The View Is Leftist Propaganda, Part 2 | Proof For Your Liberal Friend

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The Matt Walsh Show

Episode: The View Is Leftist Propaganda, Part 2 | Proof For Your Liberal Friend
Date: August 16, 2025
Host: Matt Walsh (The Daily Wire)

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Overview

This episode centers on Matt Walsh's critique of "The View," focusing on its hosts' discussions around religion, LGBTQ issues, and free speech. Walsh provides an in-depth rebuttal to specific claims made by Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar, arguing that the show exemplifies leftist propaganda and logical inconsistency, particularly in discussions about Christianity and free expression online. The episode is constructed as a toolkit for listeners to debate or "prove" points to their liberal friends, using real examples and counterarguments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Religion, LGBTQ Issues, and “Weaponizing” Jesus

[00:34–02:33]

• Clip Recap: Walsh plays a segment from "The View," where Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar argue that conservatives use religion to attack the LGBTQ community, asserting, “Jesus would be the grand marshal at the Pride Parade.”
• Host's Reaction: Walsh criticizes "The View" panelists for what he perceives as hypocrisy—accusing conservatives of "weaponizing religion," while proceeding to reinterpret Christian doctrine to support their own cultural agenda.
• Biblical Context: Walsh emphasizes, "Pride is identified in scripture repeatedly and by Jesus himself, repeatedly, as a sin" (03:25). He draws a distinction between feeling proud of achievements or loved ones and "the kind of haughty, vain, self-centered, egotistical—I am the center of the universe—kind of pride, which is exactly the sort of pride the Pride Parade is designed to communicate" (04:10).
• Marriage and Sexuality: Walsh reinforces that, scripturally, "The Bible does, in fact, in both the Old and New Testament, in very explicit terms, lay out the homosexual act as a sin. In fact, any sexual act that happens outside the bonds of marriage is a sin according to Christian sexual morality" (05:30).
• Logical Inconsistency: He highlights what he describes as a rhetorical trap: "They try to do both. This is their game…On one hand, no one cares what the Bible says. Don’t use your religion. And then on the other hand, 'I’ll tell you what your religion says about this'" (07:00).

Notable Quote

• "If you correct them on what your religion says, then they can revert back to the first talking point and says, ‘Why are you talking about religion? You brought it up.’" — Matt Walsh [07:18]

2. Whoopi Goldberg’s Twitter Exit and Free Speech Claims

[08:38–09:38]

• Clip Recap: Whoopi Goldberg announces her departure from Twitter, expressing discomfort with the platform's new direction under Elon Musk, citing the return of previously banned attitudes and accounts.
• Host's Reaction: Walsh mocks the performative nature of Whoopi's exit, saying, "That’s kind of an anticlimactic way to go about it. I’m done. I mean, I might come back later, but I’m done for now… I mean, if this scares Whoopi Goldberg away, I can't imagine Twitter without Whoopi Goldberg" (09:55).
• Fragility and Free Speech: He criticizes Goldberg and like-minded progressives as "fragile," unable to handle opposing views: "I was insulated from them and now their ideas are going to be…I'm going to maybe be exposed to some of their ideas and opinions and their words. And I can't. I can't deal with that" (10:15).

Memorable Moment

• Walsh lampoons the gravity of Whoopi's Twitter exit:
  • "I will not be on Twitter again until at least tomorrow morning, if not a little bit sooner. But at this moment, right now, I'm not gonna be. I am not using Twitter at this moment while I'm on TV." — Matt Walsh [09:50]

3. Debate over Free Speech: Who Decides What Speech Is “Okay”?

[11:10–12:07]

• Clip Recap: Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg discuss Section 230 and internet free speech protections, with Whoopi asserting, "All speech is not free speech. Some speech is not okay. Free speech. So everybody has to agree on that" (11:43).
• Host's Reaction: Walsh notes the centuries-old debate about free speech, but rejects Goldberg's subjective framing: "Whoopi Goldberg has, I guess, settled the debate entirely. She says that some speech is just not okay. And how do we know if it's not okay or not? I guess she'll tell us" (12:12).
• Clear Exceptions: He outlines his view of genuine exceptions: "Direct, violent threats… using a pronoun you don't like is not a threat… Disagreeing with you is not a threat… Defamation, right? Slander, libel… Those are pretty much all the exceptions" (12:30).
• Principle for Platforms: "If Elon Musk is saying is a commitment to free speech… that means people should be able to simply just express their ideas and their opinions and that's it" (13:10).
• Self-Policing: He concludes, "If you don't like what someone says, you can disagree with them, you can even block them. You can choose not to read it… Let people speak, let them voice their opinions. That's it. That's all" (13:47).

Notable Quote

• "Most of the speech that goes on on social media, people might be vulgar, they might be… cruel, they might be rude, but they're essentially just expressing their opinion. And if you're expressing your opinion, that's free speech." — Matt Walsh [13:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Religion/LGBTQ Segment from The View: 00:34 – 02:33
• Walsh on Weaponizing Religion Hypocrisy: 02:33 – 07:18
• Whoopi Goldberg Quits Twitter: 08:38 – 09:38
• Walsh Mocks Whoopi’s Twitter Exit: 09:38 – 10:15
• Whoopi & Joy on Section 230 and Free Speech: 11:10 – 12:07
• Walsh on Exceptions to Free Speech: 12:07 – 13:47

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Tone & Style

Walsh maintains a provocative, sardonic approach throughout, poking fun at "The View" and sharply criticizing what he sees as their logical flaws and emotionalism. The language is direct, occasionally mocking, with a focus on being combative toward leftist media and reinforcing conservative values. Quotes are delivered in a blunt, often confrontational manner.

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Summary for New Listeners

Matt Walsh uses this episode to dissect and rebut recent "The View" debates regarding LGBTQ issues and free speech. He argues that the panelists display both ignorance of Christian teaching and a troubling desire to police speech online. Employing a mix of biblical references, logical counterpoints, and caustic humor, Walsh positions himself as an antidote to leftist media narratives and offers his audience arguments to counter common progressive talking points.

Transcript

[Joe Walsh]

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[Whoopi Goldberg]

All speech is not free speech. Some speech is not okay. Free speech.

[Joy Behar]

Jesus would be the grand marshal at the Pride Parade.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

Gay people are here. They're not going anywhere.

[Joe Walsh]

Speaking of desperate on the View yesterday, I just want to play this for you. It's not exactly a lead headline, but they were talking about all this yesterday. And Jesus, you know, it's one thing to defame Libs of TikTok or me or Chris Ruffo or Donald Trump or one of the usual suspects. That's one thing. Of course, infinitely more outrageous and offensive is when they try to drag Jesus Christ into this, which is what they did on the View. Listen to this.

[Joy Behar]

They were in a place that accepts them for who they were, and someone came to that place. And that's what. It's so sad. I don't know, that they hide behind religion, because I said this on this show once before. Jesus would be the grand marshal at the Pride Parade about gay people. I mean, in every argument we have to weaponize religion.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

Here's my question.

[Joy Behar]

But it's wrong.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

If you're so afraid, why are you going over there?

[Joy Behar]

Yeah.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

If they scare you so much, leave them alone. When stuff scares me, I leave it alone. If I don't want to be bothered, I don't go there. See, that's the problem. You don't want to just have your feelings. You want everybody else to join you. And you know what? You can. You can scream, you can cuss, you can do all the things that you say. But you know what? Gay people are here. They're not going anywhere. There is nothing you can do. You know, you can yell and scream, but, you know, as the Lord, as everybody was talking about, you know, made in God's image.

[Joe Walsh]

Yep.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

Made in God's image. There are no but. Except for. There's none of that.

[Joy Behar]

No.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

Keep that in mind when you're trying to figure out where you stand as a human being, let alone a Christian. We'll be right back.

[Joe Walsh]

It's just amazing. She says you can't just have your feelings. You need everyone else to join you. What? That's the left to a T. That's the perfect way of describing the left Especially the LGBT left and gender ideology. You can't just have your feelings. You need everyone to join you. You can't just feel like the opposite gender. You need everyone else to join you in affirming you in that. But what I really appreciate is that the one chick at the beginning starts by saying, and I honestly don't know any of their names except for Whoopi, Goldberg and Joy. So I know those two. I don't know the other, however many it is. The chick at the beginning says that they're weaponizing religion. They use religion. And then for the rest of the segment, all the other women on the panel do what she just accused conservatives of doing. They start using religion to weaponize it against their opponents. So they're like, contradicting exactly what she just said. And what we hear from one of them is that Jesus would have been the grand marshal at the Pride Parade. Would have been the grand marshal. Well, that's wrong on many levels. But let's talk about two of them. One is really basic here is that Jesus would not be the grand marshal of any parade that has pride in the title, because pride is identified in scripture repeatedly and by Jesus himself, repeatedly, as a sin. Okay. Pride is a sin. Now, it's one thing, the English language sometimes falls short when it comes to translating biblical texts. And so we have to kind of figure out what is meant by pride. Because you can have. You could say that. I could say, I'm proud of my children, I'm proud of my family. You could even have pride in accomplishments. If you accomplish something, you can say, I'm proud of doing that. I'm proud of the work that I did. Nothing wrong with any of that. Because you're taking pride in something else, right? You're taking pride in achievement, something that was done. You're taking pride in someone else, a family member. That's just. Which is another way of saying love. It's just, you love them. The kind of pride that we're warned about in Scripture is this kind of haughty, vain, self centered, egotistical, I am the center of the universe kind of pride, which is exactly the sort of pride that the Pride Parade is designed to communicate and convey and celebrate. It's all about me. Hey, that's what the whole Pride Parade is, right? It's just, everyone, look at me, look at me. That's all it is. So it doesn't even matter the context. Whatever the context, if you're engaging in that kind of pride, Jesus is not going to celebrate it with you. He's going to have some stern words for you about turning from your sin. But then there is also the context to keep in mind here. And you know, because you brought it up, right? They brought it up. They brought up the Bible, they brought up Christianity, you brought it up. And so we must inform you that what you're saying about Christian teaching and about Scripture is just incorrect. The Bible does, in fact, in both the Old and New Testament, in very explicit terms, lay out the homosexual act as a sin. In fact, any sexual act that happens outside of the bonds of marriage is a sin according to Christian sexual morality, Biblical sexual morality, and also, according to the Bible, marriage between a man and a woman. That's what it says. Now, if you're on the View or someone aligned with them, you could say, well, I don't care what the Bible says. All right, But. But you're the one who brought it up. Like, you just brought it up. So they try to do both. This is their game. And in that clip, you heard both. On one hand, no one cares what the Bible says. Don't use your religion. And then on the other hand, and by the way, I'll tell you what your religion says about this. And the game is that if you correct them on what your religion says, then they can revert back to the first talking point and says, why are you talking about religion? You brought it up. So they can make whatever claim they want about your religion. And if you correct them and say, well, actually, you're wrong. It's not what our religion teaches. As a member of my own religion, can I tell you. I mean, you're a bunch of atheist, secular, godless humanists. Can I tell you, as a member of that religion. No, no, I'll speak for you. They say it's totally absurd. More than 90% of Americans don't get enough fruits, vegetables and fiber in their diet. We're all basically walking nutritional disasters. And that's where Balance of Nature supplements comes in. These aren't your typical synthetic vitamins with names you can't pronounce. We're talking about 47 whole ingredients, 16 fruits, 15 vegetables, plus spices and fibers. Real stuff like wild blueberries, kale, turmeric, mushrooms. 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[Whoopi Goldberg]

It has been a little over a week since Elon Musk took over Twitter, and the place is. It's a mess. He's already called back some of the workforce he fired a few days, putting his $8 charge for blue check verification on hold. First it was gonna be $20, now it's gonna be $8. He also suspended Kathy Griffin for impersonating him on a parody account, which has started a free Kathy hashtag to Trent. I mean, I'm getting off. I'm getting off today because I just feel like, you know, it's so messy, and I'm tired of now having had certain kinds of attitudes blocked, and now they're back on, and I just. I'm gonna get out, and if it settles down and I feel more comfortable, maybe I'll come back. But as of tonight, I'm done with Twitter.

[Joe Walsh]

Of course, if you're like me, you hear that and you think, oh, you were on Twitter. I didn't even know that. Like, what are they? What do they. I just want to know if I get in their heads, which is not really a place I'd want to be. But how do you think people are going to react to this? Do you think people are. You're making some big, dramatic announcement. I'm done. You know, I might be back later, but I just. For now, I'm out of there. Which, by the way, when it comes to dramatic announcements, that's kind of an anticlimactic way to go about it. I'm done. I mean, I might come back later, but I'm done for now. I will not be on Twitter again until at least tomorrow. Morning, if not a little bit sooner. But at this moment, right now, I'm not gonna be. I am not using Twitter at this moment while I'm on tv. But what do they expect? Do they think that people are gonna. The people who think it's good that Elon Musk took over Twitter, are they gonna say, well, never mind. I mean, if this scares Whoopi Goldberg away, I can't imagine Twitter without Whoopi Goldberg. And then you also see, once again, just the total, absolute fragility of these people. She says, oh, all these people that were, they were. I was insulated for them from them. And now, and now their ideas are going to be. I'm going to maybe be exposed to some of their ideas and opinions and their words. And I can't. I can't deal with that. She also has some thoughts on the nature of free speech. I think this is in clip 6.

[Joy Behar]

Communications act, which basically allows this to happen. I think it's section 230. It allows, you know, protection of social media as platforms under the pre. Well, they just say that they're third party platforms. They're not the ones that are putting it out there.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Joy Behar]

And that can only change by legislation. And if the Republicans rule the Senate, though, it's a bit challenging because if you treat it like a publication, then that means they're liable for any crazy thing someone says, which.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

Well, it is complicated.

[Joy Behar]

There is a way to. There's a way to.

[Whoopi Goldberg]

They keep saying that it's free speech and some speech is not. All speech is not free speech. Some speech is not okay. Free speech. So everybody has to agree on that. But if people keep saying, well, you heard my free speech, it's going to be a problem. But you know what this is going to be. This is our problem. But ain't my problem today because I'm out.

[Joe Walsh]

Some speech is not okay. Free speech. That's it. So there's been this debate for centuries, really, about free speech. What is free speech? What counts as free speech? And is free speech absolute? And Whoopi Goldberg has, I guess, settled the debate entirely. She says that some speech is just not okay. And how do we know if it's not okay or not? I guess she'll tell us. Meanwhile, although this maybe has been a debate, I've never found the debate all that interesting because to me now, they're always around the margins. There are always going to be the harder kind of cases. But for the most part, you know, when you like 99.9% of all the speech that goes on, it's really easy to determine whether it counts as free speech or whether it ought to count as free speech or not. Okay? And the things that shouldn't count as free speech, generally speaking, if you're making direct, violent threats against someone, actual threats, and using a pronoun you don't like, that's not a threat. Disagreeing with you is not a threat. Saying something like, I'm going to come to your house and kill you, like saying the things that trans activists say to me almost every day, that's a threat. That's clearly a threat. So that's not free speech, at least it shouldn't be. Trying to explicitly encourage other people to cause harm to someone or to commit a crime, again, that clearly shouldn't count as free speech. Defamation, right, Slander, libel, any form of speech, written or spoken, where you're lying about someone in order to cause them harm, not free speech. And those are pretty much all the exceptions. You might be able to come up with a few here and there, but you know what the exceptions are when you see them. It's pretty rare when you come across an actual hard case of trying to determine, oh, does that qualify as free speech or not? Because again, I think 99.9% of it, we all know, and most of the speech that goes on on social media, people might be vulgar, they might be, you know, they might be cruel, they might be rude, but they're essentially just expressing their opinion. And if you're expressing your opinion, that's free speech. And that ought to be allowed on social media. It ought to be a lot on Twitter. If Twitter is saying, I mean, if Twitter is saying that they've got. If Elon Musk is saying is a commitment to free speech, if that's what he's saying, he wants to run his company, then that means that people should be able to simply just express their ideas and their opinions and that's it. And if you don't like what someone says, you can disagree with them, you can even block them. There's a lot of. You can choose not to read it. There are a lot of ways around it. But to me, it's not all that difficult. Let people speak, let them voice their opinions. That's it. That's all. Let's be honest. If you're a gun owner and you're still shooting unsuppressed, you're messing up, you've got a great gun, you've got decent aim, but you're still out there making your range days loud when they don't need to be. A suppressor from Silencer Shop fixes that. Less noise, less recoil. No more walking away from the range with your ears ringing. Silencer Shop takes your gun from good to greater than you ever imagined and makes it easy. Silencer Shop has the largest selection of suppressors in the country. Approvals are coming in at record speeds, and their expert team can help you with anything you need. No guesswork, no bureaucratic headaches, just better range days and hunting trips. And when it comes to the Second Amendment, Silencer Shop puts their money where their mouth is, supporting your rights more than just about anyone else. Go to silencershop.com Walsh today and start shooting smarter, quieter, and better. That's silencershop.com Walsh because if you're serious about freedom, you ought to shoot like it. Silencer Shop because your rights and your ears are worth protecting.