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Daniel Jeremiah
The 2027 way too early. Mock draft is live. Hey, scumbags, Grab your pens and your paper. Let's go. 359 days until the NFL draft. You good men?
Bucky Brooks
I'm great, man.
Daniel Jeremiah
Tucker roll my favorite be.
Bucky Brooks
Can I get something in real quick? Okay, listen, scumbags. All the heat we took last year for this, having these quarterbacks. Too high.
Daniel Jeremiah
I get it.
Bucky Brooks
We were off on some of these quarterbacks.
Daniel Jeremiah
So was the league. Yes.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay, let. Let me. Let me say hello to people first.
Bucky Brooks
I don't. I don't.
Daniel Jeremiah
Hello, everyone. You're listening to the McShay show, presented by FanDuel. The NFL Draft may be behind us, but FanDuel still has everything you need to get ready for the upcoming NFL season. Because FanDuel has all kinds of bets from who's going to win the super bowl to who's going to the playoffs to who's going to win rookie of the year, which I'm keeping my eye on. So if you don't already have it, make sure to download the FanDuel sportsbook app today. FanDuel, play your game 21 plus select states. 18 plus DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gambler, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut. You know, the beauty of our dynamic here, right, is that even last night, we had, like, this. This dinner that was lovely, kind of wrapping up the draft and kind of a production, talking about the future and, you know, all good things. And there's, like, this feeling that I'm the one who doesn't take feedback well. There's this feeling that I'm the one who's, like, you know, tough to deal with. And. And I can be. I'm. I'm an absolute prick for, like, two weeks of the year. And I certainly have my moments, like we all do, but I'm pretty cool with, like, you know, tell me where. Tell me where we can get better. Let's. Constructive criticism. Let's go. I'm here to always, like, where are
Bucky Brooks
you going with this?
Daniel Jeremiah
Because I think it gets projected a little bit. And here's the dynamic that I. That's intriguing to me because I. I'm the one who's. Who's the. The guy who's, like, getting, you know, who everyone thinks is hard to manage. And, like, I don't know if Todd's going to take this well and all that, but when it comes to, like, constructive criticism and feedback, I promise you the. The Bear in the group in this one is Mensch. He does not take it. Ready to soundtrack your summer with Red
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Daniel Jeremiah
See you this summer. Well, now, now, the reason. Hold on, hold on, let me. I'm going to come full circle on this, but the reason I kind of. The reason I deeply respect it is because he's the most loyal son of a gun in the world. So you come at me or us, this guy's going to be the first one to jump down your throat. So let's get to the reason why we're talking about all this. Dan had a great idea. Let's go back and look at last year. Everyone else does. Everyone else. Look how ridiculous this is.
Bucky Brooks
You know, by the way, that includes me. I think this is silliness.
Daniel Jeremiah
But, but also, like, there's some, there's some things to learn from everyone. Also, we told you we do an appropriately early one later. And even then, like, we haven't gotten enough of the tape. But, but let's take a look at last year's mock draft. This is the way too early mock draft. And yeah, it jumps right out. It's like, it's like screaming off the page. Nuss Meyer, 1 overall. Lenore Sellers, 4 overall. I know. I'll let you defend it in a minute. Club went in the fourth round. These guys are idiots. Blake Miller one looks pretty good though,
Bucky Brooks
doesn't it fall you to get that out?
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay, so anyway, so let's look at this, right? I look at this and I see some. I see some positives, I see some negatives. I don't know what we necessarily learned from it. Did we over hype the quarterback class a little bit? Yeah, sure. But I promise you, talking to teams in the league and even like the national scouting list, like Garrett Nussmeier was one or two on team sports, you know who the other one was was Drew Aller. And we were never really that high on Drew Aller. Garrett Nussmeier then has the season. He has the tendonitis, right?
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
And, and you know, the cyst on the spine. Cyst on the spine that led to the core injury and he wasn't himself all year, so he Winds up going late in the draft to the Chiefs, and he'll battle to try to work to become the backup there and see what happens with his career. I'm not defending it. I get it. And I will be the first to admit I overrated the quarterback class in general last year, like the Nussmeyers and the Cade. And I didn't overrate Drew Aller, but I knew he was going to go earlier than teams than I thought he should. And that's what a mock draft is. And Cade Klubnick I was too high on. I will own the Cade Klubnick one with. That's the one for me that I. Nussmeier was injured and it was a disaster, and everyone in the league had a high grade on him coming into the year. But I look at that and I see, yeah, there's room for improvement. Let's keep grinding away. And it's kind of funny at this point.
Bucky Brooks
It should be fun.
Daniel Jeremiah
We're all human.
Bucky Brooks
It should be fun.
Daniel Jeremiah
This is a fun exercise that people enjoy to get a sense of what next year's draft class is. But Mensch. Yeah, well, I'm finally putting the final touches because I was getting. We'll get to this year's mock draft, but I'm putting the final touches on this 2027 mock draft. Mensch is over here. It's like a lawyer getting ready to go into court. What do you got? Are you gonna let me just look,
Bucky Brooks
when you take away my fun, I get mad. This is. This should be fun. You should be learning about names, about what teams, what direction they might go in. This is what this exercise is. So we look back. Let's just look at the numbers.
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay?
Bucky Brooks
11 of the players that are on that list when the first round, I think that's a pretty good number. Seven of them went day two. That's pretty good, too, man.
Daniel Jeremiah
So eight. 18 of the 32 went when? In the first two days. So what about the other 16 guys?
Bucky Brooks
Six went back.
Daniel Jeremiah
So only 10 of them weren't first second day draft picks.
Bucky Brooks
Only eight of them.
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, eight of them. Sorry. Eight.
Bucky Brooks
Yes. So everyone's a beat up on the quarterbacks and listen, I get it. I get it.
Daniel Jeremiah
And three of them were quarterbacks, but.
Bucky Brooks
Yes, but look at those numbers, man.
Daniel Jeremiah
So for the rest of the draft, we did really, really good. That's actually. Those are actually good numbers. I did. I wasn't a part of your pre show defensive.
Bucky Brooks
Me and Dan huddled. So listen, here's the other thing.
Daniel Jeremiah
Jackson, Karen Reed, he represented Karen Reed and a lot of other people were out in la. Jackson. I'm forgetting his name.
Bucky Brooks
Let me go.
Daniel Jeremiah
It was like that team that he assembles.
Bucky Brooks
I will tell you this. This exercise is supposed to be fun. I'm always looking at him like, hey, man, you know the names. We know the players.
Daniel Jeremiah
Barry Jackson. Why am I blanking on that?
Bucky Brooks
You're killing me right now.
Daniel Jeremiah
Sorry.
Bucky Brooks
You are absolutely killing me.
Daniel Jeremiah
Not Johnny Cochran. We know Johnny Cochran. Jackson. He just. He did the Karen Reed thing. I'm from Massachusetts.
Bucky Brooks
Does anyone outside of Massachusetts care about the Karen Reid case?
Daniel Jeremiah
I mean, it's all over Netflix, and It was on 2020 in Dateline and everything.
Bucky Brooks
I mean, we need Marissa in your ear right now.
Daniel Jeremiah
I've got Dan in there with Marissa, and I can't believe that someone's not bailing me out on this, but go ahead.
Bucky Brooks
I'm losing my. I'm like, losing my.
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay.
Bucky Brooks
This is supposed to be fun. You're killing me. This is supposed to be fun, right? You're supposed to be going through these names.
Daniel Jeremiah
Alan Jackson.
Bucky Brooks
This is.
Daniel Jeremiah
What. Are you supposed to be fun? We're going through the names, right? Alan Jackson.
Bucky Brooks
When I tell you that McShay is a maniac about the first way too early mock draft. This is.
Daniel Jeremiah
This is really.
Bucky Brooks
He's not going to tell you this. This is probably mock 1.3.
Daniel Jeremiah
It is.
Bucky Brooks
He put. He had a version of this a couple days ago. He's making phone calls to teams. He's making phone calls to other people. I'm not going to. I don't want to give anything away here. He's trying to figure out, well, hey, what do you guys think here? What do you think about that for a mock. What is it today? I don't even know what the date is. April 27th.
Daniel Jeremiah
No, 27th. Yep. April 20th. We're taping this on Monday. It's coming out in a couple days. Okay.
Bucky Brooks
I didn't know what. You know, the magic of tv. I didn't know if I handled that well.
Daniel Jeremiah
That being said, yes, you.
Bucky Brooks
It's kind of. It's kind of out of control. But if you're looking for one, if you're looking for a way too early mock where someone's really putting in the effort and they have a little bit of a history here. Folks, this is the one to read.
Daniel Jeremiah
Thank you, sir. I actually, to be honest with you, more so in the last 48 hours than I ever have before in any other way. Too early mock draft. Because stuff pisses me off and it's good. I handle it pretty well. But I like. I don't. Here's my deal with this. The truce serum. The exercise is fun. I really, truly like it. Let's get the names out there. Let's start talking about 2027. Get excited about the college football season. Okay. What I have a deep, like burning fear of and like I've had Nick Saban call me and rip my ass. I've had Urban and I are buds, man. I spent a year at his house. Like, his house is going down every week in the fall. He's calling me after he goes back to Ohio State and he's tearing into me. And I don't even care about that part because I know that their agenda at the time, right, they don't see
Bucky Brooks
their players walking on.
Daniel Jeremiah
What I care. What I care about is I don't want to give false hope to some players. So every year I'm enlisting more and more and people in the league are actually more open now than ever to share these lists with me of their initial list before, like they get together with the national and the scout and the oblasto to try to get the, you know, where they send their scouts out and all the players to take a look at at every school. So. So I feel better about this list than we ever have before. We've watched all the quarterbacks. We obviously know many of the top players. But when we get into like picks 20 to 32, I really wanted to make sure this is representative of what NFL teams, they're very, very early. Look who they have sitting there. Like, these are the top three guys. I had one team. These are the top three guys in each position. Another team said the quick snapshot of the board, like, this is more information than I've ever had to make this. So let's get onto it. Here's the other part we do need to share as we're taping it on Monday and this show I believe will come out Wednesday is my understanding. And Tucker just gave me the confirmation on that. Brandon Sorsby, the Cincinnati quarterback a year ago now, Texas Tech transfer. Okay, Brandon Sorsby. Brandon Sorsby was in my, was in my initial 2027, way too early mock draft. Okay. Super talented quarterback. Like a lot of teams are really high on his potential. Obviously Texas Tech made sure with the, with the El Matador club that they were going to get a big time quarterback to come in this year after Baron Morton winds up getting drafted by the Patriots I think in the sixth or seventh round. So so enter Sorsby. Unfortunately, news just broke and this is again on Monday morning. And there may be more information that breaks between now and then, but this is why I have made the executive decision remove him from this way too early mock draft because there's eligibility concern. So Sorsby, the report that we have from Pete Thammel is. I'll give you just a quick breakdown. SourceBe bet on Indiana football while red shirting for the Hoosiers as a true freshman. As a freshman in 2022, that red shirt year. According to sources, the bets in 22, 2022 were on Indiana to win and none came in a game in which Sorsby appeared. So you can read this report from Pete Thammel. There's no. And Sorsby is now going to receive treatment and there's no timeline on the treatment for Sorsby, but they're treating it as a mental health issue and he's trying to get help for it. And it's a very serious like gambling addiction is a very serious epidemic in this day and age. And we encourage everyone to, when they do decide to wager, wager wisely. But the NCAA has a very strict policy against any type of gambling by athletes on intercollegiate, amateur or professional athletics competition. And so this is a violation. And now the eligibility question comes into play. So until that is cleared up for us, we're kind of in a wait and see mode. And we certainly have a lot of other quarterbacks in this 20, 2027, way too early mock draft to fill out all the needs that we have. And that's kind of, it's a, it's not a comfortable transition anything you move on to here. But it's kind of the beauty of this 2027 quarterback class where you think you lose a potential top 10 pick and it's a kind of next guy up. And so I want to, I want to get into it and we should.
Bucky Brooks
You explain the order first so people understand.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes, thank you very much. See, Mench has always got my back. He doesn't like the criticism. He's going to protect the, he protects the establishment. We, we basically went off of the super bowl odds as of as of April 26, 2026, and it's in reverse order. And so picking at the top here with the New York jets, the Miami Dolphins, Arizona Cardinals and Cleveland Browns, who all basically have identical odds to that are the furthest odds away from them being in the Super Bowl. And then the list goes on. But this is not some power ranking that Steve and I came up with this is based purely on odds in reverse order of it. Okay, who.
Bucky Brooks
Here we go.
Daniel Jeremiah
There's a lot to get.
Bucky Brooks
Now we get to get to the fun stuff.
Daniel Jeremiah
Now we get to the fun stuff. So we had four teams at the top in the Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns. Selecting three of those four teams excluding Miami. And I wouldn't completely rule out if they're picking number two next year, Miami. But we gave them Jeremiah Smith, the wide receiver from Ohio State. We'll get to Jeremiah Smith and kind of historically where we think he could be. But the three quarterbacks that we went at the top, Arch Manning, Texas number one to the New York Jets, Dante Moore, Oregon number three, Arizona Cardinals. And then number four, the Cleveland Browns. We had selecting Lenore Sellers. Now there are other quarterbacks in this mock draft. We can get to some of those in a little bit. Sellers is higher than most people think. Sellers is Mench's guy. I mean, I love his talent too. I think this is a huge year for Sellers in terms of making a jump. But the clear conversation in this draft class and the conversation we're going to have for 359 days, as Tucker told me in the open, is it Arch or is it Dante?
Bucky Brooks
Who you got?
Daniel Jeremiah
I mean the one we know, Manning versus Moore.
Bucky Brooks
Actually this is a mock.
Daniel Jeremiah
Let's be clear.
Bucky Brooks
This isn't rankings. So you think that the jets would take.
Daniel Jeremiah
Who.
Bucky Brooks
Who would you take? Is. Is that accurate about how your board would set up right now that you have Arch with a slight edge?
Daniel Jeremiah
We. We discussed it. I went back and forth three or four times. I'm going to be honest. True. I think Dante is more. I think Dante's closer right now. I think Dante is. I don't think Dante is the better pure passer. Arch is bigger. Arch is more mobile. Arch doesn't mind. Arch kind of likes to run some. Here's the deal with Arch, man. You got to remember coming into last year, it was Texas won the national championship. Texas Heisman Arch, Heisman Trophy. Arch, number one overall pick.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
And you could feel it on tape just watching him, the pressure. And then Ohio State happened, that trip to Columbus, like that knocked his ass out and there was a residual.
Bucky Brooks
Was that game in Texas or Columbus?
Daniel Jeremiah
Columbus, oh was okay. Oh yeah, dude, you're walking in the. You're walking. Your first start is Columbus, Ohio. With all of that pressure against Matt Patricia and Arvell Reese and Caleb Downs and Sonny Styles and the rest of the game like so that. And that had like a residual. You could See, his mechanics weren't the same, but Oklahoma game, we saw some flashes, but didn't. I'm like, if that's the best of. I don't know.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
And then in the next game, he kind of really struggled. But then it was the Mississippi State game where I remember going on the show and saying, starting to see a little bit more of Arch. Like, this is what we expected. This is what the tape showed when we watched in the summer from 2024, and it kept progressing to the point where no one was talking about Arch. And I remember we did a show on it and I came on and I was like, hey, I know we stopped talking about Arch. Everyone's over it. He's dealing. And from like, really? That Mississippi State game on, you saw progress almost every single weekend. The bowl game against Michigan, he was awesome. So he enters the year with all this momentum and the expectation is pressure. We're building on it. No matter what pressure is placed on him this year, it's nothing. It's nothing in comparison to last year. And quite frankly, I hope it's as much pressure as humanly possible, because I want to see who. What he produces. Is it a diamond that we squeeze out here or what? Ferris Bueller. And then there's Dante.
Bucky Brooks
Did you call out your own reference? I like that.
Daniel Jeremiah
There you go.
Bucky Brooks
Good for you.
Daniel Jeremiah
Well, I'm older now, so I feel like sometimes I need to give the. Give the. Keep the kids up to speed. Then there's Dante, who's a better pure passer and had some ups and downs this year and made the decision. Here's the part I want to talk to you about, and I want to get your opinion on these two.
Bucky Brooks
Yep.
Daniel Jeremiah
I would be lying if I told you I didn't factor in two things here, which is weird. I'm not. Dante Moore made the right decision to go back to Oregon last year, and it was not because I don't want to be picked by the Jets. It was because of a bunch of information. And he's the first thing you hear from every scout, everyone in the NFL, everyone in that Oregon building. Like, this guy is mature beyond his years. He was one of those guys that's going to sit down, he's going to make a patient, sound decision with everything he does. And that's what he did. And the information was right. Like, next year it's going to be harder to be the number one overall pick. But it was him versus Mendoza. And we know the Raiders have come out and said, like, when he went back that it became, it was Mendoza. But we were discussing those two.
Bucky Brooks
Right.
Daniel Jeremiah
But the jets sitting at number two wasn't not part of the, of that decision making. And there's already been plenty of speculation, reports, whatever you want to call them. It's not the place he wants to go. And then you think the Manning family with Eli.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
So the question is the jets the destination is this organization different. The owner hasn't changed but GM head coach, they're building something packaging picks or stockpiling picks. Just had a great draft, get three first rounders next year. But it fact I was like, well Dante didn't want to. Maybe it's arch and I don't know. Well, the Mannings, I don't know. It was a conversation we had. It was interesting.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, it's interesting and I get it and I think if you're in that situation. But I, the Dante Moore situation, I understand him not wanting to go there and maybe that played a role in him going back. I do, I think watching this draft I do feel a little bit better about what the jets are doing. I do feel.
Daniel Jeremiah
Absolutely.
Bucky Brooks
And there's some interesting things here that I'm hesitant to get into. But what they've done in this draft, what they have in terms of firepower for next draft and in this situation, by the way, they only, they don't give up anything. We, we said, we've talked about all these assets they've accumulated to make sure they can get their quarterback. Well here they're picking first of. What are they picking? Sorry. Yeah, first overall. They don't have to use any of that so they can get even more players. Right, Right. You like what they're doing all those things. The one thing I will be hesitant about and you can shut it down really quickly if you want. I wonder if the head coach is going to be part of the, the conversation of whether or not a quarterback is going to be comfortable going there. And I really like Aaron Glenn, but would you rather a. An offense coordinator, play caller turned into a head coach? It's kind of become the thing with a Ben Johnson type higher. Would that make it more appealing to them?
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. And Frank Reich is there and what are.
Bucky Brooks
You know what I mean?
Daniel Jeremiah
It's interesting because you really like your options are you get drafted and you go to the team like 99.99999999% of the people who have or you say I'm not playing that organization and you force a trade, but there's the option to not force a trade and they Just own your rights for a year. Yeah. I don't want to make today about that conversation. I just, I thought it was interesting that like for the first time ever doing this, I was like, could there be.
Bucky Brooks
Do you feel different about the jets today?
Daniel Jeremiah
100.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, me too. I think I want to be fair about to that Jets. I also think, you know, like, I'm not, I'm not criticizing Aaron Glenn as a head coach. I just think that maybe that might be part of what this, it could be a part of the process, I think is who's going to be the head coach and whether or not it's going to be an offensive minded or
Daniel Jeremiah
are we comfortable with that offensive coordinator and whatever it is. This is a kind of an important year and Frank Reich has been in the league forever and Frank Reich is beloved and he's had a lot of success.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
But it's important to show where this is progressing. But again, I don't envision Arch is the son of, the grandson of, not the son of. And this is not going to be, you know, and, and I don't, I don't, I don't expect there to be any problem there. And Dante Moore I think is going to look at this situation, be a lot more excited about, about that than maybe he was coming into this year. And quite frankly, Dante Moore needed to go back to school. Dante Moore was not ready. You saw the difference between Fernando Mendoza in 2024 compared to the end of 2025 season.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, it was different human being.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. We said he's a day two pick ascending to could be a first rounder. We see it in him. But at the end of this year, that Ohio State game, I didn't need to see the rest of the year. I was like, I'm all in. It's going to be a fun ride.
Bucky Brooks
Can I talk about Sellers for one second, please? Lenora Sellers is as talented as anyone in, in, in the country. I mean he's that good arm strength, mobility. His strength as a runner, not only his mobility and his in the way he runs, but the way he can break tackles and get out of sacks. Here's my concern with Lenora Sellers, and we started to see it last year, is he's the kind of guy that wants to put his team on the team on his back and go win games and make plays. And there's a, and that's great when it's in the right, when it's used in the right way. South Carolina's gotten into a situation now where it's caused. It's, it's creating bad habits because for an order for him to make like he's not getting enough pass protection. So now he's, he's not really getting through his reads. He's getting out of the pocket before he needs to. It's, it's starting to break down around him. It's, it's things like that that concern me. It might cause when you look at his tape to be like, wow, there's a lot we're going to have to fix and that's understandable. But I think if you put him in the right situation and you watch what Cleveland's doing, another like we just talked about the Jets. I love what Cleveland did in this draft and about addressing their offensive line, their receivers and tight end. If you put him in that situation with the right supporting cast, I think Lenore Sellers could absolutely take off. And I mean well, he's as good as, I really believe he's as good as anyone in this draft.
Daniel Jeremiah
It's important to note too that Mike Shula is, is out as offensive coordinator and in comes Kendall Briles and kind of that pay tempo. Yeah, it's not a ton NFL, right. But that, that times have changed. Right.
Bucky Brooks
Some of the tape is tough to watch from last year for Sellers just because it is. He's running for his life, man.
Daniel Jeremiah
And so you know, Bryce comes in informal most recently at tcu, but obviously Baylor with his dad and Houston and he's been a bunch of places I'm trying to think Florida Atlantic, Houston, Florida State. So he's bounced around but he's had a lot of always high powered offenses and they got Nick harbor coming back and they've got an offensive tackle. So this is obviously a monster year for him. But I think it's important to note the gap between those top two and, and Sellers. I, I don't know. It's interesting. I, I think a lot of teams I've talked to seem to think like he's firmly there and then we get into the Julian saying, right, let's see that elevation this year. C.J. carr, Notre Dame. Let's see if he can take it to another level as a lot of people expect and I'm thrilled to see it if that's indeed the case. Sam Levitt, great 24 season as kind of a pup last season dealing with some injuries and things going on at Arizona State, not as great. And then this year he transfers to LSU and he's with Lane Kiffin and everyone's like, wait for it, you know.
Bucky Brooks
Right.
Daniel Jeremiah
So Jackson Dart two years ago, Trinidad Chambliss. Chambliss is in the mix talking to NFL teams. That's legit. So yeah, let's throw up the top 10 here real quick. Let's take a look at the top 10. As you can see, it's Manning to the jets at one, Jeremiah Smith to Miami at two. Dante Moore number three going to the Cardinals. Cleveland number four takes Lenora Sellers. Then you kind of get some position players. Before we get back to the quarterbacks. Tennessee, we take Jordan, Jordan Seaton, there's a handful of offensive tackles. He's the one that people are projecting is going to make that big leap this year. We'll see. Then we get these edges, man. It was interesting getting, getting feedback from NFL teams. Some teams are like hot like Dylan Stewart and then Collins and other teams are like what Simmons. And so there's kind of the 1, 2 punch going in at the edge position. Both top 10 prospects expecting big years out of them. Simmons from Texas, Stewart from South Carolina. Then back to the quarterbacks, three in a row. And that's why I brought it here. C.J. carr, as I mentioned Sam Levitt and Julian saying there's some interesting stuff here.
Bucky Brooks
Obviously Pittsburgh makes sense to me. C.J. carr, you get your quarterback, they need one. So Carolina and Atlanta, we have some young quarterbacks there, but what's this exercise tells us if they're picking 9 and 10, it's time to make a change.
Daniel Jeremiah
That's the hard part of this because we're just going off of the odds in reverse of what could happen. I don't necessarily agree. Honestly the biggest surprise on this way too early mock draft is if Carolina's picking at 9 next year. I think Dan Morgan has done a sensational job. I think they're going to be a playoff team this year. I really do. I think they're the team to beat in the South.
Bucky Brooks
I would agree.
Daniel Jeremiah
I think, I think they're a better football team than Tampa Bay right now and they proved it at the end of the. So I'd be shocked by that. But I have to go off this information if Carolina's picking at nine now we're entering that fifth year and I can't afford paying what, 60 something million dollars a year to a quarterback when we're picking at nine. Right. So that's the information. And honestly remove the teams to a certain degree at this point. It's just important to get to show the depth of this quarterback class we have got. And sorsby was removed due to the eligibility concerns.
Bucky Brooks
Right.
Daniel Jeremiah
In recent. As we talked about earlier, we've got three in the top four, and then we've got another three in the top 10. So that's six in the top 10. We're talking about the 2024 class. How exceptional it was. It was six in the top 12. And then we get Darian Mensah sitting at 12th. Okay. And to the Minnesota Vikings. And quite honestly, we could have thrown another name or two in. So Josh Hoover, how does he. Trinidad Chambliss would be the first on the list after that. Josh Hoover, does he have a monster year at Indiana? Answer is probably yes. Jaden Maiva from usc. He. He's got all the tools.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
This Drew Messamaker. I'm excited to see him now at a higher level. After North Texas last year. Pointed Oklahoma State, the transfer people are really high on him. John Mattier, I'm not saying first round, but John Mattier, let's see him back with his thumb, man. It helps to have a thumb as a quarterback. Nico. Nico Iamaliava from ucla. I get it. The Tennessee debacle, transfers all the problems, the money, this and that. And yet last year was up and down. I promise you. Teams are keeping a close. And I told you this in, like, October last year. The NFL's view of Emaliava is different than the public perception. Okay.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. So could we wrap up the quarterback soon? I want to ask you one last quarterback thing.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
Are you. Do you have trauma from the 2026 class about doing this?
Daniel Jeremiah
Hell, no.
Bucky Brooks
You just. You're just going to go right. You're going to go right back into it.
Daniel Jeremiah
Have you met me? Yeah. I don't. Like. I have a lot of flaws, and this is probably one of them, too. This is one of the flaws. Like, take my at bats, man, shoot or shoot.
Bucky Brooks
But we also feel more confident about this class than we did about last year's.
Daniel Jeremiah
Not even close.
Bucky Brooks
At this point in time.
Daniel Jeremiah
Not even close. I thought those guys were really, really good quarterbacks. I thought they were all. You got to remember.
Bucky Brooks
You were waiting for them to take the next step. These guys are kind of.
Daniel Jeremiah
These guys are a different tier. Majority of them are like, yeah. I mean, Nussmeier had an awesome season in 2024. It wasn't as good as Saiyans last year at Ohio State.
Bucky Brooks
Right, Right.
Daniel Jeremiah
You know what I mean?
Bucky Brooks
Yeah, No, I hear you. That's.
Daniel Jeremiah
Klubnick was ascending. It was starting to carry that team. But remember, they struggled a lot early on and it was like some long runs and competitiveness and I thought he was going to. But none of them were. None of them were what what men has done or what what some what what C.J. carr showed, you know, certainly what Sellers had. So yeah, it's different. It's so different. This episode is brought to you by Men's Warehouse. On the lookout for new clothes. It doesn't have to feel overwhelming. Just check out Men's Wearhouse. They've got you covered for every occasion with a huge variety of clothing and styles. If you've got a formal event, they've got tailored clothing like suits, sports coats and dress shirts and tuxes. Then for relaxing in front of the game, they've got your polos, shirts, shorts and jeans for everyday wear. And if you're not sure what your look is, the Men's Wearhouse experts can guide you while their on site tailors guarantee your clothes fit your body perfectly. Men's wearhouse has over 600 locations nationwide. They are here and nearby. When you're ready to love the way you look. It's time to refresh your yard during Spring Backyard Days at the Home Depot.
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Daniel Jeremiah
That's why when you drink Jagermeister, you
Bucky Brooks
drink it ice cold. Anything else? Well, that'd just be bad luck. Drink it cold or don't drink it at all.
Daniel Jeremiah
Jagermeister.
Bucky Brooks
Damn, that's cold.
Daniel Jeremiah
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Bucky Brooks
Jagermeister U.S. white Plains, New York. Let's talk about the best player in the draft.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
Bucky Brooks
Jeremiah Smith.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes.
Bucky Brooks
I'm gonna ask you a couple questions here.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yes, sir.
Bucky Brooks
Smith or Marvin Harrison Jr. Smith. Smith or Jamar Chase?
Daniel Jeremiah
Smith.
Bucky Brooks
Smith or A.J. green?
Daniel Jeremiah
Son of a.
Bucky Brooks
If you think that one's hard.
Daniel Jeremiah
Smith.
Bucky Brooks
Smith or Calvin Johnson?
Daniel Jeremiah
Calvin. Okay.
Bucky Brooks
All right. So that's where we're at. You think he's the best since Calvin Smith over.
Daniel Jeremiah
Over neighbors. Smith over Chase. Smith over Cooper.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
No question on all Harrison. Harrison Jr. And neighbors were 24. Chase was 21. Amari Cooper was 15. Sammy Watkins was 14.
Bucky Brooks
Not even close.
Daniel Jeremiah
These were all top 10 wide receivers and most of them were top.
Bucky Brooks
A.J.
Daniel Jeremiah
green went four in 2011. Julio Jones went six.
Bucky Brooks
Right about Julio. I'm glad you brought up Julio. So you would have him. You'd have Jeremiah ahead of Julio.
Daniel Jeremiah
I had AJ Green ahead of Julio that year. Identical grades. I remember. I want to say it was like a 96 grade. I think Calvin Johnson was like a 98 or 97. I got to go back historically and look, I need to know that number. I used to grade higher when I was a kid. Shut up. No, I swear. You go back and look at our grades and they've come down. No, when I would. When I was 25 to. To 28 or something like that, like the grades were higher. I was at a more optimistic view on the world and started hanging out with mention Marissa.
Bucky Brooks
So let's, let's actually like, let's talk about that for a second though, right now.
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm joking, by the way. I love you too, very much.
Bucky Brooks
Right now you have Smith right behind Calvin Johnson.
Daniel Jeremiah
That's it.
Bucky Brooks
This is wild, by the way, just to say that. Do you think he could s. Surpass him with a. With a great season, a great workout?
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm not, I'm not totally ruling.
Bucky Brooks
Runs the gamut here and he just kills it.
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm not totally ruling it out. Yeah. I swear.
Bucky Brooks
I think he could be the best receiver of all time.
Daniel Jeremiah
I literally think he could be the best wide receiver of all time.
Bucky Brooks
Of all time. Joel Clatt said that to us a year ago and said that this kid could be.
Daniel Jeremiah
He could be the best wide receiver in the history of the National Football League. Jeremiah Smith could be. I want you to think about that. I'm fired up. And now he has a quarterback in his second year, and yet all the coverage in the world is going to be all over him. But he'll get his spots and I can't wait to see him in the league. I'm telling you, if he's not the. I don't care what your need is, so long as it's not quarterback. And so if, if it is quarter, I don't know, you get down to like this fourth, fourth, fifth quarterback in this class, are you better off taking Jeremiah Smith over the quarterback? It's absurd.
Bucky Brooks
So we're talking about that. We're talking about a Sam Levitt from lsu. Would you take the. If you are the Carolina pants or they just took a wide receiver. Maybe that's a bad example. Atlanta maybe is a better example. Would you take. There's no way he's going to be there, dude.
Daniel Jeremiah
No, there's no way.
Bucky Brooks
There's no way.
Daniel Jeremiah
But what if.
Bucky Brooks
Silly.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah, it is silly. He's going to be the first. If he's not the first positional player taken outside of quarterback, I'll be blown away.
Bucky Brooks
I will be stunned.
Daniel Jeremiah
Something would have to happen weirdly between now and then. If nothing changes between now and then, how do you not take what projects to be if. If not the. Then Calvin Johnson. So what.
Bucky Brooks
What makes him great?
Daniel Jeremiah
His. Have you ever stood next to him in person? Have you stood next to him?
Bucky Brooks
Yes. Okay. I'm sure that's an experience.
Daniel Jeremiah
It is an experience. And then you watch the way he moves. And then on top of that, the physicality that he has, which is the most underrated aspect of playing that position in the NFL. So you've got. It's like a thoroughbred racehorse. Like. And then the way he moves at that size. And the unbelievable part is how. How refined he is as a route runner. The little things he does on tape, it's wild. Like setting guys up with the leverages of his route, the stem, the tempoing of his stem, the way he gets defensive. And I'm not talking turned around. Oh, look at that great cut. I'm talking about the little nuanced things that he does. Oh, and then the ball's in the air and that wingspan. And good luck getting through him without getting a 15 yard penalty. Okay, good luck. What can't he do?
Bucky Brooks
That's. That's the whole thing.
Daniel Jeremiah
And then. And. Oh, and then he came, by the way. Now you catch it with. With one step and he goes. And the vertical ability. I don't know what he can't do.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. It's. It's as if you took like.
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, and he cares. He. He actually, like, is a. He loves this game.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
And is not committed to, like, biggest bank account and what it provides for me. Talk to people in Columbus. He wants to be the greatest to ever do this. Not because of what it brings, but he knows it's in him. So he's gonna go get it.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
That's what, like, Chris Carter was the biggest dog I ever. Talking to him after his career, spending time with him. Randy Moss, the way he. Chris kind of helped raise Randy. Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
We saw them practice Very early in our career, we saw those two practices together. It was amazing.
Daniel Jeremiah
Calvin, I spent some time with Calvin. Like, he, like, they, They're. They're different, yes, physically, but, like, there's a. There's a. A yearning to be Michael Jordan. There's a yearning to be. And I know there's not the right time for this, but Tiger woods at his craft to be Kobe. Like, they. All these guys have this, this something that burns inside him, and that's different, and he's got that, too. So, like, I answer you with all those things, then I ask back, like, what doesn't he have?
Bucky Brooks
That's true. Guys that big aren't that naturally coordinated. Like, it's just easy. Easy to him. And you hit on it. I just want to reinforce it. When you go to grad school for receivers, that you go to Ohio State, that's grad school for receivers. It is the, it is the best program for wide receiver to go to. Sorry to all the other schools out there. And I know Heartline just left for South Florida, but it is still the best place to go. I mean, there's nothing here. There's nothing like, I want to, like, point to, like, issues. And when we get into the tape more, I'm sure we're going to nitpick something, but this kid is. I don't. This is. Everyone's excited about the quarterbacks, and I get it. This kid is. What I think really makes this class different is because we're. We're looking at a truly, truly generational talent.
Daniel Jeremiah
You can get the full mock draft if you subscribe to the McShay report. Okay. So go to theringer.com mcshay and you can access it there. You can also Google the McShay Report and subscribe. That's where you're going to get the. The way to early mock draft. We're excited to share it before we let the folks go. Before I let you go to Vegas, before I. You can find Marissa on the coast of California somewhere. If you can narrow it down, good luck. If not, we'll see you next week. When you read this.
Bucky Brooks
Yes.
Daniel Jeremiah
Was there a name that you were even. You were kind of. Huh. That's interesting.
Bucky Brooks
Well, two things that are interesting. Okay. We'll give you a name that, like, I didn't expect to see there, and I'll talk to you about that in a second. But what's going to happen with all these quarterbacks going is really talented positional players are going to get pushed down the board and that's what all these. These. These mock drafts are just scenarios, exercises, and what could happen. Right. And one of the receivers, and I'm not going to go into where they landed, but I was surprised to see how far they went, and it wasn't super far. Let me be clear about that. Is Auburn transfer new Texas wide receiver Cam Coleman, who I think you talked about A.J. green and Julio Jones.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
Bucky Brooks
I'm not saying it's 1A, 1B like it was that year. Okay. I'm not saying that. Cam Coleman can do some different things, man. He is a big receiver who can run and can make some plays downfield. And when he's right and when he gets on a roll, he is scary for defenses. So he fell a little bit farther than. Than I expected.
Daniel Jeremiah
Well, you want to talk about, like, resources for Arch, too? You bring in Cam Coleman.
Bucky Brooks
Oh, no.
Daniel Jeremiah
You still got Ryan Wingo.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
Right.
Bucky Brooks
He's an interesting cat to watch, too. Yep. I mean, you're 100, right? The a tight end made it in the Texas two.
Daniel Jeremiah
Two of them.
Bucky Brooks
The Texas Tech titan is the one that caught my attention.
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay.
Bucky Brooks
I really like him, actually.
Daniel Jeremiah
The.
Bucky Brooks
The other titan is. I'll just say this really quickly, is the LSU trade as Green. I love him because of his body and the. The frame and his catch radius. And like, the way they use them at LSU is the way they're going to use them in. In the pros, I think, which is like, create favorable matchups in the slot out wide in the red zone. I mean, trying to match up one on one with this dude in the red zone is like, good luck. I mean, trying to regard Wemby in the NBA, you're like, you're not going to do it. But Terrence Carter from Texas Tech, who I really like to run after, the catch guy, he can get open a little bit. I thought first round, maybe a little bit early, but I do like the player. So that's. That's a guy that maybe I didn't
Daniel Jeremiah
have any intention of putting him in there. I view him more as a day two guy, and he very well could be, you know.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
But late in the first, I wind up throwing him in there. And I did it because I. It surprised me and I kind of want to share it with the audience. I think Jamari Johnson from Oregon is the guy that if you look around the interweb, you're going to find is like the top tight end in this class. It's not right now. That's not the same. National Football League has A different view on it.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
So the top two guys that. Getting responses from people in the league and I appreciate everyone who got back to me. This is. I view it as a service. Let's not give false hope to as many prospects out there that we can avoid giving like the wrong information to. That's the purpose I'm trying to serve here. Okay.
Bucky Brooks
Love it.
Daniel Jeremiah
So Terence Carter, though it was green and Carter for teams. But also. But I want to make it clear, like Jamar Johnson was in there. Lucky Lawson from Georgia was another name in the running. Yep. So it's going to be an interesting tight end class as we're seeing tight ends back in vogue. Man, we saw that run that happened on the second day. Yeah. So I. I'm in. Here's what I'm excited about. Are you anything else?
Bucky Brooks
I'm good, man. I think this is a. It's, you know, I feel good about this one. I think you did a good job. And again, it's not for lack of effort. It's just this is an impossible exercise and it's fun.
Daniel Jeremiah
It is. But everyone else getting the help of some people in the league, like, I feel better about it and I think everyone's kind of. Here's what I know. I have never in 26 years talked to NFL teams at this point in the year and felt so much excitement to talk about the 2027 draft. Not necessarily indictment on the 2026 draft. It's just like, holy smokes, are we kidding? Like, you kidding me? I just rattled off like seven quarterbacks, man, that like could fight their way in. And by the way, Jaden Daniels was like a third to fifth round prospect.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
The year before.
Bucky Brooks
Who's that guy this year? Who's the guy who's in the.
Daniel Jeremiah
Mendoza was a day two prospect before. Cam Ward was like a fifth coming out of Washington State after transferring there from Incarnate Ward the year before Miami. Right. So there's going to be another guy that just goes this year. So. But it's not. This is the important part because I think all the focus has been on quarterback. I'm talking about two guys that are going to battle it out at edge. Rusher and Simmons and Dylan Stewart. Right. We're talking about like five offensive tackles that are really, really good. From Seaton at LSU down to Goolsbee at Texas. No, at. Yeah, yeah, Texas. Sorry, Texas. There's just the wide receivers you just mentioned. Like we're talking about the. Maybe the greatest of all time up there with the Calvin Johnson's and Jeremiah Smith. But then Mensch told you it's, it's we get Cam Coleman. Cam Coleman. Also teams are higher on Deuce Robinson than people think. The big Florida statewide TJ Moore. Mention Ryan Wingo. We're going to see something from T.J. moore from Clemson. Also Wesco from Clemson.
Bucky Brooks
Does Ryan Williams have a Ryan Coleman?
Daniel Jeremiah
Williams is still high on teams boards despite what happened at the end of last year. Threw another name on there with an apostrophe. We got a whole new version of him this year. We're fired up. This is going to be the best 359 day run leading up to a draft that I've ever experienced and we're pumped to share it all with you. The show will be back next week. We were already talking about the production schedule for this year. Again you can fall to not Forget about the 2026 draft. All of our scouting reports are there. You can go back and keep checking there. Theringer.com McShay the McShay report will continue to come out as we provide the premium content and my gosh, are we going to have a lot of it.
Bucky Brooks
Can't wait.
Daniel Jeremiah
It's been an awesome run. We appreciate everyone. We're going to take a few days off now, men. She's going to come. Noodle. Don't tell him he's going to dead or Widespread. He's going to see fish, man. Right?
Bucky Brooks
Yep.
Daniel Jeremiah
Tell me, give, give, give the folks like one minute on what you're fired up about.
Bucky Brooks
I've never been in the sphere. I mean I've seen fish everywhere. I've, I've gone to almost. I mean I've traveled the country watching fish. So I'm at the Hollywood bowl last year. Then they came to like basically my hometown for three shows. Went to all three. Yeah, I'm excited man. But the sphere is what's going to be different. I mean those, I've seen some of the visuals that have been coming out. I try to stay away but when you're on Instagram they just start rolling in. It's insane.
Daniel Jeremiah
I'm, I got to get there for a show.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
Not, not fish.
Bucky Brooks
But first I got to tell you man, there are so many people who just want, want McShay at official.
Daniel Jeremiah
We can do it.
Bucky Brooks
We should do it.
Daniel Jeremiah
Okay.
Bucky Brooks
Last year I had my buddy Chris was, he was, he was texting during the show being like, Sammy Kaufman's coming. Yeah. Sam Kaufman's Stevens.
Daniel Jeremiah
Alex Stevens.
Bucky Brooks
Yeah. But yeah, I have people texting me like we got tickets in Colorado if you guys want to come.
Daniel Jeremiah
Oh, man, can you imagine?
Bucky Brooks
We should go to the Gorge, though. The Gorge is one place I haven't.
Daniel Jeremiah
I would do the gorgeous.
Bucky Brooks
That is absolutely gorgeous. And they supposedly put on.
Daniel Jeremiah
I love music, man. I, I was already texting Client. I want to go to Glastonbury. I want to like camp out for a few days. I love all I just can't get into. But you know what?
Bucky Brooks
We're going to. It's like Coachella with Tucker. We're going to do that sometime.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah. Stagecoach maybe too. We got a lot to do this summer, man. We appreciate everyone's support. We appreciate everyone behind the scenes who has helped us. We've. We've given all the names and thanked everybody. But I, I can't begin to express my appreciation in this time of year. How grateful I am for the people who have given everything to make sure that we have the best support possible to provide you with the content that hopefully you've come to enjoy. So we'll, we'll be back next week and until then, hope you guys have as much fun as Mention is about to go have and hope for. For those who are tired, have as much rest and enjoyment as I'm about to go have for a few days. So appreciate it. Oh, Mitch. Five stars.
Bucky Brooks
Thanks, man.
Daniel Jeremiah
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Episode: The Way-Too-Early 2027 Mock Draft: Arch Manning Vs. Dante Moore
Host: Todd McShay (with Steve Muench and Bucky Brooks guest hosting, plus Daniel Jeremiah in this special episode)
Main Theme: Breaking down Todd McShay’s “way-too-early” 2027 NFL mock draft, with a focus on a potential Arch Manning vs. Dante Moore quarterback debate, and a deep look at the most exciting prospects for the 2027 NFL Draft.
The episode dives into the annual “way-too-early” mock draft for the 2027 NFL season, presented as a fun but serious look ahead at college football’s future stars. Todd McShay, along with cohosts and draft analysts (especially Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks), scrutinizes the projected top picks, discusses lessons learned from the previous year’s predictions, and debates the outlook for top prospects—particularly quarterbacks Arch Manning (Texas) and Dante Moore (Oregon). The consensus: the 2027 class has the “juice” and depth lacking in 2026, with a potential generational wide receiver in Jeremiah Smith.
“Arch is bigger, Arch is more mobile… here's the deal with Arch, man… there was a residual. You could see, his mechanics weren't the same, but Oklahoma game, we saw some flashes...this is what we expected.” – Daniel Jeremiah (16:04–17:23)
“Dante's a better pure passer and had some ups and downs this year...but the first thing you hear from every scout...is this guy is mature beyond his years.” – Todd McShay (18:34–18:51)
“If it's not Arch or Dante, it’s a stunner.” – Daniel Jeremiah (15:49)
“Smith… could be the best wide receiver in the history of the National Football League.” – Todd McShay (36:34–36:39)
“Shooters shoot.” – Todd McShay on owning his bold predictions, undeterred by past mistakes (31:02)
The episode wraps on a lively and optimistic note: this 2027 class, led by high-end QBs and the transcendent Jeremiah Smith, has the makings of something special—even if projecting college talent 12 months out is always a gamble. The hosts hint at even more in-depth breakdowns, updated projections, and behind-the-scenes stories to come as the college season unfolds.
For Todd’s full mock draft and exclusive analysis, visit theringer.com/mcshay and subscribe to The McShay Report.