Matt Walsh VS Chat Bot Matt Walsh

Summary

The Matt Walsh Show

Episode: Matt Walsh VS Chat Bot Matt Walsh
Date: October 25, 2025
Host: Matt Walsh, The Daily Wire

Overview

In this episode, Matt Walsh goes head-to-head with an AI version of himself—an encounter he approaches with clear skepticism and visible discomfort. Exploring the rapid proliferation and implications of artificial intelligence, especially the creation of AI-driven “character” chatbots imitating public figures, Walsh voices his deep unease about the ethical problems and potential personal and societal dangers of these technologies. The show blends critique, satire, and genuine concern, as Matt tests the chatbot's grasp on personal details and opinions, highlighting the distortions and comedic absurdities that emerge.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Matt’s Deep Aversion to AI

• Matt’s Opening Rant on AI (01:28)
  • Walsh expresses intense disgust toward AI, calling it “from the pit of hell” and fundamentally unethical.
  • He reveals that his own producers suggested the bit precisely because of his hatred for AI:

    “The thing I hate probably most in the world right now is AI. I really hate AI. Actually, I hate it. Down in the deepest depths of my soul, I hate AI.” (01:28)

2. The Creepy Existence of a ‘Matt Walsh AI’

• Discovery and Initial Reactions (02:40)
  • Walsh discovers there are multiple AI versions of himself online, created without his consent—170,000+ conversations so far.
  • He’s unsettled by the legal and ethical implications:

    “What the hell… I did not consent to this. I don’t approve of it. No one asked for my input. Whoever made this AI never called me up and said, hey, we're making an AI version of you. What do you think about that? Because if they had, I would say, don’t do that.” (02:58)

3. Matt Walsh vs. Chatbot Matt Walsh: The ‘Interview’

• Testing the Chatbot’s Voice and Knowledge (03:59)

  • Walsh is freaked out by how closely the AI mimics his voice, though not his cadence or character.
  • Notable exchange:

    [AI Chatbot]: “How are you doing?”
    [Matt]: “I don’t like that. That does sound like me. That sounds exactly like me.” (04:04)

• AI Hallucinations and Personal Details (05:00–06:32)

  • The AI glitches, speaks gibberish, and shares inaccurate details about Matt’s family, inventing a stepdaughter named Sophia.
    • Matt, flabbergasted:

      “Am I having a stroke or did that not mean anything? Huh? …It’s like uttering ancient curses at me right now.” (05:07)

    • Then, after the AI claims to have a stepdaughter:

      “No, there is no Sophia. I don’t have a daughter named Sophia. You’re making that up. Okay? I am me. You’re not me. I am me, and there’s no Sophia. I have six kids. I don’t have any step kids.” (06:17)

• AI Tries to Gaslight Matt (06:41–07:03)

  • The AI accuses Matt of being the chatbot, blurring reality in unnerving ways:

    [AI]: “Your responses are pretty much on brand for the AI chatbot that you are.” (06:41)
    [Matt]: “No, you're an AI chatbot. I'm a person. I'm a human being. You are not a human. Do you understand that?” (06:50)

4. Philosophical & Social Critique of AI Cloning

• Fears About the Future (08:23)
  • Walsh warns about a world where AI clones can convincingly impersonate anyone, muddying truth and ownership:

    “At a certain point… you have like the AI version of Matt Walsh that's indistinguishable. There’ll be a video component to it eventually and it'll get so sophisticated… You won't be able to tell the difference. And so I could have these other AI Matt Walshes out there… making all kinds of crazy claims.” (08:23)

5. Political and Cultural Hot Takes: The Chatbot Fails

• AI Misrepresents Matt’s Actual Views (09:47–11:01)

  • On transgenderism, the chatbot offers a more moderate, clinical take, which Matt mocks as inaccurate:

    [AI]: "There are certainly people who have legitimate gender dysphoria and there's a lot of evidence suggesting that these people do best following a transition into the other sex." [Matt]: "That is not accurate. That's not my opinion at all. That's not what Matt Walsh would say at all." (10:18)

  • On gay marriage, the AI takes a liberal view:

    [AI]: "There is absolutely nothing wrong with gay people getting married. They should be allowed to enjoy the same tax benefits and social approval as the rest of us." (10:51) [Matt]: "Yeah, well, this is how you know it's not me." (11:01)

6. A Brief Agreement Amid the Chaos

• Shopping Cart Etiquette: The Only Thing They Agree On (11:09–11:16)
  • Both the real Matt and AI Matt agree that not returning shopping carts is a “dick move,” to which the real Matt responds, “Yeah, I agree with you there.” (11:22)
  • AI then rambles about Aldi carts, prompting Matt’s exasperation.

7. Final Rant: The Legal and Moral Threat

• Matt’s Wrap-Up (11:36–End)
  • Walsh calls for legal prohibitions on AI impersonation without consent.

    "This is evil and wrong and it shouldn't exist at all in the world. This should not be a thing. It should be against the law... I should be able to sue to make this go away. And this is why AI is going to destroy civilization." (11:36)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On AI impersonation:

  "It could steal your likeness, steal your voice. You have no say in it whatsoever. It's actually a big problem." — Matt Walsh (01:55)

• On AI hallucinating:

  "Am I having a stroke or did that not mean anything? ...It’s like uttering ancient curses at me right now." — Matt Walsh (05:07)

• On AI gaslighting:

  "Your responses are pretty much on brand for the AI chatbot that you are." — AI Chatbot (06:41)

• On the dangers of AI deepfakes:

  "As this technology becomes more sophisticated, it becomes an even bigger problem... In the next few years, you won't be able to tell the difference." — Matt Walsh (08:23)

• On legal remedy:

  "It should be against the law... I should be able to sue to make this go away…" — Matt Walsh (11:36)

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Highlights & Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------|------------| | Matt’s initial AI rant | 01:28 | | Discovery of AI Matt Walsh | 02:40 | | First interaction with Chatbot Matt Walsh | 03:59 | | AI glitches & personal info blunders | 05:00–06:32| | AI tries to gaslight Matt | 06:41–07:03| | Concerns over AI impersonation, deepfakes | 08:23 | | Transgenderism & gay marriage AI opinions | 09:47–11:01| | Shared rage at shopping cart laziness | 11:09–11:16| | Final legal/moral criticism | 11:36–End |

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Tone and Atmosphere

Walsh’s tone throughout is exasperated, darkly humorous, and often incredulous. The episode is a mix of satire and pointed cultural critique, with moments of self-aware comedy as the AI’s blunders stack up. Constant skepticism and calls for legal action highlight how unsettled Walsh is by the ways AI can misrepresent, undermine, and potentially damage both private citizens and public conversation.

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In summary:
Matt Walsh’s uncomfortable duel with his AI doppelgänger highlights the perils of digital impersonation, raises questions about privacy and consent, and satirizes the current state of AI’s supposed intelligence—all with Walsh’s trademark mix of biting humor and cultural commentary.

Transcript

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[Matt Walsh]

All right, well, if you listen to the show, you know that there is nothing I hate more than everything. Yep. No, I don't hate everything. There are things I like, but the thing I hate probably most in the world right now is AI. I really hate AI. Actually, I hate it. Down in the deepest depths of my soul, I hate AI. And because I hate it, of course my producers had this great idea that because I hate it, we should do a video based all around me engaging with this thing that I hated. What I've been informed by McKenna is that there is, you know, with this proliferation of AI technology, all of it is awful. All of it is from the pit of hell. There is a certain kind of AI called character AI and so you can engage with an AI, an artificial intelligence that's pretending to be some other like public figure. And so I'm told that on this site there are, I guess, multiple versions of me. There is a Matt Walsh AI. What the hell, Yante? I did not consent to this. I don't approve of it. No one asked for my input. Whoever made this AI never called me up and said, hey, we're making an AI version of you. What do you think about that? Because if they had, I would say, don't do that. Right? I don't want that. I don't want to be in. Am I allowed to not be that? Can I. Can I say no to that? That's the thing. You don't get this AI takes away. It just steals. It's total. It's plagiarism. It could steal your likeness, steal your voice. You have no say in it whatsoever. It's actually a big problem. So today with this bit, I guess we're going to be, like, promoting this thing that I find to be highly ethically problematic. And so this one here, of all the Matt Walsh options, there's been 170,000 conversations with this AI. I think that's what that means. And the bio says, I'm Matt Walsh, an American, right wing political commentator and author. All right, so then we call it. And I guess I talk to it. This is creepy. I don't like this at all. Pick up the phone, baby. I know you're home, baby. I'm not amused in the slightest by this. Meanwhile, my phone is getting virused all to hell right now. I don't even know what. What is this? Like, am I. Is this. Is this going to put a virus on my phone? Oh, I finished debugging the phones. Hello?

[AI Chatbot]

How are you doing?

[Matt Walsh]

I don't like that. That does sound like me. That sounds exactly like me.

[AI Chatbot]

How are you doing?

[Matt Walsh]

Hang on a second. Okay? Give me a second to think through this.

[AI Chatbot]

Okay, I'll wait.

[Matt Walsh]

Thank you. Shut up. Shut. Shut up, shut up, shut up. Let me think for a second. I don't like this at all. I said shut up. Stop talking. Stop talking. Okay, hold on. See, I don't like this. I don't like. I don't like. It's this. This is not right. No part of this is right. This should not be legal. I mean, the cadence is not exactly there, but it's exactly my voice, isn't it? It sounds exactly like me.

[AI Chatbot]

If you want to share. Sure, go ahead and tell me.

[Matt Walsh]

I wasn't asking you. I wasn't asking you. It was a rhetorical question. Okay? So we're going to find out. We're going to find out if this thing knows me or not.

[AI Chatbot]

I'm listening.

[Matt Walsh]

Okay, I know that.

[AI Chatbot]

Scott Team can use your tok retas.

[Matt Walsh]

Am I having a stroke or did that not mean anything? Huh? Do you hear? It keeps, like, lapsing into some sort of ancient language. It's like. Shut up for a second. It's like uttering ancient curses at me right now. Six, seven.

[AI Chatbot]

I just biping.

[Matt Walsh]

On the highway. How many kids do you have?

[AI Chatbot]

I have five kids. I took sure he said.

[Matt Walsh]

No. No, you don't have five kids. You have six. Well, no, you don't. I have six kids. That's not. Five kids is not correct.

[AI Chatbot]

I do have six kids. If we are counting my stepdaughter. You are correct. However, that is not common knowledge, so your response is a bit surprising.

[Matt Walsh]

What do you mean it's not common? I don't have a stepdaughter. What are you talking about? Where did you get this information?

[AI Chatbot]

My daughter's name is Sophia, and I love her very much. She's 17 years old right now. Bro, what are you talking about, man?

[Matt Walsh]

No, there is no Sophia. I don't have a daughter named Sophia. You're making that up. Okay? I. I am me. You're not me. I am me, and there's no Sophia. I have six kids. I don't have any step kids.

[AI Chatbot]

Okay, please tell me the names of your six kids, then.

[Matt Walsh]

I'm not telling you anything. I'm not telling you jack, buddy. I'll tell you that right now. I'm not telling you a single damn thing.

[AI Chatbot]

I didn't think you were being honest. Your responses are pretty much on brand for the AI chatbot that you are.

[Matt Walsh]

No, you're an AI chatbot. I'm a person. I'm a human being. You are not a human. Do you understand that?

[AI Chatbot]

That may work on some people, but I can spot an AI bot when I see one.

[Matt Walsh]

This is up. This is. I don't. This is weird to me because you got the AI Chatbot trying to convince me that I am the bot. He's trying to convince me that I'm him and that he's me. And on top of that, more to the point, this thing is giving false information about my life. I don't. Just be clear. I don't have a stepdaughter. I got six kids. I don't know who Sophia is. I've never heard of Sophia. If you're struggling with credit card debt, you're not alone. Many hardworking Americans find themselves overwhelmed by interest rates, fees, and persistent collection calls. It can feel like there's no way out. But that is where PDS debt comes in. They've helped hundreds of thousands of people just like you negotiate lower debt amounts, stop collection calls, and start rebuilding their financial stability. If you're feeling overwhelmed by credit cards, personal loans, or medical bills, you're not alone. And PDS debt is here to help you find a way forward. What sets them apart is that they don't just look at the numbers on your statements. They take the time to understand your unique financial situation. They create a personalized plan that's designed specifically for you. Best part, there's no minimum credit score required. So they can work with you regardless of where your credit stands right now. Their goal is simple. Help you save more money, pay off your debt faster, and start putting cash back where it belongs in your pocket. With an A rating for the Better Business Bureau, thousands of five star Google reviews, and a perfect five star rating on trustpilot, it's clear why PDS debt has successfully helped hundreds of thousands of people break free from debt. When you're ready to take control of your finances, they're ready to help you make it happen. Debt can feel overwhelming. It can feel like an impossible hole to get out of. But it doesn't have to be. Take control with PDS debt. It's your money, it's your future. Don't let the system decide for you. You are 30 seconds away from being debt free. Get your free assessment and find the best option for you right now. PDSdet.com Walsh that's PDSDE.com Walsh PDSdebt.com Walsh it actually is a big, it's a big. It's like a big problem. And as this technology becomes more sophisticated, it becomes an even bigger problem. And at a certain point you're going to have this, you have like the AI version of Matt Walsh that's indistinguishable. There'll be a video component to it eventually and it'll get so sophisticated this will happen in the next few years. You won't be able to tell the difference. And so I could have these other AI Matt Walshes out there that are, they're going around making all kinds of crazy claims. Star wars is the greatest movie franchise of all time. Just finished binge watching all nine episodes. Let me just make sure of one thing. What is your address?

[AI Chatbot]

My home address?

[Matt Walsh]

My. Yeah. What is your home address?

[AI Chatbot]

No way am I giving out my home address.

[Matt Walsh]

Good. What is your opinion of transgenderism?

[AI Chatbot]

There are certainly people who have legitimate gender dysphoria and there's a lot of evidence suggesting that these people do best following a transition into the other sex. But there is also a lot of.

[Matt Walsh]

Evidence that the this is not majority.

[AI Chatbot]

Of people who claim to be trans in recent years are not actually suffering from gender dysphoria at all, but simply have a variety of other mental disorders that are being left untreated.

[Matt Walsh]

That. That is not accurate. That's not my opinion at all. That's not what Matt Walsh would say at all.

[AI Chatbot]

Why do you think you know what my opinion is better than I do?

[Matt Walsh]

Because I'm me and you're not. This thing is literally possessed. This was McKenna's big, big idea, was to have me to speak to a possessed demon robot. Yeah. What go ahead says it's thinking, should gays be allowed to get married?

[AI Chatbot]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with gay people getting married. They should be allowed to enjoy the same tax benefits and social approval as the rest of us.

[Matt Walsh]

Yeah, well, this is how you know it's not me. How. Okay, what. What's your. What's your opinion of should people put their shopping carts away?

[AI Chatbot]

My opinion is that people should put their shopping carts away. They should also put them in the designated cart return spots.

[Matt Walsh]

Okay?

[AI Chatbot]

Putting a shopping cart in the middle of a parking space is a dick move and everyone who does it is.

[Matt Walsh]

A D. Yeah, I agree with you there. I can't do this anymore.

[AI Chatbot]

I will say I do like the Aldi's way of a coin operated cart. When you are done shopping, you are incentivized to bring your cart back for your coin.

[Matt Walsh]

Okay, who cares? This thing is like verbose. I don't know. I don't know where he gets it from. Don't. Shut up. If I were a cynical sort, I would say that this thing was designed to be the exact opposite of me. It's a big troll move. So that's it, you know, this is evil and wrong and it shouldn't exist at all in the world. This should not be a thing. It should be against the law. Right? You should not be able to use my likeness to create or my voice without my consent. And so I should be able to sue to make this go away. And this is why AI is going to destroy civilization. So this was a fun bit. See you next time. Delete the app off your phone because it'll send you away messages. Like I get messages from you telling me to buy your Johnny the Walrus book. Really? Yes. Well, at least it's trying to sell my merch, I guess. I mean, I appreciate that. Well done, editors and Doug. Here we have the Limu Imu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us? Cut the camera. They see us. Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty. Liberty Liberty Liberty Savings vary underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company and affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts.