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Todd McShay
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Steve Mensch
Attaboy.
Todd McShay
Oh, and the McShay report. Google it. You can get it. And we've got some exciting things coming up. By the way, I was told by Dan, Dan Comer, who's our, our main man who handles all this stuff. And I don't know how he keeps up with all my madness. Sprint to the podium. That's what we're calling it. $1 for all on $1. Uno. Uno for all my draft content until May 31st. This is a new deal, folks. Winners and losers on Sunday, we're gonna do exclusive mailbags for premium subscribers. We're gonna, you know, review the draft. We're doing another premium mailbag for all 32 teams to break it up into divisions. AFC one day, NFC the next. In the next couple days, we have all the draft buzz next week, top 300. We get all sorts of amazing stuff. Okay. All for $1 through May 31st. So if you haven't subscribed yet to the McShay Report, please Google it. Subscribe. Kick in the one buck you got. You got all my content until May. May 31st. Okay, here we go. The two minute drill. Men, today is. We're, we're calling it the power hour. I've always kind, I always kind of thrived in the two minute drill.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, you love this. Not my thing.
Todd McShay
I'm, I know. I'm a thinker. You're a thinker. And, and, and God bless you. That's why we compliment one another. Well, okay, here's the drill today. I, I view like 2 minute drill to me is like, all right, we could tempo this thing. I don't have coach in my ear. I can kind of make decisions on the fly. I like the pressure of it. Idle times, the devil's workshop with me. Okay. I, I just need to. I turn off my brain and just react. So this is what we're gonna do today. Here's the premise. Okay. We just. I just finished up my team needs. Okay. You're gonna see it throughout this show on, on the screen if you're watching on YouTube or, or Spotify. And we will walk through them all. 32 if you're listening on a podcast. We appreciate all of that and I won't thank you again. But what I was trying to think, right, like no one wants to go through. Okay. In the AFC north, the Baltimore Ravens have a needed guard and edge and interior defensive lineman. You know, like it's just a boring show. So I said we're not going to do a mock draft necessarily, but we are going to go through and we're going to start at Tennessee and it's going to be mention on the clock all 32 teams in 64 minutes. And it's non negotiable. It's not McShay time. And anyone who's been listening to this show understands. I say we'll do an hour. It's an hour and 40. It can't be today. They've got buttons. Tucker's back there and he's going to keep us on it. He's going to press a button. The pick is in onto the next, next play. I love it. So we are held accountable. You will handle all the odd teams in terms of the draft order. I will handle all the even teams in terms of the draft order and we will go through. Every single pick in the first three rounds will do it by team. I have already gone through and we will reflect it with these certain teams. The only thing I did in preparation for this is I made two trades and I assigned quarterbacks to the top four quarterbacks on my board to teams that I think there's a good the likeliest chance that they wind up there. Okay. The only quarterback that is considered potential late first round because he got invited and accepted the invitation to the NFL draft in Green Bay is Jaylen Milro. We. I have not assigned him a spot that'll be fun to handle. Okay.
Steve Mensch
Okay.
Todd McShay
Mind mention. I'm forewarning you when we get to teams like and we can't make A trade might not go in round one. Maybe he goes to the Rams at 26. Who knows? Maybe. Maybe Shador is gone and at 21, the Pittsburgh Steelers. So we will, we will handle that as we go. I am promising you we will do our best to not pick a player twice. We will mention a lot of names as we go through. Here's the whole thing. If you get nothing else from this entire intro as we get ready to kick off the two minute drill and the power out. If you get nothing from anything, I'm saying it's that I really want, if you're a fan of a team, to, for you to get a sense of what it could look like. We're going to assign names to picks. Okay. It may not be the perfect match, it may not happen, but at least you'll understand. And as, as we talk through it and mentioned a couple names and we decide on one, at least you'll understand that this is kind of the range and how things could look at the end of three rounds. Okay, the pre ramble is over. Tennessee is on the clock. Steve mensch, you have two minutes. They have two picks. By my account, they pick at 1 overall and 35. Those are their only two picks on the first two days of the draft.
Steve Mensch
One's a done deal, right? Cam Ward, Miami quarterback. Yeah, that's done. I mean, they get their franchise quarterback. We're all set. You get to that first, you get to the 35th pick. And I was kind of torn. If you're telling me one of those edges is going to be there. And I mean, Tennessee's James Pierce.
Todd McShay
Yeah.
Steve Mensch
Or Boston College. Is Donovan as Aruku. I feel really good about those two picks. I think after that there's a little bit of a fall off and I might not like the value as much. So first of all, I think they want to get one of those edges. But if he's not there, keep the name Iowa State wide receiver Jaden Higgins in mind. I think they need a number two wide receiver for Calvin Ridley. I think he comes in right away and you give Cam Ord a weapon on the outside.
Todd McShay
So you're going to go with Higgins there. Okay.
Steve Mensch
Unless you are.
Todd McShay
Are you. Are you?
Steve Mensch
You're Realistically, we don't think those edges are going to be there, do we?
Todd McShay
I think there is a possibility that.
Steve Mensch
One of the two falls, that's my preference.
Todd McShay
And I, and, and I have Pierce at 32 in my most recent rankings because of some of the, the external stuff I have as a Rock who at 33. Because as I've said all along, I think he's right there on the fringe. I. I love the player. The traits don't match up, and I think it might take him a minute to adjust. So let's, let's. Let's put in some guidelines real quick based off these rankings, which you're working off of. But you can make the decision on anyone you want to go. You're. It's just a guideline. I think we try to not pick ahead of the top 32 players on my board. So that means that as a raku would be available if you want to take him in that spot. But I probably at this point would feel a little bit better about Higgins a wide receiver, but your choice. Dealer's choice.
Steve Mensch
Let's go, Higgins. Let's feel good about it. Let's get off on the right foot.
Todd McShay
Okay. I love it. So official, the pick is in. So I'm gonna go to my board, but we gotta keep up with this. And I'm already running out of time, so typical me, Jaden Higgins is off the board. Cam Ward is off the board. So now I am picking at number two, Cleveland Browns. I'm going with what the rumors are because. Not because of the rumors, but because I believe it's the right thing to do. I think Travis Hunter is the most unique special player in this entire draft. So I'm taking Travis Hunter at number two. Okay. I told you, I already plugged in some quarterbacks in their spots. I'm going with Tyler Schuck, the Louisville quarterback who's getting a little bit of late buzz, if you haven't noticed.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
Flying around a lot. A lot of teams. There's a report, Diana Rossini's reporting. There's a couple teams out there that one team, I think one offensive coach in the league thinks he's the best passer in this class. Whatever the report was, we've explained to you our. Our love for Tyler Schuck around the value you could get him and what we think the upside could be. That would be an awesome haul. They wouldn't have to move. That would give Cleveland, Travis Hunter, dynamic playmaker on offense and a guy that they will play on defense in certain situations. That would give them a quarterback to develop with. With Joe Flacco there. And now you have. Now you're looking at pick 67 and 94. I'm looking at the needs for Cleveland. Okay? Cleveland, they got their quarterback, they got their wide receiver. I need a left tackle. I need a corner. I Need an edge. You're smiling because you think I'm gonna run up 67. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with a. There's no offensive tackle, so I'm gonna go with edge. Oh, no. I'm looking at the wrong board. Oh, I'm gonna go. Josh Connerly. He fell beautiful. No, I don't. That's too late. What am I talking about? 67.
Steve Mensch
This is tough.
Todd McShay
Anthony Belton, offensive tackle, NC State. And I'm like the Minnesota. I'm like the Minnesota Vikings. All right. I need an edge or edge or a cornerback. And I'm picking at 94. I'm going to go with Josiah. Josiah Stewart, Michigan. Sorry.
Steve Mensch
I love that pick. Love that pick. They should be happy if they get that guy. All right, you said no trades, but we do have some trades, right?
Todd McShay
Yes. I'll reflect it for you. You have the picket at number three.
Steve Mensch
Correct.
Todd McShay
Make that. Make that now.
Steve Mensch
Make it. I'm making. My number three pick will be Abdul Carter for Penn State. Let's not overthink it. He's one of the three best players, four best players in the draft. I think he's honestly the best player in the draft. So we're gonna. We're gonna snatch him up right away. We're running to the podium to get him. I don't care about the fact that we already have two good pass rushers.
Todd McShay
All right. I indicated. Indicated this in my Mach 3.0. I think the Giants are eager to trade back into the first round. I have them trading with the Atlanta Falcons, a team that only has five picks. So the New York Giants then pick it 15. They take Shador Sanders. So they get Abdul Carter and Shador Sanders, who they just went out to Boulder to. To work out.
Steve Mensch
And.
Todd McShay
And they. And they now only have mentioned the 99th pick remaining on day two of the draft.
Steve Mensch
And we are taking. Give me a Georgia card, baby. I wanted to be Tate Ratlich. I hope he's there. I think he's the better of the two, but if I end up with Dylan Fairchild, I'm happy. You got to shore up the middle of that offensive line. Either one of those guys I think can come in and start for you on day one and are going to be long term starters.
Todd McShay
So you went with who?
Steve Mensch
Give me Tate Radic. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be greedy and say he falls to us.
Todd McShay
Tate Ratledge. What number is he here on my board? This is really good and exciting.
Steve Mensch
Where do you have. I got to know where he's on the board.
Todd McShay
Now. I'm going to give you Dylan Fair. I don't think Tate. Where is Tate?
Steve Mensch
Routledge, 82.
Todd McShay
Oh, thank you. All right, thank you. There we go.
Steve Mensch
I just saw him, Just found him.
Todd McShay
Yeah, exactly like you knew. All right, beautiful. So. So the, The Giants would end up with their. With their star edge rusher. They do the right thing. They get the. One of the premier players, Shador Sanders, quarterback. They move up and get him. They. They give away a third and next year. Second is what we discussed in that move in mock 3.0. And then at 99, they get an. They continue to bolster that offensive line. So.
Steve Mensch
I think Tucker's having fun. I think he's enjoying this, man.
Todd McShay
Yeah, he's been trying to shut me up for six months. Moving along, boys. Six months he's been trying to shut me up. All right, New England Patriots. Excuse me. They have, they have four picks. This is going to be an event. New England Patriots at 4. Man, there's just this little tinge of Ashton Jinty in the air here in Massachusetts. I'm just telling you. There's like a little. But I'm going with Will Campbell, the offensive tackle from LSU. Until I hear something different. Okay, then. At 38, this. The Patriots are back on the board. New England has got their left tackle. They need a wide receiver. We all know that. And then they need defensive line at 38. 38. You already. I'm going to take Luther Burden, wide receiver from Missouri. At that point, I feel pretty.
Steve Mensch
We can't draft the same player at any point, right?
Todd McShay
Correct. So Jaden Higgins.
Steve Mensch
I'm just going to be hard to.
Todd McShay
Juggle and, and, and understand this, that, that, that that's what they want. They want a big X. They've talked about that. Then I'm at s pick 69. So we've got a wide receiver, we've got our offensive tackle. I need defensive lineman. I'm going to go into that range. I'm going to go with Jordan Birch, Edge from Oregon, played some five. I like him outside. What's that at 38? No, no, it's 69.
Steve Mensch
Oh, he's not going to be there.
Todd McShay
Okay. And then it. And then at 77. At 77, I'm going to take Joshua Farmer from Florida State.
Steve Mensch
Good pick, Bar.
Todd McShay
More with the blood clots. I know you brought in Milton Williams, but let's, let's make sure we shore up that defensive front. And we took two offensive players to start. So for the Patriots, they wind up getting Their offensive tackle, they get a difference maker catching the ball. He's not the ex receiver that variable wants, but Luther Burden comes with, you know, his couple of his issues. But he's. He's a damn good football player. I love this. I wonder if there's one time in the 16 times I do this that I don't get cut off. Go. Who's up?
Steve Mensch
Jacksonville.
Todd McShay
Yep.
Steve Mensch
And they're taking Jade. Psych. They're taking Mason Graham. We're not overthinking it, McShay. Yeah. They stink on past events. They also stink on run defense. They've gotta solidify the middle of that defensive line. In my mind, you bring in Mason Graham, I think he's the best available player. I think he feels a need. Let's not overthink it. You get to the pick 36. I'm taking the corner out of Ole Miss, Trey Amos. I think he's a good fit for what they want to do. I think he's a good value at that point. I listen, I got to this this pick and I'm looking at your board and I'm looking at your rankings and ours are a little bit different. But you know, the fact that you have this guy where you have him. I was surprised to see Trey Harris as lady as he was. And I love the idea of getting the wide receiver from Ole Miss, Trey Harris, and putting him opposite of Brian Thomas. I think that would be a great pick for them. So I'm going to go Trey Harris. Xavier Watts. Really tempting at that point, I'll say that. But I'm going to take Trey Harris there and then I'm going to get another receiving option. I'm going to get Gunner Helm, the Texas tight end at pick 88.
Todd McShay
Gunner Helm. Love that. That's a great pick. That's a great pick. All right, so now we trusted. Yeah. I guess we're onto the Las Vegas Raiders. Go ahead, Tucker. Go. Golden Child. Mensch. Always finishing on time.
Steve Mensch
I'm gonna have no idea where when. These guys are all gone, though. Just trying to juggle that. Who's not on the board anyway?
Todd McShay
Get out of my space. Vegas. They've got three picks. Six, 37 and. And 68. Okay. At six. We're going with with chalk here. Ashton Genti. Okay. Difference maker. Put him in the backfield. Geno. We're trying to win now. We didn't bring in a spring chicken and head coach. We're not. We're not looking for five years down the road. Then it gets interesting. Vegas, we'll look at their needs, right. Vegas has a need at wide receiver and cornerback in addition to that running back spot. And don't be like Will Howard would be interesting with that third pick. I, I'm starting to get the sense that's going to be a Saturday pick if, if that occurs. So I'm going to go with wide receiver here. Picking at 37 overall. Couple wide receivers have come off the board already. I don't love that. I think it's too early.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, it's tough. This, this is where it gets tough.
Todd McShay
I like it though. I like tough. Tough is good.
Steve Mensch
The wide receivers, this is showing you that there's going to be a big market for him at that point, right?
Todd McShay
Yep. Vegas, they're a man team. I'm going to. You know what? I'm going to throw out the 40 yard dash time. I just love them on tape. Az Thomas, cornerback from Florida State. I'm going to go. I think cornerback could be the spot that they have to go there because the wide receiver position is not available. The guys that you want based off what we're doing at least. But I would love Higgins there too. And then with that final pick for Vegas at 68, looking at a wide receiver, I'm going to go Jack Besh, really consistent physical slot receiver. I think that would be a nice. And a guy who's ready to play right away from Geno Smith.
Steve Mensch
Like it. That's good.
Todd McShay
You.
Steve Mensch
That counts. You made it.
Todd McShay
I did.
Steve Mensch
The jets are on the board, man. I'm not overthinking it. I'm taking the right tackle from Missouri, Armand Menu. Let's solidify the offensive line. You know, the tight ends are tempting there. They really are. But we're going to take care of that right now. We're to get Elijah Aroyo out of. Out of Miami with that 42nd pick, the 10th pick in the second round. He's. We're going to land Elijah Royo because someone's going to take Mason Taylor ahead of him. I, by the way, when I originally went through this, this is what's interesting. I wanted Luther Burden there. I thought Luther Burden would be a good fit. And then I could get Terence Ferguson later on the Oregon tight end. I kind of like that bundle. Now I'm scrambling. So now I got to look for wide receiver.
Todd McShay
Welcome to my word. Because I, I said don't prep for this. Don't prep for this is what I said. And that's why I'm running late. And you're, you're the, you know, you're the teacher's pet, and Tucker loves you because you finish on time. All right, so we're buying your time. Go ahead.
Steve Mensch
I don't love this one as much. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta help each other out a little bit here. I'm gonna take. I love Aoyo, by the way. I think that's a steal where they get him and he comes in, you get your tight end right away. I'm gonna take Savon Williams, the tight end, the wide receiver from tcu. I think this is a little early for them, but he, the potential, the upside is there for him to be an absolute weapon. You get him, you got opposite Garrett Wilson. I just think I don't hate that pick there. I would rather the Burden Ferguson bundle, but I'll take the Arroyo Williams, Tucker.
Todd McShay
You're telling me he came in under two minutes there.
Steve Mensch
I've got a real feel for it.
Todd McShay
Carolina Panthers on the clock. Number eight. It's interesting, but I'm not going to go. Yeah. Edge. Jalen Walker. Let's not mess around. They need an edge. They get an edge. That past defense was atrocious, last in the league, I believe, last year. So Carolina, they get their edge. They need safety, receiver, corner, or three of the spots, and interior defensive lineman. They've got two more picks, 57 and 74. I think I had that wrong. On the list. I sent. All right, 57 and I said they need safety, a wide receiver, corner. 57. I'm trying to pick a player that's going to be in that range. You got wide receiver, Jalen Noel from Iowa State. It's Kevin Winston. I feel like, oh, that would be a good player for them. 57. I'm gonna go, I'll go. No, I'm gonna go wide receiver. I'm gonna go. Jay, I'll go Jaylen Noel there. Okay. And then I come back. Yeah, I mean, I love him. He's yeah, 43 9, so best route runner and maybe arguably in this class. But then I'm at 74 overall and I still need a safety or a cornerback, so I need a defensive back at pick 74. I'm gonna. Let's see. Caroline. I'm gonna go with Darien Porter. Former wide receiver Tariq Woolen. Types 6 3, 195 pounds, runs a 4 3. I'm gonna bet on his upside. I, I, I like that pick. I'm gonna go Darien Porter there. So.
Steve Mensch
Man, I'm, I'm struggling with what they do here Saints, because the Saints could do they take A corner here. Do you go Will Johnson. Hell, I know the workout numbers scare me. It just feels early. Right. So quarterbacks their number one need.
Todd McShay
We're.
Steve Mensch
We should. We'll. We're going to address quarterback. I don't know if we're going to do it at nine so we'll talk about that in a second. Then you get to edge. I love Mikel Williams from Georgia here. I think that's ultimately the pick. The guy that's sneaky. I think to keep in mind, remember this team was 31st in the league in in yards allowed per rush and they went out and they got Devon God Shaw. They traded for Devon God Shaw from the Patriots and I think that helps. I think Walter Nolan is just lurking in the shadows as a guy that they could bring in and really help their run defense and really make a difference maker on that defensive line. That's what they need. I'm going to go with Mikel Williams. That's going to be my pick there. And then in the second we're with the second pick. We're going to make a trade here. M. You want to announce the trade?
Todd McShay
Yes. For the second pick. The. The New Orleans Saints traded up from 40 to 24.
Steve Mensch
They.
Todd McShay
To give away their third round pick. They had two third round picks. So now New Orleans is picking at 9, 24 and 93. They got Jackson Dart at 24. They move up with Minnesota. Minnesota moves back and they. They recover, recoup a third round pick. They don't. Minnesota does not have. They only have four picks. The fewest amount of picks, number of picks of any organization in the NFL heading into the draft.
Steve Mensch
Yeah. So the pick is.
Todd McShay
Do we Jackson dart.
Steve Mensch
Jackson dart. We get that quarterback. I think that's. I mean it's a great move if they can get him at that point in the draft. I think this is an absolute home run for them. We'll move on quickly because I don't want to run out of time here. They need a corner in the worst way. So I don't think when you get to 93 and if the draft falls this way for them, they've got to address the corner position. Quincy Riley out of Louisville. I think he could be a good match for what they do. I think he's a good value at that point. I think he could come in and play right away. He may never be a number one corner, but I think he can help you out as a rookie. Foreign.
Todd McShay
Chicago Bears. We got a lot of picks here. Wish me luck.
Steve Mensch
Go, go, go. Tyler.
Todd McShay
Tyler Warren is not off the board. Let me make this perfectly clear. If you're a Bears fan and you're watching this, if Tyler Warren's there, you're thrilled. I. If he's not, I still think it's tight end here. I think they're going to draft Colston. Love. It's probably the more likely because I think Tyler Warren goes seven to the jets, but we'll have to see.
Steve Mensch
Oh, really?
Todd McShay
This is a tight end here. Okay. This is a tight end pick at this spot at number 10 for Chicago. So I'm looking at Chicago's needs and that's not really. That's. I've got admit the fourth one and that's a kind of a little bit of a luxury, but my goodness, that would be a great pair. Now we're looking at running back, left tackle, edge. We've got three more picks for Chicago. 41, 39 and 41. Okay, so at 39 tackle edge 39. We already took Conner Lee, right. So y. I'm taking my boy Ursary. Ariante Ursary, offensive tackle from Minnesota. Told you. I think this guy, when we look back, one of the top three tackles from this year's class. So you got the offensive tackle there. That's. And he's a left tackle. That's what they need. Okay, then I need changes to the next pick. Go ahead, run running back and Edge. Their next pick is 41. I'm taking Travion Henderson.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, I don't know.
Todd McShay
I would have taken him at 39. So call Travion Henderson. 39. Ariante Ursuli. 41. Okay, the are the picks. Tucker and Eduardo when we do our clips. Feeling great about this. Like Ryan Poles is loving it. And now I've got. I'm looking at edge or wide receiver with that final pick for Chicago in the first two days and that is a pick 72. I'm going to go with oo. I'm sorry. Olu Femi Oliver Oladejo. Stop cutting me off. The Bears just cleaned up. Tyler Warren, Trayvon Henderson, arate Ursary. We the 40 ODO.
Steve Mensch
The 49ers organization was really comfortable with the idea that we could target Ursary in. In the second round. And. And we're now getting information that's no longer possible. So here's what I was thinking. I was thinking Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan. That's what I was going to go with this pick. If it fell that way. I don't think things have changed. What's that?
Todd McShay
I don't think they're going to do that anyway. So this will be a more accurate reflection.
Steve Mensch
You will see this as a little bit of a reach. I don't see it that way. I'm going Kelvin Banks, the, the offensive tackle from Texas.
Todd McShay
I think that's. I think that's very much in play for San Fran.
Steve Mensch
So now do, I mean, do we target a quarter a corner at 43? I know who I'm already getting with with 100. It's one of your guys. It's one of your guys that you like. The corner at 43. I mean, we're looking at Trey Amos off the board. Az Thomas off the board. Oh, you know who's not though? Stavone Rebel, my guy, Savone. I could see them taking Savone Rebel in the second round there now. I'd also thought that they. I know they could use an edge here. I had Ola, Dejo or Birch off the board. So now we're at 75. I'm looking for what else. What are my other options there? Savon Jones, lsu like it? Yeah, we'll take him. We'll get him there. And then for the last pick, I'm going to address that inside linebacker position.
Todd McShay
How many picks? South Carolina compensatory, 100th pick overall.
Steve Mensch
Yeah. South Carolina's Demetrius Knight comes off the board there.
Todd McShay
I like that mensch.
Steve Mensch
We had to adjust.
Todd McShay
Yeah. Two minute drill. We're on the fly here. I love it. So you wound up with an offensive left tackle and Kelvin Banks.
Steve Mensch
Yep.
Todd McShay
You finished with Demetrius Knight, the linebacker. Who were your two picks in the middle again?
Steve Mensch
Savone Rebel was the corner from East Carolina.
Todd McShay
I love, I like his potential.
Steve Mensch
And then Savion Jones from lsu.
Todd McShay
That's a good draft. That's a good. Can't wait to listen this back and hear how many times I get cut off mid sentence.
Steve Mensch
Tucker.
Todd McShay
Don't get used to this big boy. All right, Dallas is on the clock. 12. They've got three picks. 12, 44 and 76. I wouldn't make this pick. I think they could make this pick. So I'm going to go with it to reflect what I'm. What, what kind of the sense I'm getting, but I don't have any inside information. It. I. It makes sense. In Tet McMillan, 6:4, 219 pounds. Good compliment to CD Lamp. So I'm going to go, even though I have T on my board at 26 overall, I'm going to give him 12 to Dallas. Some teams like him a Lot more than I do. A lot of teams are kind of in my range too. Then at 44, I'm looking at Dallas's needs. Dallas's wide receiver, which we just covered guard edge, basically offensive line edge and interior defense, O line, D line. So at 44, I'm going to take Donovan Jackson. I'm going to take Donovan Jackson there. Hold on, let me consider. Because I'm going to do the combo picks. Dallas then picks at 76. Yep. I'm going to take Donovan Jackson there. Guard out of Ohio State. Elite, elite run blocker and just a good all around football player. Gives you some position flexibility which they love in Dallas. And then finally with that third pick, we're looking at defensive lineman for Dallas. It picks 76 overall. I'm going to go here. I'm gonna go with Omar Norman lot. I actually like that. Fit for him too in that scheme. Third round, Omar Norman lot coming out of Tennessee, little bit, you know, sawed off. Tasmanian Devil, plays his tail off. Instinctive player. Just great motor. Yeah, I like that. That's. That's kind of for Dallas.
Steve Mensch
I don't care. I don't care that you're gonna be mad about it. I don't care that you're gonna tell me it's too soon. I'm not gonna. I don't care that this is. Isn't what's going to happen. Right. I get to make the pick here. This is what I think they should do, right?
Todd McShay
Yeah. But staying within reason because we're trying to serve the F. We're trying to serve everybody here.
Steve Mensch
But.
Todd McShay
But within reason.
Steve Mensch
All right, I'll let you call me out then.
Todd McShay
Josh.
Steve Mensch
Josh Simmons, the guy that I've loved from the jump. Miami desperately needs a tackle with Tron Armstead retiring. Kelvin Banks, I've already taken early too. He's off the board. What are we doing at tackle? Can't wait till the second round because the best second round tackle, Ursari is already off the board. They're in a tough spot here, man. You know, like you could try and trade back. We're not doing trades. I think they got to find an offensive tackle in this draft.
Todd McShay
Team's trying to trade up. Might be for quarterback from round two and if you move back there, you might not get them anyway.
Steve Mensch
So correct. So I mean you wait until the third round. Now it gets really interesting. I mean we're talking if you're going to take an offensive tackle right in that 48 round range. You talk about Marcus Bowe, who might be a Guard.
Todd McShay
Listen, nothing will shock me with these offensive tackles.
Steve Mensch
That's what I'm saying.
Todd McShay
That would be very high, and I don't think it will necessarily reflect, but, like, might not.
Steve Mensch
I don't think it's high. It's not a high based on the tape. It's high on the complete. The total picture. That. That's. That's what I think. Okay, so where I'm gonna go. Simmons there. He's gonna come off the board, I think, in the first round at some point, and I'm gonna. And I'm gonna do it there. So now we're talking about at 48. They need safety or a guard, so, man, I'm good. I'll take Bo there. I'll take Bo and kick him inside the guard there. She's my first two picks on improving that offensive line.
Todd McShay
Jalen Ramsey's gone.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, no, I do.
Todd McShay
Okay.
Steve Mensch
I do. I mean, 48. We're looking at Savone Revel. I've already taken Trey Amos already gone. Az Thomas already gone.
Todd McShay
Okay, so you're right. I just wanted. I wanted. I don't want Dolphins fans to jump in here and be like, bench is crazy. Is he up to date? Is he so deep inside his war room? Go ahead, finish up.
Steve Mensch
You slow me down.
Todd McShay
98.
Steve Mensch
We're gonna get a corner. We're gonna get a corner. It's. Or a safety at 98. We're gonna. I like the safety. We're doing Yonas Sanker. That's what we're gonna take the safety out of Virginia. Yona Sinker.
Todd McShay
All right. I'm trying to find him on this board.
Steve Mensch
He's at 100. I think he's at 104.
Todd McShay
104.
Steve Mensch
I like Y. I'm glad you're keeping track, man, because I have no idea.
Todd McShay
Okay, good. Now, Indianapolis is up that we're thrilled because, honestly, the way things are rolling right now, the Colts really want a tight end and a difference maker. Doesn't matter who's. Who's a quarterback. They need a guy in the middle of the field. There's been a lot of talk that Warren's going 7, and you could see Colson Loveland go 10 to the Bears. But in this mock, Colson Loveland's available. So the Colts take care of that tight end spot at pick 14. Now we're on the second round pick 45, edge offensive tackle, basically edge offensive line and linebacker. Okay, pick 45. The edges. JTT from Ohio State. And there's not, like, Braden Swinson. I Feel like it's a little high. I like him a lot. Nick Scorton. I'm not the biggest Nick Scorton guy. Excuse me. Offensive line has been ravaged. I'm gonna go. I'll go Nick Scorton here because I think that's something that could happen. Okay.
Steve Mensch
Okay.
Todd McShay
Even though I don't rank him as high as. As others. Okay. And then with their third pick at number 80 overall, I need an offensive lineman or a linebacker. I'm gonna go Charles Grant, developmental offensive tackle from William and Mary, our rival.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
Very athletic. Could be a year away, but very athletic. Looking towards the future.
Steve Mensch
Like it.
Todd McShay
All right.
Steve Mensch
I don't love the. The Falcons don't have a first round pick. They got the 34th pick. In our scenario, we're looking for an edge or a corner right now.
Todd McShay
We should say that just to remind people if you're just jumping in or you forgot. Atlanta is. Is now picking at 34 because they traded out. They only had five picks coming into this draft. They just got an additional pick in this year's draft. They traded out with the Giants moving up for Shador Sanders. So they now pick at 34, their original second round pick, which is 46. Then they have. If it's not the first pick in the third round, it's one of it's picks. Yeah. Pick 65, the first pick in the third round. So now they've got capital and they got a second round pick for next year if they were to make a move like this. Go ahead.
Steve Mensch
Actually, though, I'm glad you just bought me a little time there because I was missing a corner. We got Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame.
Todd McShay
I know I tried to give him away, but it was. It was a man. It was a man to man scheme, and so it didn't work.
Steve Mensch
Yeah. And this may not be the perfect fit, but I like the value and I like the player there. Yeah. I'm gonna go Benjamin Morrison.
Todd McShay
Okay.
Steve Mensch
From Notre Dame. I mean, that's the. It's the need they need. The need they need to fill. Then we're gonna have to find an edge. I think we have to find an edge with that second pick, which is the 46th overall. I like Braden Swinson there.
Todd McShay
Okay.
Steve Mensch
The LSU edge, Swenson. And with our. The first pick in the third round, we want to get a player, man, a tight end, a center. You know who I'm gonna go with. And I think that they need a center. I think this guy's underrated. I like Jared Wilson from Georgia. I think he's just, he's a one year starter. He is just scratching the surface of what the what kind of player he's going to be going forward. Great athlete. I think he flashes on tape. I actually like his tape I think than some other people do. I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the second round but I'm seeing everyone saying he's going in the third. Jared Wilson, Georgia offensive center. It's weird how good I am.
Todd McShay
What number? Oh, there he is. 78 overall. Okay, all right. Cute. All cute.
Steve Mensch
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Todd McShay
This episode is brought to you by Walmart. Life gets busy. We could all use an extra hour or save one. With Walmart Express delivery, you can do just that. Simply place your order and in as fast as an hour, it's at your door. Use promo code Express for free delivery on your first order. No hassle, no stress, just more time for what matters most to you. Visit Walmart.com to order now. Promotion valid for First Express delivery. Order $50 minimum, subject to availability restrictions apply. Arizona's up. Pick 16. Arizona has needs a corner linebacker, guard, wide rece, receiver, interior, defensive line. Those are their top five needs. In my opinion. You're picking at what I say. 16 overall. I mean Jade Baron's still there and so is Will. I'm gonna go with Will Johnson here because I think, yeah, this is a scenario that could play out and I like John Day Baron more, but Will Johnson for that scheme I think would be absolutely beautiful. So, and they have their nickel that they that they already drafted in the third or fifth Round. So I am. I'm good there. So we got Will Johnson, outside corner in his own zone. Heavier scheme. Then Arizona with its second pick is at 47. Okay, we got our corner linebacker, guard, wide receiver. These wide receivers are scarce, aren't they? I like doing. And these wide receivers are scarce. And that second round edge group isn't as good as you think. It gets heat. It heats back up in the third. Wide receiver, guard, linebacker. I'm gonna go with the Arizona guy. Big. Big Jonah.
Steve Mensch
Jonah. Love that. I was going to suggest it.
Todd McShay
Yeah, Big Jonah from Arizona.
Steve Mensch
He's home.
Todd McShay
Inside the guard. Yeah, I love that pick. Okay, then we are third. Third pick for Arizona is at third and final pick in the first two days is a pick 78 overall. I've need linebacker, wide receiver, interior defensive line, and I'm going to go here. We have some options here. I like this. Becker. Wide receiver, interior defensive line for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I hear you.
Steve Mensch
The wide receivers are tough, brutal.
Todd McShay
I got rap in the interior defensive line. I'll go with Jay. That's early, though. 7 Now I'm gonna go Jalen Lane, Virginia Tech. I'll explain why I love that guy so much. Maybe it's a little early, but I'm gonna go Jalen Lane there.
Steve Mensch
Good. Go with your guy that hit you twice with it. Tucker's ruthless.
Todd McShay
Just ruthless.
Steve Mensch
So in this situation, the Bengals are sitting there and you can get Mike Green from Marshall or Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M. I'm taking Mike Green simply because he's the higher player on your board. He's the higher player on my board. But this is a home run. I mean, this is a dream scenario that they get to choose between two of those edges. So they. That's who I think they're going to go with with the first pick. That's 17th overall. Now we get into the second round, 49 overall. Go linebacker, safety. It's tough, man. I had it all planned out for my first teams and I'm sweating like you have been. Let's see. I'm gonna go Kevin Winston for Penn State for that second pick.
Todd McShay
Okay.
Steve Mensch
I know it's a little bit early. I really like him and I don't. I think if he plays this year, he's coming off a knee injury. He missed most of the season with the knee injury. His. His tape from last year is awesome. If he doesn't have the knee injury, I think he goes higher. So if we're taking the safety there, we're looking for a linebacker around 81 man. Demetrius Knight already off the board. That might be tough. We might have to go in another directions. A guard, an interior defensive lineman. You already took Norman Lot, right?
Todd McShay
Yes.
Steve Mensch
You suck.
Todd McShay
I know.
Steve Mensch
Ah, we'll go. Dylan Fairchild, the other guard from. From Georgia. Little early, but it feels a need. Not that early. He's at 96.
Todd McShay
All right. This is going to be a wild ride. Okay. Seattle, you know, making their moves. Traded DK. They've got five picks in the top 92. Hang with me.
Steve Mensch
No way.
Todd McShay
Seattle fans hang with me. Pick 18 overall. This is the hardest one to make of all of them. They need guard, wide receiver, interior, defensive line, corner. Listen, Schneides, man, John Schneider. You didn't expect Jade Baron to be here.
Steve Mensch
I. I'm.
Todd McShay
Oh, let me look at what. What's available. I'm taking Ja Baron here. I know it's crazy. I'm taking John Day Baron here because I. I'm seeing this cornerback market and I think teams are preparing for this now. I'm up at 50, kind of the middle of the second round. Okay. And. And I've. I've taken care of corner, which we didn't think we were just now. Any guard, receiver, interior, defensive lineman. Picking at 50. There's no guard still available. That's. This is becoming a trend and a problem. Wide receiver, interior. No wide receivers becoming a problem. Idl. Oh, perfect. Alfred Collins. Alfred Collins, good pick. Defensive tackle, interior defensive lineman from Texas. I don't know that he'll still be available there, but I had to catch a break here then. I still need wide receiver and guard. I'm picking again, 52, two spots later, and I'm going with Ozzy Tropillo, Boston College offensive. I think that would be a perfect fit for them. So you get your offensive tackle there. Still need a wide receiver, guard. There was nothing available, but we got a tackle like. We're doing things here, folks. We're picking at 82. We're now in the third round. 82. I'm looking at wide receiver, maybe a linebacker, maybe an edge. 82. There's still no freaking wide receivers. I'm going to take Tori Horton from Colorado State and some late buzz, too. I like Tori Horton. I told you. I think he's underrated. Better than Jalen Royals and some other guys, in my opinion. And then at 92. 92. We are going to take what's best available. Give me something in this range. We're talking about linebacker, guard. You already.
Steve Mensch
How do you feel about Emory Jones kicking inside?
Todd McShay
Emory Jones Done. Done. Now we got. We've solidified our offensive line moving forward.
Steve Mensch
You crushed that.
Todd McShay
You.
Steve Mensch
You nailed it.
Todd McShay
Dizzy. All right, go. You're up.
Steve Mensch
All right. Tampa Bay 19, inside linebacker Jihad Campbell. If he's. If he's not hurt, I'm talking to our medical people. I'm thinking about it there, but at the same time, in this. In this scenario, Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M is still on the board. I think you got to go. Shamar Stewart here, I think you just. You. That that's the pick you take. Shamar Stewart just makes too much sense to me. That's your second need, arguably. There you go. So now we're going to the 53rd pick overall. Do we have an inside linebacker around that. That time? Do we have a corner that we like? Man, this is interesting.
Todd McShay
What pick is it?
Steve Mensch
52, 53.
Todd McShay
Schlesinger. Is he still on the board?
Steve Mensch
He is, but. He is.
Todd McShay
I've got him right to 62.
Steve Mensch
But.
Todd McShay
But a lot of people think he's going to be a top 50 pick.
Steve Mensch
That would. Yeah, no, I love him. I love him. We're taking sweatshirt. Thanks for helping me out. I appreciate it.
Todd McShay
You're welcome, bud.
Steve Mensch
So now we go to. We go to 84. No, that's great.
Todd McShay
Oh, your guy.
Steve Mensch
I'm gonna pay. Pay you back. Jordan Hancock, we're gonna take the corner out of Ohio State. Kind of a late riser. Had a great year. Jordan Hancock, the corner from Ohio State, goes to Tampa at 84 overall.
Todd McShay
All right. I don't know how stealing my guy from me is. Is helping me out, but Denver picking a 20 back logic. Denver has three picks in the first two days of the draft. They have seven picks overall. They pick at 20, 51, and 85. Their needs. Running back, wide receiver. I've been told by people, Sean Payton believes in what he's doing so much, he'll get some cats later on the weapons, but it is going to be interesting. Okay. They also need linebacker, interior, defensive line, and corner. So we're looking to fill three of those needs ideally and try to be representative of what they will do at pick 20. I'm looking at this board. Matthew golden is still there. Omari and Hampton is still there. Oh, that's a tough one. And there's no one that jumps out. Walter Nolan with the character stuff. Jihad Campbell with the. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with Omari and Hampton here, running back, North Carolina. I actually love the pick. I don't know that that's what they're going to do. We'll see when it all put shakes out then at their with their second pick, Denver is picking at 51. Okay. The Broncos still have a wide receiver need and I'm stuck because there is literally is not a wide receiver that's even in the range. So I gotta start looking on the defensive side. Interior defensive line, linebacker, corner at 51. I'm going Ty Leak Williams. I love that pick. Actually Ohio State love that pick for Denver. Okay, so we crossed off running back and IDL and now we're at wide receiver, a linebacker. It's not going to be a linebacker. We're going to wait till the fourth round on that. So Denver is going to look at wide receiver and maybe a corner. They're picking at 85 in that range. I don't see a wide receiver because we've got guys already like Jalen Lane is gone, Savion Williams gone. Jack, I'm gonna have to take a. I mean am I gonna reach. I just don't understand, I just don't understand what you do in this situation. I'm actually gonna surprise people. I'm going with Harold Fanon. I'm taking a tight end.
Steve Mensch
The 10 second spread on those wrap it ups was the best thing of this whole whole pod. All right, we're going to Pittsburgh. We only got two picks so I got time to kill. I Walter Nolan. Yeah, Walter Nolan's still on the board.
Todd McShay
Here but this is the perfect time to reset. Sorry. Jalen Milroe is on the board.
Steve Mensch
Right.
Todd McShay
We have seen and, and we have the, the foresight. We don't think it's Jackson Dart here so I don't think it'll happen. I don't think Pittsburgh, let's not go with Jalen Milroe here. But it's something to consider if they're able to move back as some kind of long term possibility. Still think Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback there. But I did want to remind us that we've got to get Jalen Milroe off this board at some point.
Steve Mensch
We do. I don't think it's here and Walter Nolan's out there and I think he's a could be a real good pick there. I actually think Derek Harmon out of Oregon fits what they do a little bit better. He's a little bit bigger. I think he's a little more versatile. I love the sealers getting Derek Harmon from Oregon at 21 overall. Now we're looking this, it gets Interesting. Are we going to get a quarterback? Are we thinking about a Will Howard? If we're not gonna. If we're gonna. Are we gonna take a will Howard at 83rd overall? I don't know. I don't love it. I'm looking for a guy I love. Will Howard is coming in as a great backup and maybe getting some starts. I'm not sure he's a developmental guy that you. That Pittsburgh really wants. Is there a running back that you know? Yes, there is. RJ Harvey, Central Florida Steelers, pick up RJ Harvey from Central Florida. Get him with the love that. 83rd pick overall.
Todd McShay
Love that.
Steve Mensch
Hampton was. Hampton was. Hampton goes a pick earlier. He was going to be. I mean, really contemplating them taking him at 21, but he's already off the board.
Todd McShay
All right, on to the next pick. Chargers. Joe OT Ortiz. Our good buddy Joe Ortiz.
Steve Mensch
What's he cooking up?
Todd McShay
Yeah, what's he cooking up this draft? I love it. Harbaugh is going to be in his ear. You know that's going to happen. All right, tight end, interior defensive line, wide receiver, Edge. Those are some of the positions I think they could be looking at. They pick at 22, and then 55 and 86. Chargers have 10 picks in this draft, but it's backloaded. Okay, so at 22, this is a great opportunity, man. The tight ends are off the board. I got it. But interior defensive lineman, Walter Nolan, wide receiver. I got Matthew golden and a Mecca Buka. Right?
Steve Mensch
O. Yeah, like those options.
Todd McShay
I just. Like. I'm going. Walter Nolan here. Haven't seen anyone mock it. I just. The talent's too good, right?
Steve Mensch
I like that.
Todd McShay
Trust your board. 22. He's. He's paid the price. I think he's one of the 15 best players in this draft. Okay, so that's a 22.
Steve Mensch
55.
Todd McShay
Now we got our interior defensive lineman. I'm crossing things off. I'm moving. I'm shaking. I'm fielding phone calls. I'm trying to figure out if I want to move back at 55. I'm going to stay home. I've got needs at tight end, wide receiver, and Edge. I don't see a wide receiver. Tight end? Nope. Edge. I'm going. I'm going. That's the problem. If you don't take one of those receivers. Bud, this is a great exercise.
Steve Mensch
I know, man. JT still there. The edge from Ohio State.
Todd McShay
And that's what I'm gonna take. JTT Edge, Ohio State, and then I get to pick 86. I'm trying to stay true to the board and not get carried away.
Steve Mensch
Right.
Todd McShay
I've already taken. Taken an edge, so I need a tight end, a wide receiver. There's no wide receivers. I'm stealing them from you. Terence Ferguson. Terrence.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, It's a good pick.
Todd McShay
Yeah. I don't know that he lasts that long, but go ahead.
Steve Mensch
All right, we're on the Green Bay.
Todd McShay
So we're looking Oregon tight end, I should say, in case you don't know, Oregon tight end Terence Ferguson. Fastest 40 of the tight ends. That would be. That would be a good pickup there.
Steve Mensch
Green Bay corner edge, interior defensive line, offensive tackle. They are picking at 23, Maxwell haon. Great Kentucky there. That done and done. So at 54, we're now looking at J. Alexander.
Todd McShay
We got our new Jer.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, why not? Oh, this is Green Bay. This is kind of working out nice. 54, they get Toledo defensive tackle Darius Alexander, I think is a good fit for what they do. Good value home run. So what else we got left? Now we've got an edge or an offensive tackle at 87. Let's see. Captain Jack. The Ohio State guys getting some play. We'll go Captain Jack with that. With the 87th pick overall.
Todd McShay
Okay. I like it. It's a good. Yeah, right down the middle.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
Good job, babe. Good job, baby. Here we go. Keep it moving.
Steve Mensch
I would love Stewart there, but you already took him.
Todd McShay
All right, reminder, Minnesota traded back from 24. They only had four picks, the fewest of any organization coming into this draft. They recoup one, they recoup a third round pick. They're picking at 71 after their 40th pick with New Orleans that they trade back. So 40, 71, 97 for the Vikings. Okay. They have cornerback need, which. There isn't a cornerback at this spot. There isn't a cornerback until we get to the end of this. End of this drill in the third round. This is wild. This is something to keep in mind as we. As we go into the draft. It takes exercise like this and this is what team. They don't do it this way exactly. But teams go through all the possibilities and that's why you talk about combination picks. If we don't take one here, what are we going to get? Maybe we don't get one. All right, so interior, defensive lineman, offensive line, we're pick 40. I'm going Kenneth Grant.
Steve Mensch
Okay.
Todd McShay
I know. I got lucky. He's still here. I don't know that he will be in. In the real deal, but let's just call it an Interior defensive lineman Kenneth.
Steve Mensch
Grant there, if he's there.
Todd McShay
Yeah. So we've got the IDL there, offensive line and safety. My next Pick is at 71, so I'm going to try to go in the range.
Steve Mensch
Offensive line, Watts is still on the board, right?
Todd McShay
They're in a good position, man. They can just kind of take what they want. They did so such a great job, I think. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get crazy. I'm taking Cam Scaboo here. Oh, value pick. Yeah. I'm taking Scam Cam. Scatter. Boo.
Steve Mensch
The third time you're trying to make nice, Tucker. I get it.
Todd McShay
And. And then 97 overall is where I'll get my cornerback. Jacob Parish, corner from Kansas State. Five, nine and a half, 191 pounds, but he's a burner. Four, three, five. There we go.
Steve Mensch
This is rough, man. You're the Houston Texans and you're looking for an offensive tackle. I mean, you. I mean, what are you doing? They're all gone, right? I mean, they're. They're all gone. Any of the guys that you think.
Todd McShay
Well, that's what we talk about. That's why tackles go earlier than they should. Quarterbacks and tackles go earlier than they should.
Steve Mensch
Right. So let's just. We'll move on. You know, you got.
Todd McShay
You got to just move on.
Steve Mensch
So they could go an interior offensive lineman. I don't think they're going to do that at this point in the draft.
Todd McShay
Although why. No, no, I. I've heard a lot about that. Alabama connection. Get the offensive front version of the defensive front version. They got in Will Anderson. I like.
Steve Mensch
You like Booker for them.
Todd McShay
Yeah. I think that that would be a really good fit.
Steve Mensch
All right, we'll go Booker. It's 25. I don't love garden. I say it's close to 50.
Todd McShay
50 if it's Booker or another player or.
Steve Mensch
Okay, so we'll go Booker. That's fine. Jump it down my throat. All right, 58. Let's see if there's a. There's an offensive tackle we want to take a swing on there. Ozzy Trabillo is already off the board, right?
Todd McShay
Yeah.
Steve Mensch
I took Marcus bow earlier. We're still not.
Todd McShay
You're not so well on offensive. Fine. Fine.
Steve Mensch
Yeah. We're not in the offensive tackle market right now. So. Running back. Running back at 58. What do we got? Caleb Johnson.
Todd McShay
You got awesome options. You've got Judkins and Johnson.
Steve Mensch
All right, I'm looking down the board. I was just looking at what was. At 58. I didn't realize it was already gone. Who was the other guy jumping and who was the other one?
Todd McShay
And Caleb Johnson.
Steve Mensch
I'm taking Juggies.
Todd McShay
Yeah. Yeah.
Steve Mensch
I'm taking Chuckins.
Todd McShay
You're acting like you're. Like you're. This is a struggle for you. You just got. Didn't realize you got the best guard and you got one of the top four running backs in the class. Go ahead.
Steve Mensch
Here's my process. I look at the pick, I look at where your ranking is, and then I work myself backwards.
Todd McShay
80 already 89. 79. And then 89.
Steve Mensch
79. And then 89. All right, so 79. Oh, he took Grant. You're killing me.
Todd McShay
That up bench. You see, that seemed.
Steve Mensch
That seemed intentional, Tucker. That seemed intentional.
Todd McShay
Yeah.
Steve Mensch
I mean, they're in a bad spot here. 3. 79. We're gonna. We're trying to get a wide receiver, an edge interior defensive lineman. Oh, this is going to get harder as we go, too.
Todd McShay
No.
Steve Mensch
Jaylen Lane already off the board. Jack Sawyer, off the board. Josiah Stewart, off the board.
Todd McShay
Ty Robbins. That's a reach, man.
Steve Mensch
This is.
Todd McShay
You really. This thing up.
Steve Mensch
I really don't know what to do.
Todd McShay
I mean, Mitch, do I have to draft for you?
Steve Mensch
Just give me some. Give me some love. Give me some.
Todd McShay
You got a running back, you got a guard. You need a wide receiver, an edge interior defensive lineman. You're picking up. What. What about David Walker? Edge.
Steve Mensch
Good, Done. David Walker. Edge. He is gone at 79. So. At 89. Who do we got for wide receiver? At 89, Toy Hord's gone. Yeah. I like Jalen Royals. I like Jalen Royce. I like them more than you do. Only took me 25 minutes.
Todd McShay
Talking about preferential treatment. All right, here's the. Here's the bind that I'm in. I don't.
Steve Mensch
I don't hear it now.
Todd McShay
I don't think the Rams are going to take Jaylen Milro, but where are we going to put him? They're not taking him a twin. I don't think they're taking him at 26. I'm not doing that to them. All right, Rams, 26. I am looking at this now. We don't pick again until the 90s. Until 90 and 101. I've got. Needs a corner linebacker. Yeah, I'm taking. I'm taking Jihad Campbell. I didn't think he was going to get here.
Steve Mensch
Love it.
Todd McShay
Off the ball, linebacker. Jihad Campbell's a win. Absolute win. You're welcome, Les. Need you're welcome, Les.
Steve Mensch
It's nice when the board's easy, you know what I mean?
Todd McShay
Then we get to 90. Then we get to 90. We got our linebacker. We need corner. We need defensive back, offensive tackle. I'm gonna. I'm looking at this and there's none of the. Billy Bowman, safety from Oklahoma.
Steve Mensch
Which Pick is at 90?
Todd McShay
Yeah.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
This is tough, bro.
Steve Mensch
This is going to be the most dead air we've ever had on a boat.
Todd McShay
No, no, I. I like it.
Steve Mensch
People.
Todd McShay
People sense it. They feel the pressure.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
We got our linebacker, corner safety. I'm gonna go with Upton. Upton Stout. No, no, no, no. Caleb Ransoft.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
Quarterback from. From Tulane. Those would be my two picks. Billy Bowman, safety, undersized madman from Oklahoma. Five, nine and a half, 192. Ran a four, four, two preparation like you've never seen before at safety. And then with my Last pick at 101, I'm taking the cornerback. Caleb Ransa. 511 and change. 197 pounds right at 4:33. We're betting on the traits when we get late in the third. That's a good pick for the. For the Rams. Rana with their final pick in the first two days.
Steve Mensch
Here we are, Baltimore, Gray Zable, North Dakota State still on the board. Who's the best corner available? I don't think that's gonna work.
Todd McShay
There is no corner available.
Steve Mensch
No.
Todd McShay
Until like the third round. Now, corners and tackles and wide receivers have been a pain to find.
Steve Mensch
Kenneth Grant. I mean, I think you'd rather Tyler Booker from Alabama here for what you do, but I don't. I don't hate. Gray's able here. Going Gray, able. The guard from North Tona State.
Todd McShay
Yep.
Steve Mensch
Good value pick. Good need pick. Doesn't make sense. Moving on. We got 59 overall. We are looking for a corner, interior defensive lineman or safety. Oh, there's some options at interior, defensive line safety that Kevin Winston's already gone. I am going to go. T.J. sanders, S.C. i'm higher on them than a lot of other people are. I think that he's a good value. Good pick there.
Todd McShay
Yep, agreed.
Steve Mensch
I'm gonna say that a lot because that's how much I like my picks. 91 corner safety, edge. What do we got? What do we got?
Todd McShay
Upton Stout, Andrew Makuba.
Steve Mensch
Makuba. Yes, Andrew Makuba. Little undersized but tough. Could play over the slot. I like him.
Todd McShay
He's lean, but he got better this year. I liked his tape. Coming out of Texas.
Steve Mensch
Claim the Clemson transfer.
Todd McShay
Yep. All right, move. Detroit picking 28 overall. We got three picks right down the middle here late in each round. Detroit is picking it at 2860. They actually don't have their original third. They have a compensatory pick at 102. Okay, so those are the three picks. Needs for Detroit include edge, obviously. Interior offensive line, interior defensive line, linebacker, safety down the line. Okay, this is a problem because the edge is what they really want to get. Oh, no, this isn't a problem. Oh, this is tough, though, man.
Steve Mensch
What do you got?
Todd McShay
Supremely talented player. And bring in someone that doesn't match the. Necessarily the. The makeup of this team. And James Pierce. Or do we take the makeup without the traits? I'm going with James Pierce here. You're going to bet on all your veteran leadership there. James Pierce out of Tennessee. I think he's the second best pure pass rusher in this class. So now we get to the second pick, 60 overall. We need an interior offensive lineman. Interior defensive lineman if you're Detroit. Okay. Late in the second, I got Shamar Turner. What a win.
Steve Mensch
Love it. Love it.
Todd McShay
Great draft for Detroit, man. You get. You bolster that defensive front. After the trouble that team had when the. When depth became a problem, half the defensive side was injured. Now I got a three technique. I got an edge. It can rush the quarterback opposite Hutch. Now I need a guard or a linebacker, a safety or tight end. When I pick it 102. I'll get some fair value down here. Guard, linebacker. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with Smell Munden, linebacker out of Georgia. 6, 2 and change. 224, 4, 5, 8, 40. Guy's a player. It's been nicked up. But. But I like that at 102, you're basically in the fourth round at that point.
Steve Mensch
This is tough, man. Washington. I mean, edge would be great. I don't think there's. At 29 because Pierce is off the board at this point. That would have been a great pick. I'm not seeing it. So other options were running back, corner.
Todd McShay
All the.
Steve Mensch
I think the best running backs are gone. Corners there are gone. Who's the best player on the available on the board right now? McShay.
Todd McShay
Yeah. Best available on the board. And. And we've got more guys in the first is probably why we're having a problem with some of these players. But Matthew golden, wide receiver. And Mecca Buka, wide receiver.
Steve Mensch
I'm not even thinking about it. I'm going.
Todd McShay
Matt. Okay.
Steve Mensch
I know they got Debo. Yeah. Give me the best.
Todd McShay
Yeah. Matthew golden and Emeka Buka at wide receiver. Malachi Starks, safety out of Georgia. Nick Eamon worry safety out of South Carolina. And Edge Donovan as a raku and tight end.
Steve Mensch
I took him earlier as a rock who should be off the board.
Todd McShay
Yeah, okay, got it. So Mason Taylor would round it out at five players there.
Steve Mensch
I think the value. Yeah, I think the value is too good. You go out and get Matthew Golden. I mean, look, now you have a receiving core that is. I mean, it's ridiculous with Terry McLaurin, Matthew golden and Debo Samuel.
Todd McShay
Yeah.
Steve Mensch
I mean, you give your young running back all those weapons. By the way, with the aging Zach Ertz, they've used a lot of draft capital on tight ends.
Todd McShay
They took, I think play after Jeremy Chin heading out. He would be in play. But I. I'm with you there. Go ahead.
Steve Mensch
I just like it too much.
Todd McShay
Oh, and Malachi Stark. Sorry. Yeah, okay.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, I'm still going. Matthew golden, best available player. And you're giving you that young, talented quarterback, another absolute weapon. So now we're going to 61. What do we got available for a edge, a running back, a corner.
Todd McShay
Caleb Johnson.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, I like that. Let's go. Caleb Johnson.
Todd McShay
All right. You didn't get cut off. Washington only has two picks in the first two days. Buffalo sitting there at 30. They pick at 30. They pick at 62. And they pick. Sorry. 56 and 62. So they have two second round picks. Oh, from Minnesota. Was that 56 overall pick? Okay. Buffalo's needs. Cornerback is their biggest need. Like, I'm sorry, sorry. Brandon Bean. Like, I don't. I got nothing for you. Edge, interior, defensive line, running back, safety. That's a line running. I'm taking Malachi Starks. I just like. It's a value pick.
Steve Mensch
Right.
Todd McShay
I know this will look terrible. People like, what? You're crazy. If we post this for Buffalo, obviously this is the range that you would like, but none of those corners are falling anyway. So I don't know where you think you're getting your corner because Jade Baron is going to be gone. Will Johnson's going to be.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
Travis Hunter's obviously gone. Like Maxwell Hairston is going to be gone. You see, he's. He got a late invite to the combat. To the combine. Yeah, Draft. All right, we're going safety there. Interesting. Buffalo, not what I expected to do. Now we got cornerback still edge. I mean, I can't get a corner until the third round, so I'm picking at 56. An early pick. Somebody's got a fold in me, right?
Steve Mensch
Yep.
Todd McShay
Edge, Interior, defensive line. Running back. You just stole the running back because now we got an issue. I'm going to take Landon Jackson.
Steve Mensch
That's what I was going to do.
Todd McShay
Great pick. Arkansas 6, 6, 26 4. Runs 4, 6, 8. Really good. I think off the edge. Not as a five technique. He is. He's more finesse than. Than I expected on tape. So that's your edge. So now an interior guy or running back, a linebacker. We're picking it 62, their last of three picks. Interior guy. I mean, this board is ravaged.
Steve Mensch
Yeah.
Todd McShay
DJ Giddens. I like this pick. DJ Glitch. Let's go Kansas. Before I was rudely interrupted, I was saying, that's the Kansas State running back DJ Giddens. Human glitch is what Mensch calls them. The agility. Catches the ball well. Dynamic player. 6 foot 2 12, ran a 4, 4, 3, great combine workout. Just kind of matched up the explosiveness on tape. Go ahead, Mitch. You are up with the 31st pick. Final two teams in this power hour. Chiefs are up with pick 31. Then they pick at 63, then they pick at 66, then they pick at 95.
Steve Mensch
I really thought there would be a good defensive lineman available here, and there's not. There's just not, you know, like the. You see some of these where Walter Nolan might be there. Kenneth Grant, in these scenarios, he's just. They're all gone. They're all off our board. I'm going. Nicki Minwari, Justin Reed left in free agency. I know we don't have it down as a knee, but I think, you know, looking at it, I think Nikki Minwari is a good value. I think they do have a need there. So. So that's. We're gonna go. 31st pick, Nicki Minwari, he's gone as high and as 18. People had him going at one point. So now we go to 95. No, hold on until everyone caught up.
Todd McShay
With what I've been trying to tell you for a long time, but that's. Stop it. For another time.
Steve Mensch
Stop it.
Todd McShay
Go ahead.
Steve Mensch
Stop it.
Todd McShay
66. No, no, no. 63, then 66. Sorry.
Steve Mensch
Yeah, I'm jumping ahead. Thank you. 63 and then 66, man, the defensive lineman. It's just not a good market right there. It's just goes to show you how these guys are valued. Tight end. 66.
Todd McShay
There's no tight end left. No, like, literally no tight end left until we get to the fourth round.
Steve Mensch
Running back, you already. You just Took Giddens.
Todd McShay
Next running back, Dylan Sampson start too early.
Steve Mensch
Too late. I mean, too early. Sorry.
Todd McShay
You can take him at 96, though.
Steve Mensch
That's what we'll take him at 95. Dylan Sampson will take it. 95. So we knock that out.
Todd McShay
95. Sorry. Yeah.
Steve Mensch
But at 63, now we still got.
Todd McShay
You got two picks. Two picks. Right corner.
Steve Mensch
Oh, we'll go Darien Porter.
Todd McShay
I. I already.
Steve Mensch
You did?
Todd McShay
Yep.
Steve Mensch
Oh, man. I will say time that old man perfectly. This is tough. Offensive tackle. Not nothing really there.
Todd McShay
There's literally nothing left. And this is kind of where the. The exercise gets a little screwy. Give two players in that range that you think could go there at positions that they need that have already been taken if you want. So I would say the positions you're talking about for Kansas City are interior, defensive line, Right.
Steve Mensch
Yeah. Off at the tackle, edge, tight end, running back.
Todd McShay
I can give you Darius Alexander. Yeah. Sampson in the. In the third makes a lot of sense. But Darius, I like that defensive tackle from Toledo would be.
Steve Mensch
Yes.
Todd McShay
An option with like TJ Sanders and. And Shamar Turner. Like one of those guys should be available when they pick there. And then some other. And then for Kansas City, I look at it, there's not going to be tackle, so I think like an Edge or a tight end or they might.
Steve Mensch
Take a flyer on a Belton or a Charles Grant the third if they're there. But again, I don't think they will be.
Todd McShay
Yeah. At offensive tackle. All right. They're wrapping up.
Steve Mensch
I don't know how. I don't know how receptive they're going to be to this, but this has been my favorite Bach. It. It's funny to me.
Todd McShay
All right.
Steve Mensch
I mean, this favorite pod.
Todd McShay
So here's the deal, and it's not going to happen where a Mecca. Buka and Mason Taylor are still on the board. And. And then when you get to pick the second pick for the Philadelphia Eagles at 64, that one of them's still on the board. So I'm going to tell you right now, Mason Taylor with Dallas Goddard. And I've been saying this for over a week now. Dallas Goddard and the situation there. I think Mason Taylor. I could see Howie Roseman having his eyes set on Taylor, who's very likely to be there at 32. Not. Not guaranteed. But I think Mason Taylor makes a lot of sense for The Eagles at 32. Then you get back in the second round. Second. The last pick in the second round. Pick 64 overall. Excuse me. The Eagles have addressed that need they still have safety, interior, defensive line. I think 60. This would be a great spot for Xavier Watts. Yeah, awesome spot for Xavier Watts. That's a legitimate, like, legitimate possibility. And if, if Howie comes out, first of all, I love you, Howie. There's no chance he's sticking and picking at 32 and 64. He ants in the pants, so he's going to be moving around. But those would be two great value, good fits like everything that they want. Right. And then the final pick, 96. Okay. The original pick 96. They're Philadelphia at that point. Like again super bowl champions. They don't. They're not desperate for anything but safe. We got a safety. We got the tight end. I think defensive line continue to bolster that group anywhere in the defense, corner linebacker. But I think in defensive line.
Steve Mensch
How about the Georgia kid? The Georgia kid.
Todd McShay
Oh my gosh. And. And of course Georgia. The Florida GM goes back to the Georgia. Well with a late riser. I've been screaming at, you've been bitching about.
Steve Mensch
But now I think perfect way to end this.
Todd McShay
Tyrion Ingram Dawkins. How about that for a power hour. I do want to finish. I recognize a mecca. Buka didn't get picked. It was just part of the exercise. I think we did an awesome job, if I'm going to be honest. It was like if you're watching on video and you see. You got to see the top of my head and the top of men's hat and like, yeah, it might not have been the best tv, but we're not on on TV anymore. Mitch, I'll say this when you go back and I don't think anyone's crazy enough to go and study. Well, they didn't pick, but Jalen Milroe did not get picked. That's going to be a tough one to figure out where he goes. It's going to be a while. I said it back in October. He's the wild card of the draft and he's going to be the one. And of course he's. He's accepted the invitation. He's going to be at the draft. Those guys always go in the first, right? We're making sure we don't have another will Levis on our hands. Well, we're going to see how that plays out. But Milro didn't go. A Mecha Buka didn't go. I think Milro. There's a handful of spots we. We talked about Pittsburgh, the Giants, Cleveland with Tommy Reese connection. The. The Rams. But I don't know. At 26. Like there's a lot of possibilities for Milro and his development and a Mecca Buka could go and like honestly starting with maybe Denver at 20, truly like I know he doesn't have the flashy sexy trait but the guy is reliable. You know what you're getting? You're getting a 70, 80 catch per year slot receiver who's going to bring like a what is a force multiplier. He is going to be the rare like absolute leader, leader on offense at the wide receiver position. So those two guys didn't hear their name called. That will not be the case in the first night or the first 40, 50 picks of the draft. And a Mecca Buka, as I promised you men will be a first round pick. If not, I owe you a dinner. Out in la we just you don't.
Steve Mensch
Put them in mocks anymore. That's fine. It's fine.
Todd McShay
I'm just teasing you.
Steve Mensch
I know it's coming. I know the last mock.
Todd McShay
This was fun. I'm not going to give you schedule stuff. I'm not going to thank you because people are getting pissed off. I'm spending too much time thanking them and telling them up what's up next. You guys will figure it out. Then you're on your own. We appreciate it. Hopefully you enjoyed this drill. Little scramble, but it was a lot of fun. Love you, mensch. Go get your stuff done. Don't come see. I always get you in a better mood. Don't come in in the mood. Next week.
Steve Mensch
I love this.
Todd McShay
We got. Oh, not next week. We got the. We're giving back to the people. I'm not allowed to talk about the future, but we're giving back to the people. A mailbag coming up. Mailbag show. Mailbag show on Friday. All right, see you later. Love you.
Steve Mensch
Bye.
Todd McShay
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Podcast Summary: The McShay Show – "The Team Needs Dueling Mock Draft! Three Rounds, 102 Picks, Endless Chaos."
Episode Details:
The episode kicks off with sponsored segments promoting No Bull footwear and FanDuel sportsbook, emphasizing the upcoming NFL Draft excitement. Todd McShay introduces the concept of the episode—a one-hour "Power Hour" mock draft covering all 32 NFL teams and their draft picks in the first three rounds. He teases ample content, including exclusive mock drafts and interactions with industry friends, ensuring listeners are in for a comprehensive and engaging session.
Notable Quote:
Todd McShay (00:00): "Nobody wants to hear the positions their team needs. Everybody wants a player matched with their team. So today we serve the Everybody."
Mock Draft Structure: Todd and Steve Mensch embark on their ambitious mock draft, aiming to cover 32 teams with 102 picks in just 64 minutes. They assign players to each team based on projected needs and their rankings, often improvising to keep pace with the time constraints.
Key Highlights:
Tennessee Titans (Pick 1 & 35):
Cleveland Browns (Pick 2 & 67):
New York Giants (Pick 3 & Others):
New England Patriots (Pick 4 & 38):
Jacksonville Jaguars (Pick 5 & 36):
Chicago Bears (Pick 10, 39, 41, & 72):
Notable Interactions: Todd and Steve engage in a lively banter, often cutting each other off to expedite the drafting process. Their chemistry adds a dynamic and entertaining layer to the mock draft.
Notable Quote:
Steve Mensch (03:56): "Attaboy."
Todd McShay (03:57): "Oh, and the McShay report. Google it. You can get it."
Continued Mock Drafting: Todd and Steve proceed to address numerous teams, each with unique needs. They navigate through various positions, including wide receivers, defensive linemen, and quarterbacks, often making split-second decisions to keep up with the time pressure.
Key Selections:
Arizona Cardinals (Pick 16, 47, & 78):
Pittsburgh Steelers (Pick 31 & 95):
Detroit Lions (Pick 28, 60, & 102):
Challenges Faced: The duo encounters difficulties as many wide receivers and offensive tackles get selected early, forcing them to adapt their strategies on the fly. Their resourcefulness shines as they pivot to available talent, ensuring each team's needs are addressed despite the chaotic pace.
Notable Quote:
Steve Mensch (35:00): "I don't care that you're gonna be mad about it. I don't care that you're gonna tell me it's too soon. I'm not gonna. I don't care that this isn't what's going to happen. Right. I get to make the pick here. This is what I think they should do, right?"
Todd McShay (35:00): "Yeah. But staying within reason because we're trying to serve the F. We're trying to serve everybody here."
Closing Picks: In the final stretches, Todd and Steve face a scarcity of available wide receivers and offensive tackles, prompting them to make calculated decisions or select players in positions that may not have been primary targets earlier in the draft.
Key Selections:
Kansas City Chiefs (Pick 93):
Philadelphia Eagles (Pick 64 & 96):
Buffalo Bills (Pick 56 & 62):
Key Insights: The mock draft underscores the unpredictability of the NFL Draft, illustrating how quickly player availability can shift and how teams must remain flexible. Todd emphasizes the importance of not overthinking picks, while Steve highlights the value of seizing available talent that meets team needs.
Notable Quote:
Todd McShay (85:09): "Jalen Milro did not get picked. That will not be the case in the first night or the first 40, 50 picks of the draft."
Steve Mensch (85:13): "I mean, this is my favorite bach. It’s funny to me."
Conclusion: The episode concludes with reflections on the mock draft's outcomes, acknowledging the chaotic yet strategic nature of team selections. Todd teases upcoming content, including a mailbag show, and encourages listeners to stay engaged for more draft insights and analyses.
Notable Quote:
Todd McShay (85:14): "I think we did an awesome job, if I'm going to be honest."
Steve Mensch (85:38): "This has been my favorite chat. It’s funny to me."
Final Noteworthy Quote:
Todd McShay (85:52): "This was fun. I'm not going to give you schedule stuff. I'm not going to thank you because people are getting pissed off. I'm spending too much time thanking them and telling them up what's up next. You guys will figure it out."
Overall, this episode of The McShay Show provides an in-depth and lively exploration of the NFL Draft, offering listeners a blend of expert analysis, strategic mock drafting, and entertaining host dynamics. Whether you're an avid NFL fan or new to the draft process, Todd McShay and Steve Mensch deliver valuable insights and engaging content that demystifies the complexities of team selections and player evaluations.