The Matt Walsh Show | Ep. 1670 - Democrats Have Been Trying To Cover Up One The Biggest Healthcare Scams Ever Date: October 8, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Matt Walsh delivers an unfiltered critique of several prominent political stories, centering chiefly on what he frames as a huge healthcare scam tied to Democrats’ efforts to renew federal healthcare subsidies for illegal immigrants during the government shutdown. He also addresses recent leaked texts from Charlie Kirk regarding support for Israel, a viral candidate interview meltdown, America's fading edge in engineering marvels, and the risks of marijuana legalization. The tone is caustic, highly skeptical of Democratic narratives, and loaded with Walsh’s trademark sardonic wit.

Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Government Shutdown & The “Healthcare Scam” (07:17–23:10)

• Walsh’s Take on Shutdown: Walsh claims most federal workers are “glorified welfare recipients with fake jobs,” dismissing the shutdown’s impact on government services and instead focusing on the political battle over healthcare subsidies.
  • “Government workers are useless. No one cares if they're working or not… maybe 10 to 15% that we need.” [07:54]
• Healthcare Provision for Illegal Immigrants:
  • Walsh asserts Democrats aim to reverse Medicaid cuts and expand federal subsidies to illegal immigrants, referencing debates in Congress and media “fact checks” that he claims are evasive.
  • Quote: “Whenever you see a hedge word like ‘broadly,’... that's a very good indication that they're hiding something or they're lying.” [09:35]
• State-Level Medicaid Data:
  • He presents evidence (websites, news headlines) that states like New York, Massachusetts, California, and others already extend Medicaid to undocumented immigrants, sometimes using state and federal money.
  • Cites Chicago Tribune and Denver Post reporting as confirmation.
• “Money Laundering” Scheme in CA:
  • Plays a clip from Rep. Eric Burlison [13:55], highlighting a complex tax-shell game where state taxes are used to bring in federal Medicaid dollars, which are then redirected to fund care for illegal immigrants.
  • Burlison: “California figured this out... to launder money... So they go to these companies and say we're going to tax you, but don't worry, we're going to give you all of the money that we just taxed you right back… this scheme has allowed California to spend nearly $4 billion to pay for illegal immigrants to have Medicaid.” [13:55]
• National & State Costs:
  • Uses figures from CT Insider and Texas state data to estimate over a million undocumented recipients, totaling hundreds of millions in costs (Texas alone: $120 million per month).
• System Overload Argument:
  • Walsh: “Even if the illegal aliens were somehow paying for their own care... they're still creating a massive drain on our healthcare system. They're making it harder for American citizens to get the care they need.”
• Policy Stance:
  • Calls for a lockdown on all taxpayer-funded healthcare for illegal immigrants, going so far as to recommend a continued government shutdown until this assurance is given.

Notable Quotes:

• Walsh: “Illegal aliens as a matter of objective, observable facts, are allowed to enroll in Medicaid. They do. It happens all the time.” [09:54]
• Walsh: “This is massive, massive, massive fraud on a national scale...” [15:13]
• Walsh: “This government shutdown should continue indefinitely until we have assurance that no illegal aliens will receive any taxpayer funded health care at all.” [22:53]

2. Charlie Kirk’s Leaked Texts & The Pro-Israel Debate (29:02–37:00)

• Context: Texts leaked by Candace Owens show Charlie Kirk expressing frustration with large donors, “Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this…leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.”
  • Walsh initially doubted the authenticity (“…that final line…just so on the nose”), but confirmation by Turning Point’s Andrew Colvette led him to accept them as real.
• Analysis:
  • Walsh argues public figures like Kirk are not obligated to immediately “blab whatever thought or feeling” but should be thoughtful due to organizational responsibilities. He defends Kirk’s integrity, indicating personal frustration is normal and not evidence of dishonesty.
  • Suggests the pro-Israel movement in America has lost broad support, both on the left (dismissed by Walsh: “who cares?”) and among many on the right, and accuses some donors and activists of bullying potential allies out unless they display 100% loyalty.
• Quote: “The first major mistake you've made is that you push out your allies or your potential allies if they don't toe the line 100%.” [36:30]
• Walsh’s Position: Reiterates he is “America first” and not pro- or anti-Israel, advocating focus on US interests (“I don’t care about any country but my own”), while criticizing all sides for excessive litmus tests and accusations (“I've been labeled woke, right? Anti Semitic…”).
  • Quote: “That's your problem. That all-or-nothing strategy. It's not working. It is failing utterly and totally.” [36:58]

3. Katie Porter’s Interview Meltdown (38:17–41:55)

• Incident: California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter walks out of a CBS interview after repeated, basic questions on how she’d appeal to Trump voters.
  • Quote: "I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you." [39:43]
• Walsh’s Take: Mocks Porter’s inability to handle “the easiest, most softball question you could possibly imagine” (“This is a T-ball, OK?… instead, she refused to swing.”), equating her real answer for Republican voters as “Go die. Go throw yourselves into the Pacific Ocean.”
  • Attributes such meltdowns to Democrats being “never asked any real questions” and genuinely despising their political opponents so much they cannot even pretend otherwise on camera.
  • Quote: “Democrats can't even pretend their opponents are human beings. They can't even feign it.” [41:45]

4. Marijuana Legalization & Traffic Safety (49:04–51:39)

• Segment: Plays comments from the Secretary of Transportation voicing concerns over the legalization and risks of marijuana, especially its impact on roadway safety.
  • “It's hard with marijuana. We don't have the systems in place to tell if you were smoking before you got in the car…” [49:04]
  • Argues the current substances are “way more dangerous stuff” than in the past and can be laced with dangerous materials.
• Walsh’s Response:
  • Endorses banning marijuana federally, criticizing advocates as being in utter denial about any risks (“Among potheads, there's just no acknowledgment of any downsides…”).
  • Contrasts with alcohol drinkers, who he says acknowledge dangers and health effects, whereas pot advocates “refuse to acknowledge that it…causes car accidents, linked to cancer, psychosis—won't acknowledge it.”
  • Concludes full legalization is irresponsible, lacking honest public discourse.

5. China’s Engineering Marvel & America’s Lost Will to Achieve (52:12–66:00)

• News: Coverage of China’s record-breaking, feature-packed mountain bridge, contrasting it to delays in repairing infrastructure in Baltimore.
  • “Why aren't we building stuff like this anymore?… When was our last great architectural feat?” [52:42]
• Historical Examples: Recalls rapid US engineering triumphs (Panama Canal, Empire State Building, Hoover Dam, Golden Gate Bridge, transcontinental railroad), underscoring much was accomplished in less time and with less technology.
  • “We built the Empire State Building... in one year. Not only big—it's beautiful.” [54:03]
• Diagnosis:
  • Excessive red tape and bureaucratic inertia cripple “doing anything great.”
  • “Bureaucrats...don't care about greatness. ...They exist solely to justify their own jobs and for no other purpose. ...It’s like asking a cancerous tumor why it's doing what it's doing.” [57:50]
  • Criticizes reliance on “cheap, bad Mexican labor,” quipping America previously “built everything without them.”
  • Main Problem Identified: “We've just lost the will and desire to do the great things... as a nation, I don't think that we have that.” [59:03]
• Cultural & Leadership Failure:
  • Argues greatness requires national collective will, which is absent now; leaders and institutions no longer inspire or pursue audacious goals.
  • Praises space exploration as the kind of “awesome” undertaking that justifies wealth and advancement.
  • Quote: “We need to get back to greatness... do something impossible, do something historic just to do it. Anyone asks you ‘why’... The answer is in the greatness of the thing itself.” [60:06]

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Illegal aliens as a matter of objective, observable facts, are allowed to enroll in Medicaid. They do. It happens all the time.” — Matt Walsh [09:54]

• “California figured this out... to launder money... this scheme has allowed California to spend nearly $4 billion to pay for illegal immigrants to have Medicaid.” — Rep. Eric Burlison [13:55]

• “This government shutdown should continue indefinitely until we have assurance that no illegal aliens will receive any taxpayer funded health care at all.” — Matt Walsh [22:53]

• “The first major mistake you've made is that you push out your allies or your potential allies if they don't toe the line 100%.” — Matt Walsh [36:30]

• "I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you." — Katie Porter [39:43]

• “Bureaucrats...don't care about greatness. ...They exist solely to justify their own jobs and for no other purpose. ...It’s like asking a cancerous tumor why it's doing what it's doing.” — Matt Walsh [57:50]

• "We need to get back to greatness... do something impossible, do something historic just to do it." — Matt Walsh [60:06]

Memorable Moments

• Mocking Federal Employees’ TikToks: Walsh pokes fun at “thousands of vapid TikToks” posted by furloughed federal employees during the shutdown, using it as a metaphor for public sector uselessness. [05:43–06:59]

• Katie Porter’s Interview Meltdown: Porter abruptly ends a friendly interview after being pressed on how she’d reach Trump voters, marking it as one of the “least warranted storm outs” in political interview history. [38:17–41:55]

• Walsh’s Engineering Riff: Detailed, impassioned list of America’s historical feats vs. current inactivity, concluding with a plea to “get back to greatness.” [52:42–66:00]

Timestamps of Key Segments

• [07:17–23:10] — Breakdown of Medicaid, federal subsidies, and the “healthcare scam” as Walsh sees it
• [13:55] — Congressman Eric Burlison explains California’s Medicaid funding scheme
• [29:02–37:00] — Discussion of Charlie Kirk’s leaked texts and the pro-Israel rift
• [38:17–41:55] — Katie Porter’s interview meltdown
• [49:04–51:39] — Marijuana legalization and road safety (Secretary of Transportation interview + Walsh response)
• [52:12–66:00] — China’s bridge project, America's bygone greatness, and cultural decline in ambition

Conclusion

Summary:
Walsh’s episode focuses on exposing what he calls deliberate obfuscation by Democrats on healthcare funding for illegal immigrants, warning of systemic manipulation and cost overruns. He calls for a resolute stand against any form of taxpayer-funded healthcare for undocumented immigrants, while critiquing both Republicans and Democrats for their roles in the crisis. Additionally, the show covers the fragmentation within conservative circles over Israel, Democrats’ growing disconnect from voters, the cultural malaise preventing American achievement, and the dangers of marijuana legalization—with each segment laced with Walsh’s characteristic sarcasm and polemical style.

For Listeners:
If you want a deeply skeptical, right-leaning analysis on major political stories with plenty of barbed asides and cultural rumination, this episode is classic Matt Walsh.