2026 RB Deep Dive: Love’s Comps, Our Favorite Prospects, and Finding RB2

Summary

The McShay Show – “2026 RB Deep Dive: Love’s Comps, Our Favorite Prospects, and Finding RB2”

Date: March 20, 2026
Host: Todd McShay (A)
Guest Analyst (B): Mitch
Producer: Tucker
Podcast by: The Ringer

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Episode Overview

In this detailed episode, Todd McShay and analyst Mitch conduct a comprehensive deep dive on the 2026 NFL Draft running back class. With just over a month left until the draft, they assess the class’s strengths and weaknesses, evaluate top prospects led by Notre Dame’s Jeremiah Love, debate the case for RB2 honors, and spotlight their favorite “pound the table” mid-tier backs. The conversation balances advanced analytics, scouting nuances, and big-picture positional value debates. Core themes include draft strategy regarding early RBs, the evolving RB archetypes, and predictions for this year’s selection trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The 2026 RB Draft Class: Landscape & Historical Context

[00:31] - [04:49]

• 26 running backs were drafted in 2025, a notably deep class.
• This year’s class is less deep, but features standout talents with highly specific roles.
• NFL team preferences, NIL, and transfer portal impacts are shifting talent distributions.

"When you have 26 running backs drafted last year ... it’s only natural that this year's a little bit of a dip.” – McShay [02:31]

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Jeremiah Love: The Clear-Cut RB1

[02:31] – [09:28]

• Notre Dame's Jeremiah Love is unequivocally the consensus top back.
• Elite blend of size (212lbs), speed (4.36 40), and explosion (rare 1.49 10-yd split).
• Compares favorably to Ashnton Genti (2025), though not quite in the Bijan Robinson/Saquon Barkley “generational” tier due to size.
• Loved for his well-rounded skillset: home-run hitting speed, improved pass protection, patience, three-down value.

"He's right up there with the elite backs that have come out recently.” – Mitch [05:45]

• Analytics: Hits key “predictive thresholds” for NFL RB success (quick 10-yd split, >15% explosive run rate).

“When you take the split and the explosive run rate ... Jeremiah Love is right there — that’s rare company.” – McShay [08:30]

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Draft Value Debate: How Early for an RB?

[09:28] – [16:56]

• Positional value conundrum: Running back salaries and early picks rarely align with Super Bowl success.
• Despite Love’s status as McShay’s top overall player in the draft ([14:36]), there is deep skepticism about spending a top-10 pick on an RB.

“It takes a trained monkey to figure out Jeremiah Love is the most talented back in this class... the question is, how high is too high?” – McShay [09:28]

“I don’t think you can take him top 10 if you’re looking at it from a business standpoint.” – Mitch [14:44]

• Historical Reference: Bijan, Saquon, Fournette, Zeke — all went top 10; none delivered championships to drafting team ([15:04]).
• Emphasis on two-back backfields: “Even the great backs have a guy.”

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Team Fits and Scenarios For Jeremiah Love

[16:56] – [24:35]

• Tennessee (picking 4) and Washington (7) are possible landing spots.
• Tennessee has upgraded OL and could justify adding a premier RB to help a young QB.
• Debate: Does team context and need override positional value risk?
• Watch for possible trade-ups (especially by the Rams or Vikings) if Love slides past top 5.

"If you’ve got a young quarterback and you’re sitting at four, is that enough to push it through?” – McShay [18:10]

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Debating RB2: Jadarian Price vs Mike Washington

[27:05] – [36:53]

• Heated discussion over the second-best RB: Price (Notre Dame) or Washington (Washington).
• Price: Shifty, fast on tape, two return TDs, little pass game work, questionable “verticality.”
  • Ran 4.49; tested as just “good,” not elite.
  • Lacked wear-and-tear, but also limited production.
• Washington: Massive breakout after several average years, rare size/speed (233 lbs, 4.33), but passing game and vision not elite.

“Not a lot of wear and tear…pass blocking a big step…not a guy exploding upfield…” – Mitch on Price [29:48] “Mike Washington’s testing was through the roof… that combo produces thousand yard rushers in the NFL.” – McShay [31:57]

• Consensus: Both have holes; neither worthy of a 2nd-round pick. Love should be only 1st/2nd-round RB ([29:49]).
• Price's rapid jump in rankings/campaigns seems odd given modest production.

“Does it feel kind of weird to you that there’s this much love for Jadarian Price?” – McShay [34:14]

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RB3 and the Rest: Jonah Coleman vs Emmett Johnson

[36:53] – [41:00]

• Emmett Johnson (Nebraska): 3-down skillset, reliable, slightly disappointing 4.56 40, “no single elite trait.”
• Jonah Coleman: Stocky build, low center of gravity, explosive, draws Maurice Jones-Drew comparisons.

“Jonah Coleman ... is like Maurice Jones-Drew with that stocky build.” – Mitch [39:06] “I trust Coleman and what he’s going to be in the league—an early-down feature runner.” – McShay [40:59]

• Both are most likely Day 3 picks with serious rotational/committee upside.

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The Mid/Late-Round "Pound the Table" RBs

[41:00] – [49:09] Top-10 ranked RBs beyond Love, Price, Washington, Coleman, Johnson:

• Nick Singleton (Penn State): Explosive, but faded and inconsistent.
• Kaytron Allen (Penn State): Durable, instinctive, trusted, does the “dirty work.”
• Adam Randall (Clemson): Former WR, huge body/athletic traits, minimal production.
• Le’Veon Moss (Texas A&M): Most talented runner among mid-round group, durability issues.
• Demon Claiborne (Wake Forest): Explosive big-play threat, likely role as a 10–15 touch committee back.

Analyst “Pound the Table” Picks:

• Mitch: Demon Claiborne ([43:59])

  "He is an explosive cat ... you give him 10 to 15 touches a game and he can make a difference for you."

• McShay: Kaytron Allen ([46:30])

  “Kaytron Allen—runs low to the ground, powerful, contact balance for days, most importantly, that sucker’s got instincts.”

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Deep Sleepers & "Don't Be Surprised If..."

[49:09] – [52:40]

• McShay: "Don’t be surprised if Jeremiah Love’s sitting at 7 and a team like the Rams or Vikings moves up to get him."
  • Love is seen as the best player in the draft by many, even if running back is devalued.
• Mitch: "Don’t be surprised if Kentucky RB Seth McGowan (once dismissed from Oklahoma, now reborn) becomes one of the top three backs in this class."
  • Massive off-field baggage, but rare size/explosion (6’0, 223, 4.49, 42.5” vert).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On RB Value:

  • “Historically, it’s the wrong move and we all fall in love with the player ... but also, I think the teams that have success ... really need two backs.” — Mitch [15:48], [16:56]

• On Jeremiah Love:

  • "He’s right up there with the elite backs that have come out recently." — Mitch [05:45]
  • “He is as good as it gets ... but it’s really hard to justify taking a running back in the top-10 picks.” — Mitch [15:48]
  • “He’s the number one player in this draft. It’s not universal, but it’s pretty damn close.” — McShay [49:03]

• On Kaytron Allen:

  • “Give me a durable, downhill, sized back ... I love Kaytron Allen. Teams that draft him, he's going to be that guy.” — McShay [46:30]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 00:31 – 04:49: State of the 2026 RB class & last year’s draft review
• 04:49 – 09:28: Jeremiah Love scouting and analytics breakdown
• 09:28 – 16:56: Running back value debate & top-10 pick controversy
• 16:56 – 24:35: Team fits & hypotheticals: Tennessee, Washington, Rams, trade-ups
• 27:05 – 36:53: RB2 debate: Jadarian Price vs. Mike Washington
• 36:53 – 41:00: Coleman vs. Johnson for RB4 & mid-round options
• 41:00 – 49:09: Top 10 expanded, “pound-the-table” prospects, and overlooked gems
• 49:09 – 52:40: Bold predictions (“Don't Be Surprised If...”) and deep sleeper picks

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Summary Table: Top-10 (Per McShay Rankings in Show)

| Rank | Player | School | Notes | |------|---------------------|-----------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 1 | Jeremiah Love | Notre Dame | Do-it-all, top prospect, elite measurable & tape | | 2 | Jadarian Price | Notre Dame | Speed, return value, under-tested receiver | | 3 | Mike Washington | Washington | Rare size/speed, breakout, modest pass game | | 4 | Jonah Coleman | Washington | Stocky build, balance, low center of gravity | | 5 | Emmett Johnson | Nebraska | Solid 3-down, no wow trait, reliable | | 6 | Nick Singleton | Penn State | Explosive, lacked 2026 production | | 7 | Kaytron Allen | Penn State | Power, contact, instincts, overlooked | | 8 | Adam Randall | Clemson | Huge, former WR, projection pick | | 9 | Le’Veon Moss | Texas A&M | Talented, some durability concerns | | 10 | Demon Claiborne | Wake Forest | Speed, big play, best as role player |

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Tone & Final Thoughts

McShay maintains his blend of data-driven, front-office realism and fan-level RB appreciation, balanced by Mitch’s nuanced, sometimes skeptical, approach. Both caution against over-drafting RBs but highlight hidden values in the class. The episode offers deep scouting analysis, historic context, and actionable GM discussion, making it invaluable for draft fans and NFL team-builders alike.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Love and the rest of the field and we're going to talk about both. Today is running back deep dive day on the McShay show and there's just 34 days until the NFL draft. You good Mitch?

[B]

I'm good man.

[A]

Roll my favorite beat T. Interesting right? 26 guys drafted last year. 26 it was 17 in the first five rounds and then even late you had Crosby Merritt was the last running back drafted and he the production he has with with Washington this year even like La Quint Allen was like seventh round. He does some things Montague right. From from Rutgers.

[B]

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of a dip. Now what's interesting is you have a generational talent and I want to get to Jeremiah Love off the top. But I also want to mention that it's not just Jeremiah Love. There's a lot of good backs and I think in different roles and some guys are going to be between the tackles as we would call like early down back. Some guys are going to be a change of pace but there's a lot and throw up the graphic top 10 running backs and we can get into a long discussion here but Jeremiah Love is obviously number one. I want to kind of contextualize that as we go and his his running back mate at Notre Dame, Jadarian Price. I've got it. Number two, we'll have a discussion. Is it is it Price or is it Mike Washington as RB2 in this class, Jonah Coleman from from Excuse me, Washington. Emmett Johnson from Nebraska. And then you get the two Penn State backs in my six through 10. Or Nick Singleton, who quite honestly, like, just kind of disappeared this year, didn't stand out at the Senior Bowl. But my gosh, he's explosive. Katron Allen, more instinctive pounder between the tackles. And then you get Adam Randall, sandwich in between. He's my guy. You know, that mensch. Le'veon Moss of durability issues, but so talented as a runner. Damon Claiborne. And then the list goes on. Seth McGowan from Kentucky, awesome combine, productive this last year. Eli Hiden Reich from. From Navy. Roman Hemby and Kaylin Black from Indiana. Jam Miller from Alabama. There's a lot of. There's a lot of talented backs, but it's not nearly the class it was a year ago. But it starts with Jeremiah Love. And this is where I want to bring you in. Menchie boy. Give me some perspective on him. Where are you with. With Jeremiah Love? Where would you. Because I've kind of re. I've recalibrated. I would actually take him over Ashton Genti from a year ago, but I'm not putting him up. I can't give him a grade as high as Bijan Robinson. Okay. Or Saquon Barkley. But I think he's right there in the conversation of the best backs that have entered the NFL in the last decade. Absolutely. And you don't have to go long in that list to get to Jeremiah Love. We might be third, fourth on third or fourth on that list. Where are you on Love?

[B]

As high as you can go? Pretty much. And I. I hear you. I think the only reason you wouldn't put him in that same category as Saquan and Bejon, which is rare air both. I mean, outstanding backs coming out is he's 212 and not 220. 225 pounds. I think that's the only. Only reason. That said, 212 is pretty good. 212 is pretty good. And when you watch him, I think the. His biggest weakness coming into the year was pass prot. He got substantially better. On top of that, you add. It's the speed. Right. He backed it up with the 436 at the combine. He is as explosive as that time would suggest on tape. He's a threat to go every time he touches the ball. There's that explosive finishing power, too. That, that, that shows up in that explosiveness as well. Catches the ball well out of the backfield. I think he's got good patience I think he's got good vision. I, when I watched, when I went back and watched him again after, because I did a report on him last year, I just, it's hard not to love his tape. Like it's just it, he is, he's right up there with the elite backs that have come out recently.

[A]

The explosion part is fascinating to me because how do you quantify it? And there you see, like I, I can't be more excited about what's happening. You see that 94 grade? That's our scouting report. That's what's going to be on our new website on Monday. We'll have more details for you on Monday's show. We will blast it out on social media. I'm sure the ringer and Spotify will get behind the campaign. This is what you're going to see for all of our draft prospects and our scouting reports with this position specific grade spider chart, the combine results. You can click down, you can grab it on your phone, you can do it on your iPad, on your desktop, whatever you want. But there you see Jeremiah loves scouting report. Without expanding anything. It's interesting in the day and age we live in, right? Because I can, I, I can remember and when I say remember, I mean just a few years ago like trying to quantify all these numbers, like okay, he had this vertical jump, he had this 10 yard split, he had this 40. Here are his stats. And there was no perfect way. And there's never going to be a perfect way. But with what we have in advanced scouting and, and the, as I'm talking to general managers and think back to some of our GM conversations and how analytics plays a role sometimes, like the Cleveland Browns, it plays a massive role. We talked about, we, we talked to some people who were like, we've, we've incorporated it more, you know, and I think most franchises, most organizations have kind of met in the middle with it. And I'm saying all this because there's predictive thresholds with a lot of these positions in certain numbers. A very intriguing one to me for running back is this predictive threshold that NFL teams are looking for of a 1 5, 5 split or faster, the 10 yard split and 15% explosive run rate. And you say, well, what's predictive about it? Well, 62% that cleared that threshold go on to be multi year starters in the NFL. It's pretty good and it's really good when you get into buckets right in the second, third, fourth, fifth round. But then there's the like, what's what's the elite of the elite with that group? Well the elite of the elite with that group. When you take the split and the, and the the err. The explosive run rate. Chris Johnson with a one. He is in the one fours with a 21er. Jir Gibbs 150 explosives. Jonathan Taylor 1.51 18 explosives. Those are the top three in that category. When you combine those that threshold, you know who's in there with that top four in the top four is one of those four. Jeremiah Love, right? 1:49 10 yard split and 20 plus explosive. That's rare company. So like explosive on tape. Explosive testing explosive production. That's that to me. Not. Not when you're done with this tape do you need. But it's. It helps to kind of qualify quantify like well where's he with? And those guys are, you know talk about explosive backs in the league throughout their respective careers. I also love his receiving ability because here's what it boils down to. Let's be honest.

[B]

It.

[A]

It takes a trained monkey to figure out Jeremiah Love is the most talented back in this class. What goes beyond a trained monkey, two guys who are getting paid millions of dollars to make this decision is how high is too high. And what factors into that is as a running back you look at, at the. Their second. I told you second on the list. I've got this, this position value chart and, and that number will change. But coming into this year's free agency, the average top five annual salaries basically running back was second lowest on that list. Quarterback's the highest 56 million. Then edge rusher 42, wide receiver 34 million, cornerback 28 million. Then you all the way down to running back and it was 16-57878. Second high is just just a little bit more than a few million more than centers. So you say okay, now I got to pay a running back around $50 million if he's a top five pick in his rookie contract, right. And it's like 30 something guaranteed. Like you know and so you do the annual salary for that and it's like am I better off getting a proven commodity? And we saw teams like the Chiefs who are picking at nine and the Saints picking at eight go out and Kenneth Walker Jr. The second and then and and E Chan. Sorry. Now all of a sudden we have two a chance in the league that they're same human beings. Actually three because his brother Travis and Trevor three H hands in the league. And we didn't have an HN before we had an A chain and two ETNs wild. Anyway.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they went and they filled that void. Now on one end, on one hand you're like, well, they didn't think he was going to get to 8 or 9. On the other hand you're like, well, maybe they just wanted a proven, a proven guy. Wherever you stand on that argument, I guess the question is like really the biggest question is with this running back

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class,

[A]

two of them. The second one is how do you rank the next four guys that all could be starters in the league and, and what separates them for you? But the first and most important one is, is 4 too high? Because I love the pass catching ability and that's what started me in this whole rant is you better be able to separate and you better be more than just I'm handing the ball off to you if I'm going to pay you that kind of money. Where teams love to draft quarterbacks, offensive tackles, edge rushers and really that's kind of it. They'll draft a receiver. You just saw the, the apy. The top five average for those positions that wide receivers, third on that list, cornerbacks, fourth tackle is actually down fifth and sixth left and right. But typically it's quarterbacks, offensive tackles and edge rushers. So why, what justify like, are you cool with it with Tennessee taking them at 4 or are we gonna see a slide down to 7 to Washington or because he's a running back, is he going to slide more? Because the Raiders had no problem taking Genti even when they weren't ready for him at number three last year. Six. But yeah, oh, six. Sorry.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

I, this, I, this is the evolution of this conversation for me is that I, I looked at the Genti situation. I said, you can't do it. I love Dash and Genti coming out of Boise State. I like, I like Jeremiah, I love even more, but I love Genti coming out. And then I went from that to saying, well, you can't do it because he didn't have a great year and the Raiders weren't able to support him. And then I was like, well, you know what? Maybe it's not a bad pick because maybe in year two, who'll be the player that they want now that they have a quarterback and all of that stuff. And it's like, well, maybe it's not

[A]

a bad and an offensive line they're investing in.

[B]

Right? But, but the problem is the, and this is where I am now. So I've gone back and forth, back and forth. And here's where I am now. It's how you're using your resources and it's that cap number to me. And let's say that Ashton Genti has an amazing second year and you're saying to yourself, what am I gonna have to pay this guy in two or three years? Is he gonna hold out at the end of year four? And we have like a Jonathan Taylor situation with the Colts. And I look at all these really talented backs that I love coming out and the guys that have gotten drafted early, correct me if I'm wrong, I can't think of one that's won a Super bowl with a team that drafted them. Philadelphia. So, like, you're looking at all this, you're looking at the money you're gonna have to spend not only in the rookie contract. I want to keep that in mind. Like, if this guy's really good in fight, like, what are you going to do? You're going to draft another one early? I don't know. Like, there's the allocation of resources, what concerns me. So I love Jeremiah and I want to see. I think he deserves. You have him as the top overall player on. In this class, right?

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, I do too.

[A]

Overall player in the entire class. I've never had a running. Even Saquon. I've never had a running back. Number one overall.

[B]

I don't think you can take him top 10 if you're looking at it from a business standpoint,

[A]

and that's interesting. And to further your point here, I'm just pulling up like Genti, obviously, I'm going back. Bijan Robinson was the eighth pick to the Falcons.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

He's awesome.

[B]

He's. He's been every bit as good as

[A]

they wanted him to be, quite honestly, maybe even a little bit better. Yeah, he's been phenomenal. I'm just scrolling. Saquon Barkley was the number two pick in 2018. Leonard Fournette was the fourth pick. Christian McCaffrey in 2017. It was the eighth pick to Carolina and went to San Francisco. Zeke Elliott, fourth pick in 2016. They didn't win a Super bowl with him. Todd Gurley was the 10th pick with the Rams. Didn't win a Super bowl with him. Yeah, because you're. Go ahead.

[B]

Historically, this, it's. It's the wrong move and we all fall in love with the player. And, And I like he. It's. He's as good as it gets. He as. As good as he get as it gets on tape. But also I think the teams that have success when you look at this. And I know that Kenneth Walker the second really carried Seattle to the super bowl. But they had Zach Charbonnet for a lot of that run and have like I think you really need two backs. I mean even the, the Patriots with Ramondi Stevenson and Travion Henderson and if you start looking at it as you know even Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery for Detroit, I know Montgomery's gone now. If you start looking at it, you want to have two backs now what do we now what are we investing in the running back position? Now it's even more and I don't know man. I don't know. It's just. I don't want to look at it this way. I am such a. I like to be just a fan of football sometimes just a fan of a player and be like let's have fun. And he deserves to go early because of his production and his tape and all of that. But it's a businessman and when you look at it from a business standpoint, it's really hard to justify taking a running back in the top 10 picks.

[A]

Yeah and I'm looking at Tennessee, right. Picking a four and they brought in Austin Schlotman. It's a one year deal is he probably is going to start center for the Titans. Right. Could get competition from. From Jackson Slater who was their second round pick I think a year ago they brought in like Cordell Volson and another and Austin Deculas just depth. They spent a lot on the offensive line last off season if I'm not mistaken. They obviously brought in Wanda Robinson at receiver gives another weapon Daniel Bellinger who's not a huge receiving threat but he's got experience with Brian Dable and he's a good blocker.

[B]

He's a good player, man.

[A]

Oh, he's a really good player. No, I'm not downplaying it. I been but he'll pair up with Gunner Helm who was their fourth round pick I think a year ago. Right. So I'm only mentioning this and I'm not mentioning any of the defensive additions that they made which were significant because is. Is Tennessee in a much better position? I think so than the Raiders were last year plugging in Ashton Jinty. Right?

[B]

Yep. Yeah. 100%.

[A]

Would you say that here's the X factor because I. Because I know Brian pretty well. He's not gonna mince words or be shy about pounding a table for a guy that he envisions and what he's trying to do.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you've seen clips from hard Knocks. And I've had very in depth, long conversations with Brian. Like there have been certain guys over the years. There were certain guys over the years as the head coach of the Giants that he pushed hard for and he got some and he didn't get some and he got two that he really wanted last year. His two picks last year were the quarterback and the running back. Dart and Scatterboo. And now it's one thing to push for a running back in the fourth round, right? It's another. And, and even the quarterback that he got, it required trading back up because they weren't going to take him over. They weren't, you know, they certainly weren't going to take him at, at 3 overall. Right. Where they took Abdul Carter. Excuse me. So armed with all that information and armed with the fact that you've got a young quarterback and you don't have. You've got Cam Ward and you're sitting there, pick number four. And is it Carnell Tate? Is it, is it a defensive player after you spent all this money on defense and free agency and you brought in two coaches, a head coach and a defensive coordinator that are like awesome. Is that enough to push it through? And we talked to Mike Borgonzi. Absolutely love the guy. He's a masshole like us. He's terrible in terms of the food choices for the, for the, for his spread for draft weekend. But other than that, there's, there's everything to like about poor Gu. He comes kind of the Chiefs and, and remember Andy's big on offensive line and defensive line and all that stuff. But the Chiefs kind of very. They veered from that with, with Brett Veach and so I don't know. There's. I'm just, I'm painting this picture for our audience because you and I agree and history stamps it. It's not the best business decision for a franchise to take a running back in the top 10. It's proven. But all these other factors come into play with a second year quarterback who needs a weapon, who could hand the ball off to someone special. You spent some money on offensive line last year. You got more depth this year. You're not gonna. If you don't draft a weapon there. Maybe there's plenty of depth that we just talked about on, on Wednesday, right? The depth of the wide receiver group is phenomenal. You can get one in the second, third round who could be an impact player. I, I don't know. I'm torn on it. I'm torn on it. Where would you go if You're Tennessee. If not

[B]

a number of different directions. I like, I wanted to look back at this like they have Tony Pollard as their running back and you can look at that and be like, jeremiah Love is an upgrade. I understand that Tony's been a thou. He's been a thousand yard rusher since his third year in the league. Every year he rushes for a thousand yards and it's not much over a thousand yards, I'll tell you that. But he rushes for a thousand yards every year. Like, I don't think people realize how good Tony Pollard, how productive he is. Again, I agree with you and I, I think that that is a fair word to use. I think Jeremiah Love is a massive, massive upgrade.

[A]

But we're talking about from a production standard standpoint, like an EPA. Yeah. What are you gonna get? 1400.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, and, and I don't know, three, 400 receiving yard, whatever it is. No, I hear you.

[B]

I, and I get it, I get it. Because his tape is so freaking good

[A]

and his talent is through the roof.

[B]

I understand. And if you're asking me, where are they gonna go? I don't know. I don't know. I would take one of those edges if they're, if one of those edges is there.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I would consider wide receiver. I know they just got the Calvin Ridley done deal redone, so they restructured him a little bit and they've got a ton of bodies there, but one of them. I would consider that. It's tough, especially in this class. It would be a lot easier if I could say to you, well, there's a stud offensive tackle that's going to be there at 4 or there's going to be an absolute stud edge who's going to be there at 4. Like, it would be easier to say it, but the, the actual logistics of this draft and the way that it's set up and the way that we've talked about where it's these non premium position players that are at the top of the board. Well, you know, so what are we gonna do, man? You're gonna take a guard? Are we gonna take a safety? It's tough. I get it. But it scares me. It scares me. And I don't. I, I think that I would try to go in a different direction, to be honest with you.

[A]

Yeah. And I guess a lot of the same things can be said for Washington at seven. Right. And if it's not one of those organizations, like there's been talk about the Giants as a possibility. I wouldn't completely rule it out but I, I don't think that's the direction they're going to go at five. Cleveland sure as hell isn't going running back at six. Washington's a possibility at seven. I think Washington I mentioned is a team that is everyone would like to move back. Just about everyone would like to move back but they, they're extra motivated and could take a an average but not elite deal to move back off that seven spot. They don't have a second round pick. They pick seven and 77. So keep an eye on that. But eight, they just spent big money on on Achan nine. The Saints, that is nine. Chiefs just spent big money on Kenneth Walker. So that now you're talking. You know where from there, right?

[B]

Yeah. So someone will take him.

[A]

And by the way Bengals are, Bengals obviously aren't going running back. They're going defense at 10. And then Miami you get to Miami and Dallas like it. It's, it's fascinating because I don't and in the Rams at 13, maybe the Rams at 13, maybe the Rams are the team that trade up to 7. To be quite honest with you, they are all in chips. All in. It may be one more year with Stafford and McVeigh all in. Let's go win a Super Bowl. Yeah, that would be something to keep an eye on. To be honest with you,

[B]

with Borgonzi, if, if I'm Bergonzi and and Dable walks into my office and starts trying to it it would be really hard to stick to your guns. I mean that's the reality of it. This, this is relation. This is about human relationships and about making those kind of decisions and you can put all the historical perspective you want on it. But the kid's tape is so good, his naturability is so good and your offense corner really wants him and has a plan for him. You start to talk to your you talk yourself into why this is different and I'm a human being too and I could see myself falling falling into that trap as well. And maybe, maybe this is the maybe Jeremiah loves different and you could start to talk yourself into it. But when you get the 30,000 foot view of the situation and you start to look at it in a different way, it's scary.

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All right, let's get to the rest of the running back class. Throw up that top 10 again, Tucker. Here's how I view it and I'm curious to get your, your take. And then I want to kind of talk through. I kind of see it as a conversation about is it Jadarian Price or Mike Washington as RB2 in this class? And then I kind of see it as, is it Jonah Coleman or Emmett Johnson as RB4 in this class? How do you see it mentioned?

[B]

I would go with Mike Washington over Jadarian Price because I just, you know,

[A]

we're on islands and that in terms of like even, even entertain it and the fact that you would, I understand, go there and I'm not, I'm not done yet. I'm still working through it. Yeah, on islands I even saw like our boy DJ Daniel Jeremiah. I was standing outside yesterday. I saw that he sent out that his new mock draft 3.0 is out. And. And so I actually got it through somebody else and it said Jadarian Price is, you know, made it in. I think he was picked 32 to Seattle.

[B]

Don't see it. And I'll, I'll talk about, tell people why you know what, let's just get into that then. I think he is actually more explosive on tape than he tested. He ran a 44940 at the combine, which is a very good time. But a 161 split. Not elite. 40 time, not elite. When you watch him on tape, he is a speedback. I don't know if anyone. Do you know, if anyone provides this in terms of analytics, Todd, where they provide yards gain for a back versus yards actually ran. And what I mean by that is how vertical is this runner? How quickly do they get north, south or are they running 20 yards to gain 10 yards? You know what I'm saying? Engineering Price isn't. He's not awful in this area. I want to be. I want to be specific. But almost everything is at an angle. He is trying to run away from everything and he's fast on tape. But he didn't run as well as I thought at the combine. He had two kickoff returns for touchdowns this year. I watched both of them. He breaks a tackle and he pulls away and you know, not, I mean, good plays. I think you're going to use them in the return game. But I wasn't. This was not a guy that was just exploding up field and like, oh my goodness, how fast is this guy? So to me, you're looking at a speedback. Then you look at the lack of. And you can look at this two ways. I mean, there's a real lack of wear and tear. But he's been behind love his entire career. He hasn't played any kind of a role in the passing game really. I think he can. I think he can get there. Pass blocking is going to be a big step for him. I think he can be a weapon in the pass game, but he hasn't been yet. So it's not like you could just bank on that.

[A]

I.

[B]

There are a lot of questions when it comes to Jerry Price. I think he's one of the top three backs in this. In this class, but I don't think there should be a back that goes in the second round of this year's draft. I think it should be Jeremiah Live early. And it wouldn't be surprising me that the second back didn't come off until the third round. So that's kind of how I feel about it.

[A]

The Price's run style is. Is unique. I kind of like it if I'm going to be honest with you. And I better kind of like it if I'm. If I'm saying he could be a second round Pick. He's got this like, is. And I don't know if it's kind of what you're referring to. Like his, his legs are turning fast, you know, what did they say? Like the duck under the water. They look so, you know, they're turning fast and he's got this forward lean about him. And the thing I will give Jadarian Price a lot of credit for is he, he reaches boil in a, in a flash. And by that I mean like he'll run into contact, break contact, and then all of a sudden it's like you didn't slow him down. You know, he's like, he's like the, I don't say energizer, but it's like whatever. He runs into it and then just like, right, he's right back to top speed, you know, like it's, it's, it's kind of interesting. It's different than a lot of backs I've watched on tape. And I, and I say all those things as positives, right? The thing with Washington is you've got these three or four years of not good level production and then Washington comes out this year, Mike Washington, and just explodes, right? And he has an explosive run rate of 17%. As I talked about earlier, the explosive run rate combined with the split, he's, he's like not far off that, that list I was talking about with Chris Johnson, Jameer Gibbs, historically, that combination that he provided at the combine and with explosive runs in 20, 25 produces thousand yard NFL rushes in the NFL. You can't argue with me on that. Like, it's not a, it's not something I'm seeing on tape that I'm saying I'm convinced and that's a fact. That combo produces thousand yards rush rushers in the NFL. Now what I am seeing on tape with him because his testing was through the freaking roof, man. Absolutely insane. He's a 233 pound back, ran a four three three, had a 151 split.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

I said seven, it's 17. Explosive rate is what he had. Okay. And so the only real question though, the two things I see with him are the passing game. Not, not advanced, not a huge part of the passing game, his usage. And then I think his vision is a little bit. Yeah, not bad. But like, the more I dug into his tape, I think there's some run where he's like accelerating into, not sensing, not feeling like the elite backs, right? So those are the two questions with him. But then you, you Go to. You go to. I mean, whether it's ball security, whether it's passing game with Jadarian Price and. And I love the fact that he's got a lot of tread left on the tires, but how proven is he and the explosive numbers? Like, listen, he. Outside zone. Jadarian Price is really, really good. Yes. I agree with what you saw on tape. Like, he bounces stuff to the outside. Is he fast enough to do that in the league? I don't think so. At the same level. So there's going to be an adjustment there. He's got big playability, but he doesn't have the rare size, speed combination, the elite explosive traits that Mike Washington has.

[B]

Price was listed at 210 at Notre Dame and weighed in at 203. He's not a very big back.

[A]

No.

[B]

Had six catches last year. I don't. I like him. I think it's appropriate how much I like him. I. I can see some.

[A]

Is it kind of weird? Let's just be like, let's. Let's just have an honest conversation that you and I would have driving back from practice this one day or sitting in the hotel room with room services where I. Watching tape, and I would turn to you and I would be like, yo, Mench, does it feel kind of weird to you? This is like. This is. Honestly, this is what we were talking about. Does it feel kind of weird to you that there's like this much love for Jadarian Price?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And again, if he'd run, this is, you know, this is some of the.

[A]

Is it warranted?

[B]

There's stuff to like about the player, and I think he's in the conversation to be the second running back in this class. I do not think that this is a. It's a lot of. Some other positions in this class are similar in that it's a deeper than it is deeper class than it is with the elite talent up front outside of Jimmer. I love. So you're looking at it that way. We wouldn't even be. We wouldn't. Price wouldn't be in the conversation last year in terms the way he is now. Like, it just with those backs. He wouldn't. It just wouldn't be a thing. It is weird to me that people

[A]

love fifth or sixth on that running. I mean. Right.

[B]

We're. We're talking. Yeah. Without.

[A]

It's not as genti. It's not Omarion Hampton. It's not Quinshon Judkins.

[B]

It's not henderson.

[A]

Yep. I. R.J. harvey came off the board a lot earlier than even we expected. And we loved RJ Harvey. I'd take RJ Harvey over him.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Caleb Johnson was is where the conversation would start. But I had Scatter Boo as the six running back and feel pretty good about that now I actually it's gotta be the fifth running back behind Judkins and Henderson and then RJ Harvey six. So. So seven for my rankings last year. Six from like where the running backs came off the board would be the conversation where Jadarian Price comes into the picture. And that's third round range because. Yes, because Caleb Johnson, the six running back taken last year was it pick 83 overall in the third round. I do want to say this because people who are gonna who are watching and listening to the show and we appreciate everyone on Netflix love what's going on with Netflix and all the support we're getting there. Obviously love Spotify and the relationship and partnership we've had with them. And also Apple has been wonderful for us as well. And anywhere else you get your podcast, we appreciate it. But what I'm. I like. I want people who are listening and watching to know I actually like him more than you do. I think his run style works in the league. I think as an outside zone runner with his contact balance, with his kind of shiftiness. He, he runs, he breaks more tackles and bounces off more tackles than a 203 pound back typically does. He's got juice in his game. There's just enough. While I love all those things and I like them more than you do, I still would feel really good about him at like pick 63. 72. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even higher than Caleb Johnson a year ago. He's a better, he's a better zone runner than Caleb Johnson. That was Caleb Johnson's thing.

[B]

Nitpicking.

[A]

But he's. Because he's a second, he's a second early third. He's not a late first, early second I think is that that's what's throwing us off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And DJ. DJs as good as there is in this business. I promise you he's not putting him up there just for fun. I will say this and I've said this dj, I think your guy Mel had him in one of his higher, higher running back. DJ tends to. To lean higher on running backs than than I. Than we do. But anyway there's, there's reason why not dissimilar to. To you and I when I put something in the mock draft or I or adjust my rankings and something's noticeable. There's a reason behind it. I don't do it because I just woke up one day and say how can I up this mock draft? You know, so, so. But yeah, I guess that's, that's the question. And so things to like about the player. Like there's one guy who had one year of unbelievable production after not producing for a long time who's 233 pounds, who ran a 4, 3 3, who's a 1.51 10 split and has unbelievable like historically good. It's guaranteed. Basically not guaranteed but it is like it's 62% become multi year starters that have that combination that Washington has in the SEC and in the sec all of those things. But it's a one year not great in the passing game. And the vision is, is not where it should be. And then you got Price. So that's the combination. That's the, the conversation going on with that second running back who we think should be late second, early third. Then there's this next conversation that I want to get to Jonah Coleman. Right. Jonah Coleman versus Emmett Johnson. Where are you on that?

[B]

I liked Emmett Johnson's tape but I didn't love it. I thought he for. I mean here, let's just get into it. The reason that I, I am not as high on him as I once was was the. And I'm, I'm sorry but it matters. The combine workout was disappointing for me. The, the tenured split 159 is, is, you know, better than the 40 and that's better than Jadarin Price ran by the way. But when he ran a 4, 5, 6, I was surprised by that. I thought he was going to be a. And then you look at him and he's not. He's 5 10, 2, 02 again that like in between size. He's not small, but he's not big. There's nothing overly flashy about EMT Johnson's game. Whereas Jonah Coleman is like Maurice Jones drew with that stocky build. And I think when you look at that low center of gravity and that size, it's not only his ability to run over players at times, but it's also his ability to make shifty cuts because of that low center of gravity. And I think I've gone back and forth on this all year and probably for most of the year had Emma Johnson ahead of Jonah Coleman. But right now I like Coleman better than Johnson.

[A]

I do too. And it's, it's reflected in my rankings. Yeah, Emma Johnson like he Actually brings a good like three down projection. He's got production durability, past game value and there are teams that, that value that, that archetype pretty highly and so it won't surprise me if he's the, the fourth back taken or maybe even the third. Like who knows. But Jonah Coleman, I don't know. I like just excellent contact balance interior runner. He I love his like you said, runs low to the ground. I, I, I wish we had numbers on him and I think his, it was interesting because I think there's kind, there's ups and downs over. Like we've, I feel like we've been evaluating the potential of Jonah Coleman coming in the league for three years now.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So I've seen peaks and I've seen valleys and part of it's due to scheme changes and offensive line play and all of that. I just, I trust Coleman in what he's going to be in the league and I think it's kind of an early down feature. Runner, you know I really do and I think there's a compete level about him that's pretty special. But I don't think there's a huge separator between those two guys. I, I do want to do this and I think those guys honestly, you want to know because, because if I read you this list again, here's what I think with the running back class. I think if last year were 26 guys drafted. Think about all the third round grades we had for some of these guys, right. Caleb Johnson was the last of the running backs to go after Ginty Hampton, Judkins, Henderson, Harvey and Johnson were the six to go in the first three rounds. Then you had Bishul Tutin who I wasn't quite as high on to be honest with you. I really, I had Scatterboo a lot higher. I had ETN Trevor ETN higher. I had Woody Marks higher. I had Dylan Sampson higher. Jordan James. But all those guys went in the fourth, fifth round. Beyond that DJ Giddens we both liked a lot. Devin Neal from Kansas going to the Saints in the sixth round. Khalil Mullings, the former linebacker. Then we talked, I talked about before Kyle Colin, Kyle Monagai and went in the seventh round to the, to the Bears from Rutgers LA Quint Allen went to the Jaguars seventh round, 236 overall. Jacori Cross, Crosky Meritt goes like Mr. Irrelevant for the running backs pick. 245 seventh round out of Arizona goes to the Commanders and had that rookie year. I think this year the Drop off is after those three we just mentioned. Mentioned. I don't see why a fourth running back would go in the third round if those names like Cam, Scaboo, ETN Marks, Samson, you know, like all those guys went on day three. So with that as a caveat, and we throw up the the top 10 running backs again. And it goes beyond just the top 10 too. You can go anywhere you want. Just like we did with wide receivers. I want your pound the table guy for where they're gonna get drafted. And as you see here, if you're watching on Netflix or Spotify, you've got beyond those top five, it's Nick Singleton and Katron Allen from Penn state. Sandwich number seven, Adam Randall from Clemson, Le'Veon Moss, number nine from Texas a and M. Demon Claiborne is at number 10. And I mentioned some of the other backs. Heidenreich was one of them. From Navy, Seth McGowan with the unbelievable workout at the combine. From Kentucky, Roman Hemby and Kaylin Black, both from Indiana, Jam Miller, explosive back from Michigan. Then, then Alabama. All those backs or anyone else you want to point for, point to where you're gonna get them. Who's the guy that just has your eye?

[B]

Dean Claiborne from Wake Forest. Because I think where you're going to get him, you're gonna use him the appropriate way. He is 5 foot 10, 188 pounds. He is not a guy that you want to give 20 to 25 touches a game, but you can give him 10 to 15 and he can turn that into meaningful production because he runs a 4, 3 7, and you see that 4, 3, 7 on tape, he is an explosive cat. He'll. This is crazy to me at that speed. He averaged 5 yards per catch last year. I cannot believe that he averaged 5 yards per catch. I think he is going to be much more of a weapon when you can't focus on him. I mean, let's be honest, if you're. When he's playing for Wake Forest, it's really easy to lock in on Demon Claiborne. I think when you get him in an NFL offense and you start getting him involved in the passing game as a receiver out of the backfield, you have a chance to have a real weapon. When you, if you draft him in the middle rounds, you're not expecting him to be the, the main primary ball carrier. But this is a guy you give 10 to 15 touches a game, it can make a difference for you.

[A]

You'd think I was going to pound the table For Adam Randall.

[B]

You would, I think if you had two. You do, you would, you would take Randall. It's not that you're. You'd love Randall, but. Okay, who you going with?

[A]

At £232, a former wide receiver catching the ball the way he has.

[B]

You can't help yourself.

[A]

Catching the ball at the combine, catching the ball at his pro day recently the way he did 37 inch vertical 104 broad. But the hit rate on a guy like that isn't. Is like 40% or less when it's a projection, when it's a back that's not proven with a production. And I love the, I love where he is now compared to where he was when he, he moved when he converted from wide receiver to running back. So while I, I'm going to adore the pick when he comes off the board and probably in the fourth, maybe even the fifth round the back I'm gonna kind of sneaky pound the table for in a bat in a running back class that doesn't have a lot of givens and there's projections and there's certain roles and there's all of that. I did some thinking last night, some deep diving, some self assessing, always dangerous.

[B]

But go ahead.

[A]

I'm looking for something that's proven. What do I know and what's proven to me is K Tron Allen.

[B]

I freaking love it.

[A]

I love it. K Tron Allen is. I know what I'm getting. K Tron Allen split time with one of the most talented explosive backs in this class, Nicholas Singleton. K Tron Allen overtook Singleton this last year. All of his explosiveness. Nick Singleton's ability to catch the ball and take a 7 yard what would normal back would go for 7. He takes a 25 or to the house. Why did they go back to Allen? They went back to Allen because they trusted him. Because he gets what's available and a little bit more. He runs low to the ground, he is powerful. He has contact balance for days. He most importantly that sucker's got instincts. He feels it, he senses it. What's blocked up is he's going to get and he's going to get a little bit more. And so I'm looking at a league right where almost every single team, even the ones that have great backs. Bijan had a running mate for a while. He just got paid out. Tyler Algier like everyone you you mentioned Ramandre Stevens, Stevenson and Henderson and Trayvon Henderson. Every, every even the great backs have a guy. And so no matter where Catron Allen Lands the team that drafts him, going to bring him in to be that guy. Take a load off early, early in the game, early downs, short yardage, stuff like that. He's gonna. And so if I'm getting him in the fourth round, I like it. Kaytron, he's just. I'm warming on him, man. I'm warming. They trust him at Penn State. They believe in that guy. So, I mean, he rushed for close

[B]

to 4,000 yards while he was there. I mean, at Penn State. And I hope you're gonna hear all about how, you know, he's got a lot of wear and tear. He's an older prospect. He's this. He's not, you know, the most talented guy, blah, blah, blah. Shut up. Shut up.

[A]

Like you're getting.

[B]

You need four years of this guy and he's going to come in and I. I guarantee you endurable. It's one thing to say, like, he has a lot of wear and tear, but I mean, all the carries that this guy got and just coming back time after time after time. I love K John Allen. I love.

[A]

Yeah, give me a durable downhill size.

[B]

I'm glad you spotlighted him, man. I'm glad you put him in the spotlight because I think he's being overlooked in this group. And I get why. I get why he's not going to go earlier. I can certainly understand that. But don't. You could do a whole lot worse than K. Tron Allen in this draft.

[A]

All right, I'm gonna give you a second to think about this if you don't have one already. But we're gonna finish all these shows with. With. I told you the last. The last time we were there, last time on wide receivers, I wouldn't be surprised if. And I wouldn't be surprised if. And we kind of touched on it earlier. But I'm starting to get a sense as I talk to people in the league, I wouldn't be surprised if Jeremiah Love doesn't go four overall, that he's sitting there at seven and that a team makes a big splash move to go up and get him. Jeremiah Love is the number one player in this draft. It's not universal, but it's pretty damn close. And it's a much heavier consensus or majority than you would think for a running back. Right? And so if he's the best player in the draft, even though it's a running back and you got other teams sitting outside of the top 10, like the Rams and maybe the Vikings at 18 or a team that I'm not even aware of right now. I get a sense that's the spot with Washington picking 7. 7. And then not again till 77. That a team could move up and go get the best player in this draft even though he is a running back and you're paying a decent amount less at 7 than you are at 4 and it becomes a little bit more worthwhile at that point. So that's my. Greg Shapiro is my producer at ESPN who. Who turned me on and I didn't even know what he was talking about. He's like, you ever. You know the whole. Don't. Don't be surprised if with you. And I was like, no. He's like, I've caught on to that trend. So don't be surprised if Love's sitting there at 7. If there's a team that makes a splash to go up and get him. I think the Rams are most likely. I think a team like the Vikings are another one could wind up doing that. And because it's a hard. It's hard to figure out where that guy's going to go if he doesn't go for. And Washington, they could take him. They could sit and take him. But I think that they would like to move back and. And take care of some other needs and fill out the compensation. What about for you match with this running back group?

[B]

I'm going to take a cut here. I'm going to take a swing.

[A]

Don't be surprised if.

[B]

Don't be surprised if Kentucky Running back Seth McGowan is one of the top three backs in this class. When we look back on it all and it's complicated. He had some problems, some significant issues earlier in his career and that's why I had to leave Oklahoma actually end up. Let's like just be upfront about it. Ended up in prison and had to rebuild his whole life. You know, he went to. I think it was. I'll get the schools right here, you know, Texas College, Butler Community College, New Mexico State and finally gets back to Kentucky. There's some other issues. He's got small hands. He puts the ball on the ground. But you look at the talent of this guy at 6 foot 223 pounds and it runs a 44940. He's a big back. He's got juice. How about the vertical jump of 42 and a half inches? 1011 broad jump. This dude's big, he's explosive. I like his tape. There's, you know, there's all the off the field stuff that you're going to have to sit down and make sure that that's in the past and understand, you know, what you're dealing with. I understand all of that, but when you're looking at a class that's maybe a little thinner than most running back classes, this kid has the ability, the ability to be a contributor, a significant contributor in the NFL.

[A]

Yeah, McGowan's an intriguing one for sure. All right, it's Friday. Let's get out of here. Let's let people get back to their weekend. I am so pumped for Monday. What?

[B]

Congratulations, Tucker. Have a great weekend. Everything, everything goes well. Hopefully it's not 145 degrees, though apparently dry heat, you're fine.

[A]

It's totally fine. And it might turn into a pool party. But you know what? Pool parties are more fun than regular parties. So why wouldn't a pool wedding be be better than a regular wedding? So yes, much love to to Tucker as he, as he takes that next step in the journey of life. It's exciting and Tucker is the absolute best, so. And to you mention five stars as well.

[B]

Thanks, man.

[A]

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