thought about. So that's why, like, resonance literally makes people go. Go crazy. And so the reason why I'm bringing this up because all I've ever done is studied resonance, frequency and vibration. Because that's, you know, I'll speak a little bit later about how I got out of prison. I mean, and in many different ways, and how resonance is used. You can have the right frequency and crack a glass. So what that lets me know is if you get the right tonalities, if you feel into the right tonalities, you can feel into the truth of things. And a friend of mine that's like a very powerful investor, he goes, karen, I know you're just getting started in investments. I have never met a more lucky investor than you. How do you do? Like, I'm really good, but I had a lot of failure. How do you do good almost every single time? And everything that you. I said, because I don't invest in people or products. I said, but I know the resonance of truth. The resonance of truth. You gotta understand, we're spiritual beings. If you're functioning from linear thinking, what I can do for me, like we're trained in the Western culture to think from here. But that ain't true intelligence. That's just somebody with a great memory. True intelligence is when you're. My wife had a baby and somebody says, hey, push. And they don't have to because something else is pushing. That's real intelligence. And so the resonant field is connected to the intelligent field. It's not bound by time, it's not bound by space, it's not bound by past, present or future. So it knows things long before you do. And so I know the resonance of truth and I know the resonance of bullshit. Because I've been both and I've ignored both. And every time, that's when it's like, oh, man, something told me I should have. Yeah, no, that's called resonance. That's your cosmic self. And humans are cosmically blind because you're so. You're so like what you see. But meanwhile, Stevie Wonder can write songs about a world that he's never seen before. And it's beautiful. More beautiful than the world that we see. There must be a different way to see. And so for me, I practice non sightseeing. So it allows me to connect deeper with the non physical world. And in the non physical world, that's where most of the control happens because you can't see it. So the powers that be, all they have to do is control what's in the field. Through media, through food, through lighting, through whatever. All they have to do. And then the world's greatest amplifier will amplify what what's ever in the field. You know what that is? The moon. It's directly connected to all the waters, all the women's bodies. And we're 75 water. So all they have to do is control what's in the field. However, if you understand how to control your own resonant field, you don't have to be a part of that. So therefore, when something comes up, you are so grounded in what that is, there is nothing to sway it. Not the mind, anything. Because you're focusing from resonance.
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Host
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Garen Jones
Right?
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Host
Their own created jail. Their own created limits. You've been in jail?
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
Was the experience of jail what taught you this residence? Or did you have that experience awareness prior to going well, all of us.
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Garen Jones
As little kids, we'd be like, oh, you say whatever happened to Frank? And all of a sudden Frank calls you. You'd be like oh, what a coincidence. Ain't no such thing as a coincidence. You just haven't developed that version of yourself. And I want you to imagine what developed. How we think as beings in the western culture is public education. So Rockefeller wanted to get like little workers and so they created the ding, the bells, the food, the lighting, the same pledge of allegiance, that whole thing. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Program, program, program, program, program. So that right there is all hypnotizing you to stay in your linear thinking. In the Western culture, everything is based off of linear thinking. And this is why most people don't have a strong connection to the real, uncolonialized, actual God. It's because they read that Bible in the way that they were taught, linearly. Meanwhile, that book wasn't written in any part of the world that had to do with linear thinking. Everything is based off of symbolism. Even Yeshua, Jesus spoke in parables. That's all multi dimensional, based off of who can understand what. So. So for me, when I was in prison, this is what sent me to study this particular. I was serving a 12 year prison sentence for smuggling 6.2 kilos of heroin. I didn't know what the drugs were, but I knew I was driving a car that I shouldn't been driving. Then when I got busted in France, at the pinnacle of my modeling and acting career, while my daughter was my first daughter, she's 23, was just born, I was like, my life is over, my life is over, my life is over. Two years into my prison sentence, I was watching, we were allowed to watch movies once a month. And Shawshank Redemption came on. And Tim Robbins, the lead actor, he said, they can take anything they want away from me, but they can't take away my mind. And it was something about what he said. And I was like, I know why I'm in prison. Because before I came in every day I used to say, I feel like I'm so far away from where I'm supposed to be. Like, I'm in prison inside of my own body. And I look up and I'm in France, far away from where I'm supposed to be. And I was like, wait a second. So did I put myself here because of how I was thinking, well, in that case, I'm a free man? And I just kept saying it, I'm a free man, I'm a free man. They had already tested the drugs three times. 6.2 kilos of heroin every time. I'm a free man. I'm a free man. What would a free man do? And then all of a sudden, a voice goes, everything you used to love to do as a child, that brought you the most happy joy. And I'm like thinking, oh, I used to love to run. I used to love to paint and draw. I used to Love to sing. I used to love to like motivate. Even when I was five, I would like say, speak from the heat in my body. I would say these things and good things would happen every time. So it's not a, it's not a surprise that I'll be on stage and there's 75,000 people and the whole room moves because it's what happened when I was five that was just the ABC version of that. And so I'm in prison, finding a level of freedom, thinking that I'm in a free country and wondering why I feel, feel more free than when I was in a free country. Is there a different kind of freedom? Because I feel, I don't. Whatever this is, all of a sudden I'm running and singing and all of a sudden people less fights, less drug deals, less people stabbing each other, more people doing art and everything. I'm running and Nobody is running. 30 days, 60 something inmates running with me. All of a sudden they call me into the office. Jones, we retested the drugs. They had no reason to do that, but I felt free. Jones. We retested the drugs. 90% was fake. And for the amount that was real, you've already done the time, you're free to go home. And I got out, I was like, wait, wait, what was that powerful that it could override anything that a human. There was like, there was a hierarchy of something spiritual hierarchy, I couldn't find. So that's what sent me traveling all over the world. See, I'm not just, I'm not a book person or the guy. I read a book, I go travel to places that are in the book. Same thing with the Bible. I read that, I'm like, let me go learn from the elders from the land because they will teach you truth that can't be found in any book. And so I'm a hundred country world traveler. I didn't go to vacate or vacation. I went to learn and study, sit in forest for two weeks, sit in darkness and all this. And I. And what I kept coming back with was energy, frequency and vibration. And I was like, oh, Nicola Tesla said, if you want to know the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. Wait a second. Music has energy, frequency and vibration. Wait a second, I got energy, frequency and vibration. I'm the secret to the you. And the moment I got that, I knew that I was God. Because if we are created in his image, I cannot, I don't care if you say that's blasphemous. That's the devil. If we're created in God's image, and I look in the mirror and I see anything other than God through my eyes, that's the fall of human right there. So I had to go to prison to find actual freedom. And that's what I know. That's when I know fake freedom. Because I was in prison and I found actual liberated. The frequency of freedom, not the weaponized word.
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Host
Well, and freedom is something you found, but it's also something you're still finding. Yeah, because before we started, you talked about changing your last name, and that could be perceived as a form of freedom that you've just recently discovered.
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Garen Jones
Absolutely.
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Host
Take me through what that means to you.
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Garen Jones
So there are things that, like, when you know actual history, there's like, the history that you're told. Especially you grow up in a world, the Western culture. You go in there and take history. And I was wondering why I always made bad grades in history. But you take history and then you. They'll show you history. And then all of a sudden, you got black kids in the. In the class, but you got, like, two people in a whole history book of people that invented things. You got two people. And I'm, like, asking my mom, I was like, mom, did black people invent or create anything? And she didn't really have an answer because she studied the same history books. And I always knew something was off with that. I was like, there's something. Even when I would read the Bible, it's like Jesus hair like lamb's wool, bronze skin. But then I see Jesus in the church was, like, painted blonde hair, blue eyes. I was like, that's not what's in the Bible. It didn't make sense, but you kind of just go with it. And so when you hear things like your name, like, your last name, most people don't even know where their last name comes from. Oh, I come from a long line of scholars. Even white people don't even know that their names were colonialized, most of them by the Roman Empire. The first last names wasn't just. You don't just arrive with a last name. It was the work, trade that somebody was doing. Like my friend Chris Bickerstaff, like, so long, long time ago, probably his ancestors. The trade was like a bickerstaff, and that's how you got a name. And then it. So when you. There's like fake history, and then there's. When you travel, and then there's where you learn from the land, and there's. When you Learn from the elders. And there's. When you learn from people that have stories that they will not let out, and they keep it in their family so that it won't be twisted. And so I've learned those stories. I've sat with the families, I've sat with the elders to hear the truth that you won't find in a book. And for me, when I was in this journey and on this journey, I was just. I just want to be my life to be aligned with the truth of who I was. I'm creating my. I have an album coming out called Songs in the Key of Truth. And if you gonna call something Songs in the Key of Truth, you best believe everything should be coming from the vibrational truth and no false tale, fictitiousian thing about it. And something about this album is transforming my life radically. It ain't even for other people. There's something happening in me, on me, through me, around me. And I working on this song called Stolen Influence. And when I was a little kid, there was a little white boy. He just goes, why don't you go back to Africa? And I was like, I'm not from Africa. But something in my body erupted. I didn't know what that was. And I just was like, what was that feeling? It was like, go back to Africa. I was like, why do people keep telling me that? That was like a thing. That was a thing. All throughout elementary and this song. As I started to study the root of a lot of music, dance, fashion, so many things all derive from that part of the world. Africa. When we were little kids, they showed us skinny little black kids, Africans with flies in their eyes. It was like, it's such a poor country. You come feed the poor people. People a penny a day. Do you remember that commercial? A penny a day. And I'm like, I don't want to ever go to Africa. Meanwhile, that is the place that has the richest minerals in the ground. Egypt is Africa. And I started piecing all these things together. Sierra leone. All the 60% of the world's diamonds came from there. They slaughtered, raped, pillaged. I mean, stole names, stole culture, everything. And so once I really started learning about actual history, I was like, where does the last name Jones come from? I don't even know. And then I find out it's the most common last name in black America. And it derived over from, like, Dutch or something like that. And it came over and everything and went to Mississippi, went to Memphis and certain places and everything. But those were all slave plantations. And my last name, the Only reason why I never said anything to anyone because I've always kind of just like, I knew it was there, but I didn't want to look. It's kind of like when you're voting for a president and you're so fixated on the president, that person can do no wrong. So even if, you know, they're like, I don't believe in that shit, but that's my president. You don't, like, look past them things. And I did that with my own name. I was sitting in a diner with my wife. The only reason why I never brought this up, and this is probably why this happened in the first place, is because I didn't want offend to offend white people. But I'm the one suffering with a slave owner's last name. I'm like, literally, it's eating my soul. I'm looking at my children being like, oh, Soul Jones. It's called a given name. Whose name? And so when you find out these things now, you're like, so, okay, are you just gonna be okay with it or are you gonna do something about it? So I decided that I was gonna do something about it. My wife is very white, blonde hair, blue eyes. So she represents who I don't want to offend. Not her, but, like, in a whole culture. So I'm sitting at this diner, I said, baby, I got to talk to you. Something about something that's really important for me. And I start choking. I can't get it out. At the exact moment I'm choking, the lady right next to me starts choking, throwing up, and having a heart attack. I'm not even exaggerating at the exact moment. I'm a world class facilitator, so I just know what to do with that. Went over there, literally saved a lady's life. And I'm just held her breathe and doing all these things. And because nobody knew what to do at that moment, she, like, threw up all that stuff. And then as that situation got settled, I came back and I was like, I should probably give myself the advice that I just gave that lady. And I said, baby, it would mean more to me than anything in the world if we could change our last name. She was like, why? Because I told her a lot about. She knows a lot about, like, what happened to black people. I never told her about this one because I was afraid of this one. And when I told her, she was like, oh, my goodness. Well, in that case, yes. And she was like, oh, the irony of it all. She's like, I'm gonna take the last name of a black man and all that other stuff. And it was very fun and light hearted, but it was very, very meaningful to me. And she's like, so what would you, what would you name yourself? In that exact moment, something, the whole vibration came up my body and was like, ah, Shea. It's like, Ashe. She was like, what's that? I was like, I don't know. I just hear people say it at the end of prayer. I don't know what it means. I just know that my descendants are from West Africa on both sides of my family. My mother's maiden name is Goree. That's Gori island off the coast of Senegal. West Africa. And them definitely ain't no black people. So it's like it, it's. That slave trade is like right there. It's so close. And then they're both in West Africa. And we looked up Ashe and it meant like divine oneness. Just by saying the word Ashe, it puts you in the resonance of one oneness. And it derives from West Africa. So I had no idea. But I know one of my ancestors was just waiting for anybody in the lineage. Brother. Every single day from that conscious, aware moment, all of these supernatural things have been happening. Like something about that last name cut off something inside of me I didn't even realize I was in. Because everyone else I've been sharing about this is waking up to something they didn't know that they were in. You got to think we'd be like, oh, our forefathers is like, Lincoln freed the slaves. How many white people last name you know? Lincoln? All black people. Washington, Jackson, Jefferson. Those are all slave owners. So like, but this, they're not going to teach you this in history. All you got to do is just look. You just look and you're like, all these black people's last name are forefathers last names. And meanwhile, you got Mount Rushmore right on indigenous reserve. It's this holy sacred land. It is like, boom. So what? So some of these places that you think are tourist attractions are the most holiest, like the most sacred land in the entire world. The Grand Canyon ain't the Grand Canyon. Mount Rushmore ain't Mount Rushmore. That's why you go there and you got these little warning. Don't go beyond this right here. Those places are the vortexes.
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Host
How hard is it to change your last name?
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Garen Jones
It's a lot of paperwork. It's a lot of paperwork. I got a lawyer gotta fill out, got a thumbprint gotta do all this.
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Host
Other stuff, then you got the kids.
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Garen Jones
I'm 100%. And I don't care how long it takes.
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Host
You're in.
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Garen Jones
I wish to honor my lineage. There is no hatred in my body. What's done is done. However, I wish to honor my descendants. And that's that.
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Host
Well, and it's, it's powerful because people will hear that and go like, oh, that. You know, that's cliche. There's no hate in your body. But yet you have found a way to forgive the men who murdered your father 100%.
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Garen Jones
Because I know the power of what happens when you keep finding ways to release resentment. You know, and when I, I hated the two men who murdered my father when I was 12. I wish death upon them and their kids. But I don't think people understand how energy works, how resonance works. That's why when you feel really bad, a bunch of crazy stuff starts happening in your life. When you feel better than you've ever felt, you get the random checks out of nowhere and everything starts working in your life. And I had, at that point, I didn't, I had no knowledge of what field resentment was creating in my life and how it was causing things to break down and car wrecks and everything. You gotta understand, you're an energy body. You might just have this meat soup, but you got, your energy body is a hundred feet that way, that way, that way, that way. That's why you can walk in a room full of people who don't like you. Nobody's talking and you can feel it. You can walk in a room full of people who love you. Nobody's talking. You're like, oh my God, this feels so good. That's your energy body in communion with other bodies of the energy body. It's other people. And so for me, it was important for me to have a clear channel, a clear vessel. It's when the, when the drain in your sink is not clogged, the water runs through you are a vessel just like the drain. So if you got like hatred and guilt and shame in your body, oh, that's the equivalent of you driving on a freeway with no traffic and then you only two stops from your exit and it's bumper to bumper to bumper. You got too many dissonance energies that you got to go through. And anything that is negative, and that's the association with negative, regardless of what someone has done to you, that's a lower tiered frequency light is not heavy. So that heaviness once release is the same thing as when you have a volleyball underneath the water where it's not supposed to be, and then you just let go of the. You're like, oh, my God. How'd you get there so fast? I wasn't focused on fast. I just released the heavy. Hate is the exact same way. And so, knowing how energy works, I just powerfully choose to keep a clear channel. When it starts getting clogged up, I will literally look inside. Who do I need to forgive? Who do I need to clear with? What do I need to let go? What am I attached to? Have I been gossiping in my mind? What negative energies are creating a dissonance in the field that's causing me to feel heavy? And the moment I locate it, boom. All of a sudden, boom. It happened the other day. I just forgave a friend. I mean, I asked for forgiveness from a friend from, like, 12 years ago from something that I didn't realize that I did. That created a dissonance in our friendship when we were best friends. The moment I cleared that very next day, $50,000 in my account from. From. From a client that re upped for. For another six months. And she was like, hey, money. And she was so happy. She was like, money's in your account. Boop boopy doof. Yep, $50,000. I'm so excited to work with you for another six months. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I love the way this feels. It just feels really good, you know? And so then I just started getting, like, more like little check here from this one thing, this one company that I had, and it was just all coming because I cleared space. You create space to make room for your next level. But as long as you're binding that space, oh, you're going to be stuck in the same level like somebody failing the fifth grade over and over and over again.
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Host
Room for the next level doesn't always mean money, though. No, I mean, a lot of times it shows up very differently than money. Yeah, money's a very material and easy way to express it and articulate it. But for you, I'm sure it shows up in other ways as well.
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Garen Jones
It shows up in other ways, and the reason why it was money for me, because I said I wanted money to feel good in this season, and so it's giving me what I asked for. Boop boop be doop. Ain't nobody ever paid me just 50,000. Matter of fact, let me read this. I gotta read it. It's unheard of. I've never heard of anybody just hold on. What did she say right here? She goes like this. Money is freedom. Money is fun, Money is value, Money is creative potential. And now you have more of it in your bank account. I'm super excited for this supercharged round of in person sessions. It definitely feels so aligned and like the best way your skills can be put to use in terms of what my soul needs for highest development. Also more fun. I have never in my life received $50,000 with those words. And I was like, yo, that felt like a party. But I asked for that. I said, in this season, I just want money to feel fun and feel good. Next day, Boom. I was like, whoa. I didn't know it could be. That feels good and it felt fun. Yeah. So it's tailored around what you ask for.
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Host
What are you not asking for right now that you desire to or are afraid to?
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Garen Jones
And that's a good question. I wouldn't say afraid, but you. You just asking that had me to go in and think. I wish for my. I have a daughter who's 23. I wish for my family to be connected.
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Host
What do you think's holding that back?
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Garen Jones
Time.
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Host
It's what holds those things back.
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Garen Jones
Yeah, no, it's time. I mean, I was 32 before I got it. My daughter's 23, you know, and I under. I do understand where she's coming from. She, the version of dad that I was when she was born was a homeless guy that was $250,000 in debt. So seeing how present I am as a father, I know she would have always wanted that. She can have it now. But then you're dealing with a whole human and all these stories. And so what I'm wishing for in this moment is for Kylia, Soul, Blair, Laura, Mike Chief. To be connected in just like a beautiful, free flowing way.
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Host
It's beautiful.
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Garen Jones
Thank you for asking me that question because it had me like, scan. It had me scan and I can feel it in my body. I don't know when, but that is a wish of mine.
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Host
Yeah. And it will come.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
With time.
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Garen Jones
Yeah.
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Host
I think a lot of people associate pain as justification, let's say, for that they're broken. Right. I'm feeling pain. I knew I was broken. For the person listening to this that says, hey, I feel that pain, I'm broken. What's the first word, the first verse, the first vibration that you would encourage them to speak, to feel, to address the pain, address the brokenness and see what else is possible.
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Garen Jones
Maybe I would ask to use a word that is more Supportive of what you want. Because when I feel pain, I just say, oh, I have an opportunity of growth. Oh, I am having a character building day. Because when I start thinking from that lens, my character starts building instead of me falling into the mundane trap of what pain creates. You know, you'd be like, suffering pain. I gotta suffer in order to get ahead. Or you can use a different word. And where you speak from determines the energy that goes out in the field. I'm earning my stripes. I am so grateful that I'm being shaped and molded for something that's part of a much larger picture. Oh, my capacity is expanding today. See how I can relate to it? But there's an empowering energy to it. Rather than, oh, I'm feeling all this pain. I'm like, even when I'm sick, I don't even use the word sick. Say, my cells are rejuvenating and I'm on my way to a full recovery. It's like my cells are rejuvenating. My cells are rejuvenating. And I'm like, Speaking, that's. We're 75% water. So I'm a structure. This water in my body with the words out of my mouth and allow that vibration to at least quadruple the healing process.
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Host
Well, and also what you're doing is you're not accepting Webster's definition.
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Garen Jones
Right.
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Host
Words, Right, Right. Because what is sick? Well, let's go to the dictionary and look up the word sick. Well, that was his definition that we've adopted and accepted. And now it has an internal feeling when we use those words. And you're just like, definition doesn't fit me. I'm going to change that. Or that word doesn't fit me. I'm going to change that.
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Garen Jones
And you can't. You, you can make up words and you can, you can come up with your own definitions of things. There's somebody the other day, this one is just funny. He's like, man, I can't stand all these pronoun people. They just keep making up words. And I was just like, hey, all this shit's made up, just so you know. You mean to tell me other people can't make up Already made up words. Those words came from somewhere. Somebody came up words, male, female.
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Host
Somebody came up with, I'm all of it. All of it.
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Garen Jones
It's all made up. So you can't just make up words. In the beginning, there was the word. They weren't talking about that word. Universe don't speak English. They speak sound frequency and vibration. So in the beginning there was vibration, homie. So like, what are you talking about? You're in a thing you don't even realize that you're in. All this shit's made up, just so you know.
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Host
And it's okay.
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Garen Jones
Yeah, it's beautiful.
- [75:45]
Host
And if you want to make up words, make up words, it's okay. I mean, kids make up words all the time.
- [75:51]
Garen Jones
All the time.
- [75:52]
Host
And it's beautiful.
- [75:53]
Garen Jones
Makalaka laka laka laka, daddy. Makalaka laka. Then I'm like, makalaka laka laka laka.
- [75:59]
Host
Yeah. And then you go, oh, I kind of feel good when I use that word. I'm going to use that word. When I feel good or when I need to feel good, I'm going to use that word. Right? Like that's how I find myself with the kids. I'm like, wait, what did you say? Wait, what was that? I mean, literally last night we were watching Minions. My daughter wanted to watch Minions because there's this one part that she just laughs at hysterically and she's like, dad, I want to laugh before bed. Can we watch that part in Minions? I'm like, sure, whatever. Want to watch Minions? Let's watch Minions. And these minions are not speaking a language. She said, dad, what are they saying? I said, what do you want them to say? She just made up a whole thing. I'm like, how do you feel? She just started laughing.
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Garen Jones
That's so good. Yeah.
- [76:34]
Host
I'm like, okay, cool. That's what they said. She's like, is it really what they said? I'm like, yeah, that's what they said. She's like, how do you know? Like, because of how you feel.
- [76:41]
Garen Jones
Yeah.
- [76:42]
Host
And it doesn't matter what they said. Like, it doesn't really matter. It's all about how we feel. So take me back to 32 year old version of Garen.
- [76:52]
Garen Jones
Okay.
- [76:53]
Host
You can't give him advice, obviously. Can't go back in time. But what are you most proud of? Of that version of yourself that you're still holding true in yourself.
- [77:03]
Garen Jones
My resilience. You can't, you cannot keep me down. My resilience, it what I have grown through. Most people that you would consider really strong wouldn't last two days. And I still have a smile on my face. So what it takes to not have malice and ill will in my heart, walk around in peace. I have my moments, but I don't let my. I don't let moments take over my whole life. What it has taken for me to Be grounded in that level of peace, can walk in any room. And I don't shrink no matter who's in front of me. For some reason. That's probably why some of the most powerful business minds want me to coach them. Like, they want me to be their personal coach. They like, they don't feel safe around nobody. They were like, but you don't want anything from me. But I don't know who else to tell this, but you seem like you can hold a lot. I can. My capacity is crazy, but that's what allows me to be so grounded with other people. And a grounded person in your presence automatically promotes safety. And the safer you feel, the more you release. The more you release around a grounded person, the easier it is to heal. And so I am proud of my resilience. It's a superpower. It's a superpower. And what I've been able to overcome, it only gives me more reasons to be like, wow, God, you really wanted me to be alive. That man tried to murder me when I was 4 years old and drowned me in a dryer and throw a four year old in a dryer. That lady saved my life. Thank you, God. When those three men who are killing kids and animals and the community bio, then all of a sudden they threw me in that thing and I was about to get sucked into that tunnel. If I didn't sucked into the tunnel, I'd have died. A hand just went straight in, pulled me out. I looked up, I saw nobody. Thank you, God. When I'm standing outside of a nightclub after my friend or a guy that I was with fought somebody in the club I didn't know was a gang member, and there was a guy right here and a guy right here. Next thing you know, we're standing outside on the wall and some guy with a sawed off shotgun drives by. Boom, boom, dead, dead. I'm still alive. Thank you, God. Oh, and that's probably 4% of my story. Seen a lot, felt a lot, experienced a lot. And somehow God said, I need you to see all these things because you're one of the ones that's going to be able to connect with all these kind of people and then have so many stories which will be your end and a point of relation in so many different genres of people.
- [80:47]
Host
And when you say that's only 4% of your story, I know that to be true. I've been fortunate to be around you, to see you, to see your wife, to see your children. There's a lot more than what you've just shared today.
- [81:02]
Garen Jones
Yeah.
- [81:02]
Host
Somebody's listening to this. Like, okay, what's the other 96%? Where do they find you? Where do they follow you? I know the album is for you, but will be consumed by others. Where do they find out about the album? How do they plug into you?
- [81:15]
Garen Jones
You can go to my. My. My website, which is garon jones.com.
- [81:20]
Host
Gonna have to change that.
- [81:21]
Garen Jones
Huh?
- [81:22]
Host
Gonna have to change that.
- [81:22]
Garen Jones
Yeah, I know that is. That is. It's all in the process. But I'm just, like, getting past this whole thing. I'm telling them on the podcast to only refer to me as Garen. Yes. And trying to get Instagram to change it to just Garen. And so you're gonna go to my website. You're gonna go to Garen Jones, and. And I just have this. The one person that I know that will never take his eye off the little kid inside of the adult is me. I got a bullseye on the little kid inside of all of the adults. And this is where most. This is the fall of where most people start living a deteriorated life, even if their current life looks great. But without that little boy or that little girl, like, truly intact and woven in your life, there is a lot of things that's creating a dissonance in the field. And so, you know, I created a company called Artist Power that reason to teach people how to create and play from remembering and not escaping. And so I found a way to just create an offer that was $9.95 a month to change your life. But from that place, I said, give me the most amount of people, because what happens when you start lining yourself with that little one inside of you? The amount of energy you have, the amount of creativity, your capacity to, like, believe and remember things that you forgot about because you unlock motor neurons that were shut off since you were 4. I see it day in and day out, and I just never seen so many lines and wrinkles go off of people's faces because they didn't even realize how much energetically not being connected to their inner child was doing to them. So joining artist power at $9.95 is a good in because you're gonna do it anyways. Skip your coffee for one day, and then you have this for a whole month, and then you end up changing your life and having community. And I'm hopping on calls and things of that nature, so it'd be a good look for anybody that wants that version of yourself to be alive again.
- [84:14]
Host
Man, I. I appreciate it. I. I Get to sit on this side of the table for a lot of really cool conversations. But this one just hit differently. Like I, I needed this conversation today.
- [84:25]
Garen Jones
Why is that?
- [84:26]
Host
You know, I just think a lot of what you expressed is what I've been feeling. And I don't always feel a desire to put words and meaning to things. I kind of just let them feel. But when you're a husband and a father, like you have to use words to articulate sometimes, like where we're going or what we're doing. And we're going through a shift in our lives too, you know, we are so fortunate and so blessed to have amazing people around us, amazing opportunities, do all these incredible things. But energetically I've just been pulled to the ranch more and more and more and I haven't been able to properly articulate to Melissa and to our children as to why. And this conversation helped me feel how to articulate that helped me feel how to show up for that conversation. And honestly, it gave me permission to feel. I think a lot of times myself, especially feeling bad, right? Childhood, wherever I got those stories or those narratives, like, oh, I'm starting to feel shut down, escape, run to the other room, let me get out of here. And so a lot of times I try to use logic and reason for why we're going to do what we're going to do rather than feeling an emotion. And the conversation today just gave me permission to just use feeling as permission.
- [85:41]
Garen Jones
That. Let me tell you something before we close, that is the most embodied, smartest thing that you can do. Because that's who we were designed as. We're like multi dimensional beings. Someone goes, I don't believe in that stuff. I was like, you ever had a dream before? Where the fuck you think that comes from? The 3D? No, it does not. And I'm like, But to feel comes from the non physical world. You can't see it, but you can see the effect of it. You're born looking like your mom and dad, but you'll die looking like your decisions. So you're feeling. And when you speak from your feeling, that comes from the most magical part of you. That's where all the kids operate before we strip it away from them. And so you sharing that is just going to allow you to tap into just a layer of you that the little boy who shut down, it's going to be like, oh wait, some, somebody's. Somebody wants to be here with me. Wait, what then? It might be some time. You gotta earn that trust back. But then when that kid turns online, this thing and this thing and this thing and this thing. What's gotten into you? I found myself. Yeah. My real self.
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Host
What's gotten into me is me.
- [87:10]
Garen Jones
Talking to me, right?
- [87:11]
Host
Yeah. And then when you do that, you give your partner permission, you give your friends permission, you give your children permission, parents permission. Like that, to me, is just really perfect timing for a perfect conversation.