The McShay Show: Self-Scouting the 2025 NFL Draft - Where We Were Wrong (If the NFL Is Right)
Release Date: May 5, 2025
Host: Todd McShay, The Ringer
Introduction: Back in Action
In this episode of The McShay Show, Todd McShay delves into a self-assessment of his predictions for the 2025 NFL Draft. After a hectic period involving family commitments and travel to Los Angeles, Todd and his co-host Connor reconnect to analyze where their mock drafts diverged from the actual outcomes.
Offseason Plans and Show Updates
Todd begins by outlining the show's offseason agenda, emphasizing their commitment to providing in-depth analysis and fresh content throughout the summer. They received over 400 responses from listeners, which they are actively incorporating into upcoming episodes. Todd shares excitement about new series focusing on the 2026 draft class, including position rankings, grades, and evaluations.
Todd McShay [02:00]: "We're excited to fill the entire summer full of ideas and provide exactly what our audience is asking for."
Main Topic: Self-Scouting the 2025 Draft
The core of the episode centers on Todd and Connor reviewing their draft predictions to identify inaccuracies and understand the factors behind those mismatches. The premise is to evaluate their rankings against actual draft results, fostering a learning experience that acknowledges the complexities of NFL scouting and team decision-making.
Todd McShay [07:28]: "I want to say I was wrong. If Dan Morgan was right and I'm not, by all means, Dan Morgan could be right."
In-Depth Analysis of Specific Draft Picks
1. Kenneth Grant - 13th Overall Pick by Miami Dolphins
Todd and Connor dissect the early-round selection of defensive tackle Kenneth Grant, whom Todd had ranked significantly lower.
Connor [12:00]: "He is a big man who moves well and he's got a very high ceiling, so we'll get into that in a little bit."
They explore Miami's defensive scheme and how Grant's versatility fits into their plans under Defensive Coordinator Anthony Weaver. Despite his potential, concerns about consistency and fit within the Dolphins' pass rush strategy are addressed.
Todd McShay [15:38]: "I don't care if we got a break through one of the windows, because he's already promised he's doing it."
2. Nick Martin - 75th Overall Pick by San Francisco 49ers
The duo examines the mid-round selection of linebacker Nick Martin, a player Todd had ranked much higher. Connor highlights Martin’s impressive college statistics but notes concerns regarding his size and injury history.
Connor [75:00]: "If he works out, he could be a starter like Dre Greenlaw was for the 49ers."
They draw parallels to past successful late-round picks, emphasizing the importance of team fit and coaching in player development.
3. Vernon Broughton - 71st Overall Pick by New Orleans Saints
Vernon Broughton’s selection prompts a discussion on offensive tackle evaluations. Todd had placed Broughton much lower on his rankings, questioning the Saints' decision given their existing depth on the offensive line.
Todd McShay [33:14]: "He has big traits but he was injured most of last year, which limited his tape and evaluation."
Connor counters by praising the Saints' offensive line coaching staff, suggesting that Broughton’s traits could be optimized under their guidance.
4. Devin Neal - 184th Overall Pick by New Orleans Saints
Devin Neal’s sixth-round selection surprises both hosts, as Connor had placed him significantly higher. They discuss Neal’s potential as a versatile running back in a Saints offense that needs depth.
Connor [35:43]: "Devin Neal is going to get some carries, man. They need him to get some carries."
Todd concurs, highlighting Neal’s fit within the Saints’ offensive scheme and his ability to contribute both in the running and passing game.
5. Jalen Noel - 79th Overall Pick by New England Patriots
Jalen Noel’s selection becomes a focal point for discussing the evolving role of slot receivers. Todd had ranked Noel much higher, appreciating his route-running and explosiveness, while noting concerns about his catch radius and consistency.
Todd McShay [40:10]: "He's unbelievably crisp and savvy getting in and out of routes. I can tell you that he's explosive and he can open things up for this offense."
Connor adds that Noel’s fit within the Patriots’ system, led by defensive-minded coaching, could enhance his performance despite his ranking discrepancies.
Lessons Learned and Future Outlook
Todd and Connor reflect on the inherent uncertainties in draft predictions, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and continuous learning. They acknowledge that even seasoned analysts like themselves can miss marks, reinforcing the value of reviewing and understanding these missteps.
Todd McShay [60:56]: "This is fun, man. Yeah, it was good. Little self-assessment, self-inflicted wounds only time. But it's fun to do."
Conclusion: Moving Forward
Wrapping up, Todd highlights the ongoing efforts to refine their scouting processes and prepare for future drafts. They tease upcoming content related to the 2026 draft class and encourage listeners to subscribe to The McShay Report for more detailed analyses.
Todd McShay [62:06]: "In August, I'm going to do the first ever appropriately way too early mock draft. It's a good exercise. It's a fun exercise."
The episode concludes with a reaffirmation of their commitment to providing insightful NFL analysis, inviting fans to stay tuned for more comprehensive coverage throughout the offseason.
Key Takeaways:
- Self-Assessment: Todd and Connor critically evaluate their draft predictions, identifying specific areas where they diverged from actual results.
- Player Analysis: Detailed breakdowns of key draft picks highlight the complexities of NFL scouting and team strategies.
- Lessons Learned: Emphasis on the importance of adaptability and continuous improvement in draft evaluations.
- Future Content: Plans to deliver extensive coverage for the 2026 NFL Draft, including in-depth player evaluations and mock drafts.
Notable Quotes:
- Todd McShay [07:28]: "I want to say I was wrong. If Dan Morgan was right and I'm not, by all means, Dan Morgan could be right."
- Connor [12:00]: "He is a big man who moves well and he's got a very high ceiling, so we'll get into that in a little bit."
- Todd McShay [15:38]: "I don't care if we got a break through one of the windows, because he's already promised he's doing it."
- Connor [35:43]: "Devin Neal is going to get some carries, man. They need him to get some carries."
- Todd McShay [40:10]: "He's unbelievably crisp and savvy getting in and out of routes. I can tell you that he's explosive and he can open things up for this offense."
- Todd McShay [62:06]: "In August, I'm going to do the first ever appropriately way too early mock draft. It's a good exercise. It's a fun exercise."
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