Podcast Summary: The Matt King Show – Episode 029 with Garen Jones (“Change Your Mindset, Change Your Life”)

Date: September 9, 2025
Host: Matt King (GoBundance)
Guest: Garen Jones

Episode Overview

This episode of The Matt King Show dives deep into the journey of Garen Jones: from homelessness and despair to global impact as a coach, artist, and entrepreneur. Garen unpacks pivotal mindset shifts, the resonance of truth, the reclaiming of personal and cultural history, and the ongoing work of living an authentic, connected, and empowered life. The conversation is raw, candid, and spiritually resonant, offering actionable wisdom about identity, forgiveness, and freedom.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Pit of Despair: Homelessness, Debt, and Breaking Points

• Garen recounts living in his car for two and a half years, deeply in debt, and twice attempting suicide.
  • “I was a little bit over 200 something thousand dollars in debt. I tried to take my life twice and I was at the rock bottom, rock bottom of my life.” (00:05, Garen Jones)
• Hitting rock bottom forced an openness to messages from unexpected places, catalyzing change once his mindset shifted.

2. The Transformative Power of a Mindset Shift

• A chance encounter with a homeless man changed everything:
  • “Change your mindset, change your life.” (00:21, Homeless man, quoted by Garen Jones)
• Garen’s realization: circumstances don’t have to change—your mind does.
  • “My life is a direct flip from where it was in 2011.” (00:34, Garen Jones)

3. The Role of Creativity, Music, and History

• Garen describes how his creative process—writing, music, his song “Stolen Influence”—sparked deep self-reflection about history, ancestry, and stolen culture.
  • “This album is for me. That's not even for people, it's for me.” (00:54, Garen Jones)
• Lyrics to “Stolen Influence” examine cultural erasure and reclaiming heritage.
• He discusses how mainstream narratives have shaped Black identity and his childhood longing to “be white” due to Western cultural programming.
  • “When you are brainwashed in the Western culture, you’ll turn on yourself.” (02:26, Garen Jones)

4. Truth, Resonance, and Letting Go

• Emphasizing “resonance,” Garen talks about only embracing what vibrates with truth—not just verbal truth, but embodied, felt truth.
  • “If it's not in resonance of truth ... I don't want it.” (05:13, Garen Jones)
• On releasing material attachments: his “G Wagon” story became a metaphor for clearing emotional clutter.
  • “Anywhere in your life that resembles trash is where you store your emotional garbage.” (09:26, Voice in Garen’s dream)

5. Family, Children, and Embodying Freedom

• Garen reflects on raising his “multidimensional” children, intentionally unlearning societal programming.
  • “Adults are deteriorated children ... my kids are my shamans 100%.” (06:21, Garen Jones)
• Teaching negotiation, self-actualization, sharing, and emotional literacy through example, and prioritizing presence over possessions.

6. Alignment, Giving, and Receiving

• Garen discusses cultivating abundance through giving freely, even before the world recognized his value.
  • “Do what you would do for free, and you will be paid immeasurably ... once you get past what you think patience is.” (31:19, Garen Jones)
• Sowing seeds everywhere—those he helped early in their careers later invited him into lucrative opportunities.

7. Energy, Resonance, and Spiritual Sovereignty

• The importance of tuning into energetic truth and learning to perceive beyond the physical senses.
  • “All I've ever done is studied resonance, frequency and vibration ... that's how I got out of prison.” (36:26, Garen Jones)
• Not investing in projects or people, but in the “resonance of truth.”

8. The Prison Experience: Finding Freedom Within

• Jailed for two years in France on drug charges, Garen learns the invincibility of the mind through a line in “Shawshank Redemption.”
  • “They can take anything they want away from me, but they can't take away my mind.” (47:36, Garen Jones referencing the film)
• An internal mantra (“I’m a free man”) changed how he showed up, ultimately resulting in a miraculous early release.
  • “There was a hierarchy of something spiritual ... I had to go to prison to find actual freedom.” (50:13, Garen Jones)

9. Reclaiming Identity: Changing His Last Name

• Garen’s journey toward authentic identity led him to change his last name from “Jones” (a name given to enslaved ancestors) to “Ashe.”
  • “I wish to honor my lineage. There is no hatred in my body ... I wish to honor my descendants.” (63:13, Garen Jones)
• The process is deeply personal and spiritual, symbolizing the reclaiming of power and ancestral heritage.

10. Forgiveness and Energetic Hygiene

• On forgiving those who murdered his father, Garen explains how holding onto resentment blocks abundance and “clogs the channel.”
  • “I know the power of what happens when you keep finding ways to release resentment.” (63:46, Garen Jones)
• Once he forgave and cleared old energetic blockages, blessings and money flowed to him effortlessly.

11. Language, Empowerment, and Framing Pain

• Garen advises listeners to redefine language around pain and suffering:
  • “Maybe I would ask to use a word that is more supportive of what you want. ... Oh, I am having a character building day.” (72:33, Garen Jones)
• Encourages creative reclamation—even inventing new words and definitions.

12. Inner Child, Resilience, and Legacy

• Deep pride in his resilience, and a commitment to reconnecting adults with their inner child.
  • “The one person that I know that will never take his eye off the little kid inside of the adult is me.” (81:22, Garen Jones)
• Through his company Artist Power, Garen works to help others unlock creativity, joy, and life-force by nurturing their inner child.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Circumstances don’t have to change—your mind does.” (00:29, Host)
• “I just want to inspire people, and I want to make a bunch of money, but I want the money to represent something that I passionately believe in, that I would do for free.” (26:10, Garen Jones)
• “Fear not the man that practices 10,000 kicks. Fear the man that practices one kick 10,000 times.” (33:07, Garen Jones quoting Bruce Lee)
• “Words, right? Because what is sick? … That might have been his definition. That doesn’t fit me.” (74:19, Host)
• “You’re born looking like your mom and dad, but you’ll die looking like your decisions.” (85:03, Garen Jones)
• “What it takes to not have malice and ill will in my heart, walk around in peace ... it only gives me more reasons to be like, wow, God, you really wanted me to be alive.” (77:02, Garen Jones)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:05] – Garen’s rock bottom: homelessness, debt, suicide attempts
• [00:21] – “Change your mindset, change your life.” The moment everything shifted
• [02:26] – Childhood reflections on race, history, and Western programming
• [09:26] – Selling possessions, emotional clearing linked to material objects
• [12:35] – Navigating change with family & parenthood
• [31:19] – The principle of giving freely and trust in alignment
• [36:26] – Developing intuition and resonance
• [47:36] – The lesson from Shawshank Redemption in prison
• [51:49] – Changing his last name to Ashe; reclaiming history
• [63:46] – The transformative power of forgiveness
• [72:33] – Reframing pain and adversity for growth
• [77:02] – Garen’s resilience, survival, and legacy
• [81:14] – Garen’s platform, Artist Power, and reconnecting with the inner child

Actionable Takeaways

• Mindset comes before all change. If your thinking shifts, so do the possibilities in your life.
• Be willing to release what’s not energetically clean—material or emotional.
• Reconnect with authentic heritage. Seek the true version of your story, beyond what you were told.
• Give generously; abundance will follow when your intentions align with service and truth.
• Practice true forgiveness to clear energetic space for growth and opportunity.
• Empower your children (and yourself) by modeling honest, multi-dimensional presence.
• Invent new frameworks and language that serve your journey, rather than default to disempowering definitions.
• Keep your inner child alive—it’s the source of your creativity, energy, and joy.

Where to Find Garen Jones

• Website: garenjones.com (note: soon evolving to reflect his new last name, Ashe)
• Community: Artist Power – programs to reconnect adults to their creative child self.

This episode is a must-listen for those seeking true transformation—beyond surface-level strategies—offering living proof that the deepest breakthroughs begin inward, and that living in alignment with your purpose, truth, and resonance creates both inner freedom and outer success.