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There's a lot of buzz coming from NFL scouts on the road and it might be time to unveil some dueling mocks to help sort things out. I'm feeling a rough draft in the air and just 161 days until the NFL draft. Mitch, you good? I'm good, man. Roll that beat, T. Just a reminder, we're back every Saturday night Live show this week. Texas Georgia. Remember the Texas Georgia game last year? Was that our first ever live show?
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I always thought it was the A M LSU game, but I guess not, right?
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I did too. This is the MCJ show presented by FanDuel and College Football Saturdays are heating up. Whether you're in for the early kick or the late night action, FanDuel lets you bet your way with the same game, parlays, live betting game props and more. And Missouri, get excited because FanDuel is coming your way on December 1st. Download the app or head to FanDuel.com McShay and make every Saturday count. Must be 21 and older in present select states or 18 and older and present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut. It was one of them because I remember it was a whole Conor Nevins, our executive producer, just sent a text. He's he chimed in with some a great little nugget. Let me share this with everybody before we get started. Had a great little nugget on on Georgia, he said. Last year Georgia had 11 tackles for loss and seven sacks in the Texas game. So far this year, just 35 tackles for loss and 11 sacks on the season. Interesting. There's something that gets warm and seeing. Yep, we got we've got that that prime time break in and full recap show on Saturday night and the McShay Report is out tomorrow. Special one. I'll tell you a little bit later in the show what's what's going on the McShay Report, but you're not going to want to miss that one. You can Google it. Subscribe. Google the McShay Show. Subscribe Premium is there if you want it. If you're if, if you're in the market of just getting all the free stuff, that's fine too. This episode is brought to you by Fox 1. Fox 1 is now live stream all your Fox favorites together in one place from NFL on Fox to big noon Saturdays with Fox one. You get it all live. Start your seven day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one streaming now. Do what you got to do. We got a fun show today. I've been told by my daughter, a lair who's nine years old, that she heard me drop the F bomb the other day and was not a fan. Oh, I'm going to try to keep my language in check today, but I can't make any promises. I think more restrictions have to be put on my daughter's iPad is the real problem.
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You can get away with a lot, but not with the daughter won't let you get away.
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She Tuck Tucker was on before you jumped on. She said she FaceTimed me like, dad, don't swear, okay?
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Yes, ma'. Am.
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She's the boss around here.
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Come on. For years I've wanted to swear and I couldn't swear.
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I know. Finally I get to swear and now I got a daughter old enough to to check out some of my clips. Okay. I gave some buzz last week and I'm still getting some backlash and there's all sorts of forums and I got people texting me from Miami about in South Carolina, what are you doing? And you know, and all sorts of things. I actually had a general manager in the college level called me last night, wanted to talk through some stuff. Nothing I said was wrong but didn't want to make sure it wasn't a. Let's just say a the beginning of a snowball effect for the next five months leading up to the draft. Anyway.
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Sounds like fun.
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Yeah, it is a lot of fun. It was interesting that one of the big takeaways from one of the conversations I had and I touched on this last week. There's a lot of different opinions on this Edge class I think for like Reuben Bane from Miami is considered by a lot of people is Edge one, if you will. Keldrick Falk from Auburn has been up there. Right. Both regardless of who you're talking to. Some. Some like a more. Some like them less. Reuben Baines a little bit more of a polarizing prospect than. Than maybe people think the lack of sack production does it translate to the NFL will he be you know. And, and one scout I talked to was interesting. He was like I actually if you're looking for a pass rusher Macedor is a better guy. I don't think that. I think the sack production is going to translate to the NFL and it's not going to be double digits every year for band and messador might Be a better. And if you want to give me the argument that he's getting, he's getting too much attention, double teams, all that I'm here to tell you, I, I, I'm, I'm going against the grain on that. I, I don't see that. Yeah, he's getting chipped and doing stuff that you always do for a good edge player, but he's not getting flat out double teamed like we saw maybe with like the Bosa brothers at times and, and, and other great pass rushers. So that, that was one argument that was interesting. I also mentioned this last week, David Bailey, best pure pass rusher. I think we all agree. Best pure pass rush. Now he's not the biggest, he's not the strongest, but there, there are going to be some teams that view Bailey from Texas Tech as a higher rated prospect for what they're looking for because of that. And I also told you our Mason Thomas, don't count him out of the first round. Oklahoma. Yeah, obviously the bye week. I think it was the bye week last week. Right. And he had the hamstring injury. We'll see how that progresses. But the tape is the tape. It's out there. He, he is what he is. No matter how this season finishes. We know what he is. He's put that on tape this year. Couple other things were interesting though with that one. One scout I talked to said not, not as big a fan as of Cashus Howell from Texas A and M in terms of his NFL projection. Seen this really like monstrous rise this season. Again, I favor, I favor Bailey, I favor R. Mason Thomas over Cashes Howell who seems to be in the top 15. Top 20 depending on where you're reading.
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Those are all similar frame guys who are going to play probably outside linebacker, three man front kind of. That's what you're thinking. Yeah, but, but not necessarily, but maybe.
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No, I agree. I agree. So that was interesting. I touched on the, the Kenyon Sadiq thing. I think it was on Saturday night. Yeah. And I didn't do it in our, in our rough draft show last week. I think it's a foregone conclusion. I think, I think people have the impression it's a foregone conclusion that he's tight end one. He's a top 20 pick. I'm telling you. There's reports coming out of Oregon that are not favorable and scouts that are going in there and seeing maybe he's not practicing today, maybe he's not playing. Remember Kyle Pitts? Yeah, he's not Kyle Pitts. Level talent. Remember what Kyle Pitts did at the, at the combine?
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This guy everyone remembers of Kyle Pitts. Yeah. I mean, he's a unicorn, right? Okay. I can't believe I brought that word.
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Up in front of you and not Black Unicorn, my favorite nickname in college.
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There we go. There we go.
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Who, by the way, there's more to that story. I'm, I'm digging deep.
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I know.
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Yeah, we'll get to it later.
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I think we might have a whole rough draft on the Black Unicorn. Who. I don't even know if he's eligible, but we'll, we'll see.
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He is, he is now. Okay. But Kenyon Siddiq, the tight end for Oregon, he's going to be a workout warrior. He's going to have a huge combine. It's not going to be the level of Kyle Pitts. Right. But it's, it's going to be something that, that blows the kind of the doors off and everyone's going to be reporting on it and, and what a great blocker. And he's tough and he's all these things and he is a great blocker and he is a great athlete. But I mentioned it on the show the other night, but I think it's important to mention here on Rough Draft, our flagship draft show during the college football season. They're disappointed with Sadiq. His route running has not evolved. He's not separating and getting open. And when I say they, I'm saying NFL scouts. There are people in the Oregon building, I'm told, that are frustrated while he is a great blocker and it, it, he's, he looks like this tough guy and effort and program type guy on the field on Saturdays. The contradiction is maybe the effort was a little bit better when he was, when he was tight end two last year. Interesting, right?
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Interesting. Because it's a good tight end group, by the way. There's not a lot of room for error there.
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Right. And so does that bring him back to the pack a little bit? As we get closer and scouts come back to their coordinate their, their scouting, their college directors and their college directors report up to the general managers and they start to hear these sorts of things, will we start to see that ranking fall a little bit? And I don't want that for him. I'm just, I'm just saying these are some of the things I'm hearing. You know, a player that's getting a little bit of buzz. I know he wasn't your favorite last year, but. And I'll be interested to see when we go back to the tape, I know we haven't spent a lot of time. Blake Miller, the offensive tackle, Clemson.
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Really.
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One person I talked to really loves Blake Miller, offensive tackle.
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Likes the athletic ability, I'm sure. I like the athletic ability, too. I have not gone back and really looked at him this year. I'll be honest with you. With Clemson falling off, I haven't really, really looked at him. That's interesting. I'm excited to go back and look at that now.
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And the last thing for today, I've got pages I told you, pages upon pages. But the last thing I want to share today is the South Carolina cornerback. I don't know if I brought this up. Brandon C. Say. Is that right?
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Yeah, I'm seeing that name a lot.
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He's coming out a lot of buzz. Scout I talked to told me to go back and watch this guy. I did. I did two games basically on like the key plays. Yeah, he might be. He might be cornerback one.
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Interesting. Especially considering Jamal McCoy hasn't played this.
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Year and that's going to be the tough one because. Because, because there's a lot of love for McCoy for Tennessee Avion Terrell, who I thought was like a late first fringe guy, but more of a slot court. He's had a really good year.
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I don't love him as much. Interesting. I love them as much this year.
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I haven't. I have not watched enough of his tape to say whether he's. He's risen over my grade in the preseason. But I thought he was more of like that top 40 guy. Feel good about it, but not like, yeah, cool with him not being the top 25, you know.
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Right.
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So. So CC is a name. I'm told he's coming out. He's the NC State transfer and I watched limited, but enough to be like, oh, yeah, this guy's. This guy.
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He's a good sized kid. Right. He's. He's got a decent size. Yeah.
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And he's smooth and he moves well and he can press. I, I just, I think he's a good player. So those are some names. Just some stuff I wanted to do. Just plant some seeds.
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I like it.
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Planting some seeds.
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Never bad deal.
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And, and, and you know, that comes up the heels of last week's rough draft when I told you Mendoza's probably could be coming out, but there's some interesting stuff on him. Carson Beck is liked by some scouts a little bit more than you would think considering the two losses and the backlash of those losses and the interceptions and all that Dante Moore's going back to school. Sellers. Sellers needs to return and there's a feeling he could return, but it might not, might not be to Columbia, South Carolina. We'll see how that plays out. I couldn't have more respect for that operation and the people running it. And if anything, let's call this a public service announcement to like, hey, hey people, there's. There's some sharks in the water and they're coming after your boy. You know, and so, so maybe, maybe that will help them understand that they've got, they're going to have to pony up and get some things in place. Offensive coordinator system what's best for Sellers as they make a sales pitch for him to stay and not become the next Miami quarterback that comes out of, out of somewhere else. It goes on and has a great year and becomes a high draft pick. I just mentioned Beck is one of them from Georgia, Cam Ward obviously from Washington State and Incarnate Word from before. So there's a lot of, lot of stuff going on and the wide receiver class is, is as hot in NFL scouting circles as people think. There's just a lot of differing opinions. Some like Carnell Tate first, some like Jordan Tyson first. Some, some like Maai Lemon first. So lot of wild to me. I really like concep all the buzz we've been giving him, all the love we've been giving him. I'm told, like, don't stop. Yeah. You know, not, not that it matters. Like we, we. We like who we like. And, and a. Dion Burks is liked a lot. I could see him as a second round pick. Zachariah Branch is getting some love the Georgia wide receiver. So we're just seeing a lot more talent in that receiver class this year than we expected to have at this point in the season, which is great.
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Interesting.
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I want to get to our fanduel picks of the week before we, we come right back to the NFL draft.
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Hit it.
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We're zagging while everyone's zigging. Everyone's reacting to the, to the college football rankings that, yeah, it gave us some small insights but like, let's face it, the first one, the one before the championship games and the final ones are the ones we're going to do reaction shows and really put emphasis on. A lot of people are doing previews of all the big games and all that stuff. Like, but there's only so much time you have in your week. Our value, we believe in the middle of the week is to provide you with updated draft information that also pertains to what's going on in college football. But it doesn't mean we're not keeping a close eye on all this stuff and it doesn't mean that my mention isn't on a two week run and looking to make it three weeks of of nailing his FanDuel pick of the week doesn't. Let's go that I've hit like nine of my last 11 FanDuel picks of the week including two last week. That doesn't mean I haven't hit two two four leg parlays in the last six weeks and had another one last week. If FanDuel well, I love you and we appreciate our partnership and you keep the lights on and couldn't think of a better partner to have in all this. You give me the Todd's odds and and everything that we have in the FD Sportsbook app is, is just like this perfect partnership for who we are and what we're doing.
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It's awesome.
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It is awesome. But they, they told me I had to do a total yards last week and I choked on it. And if had I put in the pick I wanted with LSU with the points I cover and we hit that's that's now three in six weeks and two in a row. Anyway.
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No accountability on your. No accountability on your.
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Absolutely none. What's your, what's your fan dope?
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So listen, last week I told you Oregon was on upset alert. Watch out Oregon. Iowa's going to be a tough out. They're going to cover Iowa covers this week. I told you Notre Dame. Watch out for this pit team, man. Tough run defense. They got a young freshman quarterback who doesn't just doesn't care playing like he doesn't care house money. You got to watch out Notre Dame. I thought about it. I sat with it. Notre Dame covers. I got Notre Dame covering 11 and a half point spread. I think Notre Dame covers. I think Marcus Freeman's got the boys ready. I think he's hearing all the noise. I think they go into pit and they take care of business. I, I, you know, I just think it's Pitt's been really good against subpar team about subpar teams. I think Notre Dame is going to be a big jump for them and I think the boys take take care of business.
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I totally get it and I'm starting to see you start to learn there are two different brains, the football brain and the money winning in the money winning business. And I'm proud of you kiddo. I'm proud of you. You with me.
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You like it?
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I actually do. I actually do. And I think freshman quarterback, game day, all that, it's just going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot. I'm going. I've struggled with Missouri this year. This time I'm picking against them. I respect their team. I respect their defense a ton, but they've not been the same unit without Bo Proula at quarterback. And now you got Mississippi State coming in, kind of left for dead. Talked about it against Georgia, though. I watched that tape. I saw some good things from Mississippi State. They're not a great football team. They're not a bad football team. They're solid to good football team and they're look, they're hungry for a win. They're hungry to get something from all this hard work and the fact that they're still dialed in. They're still playing with the effort that I saw on both sides of the ball. They had a really bad quarter and a half against Georgia. They finished really strong in that game. I think that they're going to keep it close at Missouri. I like Mississippi State as my fanduel pick of the week.
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Interesting.
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Yeah. Plus seven in that game against Missouri. I really. I feel good about this one.
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Feel good. All right. We'll see. All right. You've never felt bad about any of them.
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No, but I feel better about last week. I didn't feel good. Like, I was worried. I didn't like that wake force outright. Penn State in my short. Outright or almost. Right. The wake hit outright. Yeah. So anyway. All right. We've decided instead of doing a flash mock and it being a scrambled mess and us running around and like, which.
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We will do, which we will have. We will have a mess where we're scrambling around.
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But when we do a flash mock, it's gonna be organic.
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Right.
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And when it's organic, it can kind of be a mess of a show. And since we're only like five, six weeks into this rough draft thing, I kind of didn't want to have a mess of a show yet. So mention I decided to do this, men. Just get his training wheels off. He's got his name all over esp.
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Dude, I'm nervous. I'm not used to this.
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Steve mentioned rankings. It's not the scouts. Like, he's a big deal. So he's got his own mop now. He's got his own mock.
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Now, folks, here we go.
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We're not going to do a full mock draft. That would be exhausting to do. Two dueling mock drafts. What we are going to do, because there are some interesting teams. You've got the Browns with two first round picks, the jets with two first round picks. The Rams with two first round picks. And we're not going to have all the quarterbacks in this. That's the only restriction I put on it. Mensch can make as many or as few trades as he wants, and I can do the same. We're going to go through the first 12 picks and let. Just let it be based off of our individual separate rankings, same draft order, and we'll go through it. The difference is.
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Or.
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The only thing is, the only restriction I put on, on both of us is if I'm getting all this information. And every time I look up at a mock draft or people projecting and all this stuff I like, I'm trying to tell people Dante Moore's going back to school. No one's listening, apparently, because every freaking mock draft I see, I know has Dante Moore in it. I'm trying to tell people Lenore Sellers is about to be a free agent. Sometimes free agents go back home. You get a payday. Sometimes free agents take the money that's out there. But Lenora Sellers also was not developed and scouts are saying he needs another year and could really use a different voice in his ear, whether that's a new coordinator at South Carolina or it's somewhere else. And so we're not allowing Dante Moore or Lenora Sellers. In fact, they will not be in my rankings or Steve's ranking. Well, I can't speak for Steve. They will not be in my rankings.
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They are in my rankings. But I, I agree with the point you're making here.
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Until otherwise notified. So they are removed, as was Archback last May.
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Okay, I respect it, man. I do.
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So if we know what we know and we feel good about the information that we have, let's go with it and not just swim upstream for no reason, because it's cute and it's a big name and it might get a couple more clicks. All right, let me give everyone the top five picks and then we can follow with. With each pick as we unveil them. Right. Number one would be Tennessee as of today. Number two, the New Orleans Saints, followed by the New York Giants at 3, Cleveland Browns at 4, and the New York jets at 5. A lot of quarterback needy teams there and maybe not enough quarterbacks for them. So no further ado, men. Tennessee's on the clock. Who you taking?
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We got a trade. Trade right out of the gate. I'm not messing around right out of the gate.
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First mock what?
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Yeah, I'm not my first mock. First pick trade. Why would jets general manager Darren Muji go out and get all those picks? He's. Darren Muji's calling Mike Borgonzi in Tennessee and saying don't you dare make a deal with Andrew Barry in Cleveland. Before you talk to me. I've got all this firepower. We got to figure out how to get something done. They do just move up the first. So who are they taking? Ty Simpson is the top quarterback on my board. They're taking Fernando Mendoza from Indiana. I think that's a better fit for what they do. I look at that Detroit background with Aaron Glenn and Tanner in Strand, the, the offense coordinator. I see more of a golf comp with Mendoza. Maybe I'm crazy. I don't think everyone's going to agree with me on that. But I see a little more of a golf comp with Menoza than I do with with Simpson. So jets trade up. They use some of these picks that they've got. I think it would take at least their first and next year's first, but they have a million of them at this point, plus something else. But they get it done. Cleveland. I think Cleveland would love to do it, but they don't have the picks to go up there and get the guy that they maybe they want, if they want him, Mendoza. And they had and wanted to fight the jets on this. They don't quite have the same firepower.
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No one does.
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No one has what the jets has have. So I'm going Mendoza, number one to the Jets.
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I think the 2027 quarterback class looming over this draft is going to be a big topic of conversation and I think it's going to devalue some of those picks in the moves.
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Interesting. You think guys are going to wait? You think they're going to be okay waiting?
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I think it's going to be I can have Mendoza and listen, I'm about to make a trade, but not with this pick. Let me just get to my pick. I'm. I'm getting the sense by the time April rolls around there, there could be people throughout the NFL, most importantly in that Tennessee organization that look at Arvell Reese as the next Micah Parsons. And they're not built identically the same. They're not. They don't have the same exact background in terms of how much edge and this and all that. But Micah was an off ball linebacker that moved to edge and became one of the best to do it in a long time and remains that with the Green Bay packers after being traded from Dallas and had you, and had, had you crystal balled it. Micah Parsons. I don't remember that exact draft, but if he, he would have been the first non quarterback selected in that draft given what we know about him right now.
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Yep.
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And I don't, again, don't remember that draft of which quarterback was taken one overall, but he might have been the number one overall pick. Okay, so I'm just, I'm gonna hang on right now before I have Tennessee moving off this spot because it might be a special, special player that they're looking at. And they, and I don't know the market's going to be as. I know there's going to be multiple teams looking to trade up, but I think Arvo Reese gives them what they're looking for. An identity, a, a difference maker, a leader and someone who could become one of the stars in the NFL.
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That's my note, by the way. They, they have to consider Reese here and they will consider Reese. The jets will give them such a haul that they'll move back. So I, I get it.
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I'm with. Yeah, I hear you. All right, so number, so number two then I'm going to have my first trade.
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Okay.
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I'll give you all that talk about 2027 looming and, but I, but I look at this and, and for each, for each organization there's different reasoning. Right. And if we're, and if we're sitting here right now in New Orleans has the number two overall pick, am I saying Tyler Shuck? Yeah, I have an affinity for Tyler Shuck. I, I'm, I'm pulling for the guy for. I just think he's, I think he's what it's all about. I love the, what he had to battle through and all of that. I've seen the, the negatives this year as a rookie, but I'm starting to see more positives. And I'm not saying, you know, one start and a win over Carolina says that he's the guy. I'm, I'm, I'm not doing that, but I am saying organizationally, two things have to be factored in. One is Shuck is showing promise. Maybe we don't have to use this kind of draft pick on another quarterback after drafting him in the second round last year, but we won't know until after another full year. And it just so happens maybe the best class in the history of the NFL draft at the quarterback position is staring us Right in the face in 2027. So let's just hold on a year. We get an offer to move out of number two. Let's do it. Move back a few spots to number five. The New York jets then come up and get their guy. And same reasoning as you. They have more picks than the Rams sitting back there at 10. They have more picks than the Browns to work within a two year span. Okay. And I think that they say, you know, keep, keep the other one this year. We want one of those ones next year. And so they move back and they protect themselves in case Chuck is not the guy. So jets move up to number two. And I agree with you here. Ty Simpson is my guy and I may have come on earlier than everybody else on Mendoza and I still really like him. But I'm taking Simpson over Mendoza, given what I know. But I also. Mendoza over Simpson or I'm taking men. I'm taking Simpson over Mendoza. The jets with this pick at number two after Tennessee takes RV Reese and my mock top 12, the jets are taking Fernando Mendoza from Indiana because of a lot of things you said. And by the way, if this organization decided on Justin Fields to be their guy, they're probably going to want this kind of guy with his mobility over what Simpson provides. And I think he. Yeah, I think the golf thing we can debate later.
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I don't know. Yeah.
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Going that far. But I am, I do get this. I could see a world in which the jets took Mendoza over Simpson. It's not about what I like. It's about projecting what teams would do. The McShay show is brought to you by FanDuel. Ready to fire up your Saturdays? FanDuel's got a boost you don't want to miss. It's called boosting with the boys. And it's giving everyone a college football profit boost every single week. So here's how it works. Each week, we're giving everyone a profit boost to use on college football. No invite only Nonsense. Everyone gets the boost. We're talking real games, real, real teams, real Saturdays with an extra payout on the line. It's easy, it's fun, and it's only on FanDuel. Go to FanDuel.com McShay to download the app and get in on the action. Must be 21 and older and present in select states or 18 and older and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including any token expiration and max wager amount. See terms@sportsbook.fanduel.com gambling problem. Call 1-800-gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut this.
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First of all, it's the Saints. It's still the Saints.
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A
Okay?
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B
Yep. Arvel Reese. I think of R.L. reese and Brandon Staley's system, the defense coordinator for the same.
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A
It's unbelievable.
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B
You, you just think about like Leonard Floyd, the way he played in that, that system when he wasn't even in his prime anymore. Leonard Floyd just blossomed in that system. I think Arvell Reese would be a perfect fit for what they do. And I do think that even if you are the Saints and you're saying to yourself, I'm not really sold on Tyler Shuck, he at least buys you that, that another year, Justin Fields isn't going to buy you another year in New York, man. I think you've got to make a move there. You got to bring a quarterback in if you're the Saints. Tyler Shucks, you know, flashed a little bit. He's still a rookie. You can say, like, we're going to give this one more year to see what happens and it lets you buy some time to go into that next class the year after. To me, it makes too much sense to get Arvl Reese in terms of value, fit, need, all of it. It comes Together. And I'm with you, by the way, even in this scheme, I think Arvell Reese is going to be, he's going to be an edge. I think that's really what his future is.
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A
I don't disagree. I like that pick. So then, so you've got quarterback going one in a trade. You've got Reese going two to the Saints. That trade would be the jets taking Mendoza. Right now you're up to pick three, the New York Giants. What are you taking?
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B
Utah offensive tackle Spencer. Spencer Fano. I think this is a little early. It feels a little early for me and you know, if they could move back a little bit and still get him, I would like that. But you have Andrew Thomas is one of the best left tackles. He's one of the best overall tackles in the league. But then you go over there to the right side and you've got Jermaine alumni and you've got Marcus bow. Jermaine alumni is the, the veteran who's on the backside who I think they could have an upgrade over. And I think Marcus B. Is going to be a better fit at guard than he is at offensive tackle. He was the fifth round pick out of Purdue last year. I don't think he's shown enough. You have a quarterback now that is had some problems staying healthy but you know is talented. Let's shore up that offensive line. Let's keep him as healthy as possible. Go get your starting right tackle. You have potential bookend offensive tackles that to could be elite in this league.
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A
All right. I like it. I actually like it. And we saw how fast those offensive tackles came off the board last year and I, I don't think it's a trend that will, will go away anytime soon. I'm actually at number three. I'm going to take, I'm going to have, I'm going to make my second, second trade of my mock top 12. I'm going to have Cleveland rolling in here moving up just one spot. And you say why? Well, because now it's a fair fight. It's a hatchet at a hatchet fight because the jets with all their picks in this, this year and next year have already moved up. Now it's Cleveland versus the Rams. And I got news for you. With Dante Moore going back to school with Lenore Sellers going back to school, you there's only one other quarterback and that's Ty Simpson. And so Cleveland's not going to sit back at 4 and get. I'm not allowed to swear earlier. Get stuck it to get it stuck to. So they're going to be aggressive and make sure that they get their guy. The Giants are like, yeah, I'll move back a spot. Give me a little. They would love to do that.
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B
I like that scenario.
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A
Your scenario. That may have worked as well. So anyway, in this we got the flip flop here and I've got, I've got Ty Simpson going to Cleveland. It'd be very interesting to see what organizationally is going on there in the off season. Right. Certainly would fit the current regime. Let's see how that plays out. And then the Giants at 4. This is a reach. I'm going to live with it. I love it. But I truly believe the Giants could need a wide receiver.
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B
They do.
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A
Absolutely do. And I don't, I don't dislike your, your, your pick of the offensive tackle Fano Thano, the from Utah. But I'm gonna go Jordan Tyson. And I, I just, I think the Giants, what happened is they, they realized how great of a receiver Malik Neighbors was.
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B
Yep.
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A
But they didn't quite realize because he masked so many other weaknesses and, and kind of took all the, so much attention away. Didn't realize how big of a deficit there was after that number one spot and the lack of depth that they have at that position. I think a sturdy, thick, physical run after catch ability guy in Tyson would be a really good compliment to Neighbors and for Jackson Dart moving forward. So. And then you bring the Arizona State connection with, with Camp Scatter Boo. Hopefully coming back at 100% next year. That would be fun to watch as well.
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B
Did you see? I shouldn't, but I have to. Did you see the scam, the cam Scatter Boo thing about tacos? No. Are you the, are you the alpha with a Taco McShay or is the taco the alpha with you? And what he asked was, do you turn your head to eat the taco or do you turn the taco when you eat it? So if you turn your head, the taco is the alpha. If you turn the taco, you're the alpha. I don't even know what these kids think about anymore. I don't like to get it into your mouth.
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A
Well, like there's also the, the sexual innuendo there that I'm gonna stay away from. So. All right. Who do you get from?
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B
I don't even see like that. I'm just an innocent guy. I don't know.
- [35:17]
A
I know you are. I know you are. But I, I, I've got teenagers and pre teenagers running around this house. They Want one of them wanted to dress up as a pink taco two years ago, like 13 years old. And we had to put the, the kibosh on that. Okay, so, so I got the.
- [35:33]
B
So now I'm at, I'm at the, to get it back on the rails. I'm at the Browns picking four and I'm taking Ty Simpson there too. I think Stefanski, he showed he doesn't need that big bodied quarterback. He wants a cerebral guy. I think Simpson is the best quarterback in this class and I think he's the best fit for Stefanski. I just wish that I had had the, the force, the forethought or the, the genius that you had to make that trade. The Giants and the Cleveland in Cleveland just swap to make sure that Cleveland gets their guy. No one jumps in front of them. And then the Giants get the tackle at four, which is probably a little bit of a better value and they pick something up in exchange too. So, yeah, I mean it's very similar. I've got Cleveland taking Simpson.
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A
Okay, all right, so that works out and we'll, we'll have a graphic at the end where everyone can look and I know probably feels a little complicated, but let's just go through, let's have fun. Give us some information and then you'll be able to see it and then we'll put it out on social media and everyone can get caught up. All right, number five. So fifth pick now for you, it is Tennessee. Move Tennessee. So who does Tennessee take after Moving back from 1 to 5?
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B
This goes back to the opening man and I really struggled. There are three. I think they go edge here because they didn't get Arvl Reese and I think they, you know, that's why Orville Reese makes sense. They need an edge. I think they go edge. I have three guys right there. Ruben Bane Jr. From Miami who we talked, you talked about, by the way. Keldrick Falk, talented edge from Auburn. Only has two sacks this year. If we're going to have the production talk, it's going to have to be with Falk as well. And then David Bailey. I look at the way that defense is built now and I actually like David Bailey from Texas Tech, but there's too, there's too much volatility there. I don't know what it's really going to look like. It'll be interesting to see when the dust settles what they're going to do in terms of building that defense. I trusted the board. I went with Reuben Bain Jr. I don't know if I feel 100% great about it. I could see Bailey passing him. I could see Falk passing him, but I'm trusting my board right now. I'm going Reuben Bain Jr.
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A
Okay. I had New Orleans trading back to this spot at five from number two with the New York jets moving up from Mendoza. Here are the Saints, and I talked about all the reasons why they were willing to trade back, but to me, as I mentioned before, there's going to be a great debate, and it's kind of what you're looking for. Keldrick Falk is built almost like a three technique.
- [37:46]
B
Yep.
- [37:46]
A
Bane is a power left defensive end type, but not the tallest guy. But can he become a better pass rusher than the sack production shows this year? And then you've got. You've got David Bailey, Stanford transfer to Texas Tech, monster season, leading the FBS and sacks. And the tape is as beautiful as the sack production looks on paper. I'm going with Falk here for New Orleans.
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B
Interesting.
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A
Because it kind of feels like he could be the next Cam Jordan. A big physical, and I know it's a new. It's a new coaching regime. It's the same scouting regime. Right. And so I. I could see them going with Falk here at 5. Here's what I want to do. I want to go six through nine. You read yours, because I don't think we have any trades in this range. Right.
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B
No. Give me six through nine, though.
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A
So it's gonna be like. It's gonna be Las Vegas at 6.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Miami at 7.
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B
Yeah.
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Washington at 8 and Cincinnati at 9. I'll go first to give you time because I know you had to regroup. The draft orders are all over the place and they just switched and different sites have different things. I'll go first for you. Okay. So at 6, I went with Clemson defensive tackle Peter Woods. Okay. And the Raiders run defense. I don't know if anyone's been checked into the NFL and studying the Raiders and their run defense, it's been flat out atrocious recently. They could go edge opposite Max Crosby, and I don't. I wouldn't rule that out. I think it's going to be on the defensive side. That unit needs help. Crosby needs help. So it could be a David Bailey here, it could be a Reuben Bain here. I went with woods because I think they've got to shore up the middle of that defense, and they've got to be able to stop the run more effectively. Then I went in Miami, I went with your boy Fano, Spencer Fano, Miami. I mean it's a no brainer, right? It's a new general manager coming in. Got to handle some of the old problems. The old problems were offensive line. They decided to go with Kenneth Granite, defensive tackle last year instead of drafting an offensive lineman. And they only drafted one offensive lineman. It was in the second round. Arizona tackle, guard and. But they only drafted one offensive lineman the entire draft. And so they're going to have to address that position. And. And Fano is a right tackle by trade and a very athletic one. And you still have tuatanga by a loa as a southpaw. So now all of a sudden a right tackle is protecting his blindside. Love that fit.
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B
Then I've got that as well. Yeah.
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A
Reuben Bain coming off the board at number eight to Washington. Von Miller obviously nearing the end. They need an. They need more of a presence on the edge then Caleb Downs, arguably the best football player in this draft. But I got news for you. He's not going to work out at the combine like Eamon Worry did last year for South Carolina. He's having a fantastic. That's your guy. And I'm gonna have to apologize for years to come on Nicki Minwari if this. If this shit keeps up.
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B
Love it.
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A
But. But I think the Bengals just need help on all three levels of the defense and they actually. Safety is a position they could upgrade. And I think Caleb Downs call it falling to nine, whatever you want. He's a safety. He's not going to go as high as he should, but nine would be a good spot for him. So what do you got? Match hard.
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B
It's got. It's hard to find him a home, but I'm going to go with him.
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A
And Jeremiah Love are the two hardest ones.
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B
100% man. I was like where am I getting these guys in? Okay.
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A
But I'll.
- [41:18]
B
I'll start with the Raiders at 6. I want. Keldrick Falk mentioned it. I think they could go on edge opposite Max Crosby. I think it's going to be Keldrick Falk. I think that'll help their run defense. I think that'll help their pass rush. I think that that's the pick for them there. Miami at 7. Similar thought but FO's off the board for me. So I went Francis Maui Noah from Miami. And my thinking is Austin Jackson, the right tackle for the Dolphins has had a hard time staying healthy. I'm not sure you can really count on him to be your starting right tackle. And he's A free agent after next year. But if you don't, if, even if Jackson comes back and he's good there, they need help at guard and we talked about it. Maui Noah might be an all pro guard. If he's not all pro offensive tackle. To me, that's a safe, good pick for them where they build that offensive line. So I'm going Maui Noah there. For the commanders. I look, I got four edges in my top nine. I got four coming off in the top seven picks in this draft. I got David Bailey, Texas Tech going to the commanders. I think he's too good to last. They need to get younger. They need to get more explosive in the pass rush. They go out and they get David Bailey and then for the Bengals. Do you know what the. The Bengals run defense numbers are right now? They're giving up 426.6 yards per game in rushing yards. That's insane. I. Maybe I've got it wrong.
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A
No, you do.
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B
It sounds crazy to me.
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A
No, I must have.
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B
I must have it wrong.
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A
Maybe it's totally take it out if I.
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B
If I got it wrong, Tucker, but it's bad. They're worse. I could tell you this. They're worse than the league.
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A
Okay? It doesn't shock me. What did they expect?
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B
I must have that number wrong. But worse than league. Go get Peter woods from Clemson.
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A
Tucker. Keep it in because.
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B
Don't keep it in.
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A
You can say a thousand rushing yards and I'd be like, I'd have to consider it. It's so bad.
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B
No, this is what I hate because, you know, I double check everything. And as soon as that number came out of my mouth, I was like, there's no way.
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A
No, there's no way. It might be total yards a game and it's a run game.
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B
They're bad at stopping the run. That's the point. You made your point.
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A
You over at 164, but they are lasting.
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B
That's a typo.
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A
And Tucker, keep that in.
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B
Dude, come on, man. Come on.
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A
Anyways, of all the mistakes I've made, that's, that's, that's peaceful.
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B
That would have been a great number. Bad at stopping the run. Go get Peter woods some clams in the defensive tackle. I think they're bad for a number of reasons. They miss tackles. They. They could. They could go in a number of different areas. I'm getting a foundational interior defensive lineman to set the tone for them. I think that's Peter woods from Clemson. And is that. Am I caught up?
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A
That's Not. Yep. Okay, so. So 10, 11, and 12. Originally, it's the Rams in their pick that they traded. They traded. They got in a trade last year with the Atlanta Falcons. And the Falcons aren't playing as well as a lot of people thought they might be. And so now that picks a top 10 pick. I'll go 10, 11, 12 for you here. 10 is. Is the Rams, 11 is Arizona, and 12 is Dallas. I'll round it out here for you and then you can, you can follow Mitch. The reason why I wanted to stop at 9 is because I've got a trade at 10. We all know what. You don't have to know them personally. We all know what, what McVeigh was thinking about. We all know organizationally what they were thinking about. Right. And they wanted to get an extra first round pick. Thinking, hey, our quarterback's 37 years old. He's awesome. These absolutely awesome. He was awesome in Detroit, but couldn't win because they sucked around him. Brought him here. We won a Super bowl and he's still dealing. In fact, you could argue this is his best season. I would argue if the season ended right now in the NFL, Matthew Stafford should be the Heisman, caught up in college, should be the league MVP or very, like right there in the very, very, very tiny short.
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B
I believe in the fanduel odds. It's him and Kayla.
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C
It's.
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B
It's him and Drake May right now. It's there next.
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A
So you think to yourself, worst case, like, he takes a little dip next year, but we don't. There's not the urgency to get a quarterback this year to bring him in and like, and have that one final year. He might have two, three years left. This, this guy, he's a lunatic. And he doesn't, he doesn't die like Brady, but he's still doing Brady stuff. Yeah. Drake May. Drake May and Stafford are tied. Jonathan Taylor something right plus five. Yeah. Finally.
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B
Blind squirrel, right? There we go. Let's go.
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A
All right, so. So I had the Rams trading out of that, that spot, and I think Houston could be a team they're picking at 15 if the draft order today. Moving up for Mauioa Francis. Maui Mauio, the offensive tackle for Miami who you already talked about, he's a.
- [45:55]
B
Massive Maui Oa or Maui Noah.
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A
Okay, so Houston's trading up for Francis Maui Noah. The Bengals didn't rush, give up 460 plus yards on the ground. And I, and I'm not pronouncing Maui Noah's name right. Still, even though I'm Getting closer.
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B
I'm so embarrassed.
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A
Houston overhauled the whole offensive line and it wasn't enough last year. So they've Nick Casario and the. And, and the organization will continue to bring in some. Some pieces to help. And, and I like that because then I think what that deal would occur to get. I don't know if it would get you your first. I'd have to look at the compensation but it would at least get you more ammunition for next year's draft. And maybe with that's their original pick in the first round, the Rams wind up trading out of that and. And get more. They're going to try to load up for 2027 is my guess. Okay.
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B
Yeah, I agree with you. I think that makes sense for them because it's just they're not in that sweet spot like they thought they might have, but they're still in a good place to prepare.
- [47:00]
A
And this quarterback class doesn't have Arch exploding out of nowhere and Sellers having an awesome year and Dante Moore and no one's Nussmeyer and Club Nick. You know, it's just not what we thought.
- [47:13]
B
It just hasn't panned out.
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A
So let's push this plan back a year and it's like the perfect convergence of the 2027 class is now what we thought 2026 might be, but even better. And our quarterback isn't slowing down at all at 37. It's wild. So. So that happens. Then I finally get Jeremiah Love off the board at Arizona. Obvious reasons. You got, you got Connor, who's got James Connor with the injury. He's been unbelievably durable and productive and had an unbelievable career and his age at this point. I thought they might draft a running back early last year. I, Jeremiah Love makes too much sense to Arizona at 11. And then. Excuse me. And then David Bailey. I don't think he lasts this long when it's all said and done. But for these purposes, he goes 12 to the Cowboys. Losing Micah Parsons. They. They bring in David Bailey, the best pass rusher, edge rusher and all around pass rusher in college football this year.
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B
Interesting that we, you know, we obviously have a long history together. I always think that we're going to come up with curveballs and generally it's the same names, different spots, I think. So, like I'm going to go through it right now for the Rams. I got, I got Caleb Downs coming off the board now. Cam Curls, a free agent. I think the Rams take Caleb Downs there. If they could easily trade out, I get it but there's Caleb Downs. That's where I think he finds his his home for the Cardinals. I really thought about Jeremiah Love, man. I really did. Ended up going with Jordan Tyson there because I still have him on the board. So Arizona State wide receiver Jordan Tyson could be a really good compliment to Marvin Harrison. I think they need another wide receiver. That's the route I went and so I got to the Dallas Cowboys at 12 and I got to tell you man, I am a monster Javante Williams fan and watching what he has done in this comeback year after leaving Denver and kind of looking like maybe the career wasn't going well. I've loved watching Javante Williams run this year. He's done a one year deal. Miles Sanders is on a one year deal and now it wouldn't be surprising me if they extend Williams. I wouldn't surprise me if they figured it out. But even if they do, and by the way, Jaden Blue is a complimentary guy. Really has shown enough. Y right Jeremiah Love playing for America's team. Yes please. Yes please.
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A
Oh it be awesome.
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B
They got some other decisions to make though too. They not only are there is Javante Williams a free agent. George Pickins is a is a free agent too.
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A
Yeah, those are one year.
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B
Carnell Tate's a name to keep on there. Keep an eye on there. He could be a guy that sneaks in to the top 12.
- [49:42]
A
This is fun, man. I mean we're in November. Let's not get overly serious. Let's. But, but I feel like honestly, I hope it helped what your your brother.
- [49:51]
B
In law Jeff is going to be like. Man, I thought, I thought you were a friend of Cincinnati. I thought you. I thought you were a friend of the city. We're giving up 426 rushing yards now. Brutal.
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A
Yeah, brutal. You're right. And he's a huge Bengals fan. He's a huge Bengals F. But it was helpful for me to kind of start putting pieces together and start thinking in this mindset. And if you're a fan of the NFL draft and you probably are, if you're tuning into the show and we appreciate you for doing it, hopefully you found this to be insightful as well. And for those of you who subscribe to the McShay Report, I appreciate it. And tomorrow I'm going to pay you back a little bit. I'm going 16 picks deep with explanations and a little bit more on the quarterback stuff. So check that out. And if you're not, then maybe now's a good time to get involved as we start to ramp up the draft coverage. So and google the McShay Report and subscribe there. Mensch. Another five stars for you, my man. Another five stars must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino, or 18 + and present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling Problem Call 1-800-Gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdg.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New.