Podcast Summary: The Quarterback Deep Dive on The McShay Show

Release Date: March 26, 2025

Hosts:

• Todd McShay: NFL Draft and College Football Analyst
• Mel Kiper Jr.: Renowned NFL Draft Analyst

Introduction

In this episode of The McShay Show, Todd McShay and Mel Kiper Jr. engage in an in-depth discussion centered around the upcoming NFL Draft, specifically focusing on quarterback evaluations. The conversation delves into the intricacies of quarterback tiers, key traits, comparable players (comps), and detailed tape studies. Additionally, they explore the implications of the New York Giants signing Russell Wilson and ponder whether the Giants still have the capacity to draft a quarterback post-signing.

Current NFL Landscape and Recent Moves

Todd McShay opens the show by commenting on the recent signing of Russell Wilson by the New York Giants, highlighting its significance and timing:

"The New York Giants now have two very, very experienced quarterbacks. [...] when you get them in that position, that's a position where you have..." [00:00]

He also references the Cleveland Browns' interest in Cam Ward and the strategic maneuvers surrounding his potential drafting.

Mel Kiper Jr. adds context by discussing the competitive nature of drafting quarterbacks and the possible smoke-screen tactics employed by teams to inflate player values:

"Is that a smoke screen? [...] It's that time of year, right." [04:44]

The Quarterback Class Analysis

Tier 1: Elite Prospects

Both analysts agree that the current quarterback class lacks true Tier 1 elite prospects who are immediate day-one starters with Pro Bowl potential.

Todd McShay emphasizes the absence of standout Tier 1 quarterbacks:

"Tier one elite prospects should be day one starters. Project as future all pro caliber players. Got none of them in this class." [46:58]

Tier 2: High Potential

Cam Ward is identified as the leading candidate in Tier 2, with exceptional traits that could translate into a successful NFL career if developed properly.

Mel Kiper Jr. supports Ward's positioning:

"I think you still go and look. I mean, they're going to have to give up, I think a lot to go get him." [06:09]

Todd McShay elaborates on Ward's strengths and the reasons behind his high ranking:

"Cam Ward has a damn good quarterback. [...] Cam Ward is a culture-changing type of leader with an elite release, quickness, very strong arm, good overall accuracy as a passer." [07:53]

Tier 3: Immediate Contributors

Shador Sanders and Jackson Dart are discussed as Tier 3 quarterbacks who can develop into starters but may require time to adjust to the NFL's pace and pressure.

Todd McShay provides a critical analysis of Shador Sanders:

"Shador's instincts and awareness in the pocket borderline suck. He's gonna get himself killed." [54:49]

Conversely, Jackson Dart is praised for his ability to perform under pressure, drawing comparisons to elite quarterbacks like Josh Allen:

"He has the clearest picture of all the quarterbacks pre-snap of what's going on. He's like the kid who gets the answers to the test. [...] he's the first overall pick in this class." [56:07]

Tier 4-6: Developmental and Future Prospects

Players like Tyler Schuck and Quinn Ewers are categorized in the lower tiers, recognized for their potential but hindered by factors such as durability concerns and underdevelopment.

Todd McShay discusses Schuck's readiness:

"I don't worry about any of that shit with Tyler Schuckman. [...] He's got the best arm, if not, if tied." [91:03]

Implications of Giants Signing Russell Wilson

The Giants' acquisition of Russell Wilson is a pivotal topic, exploring how it affects their draft strategy:

Todd McShay posits that with Wilson on the roster, the Giants might deprioritize drafting a quarterback, allowing them to address other critical positions without desperation:

"They don't have to make a desperate pick at the top of the draft, right?" [36:50]

Mel Kiper Jr. concurs, highlighting the strategic advantage this move provides:

"They don't have to make a desperate position. That's the most important thing that comes out of this." [37:20]

The duo debates whether the Giants can still draft a quarterback effectively, given Wilson's presence and the existing roster depth:

"I think some teams maybe there's only one quarterback in this draft that I believe is ready to start in week one next season." [26:09]

Player Evaluations and Traits

Cam Ward

Todd McShay praises Ward's quick decision-making and accurate throwing mechanics under pressure, despite occasional inconsistencies:

"He can create magic, is accurate from a variety of arm angles, and has an aggressive yet controlled approach." [56:43]

Shador Sanders

Shador is critiqued for his handling of pressure and decision-making, which raises concerns about his readiness for the NFL:

"He holds on to the ball too long and makes unnecessary decisions that could jeopardize his career." [58:43]

Jackson Dart

Jackson Dart is lauded for his performance under pressure and strong passing accuracy, positioning him as a top-tier draft prospect:

"His processing under pressure is remarkable, akin to Josh Allen's, making him a formidable first overall pick." [56:07]

Tyler Schuck

Tyler Schuck is recognized for his physical attributes and arm strength, making him a valuable second-round pick:

"He's 6'5", 219 pounds, with a strong arm and the physicality needed to excel in the NFL." [89:00]

Will Howard

Will Howard is introduced as the new "poster boy" for quarterback prospects, noted for his intelligence and game management:

"He has the clearest picture of any quarterback in this class and is prepared to contribute immediately as a backup." [106:07]

Strategic Recommendations

Todd McShay offers strategic advice to the New York Giants and other teams regarding quarterback selection:

1. Prioritize Best Available Talent: Instead of playing it safe, teams should consider drafting the best quarterback available, whether it's Cam Ward or another top-tier prospect.

2. Aggressive Trade Moves: Teams should leverage their draft positions to secure elite quarterbacks, even if it means trading up in the draft.

3. Development Over Immediate Impact: Emphasize long-term potential and personality traits that indicate leadership and resilience, ensuring quarterbacks can handle the pressures of the NFL.

Mel Kiper Jr. echoes the importance of these strategies, emphasizing the need for teams to remain proactive rather than reactive in their draft approaches.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with both hosts reaffirming their commitment to providing insightful and analytical discussions on NFL drafting strategies. They stress the importance of evaluating quarterbacks beyond just raw talent, considering factors like mental toughness, adaptability, and the ability to perform under pressure.

Todd McShay encourages listeners to subscribe to The McShay Report for more detailed mock drafts and draft analyses:

"Google the McShay Report and you can get more in detail stuff there on all these quarterbacks." [89:50]

Mel Kiper Jr. emphasizes the collaborative effort behind the podcast, thanking the audience for their support and engagement.

Notable Quotes:

• Todd McShay [00:00]:

  "The New York Giants now have two very, very experienced quarterbacks."

• Mel Kiper Jr. [04:44]:

  "I hope people get that reference."

• Todd McShay [54:49]:

  "Shador's instincts and awareness in the pocket borderline suck. He's gonna get himself killed."

• Mel Kiper Jr. [26:09]:

  "A lot of teams in the league have come to believe that they're taking Cam Ward with the number one overall pick."

• Todd McShay [56:07]:

  "Jackson Dart has a sizable advantage over everyone except Howard and McCord."

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions from the episode, offering listeners a clear understanding of the quarterback landscape as the NFL Draft approaches. Whether you're a casual fan or a dedicated follower of draft strategies, this analysis provides valuable insights into the potential decisions and their ramifications for NFL teams.