The Latest Top-12 Intel vs. What We Would Do in the First Round

Summary

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The McShay Show

Episode: “The Latest Top-12 Intel vs. What We Would Do in the First Round”

Host: Todd McShay (with Daniel Jeremiah)
Date: April 22, 2026
Publisher: The Ringer

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the top-12 picks of the upcoming 2026 NFL Draft, offering both what league insiders expect to happen—and what analysts Todd McShay and guest Daniel Jeremiah would do if they were in the GM’s chair. They compare league “intel” with personal evaluations, debate key prospects, and break down the first dozen picks pick-by-pick, exploring the decision-making logic of each team and each spot on the board.

Their approach isn’t just rumor-mongering—they make clear distinctions between what’s likely vs what’s ideal in their eyes, reflecting on how front office politics, shifting draft boards, and recent trends affect each selection.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Balancing League Intel & Personal Boards (03:52–04:57)

• McShay and Jeremiah set the stage: there’s a whirlwind of intel flying around, and it changes rapidly during draft week.
• “We’ve worked 360 days or 355 days watching tape, studying, preparing… interesting and fun, but some really good football conversations happen.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 03:52)
• Emphasis on transparency—sources, mock drafts, and real conversations often reveal differing priorities and evolving thinking in NFL war rooms.
• “Let’s today... I’ll tell you what I’m hearing. It’s from NFL teams and it’s what they think.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 04:18)

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2. Pick-by-Pick: The Top-12 Analysis

Pick 1: Las Vegas Raiders – Fernando Mendoza (brief mention)

• Considered a lock at QB; not the core discussion of the episode.

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Pick 2: New York Jets

Debate: David Bailey (Edge) vs. Arvell Reese (Edge) (04:58–05:57)

• League expectation: Bailey to the Jets.
• Jeremiah: “I would take Reese. I think he’s going to be a more dynamic, explosive player. I think when 10 years from now, Arvell Reese is going to be the better NFL football player, more dynamic, impactful defensive player...” (05:14)
• McShay: “If I had to choose between the two, I would take Bailey.” (05:52)
• Both see it as a good dilemma; on their boards, Bailey is #6.

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Pick 3: Arizona Cardinals

Contenders: Jeremiah Love (RB) vs. Arvell Reese (Edge)

• Ownership wants Love, but GM Monti Ossenfort is eyeing Reese or a trade back.
• McShay: “Running back at three is too rich for me... edges are more valued for good reason.” (07:37)
• Discussion about trading down, with a focus on O-line needs (Francis Maui Noah, Spencer Fano).
• Evaluating risk if you trade back: “If I let Maui Noah or Fano get to Andy Reid at 9, I gotta believe they could take him.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 11:13)
• Decision: Both would stay and take Arvell Reese if unable to move back.
  • “At the end of the day, I think you just stay and take the second-best player on my board at a premium position.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 11:36)

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Pick 4: Tennessee Titans

Options: Pass Rusher (Bailey or Reese), Sonny Styles (LB), Jeremiah Love (RB)

• League buzz: Could go for Styles to play the Fred Warner role; running back talk died down then bubbled back up.
• Jeremiah: “As much as I love Sonny Styles… I’ve got a young quarterback, man… I would take Jeremiah Love.” (13:45–14:05)
• McShay: Agrees it’s early for a RB but supports Love if the top edges are gone; “He’s the best player in this class.” (14:45)

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Pick 5: New York Giants

Options: Jeremiah Love (RB), Jordan Tyson (WR), Caleb Downs (S), Francis Maui Noah (OT)

• Internal debate, factoring organizational tendencies and board management.
• McShay on Love: “Unbelievable talent at running back… can come in and help your quarterback not only improving the ground game but also being a weapon in the receiving game.” (19:04)
• McShay notes Love's improved pass blocking: “He was so talented in 2024, 2025 he was a different person in pass protection.” (19:30)
• Both agree Jeremiah Love is the right pick at 5, especially given recent running back injuries under Harbaugh.
  • “We’re going to take the best player in this year’s draft with the number 5 overall pick.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 21:10)

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Pick 6: Cleveland Browns

Focus: Offensive Tackle

• Candidates: Francis Maui Noah, Spencer Fano, Kaden Proctor.
• McShay: “If I’m a gap scheme… going Maui Noah; if I want a zone… Spencer Fano.” (24:27)
• Decision: Both would take Maui Noah to solidify the offensive line, with WR planned for later (24:46).

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Pick 7: Washington Commanders

Debate: Caleb Downs (S), Carnell Tate (WR), other DBs

• New regime, desire to build around defense (Quinn) but offense needs help too.
• Jeremiah: “It’s a mandate that we get that defense fixed…” (28:53)
• Both: Ultimately pick Carnell Tate for offensive firepower:
  • “You just can’t let my franchise quarterback… be in a situation where he doesn’t have the tools he needs to be successful. I would take Carnell Tate.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 31:02)

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Pick 8: New Orleans Saints

Candidates: Carnell Tate (WR), Jordan Tyson (WR), Reuben Bane Jr. (Edge), Monsour Delane (CB)

• Saints need playmakers, good value across positions.
• Jeremiah: Leans Bane or WR after weighing depth: “I’m taking Reuben Bane because I can get a corner down the line. And honestly, my corners… are only as good as my safeties unless they’re transcendent.” (36:02)
• McShay: “It feels like if you take receiver, you’re not reaching… but there’s better players, maybe available.” (35:54)

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Pick 9: Kansas City Chiefs

Focus: Edge (Bane if available) or WR (Tyson)

• “My intel is Bane, if he’s here, or wide receiver. So we’re going to give him Bane.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 37:57)
• Both pick Reuben Bane if available.

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Pick 10: New York Giants (second pick)

Best OL/Guard Available: Venga Yan

• Fits Harbaugh’s mentality; need at guard over tackle (38:33–38:45).

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Pick 11: Miami Dolphins

Best Player Approach

• “They need everything… who’s the best on our board?” (Daniel Jeremiah, 40:08)
• McShay: Suggests Carnell Tate or Monsour Delane depending on board.

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Pick 12: Dallas Cowboys

Lock: Monsour Delane (CB) if available.

• “Turn it in. It’s over. Yeah.” (Daniel Jeremiah, 42:35)

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3. Draft Culture, Trades, and Smokescreens (Throughout)

• GMs often leak misinformation in the final days.
• Many teams want to trade down in the top eight, but markets may not materialize; “Would you take a less-than-market-value deal to move back?” (Daniel Jeremiah, 08:14)
• Real vs. fake rumors: “I feel like Charlie Day in Always Sunny in Philadelphia with all the threads connecting…” (Todd McShay, 13:05)
• Key insight: Trust older, persistent rumors more than late-breaking, possibly orchestrated rumors.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The decision came down to Bailey or Reese… So for 48 hours we got misled a little bit and we’re back on it.” — Daniel Jeremiah (01:34)
• “Running back, at three, is too rich for me. As much as I really like the player, Jeremiah Love is the best player in this class.” — Todd McShay (07:37)
• “You just can’t let my franchise quarterback… be in a situation where he doesn’t have the tools he needs to be successful.” — Daniel Jeremiah (31:02)
• “That just makes me more comfortable. Again, the offensive line is not as big a need… so it comes down to Jeremiah Love.” — Todd McShay (20:33)
• “Tomorrow is the final mock draft 5.0. We will do a show on it, we’ll break it down… This is the first time ever, folks, the NFL Draft is live on Netflix and you get to watch it with us.” — Daniel Jeremiah (43:08)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:52–04:57 — Setting the Stage: Real vs. Rumor, How the Process Works
• 05:09–05:57 — Jets Pick 2 Debate: Bailey vs. Reese
• 07:02–11:36 — Cardinals at 3: Love vs. Reese; Trade Back Scenarios
• 12:05–14:05 — Titans at 4: Love or Styles?
• 16:04–21:34 — Giants at 5: The running back dilemma & board management
• 23:16–26:30 — Browns at 6: Offensive tackle focus
• 27:01–31:28 — Commanders at 7: Defensive mandate vs. WR need
• 32:09–36:40 — Saints at 8: WR/Tate, Edge/Bane, CB/Delane evaluations
• 37:02–38:10 — Chiefs at 9: Simple best-player logic
• 38:33–41:23 — Giants, Dolphins, and Cowboys: filling needs, best available, lockdown picks

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Final Thoughts & Tone

The episode is lively, authentic, and at times self-deprecating (“I feel like Charlie Day…”). Both hosts openly challenge and cross-examine one another’s picks, modeling the debate inside real war rooms. They separate gossip from grounded rumor, and their mock is a blend of “what’s likely” and “what’s optimal.” For draft fans, it’s a crash course in both league logic and the value of sticking to your board.

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Listen for:

• Deep breakdowns of top prospects and team fits
• Realistic war room “would you trade down?” scenarios
• Insider reflections on how and why draft information gets muddled days before the event

Avoid:

• General intro, outros, or sponsor ads (summarized episode content only)

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For the full top-100 and mock draft, check out Todd McShay’s Big Board at The Ringer, and tune in to the special Netflix livestream during the NFL Draft.

Transcript

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What's the league saying? What should they do? That's what today's show is all about. Two days until the NFL draft. You good men.

[Todd McShay]

I'm great, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Tucker, roll that beat. FanDuel is a wonderful sponsor of this show. Said it from day one. I dabble in it. I love it. I love the app. And with NFL gms, utilize it. I hear you. I hear everyone out there. Yeah. I said Bailey one day I said Reese the next I said Bailey. I said, oh, interesting odds on +480 or whatever the number was. You're listening to the McShay show, presented by FanDuel, and soon we'll all be listening to all the names called in this year's NFL draft. But with FanDuel. And you don't have to just listen because FanDuel has all kinds of bets on where players will land. You know, I love this stuff. Not only can you bet on who will be drafted first overall, but you can also bet on whether a player will go in the top five, top ten, and so much more. So if you don't already have it, be sure to download the FanDuel sportsbook app today. Must be 21 and older in select states. 18 plus in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler, call 1-887-897777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut. Hey, listen, let's get, let's get this straight. I'm talking to NFL teams every day and I'm, I'm getting information that is from an organization. We're talking about the other 31 teams and I'm talking to a GM and then I'm talking to an executive and then I'm talking to a scout. And so there's just a lot of information flowing, right? And so I may have, and I probably did get used on the jets number two overall pick. I don't like, I do care. I'm not going to, like, hide from it and retreat. And I'm sure as shit not going to be stubborn and not come back and say, hey, 10 days ago, I had the right information then. And that lasted about eight days and for 48 hours. I think I might have been used as a friend of a former friend for a friend of this to get out there because maybe, maybe Arvell Reese could drop some more interest in the number two overall pick. Who knows? And it's not even about, like, do you. Well, all that matters is I get it right at the end. It doesn't really even matter then It's a mock draft. What are we talking about? Fanduels is wonderful sponsor of the show. I love the app. Mensch loves the app. NFL GMS check in on the what are the odds and all that and and yeah, we have a sponsorship and so one has nothing to do. There's church there. State promise you okay, that's number one. Number number two is both players made sense And I promise you this. The decision came down to Bailey or Reese And I know 10 days ago they were still kind of ironing out all those things, so. So for 48 hours we got misled a little bit and we're back on it. Today's show is not about the information though. I will share it.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

feels like 10 days leading up to every draft mensch you and I get like throwing on this roller coaster of all right, we've worked 360 days or 355 days watching tape, studying, preparing, go to all star games, going to the combine, all that stuff. Get our draft boards up top one hundreds coming out tonight, right? Yep. Mock drafts coming up tomorrow. They're two separate entities. This is the mock draft. Get the sources. What's going to happen and it's exciting and it's fun and some real good football conversations happen and you learn some different things about organizations and what they view. And so it's really all good. But I don't want the stuff to get lost. I don't want like the real to get lost in all this. So let's today I'll tell you what I'm hearing, okay? And it's from NFL teams and it's what they think and they're calling and asking me questions and I'm asking questions, but mostly there and we're going back and forth. So it's what they're talking about. So hopefully if you're in it for that today, you're going to get plenty of it. But like, let's kind of remember this is what we do, right?

[Todd McShay]

Is it the right thing?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Will we make this decision? So number two, David Bailey is going to Be the pick for the New York Jets. Then at number three, it gets interesting. We've all heard, oh, are you good

[Todd McShay]

with Bailey over Reese?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I would take Reese.

[Todd McShay]

I would take Bailey.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I would take Arvell Reese. I think he's going to be a more dynamic, explosive player. We'll see why, where he winds up landing. I think it's very important you have the right plan for him, the right utilization of him. I think when 10 years from now, Arvel Reese is going to be the better NFL football player, more dynamic, impactful defensive player in the NFL than David Bailey. I obviously love both of them. They're both in my top six players. I believe I gotta go and look at the definitive board, but it's out and you're looking at it. What do I have? Bailey? Six.

[Todd McShay]

You have Bailey at six.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Thank you. So six.

[Todd McShay]

I'm with you. Either one I like, of course. But if I'm. If I had to choose between the two, I would take Bailey.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay, so now we're on to pick three. Pick three. Here's the information. Why does the love stuff leak in the last hundred hours? Is it phony? Is it real? Jeremiah Love. Ownership is the word that I'm hearing for every team. Here it's the owner. Yeah, yeah. Here's the owner, too. The owner wants. Bidwell, wants the. Wants Jeremiah Love. But. But Monty wants Austin Fort. The general manager wants whatever edge. Whatever edge, assuming they stick. What I do know and what I know, everyone in the organization is united on let's try to get a trade out. So for these purposes, we know it's if. If they stick and pick, it's either love or it's the other edge, which it. Which it will be. Reese. So it's Love or Reese, then you have the history. Well, let's. Let's get into this. You're Austin for owner says I love. I love Jeremiah Love, but it's your decision. I hired you to do your job, and that's what a good owner does. Do your job. Who is it?

[Todd McShay]

Reese? I'm taking the edge.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Are you worried about the history of A hundred percent. We've. We've brought in conversion players before. Isaiah Simmons being a great example. A day on Buchanan's a different deal, but still there's a third one that I keep forgetting that Darius Robinson was

[Todd McShay]

the defensive tackle size.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes, sort of. So there's been first round guys that have not been. This is a specific role. And they've tried to convert or use in hybrid. Hybrids.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That have not been worth the Value doesn't factor in.

[Todd McShay]

Oh, it does factor in. I just think that running back, I mean they have so many other issues. That running back at threes is too rich for me. As much as I really like the player, Jeremiah Love is the best player in this class. I think edges are more valued for good reason. They help you win football games quicker than a running back will. And I don't know if they're built to really have Jeremiah Love come in and hit the ground running. So to me, you take the edge, you take the safer pick. My question for you, other than that, do you want to talk about whether you would take Love or Reese? I want to know. Everyone in the world knows these guys want to trade out. They want to trade back. Would you take a less than market value deal to move back? Because that's. They might.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You might have to take that. Absolutely. Within range.

[Todd McShay]

What's range? Give me a range.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So here's what I'm concerned about. If I'm Monty Austin Ford. Okay. I'm concerned that there's. There's two offensive tackles that you believe can absolutely solve my problem. And that's assuming that you believe both can. In Francis, Maui Noah and Spencer Fano. Miami, Utah, respectively. It's draft week. Can't assume that. Everyone's watching.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We got to make sure that we, we let everyone know. So there's two offensive tackles that are sitting there atop the board. Right. And then you have the question of beyond that and looking at their situation, obviously they just resigned. Paris Johnson at left tackle. We know that they brought in Isaac Sumalo. Now you've got Elijah Wilkinson at right tackle and Oli Udo like it's. They need a right tackle. We all know they need a right tackle.

[Todd McShay]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So Maui Noah and Fano are both veteran long time veterans at the right tackle position. 24 starts for Fano. And Ma, we know is a three year starter at Miami. After Fano played his first year. I think it was 11 or 12 starts at left tackle.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So both are like. But there's Maui. No. The reason why these offensive tackles aren't in the Joe alt range. Or you go back to like we could go all the way back. But is because Maui Noah could be a guard. You worry about that a little bit. Better fit at guard. I don't think. I think he's a right tackle. So if you're asking me who I'm taking, I'm moving back with the hopes of getting Maui Noah. But can I move past six?

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So Tennessee. Am I going to just move back one spot. Yeah, I'd do it.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't care what you give me.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

If I don't want Reese and I want to move back, but then I'm still faced with him, I take him. Maui Noah, too. I don't view it as too high. It's like if I need to solidify my offensive line. But I do view it as this. There's Jeremiah Love, there's Arvell Reese, There's Sonny Styles, There's Caleb Downs, and there's Bailey in this class. And Bailey's gone. So on my board, the best four players are still sitting right there. I'm taking Fernando Mendoza out of this, obviously.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Jeremiah Love, Reese Stiles and. And down.

[Todd McShay]

So who are you taking?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm taking Arvell Reese. Okay. I'm taking Arvell Reese because I'm not prepared. I'm telling you, I have this offensive tackle issue.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I want to move down, and I'm taking a bad deal to move down, but I can't move past.

[Todd McShay]

It's got to be. So it's got to be Tennessee.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I can't move past six.

[Todd McShay]

No.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I can move to five. But Giants aren't moving up.

[Todd McShay]

Nope.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They don't. Cleveland's retreating if they can.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But you got to assume Cleveland's gonna stay at 6, so. So if you're comfortable with both offensive tackles, I can go to seven and I can go to eight. I can't go to nine, because if I let Maui Noah or Fano get to andy Reid at 9, I gotta believe that they could take him. Even though they need an edge and a wide receiver.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They could take them.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So that's the move for Arizona. At the end of the day, I think you just stay and take the second best player on my board at a premium position. And that's Arvel Reese. And that's what you said, so maybe that's what they decide to do.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Ownership throws a wrench. Number four, Tennessee. Here's the information. It was Jeremiah Love, then it wasn't Jeremiah Love. Right.

[Todd McShay]

Is it love again? Are we back in love?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, I'm told it's pass rusher or Sunny Styles at number number four.

[Todd McShay]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Tennessee's number four is pass rusher or style. And the pass rusher would be Bailey and Reese. So in this situation, whether it's Arizona taking recent three or a team moving up it, and Reese goes three, if it goes Bailey, Reese, then. Then you're sitting there and I'm told it could Be Sunny Styles over Jeremiah Love. That's the information right now because of the Fred Warner in that system. Everyone I talk to in the league is like, yeah, we view it this way, but Salah is. I've even heard sort of like went into meetings, head coach. It's about like build the defense around the off ball linebacker. Right. So yeah.

[Todd McShay]

You know what's kind of interesting about that?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What?

[Todd McShay]

Is we keep hearing that the Giants are out on Styles. Maybe that's because they know he's not going to be there. Maybe that's why the Styles. The Giants talk has all died down because now they think he's going for.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't believe anything right now.

[Todd McShay]

I know this is. I'm just trying to put all these things together and I hear you like conspiracy theory wise. I feel like Charlie Day and always Sunny in Philadelphia with all the threads connecting and all that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The smart information is go back to. Honestly the combine. Yeah. And. And definitely go back to 10 days in prior when teams were still feeling this thing out rather than, you know. Yeah. Ping ponging off of leaked information. But more often than not is leaked for a reason.

[Todd McShay]

Do you like Styles there?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No. I would take Jeremiah Love.

[Todd McShay]

Really?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. He's the best player on my board. I'm sitting at 4. I've got a quarterback that now I can get. I can throw him. I can throw him a screen pass and pick up six. I can, I can get him involved in the passing game. I got Pollard. We can keep each other healthy. I, I get it. I understand. But the, the edge rushers are gone.

[Todd McShay]

Right. That's what justifies it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Right. And I've got. I'm staring at Jacob Rodriguez and C.J. allen and Jake Galde in the second round.

[Todd McShay]

Good players, good player, good values in that range. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I absolutely. You know how much I love Sonny Styles. Got a third on my board, but I got a young quarterback, man.

[Todd McShay]

Would you get Carnell Tate there? Would you consider it?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, no, I'm kind of. He's safer. He's. He's really. He's going to be a really good player, but I don't know that he's ever going to be this like A.J. brown. JSN. I don't think he's.

[Todd McShay]

That it makes sense in this situation. Like, I don't love the running back that early, but he's the best player in this class. And the two edges that you would take, I mean if Reese or Bailey are there. We both agree that it's one of those guys, right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes.

[Todd McShay]

But in this situation, they're not there. And as much as I love Sonny Stiles and think he's one of the top five players in the draft, he's an off ball linebacker. I'd rather take Jeremiah Love to. I think it does surprise me when you do this though, because you're just, you're, you're not as bad as Mel Kuiper, who would never take a running back in the first round. But this is early for a running back.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I've never had a running back number one on my board.

[Todd McShay]

So there you go. So the Giants.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So the Giants. This is the interesting part, right? So here's the information. The information is now all of a sudden, again, it's Jeremiah Love. Right. I've got to assume it's Styles based off the information, despite where we're going. So let's, let's live in a world where it's Mendoza, Bailey, Reese Styles off the board. Okay. And also our top four players on the board. So you're sitting there at number five and you're the Giants. No, I said no, not Love. So Love is still available, the number one player. Right.

[Todd McShay]

You switched it because you believe Styles is going to Tennessee.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Correct.

[Todd McShay]

Even though we would go in a different direction.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Correct. Okay, so Jeremiah Love is on the board. Right. Jordan Tyson, who you just made this trip, is on the board. Caleb Downs is on the board. Right. Francis Maui Noah is on the board. Here's the interesting part for the Giants. Okay? I'm getting used to these new cameras. As you can probably tell if you're watching on Netflix or you're watching on Spotify. I the red always means it's on, but there's green on the other one. So I'm going to go green. But now I'm back to red, so I gotta follow the red. So I'm retraining my brain. So we're gonna go red here. Wait, it's gonna go red there, but then we'll go single shot back to red. So here we go. So Shane part is fascinating because how much power does he ultimately have in this? And Joe Shane, for all of his faults, managed the hell out of the 2026 NFL Draft. Okay, pick the perfect spot to go get Jackson dart after Abdul Carter. And I know all the nonsense that went on in the background more than I, a lot. But they nailed it. You were looking at another situation. But you could also say, well, the last time they had two top 10 picks didn't quite nail it. Todd Thibodeau and Neil. Right. So there's all that. But now you've got to manage this thing because we know they like Jordan Tyson. The Giants are not one of those teams that hide their interest. They. They went out to Arizona for a second time, sent Shane out there. They love Jordan Tyson. But there's also that downs factor at the safety position with Harbaugh. Okay. And I'm told they really like downs then I'm told recently. And do we trust recent information? Jeremiah Love. But you can't go Jeremiah Love and then Jordan Tyson because Jordan Tyson ain't going to be there at 10. And I got news for you. Downs very well may not be there at 10, but could be better shot that he's there at 10. So if I'm Joe Shane, I'm looking at this from a managerial standpoint and I'm trying to work with Harbaugh and Harbaugh's, from my understanding, getting the last trigger on things.

[Todd McShay]

But what's our best one, too?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But I don't even know that you can look at it as a one two, because what's our best one? That's what I'm trying to say. Looking at our board, our situation, our roster.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Is it taken Jordan Tyson, even though it's higher than what you'd like to at wide receiver, is it taken down? Caleb Downs at safety, is it taking Francis, Maui Noah at tackle. I wouldn't do it because I think you get four guys we talked about yesterday.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

To fill one spot, figure it out, coach it, coach it up. Or take another guy in the third and try to help them. Or is it. Who did I not mention there?

[Todd McShay]

I think you got them all.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Love. Tyson Downs, Maui Noah.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah, it's love. Jordan Tyson. I. I love the tape. I worry about the durability concerns. It's too early. Caleb Downs, I love the player, but for safety, that's just too early. So. And then Francis Mountain Noah, like, are we going to talk about the fact that he might have a hurt? He has reporting of a herniated disc. And now there's just one more layer to that evaluation, so. And again, like you said, there's bodies there. They have players there. Jermaine Illuminor is coming back. A right tackle. They don't need a right tackle. They need a guard. I think now you could, you could fill that knee by kicking a luminor inside. I understand all of that. But then you have Jeremiah Love and you have a young running back in Scatter Boo who's coming off an injury and has, you know, I don't I think reckless is the wrong word for his running style, but it is a very aggressive, physical runner that's more likely to. To get hurt, unfortunately, and I hope that's not the case. But we, you know that that's the reality. And you have this unbelievable talent at running back that can come in and help your quarterback by not only improving the ground game, but also being a weapon in the receiving game. And one of the things we've talked about with Jeremiah Love, that I don't think it's enough attention is the leap that he made as a pass blocker over the last year. He was so talented in 2024, 2025, he was a different person in pass protection. He just got way better. You're adding all of these things. I mean, that just makes me more comfortable. Again, the offensive line is not as big as a need. Jordan Tyson, the injuries too early, and Caleb Downs a safety too early. So it comes down to Jeremiah Love.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I AM Absolutely, positively, 100% taking Jeremiah Love here at number five. And I'm going to make that the establishment. The establishment is we've got a strong offensive line that we've been trying to build for years and we're going to line up and we're going to punch you in the mouth. We got two backs that can beat you and one's got four, three, six speed. The other one is a pounder and

[Todd McShay]

is just what a great complimentary backfield that could be.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And then we're going to take pressure off of Jackson dart there and, and let's see who's available at 10. Maybe it's still Maui Noah. Maybe it's Fano.

[Todd McShay]

Maybe it's down.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Maybe it's down.

[Todd McShay]

Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We'll work that out later. I'm taking the best player in this year's draft with the number 5 overall pick. See you at pick 10. Yep. No question about it. And honestly, that's what the, that is what the information is in the league. Not necessarily that the Giants will absolutely take love at five, although it is the recent information. But the, the information is more is more. So he ain't getting out of the top five.

[Todd McShay]

So remember Harbaugh in, in Baltimore had good backfields and then they had injuries hit the backfield. I mean they lost multiple running backs in one season. He might want to sit. He's going to say to himself, we need more than one or two. We need depth.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There.

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, so we have Cleveland at six. We all know that they would like to trade back for the same thing and and I've heard from Maui Noah to Fo to Proctor and I don't know if Proctor, like Proctor could be the surprise because Cleveland's capable of anything. The 6 overall pick. There are people in the league that are a lot higher on pro on Caleb Proctor.

[Todd McShay]

Kaden Proctor.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Kaden Proctor. Not Caleb Proctor. Who? The defensive tackle from Southeast Louisiana who's probably going to be a top 100 pick around 94.

[Todd McShay]

Love it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Kaden Proctor from Alabama fits the analytical portion of it with the longer arms and he did everything at the combine and he is big and traits matter at tackle and the flying J. The analytics from DP D Podesto to and it's this is what they do. Right. I'm not saying he's going to be the pick there. It could very well be Maui Noah who didn't work out at the combine like right. But it's going to be an offensive tackle if they stick there. I don't even think I have to ask you who you would take. You would take Spencer Fano. Yeah.

[Todd McShay]

And I would. I wouldn't even look back.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You think he's the best offensive tackle in the class? I think is I think honestly if I'm, if I'm a gap scheme, if I'm like Power O. I'm gonna line up with Maui Noah if I want to be a zone. Wide zone. And like, Utah's offense was wild, man. Like tackles pulling out on screens. And it was. It is. Yeah, it was a wild ride.

[Todd McShay]

So Fono's also played on the left side, so I. I like that aspect of it because I think they need. I think they need a left tackle. So, you know, it's not that I don't think Maui Noah can do that. And it is an. It's abnormal for a guy with arms that are that short. I mean, we talked about Will Campbell last year and how short his arms were. Well, Spencer Fonda's arms were a half inch shorter than Will Campbell's at the combine.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So that's.

[Todd McShay]

That's what we're talking about. But the athletic profile is of a left tackle. The way he moves is like a left tackle.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We got Monk in there, like with Georgia. Think about the Georgia off the Georgia offensive linemen that come out who actually test really well. Bigger guys test well.

[Todd McShay]

But we're talking about.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We're talking about Baltimore.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Maui Noah.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah, we're talking about.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's Maui Noah.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Glad we solved that.

[Todd McShay]

That's one we can count on.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, but they could also trade out because. Right, but. Yeah. So Cleveland. And they'll get their wide receiver later. There will be a wide receiver at 24. Those receivers are going to go, but they're going to go after the offensive tackles and some of the edges and the two safeties and all of that. So there's that. So we both agree, like, as the gm, you got to look at. Okay, Todd, what do you need? Monkey net. Is not myself enough. You know, third. What is it speaking myself in third person.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So Monkin, you want Maui Noah? Fine. You get Maui Noah. Got it. That. That solidifies the offensive line. Now we get to wide receiver at 24.

[Todd McShay]

Right, right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And there's going to be concept. Casey Concepcion or. And. Or Denzel Boston and. OR Omar Cooper Jr. Yeah, those are the three names. The and ors. Those are the three and ors at wide receiver.

[Todd McShay]

I mean, there's an Omar. Do you say Omar Cooper Jr. Yeah. You did?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Okay, so that's what. That's how they're going to manage this draft is. Is everyone's understanding and it's the right way to manage it. So at seven, we get to Washington. Styles went three, Right?

[Todd McShay]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Sorry. Four. So in this situation, we've got Mendoza going one to the Raiders, obviously, Bailey two to the Jets. Three is Reese to the Cardinals. Four is Tennessee taking Styles to be their Fred Warner. Five is the Giants to of six is Maui Noah. This is actually how this could thing could wind up working out. Seven is Washington Sunny Styles is not sitting there. Caleb Downs is there and Carnell Tate are the two. There's been a lot of talk about Tyson there. I'm told I was told a while ago they're a tape team.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah, we're take guys.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, David Blau, if you look at I actually did was looking into David Blau and what he wants to do. He's looking for physical rece guys like Carnell Tate. I can simplify it for that. The description of what he's looking for in his first year's offensive coordinator surprise decision. Either a big mistake or they got ahead of someone who's going to be an absolute star in this league. Obviously pulling for the ladder. Yeah. But he wants a big physical receiver. Carnell Tate is. Is a big physical receiver, right? Yeah. And so that's. That would be a perfect complement to a former. Another former Ohio statewide receiver. What would we do? Because I'm told it's that it comes down to Downs and Tate. But I want the. To give you the honest to God truth. The last conversation I had was very authoritative and that was this pick will be defense. Quinn has got it. What's the word I want to look. It is priority. Is a. Is too light a word. It is. It's a. It's a demand.

[Todd McShay]

Mandate.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's a mandate.

[Todd McShay]

Thank you.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

My brain doesn't work that well this week. It's a mandate that. That we get that defense fixed and we'll give you the resources. But if it's Caleb Downs and that it's got to be Caleb down.

[Todd McShay]

Monsore Delane from lsu maybe could be.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm. This is the information portion of it it in this scenario it would be Downs or Tate. But I'm told defense is going to win out with this pick. So I would expect if Sonny Styles is not there, it's going to be downs. Now I'm asking you with Styles off the board and Delane is there and Tate is there and Tyson is there and. But I think we can rule out Tyson because it won't fit what offensive coordinator is looking for. So it's Downs and it's Tate and it's. It's Delane.

[Todd McShay]

I'm taking Tate. You got to get Jane Daniels another playmaker. And as much as I like Jordan Tyson and think that he could be the best receiver in this class, if he's healthy and didn't have injury history, that's just not the case. He.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He does.

[Todd McShay]

I mean, he's had a hard time staying healthy. And to me, the risk versus reward there isn't good enough for me to pull the trigger on Jordan Tyson. I'm taking Carnell Tate. You've had success with another Ohio State receiver and Terry McLaren. Bring in this guy. And I know it's a different leadership group, but bring in Tate, you get that weapon on the outside. There's no such thing as a safe pick, but I like the risk versus reward of Tate there. You stay in defense.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Caleb Downs is in a different class of. And. And it's. You look at the board and you're like, well, you have Downs at five, and you've got Tate at seven.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I mean, there. You know me with my tears, right?

[Todd McShay]

He's a different bucket. Yeah, different.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Different tier. I'm taking Tate, too. I am. I am. I believe. I believe this organization. It. Now, if Downs was an edge rusher or even like an interior defensive lineman, I'm not talking team specific here. I'm talking like. Like, that would trump it for me. But we're talking about a safety versus a receiver. And you just look at the.

[Todd McShay]

The.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The annual. You know, the top five paid at each position. It's not even close. Like, safety's near the bottom. Wide receivers, number three only behind quarterback and edge. And I can't let my. I just can't let my franchise quarterback, who already is coming off a year of injury, be in a situation where he doesn't have the tools he needs to be successful. So I would take Carnell Tate.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah, I agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I actually wouldn't blink, even though there's. There's a difference in grade, and it's slight, and it looks like a 93 to a 92, but in my mind, that. That's something. Yeah, I'm taking carnotape. All right. But I think just for the folks at home, I think that that could be Downs.

[Todd McShay]

So are we going with Downs off being off the board?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Okay, now you get to number eight. They got Tate. They get Tyson, they get Bane. The New Orleans Saints do, and this is what they want. If they don't have to trade up to go get a guy in this situation, it's Tate, Tyson Bain, and. Oh, and Monster Delaney.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah, this is the. This is the delaying range. I think. I think seven might be a little too early, but we're getting in right now. This is when I would Start to look for him to come off the board. The corner from lsu.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't disagree. That's the intel. It's, it's Tate, Tate and Tyson. It's Delane and Bane and Mention's getting calls right now from the league. No, I, I, It's not dissimilar from what I just said. Except now we've got an edge in there for. And I know the importance of that position. Brandon. Brendan Staley. Brandon Staley needs like an explosive get off guy. He also needs a Monsour Delane. Exactly. To a T. But I'm looking at Chris Olave and, and I gotcha.

[Todd McShay]

I, you, you don't even say it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The V. Yeah. With his 25 catches a year ago. And I'm like, I don't know what. How do I roll? How do I roll a guy out there. How do I roll a guy out there with a lava in that. And so that, that's the frustrating part for me. Right. I'm looking at New Orleans and they pick, they pick again at 42 and 73. They get eight picks overall and one each round.

[Todd McShay]

That's what I was just gonna chalk.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So now I gotta look at this as a combo pick in the second round. There's going to be a run of these corners. Yep. And you're gonna have like the Avion Terrell's and the d' Angelo ponds and Brandon's. Brandon C. Brandon C. Say we think

[Todd McShay]

Chris Johnson will be gone at that point.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Chris Johnson will probably be gone at that point. Jamad McCoy if he falls it's only. But it won't be that far. It'll be because of the knee. Colton Hood will be gone. Yeah. So. But there, there will be a couple corners when we pick again that would be worth the value. There'll be a couple edges worth the value. There will be a couple receivers like there will be.

[Todd McShay]

Yep. That's what I like. I like you need a receiver.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'll take Carnell Tate here again.

[Todd McShay]

You would?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Todd McShay]

I like getting a delay, a monsoon delaying right now and then getting a Jeremy Bernard a stribling in that second round rage. That's a better, better combo for me than the corner you're going to get in the beginning of the second. I think I, what I'm basically saying is that I like the depth at corner more. I mean a receiver more than I do at corner. And I am very high on Monsor Delaney.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But they're pick, they're picking a 42 and to get. I'm picking at 42. And so you're looking at Chris Bell, Stribling Bernard. Those guys.

[Todd McShay]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Or you're looking at Avion, Terrell, Brandon, Sissy Ponds, d' Angelo Pons. Yeah. Yeah.

[Todd McShay]

I like getting the corner now, but

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I also need an edge.

[Todd McShay]

I know. That's. That's.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's where it's like Malachi Lawrence, our Mason.

[Todd McShay]

Thomas Akis, maybe.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. But. Yeah. Yeah,

[Todd McShay]

I think the lane's different than the rest of the corners in the class. You're getting the top player at the position. Although Reuben Bain Jr. Would be really, really tempting to me.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The beauty is New Orleans kind of can't go wrong here. They're going to get a great football player here.

[Todd McShay]

It feels like if you take receiver, you're. You're not reaching. I'm not saying that you're reaching, but I feel like there's better players, maybe available.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Honest to God. You know what I'm doing? I'm taking. I'm taking Reuben Bane. Okay.

[Todd McShay]

I'm fine with that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm taking Reuben Bane because I can get a corner down the line. And honestly, my corners, a lot of times are only as good as my. My safeties, unless they're transcendent. And I think Monsor Delane is really, really good. I don't know that. He's not Patrick Surtan. He's. We'll see. Yeah, he's. No, he's not.

[Todd McShay]

He's not built like that. That's true.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm talking the transcendent guys, you know, so I'm taking the edge. Even though. Yeah, I'm taking the edge there, but I don't know which. I honestly don't know which direction they're gonna go.

[Todd McShay]

They have. It's a good problem for them to have.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's a great.

[Todd McShay]

I mean, if you're choosing between Delane Bane Jr. And Carnell Tate, the B, the board has fallen your way.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Sounds like Tater. No, it sounds like Tater Tyson could be the. Could be the pick there, though.

[Todd McShay]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But, yeah,

[Todd McShay]

you're taking Tate over Tyson, though, right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I. Yeah, I am, personally. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Kansas City's nine. I'm hearing this. Edge. Bane if available, or wide receiver. Tyson if available.

[Todd McShay]

No offensive tackle.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But Andy's saying we got to get that. We got to address that. So maybe they feel like they can

[Todd McShay]

move up a little bit in the. At the end of the first round. I don't know.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That would be my guess. Okay. Is that we then make a move to go up. If you're Kansas City that's how. So who do we give? Who do we give to New Orleans?

[Todd McShay]

We didn't.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Tyson. I think. I think Tyson would wind up maybe being the pick.

[Todd McShay]

Okay, Mark comes out tomorrow. Let's see how many changes there are.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Kansas City. Bain. My intel is Bane, if he's here, or wide receiver. So we're going to give him Bane.

[Todd McShay]

I would.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I would. I'd take Bane too.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah. I mean, I think that is as easy a pick as you can make.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So Tyson goes eight, Bane goes nine. So now you're the Giants. And we talked about this before. Tyson's gone. Downs is gone to seven. Washington. I've heard Yoana.

[Todd McShay]

That makes sense to me.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Me too.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah. Makes sense to me more than Maui Noah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And Maui Noah's gone six. Anyway, it makes more sense than Fano. Yeah. Yeah, it actually does.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah. For what Harbaugh does. That mentality. And they need a guard more than a tackle, I believe.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's funny, like I said in the top of this thing, why don't you just go back to the combine, Todd, when you were having real conversations with people and just looking at the. This board and you'd watch the tape and then you go back and you watch more tape and it only confirms that Love and Reese and Styles and Caleb Downs and Bailey are the best football players in this class. And there's a second tier and it's Carnell Tate and it's Monsour Delaine and it's Mansour Delan, and it's Jordan Tyson, Spencer Fano. It's Reuben Bane and it's Venga Yan. And quite honestly, Yan is right in the fringe of that first tier and the second tier.

[Todd McShay]

For me, the only knock on him is he's not as athletic as, you know, some of the elite prospects. But watch the tape, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, he's damn good. All right. Eleven. Eleven's Miami. Honest to God, it's.

[Todd McShay]

Who's literally the best player available?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What's our board? Yep. Him. Is there an offensive lineman or defensive line? Can we keep it on the fronts? Same grade. Okay, let's take the. Let's take the offensive line.

[Todd McShay]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right. Yep. Turn it in. Yep. Thanks. That's John Eric Sullivan. Yeah, that's my impersonation of. Of John Eric. Solid. Why?

[Todd McShay]

Because they need everything.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They need everything. And. And they are setting themselves up rightfully so. And I'm pulling for the guy and I'm pulling for Jeff Halfley and I. I think they're really good at what they do, respectively. But they got Their hands full. Unlike many other situations I've ever seen in this league, we're from a roster standpoint, but you know how quickly you can turn this thing around when you start hitting like that. Yeah. The Dallas Cowboys with the Aikman and the Emmett and the. Yep. Like that. They were a disaster. And then bang. So you can do the same thing in this day and age of football.

[Todd McShay]

They got 11 picks.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They got 11 picks and they've got four in the third, one in the second. So the seven of those 11 are in the first three rounds. First hundred players in this draft pick wisely and pick the best, you know? Yeah. So who's the best on our board?

[Todd McShay]

Delane.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So. So you take Delane. Yeah. Truly, that's who we would take, right?

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Because Love's gone. Reese is gone. Styles is gone. Obviously. Mendoza's gone. Caleb Downs is gone. Bailey was gone at 2. Carnell Tate was just gone a couple picks earlier to do. We give tape to anyone?

[Todd McShay]

Oh, do we not?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We didn't. This went Mendoza, Bailey, Reese. Mendoza, Bailey. Reese Styles to Tennessee Giants was Jeremiah Love. Yep. Maui Noah went six. Downs went seven. Tyson went eight. Bane went nine. Yep. And Yoana went ten.

[Todd McShay]

So card I'll take.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, take them. Yeah.

[Todd McShay]

I mean, they have a knee there.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Absolutely. But you could. You could argue Delane. Yeah. And Maui Noah is still on the board, right? No, Maui knows six. So Fano is still on the board.

[Todd McShay]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I could see them going Fano.

[Todd McShay]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Just FYI. Okay, so let's do two more picks. 12. That was 12, right?

[Todd McShay]

No, that was 11.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, 11. So what do we. So right now, left on the board at 12 for Dallas is Mansour Delane. Turn it in. It's over. Yeah.

[Todd McShay]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There's nobody else. No. They don't need Fano. They don't. And Bane is gone.

[Todd McShay]

Bane's gone too, right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. So. So that's Monsoon Delane. Thirteen is the. We're sitting there with the Rams.

[Todd McShay]

This is where it gets interesting.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think Les Snead is a wild card on Thursday night match five stars.

[Todd McShay]

Thanks, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But before we run out of here and I give mentioned 5 stars again, we got a huge week this week. The top 100 is out tonight. Go look for it on theringer.com mcshay that's the board that everyone's gonna count. Board that we do pretty well. I don't jinx it this close to the draft. We do pretty well. We've hung in there. We fight a good fight every year. Tomorrow, Wednesday, if You're if you're watching this, consuming this on Netflix or Spotify or, or listening on Apple or wherever else you get your podcasts. Tomorrow is the final mock draft 5.0. We will do a show on it. We'll break it down. I'm not saying up too late tonight. I'm feeling good about things, says me. Every single year. I'm up until 3 in the morning. Good news is we're on the west coast so no one's up at 3 in the morning. So this will be, this will be a 10, 11 o' clock night. Then we got to write it up so that the mock draft is Wednesday. Thursday, we're here and this is the most important part. We are pumped and we're just a couple pups trying to make our way in this live event space that is is exploding for the NFL draft. Come join us on Netflix. We would love to have you. We're going to give you more information tomorrow on a way to chat with us the entire time. We can't wait to hear from some of our favorite chat folks over the over the long weekend. And most importantly, come hang with us for the draft, please. I'm not begging, but like we're going to have a lot of fun. We're on Netflix live one hour before this whole thing kicks off on Thursday night, the entire first round. It starts at 8:00pm Eastern Time. We're there at 700pm we got an hour full show of everything we're hearing, prepping. We got all sorts of breakdowns to share with you throughout the night. We got video to accompany accompany it. We've got awesome graphics these folks have been working on. This is the first time ever, folks, the NFL draft is live on Netflix and you get to watch it with us. We're pumped. Same thing on Friday night rounds two and three an hour before we're going to be there. So that 7pm is when it starts. We'll be there at 6pm Come join us. We're going to have a lot of fun. Men is fired up. He's got new can't wait. This week we're on Netflix, man. Yeah, we'll be there and we're excited about it. Five stars, brother.

[Todd McShay]

Thanks, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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