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Announcer
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
The board. The 2027 Quarterback Class Part 5 is today with John Matier from Oklahoma, Trinidad Chambers from Ole Miss. Two undersized quarterbacks, second year after transferring. A lot of similarities. Where are we on the tape? Just 294 days until the NFL draft. Good men.
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I'm great, man.
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Roll that beat took. The Netflix thing keeps getting better. I'm excited about it. I. I know, I know. It's like, let's bring in a bunch of shows and we're kind of like getting caught up and all that. But, like, it's out immediately. We don't worry about the lag time. Love, love people just talking to people around the country, like, getting texts, all that. Like, yo, Netflix. And I'm like, yeah, we've been on Netflix for a long time, so appreciate everyone starting to watch a little bit more and more on Netflix. This episode is presented by EA Sports College Football 27, where you can engineer your team the way you want. And if you want the full football experience, try the MVP bundle. I'm already getting pressured from the boys in this house. We got to get it. We got to get it right. Well, I'm going to cave. You get college football 27 Madden NFL 27 plus deluxe edition rewards in both games to help you go from campus legend to NFL superstar. Make your rise. With the MVP bundle available now, conditions and restrictions apply. CEA.com games/EA-sports-college-football/college-football-27/ game disclaimers for details. Obviously, Spotify is our. Is our home base, so you can watch and listen there. And Apple as well. So give the likes subscribes, all that fun stuff. But I'm pumped for today's show. Go.
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You were on TV forever. Is it still kind of surreal to see when you pop on Netflix, to see your face up there and see our show?
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Not surreal, no. If I'm being honest.
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For me, it's. I mean, I've. I mean, I'm like, how did this happen? You know what I mean? It's a different thing for me because, you know, I don't have your background. We went to watch a show on Netflix last night and there. There we are. It's still kind of cool to me.
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Yeah, no, it's. It's cool. I'm not. I'm not downplaying. I'm not. I'm not being nonchalant, man, as the kids say.
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However,
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what is cool is like, Netflix hasn't always done this. And, like, love Netflix. We all love it, right? So to see it there and then like have, have our, you know, the kids and, and just different people across the country who maybe didn't know about our show. It pops up on there. So, so that part is really, really cool. And, and I know we're all working try to grow this thing.
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Right?
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The funny part is my printer is now working and most people would stop down because we're taping this. I'm not going to. I want everyone to hear the. Because I've been trying to print my notes for like 45 minutes and now all of a sudden we start the show and now the printer is going to work and I'm not going to get up and go get it. I'm doing the show without the notes. Forget it. John Matier, fascinating situation. Loved him at Washington State. An absolute wild man. Transfers to Oklahoma, didn't go as planned last year. The thumb injury well documented. We'll get into all of it now. He's got, he's got another shot at this thing. A full season. Healthy, adjusted arm angle, adjusted throwing motion. What are we going to get from him then? Trinidad chambliss, these are two just fascinating stories. Both guys around 6ft. Neither guy's like the tallest quarterback, the biggest. But they're both thickly built materials. A fullback in his lower body.
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Yes.
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Both, both mobile, both have some speed, both running threats, both just rip the frickin football, man. You want to watch some guys that have no fear to rip it into a tight window. These are two guys, Trinidad Shambless and John Mattier and Chambliss coming in from, from Ferris State. Lightly recruited lightly 240 something ranked quarterback in the transfer portal. Why Lane Kiffin's kind of got his choice of a bunch of them but he also had a starter there. Right. And so with Austin Simmons who winds up getting injured, Trinidad gets an opportunity. So while everyone wants to go play for Lane, most people, most quarterbacks would. They're also like if I transfer in I might wind up being Austin Simmons backup. So it was a tricky spot. So Lane had to hand pick a guy that he thought would want this opportunity that could play outplay like, like through the stratosphere. What the ranking was by some, you know, some of these up and coming recruiting scouting services for the, the transfer portal. Right. And he goes on to have the season that he does. Let's dive right into it because these two guys are like we, we did Arch versus Dante. We had like Julian saying versus car. You Arch and Dante like who's number one Stay in car. Like these big time blue blood programs. We've got the at the explosive plays with Sorsby versus Sellers. This one's intriguing because what's going to happen in year two at this stop? They both play the game with just no fear, reckless abandon. Right.
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And I just love watching them both play the game.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
So when I throw to you mentioned, say, I know you just grinded the tape the last 48 hours for both of these guys. I know we watched a lot of them in season last year because of what Oklahoma and Ole Miss, respectively were doing in terms of the College Football Playoff race. But when you had free, kind of free of mind. Draft isn't impending. We don't have games each week. And you just sit down, you watch the tape on both these guys. Give me your biggest takeaway.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I'll kind of reiterate what you just said in that I love both of these players. I love watching them play. I love how competitive they are. The tape was really fun to watch, I'll say that. But I am far more optimistic about one of them as an NFL prospect and it was not the player I expected it to be going into this process.
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That's a, that's a good hook because as you started to say, I'm far more intrigued by one of them or interested in one of them. I had one of them very clear in mind for me. Okay. And then you, and then you said, but it might not be the guy that you think. So I'm interested to see if it really is a curveball.
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Yeah.
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My biggest takeaway. You ready for this? And it's kind of random and it's very specific. My biggest takeaway, man, is, and I said it several times during our pre draft lead up, you know, to the 2026 draft, that the best individual tape of any player in that class, in my opinion, was Fernando Mendoza. Indiana's offense, specifically what Mendoza did in that Big Ten championship game against Ohio State.
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Right.
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And there's no need to do apples to apples comparison. But what I'm telling you right now is my biggest takeaway from watching both of these guys. And there were a lot of takeaways that we'll get to, but the number one thing that stood out to me is that Ole Miss versus Georgia game. That tape of Trinidad Champions playoff game. The playoff, sorry, the playoff game.
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Correct.
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Of the. This is now the ninth and 10th quarterbacks we've done in the building. The board series. Right. That's the best tape I've seen of any of these 10 quarterbacks. That one tape. And it also was late in the season and it gives you. And it was without Lane Kiffin on the strings as the play caller. That tape made me go, huh? Because if this is the guy we're getting for 12 to 15, 16 games next year, something like, like that, this thing could get real interesting. Right? Because. And then you look at scouting services and how, how high Chambliss is on some of those boards. We reached out to NFL scouts and Chambers was always in like the top five or six quarterbacks when they were texting us back before the way too early mock draft, talked some of the all star games. Chambliss is viewed, I think a lot higher as an NFL prospect by some than maybe the public would think. And then I go to the Manning passing Academy and this means zero percent in the scouting evaluation. I was kind of stunned as we watched different reactions from all the high school campers and some of the adults there on the other side of the stands on the Friday Night Lights. The most beloved player of all those great quarterbacks from across the country was Trinidad Chambliss. This guy's got a chance to have a pretty special year is I guess what I'm getting to here, even without Lane Kiffin. So let's get into it, man. Strengths start with Matier or Chambliss, wherever you want to go.
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Well, I'll start with Chambliss and I'm going to repeat a couple of things you just said, but I just, I think it's worth putting it all together. Okay. And the biggest strength for Chambliss, and it's, it's a part of a big part of our show is the onions. The onions on this kid to go from being a one year starter at Division 2 Fair State. He was at Ferris State, by the way, but he, and he won a national championship there. But he only started for one year. Wasn't like he was. This guy was letting me on fire.
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It's important to say that at Ferris State, he, he red shirted and had to overcome a serious, like, respiratory illness. Right?
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah.
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And that's, that's the.
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Why.
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It's not like it kind of sucked and then came out of nowhere. He was dealing with something, man. And so when he got his shot, it's like, here he goes, national championship. Right. But to your point, it wasn't like three years starting at Ferris State. It was one year that. That lane saw and plucked him.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Correct. So he goes. Now he ends up. And he goes to Ole Miss and he's going to be the backup. So you wonder when you're in that situation, what's your mindset? Are you ready to. Are you really ready to go? If you get your call. If you get the call. And he was his third start. He leads lsu, I mean, Ole Miss to win over lsu. I mean, that's just a game that, you know, historically Ole Miss isn't going to win that game, but he leads him to a win. Then you go into Georgia, I think it's two or three weeks later, and it. We get the feeling of maybe, maybe there's some cracks here that are getting revealed. Remember in that game, almost, almost got up.
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Oh, the fourth quarter was brutal. That fourth quarter.
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It felt like it just fell apart at the end. And maybe this is it. Well, guess what? Next week he goes into Oklahoma. They have a nine point lead at halftime. Oklahoma scores 17 points in the third quarter. Oh, you're on the road. This is going to be a problem. This, this is really where the wheels fall off.
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He settles everything down, has a big fourth quarter, leads Ole Miss to a win in that game. And then you just look at how the rest of the season unfolds. Lane Kiffin leaves at the beginning of the playoff run. No problem. He played some of his best football in those three games. And you mentioned the Georgia game. That is not a game that you would think LSU would win. Georgia doesn't lose those games. And, and you can't tell me the. No, Georgia doesn't lose those games. And Georgia did lose to Ole Miss. That's what I mean.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Yeah, Georgia. You said lsu, but it's fine. Go ahead.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Okay, so Georgia doesn't lose.
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I'm just interrupting you and being a pain in the ass, that's all. I'm doing fine.
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It's fine. I get it. I'm on a roll. They don't lose those Games, he finds a way to win that game for them. Right? Then you look at the Miami game, they lose that game. He is the play that defines this young man. I think is the go ahead 24 yard touchdown with less than four minutes against Miami in the playoff game. And he sees Keante Scott, this kid who's not even 6ft tall from Ferris State, wasn't going to start at the beginning of the year. Sees Keonte Scott creeping up for the safety blitz and points at him, waves him on, says, all right, big boy, I know you're coming. Come on. And then throws an absolute dime to his tight end for a 24 yard touchdown. And you could leave it at that if you wanted to because we know what happens next. Miami just rolls down the field and scores and they end up winning the game.
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Yeah, but they scored 18 seconds left.
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You might forget. You might forget that it gets him down to the 35 yard line and gives them a chance to win that game. Clearly pass interference. But no one, no one's gonna call it. I get that.
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Two throws, two throws, 40 yards. He leads them down the field and they're absolute rockets. Laser.
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Never out of it. Man, with this kid, you feel like
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you're never out of it.
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Onions, onions, onions. And by the way, you can even add to it. Oh, everyone's telling me, and I was with you, McShay. I'm not going to. I'm not being critical of you. Everyone's telling me, like, give up the. Give up the fight. You're not going to get another year. Just give up the fight. Just go to the NFL. He's like, no, I. We got this. I'm going to get this. We're going to get that injunction. We're going to be able to go back. I'm going to bet on myself doing this. This is the right path for me, and I believe it's the right thing to do. And he does it, and it is.
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What else got scary because there was a moment there where, where it looked like he wasn't going to win the injunction and he had missed the Senior Bowl. He was going to miss the combine. And like, I was worried about him, and it was like, is he going to try to jump in late to this? Rightfully so, so, so unsure. In fact, I got this information late. I was sent an original copy from an NFL team directly of the. Of the combine and each position group prior to the. Prior to the combine as an NFL team, you are sent by the. It's called nis, the National Scouting Service. Right you're sent the list of each, each position the players like it'll be QB1, QB2, all the way down to QB15, let's say. And it's all by alphabetical. Right. Guess who was in there and then scratched off because he had just was Trinidad Shambles. He was so much so that the NFL just prioritized to the combine was like we're, we're expecting he's going to be here, you know. So anyway, that whole, his whole I hate the word journey in today's day and age, but his whole path, man.
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Yeah.
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Has, has been like a Disney movie.
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And like words like swagger and aura. I hate all of them. They're all like, you could use them with this kid though. I mean he's just different.
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He has a level of confidence. And I wrote, yeah, he has a level of confidence. There were a couple moments where things started to fall apart and you could see him be like, no and that like you talked about the draw. So let's get into his traits a little bit. Right?
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Yeah.
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He is listed by one of the scouting services as 511 7. So essentially six foot but five five eleven and seven eighths of an inch. So he is a quote unquote undersized quarterback. I mean we've seen Russell Wilson, we've seen Bryce Young, we've seen a lot of guys right around that all the way back to Drew Brees. Like right around that, that six foot range or shorter.
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Right.
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So it's not, it's not what it used to be. Especially when you bring some mobility movement in the pocket, fine, passing windows extend, get out all that stuff. But he isn't the tallest quarterback.
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So that's not, it's not like a debilitating knock, but it's not a, it's not a plus. On his scouting report he's listed like 208. I, I just saw him in person. I'd be shocked if you put him on a scale right now if he's not 215. And I only say that because I like my shorter like Jaden Daniels. He isn't short, but he concerns me with the durability when you got that lean linear frame, right. Just about durability long term. Same with Bryce Young. Okay, so he, he's, he's thicker.
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I like, I like his, his build for whatever that's worth. It got him listed at 465. I actually think he's faster but, but it seems like all these 40 times for whatever it's Worth are a little conservative with quarterbacks. I here's what I appreciate him when we appreciate about him when we're talking about his strengths. The obvious is. And there's no two plays are more. If you had. If you're like McShay, give me two plays to show me what you're talking about. I'd say, all right, go to go to The Georgia game 1452 and then 1412, fourth quarter, right. And in terms of his ability to extend instincts, creativity, throwing on the run, all that stuff like the one remember, he kind of. He rolls out a little to the right, he circles back to his left on the run, shows a little touch, throws it in there to his receiver, picks up the first down, then the next one is kind of rolling to his right and drills one. They were kind of legendary plays for him, right. But you see it throughout his tape. So he's got that element of creativity, extending some magic, right. As a passer. My gosh, man. Like, he just rips the ball. He doesn't have a conscience. Guys like that scare me. They are deadly assassins. He does like he knows what he can't. Some guys to overestimate what they have. In terms of ball A to B where I can get it, I don't see a lot of that. I see some misses. I see. And we'll get to some of his weaknesses. So let's focus on the strikes. But he fits the ball into some windows, drives it down the field. His deep ball accuracy, I want to touch on that and the weaknesses too in a little bit. But the placement, even though the trajectory could change sometimes, some of the ways he placed like outside shoulder receiving receiver still in bounds, but leads him like to catch and go out of bounds safe away from the defender. They're spectacular.
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Yeah, like you think about those NFL throws you have to make against tight man coverage. And he has the confidence and the ability to put it in front of the receiver where he can go to the ball. Where some other guys you. Some of these college schemes, you see these receivers are wide open. You're not going to get as much of that in the. In the NFL. And he's a guy who's going to. He's. And some of it's his timing to me. Some of it is it's so he's. I love his release, by the way. Can I just say that I know we're going to get into a problem with it in a minute, but his compact over the top, he can change his angle if he needs to so quick and well, he's the modern, the
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modern day quarterback who like, it doesn't matter, 6, 6 foot or 6, 4. He very clearly like has worked with the right people. Hip torque, short stride, everything's compact.
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Yep.
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It's, you know, it's like a firing range with this kid.
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Yeah. When you do that, when you're, when
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you're, you know what I mean, when
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your brain is quick to react, you have that, that release and then you're accurate. You can throw into some really tight windows against zone looks. You can, you can take advantage of the single coverage. Even if a guy's right there, like it's, it's impressive.
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The release, the ball explodes off his hand and it's, it's from that hip, the hip torque that he generates. And like you said. Yeah, it's this combination. I'm just going to reiterate what you just said. It's this combination of fast eyes, decisiveness, confidence in what he's seeing, confidence also in what he, what he knows he can throw. And then it all is like, you know, it's like fat. It's out. Yeah, it's just out.
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And good luck defending that.
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Even an energy. So those are all the positives. How about, how about Matier, his positives?
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I will go, I'll be kind of specific here. I think it's his power base and I think it's both as his ability to expend extend plays within the pocket. I mean he can shake off guys who look like they have dead or rights and extend plays. I think also as a runner, he is a guy that in short yardage and goal line situations is someone you have to be aware of because of his ability to break tackles and push the pile in short yardage situations. He also as a runner is instinctive and he can make guys miss. So like maybe it's his running ability. I would go more specifically about his power base. And without getting too much into the negatives right here, if he's on, if he's able to unlock his footwork, he might have, he might have the most energy on the ball as a passer in this class.
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Yeah, I, I'd be remiss if I didn't start with, with John Matiere and his strengths. Like I want him in my foxhole, man. Yes. Oh, yeah. Both of these cats, like you tell me, we're going like we got a fight in the alley and unfortunately we're stuck in this situation and I can grab two of these guys. I'm not saying over anybody else. I'M just saying, like, you give me Mater and you give me Chambliss. The way they compete, like their undying effort, their. Their inability to give up on something.
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Correct.
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I mean, material. Go ahead.
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No business playing in that Texas game. I mean, no business. After he. He breaks his thumb against Auburn and misses Kent State the next week and then tries to come back against Texas. There are some throws on that that, that Texas tape is tough to watch because you see a human being who's just trying to. And his body's not reacting the way that he wants it to, and he's just gutting it out, trying to make plays, and it's really affected in the second half of the season, I would say, but he has no business playing against Texas. But he wasn't going to miss it. He could not miss it.
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The things that Lane has said to me about. And publicly, too, about Trinidad as a human, confidence, picking up things, football intelligence and just the love he had still has, but you know what I mean, like, as his head coach and then talking specifically to Nagy about Mater, about Mater and who he is as a human and what he believes in and the team first and just the toughness that you see on tape. But we're not in the building. Like, both these guys have the makeup that you're dying to get in your quarterback.
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Right.
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Any position, quite frankly, but, but especially at that position. I think Mattier shows fast eyes at times. I think, you know, working with Arbuckle, his offensive coordinator, who came with him from Washington State, has allowed, like, he understands where, where the reads are, what he's looking at. He thrives in turbulence. He's the pilot that, like, gets bored on the, on the, the flight from the LaGuardia to Logan flight. You know, we're up in the air, smooth flight.
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He's doing the flybys at Top Gun. He's just going to buzz the tower.
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Yeah, he gets bored as hell with that stuff, which we can get to weaknesses in a little bit. Yeah, he loves the flight from. From Miami. From Miami to Boston or from, from New York to la. When you're going over the mountains or you're dealing with Southern storms and you're weaving in and out and you're dropping 10,000 like he loves. He's the type of guy who's gonna fly into the Hurricane with the right plane and get a reading for us, you know what I mean? And that's the stuff I talked about with, like, Jackson Dart coming off of Josh Allen Mahomes. There are certain guys that just seem like they're like their blood pressure doesn't rise. They're more calm in that chaos. I'm actually surprised at his tape is littered with brilliant throws. But it's also littered and we'll get to it but. But it's worth mentioning it's also littered with errant off target throws that don't need to be right. And because of the footwork stuff which I think is important. Let's just lay it out now. I saw him at the Manning passing academy. I was very hesitant to like I don't like I'm coming back from the Manning passing academy. John Mattier has changed his throwing motion. His releases is a little bit more compact and a little bit lower with as all the quarterbacks are doing now. His the hip torque, the consistency, the repetitive stroke that I'm seeing from Mater is what I'm seeing from these 1400 robots that are all going to the same coach type style camp that my, my 11 year old son Tate is doing. They show up before practice, they get the balls and the weighted balls in their hands. They're doing this and then when they're done with that they get on a knee and they throw up against the fence. And when they're done with throwing against the fence that, that weighted ball they stand up and they do this throw right. And they're all working the same mechanics now. And I think it's a great thing for the future of the quarterback position material wasn't Mattier was throwing like a 1980s asshole like me.
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He reminds me of. He reminds me of a second baseman who's always trying to turn to. He always wants the, he wants the ball out of his glove and he's trying to whip it to first base as. As fast as possible. Mechanics technique be damned. Don't care. Just trying to make a play.
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And I always found it remarkable how much energy he gets on the ball because so much of it is upper body. But he has this weird way when like the back. I don't know like he, I could.
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He locks his hip which really prevents him from like. Yeah.
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So if he's getting that much velocity and he's making these brilliant throws with his lower body. I went back to my, my, my notes from last year which I did print in advance because they're from last year preseason and I remember I wrote this. He needs like Arbuckle coming with him is a great thing. Familiarity, the system, the success they've had. But I remember you and I specifically talking last season when we did something similar to this quarterback series, but this is more refined in a much better way to do it that that. My hope is that Mattier has drilled his footwork and has worked diligently to play within the structure and patience of an offense. Like, I talked over and over again about how it was a great thing that his coordinator is coming, but I hope he's working with somebody else, because it's not necessarily a college offensive coordinator's job to get that refinement, that repetitive motion there was the biggest thing. My takeaway. I love so much about his game, but if he could just get a more repetitive motion, that more compact, hip torque driving it in like all these other young quarterbacks are doing now, he could be, A, he could get more energy on the ball, which, like, wasn't even really a concern. But B, and most importantly, hit the spots that he needs to hit. Yes, the layups, when they're there. He was like a river. He's a riverboat gambler as a passer, which is awesome at times, but it's, like, maddening at other times when he's missed. I watched that Illinois. I went back this morning, man, and watched that Illinois State game because I hadn't watched that, because I watched the Michigan. I watched the Auburn. I saw the other ones in the middle of season, but they weren't helpful at all. I watched Alabama. They weren't Alabama. He had a little time to rest, and he looked a little bit more like himself, but still wasn't totally himself. So I'm like, you know what? There's a tape out there I haven't seen. Let me see. It was underwhelming. Illinois State was underwhelming. There were just a lot of missed throws, easy stuff. So I'm so. I don't want to put too much emphasis on this because I told you, like, my golf swing. I have a great plan until we're on, like, and maybe two holes, and then I get into a tough spot in the third hole and it's a mess. I've actually even started working on my throwing motion because I'm throwing more passes now than I even think I was in high school and college because I got a young comeback. He's a junkie. And so I'm always throwing the ball and I'm watching the way they're. They're drilling it. I'm talking to Alex McLaughlin with M2QB, and I'm going to Manning Passing Academy. I'm like, all right, let's get the. This actually is going to save some Strain on my aging arm and now all of a sudden like my arm doesn't hurt after throwing a thousand balls, you know. So I'm excited to see what he does with this. But I also don't want to put too much emphasis on it because if he comes out and it's kind of the same old thing. It's the same old thing. All right, let's get to. We go ahead. Sorry.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I'll just say like when he throws over the middle, it's, it is a, a roller coaster because he misses high so much. The one other thing I'll say that was tough for me was evaluating. When you watch him later in the year, the accuracy is tough to evaluate because I just think at that point, the injury, I mean it exasperated what was already. The issues that were already there.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I would also say, yeah, I would
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
also say some of the decision making stuff, it reminded me a little bit of someone who gets.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
So we're on week now.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I'm talking about Mater still.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Yeah, but when he's.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah, but when he's put in a corner and you're kind of a wounded animal at that point, you start to do things that you wouldn't normally do if you're 100% right. And I think it affected his decision making as well as his accuracy. I think he's like, I, I'm not throwing as well over the middle, so I'm going to try to make a play with my feet or I'm going to try and make, I'm going to try and drive a ball downfield into coverage. It was kind of a, it was tough because I felt like it was kind of a wash at that point. So he's another player that, you know, you take what you can out of that tape and we watch him at Washington State two years ago and some of the hole balls that he was throwing, like he was making some outrageous throws at Washington State years before the injury.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
He was that, that Cannock crosser that he throws against Michigan and makes a one hand catch. But like quite frankly, if he had just stayed with his angle right. Perfect ball like thrown from off platform even though it didn't need to be off platform because that's just the way he throws and it's like over a linebacker before the SAF safety leads him perfectly up the, like beautiful. And then he comes right back to Satania down the right rail.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Beautiful ball. A cover two beater. It's like I said, it's littered with brilliant throws and it's. But it's also littered with unnecessary off target throws. Like he threw a pick against Illinois state. It's like 21 to 3 in that game at Villanoy. I mean, granted, Oklahoma's defense is one of the best in the country, so it was understandable. But it's 213 in the third quarter. Man, he throws it.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
We don't need that.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Yeah, we don't. We don't need that. And that if it was a team with a good offense like that. That's a tight. A tight game.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
The matier moments is the other aspect. Now that we're into the weaknesses, I'm interested to see with like refined motion. Second year sec going back, rinse, refine, repeat like this. This should be the best of mater in terms of decision making that we talk about. That delicate balance of I am exceptional in chaos and I'm an absolute train killer when things aren't right and I can create, I can improv right? But I also got to learn that these mistakes I'm making here and there are debilitating to my team and I got away with it more at Washington State, but I ain't here. And we're going to be a really good defensive team and hopefully for Oklahoma's sake, they run the football a little bit better. I have a role within this offense that is first and foremost, and then my role expands when something's not there. And I use my proper judgment on when to be matier and be a wild man, but also when to dial it back, pick up three, throw it away, take a sack, whatever I got to do. So, yeah, those are the two things. It's the mechanics, the repetitiveness of his stroke in order to be more consistent with the placement. And then it's the, it's the dialing back of some of those, those critical error. They're. They're unnecessary. They're unnecessary. And I, I just love the guy so much. I love the way he plays. I like, I pull for guys like this. I'm not gonna shy away from it. I really do.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Why would you. You can have favorites as long as you recognize the bias and it doesn't affect your final grade. I hate when people are like, oh, it's.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
It's Herm Edwards, man, the way he always told his players, everyone's getting treated fairly when it comes to grading, evaluating, all that. And you'll see, you'll see when I give you. Give you my grade on mater, everyone's getting treated fairly, but maybe not equally. When I'm watching on a Saturday and it doesn't mean I'm pulling for Oklahoma. I'm not. I just want to see, I want to see the best of him. Just like I want to see the best of Chambliss and Saiyan and Car and Art. I really do. But some guys are like, extra fun to watch because I know there's some, some special stuff in there. So. But I, but I also want to see him get smarter with age and more game experience. And this, this opportunity at Oklahoma is awesome. One, because they're building a great program there. They've got it all in line. You get Satania coming back, and I want to see him have a big year. And honestly, who doesn't want to see the best of this prospect? I want all these, these 10 guys we've done so far. We're going to continue. I want. Because that creates an awesome environment when we lead up to the draft. And it creates, of course, an amazing season in college football. Right? All right, Chambliss, we glazed them.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I don't Know why I can't get over using that term? It's a little. It's. It's whatever. It's funny to me, but.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
But, but he's imperfect just like the rest of us.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
What are the weak? What weakness stands out or what?
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Well, I mean, the height. The height is an issue. I want to make sure I got the number right here. According to psf, according to pff, 16, he had 16 passes batted down. So there is, you know, as much as I like the release, it is a lower point just because of his height. So that's an issue. And then you hit on it too. There's these occasional, like, almost inexplicable misses every once in a while on throws that I see him make that he should be making in his sleep and he makes four out of five times, but all of a sudden he short arms it. And that, that to me were the. Those were the two things that I would pick. And then also nitpicking a little bit, and this is just nitpicking. I'd almost like to see him run a little because he's such a good runner that I think there's. He could. He could maybe explore that part of his game a little bit more and be more of a threat as a runner, but that's just nitpicking.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I think finesse throws are his kryptonite right now. Not totally dissimilar from. From the Lenora Sellers, what I saw, but. And not as extreme, but. And then the hard part is he will layer a throw.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah, I don't see it as much as you.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
He shows the ability to throw with finesse, but there are some throws that need a little more arc, need a little bit more air. He's so good at ripping it and it's just like this repetitive thing for him. And it's like I see a. A means go. Like it's like a race car driver. Like that. That light turns green, foot to the floor. I want to see him add that element to his game a little bit. I think it's going to help him lead a receiver to some yards after catch. I think it's going to allow him to not have that wild like balls like just four yards away. It doesn't all have to be that. There's a lot of throws that I saw on tape with him where I'm like, it's just like the inability to throw with touch on certain throws that require touch. Or maybe it's not inability, I guess is the question I was asking. Myself throughout.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Watching his tape, I don't know that it's inability. I think it's like the practice of recognizing right. As a quarterback, sometimes you have to recognize this, this throw requires a different angle. Well, I was going to go back to flying planes for some reason. I told you. Both my parents worked for Delta Airlines. So I guess it's just ingrained in me flying up like not every, not every landing requires the same landing. Like landed a little different. You know we got a storm, the wind's blowing like we want to come in but sometimes like let's, let's finesse that thing down a little and so, and it sounds like nitpicking but it's actually really not. I think that's the next step in his, his evolution, if you will.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
But I, I want to see that this year. And let's also. It's not a weakness and he, he disproved it immediately against Georgia. But now we enter a season where every sec, every opponent on the schedule.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
You're not sneaking up on anyone this year, my man.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
You're just not. Yeah.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I have a question for you about this, by the way.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
The bundle, by the way is College Football 27 and Madden 27. You get the bundle, you get early access. Today's the 8th of July. That means. Or we're taping on the 8th. Let's just be honest. It's going to be the night. So when you're watching this on Thursday morning, you still get the access and get. And you get a pre order of Madden. So. And I know I'm, I'm already, I'm already getting ready to make that purchase.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Quick question. I can't. That might be like the first Thing I do when we get off the show. Quick question. What team and I guess maybe not specifically, what team do you take? Are you a guy who's going with a blue blood? Are you like, oh, we'll start with Ohio State? Are you going with a smaller program? My son Tyler for the last two years now, Marshall, Thundering Herd. I'm like, why Marshall? He's like, why not? I'm going. And I think it was because he loved. Remember the Marshall head coach after, after the Ohio State game, made some comments about trying to get kids play for him. I think that coach and Tyler was like, I'm taking the Thundering Herd. That's my team now. But what do you go with?
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I'm a quarterback receiver guy. I want the best. But the irony is the way I beat these young punks because they, they're, they have, they get to log more hours. I have a day job.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
The way I beat these young punks is I, I actually take the air out a little bit and it drives them crazy. I test their seven seconds of patient, like their seven second attention span that everyone has now and I slow them down and it, and they, and I, and I'm literally watching them like standing up and looking around because they can't last. Well, it lasts 12 seconds and they don't even know that. So I hope they're not watching the show. I purposely slow the game down and then work tempos. But then when, but when I go to throw, I want a receiving core and I want a quarterback that can drill it. I don't get in. I don't run the quarterback. Much mobility for me in both Madden.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Oh no, that's not your game. That's never been.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
No, no. Tate's a big running quarterback guy. Like I, I'm, I, I'm going to beat you in the pocket, but I'm going to run the ball a little bit and I'm going to tempo your ass to death. Love it. Where were we? Dan texting us that annoying guy online who runs power. I, yeah, I'll mix it in. I will, I'll mix it in.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I will say this. I think it's a little, I mean you could find a, find an upstart. You know what I mean? Like you don't have to go with the blue blood. You don't have to be Ohio State every time. But I get it.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
You know me, I, I need, I need a, I need a draft prostitute prospect quarterback and I need to have a Satania with matier. I need to have an arch thrown to a Cam Coleman. The Wingo. I just, I like that stuff. Let's not all, let's also not glaze over the fact that that last year he threw for almost 4, 000 yards. Chambers did 22 touchdowns, just three interceptions.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I don't have three interceptions by the way.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
That's what I'm saying.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
So I don't get away with some, but that's a number that pops out.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Three, you would think is a first year starter in the sec. Second year starter overall. There would be more moments of, of not melt up, but just like it's going too fast.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
The crowd's too loud. It's overwhelmed. I never felt like outside of that fourth quarter against Georgia that he was overwhelmed or the game was too fast, which is pretty awesome. But now to your point, I want to finish on the weaknesses. Like this is going to be really intriguing to see. He's had a wild off season. Obviously he's settled down now. He's got a new, new play caller, new head coach that was there for the College Football Playoff. But now you're starting a season and everyone knows what you do well. Everyone's had a whole summer to watch your, what your weaknesses are and how do you rinse that awesome season. Rinse that, that all the court injunction, all the stuff that you went through and, and refine both your game, but also the potential of what teams are going to throw at you in order to go back out there and repeat and hopefully for his sake, repeat that Georgia game 12 to 16 times this season.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Right. And what's that receiver room look like? I think, I think they've got talent in there, but it's. There's some turnover there. That's going to be interesting to see how that all develops and how.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
No question, no question. Quick on this. Talk to me about going to the NFL. What's the transition? What are you looking for? How do you project that transition for both or either of these guys?
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
This is why I led with that. I think when you look at the accuracy, the decision making, the confidence, I think you would agree that Chambers has better touch the material, even if you think it's an area he needs to improve in.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Agreed.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Chambers. Chambers just seems more ready to make an impact at the NFL level. Now. Mater is fascinating because the tools are in the ceilings. The ceiling is exciting. So if he can unlock that stuff, he can repeat the throwing motion like we both hope that he does this year. It'll be interesting to see where we stand at the end of the Year, but coming off of last year, I think Chambliss is far more ready to make an impact in the NFL.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Chambers game translates, man. And that's what we're talking about here. How does it translate? It does. In an NFL where mobility is more important than ever before, but not necessarily like running, but extending, moving inside the pocket, creating but most importantly the just fast decisions, ball out, fast hitting spots. It translates. There's, there's improvement we've got to see and we just mentioned some of, some of those areas. But I see in Chambliss a guy, it's going to translate even though he's five eleven and seven eighths of an inch. I don't, I don't. Yes. The sixteen ball is batted down so there's areas to like work. And I think that for him it's. You're not changing his throwing motion because, because so much of that is what makes him great or like his arm. Get out of here. But what you are doing is studying Drew Brees.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yes.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
If I'm that Ole Miss staff and I'm working with Chambers, whoever, whoever his, his guy or his inner circle, I'm making him watch Drew Brees because I don't know.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I think.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
But yeah, Russell, so those two, they're two of the best to ever do it as shorter quarterbacks that found windows with subtle movement inside the pocket. Matier's game, conversely as, as previously constructed, if his mechanics don't become, if they don't stick and we don't see the. Them become part of his repetitive motion. Like I don't, I don't know that you trust him in the NFL and that's where I'm, that's where I'm struggling because the brilliance is awesome. And you know what? As a backup coming in certain spots and all that, he can create and do some things and get, get some, get a fire lit. But as an every week starter, if he's not more consistent with his placement, I don't know. And with his decisions, it's going to be hard for him to emerge as one of 32 in the world. You know what I mean? That's where I am with Mater, but I promise you, I think he's capable.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Oh yeah.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I think he's got a lot of the things that you need to be great in the NFL. Starting with the burning fire, the football intelligence, the way he attacks the game in addition to the toughness, the mobility, the ability to rip the ball. But his Chambliss game right now, believe it or not, is it translates a little bit more. All right, let's get to the grades. I'm going to. I love doing this review now because now it's starting to fill out this board. And we've got Nico, I am Ali Ava coming up. We got demarc Williams coming up. We got Mesta Maker transferring from North Texas to Oklahoma State coming up. We've got. We got my Ava from USC coming up. I'm interested. I'm excited to tell you some of the things I've learned about him and what he's done this off season. And I don't know if I'm so I'm not ruling out that one of those. In fact, you go to some of the scouting companies or scouting services, if you will, that the NFL teams utilize, you'd be shocked, I think, by how high Williams and Emaliava are on those lists ahead of some of these guys that we have that we featured in the. In this building the board. 2027 quarterback class for the first 10 quarterbacks. But this allows us, with the 10 that we've done to round out the top 10. I'm going to remind folks, for both mention I we're we're about even. Call it a 95, a 94.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
We'll.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
We'll do a full show at the end where we. We rip through all our grades that we're going to start the season with. But Dante won sellers 2. I've got Levitt at 3. Sam Levitt transferred to LSU. Mensch does not car. And that's gonna be interesting when we have to do our show together where.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I know, I know.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I don't look forward to that because it got uncomfortable. Even you had to like text Marissa to make sure everything was okay.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I was like, what a rush. I was good about car.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Car and arch around a 92. Let's say it 91. Car and arch kind of identical grades, very different players. So Dante, Sellers, car, arch Levitt either before those two or after those two are. It's kind of. And I think for you, you had mensa at at 6, at 5. So we got to sort that out. But those are the top six, right? Saying in Soursby being seven and eight, understanding that Sorsby could be top five if we knew he had a season to play, given his tools and could actually make the advancements he needs to. But he's a wild card. So with all that said, those are the top eight quarterbacks we've done with grades in basically that order. Where. And are you higher on chambliss or Mater? Grade wise Chambliss. Okay. I thought so. Where are you then? Let's go Mater first. Where are you putting Mater? What grade would you have on him again?
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Behind the curtain. We don't get to do this. I don't get to hide anymore. I would argue that we should not have him on our board. We don't have enough information to be super confident in the grade. But I gave him an 84. I think that, I think that's almost, I mean that's optimistic about where we are right now. But I just couldn't go any higher than that with the, with the accuracy issues. I think it could go either way with him and I'm really hoping it goes well.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I wrote down 78 with a weight like a wait and see.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah, I mean it's the same thought
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
and I'm fine with 84. 84 is like kind of what you're hoping to see and believing that the work he's done, the off season is going to translate into what we kind of we can envision if everything goes right.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Right. Yep.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I'm going 78 because he's not there yet. I haven't seen it in a game. I love so many things. I'm still going to give him a high in early third round grade based off of our scale, but it's still a backup that you hope you can develop at this point. Our grades are not based off of rounds. They're based off of historically matching them up when it's very high in the 90s and then beyond that it's like second third round grades are. These are guys are backups but we see enough potential you could develop them into a starter.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Tyler Shuck being on the highest end of that. Right. Just to give a recent example. And then when you get to day three, guys like, yeah, we're going to find a. There's going to be a Tom Brady, there's going to be a Brock Purdy every once in a while. But, but historically it's like 90 something percent of those guys don't become like multi year starters in the league.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Right.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
So that's where we are on Mattier presently. We're both kind of saying back up, let's see what he's got this year. Certainly we will adjust the grade as it goes but we got to see it in a game, you know. All right, Chambliss, Chambliss. This one's going to be fascinating.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
He is the sixth best quarterback in this class. I gave him 89.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I'm giving your first five. Then give me your first five.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Then it would be okay. Now you put me on the spot. Dante Sellers.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Yep.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Car Arch, Mensa, Chambliss.
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Ahead of Levitt. Ahead of Levitt and ahead of Soresby. Obviously insane.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yep.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
And I had obviously mater. My printer starting to print again, too. And nobody else is in this house. It's just got a mind of its own.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Every time this happens, I just imagine Tate is upstairs with an app hooked up to your printer, like, print, you know, just.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Just messing with you. He's at lacrosse camp. My daughter's going to pick up. I'm going to Noah Khan tonight.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I don't know why you're not looking forward to this.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I would be, because I'm going with. I'm going with Marissa and four girls who are 14 years old. Old and younger.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
That's a different thing, I guess.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I. I actually liked some of his stuff for a while, and I. I've been forced to listen to some of this stuff to get ready for this concert. The new. The new album. Great Divide, I think it is.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Yeah. My kids got me it on vinyl for Father's Day.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice or Guest Announcer
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
You like the new album?
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I do. I don't understand why some songs like Orbiter is not on the vinyl and it's on.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I feel like it's a little.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I don't know how that all works.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice or Guest Announcer
Phil.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
That's what he is, man. But that. He's therapy for this generation.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
You're depressed.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice or Guest Announcer
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Announcer
Yeah,
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
you are amazing. I would like to say.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I'd like to be.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I would like to be categorized as depressed and not depressing, but thanks, man. I appreciate it.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
No, depressed. You're. You like your. I'll be melancholy.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I'm like, you know.
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Sponsor/Ad Voice or Guest Announcer
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Like, I like to see you like your music. Music. Depressed. Yes.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I'm not afraid of a sad song.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I just don't need to be sitting in. In Fenway park tonight, which I'm thrilled about. I don't need to be sitting in Fenway listening to, like, some sad songs. So I'm hoping. Hey, I heard he put Tap into the Feelings. I. I hope we come back on Monday.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
And I'm like, whoa, I miss you. What an awesome time. But I'm going in a little skeptical. I don't know how we got on that Chambliss. For me, I gave Chambliss a 90.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
I'm okay with that, man.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
I think it's a fair grade. And if you said I had to give him a 91 I would. 92. I can't go there yet. I want to see this year. 89. 89. I'd push back. I think he deserves to have a 90 grade based off of where we are right now. And a 90 grade then for me means I have personally Dante, Sellers, Levitt and then identical grade grades. Car, Arch and then Mensah and then Chambliss.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
The great thing is we're now getting our buckets. That's one of the things I'm really liking about this exercise is these, we feel like these guys are right there and these guys are right there. So I like that part of it.
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But for me at least I'm telling you, preseason, I've never ever, ever once ever in 26 years of doing this had seven guys and I'm, I'm conservative at some positions and like give, what do we call them? We give them the grades we give in the summer. They're like, they're, I don't know, they're like night friendly grades.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
We grade. Yes, it's something along that line.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Yeah. Like mercy, like a mercy grade or like. Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna bang a guy in the summer. Things are good. But there's definitely a summer curve that we grade on.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
Okay, but, but I've never had seven. But, but the quarterbacks, I almost go the opposite way. I don't want to. Like, like let me let him, let him play his way into a 90 plus. Great. I've never had seven guys. I don't know that I've had four or five guys. I told you. Even the 2024 class that had six drafted in the first 1212. Michael Penix was a, was a day two guy coming into the year. I had three guys that had first round grades going into that. No, I had two going into two guys. Yeah, two. Caleb and Drake. Jaden was, was a day two guy. Bo Nix was a day two guy. Fringe, to be honest with you, McCarthy was a day two. Pennix was a day. So like this is, this is going to be intrigued. Yes. It could all explode. They could all suck this year because I can hear people right now like comments and all that stuff but right Now I've got seven guys where I'm like I'm cool with the 90 or above.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Can I give you the weather analogy? And I don't know enough about this to go in this route because I need to do more background. But it's like hurricane season. What are we looking at for hurricane season this year? And all of the indicators are telling us it's going to be a big hurricane season. Sometimes it doesn't happen. Sometimes, you know, the weather shifts and it changes. But when you're looking at all like whether it's, you know, El Nino or
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whatever it is year this year, whatever, these guys wave in massive storms. So, like I'm the indicators are there
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
for this to be a big quarterback season.
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Host 1 (likely a lead analyst or main host)
All right, let's get out of here. We're back on Monday. We're going to hit two more quarterbacks. We're going to do a fun segment with with EA on on Josh Hoover's another quarterback we're going to get to in Indiana. And what kind of potential dynasty are we looking at? We got a lot of fun stuff coming up and we're going to recap at some point in the next week or so when we get through all these quarterbacks kind of who who the our top 10, top 12 is, whatever it is. So it's this has been I love the way we're doing it this year. It also helps to have this many really good quarterbacks. But, but we are, I feel like we're kind of just warming up. Then we'll take a minute off when everyone else in the NFL and college football due in late July and then we'll be back in August and we get so much to get to leading up to the college football season. So Mensch five stars. Let's get out of here.
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Host 2 (co-host or analyst)
Thanks, man.
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