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Daniel Jeremiah
Day three of the NFL draft is in the books and we're ready to recap it with 14 of our favorite picks. Plus, what happened with these quarterbacks. You know, there's 363 days until the 2027 NFL Draft met you Good.
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Steve Muench
I was. Until you did that duck roll that. Hey,
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Daniel Jeremiah
Done in a lot of different ways. I've sat on the set through rain, through heat. I sat in Dallas and was melting. I sat in Chicago, was sideways frozen rain. Man. I'm happy to be in LA with my good friend Steve Mensch going through a recap show of day three of the draft. You're listening to the McShay show, presented by FanDuel. And soon we'll all be listening to all the names called in this year's NFL Draft. But with FanDuel, you don't have to just listen because FanDuel has all kinds of bets on where players will land. You know, I love this stuff. Not only can you bet on who will be drafted first overall, but you can also bet on whether a player will go in the top five, top ten, and so much more. So if you don't already have it, be sure to download the FanDuel sportsbook app today. Must be 21 and older in select states. 18 plus in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER, call 1-887-897777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut. We. We watched it all, man. There was a lot of. Honestly, this, this draft sucks. I talked to an NFL scout who said this is the Nil has ruined the draft and this is. There's no players to be had. Get out of here. Like, I get it. Maybe six, seventh round, there's not as much depth, but there are a lot of intriguing picks today. And I promise you, 63% of the league last year, 63% of the league was from day three of the draft.
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Steve Muench
I didn't know that. Yeah. Wow.
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Daniel Jeremiah
So today's kind of important and we're here to go. We actually, we didn't come up with any, any number that we had to get to. We. We just mentioned. I talked after we watched the Draft on day three, rounds four through seven, and decided these 14 picks were the ones that stood out to us. So we're going to walk you through these 14 picks, tell you why they stood out, the impact that these players are going to make and how that made the team that drafted him better. Okay, then we're going to get to the quarterbacks, which was wild Study and
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Daniel Jeremiah
June 30th terms at aka mscollegepc. Right. But let's get to the picks first met start it off. We start the day after 100 picks in the first three rounds Thursday and Friday with pick one. Oh one. And that one jumped out to you.
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Steve Muench
Yeah, didn't jump out to everyone. I mean it's Jamon McCoy, the corner from Tennessee who it feels like five minutes ago we were talking about potentially being in the top corner in this class in a top 15 if not a top 10 pick. So obviously he fell because of concerns about the knee. Right?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Steve Muench
ACL missed all of last year. There's concerns about it being a long term issue, how it will affect his his durability over the course of his career. All those things. That's why the player fell. But if you're looking for a risk versus reward this dude, when you look at his tape in 2024, there is a reason why he was so highly ranked by so many people. He might be the best man to man corner in this class.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Steve Muench
And if you're in Las Vegas and you're comfortable enough with the durability that you can get a good player. Listen, this is a four year deal. You are signing him to a four year deal. If you feel good about four years from this player, this potentially turns into an absolute steal. Now is corner their most pressing need? No, it's not. But you get a young talented player where the value is too good to pass up. You're trying to improve the overall your overall roster. I love that pick. As long as. Listen, as long as you're comfortable with the durability for. For four years.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. Here's the deal man. You're looking. It's a risk reward, you know, risk assessment if we will. Right. And the Raiders are looking at this as we're still rebuilding and we just brought in at the number one overall pick John Spytax. Like we got our quarterback but Kirk Cousins going to start the season. Yeah. And at some point we're going to insert Fernando Mendoza and that we're building towards getting to a point where we go into the 2027 season feeling really good about that things. Right. So we have all sorts of needs coming in. It was obviously the quarterback position, wide receiver, safety. No cycle. But corner was on the, on the top five list for us because, yeah, they brought in Toron Johnson at nickel, but they drafted an upgrade, I believe, and I know he's a nickel safety. We'll see how they work it out in this defensive scheme under Rob Leonard, the coordinator. But now I got a playmaking four, three, like, dude in Stuke Stukes that I drafted earlier and I'm getting McCoy in the fourth round. And yes, talking to teams, it's like they're looking at the risk of this, saying he's going to be ready to go. We just saw him work out. It wasn't like, great, great, but he's getting back to where we need him to be. He ran in the four threes at the his. At his private workout. And on top of that, like, yes, the medical is saying the word degenerative. That's what you're hearing with the knee injury. Now the assessment is there's a chance you get to that second contract that you talk about in four years and it kind of takes away from what he could do from a long term standpoint in the NFL. But I'm talking about year two, 20, 27, trying to put the best 22 on the field. Exactly. And this guy could be a starter. Yeah. We drafted Darien Porter in the third round last year. Okay. We brought, we got Max Stokes, obviously from Green Bay, you know, a couple years back.
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Steve Muench
Eric Stokes.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, Eric Stokes. Yep. And. And now we got Stukes trade and Stukes from. From Arizona, who we just drafted. We brought in Toron Johnson. Now we got McCoy.
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Steve Muench
Yeah. And Porter, look, you hope he takes the next step this year, but he was. He didn't really light the world on fire with his rookie season. So a little more insurance there, a little more competition, you're improving the overall roster.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, I like that pick a lot at that point.
- [07:06]
Steve Muench
Right, exactly.
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Daniel Jeremiah
And there was talk like, you know, his agent, Mulagueda frustrates some owners because he runs, drives a hard bargain and like, it is what it is. You want to be represented by people who are going to drive a hard bargain for you. And the people in the league get frustrated because of some of the situations that arise because of it. I'm not here to judge one or the other. I'm here to tell you maybe the way the process was handled, the medical reports, all those things combined to where teams were like, we'll Wait and see where he's where he is in the fourth round. Well, he got to the first pick of the fourth round and so it was good to see McCoy come off the board. That must have been a brutal two days for a young man who is talented enough on talent alone to be a top 10 to 15 pick in this draft. Okay, the next pick that jumped out to me, man, I loved.
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Steve Muench
He's your guy, one of your guys.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I loved. Grayson Halton, defensive tackle, interior defensive lineman from Oklahoma. Halton is not the biggest cat, right. He's a one technique, three technique type. What do I mean by that? It means in like a 4, 3 that has a, that has a nose tackle. He's that kind of guy where you're looking, not your traditional zero technique. Who's like, who's the big citrus from Iowa State? Dominique orange. Right. Not a 335, 340 pound guy, just taking up space. This is a guy who could play his nose tackle and create penetration pressure if you will, like quick first step, get up there and cause wreak some havoc. Or at three technique, you can do the same. And I like that versatility as well. Right. He gets drafted at 109 by the San Francisco 49ers. And I just, I look back at my notes on, on Halton season ends he two years. He's productive, keeps getting better, right. Finishes the last two years with 63 tackles, 13 tackles for loss, eight and a half sacks, has 59 pressures. Okay. He's actually a better run defender than he is pass rusher in terms of finishing, getting home. And listen, he's not one of those run. You know, you see the defensive lineman, they run the loop, right? And you're trying to see the body control when they get there, are they able to kind of steer quickly? Are they the titanic? I'm not saying he's the titanic, but he's certainly not like a speedboat who's going to turn, turn that quickly. So he leaves some sacks on the field, but pressures half the game, man. I mean, talk to Saban about that. One of his biggest things is talking to Nick, like, sacks are the most overrated stat in football. Give me pressures.
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Steve Muench
Do you affect the quarterback?
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. Do you affect the quarterback and then. And flush him out for other defenders and flush him out so he can make a mistake. So 59 pressures he has the last couple of years. Yes, he's six two and a half, 293 pounds, but he runs a four eight two at the combine, man. He's a 36 and a half inch vertical. That's like running back, wide receiver stuff at that size. And so at the Senior bowl, it's like he and Lee Hunter are very clearly the two best interior defensive linemen. Now all of a sudden, he's sitting there. I had a late second. Well, I had a third. We landed on third with him. In terms of grade, he was 80th player overall on the, on the board. And the 49ers get him at 1:09. And I look at San Francisco and I say, man, this is a perfect spot. You're talking about a rotation getting after guys. Alfred Collins, drafted last year in the second round, we got Odigizua, OSA Digizua brought in from Dallas. CJ west, drafted in the fourth round last year. Now we got four guys. And for these penetrating defensive tackles, you want to keep those legs fresh. I think this is going to wind up being a really big pick for San Francisco.
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Steve Muench
Yeah, I mean, their pass rush fell apart because of injuries last year. You need a guy who can, can generate some of that for them, whether you get it off the edge or in the middle. I mean, I'd rather interior pass rushes at times because it's the quickest way to get to the quarterback and affect them.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I'll take the next pick, too. The next pick out of the 14 that we really liked was Jonah Coleman. I battled this for so long, and I feel like a sellout, man. I like Jonah Coleman's tape more than Mike Washington Jr's from Arkansas. The problem is Mike. Mike Washington Jr from Arkansas ran what he ran and mentioned. We'll get to it in a little bit, I think ran what he ran. And you see the explosive numbers. Well, Jonah Coleman, who was more consistently productive throughout his career, he didn't run and he didn't run because you can call it whatever you want. Didn't run because he's not that fast. And you watch him on tape, that's the biggest knock. You see him get tracked down from behind at times, and he's not going to be a guy who, you know, catches a crease and goes for 50. But guess what? To me, that's an overrated aspect of the running back position. Go back in history to even like Emmett Johnson. Right. Emmett Smith. So you got, you got a running back who's been productive and at three things that really stood out to me when watching his tape. The first is the vision. The second is the shiftiness, like the short area, quickness. And the third is the contact balance. Those are my Three favorite things at the running back position. So you got a bowling ball with eyes and a little.
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Steve Muench
Okay, that's what he is, man.
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Daniel Jeremiah
He's a bowling ball with great eyes.
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Steve Muench
The body type is insane. Did you give the height and weight?
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Daniel Jeremiah
He's 5, 8. I was just 5, 8, 2, 20. Just picture a bowling ball. You got a remote control on that can go with great eyes and vision for the hole. Oh, and by the way, he catches the ball well.
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Steve Muench
Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
31 receptions last year. We talked all about Jeremiah love. Averaged over 10 yards per catch, 10.4 yards per catch. Guess what? He was 11.4 yards per catch last year. And it wasn't like on 8 catches. It was on 31 receptions. Good amount in college, man. So I love where he was drafted. You got the Broncos, right? And they target the guys they want, and he winds up being the third back off the board. And I'm a sucker for not doing it, but I also appreciate the fact that it's kind of what they do.
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Steve Muench
Right?
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Daniel Jeremiah
That's what Sean does. He's going to see his guy and he's going to take him. They did it last year with RJ Harvey. Right. They got Dobbins coming back. He's got the Liz Frank injury. Sounds like he's going to be good, but you worry about that kind of resurfacing. RJ Harvey had some moments, but wasn't what they hoped. Totally. Now you get three backs to rotate now as the season goes on. Seventeen games, some injuries. Whatever happens, you get three guys. I think Jonah Coleman's going to play a pretty good role for the Broncos, and we're Talking about the 110th pick.
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Steve Muench
Overall depth and talent right now is what you're getting. And MJD and a little Morris Jones. Drew body type.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
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Steve Muench
It's not like he's a chunky 220 dude.
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Daniel Jeremiah
It looks like a.
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Steve Muench
He's just all muscle.
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Daniel Jeremiah
It's.
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Steve Muench
It's a crazy body type. All right, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. The 14th pick in the fourth round. You know what? You knew I was going to love this pick as soon as it happened. The Cowboys take Florida corner Devin Moore.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yes, that's your guy.
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Steve Muench
Devin Moore, I think, is being undervalued for a couple of reasons. One, there are durability issues. Man, this guy's had a hard time staying healthy, and even this year when he played In, I think, 12 games, you felt like he had kind of gotten over the hump. Well, ends up he gets groin surgery. After the season. And it really affected the way that he ran. He didn't run well the combine. He ran the four fives. Not the end of the world, but we expected a much faster time. Then he ran his pro day and ran even slower. Well, he's recovering from groin surgery. He was trying to compete, but he wasn't going to run well. He says that he runs in the high four threes. McShay says he runs in the high four threes. I don't believe McShay. I want to see, I want to see that speed on tape. And when you see Devin Moore turn and run with Chris Brazil, who did run in the four threes at the combine, you get a feeling for how fast this kid is when he's healthy. I just think for Dallas to get this kind of a talent again, he's got to stay healthy. But this is a guy who has a frame at six three and a quarter inch with 31 five inch arms. And again, don't, don't look at the combine time. It's 4:5. I think this guy's a 4:3 guy. I really believe that this is a corner that has potential to be not only a starter. I think he has potential to be a number one corner for an NFL team if he can stay healthy. Christian Parker now gets another piece of for his defense. You want to improve a Dallas defense that gave up way too many plays, way too many passing touchdowns, here's how you do it. You go out and get edge rushers like Malachi Lawrence. You add a guy in Jean Barum. When you want to do these different kind of pressures, simulated pressures where guys are dropping, guys are rushing. That is Jaan Barm. He is a perfect fit for that scheme. You now have these two talented edge guys and you add this talented corner. I mean, oh, yeah, not to mention, by the way, sorry, want to improve that pass defense. Go get the best safety to come out in quite some time in Caleb Downs of Ohio State. I mean, they, this was clearly the goal and they have attacked it. And I think they've targeted the right players of the system and gotten good value at the picks.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, I, I love the pick. I mean, anytime you talk about a guy in the fourth round, this is where you get gems, man. You take some, take some hacks. You're not afforded as a GM the luxury of taking, taking like real big risks. Unless you're Minnesota with Caleb Banks, like, right. Most general managers steer clear of those risks until you get to a certain area of the draft and the higher the reward with that risk, the earlier you're willing to take. This is a player with a pretty good reward, not as high as Caleb Banks, but still pretty high. So get him in the fourth round. You're feeling pretty good.
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Steve Muench
The big guy is a corner guy all of a sudden. I'm a corner guy all of a sudden.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I like it. I like it. All right, next up for me, Elijah Surratt was a tough evaluation, the wide receiver from Indiana, because, my gosh, is he productive? Does he deliver in big moments? Is he reliable? Right, but he doesn't run well, and he's not explosive. And so you kind of have to figure out, all right, how do I balance that when I've got. I've got other big receivers like Trey Lance running in the four threes out of North Dakota State. I got Ted Hurst from Georgia State, not producing at these. At Indiana in these big games against Oregon and Iowa and Penn State in the College Football Playoff, right? And so, to me, I put him just inside the top 100. Elijah Surat, 3,000, almost 3,000 receiving yards in his career. Young, I love the story, too. Starts out at St. Francis, okay? Then it's James Madison. Then Signetti with a bunch of other players like you. You're. You're with me. Let's go. Indiana, first year there, they make the College Football Playoff. He's the guy, okay? He's six, two and a half, 210 pounds, longer arms, big hands, catches almost everything, 3.6% drop rate, big, reliable possession target. Then this past year, he comes back in and, like, same deal. You got Omar Cooper Jr. He's awesome. You got. You got the. The slot guy who's like, six four. Becker. Charlie Becker. Okay, so they got some talent, but he's still in the moments. I love the story to Devonte Adams. Watching the tape with. With Aaron Rodgers and Devonte Adams, and the back shoulder fade stuff over the summer sends it to Mendoza and says, we got to get great at this. Think back to the Indiana season, how many times they needed it on a third down, a fourth down, fourth quarter, red zone, back shoulder, fade. Surat. So it's the kind of, like, work ethic, care for the game, all the little things that you need. I wasn't shocked that he got to the fourth, but where they got him was a great value. The Baltimore Ravens, at 115, select Elijah Surratt. And then I look at the depth chart, and we were talking, coming in this draft, man, they need a fourth. They got, like, Rashad Bateman, does his Thing they've got. They've got Tez Walker does is they're hopeful will continue to get better. All surrounding Zay Flowers, obviously, but their fourth was Lajante Western. With all due respect, they could use an upgrade over that or at least have another guy. And Elijah Surratt, to me, will wind up being the fourth receiver for the Baltimore Ravens. It's pretty damn good spot to get your fourth receiver.
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Steve Muench
Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Early in the fourth round.
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Steve Muench
And another big frame guy. Yeah, I love that pick, too.
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Daniel Jeremiah
All right, what's next?
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Steve Muench
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers go out and get Keonte Scott, the nickel corner, I really think, for Miami, but we'll see where they play him. This guy is fun to watch. I mean, he ran in the low four threes at his pro day, so he's got. He's got speed.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I knew he was fast, but I didn't think it was like that.
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Steve Muench
No, no, he's not. He's not a overly big guy. 5, 11 and a quarter inch. That's average. 193 pounds average. I mean, he built more like a corner than a safety. But when you see that speed on tape, it's also the closing speed. And he will come up and strike you. He plays a violent game. He's not afraid to get after it. Some of that gets him in trouble. He takes some chances. He will get out. Caught out of position. But two interceptions in 2025, both pick sixes. He's dangerous with the ball in his hands. He had a punt return early in his career for a touchdown. I think he's a versatile guy that can play pro. I think he's got the speed to play high. Probably the best fit for him is in. Is at the nickel. I mean, get this. He had five sacks and 14 tackles for loss in 2025. He is an aggressive player. And I like the Tampa just continues to address that defense. You get another hurricane after getting Reuben Bane in in the first Ye. Getting better on defense. They're getting younger on defense. I think it's a good pick.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I mean, you. Now you brought in the. You brought in the team that played for the national championship on the strength of its defense, and. And you brought in their. Their best defensive lineman.
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Steve Muench
Oh, yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
And their best secondary guy.
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Steve Muench
Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I mean, I thought Scott would be
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Steve Muench
gone before then, to be honest with you. I thought he had a chance to go on day two. Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I mean, we. I mean, we finally landed in the top 100 with him at 66. Man, we thought it was gonna be third.
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Steve Muench
Yeah. Yeah. That goes to show you man after
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Daniel Jeremiah
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Daniel Jeremiah
Next one up. Travis Burke cracked the top 100 for me at Memphis, right? The offensive tackle at the very end at literally 100. I remember standing in the Senior bowl field behind the quarterbacks, throwing Taylor Green, Garrett Nussmeier, all those guys. And all of a sudden comes up this massive man who I'd met before, but it had been a minute since I've seen him. David Deal, remember him? He's like a fifth round guy.
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Steve Muench
He looks good though. He's big, but he looks good, man. He looks fit.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I'm not messing with him. I almost called over my bodyguard mensch because he came over to me with a purpose, right? And the purpose was, hey, Travis Burke. I was like, yep, I know. He's like, I want to really tell you. So you do know him. I was like, okay, yes sir.
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Steve Muench
Pan up.
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Daniel Jeremiah
You know, he shows me pictures of Travis Burke as this lean, like tall, 6 foot 8. Apparently Travis Burke in high school had this like growth spurt, right? From like 6:2 to 6:8. The combine is 6:8 and 3/4, £325. But in high school, like as a freshman or sophomore, he's like 6:2 and I don't know, like 200 pounds and then. But he carries it beautifully. And so he's like, he used to be a baseball pitcher and a first baseman. He was like a three sport athlete. But his dad was a football coach and his dad was an offensive line coach. And they played like a storied program right in Florida, I believe it was. And so he's telling me this whole backstory and he's like. And he, David Deal, who was with the Giants won two Super Bowls, knows a little bit about being a later round pick and developing. I think he was a 13 year starter for Eli Manning and the Giants, right. Knows a little bit about developing tackles.
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Steve Muench
Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
And so he talks to me about the development and how quickly he picked things up and how he's growing and how, yeah, he used to be a baseball player and he used to be this like scrawny kid, but he's a nasty son of a gun. So I go back from the, I go back from the Senior bowl and I put in the tape. It was one of the first plays that I watched. I want to say it was Nebraska. He just pancakes and like stands over
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Steve Muench
them like, let's dip in it a little bit. Lets him know, watch it.
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Daniel Jeremiah
5, 1 7. He runs in the 40 yard dash at that size 6, 8 and 3. He's almost 6, 9 and 325 pounds. Listen, he, there's, he's obviously tall, he's long levered, he's still developing. And yeah, his dad was an offensive line coach and he was with David Deal, but he's not used to his body totally and you can see it at times, but he moves well. And so it's about continuing to develop him, the pass rush, the balance and keeping the pads low and the leverage. But he's got all the traits. And then I see where he's drafted into and you got a team with Rashawn Slater at left tackle and Joe Alt at right tackle and they were both injured last year and man, we had problems that we better not. If that comes up again, we better not have to be trading for Travis for Trevor Pennington and bringing him in. He kicks in at guards. My point is they need offensive line depth. We saw how devastating that was for the Chargers last year and they've got a guy now who can develop behind those two tackles and be a swing tackle. And I just, I see a bright future for, for Travis Burke and I just love the story, like how quickly it all happened for him. Even though he grew, grew up playing all these sports but dad's a football coach. But then he grows a body that to actually be an offensive lineman, you know, and knew it was coming but when's it going to come? And then he gets, he bounces around different colleges and find finally winds up with the in the right spot with David Deal. And Deals tracking me down at the Senior bowl to tell me this guy and the tape was pretty fun to watch.
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Steve Muench
Yeah, he's got the left tackle, right tackle, versatility. He's lined up a little bit of both. I love it. And Joe, we talked to Joe Ortiz at the, at the combine and I said you get worried about certain positions with injuries and do you kind of make sure you have depth there? And they go out and make sure.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
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Steve Muench
They have a guy who can provide some depth and he's not ready to play now. I understand. But he has a chance to grow into a really good swing tackle early is great.
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Daniel Jeremiah
And you get the feeling that Harbaugh like identified that.
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Steve Muench
Yeah, he seems like a Harbaugh guy.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Steve Muench
All right, let's go back to the Raiders. MCH said earlier that Jonah Coleman is the third best back in this class. He misspoke. The third best back in this class is Mike Washington Jr. I, I get. I like Jonah Coleman too.
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Daniel Jeremiah
That's why I, I gave, I gave you that one on our board.
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Steve Muench
I, I like and you, I guess they backed you up the way the, the market backed you up. I get it. But to get Mike Washington at pick 122, we're talking out of back here who is 61223 pounds and ran a 433-40 yard dash with a 1.51 10 yard split. This dude is explosive. He's coming off a breakout season at Arkansas. I think he's an ascending player. I think he's getting better. I think you're getting a guy that's going to be even better next year. Okay, so that's, that's what I'm talking about with the ascending player. He runs with a narrow base, but he's just got the size and power to break tackles. And you see that speed is not just track speed. It translates to what you see on the field. He can take off and just pull away when he gets a seam. Other thing I like about him, I think he's going to help you in the passing game. He's got the frame to develop into an excellent PassWalker. He's got 33 and five 8 inch arms. He's a big target with a wide catching radius and you're bringing him in to be the compliment to Ashton Genti, which I think helps Ashton Genti. You don't have to overload him with the workload. You can use Genti in a couple of different, different ways. Right. And I also love the way it's going to help your quarterbacks. Kirk Cousins initially, Fernando Mendoza after that, because you're going to stay committed to the ground game. You can set up your play action package. Take some, take some pressure off the quarterbacks. I love this pick because he's so talented, is a great, it's just a great value pick. But when you slot him into the role that he's going to have with them, it's, I mean it just, it's value and need and fit. It all works.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, I like that pick a lot. Because let's not, okay, we've got Ashton Genti. Let's just, let's not assume that he can carry every handoff and that he can catch everything out of the back. Like, let's keep him fresh and we're not winning a Super bowl in 2026. Let's manage how we utilize Ashton Ginty this year and as we get in 2027 and start believing we can make a run in the playoffs, like, yeah, we'll, we'll change how that looks. But I think, I think that's a really smart. Honestly, top to bottom, I've loved what the Raiders have done and we'll get into the whole draft tomorrow. We have a big breakdown of. We're going to go through superlative favorite picks, teams that had the best hauls, all that stuff tomorrow. We're excited to do it. It'll be out on Sunday, late afternoon evening. But, but I think the Raiders with John Spytak, what they did to help support Mendoza, honestly on both sides of the ball was pretty outstanding. So that, that's pretty cool to see. Also, I want to mention and, and the traffic has been awesome and the response has been awesome and we appreciate everyone who's got kind of gotten involved and, and, and even when you click. All right, it's the ringer.com McShay. That's where our, our database is. Our, our big board, our mock drafts have been in all of it. Go check it out if you haven't already. If you have. I see a lot of people screenshotting the, the, the scouting reports, which is awesome. On social, we also built in a function. Just a little heads up, you know, the little share button. Yeah. You know, if you're gonna share something. Yeah. Even I know that.
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Steve Muench
Even I get that.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I know you do. Take those big sausage fingers and hit that share button. Share it and it goes out. You can. You can send it to any one of your friends and be like, see, I told you so. I told you this guy's awesome. I told you my team's better than your team. So pick a player. Profile, hit, share. Boom. We're in the top left corner. All right, you have won another player. So. Yeah, so that was. That was Mike Washington, Raiders at pick 122, 135. The Colts made an important pick.
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Steve Muench
Yeah. They get another inside linebacker and Bryce Betcher from Oregon. I want you to imagine Bryce.
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Daniel Jeremiah
That's the second linebacker they took. Yes.
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Steve Muench
C.J. allen.
- [31:05]
Daniel Jeremiah
C.J. allen.
- [31:05]
Steve Muench
Get into it. I'm going to get into it.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Okay. Sorry.
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Steve Muench
No, you're good. Bryce Betcher, I want you to imagine Bryce Betcher is at. He's on Oregon's campus. He grew up in that area, by the way. And he's walking by. He's a baseball player, and he is walking by the football practice and he's starting to get the itch. And the problem is, I want you to think of Captain America when he was scrawny. Captain America, okay. He was 210 pounds. He was like, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna go out and play with these guys from Oregon. These four stars and five stars. I'm getting murdered. Bulks up. He's now 233 pounds, so he can be competitive and play with them. Ends up leaving baseball even though he's drafted by the Astros. I believe in 2024 to. To become a. To go onto the football team. Lead the Big Ten in tackles in 20, 25. One of the things that's interesting about him, I love his motor. I love how tough he is. I love his instincts both against the run and in coverage. I think he's going to be a. A special teams guy right away, and I do think he's going to play meaningful snaps on them. On defense as a rookie, he's just that. He's just that good of a player. But we went to the Senior bowl and he's practicing with these guys and he knocks his teammate during a walkthrough. He knocks his teammate on his ass. Because this guy doesn't know how to gear down. I mean, he is all gas, no brakes all the time. But when you get a feeling for how he is off the field, we got. We actually got, like, some inside information.
- [32:28]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yep.
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Steve Muench
Tucker's brother.
- [32:29]
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh.
- [32:30]
Steve Muench
Is A scout for the Twins, and so he knows better from the baseball world. Calls him assault of the earth kind of guy.
- [32:36]
Daniel Jeremiah
I love that.
- [32:38]
Steve Muench
Colts had a massive need. They had a big need.
- [32:40]
Daniel Jeremiah
We don't talk about Tucker's brother being. Being a Major League Baseball scout enough.
- [32:44]
Steve Muench
No, I mean, it's.
- [32:44]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, it's awesome.
- [32:45]
Steve Muench
Yeah, we. We could probably. There's other players we could probably get in there. They get C.J. allen with their first pick in the second round. Now you've got two talented linebackers. It's funny because I wrote in my Betcher report, I'm like, he's a green dot linebacker. And what I mean by that is you're going to want to be communicating the defense, defensive calls to him, and he's going to get everyone lined up, make sure everything's where it needs to be. He's your communicator, he's your leader. Well, C.J. allen's that guy, too, so I don't know what they're going to do, but when you have two of those and you get them outside of the first round, the Colts have addressed that need pretty much in the best way they could without having a first round pick.
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Daniel Jeremiah
It's awesome. I love that. I love all of that. The next guy. I'm sorry, I'm just jotting down this note. This next guy is one of my favorite players in the entire draft. And I knew he was going to fall and I didn't care. And I shoved him right in at 64 on the top 100 board. I knew Drew Aller was going to be a top 100 pick.
- [33:43]
Steve Muench
Couldn't do it.
- [33:44]
Daniel Jeremiah
No interest in bringing him in. I knew Kyle Lewis had a really good chance to fall the fourth round because of his size. It's a linebacker out of Pittsburgh. Didn't care. Just, I want to be able to look back at this board and say, told you so. And that's exactly what's going to happen with Kyle Lewis. He's six foot nothing, 220 pounds. 220 nutting pounds. Right. But he just makes plays and he covers like a safety. And some teams viewed him kind of as a safety. I don't care what you view him as.898 snaps in the box,578 snaps in the slot. He had another 253 snaps at the edge position, 26 starts he had at Pitt. He's a special teams kickoff punt coverage maven. Okay. Comes to the Senior bowl and it's he and Bud Clark. It's like every Time I look, I'm getting a stiff neck looking around every time they get an interception. Punch a ball loose around the football making plays. Those are the best two defensive players in terms of playmaking and difference making at the Senior bowl that week. Then he goes to the combine. What's he do? Oh, he just runs a cool 4, 5, 3, right. He jumps a cool 39 vertical, 90th percentile the last three years. He jumps a cool 10, 9 broad, 95th percentile the last three years. Okay. This guy had six interceptions, 12 pass breakups over the past two years. He is excellent in space. Okay. You know who else the Miami Dolphins drafted before they drafted Kyle Lewis at 138 overall? The third biggest playmaker that week of the Senior bowl in Jacob Rodriguez, who was punching balls out and picking them off, too. And the number one linebacker in college football last year in terms of playmaking, leadership, toughness, taking the ball away, all those things. So now I'm sitting here and I'm the Dolphins and my roster's a mess. Every position you look at, like those are their starters. They brought in Jordan Brooks from Seattle and Tyrell Dodson from Seattle. Okay. Yep. But now I've got. I've got Jacob Rodriguez who will supplant and Kyle Lewis who may be used as a sub package, nickel, dime, certain roles.
- [36:09]
Steve Muench
Right.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Like a dime linebacker as a rookie. Cover kicks, do all those sorts of things. Let him continue to bulk up. But I think at the 138th overall pick, you're going to wind up drafting a player, John Eric Sullivan, that is going to be an impact guy in a year or two. He's going to be a full time starter and he's going to tell everyone who passed on him to go bleep themselves because I told you so. I told you so. In my tape at Pitt. I told you so. My tape at the Senior Bowl. I told you so. In my workout at the combine. What else was there to do? I can't get taller, I can't get bigger. I'll put on some pounds, but what's it matter? I just make plays, man, what strikes me.
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Steve Muench
And he is near the top of the list for this kind of a player. The two free agents you mentioned, Bull signed from Seattle, who just won a Super Bowl. Right. What does it take to win? What does it take to get there? We're going to bring in two guys who knows what it takes.
- [36:58]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [36:58]
Steve Muench
Look at the character profile of the defensive players. They're taking Jacob Rodriguez, Chris Johnson, the corner from San Diego State. Michael Taft, the safety from Texas.
- [37:08]
Daniel Jeremiah
Great point.
- [37:09]
Steve Muench
The character of the players that they're bringing on defense, this is setting a tone. This is a different room now. This is what the expectations are and you're doing it with young guys and I guess that's one. If there's a silver lining to having to like rebuild an entire defense, this would be it. You get to come in and bring in your kind of guy.
- [37:27]
Daniel Jeremiah
I'll tell you what, John Eric Sullivan in a weird way is in one of the most enviable positions I can imagine, isn't it? There's no pressure to win right now. I get a roster that's totally ripped down to the studs and I get to build it with all my guys with a million picks. They came into this draft with 11 picks. I'll have to go back and look and figure out how many they wound up using. But you get like, you know, double digit picks to just reset this organization. And we know it's going to be a couple years to build and we'll get a bunch of picks next year and we'll keep doing it. So it's gonna be pretty cool to see how it all works out. But a great start by GM John Eric Sullivan.
- [38:03]
Steve Muench
Yeah, I love it.
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Daniel Jeremiah
All right, next up on the list, we get into the 140s. We get a couple. Yeah, 130s. 130s. Bryce Lance is the next one for you.
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Steve Muench
Yeah. Bryce Lance, New Orleans. Remember when Mike Evans played with Johnny Manziel? Texas A M. Yes. And well, it was kind of like, well, is Johnny Manziel that good or is Mike Evans that good? This is like Cole Payton and Bryce Lance.
- [38:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay.
- [38:26]
Steve Muench
It ends up Bryce Lance might be the reason why your guy from Cole Payton might be be viewed so, so highly. Bryce Lance is six three, 204 pounds, 32 and an eighth inch arms.
- [38:36]
Daniel Jeremiah
Nice try.
- [38:37]
Steve Muench
Four, three, four speed. You just see that the like going into FCS competition, he is a nightmare to handle. By the way, a 1 4, 9, 10 yard split, does that even exist? That's like. I mean it's crazy.
- [38:50]
Daniel Jeremiah
It's probably three steps for him.
- [38:52]
Steve Muench
So this guy is going to take the top off the coverage?
- [38:55]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
- [38:56]
Steve Muench
That's what he's gonna be. I think you. Did you compare him to Christian Watson? Was that your comp?
- [38:59]
Daniel Jeremiah
I did. He's not quite as physical as. But he also. I think he tracks the ball better like in terms of going up with and down the field and a little bit better, I would say after the catch.
- [39:09]
Steve Muench
I love the Comp.
- [39:10]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
- [39:10]
Steve Muench
So now you got this guy who is. He's a little raw. He's gonna have to develop, but he has all the talent in the world to be a big time vertical weapon. You got a young quarterback with a big arm and Tyler Shuck and you just look now what Mickey Loomis is doing and how he's. He's got his quarterback. So what does he do? He goes out and gets Jordan Tyson the first round. He gets tight end Oscar Delp in on. On day two. And now he gets Lance on. On the third day of the draft. In addition to drafting a guard and Jeremiah right and adding left guard David Edwards and free agency, they are building around their young quarterback. They're giving him weapons. And it's not surprising that they took two receivers. I mean that's how there's Chris Olavi Alave and then there's. There's some role players. There's not really a number two on this roster. And when you look at Chris Olavi's injury history, the fact that he's going to his last year of his contract, it made sense that they were going to go after two wide receivers. I didn't expect them to be able to get a talent like Lance that's going to fit what they do. And I think going to contribute early at this point in the draft.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, I like that. I think give me speed for a guy who's got an arm. Give me speed.
- [40:26]
Steve Muench
Yeah.
- [40:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
And, and that you see some plays of extending and rolling and give me some guys who can actually stretch it. And even if I'm not throwing it to you, you're stretching it to open things underneath. And you know the analytics on Christian
- [40:36]
Steve Muench
Watson when he's in the lineup for the, for the Packers.
- [40:38]
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, it's wild.
- [40:39]
Steve Muench
And what he does for other receivers, it's wild. People do you have to look at it. You have to look the way he opens up space.
- [40:45]
Daniel Jeremiah
And did you measure who they drafted? Another speed receiver?
- [40:47]
Steve Muench
Didn't they draft the Tyson. Jordan. Tyson. So they got their route runner. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah.
- [40:52]
Daniel Jeremiah
Sorry. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. I knew there was a second receiver. It may have been another team I
- [40:56]
Steve Muench
was thinking of and then dealt down the seam. You got another weapon there.
- [41:00]
Daniel Jeremiah
Who was the. I believe the fastest of the tight
- [41:03]
Steve Muench
ends ran in the four fours other than Sadiq.
- [41:05]
Daniel Jeremiah
Sadiq, yes. Yes. Of the tight ends that weren't first round picks. Yes. Okay, so my Next up is 141 overall. Kamari Ramsey's a safety out of USC, started his career at UCLA transferred to USC.
- [41:22]
Steve Muench
That's a no, no. From what we hear from Bill Simmons.
- [41:25]
Daniel Jeremiah
You can't do that big time. Yeah, Bill's not alone on that. That rivalry is fierce, man, within, within la, but transfers within the city to, you know, one, one spot to the other, which is a no, no, but does so as a 6 foot, 202 pound safety, right. Who can play all over. And it almost, almost worked to his disadvantage at times throughout his career. I thought because he played, what was it, 728 snaps at free safety in his career, 556 at slot, 364 in the box. I think that was the last, that's two years maybe. And so I think this past year, kind of in that, that nickel role, it wasn't necessarily his best spot or he just was still adjusting, but he did it for the team. Right. He also missed three games in 2025 with a knee injury. So you kind of combine all these things and you're talking about a safety that we were talking about in 2024, like he's the up and coming guy like Caleb Downs and Ramsey. Right. It was before Thienman came on the spot. It was before Emmanuel McNeil, Warren and some of those other states. So the talent is absolutely there, the versatility is there. Right. And he gets drafted to a Houston team that just keeps getting richer.
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Steve Muench
Man.
- [42:53]
Daniel Jeremiah
I look at Houston and I, Nick Casario kind of managed it brilliantly. We talked about that in the first two nights of the draft. But you look at now you bring in another safety. They've got Reed Blankenship who came over from Philly, They've got Kaylin Bullock. Now we've got this versatile piece in the back end and a guy who can help take the ball away, who can play some different spots. I just, I like, I thought Ramsey had a chance to go top 100. I'm not sure if it was a bit, maybe a little bit of the medical or teams with the tape last year not being quite as good. But I talked to some teams that thought he was going to be a third round pick and really liked it. So I'd be curious when we text some, some people after been digging down stuff on McCoy today, digging down stuff on Deion Burks today. So there's been a lot of questions about a few guys who have fallen. But Ramsey's a player who I think is going to way out play his draft slot, you know.
- [43:48]
Steve Muench
Yeah, I was like, do they have a need there? And then I was like, who cares? It's Too good of a value. I mean, you take the best available player there. It's.
- [43:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
When you build that kind of roster,
- [43:58]
Steve Muench
that's what you can do.
- [43:58]
Daniel Jeremiah
It affords you that ability. The next one was a favorite of both mine and Steve's. I'll handle it. But Steve can take over if he wants. Justin Jolly on tape is absolutely a third round pick. worst, the tight end out of North Carolina State, you're talking highly productive. Over 1100 receiving yards, 11 touchdowns over his last two years. Okay, this guy is six, three and five eighths of an inch. He's not the tallest tight end, but it's not like he's that short. He's basically 6 4, 241 pounds. He's not going to be your inline Y tight end, but as an F. I saw him block, man, I saw him work to block. That was the thing that I liked. He competes with effort. His competitiveness was awesome. On tape. Now, his finishing and his sustaining was not great.
- [44:46]
Steve Muench
He's not built for it.
- [44:47]
Daniel Jeremiah
But he couldn't run during the process, right? And he was nicked up and couldn't run. And I think that that's what led to this happening. Him falling to. What did I say? 1, 152. 152. But then I look up and I'm like, all right, who drafted him? Finally he's off the board. Fifth round. Who drafted him? Oh, Denver.
- [45:12]
Steve Muench
Yeah.
- [45:13]
Daniel Jeremiah
Joker, right?
- [45:16]
Steve Muench
Sean Payton's kind of a guy, loves these guys, man.
- [45:19]
Daniel Jeremiah
And he's, he's. He will compete and block, but obviously at 241lbs, it's not going to be his strength. But he's got these long arms and he's got the ability. I see speed on tape and I see the ability to separate. I think he's one of the best. I would argue, man, I'm trying to think before I. I would argue in terms of like separation skills, like craft.
- [45:42]
Steve Muench
The way he gets off the line for his frame is impressive, right? Yeah, it is. And it showed up at the senior quietly. He had a great week at the Senior Bowl.
- [45:51]
Daniel Jeremiah
Like his advanced route running. That's what I put in my report. Like, consistently through tempo and leverage of his routes and like the, like the subtle technical nuances with the head bobs, the shoulder, like. I don't know. I was, I was really. I was really. I'm getting choked up talking about Justin Jolly. I like him that much. I think that this is going to be a player who's going to make a real difference. And I Know that they're always looking for, like, weapons and different guys who can come in and play a certain role and can get open on third downs. And I'm just looking at what they have right now. You got Adam Trotman I talked about, and then Evan Ingram.
- [46:26]
Steve Muench
Yep.
- [46:27]
Daniel Jeremiah
He's. He's going to be the. He's going to take over Evan Ingram's role at some point.
- [46:32]
Steve Muench
Evan Ingram's on the back nine.
- [46:34]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. Like maybe the last three holes. So that's.
- [46:37]
Steve Muench
He could see the club.
- [46:38]
Daniel Jeremiah
There's some vision in here. And Ingram doesn't always stay healthy. A full season like this, this one makes a ton of sense for me. From Denver.
- [46:44]
Steve Muench
Yeah. I mean, I've been humbled before. Maybe be humbled again. But I think when we look back at this tight end group and who came off the board and the order of it, all the people are gonna be like, huh, why did that guy go before Justin Jolly did? You know what I mean? It just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, I'm Gonna go pick one. 65. The Tennessee Titans get Nicholas Singleton. Nick Singleton out of Penn State. Look, not a great year for Nick Singleton, but this is a dude who ran for 3,400 yards in 45 touchdowns in college. So, yeah, the production was down last year, and I do have some concerns about how he's seeing things. I didn't love the vision and the patience as a. As a runner last year. I get that.
- [47:25]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, it's not his thing.
- [47:26]
Steve Muench
But. But we are talking about a guy who was number 19 on Bruce Femlin's freak list, and at 219 pounds, can apparently run, according to Feldman, a 4, 3, 5, 40. We're talking about speed. We're talking about production. I believe that if he hadn't broken a bone. Again, not a knee injury, nothing like that. He broke a bone in his foot at the Senior Bowl. If this kid runs at the combine at 219 pounds and he runs in the four threes, are we talking about him in the sixth or fifth round? Are we talking about that?
- [47:59]
Daniel Jeremiah
No, I just.
- [48:01]
Steve Muench
I think it's a sixth round, by the way. I don't. I don't understand. And Tennessee has a need at running back. That's why we thought they might target Jeremiah Love in the first round. And I get. Not taking a guy that early. I get it. Not taking a running back of four. You could say it was the right move, to be honest with you.
- [48:16]
Daniel Jeremiah
Well, they. They didn't have the opportunity because.
- [48:18]
Steve Muench
Oh, that's correct.
- [48:18]
Daniel Jeremiah
Arizona took.
- [48:20]
Steve Muench
That's correct.
- [48:20]
Daniel Jeremiah
And I. And then there are reports that they. They very well could have. You know, they wound up taking Carnell Tate at 4, but. Yeah.
- [48:25]
Steve Muench
Thank you. But my point being is that a lot of teams were mocking him to Tennessee. Yeah. They need a guy that can compliment Tony Pollard. They need a guy that can share the workload. Who's reliable? Third fewest carries. Third fewest carries in the league. You got a young quarterback. You cannot do that. You have to show a greater commitment to the run. Now you get a guy in there who, again, needs to clean some stuff up. Wasn't great last year, but talent for days. The frame to handle a heavier workload at this point in the draft. I love this pick.
- [48:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. And I. It was interesting seeing not. Not a far range between the two on day three of Katron Allen going a little bit earlier and. And then. And then Nicholas Singleton, the. The two Penn State running backs that kind of like Clemson and Penn State. It felt like all the prospects disappointed this year. Was it a systemic. You know, was. Was it everything that was going on with the program or were the. Was it the player, the chicken or the egg thing or. It was all these players just didn't play. I think it had to be a little bit of both, right?
- [49:26]
Steve Muench
Yeah.
- [49:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
But. But Allen and Singleton hear their names called on day three, and they're two guys that, coming into this year, we thought could be day two running back. So that part's intriguing for the teams that wind up with the Penn State running backs. Okay.
- [49:39]
Steve Muench
Singleton was late fifth.
- [49:40]
Daniel Jeremiah
Sorry, late fifth. Yep. Quarterbacks. Let's get to quarterbacks. So the quarterbacks came off the board in an interesting way. Right. Surprise. Ty Simpson for some people, not others. In the first round, after Fernando Mendoza was the first overall pick, then you had two quarterbacks go in the third round after none were selected in the second round, it was Carson Beck from Miami and Drew Aller from Penn State. Then we get into the fourth round of the draft. Meanwhile, or mind you, we still have Garrett Nussmeier on the board from lsu, we have Cole Payton. From North Dakota State, we have Taylor Green. But the first quarterback off the board, Mensch, is Cade Klubnick, a player we liked a lot coming into the season. Me even more than you, and I'll own that.
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Steve Muench
I liked him a lot, too, though. That's fair.
- [50:33]
Daniel Jeremiah
I thought he was progressing towards the end of the 2024 season, went really well, and you started to see him kind of more decisive and realizing where he wanted to go. With the football. You saw him some of the as the runner, the competitiveness. I saw him at the Manning passing academy like a sponge to Peyton and like the way he carried himself. There were a lot of things that were leading towards maybe he could be a first round pick or certainly day two. But then the play, I would argue regressed. I saw a quarterback that was overly caffeinated in the pocket. I saw a quarterback that wasn't trusting things and as the season progressed he lost confidence. But there's still that talent there and the jets take him in the fourth round. Thoughts?
- [51:20]
Steve Muench
I think you hit the nail on the head with your analysis of his play and that's, I mean that's ultimately why I get that. I mean the jets need a quarterback, right? I mean Geno Smith's 35, soon to be 36, coming off bad year on a one year contract. Everyone in the world knows the jets need a quarterback. This is not the right guy. You had other better options in my opinion.
- [51:39]
Daniel Jeremiah
But your draft. Here's what I can tell you. This is the information I can tell you, right? Both from all different sources and just dipping into knowledge and experience. Klubnick's a great guy to have around. Klubnick's going to study his ass off.
- [51:55]
Steve Muench
True.
- [51:56]
Daniel Jeremiah
Klubnick is going to fight and compete and try to get some snaps this year and all that, and maybe he will. But when they draft their guy in 2027, whether it's Arch Manning or Dante Moore or Brandon Sorsby or whomever it's going to be, they've got three picks in the first round. Klubnick is brought in to be the backup too, because Gino's gonna be like peace, you know. So that. That's what this is all about. Truly.
- [52:25]
Steve Muench
I get it.
- [52:26]
Daniel Jeremiah
What?
- [52:26]
Steve Muench
You know my feeling on that though? What I think you sign backups, you don't develop them.
- [52:31]
Daniel Jeremiah
I know that you get a.
- [52:32]
Steve Muench
You get. You wait. I would wait for Kate Kubnick and I think Kate Kubbitt could be an excellent backup. By the way, I do believe that this isn't knock on him as a player. I like other. I like bam. My backup quarterbacks. Go play for someone else, get some game experience. Probably not win that many games and then I'll sign you as a backup.
- [52:49]
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, it's not. When you have the amount of picks that the jets have, it's never a bad idea to bring guys in. It's like just no matter what your situation is, it's never a bad idea to bring guys in. So I don't have a problem with this. And they had a plan with all these additional picks to utilize one of them and.
- [53:06]
Steve Muench
But you think they should have taken a different quarterback, correct?
- [53:09]
Daniel Jeremiah
That's really the story.
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Steve Muench
Yeah. Okay, I do.
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Daniel Jeremiah
But then the draft happened, right? Yeah. Because, like, to me, you're not. Club Nick's is. Klubnick is in the same category as Garrett Nussmeier, who falls to the seventh round of the Kansas City Chiefs. That's a big story. We'll get to that in half a second. But Club Nick's not in the same category, and Club Nick's in the same category as Nussmeier. And also Kalia Kaliakmanis. Athan Kaliakmanis from Rutgers, who I just watched more tape on the other day. Super. Like, mechanically sound feet are married to eyes. Accuracy's outstanding. Average arm, some mobility. But, like. But he's in that category. Baron Morton, my guy. Your guy got drafted.
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Steve Muench
I know he did.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Say sorry, would you every once in a while. Baron Morton. I can't do it. So you've got Klubnick and Kaliakmanis, and Nussmeier and Morton are all in that same category of they're going to be backups in the league. And sure, if we hit lightning in the bottle, awesome. But who are the guys that we want that we know? Like, we trust their process, that they're going to be teacher's aid, which is probably the worst way I can put it, but, like, really great in the quarterback room. Okay, then you've got another category. Like Jalen Milroe a year ago.
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Steve Muench
Yep.
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Daniel Jeremiah
And Taylor Green. And Cole Payton, my guy. Cole Payton fell later. I think. Pardon my take. I owe a big cat. I think I'm supposed to send him a crying video. I think it was pick 130 or 140. We said if he hadn't been picked. Well, guess what it was. It was the fifth round for Cole Payton to Philly, though. So when you're Philly or you're the Browns and you kind of. You've got that backup and you've got a situation in Cleveland, you're bringing in developmental, and that's what day three is for at that position. So those are different categories. So the Nussmeyer part is fascinating, but is it? Everyone in the league knows that Nussmeier is a better quarterback prospect than Cade Klubnick. Everyone in the league knows he's a better prospect than Kaliak. Bonus. And Baron Morton. As much as I like Baron Morton, I'm like The biggest Baron Morton dude who turns out in the draft around outside of the Patriots and Elliott Wolf. But why does Garrett Nussmeier fall all the way to the. Towards the end of the seventh round of the Kansas City Chiefs?
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Steve Muench
He's an undersized quarterback who has some durability concerns.
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Daniel Jeremiah
The durability, yes.
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Steve Muench
But it's.
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Daniel Jeremiah
That's.
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Steve Muench
Don't tell me that's not part of it, man. Because it is like if he was a bigger guy, I think they may not be as concerned about it.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. Yes, yes. Undersized with durability. But, but it's, it's a. You have the details on it's assist touching the, the, the.
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Steve Muench
He's a cyst on the spine. The oblique injury wasn't a muscle thing. It was a cyst pressing against his spine and affecting a nerve which I'm not a doctor, I don't know exactly. My understanding is if they had to do it's that he's been symptom free for a while now and if they had to do surgery, it would be minor surgery.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
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Steve Muench
But I don't know if other teams are seeing it that way. He does have assist on the spine that compresses on the nerve. The bigger issue, and I'm not going to pronounce this right, is patellar tendonitis in his knee. Yeah, that's probably. I mean teams are going to be concerned about that and how much is going to affect him long term.
- [56:41]
Daniel Jeremiah
Right.
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Steve Muench
So that's the bigger issue and trouble
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Daniel Jeremiah
staying healthy like in 2024. I told you, I don't think I've ever watched a quarterback who I could physically see on tape looked like he was worn down. And they like Ty Simpson this past year, like they had no run game. It was wearing on him. But physically he didn't look the same. Then he played in the bowl game and I saw that a little bit more of the juice, the urgency and drops and the maneuverability. And then this past year he has. There's reports of the, the tendinitis. And then also we clear. It was so obvious watching some of the tape. It was hard to watch like this poor guy, like he's not himself. Why is he even out there? But the medical reports must have shown. I mean it's obvious they showed. It showed a lot more because everyone in coming into the year just to show like the National Scouting Service had them as one of the top, I think top two or three grades. Maybe the top grade of all players.
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Steve Muench
Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I'm not saying that I Don't put any stuff. I'm just trying to give context without giving other teams and what they have. So. But he winds what winds up with the Chiefs and that's a pretty enviable situation to be in.
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Steve Muench
Yeah, that's great for him.
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Daniel Jeremiah
It's a great spot for him.
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Steve Muench
We talked about Ty Simpson going to the Rams. I didn't, I never thought, you know, I didn't. They had, they've just got Justin Fields. You still have Patrick Mahomes. I didn't know they were going to take a quarterback. But now he goes and learns from Andy Reid, from Patrick. I mean, it is a great.
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Daniel Jeremiah
I'll tell you, I'd much rather be a seventh round draft pick to the Kansas City Chiefs if I'm Garrett Nussmeier than be a second round draft pick to the Browns or to the jets or to some of these other organizations or situations. Right.
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Steve Muench
Most other teams. It's not just the Browns or the Jets. I mean, this is different.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Right. So, so yeah, so that was the story. It was, it was wild to watch. It was frustrating to watch for Garrett Nussmeier. And the last thing is, you know, Deion Burks, the wide receiver who we had, you know, a late third round grade on top 100 prospect. Come to find out there, you know, the back, the medical stuff with a back injury that he fought through this past year raised some red flags for NFL teams. And so he winds up, you know, taking a massive fall in the draft. He's an explosive vertical receiver. Everyone in the league you talk to, just based off the tape, He's a top 100 guy. The Colts wind up taking him late in the seventh round for two reasons. One, yeah, the medical. But two, what happens is, and I've been texting with people and one GM was texting another person who was in the know with Deon Burks who's like, hey, we know about the back. But like, is there more here? What's going on? Because this, this seems unreasonable. Teams start to worry like, oh, Burks is still. Does everyone else know something we don't know? And so it's no fault of Deon Burks and the back. And the medical issue probably isn't as big as everyone is.
- [59:26]
Steve Muench
Right?
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Daniel Jeremiah
The medical issue isn't as big and isn't as concerning as where Birx winds up falling. And it's an unfortunate part about this process. No one wants to get egg on their face and say, oh, you took Deanne Burks in the fourth round, man, we'd have Bet, you know, and that's just not the deal. So there's a lot that goes on on day three with concern about are we taking, you know, a bigger risk than we need to take. But I'm glad that Berks lands in a place where, honest to goodness, in Indy, he could wind up being like a number three or four eventually. Probably like a number four or five this year and being explosive like a. And finally, for the first time in three years, he's going to have a quarterback and Daniel Jones who can actually throw the ball down the field to him. John Mattier could in three games and he had like 300 plus yards receiving. But Mattier broke his thumb and then he wasn't. He was kind of closer to himself at the end of the year in the College Football Playoff game.
- [60:18]
Steve Muench
Right.
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Daniel Jeremiah
And then Berks was ready to go again. Michigan tore him apart. So I'm pumped that Burks lands in a spot where he can actually give the big bleep you to the rest of the league. And because I think he's a really, really good player who's been in a bad spot in a lot for the last few years with Jackson, Arnold and Matier, who I really like, but the thumb injury just reduced him to a runner and kind of short yardage thrower.
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Steve Muench
Yeah, it's importance of having a good medical staff that you trust too. If you, you know, everyone else would be saying whatever they want. If you have a guy that you trust saying it's it's time, like now is the time, you should take a chance on this guy. He could be a home run for them.
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Daniel Jeremiah
So this is, this is a lot of fun. This is our day three recap. Tomorrow on Sunday we'll get it out late afternoon, early evening. We're going to tape. We're just spend a lot of time doing a breakdown of the entire draft. We're going to have a lot of fun with it. We're going to get to basically everything. So check back on Sunday early evening. Ish. And in the meantime, keep checking out the. The website. We're really proud of what has happened this year and we're continuing to build this thing. It's the ringer.com mcshay for all the scouting reports. If your team drafted someone, go check it out, man. There's a lot of good stuff in there.
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Steve Muench
Report to get the McShay report.
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Daniel Jeremiah
The McShay report's coming out Monday morning. We have a big breakdown. Favorite picks for every single team. Mitch, five stars.
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Steve Muench
Thanks, man. All right.
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Daniel Jeremiah
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