A Brendan Sorsby Supplemental Draft PSA. Plus, Scouting LaNorris Sellers.

Summary

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Episode Title: A Brendan Sorsby Supplemental Draft PSA. Plus, Scouting LaNorris Sellers
Date: June 24, 2026
Hosts: Todd McShay, Steve Muench (with frequent appearances by Bucky Brooks & Daniel Jeremiah)

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Overview

This episode delivers a twofold agenda: a reactionary deep-dive into Brendan Sorsby's failed bid for the NFL Supplemental Draft (framed as a "PSA" directly to Sorsby and his circle), followed by a detailed scouting breakdown and spirited debate comparing the 2026-2027 quarterback prospects: Brendan Sorsby and LaNorris Sellers. The episode is marked by urgent career advice, evaluative detail, candid dialogue, and high-level scouting insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brendan Sorsby & the Supplemental Draft Scandal

• Situation Recap ([00:26–01:57, 02:46–04:36]):
  Brendan Sorsby, after transferring from Cincinnati to Texas Tech due to gambling allegations and going through rehab, was ruled ineligible by the NCAA. Though he sought a court injunction to keep playing, legal and conference pressures ultimately forced his hand.
• NFL’s Position:
  The NFL denied Sorsby's supplemental draft petition, essentially canceling the event and Sorsby's shot at immediate pro entry.
• Initial Reaction & Tone:
  • “It sucks. I mean that's my initial thought. Like I just, just to be blunt about it, this sucks.” – Bucky Brooks ([04:36])
  • Consideration of both needed accountability and the severity of removing a young player from football for a year.

The NFL’s Hardline on Gambling

• NFL and other pro leagues have drawn an unyielding "bright line" on gambling violations, especially as the league is itself partnered with gambling entities.
• McShay clarifies that, despite the league’s own conflicts, when it comes to discipline they're "judge and jury" ([06:13]).
  • "The league has very clearly made a stance that… an example is made."
• McShay’s advice: "Take your punishment… it doesn’t matter how embedded the league is with gambling. It doesn’t matter how strong a legal case you think you have... The league is making an example of you. Fair or not fair." ([11:04])

The PSA to Sorsby (Highlight)

• McShay urges Sorsby to accept the punishment, focus on personal and athletic development, seek support for his addiction, and prepare for next year’s standard draft rather than escalating legal battles.
  • “Take your medicine. You made the mistake… The league has spoken.” ([11:04])
  • “Prepare yourself for next April’s draft. Stay out of trouble. Stay out of headlines.” ([12:25])
• Notable analogy: “College football is vulnerable. The NCAA is weak. The NFL is not… in some ways the NFL is big Pharma, in some ways the NFL is big Tobacco. You want to stand up to them? Not when you’re limping in on one hobbled leg.” ([12:44])
• Emphasis on personal growth: "It's time to be a grown man. Grown men take accountability. Show contrition. Do some work on yourself." ([13:32])
• Prediction: If Sorsby does these things, "You’ll be an NFL player in 10 months." ([14:40])

Additional Context

• The opportunity loss for Sorsby is enormous (potential $6 million lost), and there’s no evidence he bet on his own games ([15:47]).
• Alternatives like USFL or CFL are not realistic paths during this cycle ([16:32]).

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2. Quarterback Prospect Breakdown: Sorsby vs. Sellers

Physical & Athletic Profiles ([19:55–20:32])

• Brendan Sorsby:
  • Height: 6'2¾"
  • Weight: 238 lbs
  • Estimated 40: 4.7s (hosts think faster)
  • Noted for arm talent, good mobility, competitiveness.
• LaNorris Sellers:
  • Height: 6'3½"
  • Weight: 245 lbs
  • Estimated 40: 4.5s (possibly faster)
  • "Built like a brick house" with elite running and playmaking ability.

Tier Ranking and Scouting Impressions

• LaNorris Sellers
  • Bucky Brooks’ current #1 QB for 2026–27, “no offense to Sorsby, it’s not even close… He’s ahead of Arch Manning right now.” ([21:10])
  • Tape trumps stats: "Watch the tape from two years ago. I feel like I’ve watched every throw. I am all in on LaNorris Sellers.” ([21:27])
  • Elite in both mobility and arm strength; top physical traits.
• Brendan Sorsby
  • "Phenomenally gifted"; some throws and highlights better than Sellers'', but more volatility, less consistency under the spotlight.
  • "If you take Sorsby’s 50 throw highlight, it’s actually a little bit better than Sellers." ([23:13])
• On Sorsby’s lost opportunity: “The worst thing in the world is wasted potential.” – Daniel Jeremiah ([24:32])

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Strengths Analysis

• LaNorris Sellers ([25:07]):
  • Compete level and toughness—impossible to bring down, excellent lower-body strength.
  • “He is Superman… tries to do too much” ([25:58])
  • Accuracy underrated (66.8% adjusted), especially when given time.
  • “He’s built like a brick house, man. It is different.” ([25:45])
• Brendan Sorsby ([28:44]):
  • True dual-threat: “His greatest strength… is his mobility. By far right now.”
  • Arm talent is top notch—can make every NFL throw, throws with velocity, creativity, and anticipation.
  • "Creative, dynamic, explosive without being reckless... Protecting the ball while also doing all those special things is pretty amazing." ([31:54])
  • Mental/physical toughness and "will to power" compared to Tim Tebow.
  • “I would love to coach this guy because he's so damn tough.” ([33:54])

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Weaknesses & "Homework" for 2026

• Sellers
  • Mechanics still inconsistent—overstriding leads to balls sailing high.
  • Needs better touch on short/intermediate throws, especially in pressure moments ([39:23–43:02]).
  • Maturation required in decision-making (stop trying to be Superman every time).
  • "Your biggest strength can be your biggest weakness." ([45:16])
• Sorsby
  • Faster reading/progression needed.
  • Needs time for personal growth and experience missed due to suspension; faces the challenge of development without game reps ([46:17]).
• Supporting Cast Context:
  • Sellers has overcome lackluster teammates and constant OC changes, making his production more impressive ([48:35–50:40]).

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3. NFL Translation & Projection

• LaNorris Sellers:
  • "Top five franchise quarterback; a different, different dude… tape is better, more accurate than Arch right now." ([47:11], [54:40])
  • Evaluated as a day-one starter with immense upside.
• Brendan Sorsby:
  • Still seen as a likely starting-caliber NFL QB—“a damn good starting quarterback in the NFL”—but will have to prove readiness after a lost season ([47:11]).
  • Draft status/re-entry still unclear due to current limbo.

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4. Grades & QB Class Outlook ([52:01–55:12])

• Sellers graded 91–93 (out of 100) – puts him as a true elite prospect.
• Sorsby would be Day 2, maybe late first round with full availability.
• This emerging class (with Arch Manning, Dante Moore, Sellers, and Sorsby) is viewed as much stronger than recent classes at the equivalent point in the cycle.
  • “I feel way better about this class than I did at that [2024] class at that point.” ([54:40])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the NFL’s harsh stance:
  "Take your punishment. The NFL made it perfectly clear in its letter... The league is making an example of you. Fair or not fair." – Daniel Jeremiah ([11:04])
• Personal advice to Sorsby:
  "It’s time to be a grown man. Grown men take accountability. Show contrition. Do some work on yourself." – Daniel Jeremiah ([13:32])
• On LaNorris Sellers’ upside:
  "Bucky Brooks: My biggest takeaway was Lenorr Sellers was my number one quarterback going into the 2025 season and he will at worst be my number two going in the 2026 season. No offense to Brendan Sorsby. It's not even close and I'll be honest with you. He's ahead of Arch Manning right now." ([21:10])
• On Sorsby’s will to power:
  "There's some Tebow stuff in terms of like will to power, strength as a runner." – Daniel Jeremiah ([34:03])
• On NFL readiness:
  “LaNorris Sellers is a top five pick to me, I mean he is a franchise quarterback...” – Bucky Brooks ([47:11]) “Brendan Sorsby can be a starting quarterback at the NFL and a damn good starting quarterback in the NFL.” – Bucky Brooks ([47:11])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:26] – Introduction to Sorsby’s NCAA issues and Supplemental Draft context
• [04:36] – Hosts’ blunt reactions and debate on the fairness of punishment
• [11:04] – The “PSA” to Sorsby: What to do next
• [15:47] – Discussion on the cost/opportunity loss and specifics of the case
• [20:22] – Physical/build data for Sorsby and Sellers
• [21:10] – Scouting: Brooks on Sellers as QB1
• [25:07] – Sellers’ strengths
• [28:44] – Sorsby’s strengths
• [39:23] – Sellers’ developmental needs and mechanical issues
• [46:17] – How both quarterbacks project for the NFL
• [52:01] – Final grades, class outlook
• [54:40] – This QB class vs. prior years
• [56:28] – Tease for next week: C.J. Carr and Julian Sayin breakdown

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Final Notes

• Multiple references to the importance of support, coaching, and personal responsibility for both prospects.
• The extended series will continue, next covering Manning Passing Academy takeaways and more 2027 QB prospects.
• Show closes with a quick shoutout of support for former colleague Matt Miller after a car accident ([60:09]).

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Overall, this episode is essential listening for NFL and college football draft followers—pairing inside access and personal candor with sharp, actionable scouting insight.

Transcript

[Host/Announcer]

Foreign.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's part two of Building the Board 2027 quarterback class. And today features Brendan Sorsby versus Lenora Sellers. But not before we get to the breaking news on SBE and the supplemental draft. Just 309 days until the NFL draft match. You good?

[Bucky Brooks]

I'm great, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Roll that beat, Tuck. If you're tuning into the show, you probably have an understanding and a little bit of background on what's gone on with Brendan. Source transfers from Cincinnati to Texas Tech, NCAA after gambling allegations and admitted to gambling and going into rehab for gambling addiction. NCAA rules him ineligible. He finds a local court to basically get an injunction to allow him to play. And then the Big 12 threatens with a heavy hammer behind it and its legal team to appeal that and to basically attack him for that ruling and to prevent him from playing. They take it seriously, Source being his team and wind up pulling back on the. On. On their. Their claims and their ability to. To allow source be to play. And they, you know, by removing that. That suit, they. They wind up saying, all right, next step is we've got till January to June 22nd to get a, you know, our petition into the NFL for the supplemental draft. He files. It doesn't.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

Go well. Stunning news. It's stunning news. Now, there was writing on the wall, like, I even put a call into the league office, and it was crickets. And so I should have taken the potential for the NFL to essentially deny his petition more seriously, but nobody else did, so I was kind of following the breadcrumbs of. This is kind of a. I don't know. It's a given that the league will hold its supplemental draft for the first time in three years and maybe we'll have the first player draft drafted since 2019 in the Supplemental draft. That all falls apart. And if you haven't read it, I'm not going to read the whole, the, the, the letter from the NFL basically denying the petition and, and claiming that the NFL are stating that the NFL is not going to have a supplemental draft. If you haven't read it, you can find it. It's all over social media from, from our good friend Albert Breer, good friend Adam Schefter, Ian Rapoport, anyone. You want to go read what the NFL said, I'm going to throw it to you. Mitchell, what are your thoughts on this situation initially before And I do want to remind we're going to get to the breakdown of Sellers vs. Sorsby, two similar prospects in terms of rawness, areas that need to improve, but unbelievable talent. That's what the, the meat of this show is going to be today. But this is breaking news. I mean it got to the point, Steve, where there was, there was already a pro date set. Yeah, it was going to be July 10th. Like everyone was assuming that this was going to happen. He was going to be in the supplemental draft that was, that was estimated to be somewhere mid to late July. And now all of a sudden this news breaks and we're all left like, you know, so, so what now? What are your initial thoughts, bud?

[Bucky Brooks]

I mean, this sucks. I mean that's my initial thought. Like I just, just to be blunt about it, this sucks. I'll say this, Brendan Swords, we put himself in this situation and there has to be accountability and I understand that. At the same time, what is this going to look like long term? Now we're taking this guy out of football for a year. What's that going to do in terms of how it affects him? I also want people to keep in mind, keep in mind that when this happened, when the bulk of this was happening, this young man was 18 years old. If you have not spent time with an 18 year old recently, understand that these are kids, children. This is not a fully formed adult who is making rational decisions. Again, not saying he shouldn't be held accountable, but some of this, you know, I, I heard a clip of maybe he's not going to, no one's going to look into him in 2027 after this. I don't understand. I mean the punishment has to fit the crime. I think there's an argument this might be too harsh. Part of the problem is the timeline's so Condensed. We don't know exactly what happened and when it happened. And that's a big issue here. Also, the NFL is just going to NFL and some of this seems a little fishy to me of oh, well, you didn't include any documentation. Well, did you ask for any? Were they supposed to. Did players in the past provide that kind of a docum? If his team didn't know that, that's, that's terrible on their part. They should have been prepared for that. But now you have a young man who's got nowhere to play football next year, has no home, is going to have a lot of free time. I, it's. I get it. I understand there's got to be accountability. But like I said from the top, this sucks.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It does suck. It does suck. And I understand the argument of, well, there's a lot of human beings or individuals in the NFL or entering the NFL that have done a lot, quote, unquote, worse and does the crime fit the punishment compared to some of those other crimes and what the punishment winds up being? I know this from 20 plus years of doing this and talking to league sources and the NFL, all major sports leagues have drawn a very, as everyone's saying, bright line, a very thick line in the sand on when it comes to gambling. And, and I'll get to in a minute. Like, I get it. There's a lot of things that sourcebecan Sorsby and his team can, can push back on. And I also want, I do think it's important to say this. I'm not overlooking the fact that other people do worse things. I do think it's important to state the league has very clearly made a stance that with all other things that are punishable legally, they wait for those legal, typically legal ramifications to occur, due process, and then they respond with additional punishment within the league. And what they can do, basically a business misconduct. Right. In addition to whatever happens in the court of law. This is not because gambling is legalized and the NFL is now in bed with gambling and there's a whole podcast to do on that. We're not going to do that. That's not our show. They become the judge and jury here. Right. The league has to be the final say. And it's critical. More critical now than ever. Right. To make sure that an example is made. Okay. You know me mention I'm not big on PSAs. Right. Public service announcements. When I make them, I do, I take it very seriously and I do with a lot of background and I make sure I'VE talked to everyone involved, not everyone involved, that that potentially has a say and has enough background to try to help. I don't do it to come out and cut people, attack people. I do it because I'm trying to, because of my connections and what we've built here over all 25, 26 years. I do it because I'm trying to get a message across and I don't do it very often. And I'm not perfect. I tried to tell Trinidad Chamblitz, like, be careful. I wouldn't push it, man. Because what, what happens is you wind up missing the combine, you wind up missing the Senior Bowl. All of a sudden, you know, everyone in Ole Miss is telling you, hey, we're going to take care of this and we're going to get you back on the field. And what happens if they don't. All of a sudden you're, you're sitting without a chair in the musical chair games. Musical chairs game. And it worked out, but he was inches away from it. Not. And we'll see if it really worked out in the long run with what he. Where he could have been drafted last year. Now how does he play this quarterback class versus last year's quarter, all those things. But I also gave some PSA to Penn State fans and basically the program on the, on the James Franklin and what's going on there feel pretty good about that. Brian Kelly with LSU situation going on there. Shador Sanders in that situation. So the track record's not. Not. It's pretty good. And that's, that's not Even concluding the 20 years of ESPN when I pick my spots. And so I do have a PSA for, for Brendan Sorsby today. And it's important that he, whether it's me or somebody else with the same message that he starts to listen and opens his eyes to what's really going on. So why am I going to take time on the show and do this? It's because I want Brendan Sorsby and his team to hear it, okay? I want his team to realize I don't have an agenda. I might know what I'm talking about, though, when I say the following. Take your punishment. Take your punishment. It's like the Black Mass quote, like, take the money, take the money, take the money. It's the same thing. Take your punishment. The NFL made it perfectly clear in its letter that went public in the last 24 hours. You can argue the inconsistency with their rulings, you can argue deadlines and procedures. And quite frankly, I Think Brendan Sorsby has a decent case against the NFL, excluding him from entering the NFL via the supplemental draft. But it doesn't matter. The league has spoken. Take your medicine. You made the mistake. It was your actions that got you in this spot. It doesn't matter how embedded the league is with gambling. It doesn't matter how strong a legal case you think you have against the NFL. The league is making an example of you. Fair or not fair. Your cleanest path to the NFL, Brennan, is to deal with your gambling addiction. Prepare yourself for next April's draft. Stay out of trouble. Stay out of headlines. Get in the best shape of your life. Continue to master your craft. Whatever route you decide to take, from pre draft training to working with an ex NFL quarterback not dissimilar from what Fernando Mendoza did with Brian Greasy. Get with someone who can help you get the help you need with your addiction. Get with someone who's been through the NFL at the quarterback position can help you in the mental aspect of the game. Get with someone who can help you drill home your mechanics that need work. You're so damn talented, man. You are so talented. You are a first round talent physically, but you're not there yet. You're not there emotionally, you're not there. Maturity wise, you're not there mechanically. Focus on what you can control. Now, collusion's a big word. It's also an accusation. Nobody is making an accusation, including and especially myself. But don't allow yourself to become the next example the league makes with an unspoken punishment.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

College football is vulnerable. There are loopholes and you almost exploited one. The NCAA is weak. The NFL is not. Bro, in some ways the NFL is big Pharma. In some ways the NFL is big tobacco. We should also want to stand up. We all should want to stand up to big pharma and Big Tobacco when there are two strong legs to stand on. When you're on the right side, and I'm not saying you're on the wrong side, but unfortunately because of your actions, you'd be limping in on one hobbled leg. That's not going to get it done against the NFL. I'm reading and I'm seeing what your team is saying and we're going to fight this and all the reasons why you're right.

[Bucky Brooks]

Stop.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Again, the league has spoken and the NFL rarely stands down when it's trying to make an example of someone in some situation. Maurice. Maurice Claret, Mike Williams, Colin Kaepernick and beyond. Don't be the next name on that List, bud, don't. You're 22 years old. I get it. I made some dumb decisions when I was 18 through 22. Still make him every once in a while, but. But I. Prove to the league that you were a young man who made some young man decisions, some young man mistakes. More importantly, prove to the league that you accept your responsibility and that you're working diligently, diligently to become a grown man. It's time to be a grown man. Grown men take accountability. Show contrition. Do some work on yourself. Actually reflect the next time you make headlines. Speak for yourself. Make it your voice. Show an understanding of what you did wrong. That's what the adults at the table want to see. And the NFL made that perfectly clear in its letter to you. And it's not by accident that that letter leaked and the media reported it even before you found out. So take this time. Get your mind right. Work on your addiction. Get your body in peak shape and take your medicine. If you do all those things, you'll be an NFL player in 10 months. You can put all of this behind you. You can learn some valuable lessons. Hopefully you learn some of those lessons. Hopefully, you can work on some of your personal issues. Hopefully you can get yourself ready to be the best version of Brendan Swordsby when the league welcomes. When the league welcomes you with open arms next April. That's my psa. That's my hope for Brendan. And hopefully he and his team, when they watch us at some point, will. Will take that appropriately and, and with understanding that I really come from a good place when I say all that. And I also have a lot of background knowledge now that I didn't have 18 hours ago to say all those things.

[Bucky Brooks]

I'm with you. And for those who might be calling for more, I mean, just realize that we're talking about loss of what, $6 million, $6 million and a year of. In a year with the opportunity to make himself an early first round pick. That opportunity, I think that's a pretty hefty punishment for a guy who right now. And things. Things could change. Right now there is no proof that he bet on a game that he played in. I, that's. My understanding is that he did bet on, you know, Indiana games when he was there, but he did not play in any of those games. If that changes, I'll feel differently. But the information we have right now, I feel like that's a pretty hefty punishment and the league should be able to move on if he, you know, does Exactly. Follows exactly the path you just laid out for him. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And the tough part is like, the CFL calendar doesn't work work that well.

[Bucky Brooks]

No to the.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I know everyone's talking about the usfl and I saw one of the partial owners came out and said, we welcome you with open arms. What's he going to start playing in March during the pre draft process and mid season when the draft is held. So I honestly think it's everything I just said and I don't want to be repetitive. I think unfortunately, it's time that he takes his medicine, that he stands down, doesn't accrue any more. I mean, who's paying for all these legal bills? Those things rack up fast, man.

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[Bucky Brooks]

So do you think he will?

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It's tough.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know.

[Bucky Brooks]

His mind?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know. And the interesting part is, and I understand, like, having gone through some, you know, I went through a divorce. I understand there are certain times you, you have to stand back and, and allow the, the legal process to, to. To take place. And I also understand there's certain times where you're advised, legally, stop talking. We need to do the talking. Right. But I think unfortunately he is 22 years old and he needs some people in his circle to tell him, next time someone speaks on or about Brennan Sorsby, it needs to be you and it needs to be the right message and it needs to be authentic. Okay. All right. Tough transition, man. I mean, it's just like a sharp left turn to like, hey, how is he as a player? And we've done, because it's the summer of Sorsby, we've done a lot on him. I don't want to shortchange it, but I also don't want to be overly repetitive for our loyal viewers and listeners. And we appreciate everyone who's watching on Netflix. I love how Netflix is getting our shows up right away now. There's a commitment and I appreciate it. And like, and I know Netflix is still building the platform and everything to make this the destination, but our partnership with Netflix has been nothing but wonderful so far, and we appreciate everything they're doing and then have great hope for how this is going to continue to grow. Also, Spotify is like, you know, there are, there are routes, and you can watch us on Spotify, listen to us on Spotify, listen to us on Apple, wherever else you get your podcast. But for those loyal viewers and listeners, I don't want this to be some repetitive show where it's like, yeah, you already told us that But I also want to cover it knowing that there's going to be some new people watching and a refresher. So I think because we're talking about Sourcebee, I think it's smart to, to dive in and, and do it the way that we normally do it the way we did it with Arch and Dante. And we're going to kind of go through just the way we did. Biggest takeaways, strengths, weaknesses of ultimately land on a grade and continue this seven part series that, that is going to help us build our board as we enter into the 2026 season and have that quarterback board ready to build off of and to adjust as we, as we see on the field the changes that occur. But I want to start with this. We've got Brendan Sorsby from Cincinnati, Indiana, Cincinnati, Texas Tech. We've got Brendan Sorsby who's 6, 6, 2 and 3 quarters is what national listed him as. 238 pounds estimated 4, 7. I don't know that I agree with that. I would say he's a little bit faster. Lenore sellers 6. Lenore sellers listed as 6034 meaning 6, 3 and a half, 245 pounds with an estimated 4 or 5. I saw some 4, 4 stuff there but we'll get to that too. And I also stood next to him at the Manning Passing Academy last year.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, we're gonna, this is like I

[Daniel Jeremiah]

don't know, 6034, 6, 3 and a half.

[Bucky Brooks]

So regardless, I was giddy. I was giddy to see that number.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, he's not going to be at Manning Passing Academy which I'm headed down tomorrow on Thursday morning for, for a few days and thrilled to get down there, thrilled to share everything I see and I'm doing a lot of, I'll do a lot of social posts and we'll do a recap next week and then we'll get right back into it with the seven part series of building the board. The 2027 quarterback class. I love this series that we're doing and it will continue with CJ Carr and and Julian saying Notre Dame and Ohio State respectively. So let's get to it. Sorsby versus Sellers. What's your biggest takeaway after you dove into the tape on both of these guys?

[Bucky Brooks]

My biggest takeaway was Lenore Sellers was my number one quarterback going into the 2025 season and he will at worst be my number two going in the 2026 season. No offense to Brennan Sorsby. It's not even close and I'LL be honest with you. He's ahead of Arch Manning right now.

[Guest Analyst]

He is.

[Bucky Brooks]

He is that good. There. There is. You can, you can get confused by the numbers. Look, they had. South Carolina had four wins last year. Only one in that was Kentucky. I get like, when you look at this and you see you had eight interceptions compared to 13 touchdowns. It's easy to look at some of that production and think, wow, men. How in the world could you think this kid's that good? Watch the tape. Watch the tape from two years ago. I feel like I've watched every throw this kid's had over the last two seasons. I am all in on Lenore Sellers.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

My biggest takeaway is both of these cats. Sorsby and Sellers are phenomenally gifted. Both of these cats have some traits that we see when we're talking about like the Elites, the Lamars, the Josh Allens got the Mahomes. We're talking about rare air with like arm talent, energy on the ball, athleticism, making guys miss speed, power, all those sorts of things. Right.

[Host/Announcer]

The.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

My biggest takeaway is while they both have areas they have to improve upon where I'm. And we'll get to that in a little bit. Sellers areas of improvement that. That need to occur. It's a clearer path for me when I watch and the lights are brighter with. With Sellers than Soresby right now. And I say that because both are unbelievably mobile. Sellers is more mobile.

[Bucky Brooks]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Both make some unbelievable throws. And I would argue this Sourceby's on. If you take Sorsby's 50 throw highlight, it's actually a little bit better than Sellers.

[Bucky Brooks]

I don't know, but they're both good. I don't know though.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Some of the off platform, the arm angles, the anticipation on the. There are some throws that I haven't seen from Sellers that I saw from Sourcebee but. But as a player, overall, Sellers is better right now.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

The debilitating part of all of this is I can see a path where. If Sorsby was at Texas Tech with the weapons, the nil, the supporting cast, the defense, all that stuff that he could have made the big strides he needs to make and could have made it very interesting. Now there is no path and that sucks. And it goes back to your original point. That sucks. And he earned it and he should take his medicine and everything I said. But to see this, like this potential, what is it? Bronx tale, worst thing in the world is. Is. Is wasted potential. Right?

[Bucky Brooks]

Right. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. So that. That's where I am that's my takeaway.

[Guest Analyst]

I will.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'll get to the grade later at the end as well.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, we will.

[Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Doing this series to kind of. I don't want to rebut your QB2 for sellers right now because I do think we're going to have a really good discussion at the end of this thing. So let's save it for there.

[Bucky Brooks]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But let's just say I understand and I. And I. I'm. I'm excited to get into it. So let's go here. Biggest strengths for both of these guys. Take it wherever you want.

[Bucky Brooks]

I listen there. I'm again, I absolutely love Sellers, but I'm gonna. The. The biggest strength I think for him is, and they kind of tie together is his compete level, I think is different when you watch him on tape. His just the way he competes is unique. And then it's impossible to get him on the ground, whether he's scrambling or he's in the pocket. His strength, his base, his lower body is just so powerful that it allows him to. The velocity on his passes when he throws on time in rhythm, can follow through is incredible. The ability to shake off tacklers. Again in the pocket.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He is built like a brick house, man. It is different.

[Bucky Brooks]

It is different. And then he has. In addition to it, though, the want to. The refusal to go down and sometimes

[Daniel Jeremiah]

it gets into trouble.

[Bucky Brooks]

We'll get into this a little bit later. He tries to do too much. He is Superman. I've said it before, he tries to do too much when he gets into certain situations. But that being said, you got to love the way he competes and the way he just wants to make plays. And that's just his greatest strength. I think there's a lot of other positives to his game. For example, something that thinks is. I don't think people realize how good he can be in the pocket and how accurate he is when his first read is there and he gets the ball out in time and his feet are set correctly. And I think he even got better about getting to his second and third read and resetting his feet as the season went. You can look at the. He misses some throws. I understand that he's a more accurate quarterback than people might think. And you throw in a lot of throwaways because he's running for his life. A lot of throws in the face of pressure. When this guy's got time and space in the pocket. I think he's actually a very accurate passer. So I can go on and on, but you're giving the biggest strength. I, I Listen man, I'm telling you, I am telling you that he is more his adjusted accuracy that South Carolina had 15 drop passes last year on him. His adjusted accuracy is like 66.8% or something like that. I'm not saying it's his greatest strength. I'm not saying he's Dante Moore. What I am saying is it's not as big of a weakness as people think it is.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, we'll get to that in a minute. I think it's, it's, it's wonderful to have a quarterback with one elite trait like unique game changing elite trait. You can build on that, right? Sellers has got two and Soursby has two. Now their mobility is a little different. Sellers is a little more like there's one Texas A and M play late in the, in the, in the first half. I think like 33 seconds left off the top of my head, something like that. He, he's, he kind of, he climbs, scrambles out, extends the play fakes, you know, pump fake defenders like and he's just around like bang, 10 yards pick up, picks up the first down, keeps it rolling. They don't, they don't want to converting a touchdown but they get a field goal before the half that turns it to was it 30 to 30 to 3. I think it was at half of that Texas A M game which they went on to lose. I, I see him make more defenders miss and I see, I see more like pure speed. Sorsby is fast enough. Like he's, he's got speed. He really does like and he's a damn good effective runner. Like really, really good and extends and has all those things.

[Bucky Brooks]

That's his greatest strength I think is his mobility. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

By far right now.

[Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But Sorsby also has this arm talent to him and the ability to drive the ball and make certain throws. I would argue Sellers, it almost comes easier in terms of just flicking wrist driving it. You know I gave, I was.

[Bucky Brooks]

We agree on Sellers. I gave Sellers a one in arm strength and one in mobility. Those the top grades you can give. I actually gave Swordsby a two in arm strength. I like the arm strength. There are a couple times and I wanted to ask you about this. There are times where I'm like man that is, that's easy. I mean that's just easy. Some of his down. Look at Utah. Some of the, the deep balls. Yeah, Utah.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

Like that last rail shot they were down a lot but like left rail shot, he just flicked it.

[Bucky Brooks]

He had two in that game where I'm like, man, that is. That is fun to watch and it's on time and receivers running under it, it was. I mean, it doesn't get any better than that. As a vertical passer. There are times when he throws underneath and I feel like the ball hangs for just a split second. And I don't know whether it's him choosing not to drive the ball. In my notes I read, is this an arm strength thing or is this just him. Him thinking he needs to take something off and he's not putting all he could put into it? There are, There are times where I think he can get the ball quicker from A to B on some of these intermediate passes that I think gives the coverage a chance to recover. And that concerned me a little bit. And so I gave. I ended up giving him a two, but I really did debate it. I wondered if you saw some of the same things or if you. You were just comfortable with it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Honestly. I would give sellers a 1 and I would give source be a 1.5 if we were allowed.

[Bucky Brooks]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't. 2 feels a little bit like. Yeah, it's above that. I think it's better than that. But I, I like, I clearly think Sellers can rip it a little bit better and can do it without like having a strain or have his base under, you know, So I, I don't disagree in that regard.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah,

[Daniel Jeremiah]

like. Like I said, the lights are a little bit brighter when you watch Sellers like Sorsby. The thing that I appreciated with Swordsby and there. There were some times like they. He had two great plays. Who was it?

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Utah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I forget which game. Yeah, two. It was two back to back plays. It was like 11:49, second quarter. I'm looking at it like absolutely insane to play sequence where he rolls to the right, defenders in his face, arm slots off, throws wide receiver open behind the coverage that leads him perfectly to the sideline. Like that's an anticipation throw when everything's breaking down, changing arm angles off platform, then comes back in the next play and throws a teardrop like. Teardrop like God had a little tear that just came down from the clouds and down the left rail. Two plays. But then, by the way, that's supposed

[Bucky Brooks]

to be a bad tape and it's not. It's not great. But there is enough on that Utah tape to be excited about what he can do. When you look at the year that he had, you're like, oh, well, he got to Utah and he got to Arizona and he got byu and. And he didn't play quite as well. And it's. Well, you throw on the Utah tape and you're some, some NFL throws there, man. I mean there is some stuff to be excited about. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And unfortunately he had a fumble then after those two plays and gives the ball away and it was kind of a fluke one. Right. But the thing that I respect with him is you have all of these like insane big time throws, big time runs and this creativity and typically quarterbacks that have all of that. You think about Lamar coming out, Josh Allen especially like there's turnovers, there's mistakes, there's critical errors. He didn't have a lot of them. Like 21 big time throws against just 3 turnover worthy plays. I think it was like pff. I got that from like. And he also like the pressure to sack ratio is outstanding. It was the best. I mentioned this in an earlier show. The best of all these like 12 to 14 quarterbacks that we're gonna talk about in this year's class during the seven part series. So protecting the ball while also doing all those special things is pretty amazing. Now again like do you trust his reads and is he getting from one to the next as fast as he should and all those sorts of things and we can get to the weaknesses but. But there's something really cool about watching him protecting the ball and not get giving the plays away and not being here. It is creative, dynamic, explosive without being reckless. That's one part of his game. Brendan Swordsby's games that I really appreciated. And you know what else I love and I talked to a former NFL head coach about this. Some people obviously when, when we have situations like this, I get a lot of texts and I think let's call it what it is. I think sometimes it's like I got to go on a show. Give me and I know you've done the work. What do you see? And then this, this one head coach text me and so I gave a kind of a rundown and then there. And. And his response was I. I went and watched enough this morning. Agree with what you're saying. And the thing that I took away was I would love to coach this guy because he's so damn tough, man. And it's just like you're talking about with Sellers with the competitiveness and the both these guys, man, fuck his swords.

[Host/Announcer]

Be tough.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I told you there's some Tebow stuff in terms of like will to power, strength as a runner which yeah like how far is that going to carry

[Bucky Brooks]

you in the league?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But it translates in the mental and physical toughness that's required to be a really good quarterback in the NFL, especially one that is going to rely throughout their career and early in their career more. More importantly, when they don't have all the answers. Mentally, you've got to have a level of toughness. Right? And he has that. So let's transition now.

[Bucky Brooks]

Oh, okay. Go ahead.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, no, no, go ahead.

[Bucky Brooks]

Are you gonna go into the net? Are you gonna transition to the negatives here?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, like the homework that needs to be done is what we're calling it, stuff that we, that we want to see from both these guys in 2025. Unfortunately, we're not going to see it from Sourceby, presumably, you know, unless he. Yeah, I don't see the path where. Yeah, it sucks.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

sucks. So where where's the homework that needs to be done whether it's sours be privately working or Sellers with with let's let's also mention we've kind of talked a lot about Sourcebees background. Sellers made the decision to come back to South Carolina. There was a lot of speculation, a lot of money being thrown at him. Miami was 1:1.

[Bucky Brooks]

I would have given him a billion dollars if I was Miami. A billion dollars to get that kid building. I don't know, I don't know how much money they were giving him but in a no offense.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well there was, there was Talk of what 4/4 million for for Ty Simpson was the offer. I and I don't official offer but but Sellers decides to come back and so the background on Sellers is this. He's entering his fourth year at South Carolina. His first year was 2023. Three games played, zero starts. That's considered a red shirt year. Takes over as the starter the next year starts all 12 games. Last season he starts all 12 games that he plays but gets injured. I think it was late in the first half against lsu it was an ankle injury sits out the Akron game I want to say was the next game on the schedule and then returns and you could see I think it was like Ole Miss and a couple games wasn't quite the same dude was still recovering. But as the season progresses you get to Texas A and M. You get to like the Clemson game. There was one other game Illinois, the bowl game. I I think that was the sequence but that that he was kind of back to form. So this is his third year as a starter. Enters the year with 24 starts. This will give him 30 healthy season minimum 36 starts and could be inching closer to 40, which is awesome. Right?

[Bucky Brooks]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So the, the what I want to see and this is where we disagree a little bit. Mensch. Yeah, I think he comes in hot. He does short to intermediate passer. The beauty with Sellers is though, it's correctable, man. I like, I spent Saturdays with tate with like M2QB. I've spent a lot of time around Dilfer. I've been to a lot of different camps. Like I've, I've been around this position my whole life, since I was 9 years old. So I can spot at this point in my career what's leading to like his thing is he opens too far with his base. Okay. Picture it like, let's do this. Here's my legs. Short stride, hips drive, arm in unison, arm loose arms. The rope behind the motor. That right when you over stride as a quarterback and or open up too wide, what happens? Your arm trails and then so the release point. Watching go through the screen. The release point is because the arm's trailing. You're like this and what happens? Ball goes high and add to it this yet to be discovered ability to take a little heat off the fastball. And you combine those two things and that's what you see. Like he had the interception against Texas A and M as well in the first half. Just came in hot. Ball's a little high tip tipped up. It's a dream. Center fielder, free safety, maybe catch, maybe catch the ball. Not that one, bro.

[Bucky Brooks]

I, I, maybe the receiver catch the ball. Like maybe that was one of the plays I looked at him was like he had three interceptions that went off receivers hands and one was the running back in the flat. Not, I mean it wasn't like he put too much one on too much air, too much zip on that one. I mean there was a couple times where again, 15 drop passes make the play.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I mean, how about you enter, how about you enter halftime 30, 30 to 3, Texas A and M. Yeah, I think they were ranked 2 in the country at that point. Right now all of a sudden it's 30 to 24 and not, I mean they just came roaring back and, and had some big plays. But now it's 30 to 24. You got three or six seconds left. Six seconds left in the third quarter. Third and seven play, you're on your own 41. You got to stem the tide here, man. Part of this game. We talked about it the other day with Arch and with Dante. There are moments in games, there are situations that you have to deliver. Third Downs, fourth downs, critical spots, game on the line, red zone, all those situations. This is a third and seven play from your own 41 and you're feeling everything start to fall apart. This is where I need my quarterback on an easy slant with not a defender within seven yards to take a little heat off of it, get his feet right, put it on him. Doesn't have to be perfect, don't have to just put it on him. Worst case, that completion gets them a fourth in one and they can make a tough decision. Best case, he leads them, receiver goes and gets a first down. Kind of stem the tide now. We start the fourth quarter still up six. We're in their territory. Game feels a little bit different. So it's those moments where I, I, it feels like nitpicking, but it's really not. When I say I think that's a,

[Bucky Brooks]

that's a fair criticism.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What's the homework for Sellers? The homework is we just got to drill in the mechanics. I promise you, Lamar was, was a meh pastor at Louisville. I promise you Josh Allen for the rifle arm, the mobility, all this stuff. He was so erratic as a passer. I promise you Jalen hurts. I didn't know if it was going to work coming out of Alabama, more hopeful coming out of Oklahoma, but he wasn't there. So like this isn't like, oh, he can't be. You can't improve your accuracy in the NFL. Not the National Football League, the old biker gang coming up from NFL Films. As I used to talk about, like, this is the National Football League. Your footwork has to be right. It's not that, it's not that league anymore. So I see a clear path to him improving. But it's going to come with touch and, and mechanically dry, drilling it in so that he's able to make these easy throws in these big moments and, and even in small moments where you can rely on that consistency more. And I, I believe because I, I, I know him through people and the work ethic and, and the intelligence and the, yes, he's gonna do everything.

[Bucky Brooks]

Captain will probably be a three time team captain.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Right?

[Bucky Brooks]

This kid's a leader. I, I'm gonna push back a little bit and then I'll get into what I think is the biggest weakness. I think you're right. I'm not saying that what you're saying is wrong. I would say that he is, I think definitively further along mechanically as a pastor than those, the other guys that you mentioned. Lamar, Josh, Jalen. I think he's definitively farther along now. Does he still have ways to go? Absolutely. I understand that in terms of making big plays and big moments, I would go back to Missouri two years ago when Missouri storming in the fourth quarter, comes storming back and Lenore in Missouri's now it's a heavyweight fight. They're going back and forth. Luther Burden's making plays for Missouri. All sudden they're down with a minute left. It's a 70 yard drive in 47 seconds where he makes every single play on the drive to give his team the win. So we've seen that he can do that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know. Just so we're clear, I do not question his ability to deliver in moments. I'm saying I want us the next is.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I. And I hear it. I think we may again, this is nuance here. I feel a little bit better about it than you probably did. One thing I would say is this. It's difficult. I understand. You watch the tape. In his offensive line is having a hard time blocking South Carolina State at times and his receivers did drop some balls. And Nick harbor is kind of a frustrating guy because he's so talented, but he's not there as a receiver. He's got to stop trying to do everything all the time. He's got to stop being greedy, pushing the ball downfield in certain situations. Take what's underneath, don't try to put so much on it. You know, he's always trying to make plays and I love that about him. But as my good friend McShay would always say, your biggest strength can be your biggest weakness. And sometimes I see that with him where he's just trying to do too much and he's got to trust his teammates a little bit more to make plays. He's got to make reads, get the ball, just throw the ball out of bounds. He does that sometimes. But there's other times where I think he could be quicker about it. Take, you know, live to fight another day. I think he pushes too much at times.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

How does this translate for the. To the league given the different circumstances? Right. Let's say Sellers makes strides, but maybe isn't like the complete product. Let's say Sorsby takes his medicine, does all the right things, gets with an NFL veteran or, you know, a former quarterback, really works on him himself personally, training, getting right, but doesn't have more game experience. For each of these guys. How does it translate to the league? What are your expectations when they come into the league as early Round draft picks. If that's the case with source being we got a lot to sort through between now and then. But Sellers is a first round pick. Sorsby is a day two picks due to the circumstances. How does it translate?

[Bucky Brooks]

I mean source be. So it's so tough because it's unprecedented and it's going to be. We'll know more then obviously than we do now and going that was the one benefit of all this will be we're no longer on the condensed timeline. We'll be able to go through and find out exactly what happened, when it happened and how teams feel about it. And you know, I'm sure some teams will feel differently than other teams and that'll give us a good idea of where they go. There's no doubt in my mind, as we've been saying all along, that Brendan Sorsby can be a starting quarterback at the NFL and a damn good starting quarterback in the NFL. Lenora Sellers is a top five pick to me, I mean he is a franchise quarterback. He is. He would have, I would have taken him out of over Mendoza last year. I would have taken him over Cam Ward the year before and I think he would have been, you know, he would have been right in the mix with the guy that, that historic class the year before. I think he would have been right in the mix with a lot of those guys too. And it'll be interesting to see how this process unfolds for him. But Lenor Sellers is a different cat. He's a different, different dude to me. He's a top five franchise quarterback. The teams are going to be super excited about getting in their building. Whereas Bren Sorsby's got some questions that he's not quite developed. And I said the team should take a chance in the first round on him. The supplemental draft, I've cooled on that a little bit, but I still think that's true. I think he's a really talented player. Don't get me wrong, Lenora Sellers is, he's got a chance to be a great one.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't want to bury the lead here either. And I think one of the, one of the leads for, for Sellers is this is now going to be his third offensive coordinator. The supporting cast has not been the same. This is an arch with that offensive line that's pumping out NFL guys. This isn't, this isn't Dante who's, who's got all the, you know, Decoran Moore is a freshman, but who's got talented wide receiver. He's got A deep running back group. Obviously Texas has got five guys who are coming in, you know, in a two year span are going to wind up playing the NFL wide receiver. Yeah. Kenyan Sadiq, all of that. So that's part of the lead with, with Sellers. The other part of the lead that I think is even more importantly like more important to the conversation is Sark is coaching Arch Manning. Will Stein, who became very quickly one of the best offensive coordinators and play callers in college football and just took the Kentucky head job, has been coaching Dante more the last two years as sitting behind Dylan Gabriel for a year and then as the starter last year. This is now the third coordinator Kendall Briles will be for Lenora Sellers. So not only is it supporting what do we talk about with NFL guys? Like how do you best support a quarterback in the NFL? It's play callers and playmakers. Right. Three P's. So. Of, of all these quarterbacks we're talking about, we'll get to C.J. carr, we'll get to saying we'll get to Maliava, we'll get to Mayava, we'll, we'll, I mean the list goes on and on.

[Bucky Brooks]

Mess to maker, Mensah Hoover, all those

[Daniel Jeremiah]

guys we'll get to all here.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You could argue the one with the most challenge, the most challenging circumstances with the three Ps is sellers.

[Bucky Brooks]

I would agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm absolutely like I, I, I don't know, it's like week one of college football and everyone's going to be like this game versus like I can't wait to see Sellers with another off season healthy coming into the year with and the playmakers aren't going to be that much better but there's going to be more, more age and refinement and to know that he's with an offensive coordinator that has had his offense, Kendall Briles, offenses that are averaging like almost 50 points a game. Like there's going to be some stuff that's made easier for Sellers and I can't wait to see the difference. And I think we're all hopeful that we're going to see a stark difference. Not dissimilar from what we saw with Mendoza going from Cal to, to Indiana. Not dissimilar from maybe Cam Ward going from Washington, incarnate word, Washington State and then yeah. And then to Miami or Jaden Daniels going from Arizona State to his first year at LSU to finally settling in his second. Like all these guys, the benefit of transferring and or new supporting cast, upgraded supporting cast. This is the shot, man. And let's just transition to grade.

[Bucky Brooks]

You're.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm always going to allow you to be a little bit higher on sellers than me because you deserve it. But 93, I'm not telling you you're wrong. I gave him a 91 to put him with Arch, which is saying a lot, man. Yeah, I'm flying down. I'm flying down to Thibodeau, Louisiana, and being hosted by Archie Manning, his grandfather, and hanging out with the managers all week. I would never let one. I would never let one. I would never let that play into any evaluation. I'm just saying, like, I'm, I'm clo. I feel like I'm close to that situation.

[Bucky Brooks]

No, I would do it. I know you could.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's not in my, it's not in my DNA. But I'm saying, like, I see the path for, for Arch and I'm, I'm just as pumped to see. But, but right now, as an evaluator, I'm like, I'm, I'm wide open, man. Show me. Now you got Cam Coleman, Arch. Now you still got Stark. You kind of got past that first year of like, he's, he's the next Jesus of Nazareth. I'll make my second Jesus of Nazareth computer two in two shows. But like, all of that pressure, like, undue, you know, weight on his shoulders, he's kind of put that all behind him. He's playing loose and free. He's got Cam Coleman coming to town. He's still got started. I want to see what that looks like. And I'm pumped to see it, but I'm just as excited because I honestly, like, he's not six, four and a half and he's not. Well, he is about 236 pounds. They both are, they're both so supremely talented. I'm looking at this class right now, and we're just two episodes into the seven part series and Sorsby is like, now we gotta classify him differently. And we got to kind of deal with that situation as it comes. He's supremely talented, but we know all the things that could go on. All the concerns. We might not see Soresby, and I'm not saying because of suspension, we might not see sbe play any meaningful NFL time until 2028. Okay? So that, that's like a case in its own. But I'm telling you, through two, two parts of this series, four quarterbacks looked at. We got three guys, man, that are legit potential, like top 10 quarterbacks in the league. One day.

[Bucky Brooks]

What's the. The Caleb Williams Drake made Jaden Daniel. Jaden Daniel's class is 23, right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

20, 24.

[Bucky Brooks]

2024.

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[Bucky Brooks]

Thank you. I feel way better about this class than I did at that class at that point because Jaden Daniels hadn't even emerged yet and Drake May was. Well, we know. We kind of hope that Drake May, you know, could take the next step and all of that. This class where it is now, if these three guys are all out and declare it is. I mean, those three are incredible. I love Arch. I think he's really, you know, I gave him 91. I think sellers is. I think the tape is better. I think that Sellers is a more accurate passer than Arches right now. Sorry, I just.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't disagree. I don't necessarily disagree.

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[Bucky Brooks]

So, yeah, it's. It's fascinating. Any one of those three guys, though. Give me any one of the three.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Give me any one.

[Bucky Brooks]

Any one of the three.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm cool.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I kind of felt. I felt that way with Caleb, Drake and Jaden.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah. Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You got a nitpick. It's our job to rank.

[Host/Announcer]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's our job. But I promise you, like, I can have Jaden. Yeah, yeah. I get Caleb. Sure.

[Bucky Brooks]

I've got the third pick in the draft and I can get one of these three guys.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

And we haven't even gotten to the rest of this group. Next week we're gonna come back, we're gonna talk about the Manning passing Academy. Academy, what we saw there. And. And then after that, we're right back into. Into C.J. carr. Julian saying, two guys that's not. They're not like on a lot of top lists right now because they. They're the most likely of the two to come back for the 2026 season. But both of those guys showed first round ability last year for extended periods of time. There are some people in the league that I know that think CJ Carr is next. There's some people in the league that think that, that, that there's a lot of Drew Brees in saying there's some

[Bucky Brooks]

good CJ car tape, man. There are some really good CJcard tape.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There's just as much, if not more really good Julian saying, I agree.

[Bucky Brooks]

I agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Now he's on so. And that does. And again, I mentioned a bunch of other names on that list too that we haven't even talked about.

[Bucky Brooks]

Quick question.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Master Maker Mensa. Oh, Sam Levitt with kids.

[Guest Analyst]

Yes.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You were missing one.

[Bucky Brooks]

Quick question.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Ava Imaliava. Matir like, just keep rattling off.

[Bucky Brooks]

I got a question. Answer my question.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes.

[Bucky Brooks]

Are you bringing the beautiful new bride to the Manning Academy again this year?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm actually not. We had. We had a twist, a change circumstances. AJ, her oldest is. Is 16 years old. He's. He's. He's a counselor.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

He's got two days of. He's devastated. I feel horrible. I was bringing the whole crew down. I was bringing all sorts.

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[Bucky Brooks]

What's he got two days of, though?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Two days of training that he can't miss or else he doesn't get this job. And then Mia is an eighth grader. She's graduating, and they have some big event. So, like, it just didn't work out. So Marisa staying back with. With the three other kids. I'm bringing Tate down. Tate's getting credentialed.

[Bucky Brooks]

Here we go.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And. And he's gonna have to rough it. He's. He's an Irish.

[Bucky Brooks]

Steal my job. I know what's happening.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The writings on the wall northeast and the writings on the wall. And it's going to be interesting watching him in 92 to 96 degree heat with 80. 80 to 95 humidity. I'm just gonna watch his. Those. Those chunky cheeks just melt. Take it easy. But no, I wanted.

[Bucky Brooks]

I was gonna add another pod to the schedule where we get a. A comparison of Italy in your honeymoon to Thibodeau, Louisiana, and see the culture shock that Marissa was going to go through if she. She made this trip. I was fascinated. I wanted to bring her on and get her take on what the differences were.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, she. She went last year, and so she's. She's well aware. We had a blast last year. It's a. It's just.

[Bucky Brooks]

I know.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Listen, she's not a football.

[Bucky Brooks]

She.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

She appreciates it. She grew up in the South. She's Clemson. She's, you know.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

She loved the tailgating, the. All of the stuff that makes college football beautiful. She loves and gets it. Like, the football stuff. She's just like, yeah, as you well know. I'll let you and men handle that. But she was like, almost in. I don't want to say. I don't want to oversell, but, like, was, like, almost emotional watching that Friday Night Lights and seeing, like, me on the field and how much I like. I just. I. I just eat it up, man. It's like the purest thing left in this game to see all these. These counselors who are going to be NFL draft picks, the top quarterbacks in the, in the entire country after spending like 8 to 10 hours teaching young quarterbacks how to improve their game and the impact they're having on these 6th graders to 12th graders. Right? And then they get their chance to shine at night and be loose and free and the lights come on and they're competing against one another and you watch all those, those kids who are, who were the focus all day long, go sit in the stands, a couple thousand of them with families and friends coming in. It was Friday. It was, it was Field of Dreams, man. It's Field of Dreams. And there's not, there's no cameras, there's no like. And I've already gotten texts from some people that I'm like, oh no, I feel like I, maybe we gave it too much publicity last year and now all of a sudden talking to some friends who work for the big companies and I'm worried that we're all of a sudden going to have all that. But you ruined it.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I do want to make mention a former colleague of ours, Matt Miller, had a devastating car crash and I can't imagine what he and his family are going through. I know he has children, wife, and it's like, you know, whether we work together, don't work together, there is a community of people who have, who have some level of mutual respect and to hear what he has gone through, you know, our, our prayers and thoughts are with him and his family and obviously wish nothing but the best and the speediest recovery for him. And so I, I do think it's important for us to, to make a quick mention of that because that's like I can't even imagine, you know.

[Bucky Brooks]

Yeah, I'm glad you did. I've been thinking about him. It's, it is a, it seems to be a really tough situation. You know, it's tough to read into it. It seems like he's handling it as well as anyone could based on what he said. But I mean it's, it's tough. And thinking about him.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. So on that note, we'll be back next week. Can't wait to share the Manning passing academy and what we find and just tell some stories and I'll get a lot of videos and pictures and do my best to try to share everything that goes on there without being that guy. And then it's right back into CJ Carr Julian saying in this seven part series will continue with building the board the 2027 quarterback class mensch as always. Five, five stars to you my brother.

[Bucky Brooks]

Thanks man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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