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The College Football Playoff QB Confidence Draft. Plus, the Latest Transfer Portal Buzz.
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Mensch
Foreign.
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McShay
The college football playoffs start this week and it's time for our annual quarterback Confidence draft. Also, just 129 days until the NFL draft. So I gotta ask you men, you good? I'm good, man. All right. Roll that beat Tucker.
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Mensch
He.
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McShay
I'm still recovering, man. Bill's Patriots yesterday snowstorm but it was kind of mild. It was cold, but it wasn't like, you know, frozen tundra, Lambo field cold. Then we get in the car, gonna drive down to the Cape and a blizzard breaks out. The McShay show is presented by FanDuel. FanDuel's got it all. Same game parlays, quick bets for jumping in live and your way so you can build the bet that fits your play. Plus, don't miss out on holiday offers and surprises all month long. Download the FanDuel app or head to FanDuel.com McShay to get started, must be 21 and older in present select states or 18 and older in present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler or visit rg-help. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut. All of a sudden I'm driving over, over the Bourne Bridge and we got, it's like a whiteout and snow sideways and cars spinning. So we stayed in the Cape last night. So we're coming a little just a couple hours late today. Had to, had to get up this morning and drive on back. But everyone, everyone's safe. The roads weren't treated. They are now and we're ready for winter officially now here in New England. Hope wherever you are, you're enjoying the early winter season and, and ready for the holidays. So with all that said, we have the quarterback. We do it every year. This being your quarterback show. Yeah, it's a quarterback driven show. As much as men likes to change that and try to work around it.
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Mensch
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McShay
The Confidence Draft. We did it last year and I want to in a minute get back to what we did last year and learn from My mistakes, at least I can tell you that much. But I do want to start with this. Speaking of quarterbacks, it's newsy. Let's get to it. DJ Lagway just announced this morning he is entering in the transfer portal. I don't want to say it's shocking news, but you did wonder with a new coaching staff coming in, new general manager and Caldwell maybe that they would recruit heavily to get him there. And who knows what went on behind the scenes. Now word is that we're going to wind up seeing Florida go into the portal itself and find a different quarterback, is the assumption. But DJ Lagway is, is moving on from his days at Florida. Initial thoughts on that, Steve, I'm not stunned.
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Mensch
I, I do wonder how that's. Like you just said, you know, we've had a lot of conversations about where college football is now and what does that look like when you're trying to keep a quarterback. Or maybe we' misreading it. Maybe they weren't trying to keep him. You know, he's had some problems staying healthy. He's been a little inconsistent. I think he's a super talented kid. I'm excited to see where he goes next and see what he does. But, and just in terms of big picture college football, what does that look like behind the scenes in terms of maybe trying to keep that player with a new coach going in? So it's obviously big news again, we could jump to all kind of possible landing spots. But I kind of want to say.
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McShay
Yeah, I kind of want to like, like John Sumrall's loss is, is another.
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Mensch
Head someone else's game.
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McShay
Yeah, the obvious one is going to be Miami.
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Mensch
Miami.
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McShay
I think that's one of them. Indiana Mendoza moving on is another that I've heard rumors about. Oregon, if Dante Moore winds up after the College Football Playoff, leaving for the NFL and the place where Oregon's offensive coordinator, I'm not saying he's going to Kentucky, but Kentucky is a much more viable spot for a quarterback. In fact, it kind of becomes a destination for quarterbacks that need a year or two years. Like a Bo Nix, a Dylan Gabriel, a Dante Moore. Will Stein now as the head coach of Kentucky. And that's part of the, the lure of bringing Will Stein in, knowing that you have an edge up on a lot of other programs with, with, with quarterbacks in the portal and recruiting.
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Mensch
What about lsu?
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McShay
LSU is a possibility. They've got a young quarterback that they were, they were trying out.
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Mensch
I know, but I still think, oh.
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McShay
Oh, Lane's never satisfied. Right. I mean, even when he's satisfied, he's not satisfied. And so I, I mean, Trinidad Chambers is a wonderful story, but they, you know, Ferris State isn't going to be where they're, they're, you know, Lane's looking for his transfers every year and so. And Lagway in some regards, fits a similar mold too. Although Lane, I mean, the whole thing.
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Mensch
Do you see the Dan note? Lane retweeted the news of Leg Way transferring. Yeah.
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McShay
I mean, so. So obviously stir in the pot. Yeah. And. And he and Lane can do it with any kind of quarterback going back to USC and the west coast to Jackson Dart and. And Chambliss and everyone else he's had in between. So it's huge news. Also big news for, for our purposes and for college football purposes. Draft and college football. Lenore Sellers, your guy. I happen to like him a lot too, but he's your guy. The reports were when I talked to scouts in the middle of the season and got some information on Dante Moore's going back to school when Will Stein was there. Now it's kind of up in the air again. Also, one of the things I was hearing from scouts was, hey, listen, it's, it's a foregone. It's not foregone. It is absolutely expected that Lenora Sellers is returning to college for another year. What we're not sure of is going to be another school, another program. And Miami was the school that was pointed out. And again, I said at the time, and I'll reiterate, it wasn't insider trading. It was, it was not like, oh, I talked to people at Miami and they're actively. And there's a deal going. It wasn't that. It was. Miami's done this now. Cam Ward from in Incarnate Word and then Washington State into Miami and Carson Beck from Georgia to Miami. And so there was some buzz and scouting circles that that might be the next transfer quarterback that goes in for one year of call it repair, call it tuning up, whatever you want to call it and get ready for the NFL draft where Lenores could eventually be a top five pick. And so that's interesting that South Carolina was able to get Lenoris back as all reports are indicating that that's the direction it's heading. So some big news man on the quarterback front.
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Mensch
I mean, huge.
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McShay
Aiden Chiles, too, is another name. He put his name in. And NFL scouts have been really. And we. Aiden. Aiden Chiles is a name with a fast start to the season that NFL scouts started kind of jumping on, like, we better do some prep on this guy. We started to watch the tape midseason and we're like, needs another year. Not ready. Absolutely. I was like, close the book. Not ready.
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Mensch
But.
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McShay
But, like, his potential. So now he's in the Portal, and he is someone that I think a lot of programs would be interested in. Okay. If we.
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Mensch
He should. Yeah.
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McShay
Oh, he's talented.
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Mensch
Right.
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McShay
Mobile, big arm, all those things. So. So some opportunity for some. Some quarterbacks to find greener pasture in their minds and new scenery, new coaching, new. New supporting staff, you know, or. Or support, you know, supporting cast, I should say, around.
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Mensch
Yeah.
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McShay
Opportunities out there. And that's what the Portal's all about. And. And that's. That's where we've gone. You know, that's where we've gone in terms of college football these days. And instead of fighting. Swimming against the stream, I'm swimming with it, man. I think it's great. I've seen now too many years in a row where these quarterbacks have. It's not them bailing or. It's not them, like, losing out on a job and like, I'm. I'm gonna quit and go somewhere else. It's. I. I only get one shot at this. Four or five, maybe six years, like a. Like a Diego Pavia, whatever it is. It's a limited amount of time to maximize my opportunity, and I'm going to take advantage of it.
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Mensch
Yeah, I agree. I'm going back to the Lenore Sellers thing that's. It's interesting to me is that they hired a new offense coordinator in Art Briles, and I do wonder, are you consulting with Lenore Sellers team when you're doing that? Are you saying. What do you think about the scheme? I mean, to me, this is fascinating how these, these hires are going to go and what kind of effect a star quarterback might have on it. And that's the most glaring example because, let's be honest, I don't think I'm alone here. I think there was a really good shot that Sellers was going to leave there based on what happened this past season and how frustrating it was even as an evaluator to watch that tape, because you're trying to figure out how good this kid is. But the pass protection's not there, the receivers aren't there. It was. It's tough to see how good he is. And then they hire a new offense coordinator. And then you hear this. The. The news come out that Sellers looks like he's going Back again. I wonder how much of. Of a role the player and his team are playing in that kind of a hire.
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McShay
Oh, it's.
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Mensch
It's got to be involved. Yeah.
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McShay
Yes. Yeah. Yes. And it's. In some cases it's productive. And we had a great opportunity last week to, to have a great sit down and discuss the, the big picture of everything with Jake Rosenberg. Right. Of all things, you know, behind the scenes in college football, that leads to the product on the field. And some programs are taking advantage of his services in the athlete group and others are hiring other GMs and doing it their way. And listen, whatever works works. But there is, there are so many people who are influential in what the product is on Saturdays, many of which are qualified, many of which have no business. And so I urge, I urge parents and, and young men to do your re. Research in the people who are around you because it's critical now and it's becoming more important every single day. Yeah.
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Mensch
So we, we.
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McShay
We'll be tracking all of that and keep an eye out on where Lagway lands. The deal's finalized with, with Lenora Sellers, what that means. And then also Aiden Ch and all these other quarterbacks that we suspect there could movement with as well. All right, moving on to today. Second year we've done this last year. I want to go back. Tucker, if you can throw up the graphic. Last year we had the College Football Playoff quarterback confidence Draft. Right. Here's who we came up with as our rankings. That don't look great.
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Mensch
What do you mean they don't look great? I'm okay with these.
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McShay
They don't look horrible. But we had Riley Leonard at, at 8 and Will Howard at 6.
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Mensch
Yeah.
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McShay
And Dylan Gabriel one, which I, I don't have a regret on that one. Quinn Ewers it too. Like, we combine that with Arch. And I think when you look at this list, what do you take and learn from it?
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Mensch
We went. Other than Gabriel, I think. I think we went with kind of the hot hand. I think we love the depth of Texas and the talent there, but kind of like Nico was hot at the time, Cade was hot at the time again. Penn State, that one. I. I kind of feel like how do we do that? I mean, how that must have been. They honestly, that must have been your pick. Let's be honest. So, yeah, it's. And it's. We didn't go. And I really did. It's interesting. I didn't go back and look at this list like you did, but I would say when I was going through and making my rankings this year. I was thinking more of the steady Eddies, not the most talented guys, but the guys you really are going to trust when the game is on the line, who can negotiate this four game run, stay steady, you know, and keep their team calm and get through this. Instead of, oh, we'll look at the skill set, we'll look at the traits and look how we played at the end or maybe hit a big game at the end of the year. And I think that momentum is going to carry over. I did try to make more of a big picture and looking at that list, I feel like at least on my end I was trying to maybe go with the hot hand at the time.
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McShay
I went back and looked at it, you know that there were three clear cut, most experienced quarterbacks in it. Dylan Gabriel was one. Will Howard had 2,816 snaps, 1345 passes. Riley Leonard had 2,423 snaps, 1297 passes. They were two of the most experienced quarterbacks in the dance. They were the two that wound up in the national championship. So I went, I went ahead this year. Let's start with this in reverse order. Well, I excluded two quarterbacks from this graphic that I created. Well, I get in from the Cape this morning, my head spinning. I've got an hour and 15 minutes in the car, listen to some music I don't want to listen to, thinking about how we can make this show better. And I came up with, I'm going to exclude the two programs that we believe should be excluded from the dance.
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Mensch
Okay.
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McShay
And, and the quarterbacks are Jake Retzlaff from Tulane, BYU transfer. And we'll get in, I'll get into kind of the details later. And Alonzo Barnett from, from JMU, who's a JMU lifer, 6 foot 2, 17, red shirt junior. Ratzliff is 61205, BYU transfer. Okay. If you take the other 10 programs that we legitimately think have a chance to compete in this, whether it's make win a game or, or make a run, with the help of Tucker, I created this graphic and Tucker, you can throw it the College Football quarterback Index. Okay. Based off of last year, I put Will Howard and Riley Leonard down the bottom just as a comparison. So, so you could look at those numbers. What's similar here?
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Mensch
I mean just the experience when you're looking at it. Right, right.
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McShay
When you look at Will Howard with the 2816 and the 1345, similar to Carson Beck at the top, 2881 snaps at Georgia and Miami, 1493 passes. Baron Morton, 2536, 1437 passes. The two clearly most experienced quarterbacks in the dance, right behind the only three with over 2,000 snaps are Beck Morton and your Heisman Trophy winner, Fernando Mendoza with 2135 snaps and 1179 passes. Okay, I also created because I started this, if I'm being honest. What are the two things that matter to me as an evaluator the most? What do you do for me as a quarterback on third and fourth down? Do you deliver in the clutch when we need to extend drives? How do you perform in those situations? And then pressure versus pressure. And interesting. Carson Beck versus pressure is ninth out of 10 quarterbacks here, seventh in third and fourth down, but he's got the most experience. So how do we weigh all these things where Baron Morton is third, third on this list and bring in terms of ranking for third and fourth down, but eighth versus pressure. Mendoza's four third and fourth down and ranked second, Pressure. But those are the three quarterbacks I kept going back to saying experience in these situations are critical. So. And then I'll just go down the list. If you're, if you're driving in your car or listening to this and not watching on YouTube, we appreciate everyone who's watching on YouTube. Spotify, listening to Spotify, Apple. Anywhere else you get your. Your podcast, it goes Beck, Morton, Mendoza in terms of experience, then in the thousand to below 2000 snap range in order of experience. John Matier, Oklahoma. Marcel Reed, Texas A M, Dante Moore, Oregon Gunner, Stockton, Georgia and Ty Simpson, Alabama. And then the two that have fewer than a thousand snaps in their career, Julian say in Ohio State, Trinidad Chambliss, Ole Miss. Kind of fascinating when you look at it that way, but Julian Sayan is one in one in terms of rankings third and fourth down and versus pressure. So how do we weigh all these things now that we have more information because we have a year to look back on from a year ago, knowing how important his experience was. I also want to step deeper and I know I'm, I'm previewing all of this before a confidence draft, but I think it's like, let's give some perspective, right?
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Mensch
Yes.
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McShay
What else did Will Howard and Riley Leonard have great defenses.
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Mensch
Correct.
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McShay
And really strong run games that they were both a part of and. And their own Leonard more so than Howard was with. With two unbelievably talented backs in Quinad Judkins and Trayvon Henderson. I watched Henderson yesterday, that Patriots game, by the way. I Know, it was in unbelievable those two runs. He's like 14 carries, but like 160 rushing. The explosiveness that he has. Right. Trans.
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Mensch
Over 20 miles an hour. Over 20 miles an hour in that.
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McShay
In that weather too.
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Mensch
Right.
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McShay
I couldn't go three miles an hour to go up to the bathroom in between quarters. I was so cold. All right.
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Mensch
But my.
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McShay
My point in all this is experience plus defense and run game. Now what's interesting this year in the. In the College Football Playoff head towards the national championship. Eight of the top 12 scoring defenses in the country are represented in the College Football Playoff. Eight of them Mensch. It's Ohio State, Indiana, Texas Tech, Miami, Oklahoma, Oregon, Georgia and Alabama all in the top 12 in that order. And then you've got 24th is Ole Miss, which I was surprised that they were even that high, to be honest. And 41st was Texas a and M got a lot better from early in the season, but those numbers are skewed.
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Mensch
But they were higher.
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McShay
Yeah. Shootouts earlier. So all good defenses, but eight are in the top 12 nationally. And then the run game. I did rankings on that too. I kind of got out of control this morning.
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Mensch
I think you did. I. We're gonna talk. I'm gonna. I'm gonna respond to this.
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McShay
But Mendoza across the board is my point on it all. And that's where I'm going to transition. Over 2000 snaps, over 1100 passing passes and career plus, the number two defense and the number one. No, the 11th ranked run game. He's got the best come plus ranked fourth and second in third, fourth down and pressure respectively. He's got the best resume across the board. So as we start this College Football Playoff draft, I have the first pick because you gave it to me, actually.
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Mensch
Yeah.
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McShay
And I will gladly take it with. Not a surprise. But I just wanted to give all of that as background as to why my. Some of my picks might be wonky today. And I'm cool with that because they would have. It would have seemed wonky last year if I picked Riley Leonard and Will Howard.
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Mensch
Yeah.
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McShay
It would have won two. And they wound up there in. In the. In the biggest dance of all. So I'll go with Mendoza here, which is. Which is chalk, but also aligns with everything that I just showed as a preview.
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Mensch
Yeah. And I think the one thing that you had you. And you did a great job of talking about Mendoza there. I would say the one thing that maybe you didn't talk about was clutch moments. You can take all those numbers. But we. I mean you talk about the Heisman moments for a guy. How many Heisman moments that he had this year? I mean, Iowa, Penn State, who am I missing? All of these moments. I mean, there's four games there, none.
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McShay
Of them true home games. Right.
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Mensch
Four games there that he came out and at some point in that game made a play for Indiana to win was the difference for his team. So you. Can you get into all those numbers? And the tape's great too, by the way. I mean, we could talk about these numbers. The tape's great and then these moments. I think Fernanda Mendoza is an absolute lock. I'm going to push back a little bit on your method here. I love that you got in the lab. I love the third, fourth down thing. I love the pressure thing. I didn't look at it. I mean, I'm a little more of a trust my gut guy, I guess. The. I did not consider running game and I did not consider defense, even though I do think it is a strong indicator of success in the. In the playoff. And I think it really helps a quarterback. I think that's. I was looking at it purely as the quarterback I would trust the most in these big situations. So I didn't really factor that in myself.
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McShay
Nor should you. Nor should you. I'm. It was honestly more like, who do I think is going to make a run when you have a combination of all these things? But I want absolutely. Give some context. But no, this is about the, the individual. If he had the worst defense and the. And. And the worst run game, would you still. If you just believe in this guy more.
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Mensch
Right. Yeah. I also think I have some curveballs in here, so this will be funny if we end up going in similar directions, but for number two, we just get ready into number two. You ready?
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McShay
Yeah.
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Mensch
I took Dante Moore from Oregon and I don't think that's. I think that is a little bit of an outlier, maybe a little surprise. Julian Stan from Ohio State was definitely in consideration for me because of how efficient he's been. And Dante Moore, I know maybe the numbers aren't as good. I think he's been hurt by the lack of health at wide receiver. This is me just trusting my gut with what I see on tape and how. And how poised he is in most situations. I just think that Dante Moore is number two on this list there. It's a. By the way, it is a great list. This is a. Is a compliment for me in terms of Dante Moore.
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McShay
But we talked about. Hey, hey, Tucker. That's a great Tucker throw up the last year's rankings again. Throw up last year's rankings, please. Dylan Gabriel, good player, wound up being a third round pick, a little higher than we expected. Quinn Ewers, seventh round pick. Em Aliava was a pup. Super talented. Kate Clubnik. We've seen what's happened this year. Drew Aller, we saw what happened this year. Will Howard with fifth round pick. I think it was Riley.
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Mensch
You're right.
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McShay
Fifth round, right. They're fourth or fifth. But day three guys, Carson Beck and Gunner Stockton, that thing was a mess. What's going to happen here? You know, Curtis Rourke, late round. Sam Levitt was a pup. Maddox Madsen, you know, like that was last year's ranking. Now Tucker throw up. Throw up the rankings this year. Look what we have to choose from these 10 guys.
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Mensch
Yeah.
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McShay
Reclamation project, day two pick. Baron Morton, he's a day three pick but like complete control and a veteran. Guy Mendoza, number one overall pick. John Mateer. The thumb injury I got it comes back next year. Things go really well. He'll climb maybe into day two. We talk, we're talking about him as day two coming into this year. Marcel Reed, super athlete. Dante Moore, legitimate top five prospect. Gunner Stockton's been awesome all year long. Ty Simpson, legitimate first round prospect. Julian Saying, future first round pick Trinidad Chamble is one of the stories of college football. So like my goodness, is a difference in the College Football Playoff with the quarterback position this year.
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Mensch
Yeah. And he bought me some time to say this more, be more articulate with it. Obviously the loss to Indiana is, is, is a knock on more but you know, I like the way that he played at Iowa. Iowa was a tough place to win and to get them into a field goal position to win that game I thought was again with a lot of injuries at wide receiver. I love the way he played against. I think USC is a much better team than people give it credit.
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McShay
It's.
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Mensch
I have them higher than 16, which they are the polls. I love the way he played against them late in the year and then I love the way he played against Washington, which is a team that historically gives Dan Lanning and Oregon problems. I think he's played really well despite not having a great receiving core around him because of all the injuries.
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McShay
All right. This is a good time to transition. Right. Because we've built this show and our careers in certain ways on, on my guys.
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Mensch
Right.
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McShay
Like that's my guy and my guys. I got a sense because I know I'm gonna go off, I'm gonna go against all the research and everything I did and I'm just gonna go with my gut with my next pick and it's going to be one of just my guys and today's what's different today? Today's my guys is brought to you by Scout Motors. We are pumped about this partnership with Scout Motors. Listen, I love a good shout out. So here's one. The all new Scout Terra and Scout traveler iconic in the 70s. Remember the 70s, man? We were born late in the 70s, Mitch. But you remember in the 80s the cool dads, the cool people running around were in the scouts, right? They're reimagined for tomorrow with plans for advanced four wheel drive. It's one comeback you'll want to watch. And so with Scout backing our show, I'm pumped about it. I'll be honest with you. I want on the list, Tucker. I want on the list. We'll give you some more details at the end of the segment. I want on the list. I want to scale. Look at men's for a second. Put Mensch's beautiful face in that beer. You're telling me that's not a scout guy right there? Cruising around the mountains in New Hampshire, getting down the coast. Come on, get Mensch on the list too, Tucker. Talk to the executive. Get my man a bonus and get him on the list. We need scouts around here. But we're. I just. We're kind of scout guys. It's a perfect partnership. But with that in mind, I give you all that data. I told you all the guys. I told you. Beck and Morton and Mendoza, right? Mattia are the most experienced guys. My third. My second pick. The third pick of this quarterback. Confident, confidence, draft. I just, I have to go with it. Gunner Stockton.
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Mensch
Oh, no. Yes. That was my guy.
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McShay
I love it. It makes the segment even better. It makes the segment.
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Mensch
I can't believe you got that.
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McShay
I should know because, you know, I'm a Ty Simpson lover.
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Mensch
No.
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McShay
You know, you took Dante Moore. That's fine. I would have tape. I would have taken him over Dante Moore. Listen, if you are a.
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Mensch
No, stop it. But anyways, I would. Obviously I wouldn't. If you're. If you look at this at baseball, if you're a Billy Bean guy, if you're a saber metrics guy, if you're a moneyball guy, you love Gunner Stockton. In my opinion. Tell me I'm wrong. He doesn't look, he doesn't win contest.
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McShay
Who is, who is the. The catcher? Oh, Hatterberg. He's like Scott. He's A Scott Hatterberg. Yes, Euclis Hatterberg.
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Mensch
You're right.
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McShay
These are the guys.
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Mensch
They win you games when everyone else overlooks them.
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McShay
Terrible interview. So bad that it's kind of good. It doesn't appear interesting. Looks like he's going to be a future banker or something. But my gosh, he gets on the field and he operates the offense. He knows where the ball is going to go. He shows up in clutch moments. He's carried that team while the defenses had to like be lagged behind. And now all of a sudden the defense is playing at champion level. There's something about Gunner Stockton, I'm telling you. So you know what? Like that to me, he's both of our guys, right?
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Mensch
Unbelievable. He's definitely my guy, man. I love him there. Love him there.
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McShay
It's. It's kind of like a scout. It's like. Honestly, it's kind of like being in a scout terra or scout traveler. Like, you know, when this thing comes out, you just want to be in one. It brings you back to the old days. He brings you back to the old days. Gunner Stockton does of quarterbacks, tough guys like Bradshaw, you know what I mean?
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Mensch
I looked, I went through and I'm terrified of doing stats because the last time I dipped my, my toes in stats I didn't really do great. But this is. I'm pretty sure about this. I double checked.
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McShay
Okay.
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Mensch
Against number six Ole Miss, number 14 Texas. That's a good defense. And number 11 Alabama in the SEC championship game or whatever. They're ranked. Whatever. Okay. He was. He completed 81.4% of his passes. He had 11 touchdowns and one interception. Not a big yards per, but 224.6. Those are monster games. Monster games. And look how he played in those games. I distrust him more than. More than most quarterbacks on this list to do the right thing. And I also know how. I believe that he understands how to get to throw the ball away. I am not the star here. I don't have to force the.
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McShay
He's. He's third on this entire list in terms of NFL rating versus pressure. Like he, he pressure. He just gets it.
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Mensch
He gets. He understands game management as well as any other quarterback on this list. He understands I am a part of this. I'm a cog in the machine. And this is what we are. We are run. We're a running team. We're a tough physical team and we played good defense and we don't. I'm not going to worry about. I'm not going to try to get. This is one thing we criticize about Carson Beck at Georgia, right? They fall behind against Alabama last year. What a Carson Beck do. He tried to score 14 points on every drive. He's forcing a ton of throws. He's trying to make that big play. Gunner Stockton. Steady Eddie. That's what I was talking about, man. He just stays even keel. The heart rate stays the same. The same baseline for him. This is how I operate the offense. These are my reads. This is what I do. And then you just move on to the next play. He is so underrated. I can't believe he took up third.
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McShay
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Mensch
Yep.
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McShay
Your pick. I don't 4 I. I bought you some time Sky Scout Motors bought you some time to think who's going to be number four for you. But go ahead.
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Mensch
I'm good. I know. I know my rankings and I'm good with them. I feel very comfortable and this guy if you're the knock on this guy is probably going to be that the biggest game of the year they lost. But Julian saying from Ohio State the numbers are just too good. He's just too damn Efficient. I look at that game against Michigan, which you, you know, Michigan down year for that team. I understand that. But when you throw that pick early in that big of a game, with the history of that game and the way he responded, I just love that and just the overall body of work this year. I know he's young, I get that. But he's not like, you know, we talked to Urban Meyer earlier this year. He's not a freshman anymore, man. He's got enough starts under his belt. He's played Texas, he's played, he's played in the Michigan game and now he's played Indiana, that awesome Indiana in the Big Ten game. And even looking at that game, I don't know if people are aware of how good that Indiana defense is. And I think he played pretty well. I mean, if we're really breaking down that game. Remember the, when he got tackled for, for the, before he got the, to the line on that fourth down, they had to review that. And then a missed field goal. I mean, he got, I mean, if, if Ohio State's kicker hits a chippy, that's a tied game and, and we see what happens after that. I actually think he played pretty well in that game, if you go back and look at it. So to me, especially considering the defense and the stage, to me, Julian saying at 4 is, I mean, I, I, I feel great about that pick.
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McShay
Yeah. I mean he's arguably, I mean, arguably, he might wind up being the most talented of all these guys. Arguably, he could wind up being, you could argue he could be a number one overall type pick.
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Mensch
But throw, throw up the graphic again. What was he against pressure. And on third was he.
- [34:13]
McShay
He was number one. Number one on third and fourth down. Number one in pressure versus pressure. Those are NFL ratings. If they were to apply NFL ratings, that's where it would be.
- [34:22]
Mensch
It bears out on tape. That's what you see on tape. I mean, he's, I mean, it speaks for itself in my opinion.
- [34:30]
McShay
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McShay
Chevrolet Together, let's drive with the number five pick in the quarterback confidence draft, Carson Beck.
- [37:40]
Mensch
This. This is ridiculous. No, it's not ridiculous.
- [37:44]
McShay
No, it's what I have.
- [37:45]
Mensch
Oh, that's what I have.
- [37:47]
McShay
Oh, okay. All right. I can't. I was gonna sit here and defend.
- [37:50]
Mensch
What, your guy, Ty Simpson. What happened to Ty Simpson?
- [37:54]
McShay
That's NFL love. And honestly, mid season, I would. I would have scrap mid season like, two thirds away into the season. I would have scrapped all these. All this data that I've come up with, and it might wind up coming to bite me. But I'll tell you. I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna give you a sneak peek right now because I filled out my brackets. I owe it to Dan and Connor, by the way. No, that's. That's stuck in the cape.
- [38:18]
Mensch
Did you get an extension?
- [38:21]
McShay
Apparently, Hopefully. But I got Miami beating Texas A.
- [38:27]
Mensch
And M. I would not surprise me. Would not surprise me because of the.
- [38:31]
McShay
Experience that Beck brings to the table because they've kind of flown under the radar. And when I look at him like, yeah, pressure ranks. He's nine out of 10 quarterbacks that I put in. I put in the system. He's seventh on third and fourth down. He's got a great defense, does not have a run game much of one. Eighth in that list, 77th nationally rushing game. But it's not about. It's not about the. The exterior factors. It's about Carson Beck. And, yeah, like, I don't like the press conferences after the interceptions. I think he's done a lot of growing, though. I think he's done a lot of learning. And I think there'd be nothing better for Carson Beck than to get an opportunity to shove it right up George's, you know, behind side. Yeah. And in order to do that, you got to beat A M, and then you got to beat Ohio State. And by the. By the way, I noticed the bracket, Ohio State kind of got jobbed, and it's. So they're. They're playing in Texas, and if A M wins that first game, they're playing in. In Jerry's world, Arlington.
- [39:36]
Mensch
Yeah.
- [39:36]
McShay
They play in the Cotton Bowl. How did they.
- [39:38]
Mensch
And doesn't Georgia play in Atlanta? Am I right about that, Jordan?
- [39:43]
McShay
It's the. The Sugar Bowl.
- [39:46]
Mensch
Where's the Sugar Bowl? Is that not Atlanta? Sorry.
- [39:49]
McShay
It's New Orleans. Right, the New Orleans. Oh, okay. Yeah, New Orleans. So. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I. It's hard for me to do it, but sometimes you got to trust your system. And I see the flaws in Carson Beck, but I also see the improvement. I see the maturity in his game. I see the way they finish down the stretch, and sometimes you have to have it ripped away from you. Twice now he said it ripped away Georgia Ferraris girlfriend.
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Mensch
Still doing it.
- [40:22]
McShay
It's a four thing.
- [40:23]
Mensch
Still doing it.
- [40:24]
McShay
And then the season was basically ripped away from him. The opportunity to go to Miami and bring him to a college football playoff. And then they got late life and they. And the college football playoff committee did something that we. I didn't and I know a lot of people I talked to after the fact who were laughing at our reaction live on reacting to the show. What? No, there's no way they chose chose Miami over Notre Dame even though they should have the head to head. So he's got.
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Mensch
Miami's a good team though.
- [40:54]
McShay
Miami's a good football team and that defense is really good. All right, so that's, that's five. So Carson Beck was.
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Mensch
Hold on. What does the bad game. And, and I had Carson Beck of 5. I'm, I'm agreeing with you. Devil's advocate. This is one of the reasons, one of the reasons I didn't put them higher is the bad game pops up every once in a while. Louisville this year, bad game. Alabama last year. He gets on these roles and then all of a sudden you get that bad game. If he can avoid that, I'm with you, man. If he can avoid that, that out of nowhere, out of characteristic performance, you.
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McShay
Know what scares me the most?
- [41:25]
Mensch
But he's rolling right now in that.
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McShay
Game specifically is A and M lost their last game out and lost to Texas. There's something that, that does in terms of getting, getting the, the fellas back like focused and dialed in. So. All right, anyway, who's, who's up for you? Six, of course.
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Mensch
Ty Simpson, Alabama. I listen, I will say this about Ty Simpson. He would have been higher. If you're telling me I'm getting Georgia, Vandy, Missouri. Ty Simpson.
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McShay
Yes.
- [41:56]
Mensch
That stretch of how well he played that period of the game, the period of the season.
- [42:01]
McShay
I.
- [42:01]
Mensch
He's higher for me and it's one of the reasons why I'm at 6. He has not played at the same level since South Carolina. And while I don't consider the run game in terms of where I would rank these guys, I think Alabama's lack of a run game has led to bad habits for Ty Simpson. So I don't have him higher for that reason. But I think this is appropriate because of what he can do when he's paying at his highest level, which is operate that that offense as good as anyone else operates their offense in the country. I mean, he's accurate. He gets the ball out on Time he spreads the ball around. Give him time and give him a little bit of a run game. This guy is going to be awesome. But you look at the one first year starter, hasn't played as well since South Carolina. I think it really knocked him down the list. But six feels good to me.
- [42:52]
McShay
Yeah, I like that. I think he's earned six. I think he earned higher earlier in the season. I love the guy. I love the way he plays the position. I worry about the inexperience. I worry about the. The five games in a row with the. With putting the ball on the ground.
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Mensch
Yep.
- [43:09]
McShay
I worry about his number one wide receiver. Like I don't know what's going on with Ryan Williams.
- [43:14]
Mensch
Right.
- [43:15]
McShay
Worry. I worry about no run game. And again, these are. These don't factor. Like my confidence in Ty Simpson himself is extremely high. My confidence when you include some of the factors makes me want to put them like even lower on the list, to be honest. And. And things that are out of his control.
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Mensch
Right. Right.
- [43:36]
McShay
Here's a tough one.
- [43:38]
Mensch
Is it? I feel good about my seven. The top seven.
- [43:42]
McShay
I really like the two guys that I want to pick. I can't do it.
- [43:52]
Mensch
I hate that we have the same list. I already know. I already know.
- [43:54]
McShay
No, you don't. I'm actually struggling. I've got two that are right in the same bracket. I'm going with Baron Morton.
- [44:08]
Mensch
Oh, stop it. Stop it. This is a great list of quarterbacks. And I mean no disrespect to Barrymore. I've got some really good things to say about him. No way.
- [44:21]
McShay
I believe he's the perfect captain for that ship. That's 2,536 snaps, second most in this entire college football play. If I told you Will Howard or Riley Leonard.
- [44:34]
Mensch
Right.
- [44:35]
McShay
Was my second or third pick last year, you would have said, get out of here.
- [44:40]
Mensch
Okay.
- [44:40]
McShay
Because we both view it from an NFL draft lens. Right or wrong. Probably too much. I'm removing NFL draft lens. They haven't lost the game where he was a starter, sir.
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Mensch
I get it. I guess.
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McShay
I'm not saying he's gonna put up big numbers, but I'm saying my guy at. My guy at seven versus your guy at two is probably going to win in the second round of the playoffs in Miami, the Orange Bowl.
- [45:16]
Mensch
It's going to be a great game. It won't be because that. That you. What? You. You're not saying that his experience going to be. You think that Texas Tech is going to beat Oregon because of Baron Morton.
- [45:28]
McShay
Being better Than Morton is going to play his perfect role in that game.
- [45:33]
Mensch
So you think Texas Tech is a better team than Oregon? I'm okay with that.
- [45:39]
McShay
I'm just saying I'm relying cute here. I'm relying on experience this year. I learned from my mistakes. Go ahead.
- [45:46]
Mensch
I mean, you're getting a little cute with how you're wording that.
- [45:49]
McShay
He also started. He's third. He's third and he's third on this list, man. Third and fourth downs. He delivers when you need him. Keeps it. Keeps drives extended, allows that defense to get ready and rested. Now he's eighth versus pressure.
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Mensch
Yeah, Let me, let me, let me rattle off a couple numbers for you here.
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McShay
Okay? Through.
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Mensch
He's 12 for 19 with two picks against Utah before he got hurt.
- [46:14]
McShay
Yeah.
- [46:15]
Mensch
First BYU game, 53.1% of his passes.
- [46:18]
McShay
I understand the second BYU game he had.
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Mensch
I mean, he played better, but. Okay. Not great. I don't. I like.
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McShay
Who's this? How many points do they score in those games? Here's another nine. 36.
- [46:32]
Mensch
Was it because of him? I mean, against Utah, Will Hammond came on when there was a. I think a seven point game. BYU, they had 29 the first game and 34 the second game. It wasn't. I mean, you looked at that. You know that the second, the Big 12 championship game, that defense went off at the end and I mean, that's why they scored somebody. Just stop.
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McShay
Tucker.
- [46:52]
Mensch
Tucker.
- [46:52]
McShay
When you create a graphic, when you create this graphic.
- [46:54]
Mensch
You're needling me.
- [46:55]
McShay
You are. When you create this graphic, 1 through 12 at the very end, I wanted, I want on the side to be like a little asterisk or note on who picked who. And then I want to remember this when we get into our week leading up into the College Football Playoff. And I want to revisit this. Okay.
- [47:10]
Mensch
And because Texas Texan offense, awesome overall team, you're gonna act like that's because whatever. Did durability come into this at all for you?
- [47:21]
McShay
Like with material for me?
- [47:23]
Mensch
No, with Baron Morton missed two games this year. He's been banged up a lot, man. There's been times where he looks like he's. He's barely moped tough. By the way, this is one of the nice things I'll say about Barry Morton. As tough as they come.
- [47:33]
McShay
Yes.
- [47:33]
Mensch
I mean, he takes off his helmet, his hair.
- [47:36]
McShay
His hair's flopping around.
- [47:37]
Mensch
He looks like a pretty boy. He's not. He is a tough, tough, tough. Yeah, yeah, I know. It makes no sense to me because I. You look at Him. And you're like, all right, pretty boy. And then he goes out there.
- [47:47]
McShay
Tough, though. That's. That's.
- [47:48]
Mensch
And he plays. He's had some kind of lower body injury where he's playing on it. I mean, the dude's rugged, and I believe in it.
- [47:55]
McShay
I believe in him.
- [47:56]
Mensch
He is nowhere near the runner that Riley Leonard was last year, and he's nowhere near as mobile as Will Howard. I don't think there's. There's. He's. I had him 10 on my list.
- [48:07]
McShay
Okay. All right, go ahead.
- [48:10]
Mensch
Number eight, Trinidad Chambliss. I don't know why you're hating on it.
- [48:14]
McShay
This is the clearly least experienced quarterback in the top. Top 10. Go ahead.
- [48:20]
Mensch
He's thrown for more than 300 yards in four of his last five games and seven times this year at the SEC level. I'm worried about no Kiffin. I am worried about that. And it did come into play of like, how is that going to affect this young's man's confidence and the. In what's going on and all that and how well he's prepped. Maybe. Maybe would have been ahead of Simpson If, If. If Kiffin's still there. I'm gonna be honest with you. 18 touchdowns of three interceptions. He's done a good job of taking care of the ball. He can. He's rushed for 470 yards and six touchdowns. I mean, he's. This is the guy. He's like Gunner Stockton, Little. You know, Little Trinidad Chambliss from Ferris State. I mean, how is he going to go out there and compete with these guys? And then he just goes out and absolutely balls. The Tulane doesn't want to see him again, I can tell you that. I mean, I think he threw for 300, rushed for 100 in that game. 400 yards of offense just from Trinidad Chambliss. I. This is. He's another one of those guys you look at and you. And you think that he doesn't look like your traditional quarterback, but he is so damn good that I think he. He deserves to be at least seven on this list.
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McShay
Number eight's John Mateer.
- [49:27]
Mensch
I struggled with this one.
- [49:29]
McShay
Yeah, well, I made it easy on you so that you. You could. So that you didn't have to choose material over Reed. I will. It. It's a mild indictment on. On Reed, and I just do. I don't trust him. I believe in his skill and his running ability, and he has some moments that no other quarterback in this group can have. However, I just don't Know when it's going to pop up. And it popped up in the first half against South Carolina. It popped up in the second half against Texas. I just don't trust that going in. I'd rather steady and Matier for. Listen, he has material. There's a reason why he's 9 on this list.
- [50:06]
Mensch
Right.
- [50:06]
McShay
And not higher because you still, even without the thumb, you have some Matier moments. But the thumb injury absolutely changed who he has been as a passer ever since. I'm hopeful and again, this is at 9, but I'm hopeful. John Mattier is. Had a few weeks to kind of reset. They didn't play in the SEC championship game, so their last game was the end of November. It gives them a few weeks to get ready for, for this, you know, this first game against Alabama on Friday night. I just believe in him. I would when he's right. I'll ride and die with John Matier. I really will. And I'll take that.
- [50:47]
Mensch
I agree with.
- [50:48]
McShay
I'll take the, the, the valleys with the peaks. Yeah, but we'll see. But I, I struggled with those two from a experience. Matier's slightly more experience. You know, a hundred, like almost 200 more snaps. Couple hundred more. Almost 150. Like somewhere in that range. More, more passes. But, but yeah, it's, it's not pretty. In terms of third and four, he's 10th out of 10. In third and fourth down, he's 10th out of ten versus pressure. That thing came off the rails after his thumb injury beginning with Texas. And we'll see if a few weeks to heal kind of reset mentally too will help him. But what it's not going to change is the offensive line and it's not going to change the lack of a run game. So he's left with that.
- [51:36]
Mensch
I put Reed ahead of Matier. Those were two really. That was really tight for me. By the way, did you have Chambliss behind or ahead of these two?
- [51:46]
McShay
I had Chambliss behind them because of the inexperience. I'm an experienced guy in this list.
- [51:52]
Mensch
Yeah.
- [51:53]
McShay
That's what you're doing otherwise. Yeah.
- [51:54]
Mensch
You know what? I, I, I respect it. I respect that that's what you're doing and that's what you're going with.
- [51:58]
McShay
And then you, and then you remove Kiffin. And I just got to be honest about, you know, like I gotta, and, and I like I've been beating the drum. I think you take a shot at him late in the late rounds as an NFL draft prospect if he doesn't get that extra year.
- [52:12]
Mensch
But so get back to the Mater versus Reed because I think that's we, you know, whether or not we had him the same spot on our list. Those were the two guys that were right there, I think in the same bucket. I Mater had two, three interception games. One was against Texas, which I don't think he had any business playing in that game. I mean he was coming off the thumb injury and I, so I kind of throw that one out. But he did have three picks against LSU in the season finale and we've seen that with him in the past. He's going to put the ball in harm's way. And I gave Reed the slight edge because Reed can do the same things. Right. But Reed has a win at Notre Dame. I actually give him some credit with the way that they beat South Carolina after a terrible first half and then to come back and have that performance. I, I, I think he gets a little credit for that, to be honest with you. I hear you. I just, I, to me that was a little bit of more of an edge and I think Reeds had to shoulder more. This is going to sound crazy because if you've been watching Oklahoma, you know how much materials had to dunk had to do for that, that offense. But you know, you look at that Oklahoma defense and I think Marcel Reed hasn't had that Oklahoma defense and I think there's been times where he's had to make more plays and there's been a little, maybe a little bit more pressure on.
- [53:21]
McShay
He's had a better running game.
- [53:22]
Mensch
I don't know. It's slight edge.
- [53:24]
McShay
This is both, both are carrying their run game.
- [53:27]
Mensch
Yeah.
- [53:28]
McShay
At least down the stretch when you're.
- [53:30]
Mensch
Looking at it, you're just kind of, you know, it's very close to me. Give me one or the other. And by the way, I'll take either. Again, this list compared to last year's, it's amazing.
- [53:40]
McShay
Either we're literally at 10 and like still have passion.
- [53:42]
Mensch
Give me either of them. Yeah, I kind of like the, the guys we're going to talk about at the end here. I kind of like some, some traits they have. So it's, it's interesting to me.
- [53:52]
McShay
Alonzo Barnett, jmu or Jake Retzlaff from Tulane? I'm gonna go with Red Slaff because I, he's proven to be a winner. I know Barnett's a JMU lifer and is, I think he's a red shirt junior, but I think this is his fourth Year there, Red Slap has just been a, and mind you, Barnett has been a better runner and he's rushed for 544 yards and 4.7 per carry and all that stuff where retslov is just 118 yards. There's no winning here. But I'm going to go with the more experienced guy, a BYU transfer. Yes. I recognize that he was just 5 of 17 versus Ole Miss and that's the opponent. Yep. And he was just 50 with two interceptions and the other loss that they had against UTSA. But he is a winner. He's all. Two years now, two different programs. He's lost two games in each of those seasons. Okay.
- [54:57]
Mensch
I like his traits too, man.
- [54:59]
McShay
Byu. Yeah. Yes.
- [55:02]
Mensch
He's got a good arm. Like I, I like his traits.
- [55:05]
McShay
He's completing over 62%, 14 touchdowns, six intercept. Like none of it's, none of it's jarring or jumping out at you. They're just, yeah, it is what it is. They're playing Ole Miss. So it's, it's going to be a long day at the office.
- [55:20]
Mensch
It is. He does lead Tulane with 610 rushing yards and 16 touchdowns, by the way. Who, I mean, 16 rush for.
- [55:30]
McShay
Oh, okay. Yeah.
- [55:31]
Mensch
I mean he's, he's. The 16 touchdowns really jumped out at me. He's not, when you watch him though. He's not. Maybe.
- [55:37]
McShay
I looked up last year's. I was going back and forth between BYU and he didn't rush for as much, but. Go ahead.
- [55:43]
Mensch
He did not, he did not rush as much last year.
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McShay
Was it 118 yards last year? I think I was mixing them up.
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Mensch
Nope. 417.
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McShay
I don't know what the hell I was doing. Yeah.
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Mensch
Yes. We're not stats guys. We got to be careful.
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McShay
No, we're not. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't really try.
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Mensch
We are trying, but I, I, yeah. What happens with tape? Guys try to get into numbers. Yeah, I, I, Reds left, two year starter. Good traits again. I think a good runner, obviously a dangerous guy in the red zone with 16 touchdowns. So, yeah, I like him. I went with Alonzo Barnett ahead of him, Alonzo Bernard iii. And one of the reasons I did it was this kid went into North Carolina last year with jmu and again, I understand North Carolina is not a great program, but it's an ACC program. They went on the road, he went, he threw for 388 and five touchdowns in that game. They won. It jumps out to me. I watched him on tape for 102.
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McShay
Versus Louisville in a loss. He did go ahead.
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Mensch
He, he got hurt in that game.
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McShay
4040 versus Troy in his last outing. But go ahead.
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Mensch
100 true. 100 true. This is.
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McShay
But I hear you like you're, you're. I'm looking for something. No, you're looking for something. Show me that you've done it. Show me in a big moment you've done it versus better competition. I like it.
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Mensch
I should have known you were gonna bring up the Troy game. But I like the way he, he kind of flicks. He just flicks his wrist and the ball comes out. I mean, he comes out with great zip. He's a big play waiting to happen. He makes big plays with his feet. He could take the top off the coverage. If you're looking for a guy that you want to take, who's going to be a home run hitter, right? If you're coming up here and you're not, you don't have a solid roster. And as a base. We're going to all baseball metaphors today for men. Dan, I hope you're happy. If you have a. Guys that you don't have a lot of great hitters on your roster. If you have a home run hitter, it means something because you can get runs on the board, right? And I think he's a home run hitter. And if you're looking for guys that are going to take big swings, to take down, you know, Goliath, then you need a guy like, like Barnett III who can take, again, take the top off the coverage, make plays with his feet. So also gritty dude, he tore his ACL late last year, came into this season, didn't have the starting job, was platooning, and then won the starting job during the year. I kind of like that, that perseverance, that grit. That's why I want them slightly higher than Jake Red soft. I will say this. All of these quarterbacks, if you, if you have a team who's in the playoff, I mean, it does range Mendoza and then everyone else, really. But these are some, these are some really good quarterbacks, man.
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McShay
Yes. And I, I don't, I don't wish the task on, on Barnett III on anyone. No, no. Going from Virginia out to Oregon to play that team and that defense. But yeah, it is what it is. And these, yeah, this is an opportunity. And let's see which one of these guys steps up. This is fun. I like doing this. I like. And, and I like. Now we get to see. When you have one year of data, sometimes it gets skewed in one direction. Too much. And maybe we, maybe it was just because Riley Leonard and and Will Howard had the best defenses. Maybe I put too much stock and experience this year. But I can say this from going back and doing that exercise with you focusing a little bit more on the traits and the guys we typically would pick and me focusing on more on like the experience and the guys fitting their role and all that, I feel like it's a more balanced rankings than it was a year ago. Yeah. And at the end of the day, Mendoza, Stockton, Moore, those are saying those are the, those are four of the best quarterbacks in the, in the dance. And also they've got chances to make real serious runs in this thing. So it should be a lot of fun. So you got your bracket in. I'm going to turn my bracket in. We're back on Thursday. Working on a guest sent a text. I don't know if I've gotten it back. We'll let people know. But yeah. And then. And all of a sudden we're back. We got Friday night game, three games Saturday. Give us some feedback, folks. What do you think? Should we. We're thinking of Saturday night show going back to the normal. But we could be talked into something else. If, if we could be talked into something else. Let's put it that way.
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Mensch
Atb get your, Get a word in, man.
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McShay
ATB and Cole Marie and H and Holly, Jeremy Godden. Yeah. And the whole, the whole mafia, if you will. If they, if they speak loud enough, we might hear you. Fun show. I love it. Big week. Yeah.
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Mensch
That was great. I love that one. That's a good one.
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McShay
I can't wait for the college football player.
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Mensch
We do it every year. Yeah.
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McShay
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