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Georgia Topples Tennessee, Oregon's Close Call, and Travis Hunter’s Historic Heisman Case. Plus: A Texas Temperature Check
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Todd McShay
The McShay show is presented by FanDuel. College Football Saturdays are packed with action and FanDuel is where you can score every game day. Let's face it, November is everything in college football. The playoff picture is starting to become more clear. This is the first year with the 12 team playoff and we have some critical matchups throughout this month. Why we love FanDuel. There's so many markets like spreads over unders, national championship futures going to get a part of that and so much more. This app is safe, secure and easy to use. When you win, you'll get paid instantly. Visit FanDuel.com McShay to download America's number one sportsbook. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and help lines available and listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Must be 21 and older and present in select states. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit RGH help.com turned out to be a fun week 12 of college football. Man. It always is, right? No matter what happens. Yeah, I thought we're gonna have some, some upsets with some scares today, right? Yeah, scares. Oregon, number one team in the country in a dog fight in the fourth quarter. Escape.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
Johnson. Texas escapes kind of an ugly game against Arkansas. Clemson escapes against Pit. Didn't do anything in the second half till that 50 yard club nick run. South Carolina escapes with Missouri, tough game. And SMU escapes with Boston College. But the big game of the day and it. Oh, I mean, last week we came on live, right? We came on live and we had the Alabama LSU game and it was a dog. Right, Right. Some great upsets earlier in the day. A lot to talk about. But tonight we come on Live on YouTube and we got a great game to talk about. Yeah, go ahead.
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Mitch Sherman
Ended up being 14 points, but it was a lot closer than that, I thought.
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Todd McShay
Ah. So let's start here.
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Mitch Sherman
All right. I know, I know this is coming. Go ahead.
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Todd McShay
Let's get the important stuff out of the way. Here we go. Hey, fanduel AFD Sportsbook at FD Sportsbook. Take that ten and a half points and shove it right.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
How beautiful is. How beautiful though is. Is fanduel.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
I mean that spread was hanging in the balance the whole night. I was nervous the whole time. George is dominating the second half. At first I was like, we're down 10 nothing and now you're making mention all night. And then, and then the over under 48 and a half unreal. 31 17.
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Mitch Sherman
How do they know?
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Todd McShay
I don't know, but they do. But, you know, like, so we're in this new relationship with FanDuel, right? And they're. They sponsor our show. We need them. We love them. Right. We're here to work together. But it's like that brother, like, you know, like you. You love your brother. You need your brother, but you want to sometimes take, like, grab his head and put him in the headlock and shove his face in the dirt. Right?
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
Well, that's. That's what I did this week. You want to be the big brother.
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Mitch Sherman
Not the little brother.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, well, today I was. Usually they are. You know, they write. They've got the bigger checkbook. They write the check. Yeah. Bottom of the McShay Show. You can see it. You know, Fanduels, the sponsor of his show, but we took him down today. Mensch. And I'll take that. And I think that this is a. This is a loving relationship, but there's going to be some bickering. And I. And I won this. I won this battle. Not necessarily the war, but won this battle. Same game parlay. I threw out there. I had Georgia. All right, enough of the nonsense. It's not what we do, but it's. It's nice to get a big one.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And I told you, you're a sucker, but we can move on.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah, you did. You did.
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Todd McShay
How about this game, man? Give me your first reaction. You. You go first.
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Mitch Sherman
So obviously, we're gonna get into Carson Beck. I'll leave that. But the one number. I'll leave that for a little bit later. The one number that jumps out at me. And there's some interesting stats in this game. Tennessee, zero sacks. That offensive line for Georgia showed up in a big way tonight. Big makeshift offensive line. No Earnest Green. It's. You know, I just did not expect that kind of performance from the offensive line. And they just showed out so super impressive. I was surprised that.
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Todd McShay
Remember, this is an offensive line. Mitch, last week, five sacks allowed, right? Nine tackles for loss allowed, hit after hit, pressure after pressure on Carson Beck. Ole Miss last week annihilated that Georgia offensive line and that offensive line. I know the stats have been good. If you go to pff, the numbers have been good. But we've studied the tape, and when you study. Yeah, they've. There were some flaws, but this. I thought personally, and you're my O line guy, but I thought personally, this is the best performance that Georgia's offensive line put on tape all year long.
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Mitch Sherman
By far. By far. And it's super encouraging going forward for them. I mean, if they, if they can continue to do that, they're in good shape. I mean, I don't even. I don't know what the pressure numbers were. I mean, forget the sacks. I don't. I don't. Comfortable, man. Yeah. He did not get sacked.
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Todd McShay
Yeah.
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Mitch Sherman
So I don't know what the pressures were or how they do all that, but I mean, he was comfortable in the pocket. Did they run the ball great? No, but they ran it well enough. And at the end, they ran it when they needed to. That's the other thing.
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Todd McShay
Yeah.
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Mitch Sherman
Tell me how you show up in the fourth quarter and when they needed to make plays in the fourth quarter, that offensive line came together and made plays. So to me, that's Carson Beck is the headline of this. Of this.
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Todd McShay
No question.
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Mitch Sherman
But the offensive line, I mean, you know where I'm going. You knew I had to go to the big boys up front and tell you how well they played.
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Todd McShay
No, and they deserve to get. To get top billing here. Truthfully. They do, because that was arguably the biggest question mark coming in this game. Coming off that Ole Miss game, going against a Tennessee defensive front that we said not going to have as many high draft picks this year, but over the course of time, we'll have a lot of high draft picks and a lot of draft picks. You know, Tennessee's defense, they're rotating eight defensive tackles a game.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah, I thought it was six, but eight. I mean, it doesn't surprise me.
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Todd McShay
Six edges. That's 14 dudes. They're hockey line shifting it and so like that. So let. All right, let's, let's, let's go back to the beginning for a minute and we will get to Carson Beck because I've got a lot of strong opinions on Carson Beck tonight.
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Mitch Sherman
Yep. As you should.
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Todd McShay
I love what Tennessee coordinator did. Tim Banks coming in, great defensive plan. Both. Honest to God. The first half of the game. Especially the first quarter of the game, I thought the first quarter of the game Tennessee out coached Georgia and I'm gonna. And that's not at all a slight on curb smart or anyone in that coaching. I just thought like Tennessee had an awesome plan on both sides. Let's focus defensively. Right now, Tim Banks, the coordinator comes out and. And they're doing a great job stopping the run. Right. Really limiting Frazier in that Georgia run game. That's making Georgia one dimensional. They're playing man to man. They're holding up on the edge because on the perimeter, I mean, and they're doing that knowing, right, go ahead, beat us, right us that you've got more in the barrel than you've shown so far this year. Because the wide receivers, we talk every week. The wide receivers are the weak spot for Georgia.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
And, and early on, Carson Beck came out. He was 2 for 9 to start right now. Now there were drops, but, but the, the defensive game plan I thought was really good early on. We're going to trust our front four. We're going to, we're going to play man to man on the outside. We're going to have the safeties involved in the run game. We're not going to bring a ton of extra pressure, but we are going to keep them up closer and not. And not get overly worried about what's going on the perimeter with our safety because we've got to stop the run. Even though the run has not been great for Georgia this year and, and Travis Etn's out with the rib injury, they still. Frazier is a really talented back and you know, if you're playing Georgia, you got to stop the run. And they did that. They did that early on and it was all on Beck and his receivers. And it wasn't going well early right then it was Carson Beck's time. Like this to me, we all came into the year. Anyone who follows the NFL draft, anyone who follows college football. Carson Beck was number one quarterback coming in majority. Pete Thamble on game day. Early on, he, he surveyed a bunch of NFL scouts and, and the, the player that got the most votes at the quarterback position for who's going to be the first quarterback off the board was Carson Beck. And it was by a, by a decent amount. He was kind of like the majority vote for, for number one quarterback. And then the season started and, and there was, there was no security blanket at tight end. Brock Bowers is with the raiders. There's no lad McConkey, the difference maker, the versatility, the route running, the speed that he brought. He's gone. And then they have two wide receivers who are supposed to be key parts on offense that were. Are not with the team or suspended or some kind of violations. They're not there, right?
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And so now all of a sudden he's struggling. And we took just like three weeks ago. I think the regression is real. I'll never forget like we talked about and it was on tape and there were other factors, but he was pressing. He was not playing well then. Remember last week we came out and coming off that game last Week I said, Georgia fans, I know you're not going to want to hear this right now, but that's the best I've seen your quarterback play all year.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
And we remember I talked about the, the Molly McGrath Report and how we went back and self scouted and how we realized at first and 10 he was playing like his fourth and one the most. He had to take some pressure off himself, go with trust his reads. It's almost like he had a reset and he played well in that game. Everything else is falling apart around him, but he played well in that game and he carried over to tonight and early in the game when he's 2 for 9, first throw of the, of the game, it takes a shot to 11 to, to Smith.
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Mitch Sherman
Smith. Yep.
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Todd McShay
Drop.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
You know, and so two drops of the first nine passes of the game. And by the way, did you know coming into this game Georgia, Georgia's receivers or Georgia's team leads the, leads the sec with drops. 27 drops coming in. I don't know, four drops in the first half, two in the first quarter. So all of that said Carson Beck was the story tonight. The offensive line was great. The defense pitched a shutout in the second half. Carson Beck watching him. That's the reason why NFL scouts when surveyed by Pete Thammel in the preseason and early in the season said, yeah, he's QB1 in 2025.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah, listen, I gotta say, as he usually does, Herb street was outstanding tonight. And he said it almost right away after that scramble when, when Carson Beck made, you know, escaped a sack and squeezed out of it and Austin scrambles for a first down and he, and it was maybe a series later that Hershey was like, just feels different since the scramble. Just feels like he's playing with more confidence.
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Todd McShay
Yeah.
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Mitch Sherman
And he was. I mean it just felt like he was more comfortable. He was ripping it. We talked about how often we talked about he's not trusting his tight ends. All of a sudden he's getting the ball to his tight ends and these guys are making plays for him.
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Todd McShay
You know what I saw tonight? I saw a quarterback that had, that has accepted the role that I've got to carry this team, but is not pressing in that role. That was the difference to me.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
I get it. We're not going to be able to run, run the football. We don't. You know, Frazier's not going to put up big numbers. This defensive front for Tennessee is phenomenal. I'm going to have to carry this team, but I'm not going to Press. And so he. He was going through his progressions. He was tucking the ball and running. I thought early it was the last play of the. The first quarter and then the first drive, it carried over to the second quarter. That was the turning point for me in this game. It was. There were three key, key plays. They were backed up. He had that big throw. There was a. It was a free play because Tennessee was off, right? He connects with Lovett, 38 yards. It's like, okay, now we're going right then. Then the Beck scramble on that same drive, right? Big time run. Tried to. Went through his progressions. Pockets collapsing, tucks the ball, runs. And I think it was. Was that the one or maybe was a different one where he kind of lunges and knocks. Knocks the defensive back back.
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Mitch Sherman
That was it. I was thinking that it was that one. Yeah.
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Todd McShay
So that run and then. And then the very next throw. Like you want to see an NFL throw. Go watch his. His first touchdown pass.
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Mitch Sherman
Okay?
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Todd McShay
It was that first drive, the second quarter. It was that touchdown pass to delp. 19 yard strike. That's what we expected, right? Carson Beck going through his reads. Herbie did a great job on this. It was. It was. Pause the. Pause the play from the. From the sky cam. Watch behind Beck. Watch what he's seeing. Pockets collapsing on him. Not panicked receiver has not even gotten over the clock. Cleared the safety, but the ball's going to a spot. Throw him open, drilled it 19 yards right in the end zone. Touchdown. From that point on, you saw the confidence grow and the confidence in the tight ends growing. And we talked. You just touched on it. M. The tight ends have been a disaster, right? Think about Brock Bowers and what he was. Think about all the talented tight ends, the tight end room they had a couple years ago with three guys that wound up in the NFL. The tight ends have not been reliable. The tight ends have not been difference makers. Tonight they were both 10 catches and it was mostly Delp and Urosic, right? The stick. Yeah, Urosic, the Stanford transfer. But as a group, the tight ends, which have been a huge liability, 10 for 136 yards and two touchdowns.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah, I mean, they were making plays down the middle of the field, they were making plays outside, they were making runs after the catch. I mean, the erasa kid, I told you I really liked him coming out of Stanford. And he did virtually nothing for the first six game of the season. For six games of the season, made a couple catches. Started tonight, he goes out and has five catches for 50 yards. I think, and I'm like, this is the guy I was, I was waiting to see. Because again, he's a dude that can produce after the catch. He's a talented guy. They have the talent has not. Is not the production is not a reflection of the talent. The talent has been there. The trust and whether and I, however that works out, are they running the wrong routes? Whatever's going on, the trust between the quarterback and his tight ends just hasn't been there. But, man, when you see it tonight and you see it's working the way it's supposed to work, it's impressive.
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Todd McShay
Carson Beck, man, like the, the guy I've seen the last two weeks, and I know last week was a loss against Ole Miss and it was ugly. You're like, mcshay, what are you talking about?
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah, I thought you were a little generous, but I mean, good for you, man.
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Todd McShay
I saw, I saw him turn a corner. I saw something like, I, I, I. He's not pressing. He's not forcing throws. He's understanding the importance of protecting the football. He did it in that game. It was a loss, but he did everything he could with what he had to work with in that game, and it wasn't much right tonight. He did everything he could. He. He did. I mean, think about the drops he had. Yeah, two drops early in the game. One could have been the huge play to start off the game. Now all of a sudden, it's second and 10.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
Then, then a little bit later, the big drop in the first half to another one to Smith. The ball kind of hung up there a little bit. Defender came in and made a play at the end. But like, in the end, struggling quarterback.
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Mitch Sherman
You want your guy to make a play for you, you know, like the.
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Todd McShay
NFL, like, more often than not that that's a catch. So I'm starting to see with Carson Beck what we were hoping to see in terms of the progression from last year to this year. First year starter last year, coming in year two, comfortable with the system. Yeah, there's new weapons, but, but he's the guy now.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And finally, for two weeks, back to back weeks, he's the guy. And that's exciting, man. And it's not too late because you know what? Right now we're making a run towards the, the playoffs. And now I might get, I might get, you know, two, three, four more games I get to see.
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Mitch Sherman
So believe it or not, we'd much rather talk about him playing. Well, we'd much rather talk about. It's great for us man, we're rooting for the kid. We, you know, it's. It's better for draft conversations. It's so, you know, it's been kind of tough to watch them struggle. And so it's great to see a guy turning around. It's. And hopefully he continues at this level. So, I mean, there was this.
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Todd McShay
And I know you watched the Texas game today, and it's not. It's not about, like, we're not hearing instant reaction. And here, these are our updated rankings and all that.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
But I am going to say this. I've seen enough of Quinn Ewers. I've seen enough of Carson Beck, and. And for a vast majority of the season, I was not seeing the Carson Beck I was accustomed to seeing, and I wasn't seeing the Carson Beck I was expecting to see in terms of growth.
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Mitch Sherman
Yep.
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Todd McShay
Now that I'm seeing that guy, Carson Beck is a better NFL prospect than Quinn. Yours.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah. Yeah. I'll say this about Quin. Yours.
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Todd McShay
I.
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Mitch Sherman
He's super talented, and I just keep waiting for him to have that game like he had against Alabama last year, and he's just not. He hasn't been consistent, and he still has time to because of how good Texas is, but it feels like he's running out of Runway, it feels like.
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Todd McShay
And we'll get to Texas in a little bit. Yeah, we don't. And we have all week. We have all the rest of the season and all, you know, pre draft and all of that. But I just want to make it clear, like, when you're seeing the right version of. Of Carson Beck and you're seeing Quinn Ewers, and we have a lot more tape to go off of with Quinn Ewers because he played a lot more games.
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Mitch Sherman
It's true.
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Todd McShay
So I know what Quinn is. He's a damn talented quarterback. And I think David Pollock put it best, like, check out Quinn Ewers on the driving range. Like, striping them. Yeah. Like that second. That second flight. It looks beautiful.
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Mitch Sherman
Like, you know what I mean?
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Todd McShay
But, like, all right, now we're in the 18th hole, right. Pressure's on.
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Mitch Sherman
How's your short game?
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Todd McShay
Yeah, all the stuff, you know, like.
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Mitch Sherman
Yep.
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Todd McShay
So it's fascinating to me. And like, you look at the quarterback class, and again, this is about Georgia. This is about Tennessee. This is about the College Football Playoff push. But you look at this quarterback class, and we keep talking about, you know, Shador Sanders is putting the best tape out there, and. And he's. He's been the best pure passer in this class. And he still is. Like, that doesn't change. And Ed Cam Ward is the fastest riser of all these quarterbacks, has had a phenomenal season, carrying Miami and all the things that he's done. But like Carson Beck, from an NFL perspective, making NFL throws, the mobility he brings, the size he has, he. He. This is a damn good time for him to turn it on, let's just put it that way. And we got a lot of time to unpack it, but he's gonna make. If he keeps playing like this and Georgia goes on a run, he's going to make things really interesting. And I guess I'll leave it at that. Yeah. Which is great.
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Mitch Sherman
Any. Let me ask you this. Any moral victories for Tennessee tonight?
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Todd McShay
Well, let's go to the other side of the ball. And I already told you what I loved about what Tennessee did. What I. What I expected more was, was pressure and getting home.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
That was on that side of the ball. Offensively. Offensively. Man, it was fun to watch Nico in that first half, wasn't it?
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Mitch Sherman
Wasn't it? I mean, he's talented and he's starting to make plays with his feet. He spins the ball so well. And it's just. I'm excited to watch that kid develop. I mean, he played really well in the first half. I thought there were flashes in the second half and.
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Todd McShay
And just watching him, like, that's a moment out there.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
I don't care who's ranked higher. Like, that's a. You're between the hedges. Prime time.
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Mitch Sherman
Heart rate is up.
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Todd McShay
That crowd, they've been lathered up 37 days since Georgia's had a home game.
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Mitch Sherman
I know.
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Todd McShay
I mean, that.
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Mitch Sherman
That's wild. There's.
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Todd McShay
That is a buzz saw that you're walking into. And I would have more expected from a. From a freshman quarterback in Nico that you had the bumps and. And kind of the offensive struggles that they had in the second half. In the first half.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
He came out with like no pulse. No problem.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
Like this. I wrote down a bunch.
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Mitch Sherman
Like he might not even play tonight. He was.
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Todd McShay
There was.
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Mitch Sherman
And you know he was going to play.
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Todd McShay
And we've kind of like tongue in cheek about the overthrows early. And I said just coming out, we've watched every tape and he. Every game there's at least one and sometimes two or three overthrows on the deep. On the deep shots and early in the game. And I said on Thursday when we talked, previewed this game, I said if. If I'm. If I'M hypo. Just like let's get it out of the way. But first point of the game, let's, let's just drive it deep. Let's get it out of the way. Because we saw even against Mississippi State, wide open like 7 yards as receiver threw him. Not only threw him over, threw him, he threw, threw the ball where even if the receiver like cut a jet pack and caught it, he was out of bounds by two yards.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
But this one, I. I literally am sitting there almost with a smirk on my face. Like the first attempt down the right rail. Deep shot, right.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And I'm like, there it is. Hypo. Hypo know, let's get it out of his system. And then all of a sudden I'm like, wait, yeah, you didn't, he didn't overshoot it.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And what happens like hey Nico, I told you right under. Throw it a little bit.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
See what happens.
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Mitch Sherman
Right?
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Todd McShay
Because you know what?
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Mitch Sherman
Like only good things happen almost. Only good things happen almost.
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Todd McShay
And yeah. And it's either. I mean you get one of three options. The receiver comes back, can get it and go, go in, you know, head tops them.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
Or there's a pass interference or very likely there's an incompletion ball. Ball gets batted down, but your receivers in. In position to knock down a ball. And it's not an intercept.
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Mitch Sherman
Exactly.
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Todd McShay
Right. The overthrow is. There's one result incomplete.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And so they got that, they got that out of the way. And instead of it being an overthrow incomplete, it's a PI. And. And all. And now we get. All right, Here we go. 15 yards, offense is rolling. So I love that conceptually and just the poor. I wrote in my notes, poise early, balls out on time, trusting his reads and letting it rip.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
See like sometimes when you, you can see when the ball comes out of his hand, you can tell whether he, he believes in his throw, whether he has conviction in his throw. Yeah. Or if he's kind of hoping.
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Mitch Sherman
Right. Right.
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Todd McShay
Throw. Early on, even the incompletions, there was conviction in those throws. I, I loved watching him in the first half.
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Mitch Sherman
I thought Tennessee as, as a team believed they could win this game, believe they were going to win this game and handle themselves. The poise and really at the most critical point in the game, fourth and two, they jump. The, the noise gets to them. The movement gets them and they jump. They have the pre snap penalty on the left tackle, fourth and seven, they have to punt it and they like. Then Georgia scores and the game's over.
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Todd McShay
Yeah.
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Mitch Sherman
So there was a lot to like about it, but one of the most critical points in the game, I felt like the atmosphere did get to them. So for worse worth.
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Todd McShay
It was definitely. I mean and give a lot of credit to Georgia defensive staff because H came in with a great plan. He really did it. Yeah. The balance. I was just going to say the balance. That 27 yard touchdown run before half, making it 17:14. Georgia then comes. They have like a minute 50 left. They drive down, kick a field goal. All knotted at 17 at the half.
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Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
But the balance they had with Nico throwing the ball. Nico scrambling and creating a little bit and then. And then Dylan Sampson, who's been the Star Offensively for 10, he's been. He's been their rock the whole year. We talked about over a thousand yards rushing coming into this game. He had a really. He had a great first half. And even like into the fourth quarter I heard Fowler talking about like it was. I forget of 164. It was like 164, 146 yards rushing, 146 or 164 yards passing. Identical.
- [24:52]
Mitch Sherman
It was like identical. Yeah. Yeah.
- [24:54]
Todd McShay
So the balance that they wanted to establish was there. Everything they dialed up was. It felt like gold. It felt like there. There was purpose behind it. They knew exactly what they were executing offensively. Like they played great in the first half, but they go into halftime and it's 17, 17. It's like there's something like demoralizing or defeating about. We just threw our best punch right. And that mother bleeper still standing.
- [25:21]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. You got to learn from that. They. If they can learn from that, it's going to be interesting going forward because the teams, I mean the talent is.
- [25:26]
Todd McShay
There, the coaching is there. The coaching is there. Hype team, folks, man.
- [25:32]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. If you're rankings, the rankings committee, I mean this team's got to be in. I mean you're thinking, oh yeah, right. I mean the, the Arkansas loss in the. Early in the season, you may be like, I wonder what's going to happen when they get to Athens. You wonder what's. And I know it was a 14 point game and I know you can give me a hard time because of the spread and all that, but this game was tight. I mean this was a. It was. Tennessee had a shot to win this game.
- [25:55]
Todd McShay
No question. Yeah, but. But Georgia like to give them all man second half and it's like it's got to be maddening for hypo because you come in with the like Damn near perfect game plan, right?
- [26:08]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [26:08]
Todd McShay
Everything's rolling. You've. You've played. You've played Kirby now three times. Thirteen points is what you've averaged in those three games. And when you. And when you. We talked about this on Thursday when you had Hendon Hooker and you had Jalen and you were rolling and you were averaging 49 points per game in every other game you played outside of Georgia, and Georgia held you to 13 points in that game. And so you come out and you're like, Here we go, 10 nothing. Right?
- [26:35]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [26:36]
Todd McShay
Take your 13.
- [26:37]
Mitch Sherman
We're gonna hang 40 on them.
- [26:38]
Todd McShay
Yeah. Yeah. And we're gonna do it in their house. Right? Like, I. I just gotta be like.
- [26:43]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [26:43]
Todd McShay
And we're doing it in their house too.
- [26:45]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [26:46]
Todd McShay
And. And you wind up with 17.
- [26:48]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [26:49]
Todd McShay
You're up 10 nothing early and you finish with just 17. You talk about defense like, Kirby, that guy never ceases to amaze me, you know?
- [26:59]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. All the guys, we talk on defense too. You know, we don't talk. You did talk about Chad Chambliss this week.
- [27:05]
Todd McShay
Yep.
- [27:05]
Mitch Sherman
He had a big game.
- [27:06]
Todd McShay
He had a monster game. And he had a big sack.
- [27:08]
Mitch Sherman
The other linebacker. Smile, Smile. Munden. Every time I throw him on, he's banged up a little bit this year. Every time I watch the tape, he's doing something, man. He can rush the quarterback, he can make plays in coverage. He's good against the run. I feel like. You know, I always hate saying underrated, because by who? Teams probably aren't underrating him, but I mean, he's maybe a player that doesn't get enough recognition considering all the other dudes on that defense. But, man, he.
- [27:32]
Todd McShay
He had a.
- [27:33]
Mitch Sherman
He had a eight tackle, seven solo tonight, a sack, a pass, deflection. I mean, he hit a big game too, man.
- [27:40]
Todd McShay
He really did. And. And then at the end, like, I didn't think. And again, I gotta go back and watch the tape, but I didn't think. I didn't think Mikel Will. Like, I didn't remember hearing his name of Quiet Jalon Walker. I heard his name on, you know, several times throughout the broadcast. Made some plays, was like around the ball, doing. Doing typical Walker stuff. But Williams was. Kind of. Seemed like it was kind of quiet. But, man, when they needed that sack at the end to put that game away, there he was. Punched it out.
- [28:10]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [28:11]
Todd McShay
You know, didn't even need to at that point because it was fourth down. But, yeah, this is a fun game. Like, I. I feel that both teams played great.
- [28:20]
Mitch Sherman
You Know, it did not disappoint.
- [28:22]
Todd McShay
It didn't disappoint. And, and that's not always the case when you have games like this, as we saw last week with Alabama and Alabama and lsu. Right? Yeah. I don't know. I, I feel like that that's about it. Right? Like that.
- [28:38]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. And then this is going on and we're watching, we're peeking at Oregon, Wisconsin and saying what is happening in Madison, Wisconsin right now?
- [28:47]
Todd McShay
I'll say this. And this is good. Yeah, you're right. A good time to transition to Oregon, Wisconsin. And we got. We got a handful of other things to get to. We're not going to go as in depth. We just want almost a half hour on that. And I think it's well deserved and I do think we need to get to some of the ranking stuff in a minute and I think we'll circle back when we get to some other SEC teams. But Oregon, I, again, I was watching more Georgia, Tennessee.
- [29:14]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [29:15]
Todd McShay
I truly was. I watched a little bit because Oregon kicked off earlier, so I got to start. But from what I saw, and I said second half, like now it's like, oh, now I'm on the remote back and forth. You know, I gotta make sure I'm watching both split screen and all that. Luke Fickle, this was his masterpiece.
- [29:32]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. This was like just flying around and playing physical.
- [29:37]
Todd McShay
Yeah. State couldn't do this to him, to Oregon. Ohio State didn't frustrate Dylan Gabriel like they did. And I give Oregon a lot. Like, the tackling was master. You don't see that kind of master class tackling in college football almost ever. And to be as disciplined as they were, like Wisconsin just played a great game. It was a. But they don't have the offense to pull it off. But like, yeah, you better be. I mean, I promise you this. Everyone, every future opponent for Oregon, especially as we get in the playoff, Ohio State getting ready for the Big Ten championship. All right. What they do that. That. That nobody else has been able to do, you know.
- [30:21]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. That's a tough place to play too, though. I mean, that's. You, you.
- [30:25]
Todd McShay
It's different.
- [30:25]
Mitch Sherman
You can, you can say you're ready for that. And I, you know, Oregon's played some big games already, but that is a. That, you know, they played at home against Ohio State, at home against Boise State, I think.
- [30:36]
Todd McShay
Yep.
- [30:36]
Mitch Sherman
Maybe they, you know, they go into that atmosphere and it's a tough place to play and they, you know, listen, we say it about, you know, in the Illinois, they played at home.
- [30:45]
Todd McShay
Yep.
- [30:46]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, it's. You know, we say in the NFL, those guys get paid too. Well, Wisconsin plays in the Big Ten, too. That's a. You know, they may not be an elite team right now, but that's a good football team that's going to play hard.
- [30:56]
Todd McShay
So, yeah, they got. I mean, you're. If you're number one in the country, you're going to get the best punch. There was one. There was one series that I saw that I thought was awesome. Like, you talk about back against. Against the wall, and I get it. Like, if they lose, they're still in. They're still, you know, they're still going to play. Like, they probably. Actually, I don't even know how it would have worked in the Big Ten because Indiana, undefeated. So. So maybe they're. But. But like, the. It's not all collapsing if they lose tonight. It gets more complicated and all of that. But Dylan Gabriel, it's fourth and nine, right? First. First play of the fourth quarter. They come back fourth and nine and landing decides, let's go. We're going for it. We're. Could have kicked a long field goal, but they decided to go for it because they were down. They were down seven. And this throw was awesome. He's a lefty, so it's like a righty rolling to his right, but Dylan Gabriel rolls to his left. Ferguson, the tight end, has, like, heads, like, between me and. You see my mic here? Like, yes. That's how much space. Like, full sprint to his left. Throws it not across his body, but, like, it's come. It's got to come back into the field to play a little bit. Right. It's like right there.
- [32:13]
Mitch Sherman
Slide down for it a little bit.
- [32:15]
Todd McShay
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
- [32:16]
Mitch Sherman
Yes.
- [32:16]
Todd McShay
So convert the fourth down, and then I think it was one or like two or three plays later. Jordan James has the. The touchdown to the right side, and that tied it up at 13.
- [32:27]
Mitch Sherman
It's a good thing to have Jordan James. Man, that kid.
- [32:29]
Todd McShay
I love him.
- [32:30]
Mitch Sherman
We've talked about. We talk about him all the time.
- [32:32]
Todd McShay
Yeah. But again, a lot of teams escape today. That was one of. That was one of the. I near misses. You hear near misses with airplanes. You don't ever want to hear about your plane having a near miss. That was a near miss. Both my parents worked for the airlines, so that's like.
- [32:50]
Mitch Sherman
It's fine.
- [32:51]
Todd McShay
It's ingrained. Yeah. I'm allowed to. I'm allowed to make those jokes.
- [32:54]
Mitch Sherman
The Ducks miss Ted Johnson, though. I'll say that. I. I Want to watch the tape, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that. It's. They have a lot of weapons, and I get it. And Gabriel's playing great, but Tez is their difference maker. I think he's the. He's the alpha. So I think when he's not there, it's a different. Different offense.
- [33:12]
Todd McShay
All right, let's go to some. Let's. Let's go to what wasn't a near miss, what was not an escape. Man.
- [33:22]
Mitch Sherman
Take a turn for the negative here. Yeah, yeah.
- [33:24]
Todd McShay
I mean, we got to get to it. I mean, it was. It was one of the biggest stories of the day, Maybe the second biggest story of the day. I want to like, and I don't want to do a detailed breakdown of this game. Like, you know, LSU is now 6 and 4. They've lost three straight games. I think it's important for people to understand it was not a long shot despite losing three games coming into this.
- [33:51]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [33:52]
Todd McShay
Two losses in the. In the sec. We've talked a lot about it because we've come on live. We came on live after their game against Texas A and M. Yep.
- [34:02]
Mitch Sherman
And Alabama.
- [34:03]
Todd McShay
And the first half of that game against Texas A and M, they looked like they were in maybe. Like, maybe. Maybe we overlooked lsu. Maybe they're in. In that, like, upper right college. Maybe not the elite elite, but they might be right there in that, like, second tier because they look damn good in that first half. And then we talked about a hundred times. Nussmeyer rolling to his left, throws the ball up for grabs. Bad, bad mistake, bad turnover. Not game changing until Marcel Reed comes in, runs all over him, three touchdowns and like 12 plays. And from that point, they haven't recovered, man.
- [34:37]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [34:37]
Todd McShay
This team is splintered.
- [34:39]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [34:40]
Todd McShay
And so I want people to understand coming into Florida, I get it, you're going the swamp.
- [34:44]
Mitch Sherman
But.
- [34:45]
Todd McShay
And I. And more importantly, I. I get the opposite part of it. Florida just got worked against Texas. That was ugly.
- [34:54]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [34:55]
Todd McShay
So you.
- [34:55]
Mitch Sherman
Florida's been depleted. They've been battling. You know, they've had issues of quarterback. This is a team that's, you know, you could say disappointed, but they've almost overachieved with everything they've had to go through this year. But. Yeah, sorry.
- [35:07]
Todd McShay
And. And I. And. And Billy Napier, like, hats off, man.
- [35:11]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [35:12]
Todd McShay
To keep it. To keep a team together the way he has. And for the, you know, the president of the university, whoever came out and made the comments about, you know, I still believe it because I went to practice.
- [35:21]
Mitch Sherman
It's pretty good now. Yeah.
- [35:23]
Todd McShay
Saw how hard these guys are still playing and how committed they are. Like, good for. Good for the university. Good for Billy Napier, especially, because he, like, I've gotten to know Billy over, over the years. Like, it's hard not to root for that guy.
- [35:36]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [35:37]
Todd McShay
And his staff, like, they, they grind, they work, they try to do it the right way. They're good. You know, they're good people who are, Are grinding and know what they're doing. It just, it hasn't all come together yet, but unfortunately, it's. That should be the story we should be celebrating, not the story. The story is what the. Has happened to lsu.
- [35:57]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [35:57]
Todd McShay
Right.
- [35:58]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
Because, like, my, in my initial point was it was not like, nine different losses and this has to happen, and that, like, the, There was a very clear path. The tiebreaker was almost in their favor to, to get in. And so they had everything on the line today.
- [36:18]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [36:19]
Todd McShay
And they didn't come out. Like, seven turnovers in three games is a stat I wrote down, but six of those turnovers were in, Were in the previous two games. So it wasn't like they were just like, you know, bungling the ball all over the place.
- [36:33]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [36:34]
Todd McShay
And the effort was. I didn't ever. I wasn't watching him be like, oh, they, they mailed it in. They don't care.
- [36:39]
Mitch Sherman
Oh, no, no, no.
- [36:40]
Todd McShay
They took Florida, too, lately. I didn't see that either. But here's what I saw, buddy. I saw a team splintering in front of my eyes on national television, and that's scary.
- [36:55]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. It's not fun.
- [36:56]
Todd McShay
I saw Brian Kelly scream at Hilton number three on the sideline and there. And you didn't need a lip reader to hear him, to hear him say, you're not coachable.
- [37:07]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [37:07]
Todd McShay
You think you are.
- [37:09]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [37:09]
Todd McShay
That's not happening when things are okay or things are normal and things. It's just a competitive, Competitive environment. We all saw at the end of the game, Lacy come over and just ripping Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly trying to explain, but that wasn't the read. It should have gone. That doesn't have that. That's not happening with Nick Saban. That's not happening with Kirby. That's not. You know what I mean? And, like, you know, I love Brian and I defend him to people who don't like him. I, I, I'm, I like Brian Kelly.
- [37:37]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [37:37]
Todd McShay
I've gotten to know him. I respect him. I don't, you know, some of the yelling and the antics in the old days and all that. I wasn't a huge Fan of. But I respect what he is as a coach. I truly do. Yeah, but this, that, that looked ugly and it looked like. And I'll leave it with this, there were a lot of just mental errors and mistake. It wasn't a lack of effort, but it just seemed like Swanson doesn't play the edge, rusher doesn't play in the first quarter because of disciplinary issues. Like, you start adding all these pieces up and.
- [38:11]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [38:12]
Todd McShay
And it tells you a story that they don't have to come out and say in a press conference. Right, yeah.
- [38:17]
Mitch Sherman
What's going on here? What's going on in the locker room? And then, I mean, you talk about the execution. They, their run defense hasn't been bad overall, but they just get. They had the Texas A and M kid, Marcel Reed, come in and just gash him. Last week, it's Jalen Milroe this week you're thinking, well, maybe they'll get it. And when it matters most, the season is on the line. They give up a 55 yard touchdown run because guys are taking bad angles. Guys aren't getting off blocks, guys aren't in the right spot. Guys, you know, it's just you, you give up a 55 yard touchdown run when your season is on the line. And then the other thing is, I think they had seven sacks today. They gave up. I think they gave up seven sacks today. Yeah, that offensive line, that's supposed to be his strength.
- [38:59]
Todd McShay
You can't run the football and there's no balance. The quarterback, who's wonderful, Nussmeyer's wonderful and I love his talent. I can't wait to see him come back next year and continue to develop. And I'm assuming that's the road it'll go. But he, he's not a runner and, and he doesn't choose to run even sometimes when he should. So it's kind of a sitting duck type situation. And by not running, you're. You're throwing the ball a lot.
- [39:25]
Mitch Sherman
Right. I mean, your quarterback's getting a concussion test on the sideline with the cameras on him. I mean, that was like. It was just kind of. It's just scary, you know, it's kind of emblematic.
- [39:35]
Todd McShay
Kind of icky. Right, Right.
- [39:37]
Mitch Sherman
It was. Yeah. I guess that's.
- [39:42]
Todd McShay
Receivers yelling at the head coach. Head coach saying, you're not coachable. Who do you think you are?
- [39:47]
Mitch Sherman
The damn broke.
- [39:49]
Todd McShay
Like, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. The damn broke. The damn broke today. And it was, it was hard to watch. I mean, so I guess. And so if nothing Else that, that eliminates LSU right. From this, from this whole situation. And we'll get to Texas in a second. But you look at, I think we have the SEC standings. If you want to pull it up like the sec when you think it's kind of working itself out, it's still an absolute mess. And to be honest with you, Georgia winning makes it even more complicated and makes it even more.
- [40:24]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, yeah. So like you have a two loss Tennessee team instead of a one loss Tennessee team. Yeah.
- [40:30]
Todd McShay
So Texas is five and one, A M is five and one. The beauty is, unlike a lot of these teams who don't have much SEC play left.
- [40:38]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [40:38]
Todd McShay
They're playing in the last week.
- [40:40]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [40:40]
Todd McShay
How good is that?
- [40:41]
Mitch Sherman
Man, that's great. It's great. You got to earn.
- [40:45]
Todd McShay
That's an elimination game from the, from the SEC championship. And then Georgia is now 6 and 2. And I will double check all this stuff, but this is what I wrote down.
- [40:54]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [40:54]
Todd McShay
Georgia's six and two.
- [40:55]
Mitch Sherman
I got it.
- [40:56]
Todd McShay
Tennessee's five and two. Alabama's four and two. Ole misses four and two. I think Vandy only has two losses.
- [41:04]
Mitch Sherman
Vane's three and three.
- [41:07]
Todd McShay
Okay. And South Carolina's got three losses in South Carolina. We'll get to them in a little bit. South Carolina didn't have their best showing today, but South Carolina would be favored over a lot of. A handful of teams that might get it and get into this thing. So. Yeah, but, but look at those standings right now. Texas and A M, we've got them playing and we'll sort some things out. But Georgia 6 and 2, Tennessee 5 and 2, Bama 4 and 2, Ole Miss, 4 and 2. Wow. And you know what's interesting now? So Georgia lost to Alabama. Ole Miss. Right, right. Georgia lost to Alabama, no Miss. And so they were sitting at 12 this week, but they were left out of the playoff because if the, the conference winner, the fifth conference winner would be. Boise State is not in the top 12. They knock out the 12th seed and go play that 12, 5 matchup that we talked about against Ohio State. So Georgia was on the outside looking in. Won't be the case this week, but it's almost like they have to move up in a, like in a, in a pack. You know what I mean? With.
- [42:13]
Mitch Sherman
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
- [42:14]
Todd McShay
With Alabama moving up, Ole Miss moving up, and Georgia right behind those two because they lost to them. But then Tennessee now moves back into the, into that pack. And Tennessee beat Alabama, right? Yeah, but Georgia beat Tennessee. So it's a mess. Like, I don't want.
- [42:33]
Mitch Sherman
I don't get it. You figure it out, because I. My head's spinning. I will say this, man. Georgia lost to Alabama by seven at Alabama. They beat Texas by 15 at Texas.
- [42:44]
Todd McShay
Right.
- [42:44]
Mitch Sherman
And then lost. I mean, the loss to Ole Miss is the one. They're like, okay. You know, they lost by 18. They. They kind of got it handed to him a little bit in that game. But their schedule is ridiculous. If people are like, how would you. You know, if they even lost tonight, how would you take a Georgia. A Georgia team with three losses, say they lose in the SEC Championship game? How would you take a Georgia team with three losses and put them over some of the other teams? I mean, it's easy. I mean, look what they've had to do. Another team. I mean, look at their strength now.
- [43:15]
Todd McShay
But it's amazing how. It's amazing how one week.
- [43:17]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, it's true.
- [43:19]
Todd McShay
I mean, last week we were like, Georgia just. It's not their year. They don't have receivers.
- [43:24]
Mitch Sherman
I had Tennessee in this game, and I really. I thought, you know, I've seen it on tape, man. I've seen it on tape. I know it's happening. I can see it coming.
- [43:33]
Todd McShay
But.
- [43:33]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [43:34]
Todd McShay
I mean, I just hope FanDuel has enough money to sponsor our show next week after what. What we did. All right. I mean, it's gonna be wild. I. I would not want to be the committee this week trying to go through all that. Yeah.
- [43:49]
Mitch Sherman
I'm gonna be very interested what they.
- [43:51]
Todd McShay
Do, because the thing is, like. Yeah, it's not the last ranking. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but it's not the last rankings, but it sets a precedent with those. And I just talked about those four teams right there.
- [44:00]
Mitch Sherman
Right, right.
- [44:02]
Todd McShay
With. With Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia. It sets. It sets a precedent for. Okay. If we. When. When we rank them this way, if they don't have a sign, like. Like Georgia's remaining schedule is. Is UMass and Georgia Tech, so you can't make a shift off of that, right?
- [44:23]
Mitch Sherman
No.
- [44:24]
Todd McShay
So Tennessee's remaining schedule is UTEP and Vandy. So unless there's a. There's a trip up against Vandy. I don't know.
- [44:35]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, Like, I don't. I. I don't either. Like, what do you do with byu.
- [44:39]
Todd McShay
And how many teams were on that graphic? Was it 6? I'm sorry. We keep popping it up. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5aM if they lose to Texas, like, they don't deserve to be in the playoff, I would say I Agree. Okay. But other than that, man, that the SEC better have five teams in this thing. That's all I'm gonna say. And I said that a while ago. I said that like two weeks ago and I still stand by it.
- [45:08]
Mitch Sherman
They better keep going back to it. Is the goal to have the best teams in there or is the goal to have the best story of a season or the, you know, the underdog that kind of had a great year and was unexpected or you know, I, I, to me it's to get the best teams in. And if you're watching these games, I think any an unbiased person would say that you have to have Ole Miss, you have to have Tennessee, you have to have Alabama, you have to have Georgia. I don't know the, the fifth I'm missing right now, but it's it, it you can mark make an argument for more than five.
- [45:44]
Todd McShay
You know what's interesting while we're just doing this? I while I sit here. Well, I've stole money from FanDuel and told everyone that I knew to go take money for like a dog with.
- [45:54]
Mitch Sherman
A bone right now.
- [45:55]
Todd McShay
I know I am easy money on the, on the same game parlay Georgia in the under. I, I also I'm texting them like non stop right. They actually call it Todd's Odds now like this hypothetical crazy.
- [46:11]
Mitch Sherman
I love it.
- [46:11]
Todd McShay
That comes up in my brain and it'll be like Wednesday at 8am and I'm like hey, can we get the so I was on a heater this morning. I don't know if you know, you saw on on X Twitter. I was just looking at the landscape. I'm like South Carolina is like the sixth or seventh team in the SEC and like yeah, there's not a real good clear path. I think they have like a 9% chance based off or whatever of finding their way into the college football playoffs. But I was interested to see so I gave him a list of teams who would be favored neutral site. And again I'm this is not me arguing for South Carolina to be in right. And quite honestly, if you want to make a strong argument for to get in South Carolina, you got to blow the doors off of Missouri today. And that didn't happen. It was a great game and all that.
- [46:59]
Mitch Sherman
Don't even get me started.
- [47:00]
Todd McShay
Missouri scored 24 second half points. But, but stick with my point here. Talking about how deep and strong the SEC is. That's the. We're talking about Texas. Yes, that's the point. Texas, Texas A and M, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama Ole Miss behind all of them is South Carolina.
- [47:21]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
And we're not even talking about them in the playoff. But I asked, I asked Fanduel, I said what would on a neutral, neutral site, give me some of these teams and give me the spreads in this game. South Carolina versus Indiana. What would your guess be? Mitch?
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Mitch Sherman
Did you see this?
- [47:38]
Todd McShay
You saw these?
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Mitch Sherman
I did. I can't remember though. Go ahead, Just go ahead and say.
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Todd McShay
Okay, Indiana would be minus three and a half. That's undefeated Indiana, who hasn't played anybody. But it's everybody out, only three and a half. BYU right now on track to go play as the Big 12 champion. But they've got to play Colorado now. I think Colorado has made very clear. We'll get to Colorado in a second. But BYU right now was the four seed and I think was ranked sixth in the last rankings.
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Mitch Sherman
They were ranked. I'll find it right now. Go ahead.
- [48:13]
Todd McShay
BYU ranked in the top eight, whatever it is.
- [48:16]
Mitch Sherman
Sixth, sixth.
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Todd McShay
So the sixth team in the committee's rankings head to head with the seventh team in the SEC, South Carolina. South Carolina, minus five. Not pick them, not minus three, minus five. Boise State, who's probably going to be the 12 seed that's going to get in and play that Ohio State team. If that's how the br. If the, you know, brackets. We're not allowed to call brackets apparently. But I don't work through somebody else anymore, so I can call, we can call them whatever we want on this show. The 12 versus 5 could be Boise State, South Carolina favored by five and a half. Neutral site against Boise. The one, the, the one team I was interested in, this one, Notre Dame. This is the biggest spread against South Carolina. Notre Dame would be favored by seven. I could tell you this, Fanduel, if that game were to happen, I would, I would steal more money from you. I would give me the points in South Carolina. But Notre Dame was the biggest favorite of all these.
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Mitch Sherman
That's interesting, man, because I feel like this week you were kind of coming around on Notre Dame and they might be sneaky. Good man.
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Todd McShay
I am. But I'm not giving seven against South Carolina. Carolina.
- [49:20]
Mitch Sherman
Okay.
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Todd McShay
Miami was minus three against South Carolina and smu, which will, will play Miami it looks like right now. Bar. Yeah. Something crazy happening because, because remember Clemson did win today. They escaped against Pitt club nick with a 50 yard touchdown right to save the day. Right after the offense ran for like McDonough was awesome that game. Did you watch any of that?
- [49:43]
Mitch Sherman
I didn't, I didn't watch it.
- [49:45]
Todd McShay
Out of his freaking mind, yelling at refs. It was the best. And it's so on point with the clock management. I, I traveled with Sean for like six years. I, I always said if I, If I wind up getting a GM job going in the NFL, I'm like, one of my first hires is going to be you with clock management. He's. He's fanatical, so he's yelling about all this stuff. But anyway, so Clemson pulls off that win. And so you. You sit there and you look and Clemson was on a run. They lost to Louisville. Well, that Louisville game is going to wind up being the thing that keeps them out because SMU beat Louisville head to head. Clemson lost to Louisville head to head. And so now it looks like it's gonna be Miami versus SMU in the.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [50:30]
Todd McShay
In the ACC championship.
- [50:32]
Mitch Sherman
Who lost to Stanford today.
- [50:34]
Todd McShay
But if SMU were to win that game against Miami and go in and they'd be the. They'd be the three seed in the tournament. They'd be. The three seed is the ACC champion.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [50:47]
Todd McShay
It would be. Pick them against South Carolina.
- [50:49]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
- [50:51]
Todd McShay
So I guess that's my point.
- [50:53]
Mitch Sherman
For whatever it's worth. I mean.
- [50:55]
Todd McShay
Yeah.
- [50:55]
Mitch Sherman
We're not the only ones who feel this way. Yeah. It's.
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Todd McShay
So if you think it's crazy to have five in the sec, I'm sure I'm giving you the seventh best team right now by the standings and rankings and all that. And by the way, South Carolina, just so you understand, they lost their three losses. And the LSU game was before they. That was a splintered program. Okay. They lost to Alabama, LSU and Ole Miss. Three of the top 10 teams in. In. In college football. And the Alabama and LSU games were by a combined five points. So I'm not out of my mind sitting here talking. Why is McShay at almost one in the morning talking about South Carolina, who barely beat Missouri today and going up and down. It's a greater point on. That's how deep and strong this SEC is. That's it. Right. All right. Moving on. One last thing. In. In the SEC, I wanted to get to Texas 2010 over Arkansas. Watch a bunch of that. We touched on Quinn Ewers. I thought his. His performance today was meh, meh, meh. Yeah. I thought they came out. They were aggressive early on. I want you to understand this mensch. No turnovers. But when I watched this game, I was expecting we were going to see. And yes, against Florida, they. They ripped him apart. Good tape. You know, yours played well. Nothing. Nothing. Crazy. Had a couple. A couple deep throws in that game. Deeper throws. A lot better than the week before. I forget the tape we watched the week before where Vandy. Vandy. And it was just check down Charlie screen game. Almost everything was within five yards of the line of scrimmage. A little bit better against Florida. Yep. Get to the by a little bit better against Florida. In terms of just watching his tape. I'm talking about.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [52:37]
Todd McShay
Offensively, they, they, you know, just, they. They ran it on Florida and Florida played really well today. But I'm going into this game and I'm watching like, Arkansas has the worst pass defense in the sec. So I'm expecting like, all right, this is a good opportunity. Getting close to the playup. We. We get. Hey, we just talked about A and M's on is looming. Okay. Then we got the SEC championship game. Now we're in the playoffs. Like, it's time to kind of ramp things up because I feel like I told you Sark's been protecting his guy and kind of bringing him back in and had the injury. I just. I did. And this is not on yours per se, and I'll let you touch on yours because I know you watched the game, but I'm watching and I'm wondering, like, the defense is. Is phenomenal. The defense is awesome for Texas. The defense, like, they shut it down. Arkansas scored 10 points and. And that quarterback's pretty good. The Boise State transfer. They put up some big numbers. That 95. Alfred Collins. We got to do this. Talk about fast.
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Mitch Sherman
This defensive tackle class is. Is all of a sudden real interesting, man.
- [53:44]
Todd McShay
So. But the offense, I. Now I'm looking around and I'm like, yeah, I got it. Jaden Blue, super fast at running back and explosive play waiting to happen. Isaiah Bond, super fast. He's probably according to like the. The. According to the miles per hour, the tracker and all that, the GPS. People think that he could run the fastest 40 at the combine. Got it. Gunner Helm, reliable, consistent, has emerged like really good player. Got it. But I don't see the consistency or like, the fear factor in this offense, do you?
- [54:22]
Mitch Sherman
No, no, I meant what have you seen? I was watching. I mean, we'll just kind of start with yours or stick with yours for a minute here. I told you I was flipping between the Colorado game and the Texas game, and I'm seeing Quin yours kind of. It seems like he's holding onto the ball too long. It seems like he's not confident in what his reads are. Just feels like he's not seeing it. He's not trusting it. He's not seeing it. And then I'll scramble and I'll, you know, break, break a tackle and make a great throw that it was. Receiver drops, but nothing's on schedule. Nothing's in rhythm. It just feels off. And then I flip over to Colorado and the touchdown pass that Shador Sanders throws to the kid Miller. And Miller had a great run after the catch, don't get me wrong. But it's. He's got six guys walked up on the line of scrimmage. At the snap of the ball, it's dropping. So all of a sudden you think six are coming, it's three. And all he does is hit the back foot, loft it over, just great touch throw over the linebacker in front of the corner in safety, and we're in business where we've got a touchdown. It looks. He was making it look effortless. Where everything I'm watching with Texas feels like the effort, it's just. It takes it so taxing for them just to get their offense going when they have all this talent. It's just not gelling, it's not clicking. And it's strange because I think. I think Sark is, you know, a genius.
- [55:45]
Todd McShay
Couldn't respect him more. Yeah, right.
- [55:47]
Mitch Sherman
I mean, what. Like, it's, it's so. It's. It's. I don't know if I have a good answer, to be honest with you, because the talent's there and sometimes that's okay.
- [55:54]
Todd McShay
Right? Like.
- [55:55]
Mitch Sherman
Right. I mean, I just don't.
- [55:56]
Todd McShay
Because I'm not sure they do.
- [55:57]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, I mean, if they, if they're not fixing it, how am I gonna fix it? To be honest with you. But. But I'm watching it and I'm like, I see the talent. They make plays. Even today. Yours just made this like, crazy throw after he broke a set. Like broke out of a would be sack. And it's like, wow, that's just impressive. But if you had just thrown to your first read or if you had thrown to your second read, you're not in that situation. It's like he's making his life more difficult than it has to be. And I'm not inside of his head, maybe he's not feeling that way, but it looks like to me he's not as confident in his reads and just letting it rip.
- [56:32]
Todd McShay
He had an early shot, an early deep shot he took and missed on that. And I, And, But I, I don't know, I felt like. Because remember, I. I come into this game and I'm thinking, all right, the worst pass defense in the sec. This is, this is a. Get right.
- [56:47]
Mitch Sherman
Here we go.
- [56:48]
Todd McShay
Here we go.
- [56:49]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [56:50]
Todd McShay
Take a deep shot early. Had the receiver just missed it. No problem. Like.
- [56:54]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [56:56]
Todd McShay
And then I think they took like one or two more. But the vast majority of the rest of the game, I just feel like I keep getting the same, I don't want to say PR spin, but it, it's almost like every game we come out of, except for Florida, because Florida, they, they ran it on. They. They just, they, you know, it was. It was a freight train against a broken Florida team at that time. But even in that game, it wasn't like. And a lot of like, downfield precision throws. It was stuff that, that Sark had schemed open.
- [57:29]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [57:30]
Todd McShay
Against the defense that.
- [57:31]
Mitch Sherman
That was double reverses and, you know, rollback and all these plays. Yeah.
- [57:35]
Todd McShay
Yes. And I just, I thought that. Okay, that's fine. They're so, they're so. They got two. Two high safeties and Kuiper's pissed at home because he wants to ban the two high. Like, I get. And I feel like it's the same message and maybe every defense is doing the same thing. So they're just forced schematically, like, scheme wise that, like. But this was a tight game, you know, like. Yeah, this wasn't one of those games where it's like, vandy, we've got this, but let's just get out of here unscathed, you know? No, I don't know. It just, it. Can I first. Go ahead.
- [58:05]
Mitch Sherman
Does this feel a little like deja vu? Tell me if I'm off. Does this season for yours feel a little bit like Levis? Last year for Kentucky. Remember when he went into. He went into the Tennessee game last year and everyone was throwing the ball around on Tennessee. I think it was Tennessee. And he just had a terrible game. And you just kept waiting for Will Levis because you knew he had the talent. It was two years ago. Sorry.
- [58:29]
Todd McShay
Two years ago.
- [58:29]
Mitch Sherman
You just kept waiting for him. Yeah. Two years ago. Sorry.
- [58:33]
Todd McShay
Yeah.
- [58:34]
Mitch Sherman
I had the time for him to have that monster game.
- [58:36]
Todd McShay
Yeah. I was, I was on the field.
- [58:37]
Mitch Sherman
Never came together for him. Right. And it was all the injuries and it was all this. And yours has been banged up a little bit this year. And I know they're different players, but it just kind of feels like a little bit, A little bit like deja vu for me.
- [58:49]
Todd McShay
Okay. Yeah. I just honestly, like, I'm not, I'm. People at Texas are probably. What. What the hell are you talking about? We, you know, we're. We got one loss. We're in great shape. The D. The defense is phenomenal. I just.
- [59:05]
Mitch Sherman
Their corner.
- [59:05]
Todd McShay
I keep waiting for, like, that next. That next step, and for them to be like, all right, we're roll. Like. Like I said two weeks ago, like, we got to see something different. Carson Beck, we saw in the loss. He's like, he. He's come. I want to see that next progression in yours. And, and, and I'm excited to see it when it happens. I really am. But. But right now I just wonder, okay, it's A M, It's SEC championship, we're in the playoffs. What is the actual. I guess that's my question, and I don't have an answer. And it sounds like you don't either. How would we. Like you said, what is the actual product? When we're in the biggest games with the brightest lights, like, and losing, you're out type situation, what's the product going to be on offense? I'm just, I'm curious to see because I don't.
- [59:49]
Mitch Sherman
Listen, right now, in fairness, we. I didn't see Georgia doing what they did tonight. So, you know, maybe the offensive line comes together at the right time and everything comes together, but it hasn't been very encouraging up to now.
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Todd McShay
Yeah. Couple more things I want to get to. Oh, go ahead.
- [60:06]
Mitch Sherman
Okay, go ahead. I was just going to say the corner. Jade Barron.
- [60:10]
Todd McShay
Oh, he was great today. I forgot to bring him.
- [60:11]
Mitch Sherman
He is. He does everything, man, so heavily on the outside. If you play and then they bring him in on third down, they kind of move on the middle of field and I'm like, man, if I'm an offs coordinator or quarterback coach, I'm like, know where seven is?
- [60:26]
Todd McShay
Yeah.
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Mitch Sherman
I don't care about anything. Third and third and long. Walk up and identify where seven is because he's going to do something that's going to impact this play, whether it's he's blitzing, whether he's making a play, like playing that kind of. That robber coverage. What. He can do so many different things. He's not that big of a kid.
- [60:42]
Todd McShay
He's like. He's like. He's like a skilled robber, like a thief.
- [60:45]
Mitch Sherman
You know, this is what I was thinking about every. Every Jaff class. You, like, you bring up guys, you're like, oh, he's just a good football player, man. You know? And you're like, I know he plays quarterback, but he's just a good football player. He's a line Good football.
- [60:56]
Todd McShay
That.
- [60:56]
Mitch Sherman
That's what J. Baron is, man. Loves the contact. You get the feeling. Just loves the grind. Loves the physicality of the game. Loves to be around it.
- [61:05]
Todd McShay
The mental part, like, oh, he's so. Yeah, Petrie was like that. He always. Yes, he's like 511, 190, like, wet with. Right. But he was always around the line and always, like, getting back tackles for loss, getting under. Well, with. With Baron today, it was a. It was an awesome plate. They bring him up and like, a lot of times as a quarterback, you see. All right, yeah, he's brought up. We got to account for him, but I can already see him starting to drop, you know, like. And he's a corner. So he pulled the. Take a step back and then shot through the A gap and uncontested. The offensive line didn't even try to pick him up. And he winds up with the sack on that plate. So it's like little mental games.
- [61:45]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [61:46]
Todd McShay
Guys that you could tell are taking it to the next level.
- [61:49]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [61:49]
Todd McShay
Baron's a dude.
- [61:51]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah. He's fun to watch, man. I think he loves the. I think he likes. Loves playing the game the way he plays it.
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Todd McShay
You want to talk about another freaking phenomenal football player? Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren. I know it was a blowout. I know we don't have to take more than 30 seconds on this, but, like, you're not going to be our tight end one and have another performance. Remember 17 catches against USC?
- [62:14]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
Like, how can he. How can he beat that? Well, at one point I saw a graphic on today, and again, it's Purdue. I get it. But like, I don't care who he's doing it against. There were like 17 snaps as a tight end. No, 19 snaps at like traditional tight end or offset tight end. Up tight end. 17 snaps at wide receiver, wide receiver, six at running back, four at quarterback.
- [62:41]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
And. And he finished it. So he first two. First two drives of the game. He had six catches for 81 yards and a touchdown. I don't care who they're playing.
- [62:52]
Mitch Sherman
Playing right, it's like 265 pounds. By the way, he.
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Todd McShay
Yes, he finished the game with. Listen to this. Eight for 127 and one touchdown in the passing as a receiver. Eight catches, 127. One carried the ball three times for 63 yards and another touchdown. That's 190 yards from script. He's a tight end. What are we talking about?
- [63:16]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, my buddy Chris. My buddy Chris went to Penn State. He is still mad that he didn't get a goal line carry against Ohio State on that last.
- [63:25]
Todd McShay
I mean, it's.
- [63:26]
Mitch Sherman
He is just so. He's 260. But my buddy Chris is heated that. That to this day, that. That didn't happen.
- [63:34]
Todd McShay
When you have a player like that, how is he not? And we said it at the time.
- [63:37]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah, you got a bad touch.
- [63:38]
Todd McShay
But. Yeah, but minimum two. If it's four, four downs, you're going. You know, you're going for minimum two, right? Yeah. Sorry to relive that. Penn State fans. One of the last things. Travis Hunter. Should we just give it to him?
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Mitch Sherman
Listen, you know what's funny? Today wasn't even his best game.
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Todd McShay
I know. But like, Phil, awesome. It's all, it's all about moments and, and, and hitting like milestones or so. Oh, look at this. This is awesome. Yeah, the guy. Daniel. Huh?
- [64:15]
Mitch Sherman
Love this.
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Todd McShay
We got a good Support cast here. 500. 590 snaps at receiver, 76 catches, 911 yards and nine touchdowns at receiver. All right, now the other side of the ball. 586 snaps. Holy. Like, almost identical. Almost identical. So it's not. This isn't something cute. This isn't Charles Woodson. This isn't Champ Bailey. No, this is like. This is something in the modern day. Let's call the modern era of college football. Since, since we've been in college. Like late 90s. Right. Okay, sure. When and what? Chuck. Chucky Woodson. Champ Bailey. They were late, I think. Champ Bailey back in. So Champ Bailey back in 1998. That's the last time we've seen a player with 40 plus receptions and three interceptions.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [65:12]
Todd McShay
In that club. Champ Bailey back in 19. Yeah. 20. 26 years.
- [65:18]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [65:21]
Todd McShay
Travis has done it twice.
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Mitch Sherman
I know. That's three players. It's three times in this job.
- [65:25]
Todd McShay
Three times in 26 years.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [65:28]
Todd McShay
And he's done it twice now. And it's. It's outrageous what he's doing. But why today? Well, I guess. I guess because he got that third interception.
- [65:38]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [65:38]
Todd McShay
Back in that milestone. Right. But that, that catch. Yeah, the catch that he made and. Yeah, the interception was cool. He caught it. Third interception. Get back in the club with Champ Bailey back in the club with yourself from a year ago and, and return it for six and, and strike the pose. That's a moment. But that catch that he made on offense when he. It was almost like he, he got caught and then he like. Like a cannon shot him up in the air and it was flailing and still had to hold on the ball as he came down and just popped right up. Like. Like, I mean, there's nothing I don't.
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Mitch Sherman
Can't do.
- [66:16]
Todd McShay
There's nothing he can't do. He's special. Meanwhile, crime is.
- [66:20]
Mitch Sherman
Hold on. The crime is that Ashton Gentee at Boise State is having.
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Todd McShay
That was my. Meanwhile. He. He listened. The meanwhile for me was Boise State's undefeated. Ashton Genti's carrying that team. He had 32 more carries for 159 more yards and three more touchdowns today. And. Well, yeah, just give it to Travis. Yeah.
- [66:39]
Mitch Sherman
He's like, what do I have to do?
- [66:41]
Todd McShay
I do love how it's not the best quarterback on the best team this year. And that to me, like, yeah, I. I was kind of out on the Heisman. Not. Not out. I have a vote. I take a great deal of pride in that. I am honored to have a vote and I love that. I just love the pageantry. I love the history of it. I watched every. Of course it does. But I, I don't like when we get into a rut where it's best quarterback on all that and it. And it ain't this year. And it partly circumstance, but mostly because we. The top two guys in my opinion, are a wide receiver, cornerback, and then a running back. So it's. It's. It's cool. It's. It's like exciting this year to me.
- [67:18]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [67:19]
Todd McShay
But now let's talk about Colorado real quick.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah, go for it.
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Todd McShay
Nice win. Pulled away. Best team in the. In the Big 12. I'm convinced. I've watched more Colorado tape than I probably watched of any other school in the country. Especially particularly the offense. Not the defense, but the offense because of. Because of Shador and, and Travis at receiver.
- [67:41]
Mitch Sherman
Right.
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Todd McShay
I'm convinced. I am convinced. What's the score right now? We're on at 12:44am Eastern time in the morning.
- [67:50]
Mitch Sherman
BYU.
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Todd McShay
BYU right now, 13:10 over Kansas early fourth 13:10 Kansas. I might win that pool again this week. M. I told you, when I get on a heater, ride me. It might take nine, 10 weeks, but I'll get on one. But Kansas. So I'm looking at this, the remaining schedule for Colorado. I just like, don't mess it up. I've got to Colorado in the Big 12 championship game. I've got to have Colorado in the playoff. And I don't care if I'm accused of rooting. I am. I am rooting for it. I'm rooting for it for. Because I want to see. I told you. For a great Policy for a great playoff for for the attention and the hype and everything but for draft prep like I we've talked about we've got to see Shador in the College Football Playoff against that kind of just like Cam Ward against that level of. Of competition defensively weekend so but at that Kansas game scares me. I know you look at the record in Kansas coming into the Utah game scare me today three and yeah but they, they were down to like their ninth quarterback.
- [68:52]
Mitch Sherman
I know but that team's always tough. It's always well coached. You don't if you take them lightly I think that you could Utah can still be you but they, I mean they handle them. It was 25 point win.
- [69:02]
Todd McShay
There were two games on the schedule that that scare that were dead giveaways to pound the fan book. The fanduel book. Right.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [69:14]
Todd McShay
And it was Georgia and I did and I hope I made everyone who listens and watched this podcast every Tuesday.
- [69:20]
Mitch Sherman
Never listen to my gambling advice every.
- [69:22]
Todd McShay
Tuesday and Thursday and then our live shows right after right after the prime time game every Saturday night for the college football season. So we appreciate you downloading subscribe liking all the things you do tell a friend because you know what's going to happen if you're going to ride this heater at the end of the year. You're going to be a rich human being. So I don't even know. I know I'm just having fun but. But can't. But Kansas was the other one because you know what byu Undefeated BYU playing at home against. Against a three. Oh. What? Hold on. I just had it. Kansas is three and six.
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Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
- [69:58]
Todd McShay
In that game was. No BYU was minus two and a half Mensch.
- [70:04]
Mitch Sherman
Really.
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Todd McShay
Yes. That's when. When something's that fishy you gotta take Kansas and Yeah. Look look at it. 13:10. I'm not saying they're going to win but like you got there somebody. It's a Coach Corso. Somebody knows something and I'm going with somebody's. Right?
- [70:19]
Mitch Sherman
Yeah.
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Todd McShay
But back to my point, I'm worried about at Kansas next week for Colorado because that could, that could throw a wrench in everything. But at Kansas, then Oklahoma State and then the Big 12 championship if they. If they win their final two games. And and oh and by the way our good friends. I hope they still are after tonight. Our good friends at FanDuel also this is another Todd's odds hypothetical out of like who knows what Colorado BYU neutral site. What. What do you got? M. What do you think?
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Mitch Sherman
Colorado minus five.
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Todd McShay
You Saw it.
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Mitch Sherman
Did I see it?
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Todd McShay
Yeah, you saw it. It's five. That's right. But Colorado, clearly, if FanDuel believes it and our eyes see it, Colorado is the best team in the Big 12.
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Mitch Sherman
I agree.
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Todd McShay
Anything else on your. On your mind? I got one last.
- [71:16]
Mitch Sherman
You want a tight 45 minutes on. On Beamer ball today or should we just leave that for another day? Probably leave that for another day. I almost lost my mind during. Give me.
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Todd McShay
Give me. Give. Give me the one for five. You're up. I hope I have this right. My friend. My friend's out there. He. He's. He's referencing the Missouri South Carolina game. There was. It should not have been.
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Mitch Sherman
They're on their own. 37 South Carolina.
- [71:41]
Todd McShay
I'm gonna have to play by play this for you. Doing play.
- [71:43]
Mitch Sherman
I honestly want to make sure that I've got this right. But this is how I remember.
- [71:48]
Todd McShay
If you're not. If you're not watching this, I want to. I want to let you know for the. The. The. The. The audio folks out there. He looks like he has a migraine right now.
- [71:59]
Mitch Sherman
I. He. I just don't understand why he doesn't punt the ball like they lost.
- [72:03]
Todd McShay
Give us the situation. Mensch.
- [72:05]
Mitch Sherman
If I'm right, it was fourth and one, their own 37. They're up in the two minutes left in the third quarter. I think they're up 15, but that doesn't sound right now. And they go for it and don't get it. Missouri goes in and scores. Why it. You are. You are Frank Beamer's son. How are you not punting the ball there?
- [72:25]
Todd McShay
That pissed you off? You even text me about that?
- [72:27]
Mitch Sherman
Listen, that game. That game had no business being tight. 21, six at half. I don't think it had.
- [72:33]
Todd McShay
Like.
- [72:34]
Mitch Sherman
He's lucky that Lenora Sellers turned into Superman at the end of that game. Do you know good Lenora Sellers was in that game? 353 yards. Five touchdowns.
- [72:45]
Todd McShay
Sometimes the quarterback's gonna save the coach's ass. You know, speaking of coaches and speaking of things we're fired up about, let's. Let's leave on a really high note. You ready? M. I don't even know that you know we're gonna do this.
- [73:00]
Mitch Sherman
You see this early in the third quarter, but still.
- [73:03]
Todd McShay
Do you see that helmet behind me? Yes.
- [73:06]
Mitch Sherman
Sorry.
- [73:06]
Todd McShay
Yes. Where are you from? What are you, a spider? Whatever.
- [73:12]
Mitch Sherman
Spiders don't have homes.
- [73:14]
Todd McShay
Richmond Spiders, man. Congratulations. I want to give you a shout out on this show. Love what you're doing. We're watching you. We appreciate you always pulling for the Spiders. Richmond with Winston October, as you mentioned as the offensive coordinator who we played with the biggest Cavs in coaching right now. I've confirmed that. Have you ever seen a dude like Winston wasn't the biggest dude of all time but the calves, the calves per like body ratio on that dude. But his he's. Go ahead.
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Mitch Sherman
He was a great punt returner in the cfl. He was a great punt returner at Richmond.
- [73:49]
Todd McShay
Yes.
- [73:49]
Mitch Sherman
And then he was a heat seeking missile on defense that he was pound for pound the toughest guy on our team.
- [73:55]
Todd McShay
Probably that was the first time. But watching him hit, he wouldn't. He never. He still hasn't wrapped a player up in his life. His watching his shoulder pad. I don't he targeting and launching and all that. I don't know. I don't know how far of Winston's career would have gone in this with this new. Anyway, so Richmond, they lost two games early on the season. Virginia and Wofford, they haven't lost a game since early September. They've won eight straight. With the win today over Hampton 2421 they win their second straight CAA conference title. And Saturday, I know we got some big games going on in the, in the FBS but like you gotta tune in 135th edition of the Capital cup next Saturday. William and Mary, let's go. Winston, Richmond, we're here for you. Congratulations.
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Mitch Sherman
Big win. Beat that tribe.
- [74:48]
Todd McShay
All right. I think that's it for us tonight. We appreciate you. It's always fun. I love this show. Yeah, it's, you know, I hope, hope people start to, hope it starts to catch on. People want to join us. We've got to do more questions and answers and get, and get everyone involved with the show. We've got to be better about that. We're just getting our kind of our feet settled in. But next week I'm going to put some emphasis on it. We're going to have to, we're going to have to get more questions during the live chat. Make it more interactive. Also this week we've got shows on Tuesday as we talked about. We've got a show on Thursday as we talked about. Please send us some questions. I'm @mcshay13. It's probably the best. Let's send out a tweet on Monday from both of us. You're at Scouts Inc. Mensch.
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Mitch Sherman
Yep.
- [75:33]
Todd McShay
Your fingers don't get tired typing it. Scouts Inc. Mensch. But let's get some questions and let's start, start to answer some questions about this past weekend. Looking forward to the games this weekend, NFL draft questions. We'll send out a tweet on Monday to try to get everyone involved. I think that's the one thing we've done a terrible job of, that we're going to get better on moving forward. Men. I love you, man. Love you, too. All right. Well, we'll see you on Tuesday. Must be 21 plus and present in select states. For Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18/ plus and present in D.C. gambling problem, call 1-800- GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com, call 1888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New York.