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All right. You know what I do know? There's a hundred. There's 112 days remaining until the NFL draft. Tell us now. Men. You good?
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I'm great, man.
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Roll our favorite beat. Tuck. The. 39, 34. That's how it finishes. Got a little out of hand at the end. Alls well that ends well. Don't ask Georgia fans, though. Trinidad Chambliss now becomes the story of the College football playoff. The McShay show is presented by FanDuel. FanDuel's got it all. Same game parlays, quick bets for jumping in live and your way so you can build the bet that fits your play. Plus, don't miss out on all the action during the rest of the college football playoffs. Download the FanDuel app or head to FanDuel.com McShay to get started, must be 21 and older in present select states or 18 and older and present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler or visit RG D help.com call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut, it was Fernando Mendoza. It was Dante Moore. It was Carson back. Can he play? Geor Trinidad Chambliss, Division 2 quarterback, now takes Ole Miss sons Lane Kiffin.
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To.
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The semifinals of the College Football Playoff and knocks off Georgia, the only team that had beaten Chambliss and Ole Miss this year in a game where Chambliss actually melted down in the fourth quarter, you could see it in his eyes. And to get this redemption against that opponent, it's. It's special. And then the story. And then Pete Golding watching him now, talking to Molly McGrath like, you're right, man. We're going to have to bring the production crew back down to the Grove and we're going to have to make the second major motion picture of what's going on. Now. We've got underdog Miami, which legit could win this thing. Underdog Ole Miss, which legit could win this thing. Indiana, which looks unbeatable, but we know they're not. And Oregon, which is just kind of sneaking around the chicken coop a little bit, right?
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So Ole Miss or Miami is going to be in. In the final. Like we know that.
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What? That's.
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Never would have thought it going in. And that's what's great about this.
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Shout out to our friends at FanDuel. By the way, what are the spreads right now? Tell me who's favorite, Miami or Ole Miss?
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I didn't see it. I know he's put it up.
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Good. I saw it. So. So go ahead.
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Oh, whose favorite? Miami or Ole Miss?
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Yeah. And by how many points? If you're. If you're on the chat right now, guess with us. Miami two and a half.
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Miami two and a half.
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Okay. All right. I'm just going to pause for effect so everyone in the chat can get involved as well. The other game, Oregon versus Indiana. Who's favored? I think we both know.
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I would guess Indiana by four and a half.
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Not bad, men. You're close. Amir Turnage says Miami minus two and a half. MLS reach Miami by three. Atb, You're. You're dead wrong. MLS wheat. You got closer. Tony. Tony B. 23 guesses. Miami minus three and a half. Put them up again, Tuck. Is that what it was? Is it Miami minus three and a half or is it Ole Miss minus three and a half? I know Indiana was minus three and a half as well. Miami minus three and a half against Ole Miss. That's a six versus ten seed. Yep.
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And.
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And not last year's where the seating was messed up. And it's a five versus one seed. Oregon. Indiana. The Peach Bowl, January 9th. We will be live with you here. You see our brackets. We will be live with you for each of those games. What is that next? Thursday and Friday night?
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Yes, Friday and Saturday. Is that Friday and Saturday, I think.
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Get your calendars up.
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Yeah, I mean Thursday and Friday.
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So Thursday night and Friday night you'll be with us. Come hang live with us. We're fired up.
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You just.
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You went.
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You muted the mic again. There it is.
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I can't stand our new equipment and situation. Your Tucker knows it.
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I knew you were gonna have a problem.
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Two wonderful employees coming that are gonna try again from New York City tomorrow because they. They didn't muck anything up. A piece wasn't here. I've got an old camera with new stuff. I've got a mic that's. That's sensitive. And you know how I talk with my hands. That's going to be a lifetime problem.
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Okay, no problems on my end. That's fine. It's just weird. No problem.
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Well, of course not, sweetheart. Everyone loves you. I'm the pain in the ass. You look beautiful. You get depth to your shot. You get a little bit blur. It looks dramatic. It looks like we're. Like when I used to do features for game day. That's how it would look like. Oh, and I'm just sitting here kind of like. It's like I only. I only Paid half my electricity bill and I got a mic that's tapping, and now I got two computers instead of one. And I'm pissed. But the show's got to go on. Who's winning the natty is the poll that we got up on the show right now. Indiana, Oregon, Miami, Ole Miss. But let's get to the games. And that's why we're all here, right? Let's get to the games. Let's go back to last night. Miami 24, Ohio State 14. Let's just start it with I told you so. And by the way, had any to me. And thank you, fanduel, but our friends at Fanduel like the best partnership in the world. Like they, like from day one, they have been here. They put the lights on, they paid the bills. So we know it's not the electrical bills. The fact that they're getting us fanduel odds right away for next week is. Is awesome. And. And if you were following this show and you were listening to Uncle Todd a week ago, you would have heard. No, two weeks ago, like 20 something days ago. Put it. I had my chart. I had my little chart, right? All the snaps that Steve Stanford. Steve made fun of me. Men, they're giggling at me on a. On a text thread like I'm not there. How many. How many starts is Trinidad Chambers get? Do you get like 0.3 a start for. For division two?
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I thought it was a good question. I thought it was a fair question. I mean, we're trying to figure out exactly what.
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You did a whole show on the quarterback confidence index, and I came to you and said, carson Beck, don't sleep on it. Look at, look at last year. Leonard Riley, Ohio State. What quarterback of Ohio State last year.
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Is a Pittsburgh Riley Leonard.
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Yeah. No, no, Riley Leonard, but for Ohio State. Mensch.
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Oh, sorry. Will Howard.
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Will Howard. Thank you. Two, two, two. Outside of Dylan Gabriel, the two most experienced quarterbacks in there with a good defense, Carson Beck, 2,881 snaps coming into the playoff match. Do you care about that number now?
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Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Right? You took Gunner Stockton ahead of Carson back in that draft. Just to be clear.
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And by the way, I shouldn't have.
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I love when you admit you're wrong. You're just a big man. I like that.
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Anyway, my point is, had Miami FanDuel at the time, it was plus. It was plus 700 to get to the semifinals and they come out. Miami's defense, quite honestly, was the story that's the most vicious and violent display of defense that I've seen in college football all year. I've seen great defense. I saw Ohio State in several games, including Texas, to start the season. I saw them smother. I know statistically that Ohio State defense is the best defense in college football the last 14 years.
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Statistically, statistically, yes.
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The best defense on that field, bar none, was Miami's Ruben Bane. Reuben Bain was Bane the Bull.
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Yep.
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He was awesome. And I know he finished with one sack. He and Mesador finished with three sacks together. But Bane finished. I looked up his stats. I think it was two tackles, one sack.
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It felt like setting the edge. He was insane edge.
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He was like he funneled everything to everyone else. And he disrupted Julian saying, especially in the first half of that game. But then again, in the fourth quarter, I do give credit to Julian saying, I thought in the third quarter to come back for it was an abysmal first half and to bounce back from that and come out in the third quarter and play the way that he did against that defense. He was 9 of 9 to start the second half, really settled down, finished 22 of 35, 287 yards and a touchdown. But he had the two interceptions right.
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The back, the back breaker, pick six. I really felt like. And it was early, but it was. It felt. It felt like that was just going to be a monumental play in that game. And it was.
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And. And if it wasn't Bane, it was Messador. If it wasn't Messador, it was Bane. And if it wasn't those guys, it was Keonte Scott, it was Jacoby Thomas.
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Like, both those guys had monster games. Torre, the linebacker, Tory, was awesome.
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And I mean, Leslie Besaint was good, but normally he's the one making a lot of plays. Torrey kind of stepped into that role and it. You know what? I was. I actually went to a. Like a friend's house and Cal, Uncle Cal, you know, Cal.
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Yeah, nice.
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He was there and there were a couple other guys. We were watching the game last night and. And Cal hadn't watched a lot of Miami this year. He'd seen a little bit, but he was like, I know Ohio State's the best defense like they're talking about for a decade, but, you know, and I was like, watch Miami tonight. And they, they came. I was like, I want you to watch how every single time a tackle is made, how many white jerseys are.
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Around.
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Was like 5, 6, 7. And then I told him the story about our. Our favorite defensive coordinator.
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He's unbelievable. He was unbelievable last night. He's been unbelievable all year.
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All year. Dialing it up, knowing when to dial it up. I mean he had. I thought this was interesting. I want to get your take on this heartline. Brian Hartline takes the head coaching job at ucf. He's been calling plays all year long. Ryan Day who's. Who was Chip calling plays with for Chip Kelly, you know has been with him since the unh days with Urban all of it had given the play calling duty to Brian Hartline. But Ryan Day is known as one of the great play callers in college football.
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He.
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He makes the executive decision understandably so I think at the time of you can't like the transfer. You're taking this head head job at UCF. High school recruiting starts in like two days. The recruiting window and then the transfer portal is January 2nd. He's still on the staff, still on the sideline, still a part of all of it. But Ryan Day takes play calling back. What, what, what did you think of that and what did you see in game?
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I thought they were the thing that really jumped out to me when I look back at it was 11 carries for Bo Jackson and I know they weren't running the ball well. But you, you cannot I think he would even admit going back you've got to run the ball with Bo Jackson more than that most talented running back in the. In the College Football Playoff in my opinion. And there's some really talented backs gotta run the ball more than that and put your quarterback in a tougher in a. In a better place. I mean Jeremiah Smith went off mean Jeremiah smith was had seven for 157 and a touchdown. An absolute monster game. Getting the ball to Jeremiah Smith wasn't the issue. They didn't run the ball like they have in the past. And I thought that's where maybe he wasn't on top of his game as much as he would would be. And he is. I do think there's a rhythm to it though, man. And you see this in games with great play callers like with Sark, with Kiffin, with Day, when they start to get on these runs and they start to figure out you're. They're probing, right. They come out with a script and then they were like well what are you going to do? I know that you've this coverage against this look all year but you might do something different in this game to throw us off. But as soon as I figure out what you're doing then I'm going To counter with something. And I do think there's a rhythm to that. I think there's, you know, you have to be doing it for a little while. As good, I mean, as good as Day is. And I do think it will. I honestly do believe, I think it's a great point that you make. I honestly do believe that it, it played a role.
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I did too. But you know what I thought played a much bigger role. Ohio State has always had this. This, not always under Ryan Day. I feel like this. Manifesting that we're the tough team from the block, we're up the up north team from Ohio State trying to manifest.
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It.
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Trying to tell everyone that we're the, you know, and they stopped having to tell everyone after they win the national championship. And they did bully some teams around, right?
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And they ran the team last year.
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Did with Trayvon Henderson and Quin, Sean Judkins behind that offensive line that had been retooled because of the left tackle injury and all the stuff. But what had kind of gone unnoticed this year and we saw late in the season they started running the ball. Bo Jackson started becoming a bigger part. They beat Michigan. Right. Everything's fine. But what, I don't, I, I don't think enough red flags went up in that Big Ten championship game because everyone just rightfully so. Indiana's been so damn good defensively and they're so physical that they kind of got pushed around a little bit in that game at moments.
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Yeah.
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Miami bullied the hell out of Ohio State, period.
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On both sides of the ball, by the way.
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Both sides of the ball. And especially on defense, they were more physical. They brought the fight to them and they abandoned the run because. Because they're tough guys up front, weren't so tough. They weren't so strong. They weren't, they weren't matching hatchets with hatchets. Yeah, I thought that was the big difference.
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We talked all year about that, that Ohio State defense, how good they were. But we also said, you know, who have they played? Who have they played? And then they played pretty well against Mendoza in Indiana. I mean, they weren't the problem in that game. They played, you know, pretty well in that game. Their legacy, the legacy of that defense was damaged severely last night by the fact that they weren't even the best defense on the field. And then think about this, McShay. Five minutes and fifty seconds left in that game. It is a three point game. Miami goes on a ten play, five minute drive, eight runs out of the ten plays to seal the game.
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Bullying.
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Like, I mean, when you.
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If you're going to be one of.
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The best defenses ever to play college football, that cannot happen in one of the biggest games. If that happens in the middle of the year and they don't lose or whatever is like that. You know, you question some things. You cannot be one of the greatest defenses of all time and have that happen to you in a playoff game. I'm sorry, I just. You can't. And I think that. And not only that, there was a glaring difference in. Kaden McDonald, the. The defensive tackle for Ohio State is awesome. And he really showed up at times last he did. But the edges between.
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The.
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The. The difference in the edges for Ohio State and for Miami was glaring. It wasn't even close. They're not even in the same conversation. I mean. I mean, Bane and Mesador were outrageous how good they were. And by the way, they never come off the field. They look gassed at times, but they were. They never. They never came off the field. So, I mean, I thought it was an unbelievable performance in terms of their effort as well. Do we lose?
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McShay?
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Is he gone?
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Can you hear me now?
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I can. Yeah. Yeah. You know the panic that was setting in?
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No, it wasn't panic. It was for. For me, frozen. Oh, the panic for you? Yeah.
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I mean, you're often gone.
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But that was somebody recently. I'm like, men. Men should just handle it. And I was.
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He would.
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But it would be traumatic. Like, he'd. He'd save the baby from the burning building, but he'd be in therapy for 20 years. In the ringer, Spotify would have to chip in for some therapy.
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The amount of snaps those two guys played, outrageous. I mean, they were just. There was one time, I think, you know, they had to rotate amount of times, obviously, but there was a. The drive, I think, at the end of the first half maybe, where Ohio State moved the ball a little bit and you could just tell how tired they were because they just again, empty the tank on every single play that they're on the field. There is no. Well, I gotta play 50, 60 snaps tonight, so I gotta manage my.
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No, my effort. They don't do it.
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They don't know how to do it. I don't think you could get them to do it if you asked them to do it.
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There was one play in the fourth quarter where I watched. It was like the fifth. It felt like the fifth time that Bane had rushed off the edge and giving full, maximum effort and chasing, and I was actually. It's. When I was another point where I was watching with, with Cal and healed and those. These guys and, and it was like when they, when the, the room finally started to realize that this 4cat is different, you know, and, and there. And he had just made a play and he came back and they showed a. An ISO on him and he's like, you know, he's like, yeah, he looks gas sucking wind. And then on next play, he reracks that son of a bitch, gets him up, flies around him, forces the quarterback out and then the ball. I think he tried to like swing it to the other side and then goes and chases and tries to like, that's. I was, I was like, bane the bull. This guy is El Dora. He's just, he's like a bully. Like picture like, you know, the bull running, just knocking people over. Doesn't need. Everyone bitches about short arms this, short arms that. We'll get to the NFL draft. I like. We'll talk about it. Fine. But we won't right now because.
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I cannot wait to get in. I cannot wait to talk about those two.
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Mess versus Bane. Right.
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It's going to turn into that and that. It's going to be a fun. That'll be a fun debate and conversation, but really shouldn't be those two. They're both, they're just both awesome. I can't wait to talk.
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They're both great football players.
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Yeah.
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They both bring different things to the table and my goodness, they complement each other so well. It's awesome to watch. And then there's. I do want to say this, speaking of NFL draft prospects. It's the first time all year. It reminded me a little bit of last year watching Cornell Tate, when we did the breakdown this summer is the first time all season that I was underwhelmed and in fact disappointed in Carnell Tate.
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I think he still might be banged up. I wonder what's going on with that, the whole situation.
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I would have to assume there were two catches that Carnell Tate, 20, 25, usually makes. The one that was over the middle where I promise you he didn't fully extend because he, because he felt the, the, the ghost around the, around the corner, you know.
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Yeah.
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And then there's another, another one along the sideline where it wasn't that, but he just didn't make a catch that he normally has made this year. But that, I mean, that. It wasn't even like the story, but it was just. I'll be interested to kind of get the scouting background. What's. What was Going on with him health wise because for such a phenomenal season, to see it end that way was disappointing for Carnell Tate. Now, positive side, there were three things that I took away. Okay. For Miami, just like notes that I want to get to. First of all, C.J. daniels. I did that article in the, the. The McShay Report. If Google it. Subscribe if you, if you feel inclined, would love to have you as a subscriber if you're not already. C.J. daniels is one of those guys that I think love in the NFL circles. He's a wide receiver for Miami.
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Sorry. Yep.
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And in scouting circles, there's a little bit more love and intrigue for CJ Daniels than there is like national, interesting awareness. I'm not saying he's going to be first second round pick. He's not. I probably not even third. But I think when we get to pick 100 in that like 120, I think he's going to come off the board. He's got measurables, he's got speed. I want to say he's like 6, 6 2, 6 3, over 200 pounds, clocked pretty high, like pretty low. Four four threes, maybe four, four. But it was good to see him back. It wasn't a huge game, but he had been nicked up towards the end of the season really like the second half of the season. And I, when I wrote the McShay report, kind of underrated prospects to watch for each of the 12 teams. Daniels was, was the guy for Miami and he, he had like, he came back from injury, didn't have a catch in one game and then he had, then there was two. But he had five catches for 49 yards and he. And two of them were really big catches. So it was good to see a guy who's kind of battled through it this year step up for, you know, in, in that big spot against that defense in those moments. The second thing is I just can't get enough of the Mark Fletcher story. Man. Yeah.
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So good. It's so good.
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Mario Cristobal refers to him like a pillar of the program player. Picture a pillar holding up a building. He's not the only one, although he's, he's the top one in terms of leadership, commitment followed by, you know, leading by example. People just follow what he does because they know, you know, if you want to do it the right way, follow junior, you know, follow Mark Fletcher junior. And he's junior to senior, whose senior passed away recently. And this young man still calls or send calls and Leaves a voice message to his deceased father before every game and leaves him a message like, melt, Right. Yeah.
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Unbelievable.
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And to see all that he's put into this program and to be this man to show his father while he was alive and now past that, that he's going to be the expectation and the bar that his dad set for him and to watch it come to because he's been always been a good player and he's always been a productive player. But when the chips have been all in on the table, man, late in the season, Fletcher's been the guy, you know, in the last two games in the college football playoffs, this pillar of the program, 36 carries, 262 yards, men. That's pretty awesome.
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Here's something else that it kind of ties into Crystal ball, too, because, you know, I've given him a lot of flack. Mario Chris, well, the head coach for Miami have given a lot of flack for some of his. His management, game time decisions, things. Fletcher fumbled early in that game.
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Yes.
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Some coaches might have gone away from him. They might have said, oh, man, we can't have that. You know, we're gonna go and we're gonna go with the. Just go in another direction. We're not going to go back to him. And they didn't. They stuck with them. They put their faith in him, and at the end of the game, he. I mean, he rewarded that faith by getting, I think, by getting Miami into the next round. I thought he was unbelievable on the last drive.
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Unbelievable.
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Eight times. But that's what's going on tonight. It's just an unbelievable round. So.
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And every time I. I kept feeling. I kept feeling like, man, they should run the ball more. They should run the ball more. Yeah. You know, because every funny gave him the ball. It was like. It was. It was six, seven yards. It felt like I could not understand.
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For the life of me this year why they weren't more effective running the ball. I loved Fletcher's tape from last year. I thought he was going to be better earlier this year. Coming into the season. Their offensive line is really good. I don't. I still don't understand why they weren't running the ball. But they found it at the right time. They have found their identity at the right time, which is, we're just going to line it up, we're going to run it right at you. We're going to play great defense. And then Carson Beck just needs to be a veteran, efficient quarterback who spreads the ball around like he did in this game. And takes care of the ball like he did in this game and makes the occasional play with his feet like he did in this game. That's exact. That is their recipe. And as long as they stick to it, they are talented enough to make this a run. And I know that this is the same Miami team. I want people to know. I know everyone's got the receipts on me. The same Miami team that I thought Notre Dame should have gone in, got in ahead of and I get that. But this is a team that's hitting its stride at the right time. I've always said they were talented. Earlier in the year I made the argument they should have been ranked number one.
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Yeah, you did.
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Aft before the wheels came off and they. All this inconsistent stuff started showing up. So they're. Again, it's about. This is what this playoff is, man. It's about hitting your stride at the right time. In Miami's doing it, which makes them dangerous. They're not. I still don't think they're the best team left, but they. They might be the most dangerous team in. In the tournament at this point.
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Here's my final of three points. Carson Beck is somehow improving his draft stock and his general image nationally throughout.
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The world, but for our purposes, internationally.
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Internationally, why not? Somehow he's improving his draft stock. And despite the fact he's thrown for 241 yards and two touchdowns in two College Football Playoff games, he's averaged 120 pass yards in two college football games with one touchdown. But somehow I'm okay with it. I am too. Somehow cares because you got to keep a little bit into perspective. These have been defensive games. The first one was at one of the most difficult. Excuse me. Venues in all of college football. College Station, Kyle Field, Texas A and M with gusting wins where neither quarterback could throw the football. Managed a game, didn't he? Fumbled once. I can't remember. Did he lose a fumble in the. In that game or not? He hasn't thrown an interception. Nope. Yeah, so. So he has not turned the football over in two games.
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Right.
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And he's under. I know we joke around about the 2,881 snaps and all the hoopla I gave to experienced quarterbacks in this tournament. And we now know I was right. And we now know I was right about Miami. So you and Stanford Steve can shut the fuck up.
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Never.
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Never. But tell me, all joking aside, tell me you don't see the experience in him.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Because there are throw. There is a couple throws last night where I'M watching. I'm like, you can say he's afraid to or why did he double clutch? Because. Because those 2,881 snaps that he's took, he took before the College Football Playoff. And the highs and the lows and the, all the, the stuff that went on in Georgia, all this stuff he's gone through has helped mold him into someone who understands actions have consequences. Yep. Whether it's Lamborghinis, Cavender twins, I just did it to get that, get, get your face to match that beautiful red hat that you were in. I love the new hat, by the way.
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Yeah, we're, we're trying new things, man. I love it. I'm open to feedback.
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New hat.
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B
Here we go.
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A
I'm getting frozen.
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B
Well, listen, listen. By the way, the numbers are better, but Mendoza threw for 192 today, and it's just a super efficient game. But not. He didn't throw for 300. He didn't run. He didn't run for 80. I mean, like, Mendoza had an awesome game.
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And guess what? Riley Leonard got Notre Dame to the national championship and was a fifth round draft pick. And, like, do you want to get passed over by a grandfather? But, like, he was in playing in an NFL game and fantasy game, or.
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B
You want to win the championship? Like, what do you. What are we doing here?
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A
And that was my point when you and Steve and everybody else was laughing about my. All the numbers. But, but honestly. But joking aside, there's something to it. Knowing, like, it's more important that I don't throw this ball or I throw this ball away because I got a defense that's just balling out on the other side and I get fletches back there, man, Junior's running the ball hard like, we're going to be okay. And there's wisdom that comes in all those snaps and all that experience. And I'm watching him now. Is it going to be enough against Ole Miss? If Ole Miss, if Trinidad plays lights out again, is it going to be enough? Does he have it in his tank? I'd like to think he does. Do they have the receivers? I don't know. C.J. played well. I told you that. We know Malachi. Tony's special. If he stops fumbling the ball he got away with.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
But they're, they're fascinating to me. And, and I, I just wanted to make that point. Like, as I'm watching Carson Beck throw for an average of 120the last two weeks, I'm gaining more respect for him.
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B
Yeah. I'm okay with it because winning football.
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Doesn'T always have to look like 250 to 300 plus yards throwing and ripping it around everywhere. In fact, winning football oftentimes is knowing what your role is inside that game. And his role the last two weeks is don't turn this ball over because we're. We're playing awesome on defense. We're turning it over from them. Let them make the mistake.
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B
Yep, I'm with you 100%.
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And I can't stop thinking about the feeling I'm going to have with Trinidad, Chambliss and Wallace and Stribling and Lacy and that offense going up against Bane and Mesador and Scott and Thomas and Torre and Be saint. That's going to be an awesome matchup.
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B
It is that Ole Miss offensive lines in for a day. That they are a day because they're big. They are big, but they are not. They're.
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A
They don't.
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B
That's going to be a good matchup for Miami. I think that's going to be interesting to watch.
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A
I don't think Lacy's going to get much going. I just don't so good.
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B
Yeah, we got to move on.
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A
We got a week. We got a week. Okay, next up, where's Chambliss on your board right now? I've said from the beginning, like if he doesn't get drafted, first of all, he's applying for a sixth year. Some right? Bryce NE A D E S662S. I might take a flyer on him late. Like his deep ball is beautiful. He's. He rips it. He's a gamer. I just, I like the way he carries himself. His intermediate stuff. Timing, anticipation. Like too many fastballs. Drilling it, but 1.
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B
Break some kids finger today.
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A
Yeah, I know. I thought, I thought he broke Wallace's finger on that throw. Wallace said he took himself out of the game trying to pull his finger out of the socket. The McShay show is brought to you by FanDuel. The field is down to the final four and every play now decides who moves on. The college football semifinals are here and with just two massive game days left before the championship, FanDuel is giving you something extra. That's right. All customers get a profit boost each college playoff semifinal game day. That means more chances to level up your pick and turn big moments into even bigger wins. Download the FanDuel app or head to FanDuel.com McShay to get started, must be 21 and older and present in select states or 18 and older and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable Profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including any token expiration and max wager amount. See terms@sportsbook.fanduel.com gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut. All right, next up, Rose Bowl. Man, what a statement. And I get it, it's not Nick Saban's Alabama, but yeah, I, I take this one. You start.
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B
I, I really feel like the Ohio State game, and I know Ohio State just lost, you know, they just lost their second in a row. I feel like the Ohio State game is more of a statement. Something's wrong in Tuscaloosa. Something is wrong with that Alabama team. They, you know, it's, it wasn't like we, I wasn't surprised. I just wasn't surprised. I mean, they got their doors blown off. Oh, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't surprised at all.
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A
Yeah, I was surprised. Here's what I was surprised by, quite honestly. I wasn't surprised by Mendoza. I wasn't surprised by a lot of things. I was surprised that Alabama imposed so much of their will that it, it looked like Alabama, the Indiana imposed so much of their, well, I don't know if I said it wrong that it looked like it looked like Alabama quit.
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B
It did.
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A
To say this is embarrassing and it looks like they're just going through the motion or they're just out there. I couldn't have agreed with them more though, man.
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B
I, I, I thought he was, it's a tough thing to say. You don't really want to say it. I mean, they, it got bad. I mean it was, it was embarrassing for them. And I want to speaker two of.
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A
Their last three outings. We've seen signs of that. Go ahead.
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B
What's your excuse now? I mean, what's your excuse? You didn't have 10 players out or whatever it was like. I want to start by saying that I think Indiana is an unbelievable football team. So when I say that, that I think that today's game was more about, said more about Alabama than Indiana. I want to be clear about what I'm saying there. I think Indiana is awesome. I want to nickname their, their linebackers the law firm Cardi, Fisher and Jones. I just think it sounds like a law firm and they are so freaking awesome. I just, I, I, they are unbelievable at how versatile, instinctive, tough they are, they didn't have Stephen Daly. The defensive line doesn't care today. They're just all over the place making plays. They're, they're sharp and, and pounds unbelievable corners. I, I love the Indiana team and then the offense, we can go on for days. This said, I already think they were awesome. So the fact that they, they, they played well didn't, didn't surprise me at all. But Alabama, there is something wrong. I mean Ty Simpson didn't look good early and then he fumbled and he looked hurt and it just seemed like they couldn't get anything going. The offensive line, they better figure out, I think the portal opens tomorrow. They better get some offensive lineman in Alabama like they, they. The offensive line, you have to be able to run the game the ball. And I don't think it's all on the backs. Like we've said it.
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Every single week we've said it. You have to be able to protect.
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Your quarterback who might be a first, an early first round draft pick if, if you can get him to play the way he was earlier in the year like this, this team is. Something's wrong and maybe all, maybe the only thing that's wrong is it an absolute legend has left the building. And it takes some time for you to get out of the shadow of that man, to get to a point where you can run your program. Because imagine if you're a player that was recruited by Nick Saban, played for Nick Saban and was competing in those games and now you're there and Kellen Dwar comes in and you're not maybe buying in. Because I think Deborah is a good coach.
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A
Everything we saw at Washington, we know he's a good coach. He's a great. Right. He's a great.
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B
I don't, I'm not sure it's a Deborah problem. I think it just might be this takes time.
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A
That this is. Sometimes there's, sometimes there's, there's fit issues.
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B
Yeah, that might be it too. I don't know what it is. That was not a competitive football team. That was out there. That was not a team.
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A
That team Notre Dame. And that's two of the last three games that we've seen Alabama put those helmets on. Yeah. Where we have, we have watched and said there's something wrong and, and it was not competitive and they were lacking. What we are so accustomed to seeing is even, even in a loss, Alabama is like they've laid it all on the field. And there's a certain level of discipline, commitment and a bar that is set of excellence. And I have not seen that in two of the last three games from Alabama. And it's interesting because had they lost to Oklahoma.
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B
Yep.
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A
Had they lost to Oklahoma, would Debore be in Michigan and not Whittingham?
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B
I think there's a very good chance that that's true. I mean, that's. There's. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And I. And as much as I like Whittingham, I mean, the Whittingham situation is interesting to me because I think. I don't know why Utah wanted to part ways with him, but that's what it's. It felt like. He said he didn't want to stay somewhere and overstay his welcome is basically what he said when he left there. And I. And that didn't make any sense to me. But I do think that DeBoer is a better candidate than winning him. When you. When you add it all up.
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A
Oh, there's so. Yes.
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B
Yes.
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A
So interesting. It's all interesting. But it's. But I.
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B
It was a.
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A
That. What's that?
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B
It was a depressing game other than the fact like it's great for. I mean and. And they made the. Reese and Herbie made a good point of saying like this is unbelievable that Indiana's in the Rose ball beating.
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A
I'm gonna get back to Indiana. I'm not just gonna gloss over and name a linebacker core law firm and think that that's okay for. For coverage on this.
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B
Can we. Can I ask you this?
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A
Yes.
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B
And forgive me, I know this. It's already late. This is a wacky question. Did you see Signetti before and after the game that he was wearing the windbreaker? No, I'm pretty sure he doesn't wear a T shirt under that thing like he was. The chest was hanging out, man. Like would. He was like zip the thing down. I'm.
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I'm pretty sure that would be. I'm re. Which is a. I'm watching Van Pelt.
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B
Right now, which is a wild move.
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A
He was just up in the podium. I want to see if I get a glimpse of what the hell you're talking about at 12:35am Eastern. No one else.
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B
No one else will get this. Well, Gary Horton used to do this.
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A
Yes. It would be so on brand. But an old school coach. Absolutely.
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B
RCF was an out big time today. It doesn't matter the score. RCF was.
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It's now hanging out, man. Well, the problem is not enough people on the Internet are watching our show yet. They'll come. But RCF was one of the all time great calls out of you. And, and now it's now his face. If you go anywhere, any social media platform threads, TWX, Instagram, it's all over. Someone did like 16 different posts throughout the game until he finally smiled. That's the story. The. And. And then the ray, the raised eyebrow. I can't even do it.
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B
Yep. The arse eyebrow.
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A
Yeah, yeah. Arch eyebrow, all of it. But the RCF is the best name. Resting Signetti face. I can't find it. But let's put it this way, I'd say it's 9010. He's not wearing a T shirt under that. We know, we know the, the, like the Al Lugan Bills, the Gary Hortons. Yeah, like the old school. They never have. So why is he going to change? Never anything underneath there. All right. Very important stuff we covered there.
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B
I'm sorry, that's just how my brain works. I saw it and was like, no way.
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A
You know, Ty Simpson was the leading rusher with 17 yards and he didn't even complete the game for Alabama. It was a joke.
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B
Same thing. Yeah.
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A
I do want to say a couple things though. Kalyn Black and Roman Hemby continue to be the two most overlooked underrated players in all of college football. And they complement each other perfectly. They run with the same passion and fire and like every carry is the most important carry of their lives. They combine for 33 carries, 188 yards, two touchdowns against Bama in the Rose Bowl. This is Indiana. A couple transfers, small school guys just did that. And they've been doing it all year long, but no one wants to pay attention to it. We got Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price. We got all like these. We had Judkins and Henderson last year. Why aren't we talking about them as Judkins and Henderson? Because they're not going to be first round top 50 draft picks. Hemby and Black have been absolutely phenomenal all season long. I don't know. Statistically, I know they've been better than the two at Penn State. They're going to be early draft picks.
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B
Yeah.
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Allen and Nicholas Singleton. Statistically, I don't know if you take Love and Prices numbers. I don't. Probably not. But my goodness, every single week we're Talking about these two and that offensive line, Hemi's what?
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B
He's got 918 yards, 5.2 yards per carry and Black has 799 yards and 5.6 yards per carry. It's Pretty freaking good. Yeah.
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He handed to either of them to get me five and a half.
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Yeah.
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So I wanted to give them some love. Then I wanted to say this. I went chips all in on Mendoza after Ohio State because I'd been waiting to see. And I also want people out there who are very serious about the NFL draft stuff. And I love that everyone who. Who is. I love that I'm not overlooking or glossing over any of the flaws. I do think pressure up the middle. I do think he's. He's fortunate to play in the system. There's a lot of first read, second read, take off. I see all those things. But I'm also seeing a man after going chips all in after Ohio State. And I don't care what version of Alabama showed up today. I'm talking about the handling of the Heisman, handling of your business. Knowing who you are as a human being. The preparation that goes into it. Comfortable in your own skin. Having answers to the test and then answers if the first answer doesn't all of it. The leadership by example. The toughness on the field. Taking that shot against Ohio State in the first play of the game. Bouncing right back. Everyone rallying around him. Sacked on two of the first three plays in this game. No problem. Do you ever see him wince or cower? Nah.
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B
Nope.
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A
So there's imperfections and we can get to it. I someone today was wrote this whole thesis or 13 paid reasons why he's gonna suck in the NFL. He's always in shotgun.
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B
That sounds like fun.
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A
Former NFL scout and there's some things in there. I agree with him. We've touched on him and there were reasons why I haven't gone all in. But I'm seeing a man who's ready. And I got news for you. Dante Moore is a better pure passer than him. Dante Moore does things with the football coming out of his hand that he doesn't do. Dante Moore throws a more catchable ball. Dante Moore leads and anticipates a lot of NFL throws. Dante Moore's got a chance to be absolutely special. And I also got news for you. If Dante Moore leaves early for the NFL draft, we're going to have a raging wild debate by the time we get to April. Is it Mendoza? Is it more who are the Raiders taken? Right.
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B
Yeah. I think it's a good, good. You have two good options there. I really think that I'm.
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A
But I'm telling you I'm seeing the maturation of a young boy who loved the game, who made a Lot of turnover worthy mistakes who was just kind of happy, go lucky and goofy and was trying to figure out the world to. This guy is now a man and he's carry the. The weight. Not the weight. It's not even the weight of the world. He's handled all the pressures with grace, with ease, with comfort and it hasn't changed his approach, his preparation, due diligence and who he is at all. One guy loses the Heisman and goes out and does the big. Oh my God, Pavia, you campaign right.
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B
I don't even start with that. I mean he's young. It's a mistake.
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A
But no, I'm just saying I think the thing with these quarterbacks sometimes is do they know who they are as a human? Are they ready for the mental grind? He is like beyond the mental grind is a. Is. I don't want to get put a percentage on it. But the mental grind of playing that position in that league with those pressures with an entire city and a fan base and the ownership and every. It's all on you, bud. And I'm seeing a young man who's growing into a man who's in my eyes seems to be a lot more ready to take that step. And you say Todd like that doesn't make Sense. He was 14 to 16, efficient, but 192 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. A good, a good day. There's just certain things that after 25 years of studying this like I'm seeing him grow up and he's now like he. Okay, he's ready. He's ready. And I wasn't saying that back at Iowa, even Oregon. Okay.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But how amazing is it? Like I think Dan sent a text to the, to our thread earlier. Popcorn. Like yeah, more. More.
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B
Yep.
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You know the rematch, the rematch with it all on the line. He just knocked and granted one team was way better than the other, but we talked about this was going to be a multi week NFL draft prospects, quarterbacks matchups. Right?
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B
Yep.
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A
He's just knocked Ty Simpson's ass out if we're looking at it that way.
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B
Yeah.
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A
The right way to look at it. But like. Right, I hear you now you got more coming in with all the confidence and his receivers look a little healthier. And let's get to Dante Moore now.
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B
Oh, did you see the, the Albert Beer beer tweet about the coaching job that Signetti has done calling it one of the greatest coaching jobs of all time.
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A
Yes. One other thing I want to mention. Okay. We're going to just transition. That's good. I like it. Way to be on top of it. Tucker. This is not hyperbole. What Kirk Signetti is doing is one of the greatest coaching jobs I've ever seen at any level of any sport. And I'll stand I'll stand by that even if they don't win this game. Albert Brewer sent that text out or post out on X I think it seemed like mid mid game today, right?
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B
Yep. He said yeah I think he said it doesn't matter if he loses this game.
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A
I this is not the show for it but I wanted to bring it up because I have some of those same thoughts like has is there ever been a a better coaching job in a in this short of a Spanish? I want people to understand this and like and people talk about that's the winningest program of college. I don't care because that that program they played today wasn't the winningest program but yeah it was pretty cool to see Indiana who depending on who's what stats you read SEC they the second most or the most losses in college football history and obviously the the the record books are all over the place with college football but either the most or the second most losses in college football history as a program and we've all seen all the numbers their win percentage before or after all of it. But it feels like here's the difference because, because I started to think and I was actually looking not not a Breer's thread. There was there were some other comments like that and I was trying to get some context like Schnellenberg. I was I was born in 77 so I wasn't alive to see pre Schnellenberger Schnellenberg Miami Burger Miami.
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B
Right.
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A
I do remember having a VHS tape of his and something about playing quarterback when I was a little kid. But that's some people were saying that's that is maybe anapt comparison Belichick2001 get out of here man. Because the Patriots sucked and I grew up a Patriots fan and they were really bad and there were there were times where people with the bags in there, you know the the grocery bags over their heads cut out the eyes miserable in old Foxborough Stadium. But before Belichick there was Parcells and Parcels had kind of shown an organization despite all the feuding with the Crafts and all there's a way to win. Stop it. Stop it. They went to the Super Bowl.
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B
I don't care that they went to the Super Bowl. The fact that Bill Belichick came in after not being after getting Run out of Cleveland. After getting run out of Cleveland, then it has to make a decision about this is all world quarterback Drew Bledsoe and whether or not to put him back in the lineup after he comes back from getting hurt or play this kid who barely played at Michigan.
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A
But Tom Brady was more responsible for the success in New England for 20 years than Bella for 20 years. Sure. Sure.
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B
He was. He. What do you want to do? What? Do you want to put a number on it? 60, 40? What?
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A
Put a number on it.
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B
Don't tell me that the Belichick coach.
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A
He did it with especially that Roark last year and a bunch of transfers.
- [53:33]
B
He lost to Notre Dame in the first round with Curtis Rohr.
- [53:36]
A
But they got. Oh, my gosh.
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B
You're.
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A
You're gonna say Belichick's. The job Belichick did in New England was better than what Signetti's doing here.
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B
A thousand percent.
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A
We'll see.
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B
The jury's still out. The jury is still out.
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A
Belichick wasn't even responsible. Belichick wasn't even. He wasn't. He wasn't the most hushed.
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B
You're saying. You're saying that.
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A
I'm saying next year when they grab a transfer portal guy. Wow. I'm saying that they're still going to be winning.
- [54:05]
B
Wow.
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A
Brady left, I think, won a Super bowl in Tampa. I under.
- [54:12]
B
That doesn't like. So what.
- [54:14]
A
Oh, my God. You're telling me that I don't want to make. You're telling me.
- [54:17]
B
Hold on, we can do this another time, but you're telling me.
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A
Pick.
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B
Pick one other head coach that you like in the NFL right now, here, tell me if Sean McVeigh was the. The head coach of those Patriots that he wouldn't won those Super Bowls in the early 2000s with.
- [54:30]
A
With Brady.
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B
With Brady, who wasn't Brady at the time, against Kurt Warner. One of the greatest Super. One of the greatest defense.
- [54:39]
A
The Patriots went to the Super Bowl. When we were in college, when we were sophomores in college, he won a Super bowl, graduated in 90. That was like 97. They went. We graduated in 99. Two years later, they go the Super Bowl. So we're talking five years earlier, they were in the Super Bowl. What are you talking about? Did you know the last time Indiana went to The Rose Bowl? 57 years ago.
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B
Awesome. Can you take one second and listen to me?
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A
No.
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B
One a Super bowl and then one, two out of the next three. So he won three Super Bowls. Kurt Signetti is doing something amazing in Indiana, Something incredible in Indiana. He has not even gotten close to where Bill Belichick got. He hasn't gotten there yet.
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A
You're playing the longevity game because. Because I'm just saying this transformation of a program in two years in two years is completely different than a transformation of a program that just five years earlier.
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B
So you're making a slightly more nuanced argument and I understand that argument better. I wouldn'. Compare. You can't compare him to a pro then because it's apples and oranges. And the other thing you can't really compare them to is anyone who was before the portal. You can't really do that. The one of the reasons he's been able to turn it. And this is to his credit, I thought about this because I said when we were asked about this in the.
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A
They didn't have the resources.
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B
They're.
- [55:59]
A
They're portaling from JMU and like.
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B
I understand and I'm going to get into it in a second. Okay. I'm going to get into all that. I'm going to talk about that. You need the portal to do what he's done in Indiana. Now to Signetti's credit, he's used the portal better than anyone else at evaluating players that aren't necessarily four or five star guys and bringing them in because they fit his system and he knows that they're going to work on his team. But if you can't, if you, if Kurt Signetti goes to Indiana and he can't bring in guys to the portal that can play immediately, if he can't bring in a Fernando Mendoza or Curtis Rourke to play right away, they're not as successful as they are. Despite the fact that he's an unbelievable coach. Despite the fact that that is true.
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A
He's. Belichick was allowed to hit free agency and get a bunch of mid level free agents which is how he turned things around there are you.
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B
Do you understand you. I know you know better. I know you know it's a lot harder to win at the NFL level than it is to win in college. I know you know that. I know you know that. It is so hard to win in the NFL compared to winning.
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A
Okay.
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B
If you're softest schedule. If you're in the Big Ten last year. Sorry. I'm sorry. Like you, you, you muted yourself again.
- [57:17]
A
I shouldn't even tell you this. I'm not doing a show on Monday. We got the mock draft show coming up on Monday. I'm not doing it unless it's all.
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B
Oh, get a mock.
- [57:28]
A
Nice. I've got. I've got three computers. I got wires everywhere. I got a. Am I muted? Am I muted?
- [57:38]
B
You're good now.
- [57:40]
A
Nothing drives me crazier in life than people when. When it's. Something's trying to be better and they make it worse.
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B
What do you mean?
- [57:48]
A
Nothing. Oh, you're such a grump with this stuff. I am.
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B
I know.
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A
Yeah, dude, I, I hear you.
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B
We've made.
- [58:01]
A
We've made our arguments and I'm not. And I want you to understand. Hey, I got a lot of people telling me that Leicester City In England, the 2015. Google it. Yes, Google that. What about.
- [58:11]
B
Have you seen Miracle lately? What about Herb brooks of the 1980American hockey team, man. How about that? How about that for a coaching job?
- [58:20]
A
You're absurd.
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B
I couldn't wait to. I could not wait to her Brooks.
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A
I did want to mention this about Mendoza. Alabama blitzed him a season high 12 times today. He was 8 for 8 for 161 yards and three touchdowns with five or more pass rushers coming at him. First quarterback with three passing touchdowns versus the Alabama blitz since Johnny Manzel upset him in 2013. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.
- [58:57]
B
It was. It was unbelievable. Here's the thing.
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A
He made it look easy today, man.
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B
Here's the thing that's so tricky with him. And I. If I'm Oregon, I'm not blitzing him, but Iowa really pressured him. Iowa brought the house.
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Pressure him up the middle is the way to beat him.
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And almost won that. They almost won that game until it burned them and they lost.
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Yeah.
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Because they went to it one too many times and that's really what happened. So yeah, I, I be very careful about when you mix it in. Obviously you want to mix in looks and you want to throw different things at him. Be very careful about when you blitz Fernando Mendoza.
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Yeah. Your boy Omari. Omari Washington. Right. He's gonna have to have a big. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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He's gonna have to have a bigger game than he did the first time around.
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B
Oh, here we go. Here we go.
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Texas Tech, Oregon. Oregon. 123 nothing. Let's get out of here.
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Hell of a year for Texas Tech. Nothing to be in that defensive line.
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And David Bailey part man. Oh, David Bailey so hard.
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Jacob Rodriguez played so they all.
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Both those guys. I I Bailey with the multiple past breakups to combine. They had 14 heightened Bailey. This is two NFL prospects. Bailey's going to be top 20 pick is my guess. 14 combined tackles, two sacks and all the past breakups they had. They did their part but it was. Here's the deal. In that game, they had six plays. Texas Tech did in the entire first quarter. I don't care how good you are. I don't care how much money the Elmat Door Club has. I don't care how deep you are. It doesn't matter if you're the 85 bears if you gotta. If you're on defense, on the field too long, the best of the best will wear down. And they wore down. I thought Dan Lanning, with the two. Two coaches with fake punts today with just onions. Kirby Smart, it worked out, but it didn't result in winning the game. Dan Lanning, it worked out and it was kind of a momentum shift. It was three nothing at that point. But the offense was sputtering and they needed a spark and Lanning provided that. I thought that that was impressive. It put. It put Texas Tech back on the field. It was very much an emphasis of what? We're going to wear them down.
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Yeah.
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A
And it worked, right? One thing that.
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The only one thing that worried me about landing today was just this. The one thing was all the fourth downs. You gotta kind of adjust to this situation. Take the points, man. Like your defense is playing that well. There were a couple times, or at least one time when they ran that fourth down play where they rolled more to the right. And he's almost lucky that David Bailey swatted it down because I don't know where it was going. Kick the field goal there, man. Take the three there and play. Play it. The way the game's unfolding, your defense is in complete control. Just get the points.
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It was clearly an emphasis. It was a stats analysis. I'm sure the analytics. I'm sure something in those. The Oregon labs out there with Phil Knight and all the. They clearly was the emphasis. And. And by the way, it worked. I know in that moment it was different from what. What I'm talking about here. And I understand, I was with you, but it. It is what it is. Oregon had the ball 22 and a half minutes compared to seven and a half minutes in the first half. It just wore him down. I do want to say I thought the vast majority of it. Dante Moore was brilliant. He's playing the best ball.
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The first third down for Oregon, he made a layered throw over the middle, and it was right over the linebacker. And I was like, man, if that's not an NFL throw, I don't know what is. It was an unbelievable play.
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Dante Moore was awesome early in the year. And then there was this period of time that coincided, and I'm not blaming it all on the wide receivers getting injured, but it coincided with some injuries. But the cool part of where Dante Moore is now, it doesn't matter what human being is wearing a Duck's helmet. Do you know he completed passes to 11 different ducks today?
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11.
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Two here, three here. You get four, you get one, you get one, you get two, you get, you know, like 22. What do you have? 26 completions to 11 different receivers. This isn't the Jacori anymore show anymore.
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He got roughed up, man. I mean, he was getting. I mean, there's a couple. One I remember one he tried to spin out of it, and he spun back into a sack and got. I mean, clobbered.
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But when I watch his game, it's so pure NFL, right? It's. Yes, it's. It's ball out on time, anticipation, leading receivers two spots, but doing it like you said, layering it. The most catchable ball in the entire country. Receivers are catching like pillows. Like, it just. He knows when to throw the defenders their back turn. He's putting the ball up, letting receivers go, make plays in the ball. He's just the best pure passer in the country, and he's playing the best ball of his career right now. And we thought that best ball was early in the season. And then we thought it was time to come back to school. You're not ready, kid. And now I'm watching him being like, I still want you to come back for your sake. Doesn't matter to me. I got plenty of quarterbacks in 2027 to talk about. Doesn't matter. In fact, you want to make my life easier and Mench's life easier. And anyone who works in this industry of the NFL draft, when we wrap this thing up in a couple weeks in college football, for the next four months, we are NFL draft all day, every day, tape, mock drafts, rankings, all of it. You want to make our lives better and more interesting? Come into this class. Yeah, but now I'm watching a guy where I'm like, maybe the right thing could be to come into this class. Even though I think the long term, the right thing is probably to go back to another year of school. But he's more ready than I thought he would be, especially given the limited number of starts and especially given the kind of lull in the middle of the season that he had. And you know the best part about all this stuff, man? The two best quarterbacks in the country, the two top NFL draft prospects at quarterback. The two guys that are playing the best ball right now, Dante Moore, Fernando Mendoza, are going head to head in just over a week. And I'm pumped.
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Can't wait.
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I can't wait. And even though you had the most ludicrous. And by the way, we're back. We're doing a mock draft Sunday night.
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B
What do you mean, by the way? Are we. We're doing a show Sunday night.
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A
Late Sunday night. I'll text you. Might be midnight. I don't care because our mock draft's coming out before everybody else's. I've had enough.
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B
And we get to make the rules late Sunday night.
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A
Yeah. So we'll be out before get up or whatever because everyone does a mock draft after week 18 and ours is going to be out earliest. And by the way, just going to be the best. Okay. If it wasn't for your asinine comments about Belichick, dude, I'm getting some hate.
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B
I think someone said you need a new co host after that take.
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I do. But his set's too beautiful. His hat's so too great. He's got that smile and that laugh. So we'll keep him around. And you know what? I'll give him five stars, too. Thanks, everyone, for being here. Five stars to you, too. Must be 21 plus and present in select states. For Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18+ and present in D.C. gambling problem, call 1-800- GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New York.