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I think both of those stats are wild, to be honest with you.
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Yeah, I know. Yeah.
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These two teams would have faced off at some point, but obviously not. And then they were in the Big 12. Oklahoma was in the Big 12, so that it was still a possibility. But wow. By the way, no, I'm excited to see where you want to go with this Michigan offense, but your boy Portnoy got himself a quarterback.
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Oh, my gosh. We'll get started on that. Let's quick thing right off the top, though. We're a week away. We're taping this real late Wednesday night. It's going to air Thursday morning. So it'll be less than a week. When people are watching this, we've got a live show. I want to remind folks, a live show in Chicago. If you're in the Chicago area, you got to come see us. It's going to be an intimate setting in at Lincoln hall, right in Chicago. I was on with our friends Spiegel and Holmes today. 670 the score in Chicago. Getting some buzz going. Mensch. My brother in law sends a text today. He's. He travels all over the place. He's an I. T. Consultant. He doesn't know about I. T. Yeah, Jeff, I'm talking to you. But at least in his own home, dude is what I'm told. Oh, the best dude, you know, Jeff? Yeah, he's walking by the Lincoln hall today. What's it say outside?
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Oh, no way.
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The McShay show next week. All right, so. So we're gonna be there. We got everyone the speed going home show. They're sending four, four members of the group there, excited to see them and everybody else. It's intimate. We'll probably shake everyone's hand there. We'll take questions as long as you guys want to ask questions. We'll hang around after the show and talk. So it'll be fun. If you guys like the show at all. You probably don't like me that much. I'm annoying and I talk too much. But you know, you like the big guy here. And our special guest from Chicago, he's walking from his home in Chicago to Lincoln hall. He lives that close. The big cat from barstool. And you know what, when, when barstool was like Portnoy was living with his, his in laws in their basement almost going bankrupt. Barstool was like struggling. I was there for barstool. I was timing them 40s and doing their vertical jumps and their three phone. People need to Go, shuttles.
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Watch that.
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That. We had our first ever barstool combine, 102 degree temperatures. So I was there in the beginning, and here we are in the beginning, not even a year into our show. And barstool is gonna, Big Cat is gonna pay it back. He's pumped, man. He's all in on this thing. He's promoting the out of it. He's asking me today to send graphics. I'm plucking pictures of him to go on our graphics for the McShay show. So it's, it's, it's kind of like, you know, full circle. Family's all back, and we're ready to roll. So hopefully you guys will be there to join us. And we're talking about this Michigan, Oklahoma game. Let's jump into it right now. Mitch, let's go. But I want to remind folks, the best thing we do, the most fun thing for us, at least that we do all year long, is the Saturday Night Live reaction shows. There's a link up on the, on YouTube, the McShay show page right now. You can go click it to get a reminder. We're going to come up. We came on with, like, four, three, four minutes left in the Clemson, LSU game. Little technical difficulty on my side. Want to get on maybe like, five, seven minutes left of game time this week in the Oklahoma, Michigan game. So make sure you come join us live there. All right, Housekeeping's done. I gave you my nuggets on that game. Let's just jump right in. Let's go. I just finished up watching Underwood. Let me start with this. And I, I, I send out stuff like, I'm not on the chats. I'm not, like, I'm not in the chat rooms. And I, I get it that if you, if you're an Ann Arbor person and you were. What if you were, like, talking Michigan and Underwood all week, you, you probably heard about this play. But when you watch Tate and you see something happen that's not like, oh, he's got a big arm. He's getting the ball out. He's showing a lot of poise. All those things you watch something happen in the game that, like, you don't expect. I just, I sent it out, like, literally 15, 20 minutes ago on, On X and Threads. There's a play where he hands the ball off. And his running back, Justice Haynes, who had a monster day, by the way.
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Yeah.
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Haynes was 16 for 153 and three touchdowns. The Alabama transfer in that system, Chip, Lindsay, like, that's A good fit.
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I. I can't wait to get into that.
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Yeah. But anyway, so he hands the ball off, there's a little, like, stutter step. Underwood goes out and starts to go see if he can lead block on the play. Sees a linebacker. I think it was a linebacker or safety. Flash little crack back, whings Haynes for a touchdown. And I'm like, all right. Because I like, listen, five star, multi million dollar D nil deal, all world recruit. You've had choices between here and LSU and every other major program. And so you wonder sometimes about, like, the character, like the football character. Not if, but like, is he gonna protect himself? Is he like this primadonna?
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Right, right.
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That play, I was like, I kind of like this guy.
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Can I add one thing to that? I saw the play. It. I completely agree with you. I saw that play. But you notice what he did after he completed his first pass? He threw like a little. He threw a little bubble out to the left. Go back and watch this on tape because I love it. There was a little bubble out to the left. It's maybe a 6, 7 yard gain. Great drive starter, by the way.
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We're just gonna get it rolling.
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We're gonna get him, you know, get him greased up. He's gonna be, you know, get him going. It's just a little bubble. He completes it and he. He raises his hands like this. I was like, dude, that's like an eight yard gain.
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He's like, touchdown. He's like, we're out the gate.
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And immediately I thought, I was like, this kid's playing, you know, first game, lot of pressure. He's going to be the savior of the, of the Michigan program, all of this stuff. And all I thought was he's out there playing with joy. Like, he's got some joy to him. He seems happy, he seems light. I was like, right away, it was a good vibe. And some people might be like, you might be reading too much into that.
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No, I like that. Relax, dude.
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It's an eight yard gain. I. I thought it was great. I was like, here's this young kid out here throwing a bubble.
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Kind of like the high school energy. Right?
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Right.
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It was.
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I thought it was kind of, you know, I just thought it was great.
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So he missed the seam throwing that first drive. Right. You remember, he wasn't perfect. Wasn't. No, no, no. I know. I'm just. But like, you look for little things in a first start from a young man with all this hype. Right? He misses that. He's rolling to his right. His momentum's got him going a little too fast to the right. Receiver flashes open off the play Action scene. Throw just completely mails it. Air mails it right. Then Justice Haynes, he hands the ball off to on like a delayed inside zone kind of. He had the receiver coming back kind of like a zone count. Inside zone counter. Haynes takes to the house, 56 yards. Touchdown juice. That was. That was like the six play on offense. Right comes back. And the thing I appreciated about him is like really poised. I didn't see a guy made mistakes, but not critical errors. Didn't make, you know, a freshman, true freshman, like two or three, like real critical errors that I saw. But. But like carried himself with a lot of poise throughout the game. The highs weren't too high, the lows weren't too low. I thought the velocity just jumped out. To me, there were three.
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I will say there's two things and cut me off if you were gonna. I don't know what is gonna be here. There was two things for me. There was throws that he made that I was like, that's ridiculous. That's just ridiculous. The talent to make that kind of a throw. So the. The tools jumped out. But when you talk about that poise, I want. I want to put people in the game situation because I don't know if a lot of people watch Michigan, New Mexico, that game was 17 to nothing. Michigan jumped out to 17 to nothing. And then New Mexico started to climb back. They got to 17 to 10 and it was near the end of the first half. That's a situation. I think a lot of people are saying, let's just ride out the half. Let's get back into the locker room, we'll talk to the young quarterback, especially when you get a third and 14. But Michigan got third and 14 and they put the ball right in their young quarterback's hands. And he threw an absolute dart for first down. And he leads Michigan down for score. That changes it from 7 to 14. I think he throws a. A 15 yard pass to Marlon Klein, the tight end, who I think we should talk about too. Yep, a nice touch pass to Marlon Klein for a touchdown. Now they're going into the half up 14. I think people are breathing a little bit easier and not as worried about this. Maybe this gritty New Mexico team kind of, you know, keep it close and making it interesting.
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I mean, I think a.
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Tell me if I'm wrong. I think a lot of programs would have said, we're just going to pack it in. We're going to down it. We got a pretty good defense. We're just going to go into the half up seven. We'll regroup then. And instead they stayed aggressive. They got down the field and they scored. And I thought he showed a lot of poise and the way he handled. By the way, no turnovers in this game either.
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I know there was some.
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There were some mistakes in terms of decisions, I think, but no turnovers in this game. He took care of the ball for the most part.
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And they believe in him. To your point, obviously, you can tell they believe in him. He believes in his ability, but he didn't play outside of himself in the, you know, in the first game. Yes, the opponent. I get it. And we're going to Norman now. I like. I get all those things. I like the decisiveness, the lightning quick release off of, like, the RPO game. I thought, like, pretty good mechanics for a true freshman. I honestly was like, I don't know what to expect with this young man. I'm not watching the spring game and all that. I've seen, like, some of the high school clips. It's just not like we're doing a lot of other things in the spring where, like, the NFL draft's kind of a big deal in our world, but you never know what to expect with a guy who's unbelievably talented. And you hear dual threat and all this stuff, and you're like, well, you know, we've seen a lot of guys come in and they're just, like, kind of sloppy, but they just run around, make plays. He's not that. He's a big kind of sound, poised, seemingly mature. We'll find. We'll. We'll find out Norman. Prime time game. Herb street follow. Like, we're gonna find out Norman. But, like, really promising start from. From where I sat watching the tape, and I was like, I know he can run, but he didn't have to do a lot of that. And I'm sure by design in the opener. I'm excited to see how much more we see. Yeah. How it evolves with him in his ability.
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Perfect example that we should talk about Chip Lindsay a little more in detail. But they had a play. A play design. I thought Chip Lindsay, man, I. I'm not really familiar with his scheme. I am. After one game of watching that, I was like, I. I love what they're doing. I mean, in love with what they're doing. They had one where you technically call it 20 personnel, where you would have two backs in the Backfield, but the slot was so deep that he was basically in like another back. He was even with the backfield, even though he like a slot. Alignment, alignment, alignment. But they just ran power, right. The fullback led for the running back, but if you watch the way the play develops, there's an RPO action off of it. It was clear that it was predetermined that it was going to go power. Right. But if he keeps that ball, he can now turn and run or kind of flip it to the slot. Like you saw with Arch Manning in that play where he ran out to his left and he zipped it out to the receiver. They have that action off of it. So they didn't.
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It was clear they weren't going to.
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Do that in this game. But you can see the seeds of where they might want to go. And when you see his creativity, when you see Lindsay's creativity and see what he's doing, man, I mean, this was a great start. And then you can see where it could go and how it could develop and it's is exciting.
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Yeah, I like Lindsay. Like, I think we're only 51 years old, 27 years in balls. Been a head coach, offensive coordinator at multiple places. Was at UNC with, with Drake. May not considered like the most NFL friendly offense, but very effective college offense. And the thing that I like about this fit, right is you've got Sherrod Moore with the offensive line coaching and like the Harbaugh remnants of, you know, like the tight ends and like throwback but like creative with the run game but kind of, you know.
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Oh, Michigan, still Michigan.
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The DNA, Michigan. It's still the DNA, but it's like welcome to the new millennium and the new, like the 20, 20 twenties, you know. Yeah, that. It's a nice little blend.
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Yeah. I love the way he used. He used motion to get receivers involved in the running game and then create favorable angles for receivers that were blocking in the box. I thought the motion was great. The. I love orbit motions where they bring the back around in the backfield and then you fake the handoff and you throw it back to the back. It's just a lot for the defense to think about. There's a lot of moving parts without, by the way, making it super complicated for your young quarterback. Even some of their formation shifts. They didn't do a lot of this in the game, but they did it a couple times. I think I1 really stood out to me where they'll come out and, and. And make it look like it's a Spread set. And then all of a sudden the tight ends come in tight and you. It looks more like a traditional 12 personnel run, heavy set. You know, that's not something that's going to be very taxing on your young quarterback, but it will give the defense a different look and force them to adjust to how they line up. I just, I thought he had a. I thought Lindsay had a great game. I thought he put him. His. He put Underwood in a great position to succeed the whole. The whole game.
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Yeah. And we're again, like, we're going to find out a lot like the run game is there. Like Justice Haynes, kind of all downhill. Got some juice, fits what they're doing. Omar, Omari and Hampton had great success, right?
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Yep.
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And I'm not saying Justice Haynes is. Is to that level, obviously, but the Alabama transfer comes in, another big back, straight line, juice kind of light on his feet. I mean, that. That's a good fit. Now they've got seven returning starters on defense, not all of them returning from last year's group. They lost a lot. And. And this is going to be a big. I mean, you lose Kenneth Grant, you lose Mason Graham, you lose Josiah Stewart. Right?
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All top 100 picks.
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Yeah, all top 100 picks. So it's going to be interesting to see now going up against Oklahoma and what seems like a good time to flip it to Oklahoma really quickly, though.
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Did you like Marlon Klein? Did you like the tight end?
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Yes, yes.
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He's a dude, man. I mean, the receivers, I don't know about that much yet. Jury's still out. But Marlon Klein, that tight end, he could play. He could play, man.
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It's interesting, too, the two Big Ten programs, two tight ends drafted early, right. Warren and Loveland. And both programs seem to be like, reload.
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Reload. Yeah. Right away.
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Mattier. I mean it. What do you take from Illinois State?
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Right.
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I. I get it. I get it. But I. I did want. You know, he comes with Arbuckle. The, the coordinator of Washington State comes there. They've got a bunch of receivers. They've got some portal guys. How's it going to look Jaden Ott? I. This is. I don't want to say this is breaking news, but I literally just was texting with my source at Oklahoma within the last hour.
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Okay.
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And I'm told on good authority that Jaden Otwell, just remember he had the shoulder injury. Injury last year. Very limited.
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Right.
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Cal at California, supposed to be a top 100 pick. Doesn't have the season. He thought he was going to have comes back to college, transfers to Oklahoma and expected to have a monster year at Oklahoma with the new coordinator. With John Matier at quarterback. Bringing his coordinator with some of the weapons they have at wide receiver, including Dion Burks, who's a potential top 100 prospect. And then I, like, I didn't watch the game the other day. I caught like some highlights. I went back and watched the tape and I'm like, where's Odd? So I'm in the box. I was like, I'm like one carry, negative three. Right then I was like, Google. And I knew he had the shoulder, but I didn't. I. It wasn't something that popped up. And then I talked to my source in Oklahoma in the preseason. He wasn't. He didn't say like worried about Odd or. So I was. I'm trying to do find them. Like I'm just going to text my guy.
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He.
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He's fine. He's good. Shoulder injury did limit him in camp protecting him last week. But he's gonna get plenty of run was the quote that I got.
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So, I mean, that was one of my notes is how healthy running back. Because the other guy that, that I thought was outstanding was the true freshman running back Tony Blaylock. And he left in the third quarter with a shoulder injury. That kid. If they can get Ott and Blaylock healthy together, watch out, man. That kid block vision burst. I was. He was. I was reading an article about it and he was supposed to get like a little bit of run. And by the third quarter they were like this kid's RB one for us in this game. Like we're going right back to him. And then he hurt his shoulder. I guess his shoulder was in a sling. Sounds like it's not going to be serious, but the night might not be able to play in this game long term. RB1 and RB2. If you got a. And block, I mean that's a. It's going to be a good backfield.
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Yeah. And what else jumped out to me is they've got three receivers. Dude, Keontes Lewis, who's playing. Wow. Dude, I didn't know. Wow. No idea. Jaren Canik, the Titan, Dion Burks and Keonte Lewis. KEONTES Lewis. Those three guys combined for 21 catches, 297 yards and three touchdowns. Like those three pass catchers are. And, and it's good to see Ott. I'm not. It was good to see Mattier with these like on the same page rolling and that offense works fast. And I'm not even talking about tempo. I'm talking about from snap to ball out. Like from from the RPO stuff to the progression reads like Mattier is exact. Like we're used to it now these Texas high school football guys, whether it's Baker Johnny football go back to oh Kyler after that I'm just like off the top of my head like these text it's like tempo fast, quick reads RPOs get the ball out and but it's not necessarily just like short game quick game. It's even like the intermediate and the down the field. So everything happens fast. And so to see that he's on the same page with these receivers was was really promising. Albeit against Illinois State. He finishes the day. Materials. 30 of 37, 392 yards, 3 touchdowns through the 1 pick 353 win over Illinois State. And I'll say this, there's tough to gleam much but that defense for Oklahoma was really good last year. They, they lost a couple key guys like really like foundation pieces. We talked about linebacker, safety Billy Bowman, but got a lot of the big time players back. Our Mason Taylor and they're deep at defensive tackle.
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Yeah, they got some.
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So like the defense look, I think it's going to be wind up being the top 15 unit nationally. So Matier comes in and it's the same old stuff, man. Little bit more refined from what I saw. But it is a scramble drill this guy.
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In the best way I thought about this McShay, because this is a nationally televised night game. It is the game of the weekend. Right. And there are, there are people out there, college football fans. I think there's a good amount of buzz about John material. But there are college football fans who watch that, that Saturday night game who have not seen this guy play and they get to watch him for the first time. And I'm a little jealous like the watching him for the first time like getting the the John Matier Show. If you don't know what's, what's coming your way, it is. I mean get your popcorn ready. I mean it is, it's awesome.
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I promise you if Oklahoma wins on Saturday night, John Mateer is the story in college football.
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Yeah, he is.
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He could potentially he will have taken over September in college football because everything with this guy is a fire drill and like a well constructed end result. Good, but it's a fire drill. John Matier is gives zero when you watch it. Like he doesn't care. No, he will challenge you on all three levels. It's RPO ball Out in the flat, you're still figuring out if he's handing the ball. And before you know it's right by your ear, the ball is. As a linebacker, he has an unbelievably quick release. The ball just snaps off his hand. He's got full back legs. He gets torque from the lower body even when his lower body's a mess. When he's off balance, he just. His arm angles are from here to there and everywhere in between. Absolutely slings it. Unbelievable competitor. And when all the others, the rpo, the pullback pulling the ball back, the screens, the. The quick slants off the screens, the. The deep ball, all that other stuff is. Is driving you mad as a defender, by the way, he can tuck it and run it. And I swear to God, he runs a 4.
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5 right.
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Like.
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I don't doubt it.
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Run. And he's the most competitive SOB Maybe in college football. Yeah, I. I absolutely love watching his tape. It's like watching like. Like a. I don't know, like a Spielberg movie for me, you know?
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Yeah. I don't. Or I would be more my Michael Bay. To me, more like Michael Explosions and action.
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Sure.
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All that.
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Sure. I was just coming up with a famous director that people might know.
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Right.
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Yes. Leave it to you to one up me. I love it.
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But. But. And he did it last week. First of all, he broke Oklahoma's debut passing passing yards in a game. He broke Baker Mayfield's mark. Just went out and shattered that his first game. Tough to imagine it being a better start. But he did give one away. He did throw an interception.
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Oh, he's gonna.
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And he will give them away. And that's something to keep an eye on. This game. Michigan has to take advantage of those chances. I mean, he will do it. Whether or not they take advantage kind of remains to be seen. I think it's something to watch in this game specifically. Can I go back to. To Lewis for a quick second here?
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Yeah.
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This guy's been everywhere. He was ucla, Wisconsin, Southern Illinois, Oklahoma and all. And I'm trying to figure out, really.
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I didn't know any of this.
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I went back and tried to see if there was maybe an issue in the young man's life that had caused him to bounce around. I couldn't find anything. My understanding when he was at Wisconsin, that there was.
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They brought in some guys on the.
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Portal and he just. And he just. It wasn't a fit for them. She ends up at Southern Illinois is productive.
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I'm watching this dude.
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He's a route Runner. He's got a good release. The contested catches, I was like, where. Where has he been? Yeah, I don't know how he wasn't. I mean, obviously Jim Nagy knew. Nagy knew like they knew like they were getting a kid here, man, like good for them. But I was watching that tape, I was stunned. I mean, because you saw Dion Burks, I was like, oh, it's nice to see him healthy, man. He's playing well. Good to see him back. These are the things he can do. But Lewis was a. A total eye opener for me and one of the matchups in this game that I'll say that we can get into, I guess a little bit. But J Air Hill, the cornerback from Michigan, I thought he was up and down last year. I thought he was up and down the first week. But he's talented and he can get up and ch. And he can challenge Lewis. That's going to be an interesting back and forth in this game.
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I said R. Ma I'm just going back over some of the notes that Nagy. I was just asking Nagy like early in the summer some of the guys. And he was talking about our Mason Thomas, not Taylor. I think I said Taylor. Yeah. I was talking about like wine and Okoye. The other edges and yep, all the Dion Burks and odd and the left tackle, the right guard beaten ball. The UTSA kicker springing in the portal but didn't mention this guy. I mean they had to have known that he's gonna. He's gonna be a big part of it. But I don't even know if they knew.
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Right, right.
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Like that he was going to be this game in game. You know, there was a throw. The 11:58 second quarter by Mattier. Looks off to the left, slides like slightly. That's one thing he does. If you watch him on Saturday. Just keep an eye on this.
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He's.
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His feet and his eyes are married. Like happily married. 50 year marriage. You know, I can complete each other's sentences. Like his feet and I like. So if he's. He's kind of. He's looking left. He's and. But he's coming back to his right. He's going to slide a little bit, buy himself some time, make sure there's space in the pocket so he comes back to his right. Slight slightly off balance still because he's kind of moving right, feeling it out off. When he decides he doesn't care where his lower body is. He. When he decides like yeah, it's great if it's Underneath me. But I've got like, I've got Mike Allstot legs underneath me. I can throw a little off balance. And just he drives this seam route on the money, kind of like. And the balls are. And then, and then there's another one. 14:52 in fourth quarter. He slides to his right, waits for. There's a. Work with me here.
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B
He, he.
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First of all, pre snap, he. He mo. He gets two. Two guys in motion, reset. Saw something in the defense. So he's get. Gets that all set up, moves his back, sets the protection, Everything's good. Comes out, looks left initially right. Comes back to his right. All right, slides to his right again, slightly. Waits a quarter count what. And then you go back in the tape, you like, what was the. He was waiting for something. They have two receivers on his right. The one on the outside runs a deep post, runs. He's waiting for the safety to carry that, that deep post receiver. And then there's a, there's a crosser that kind of sails underneath. So. But it's still deep.
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B
I think it was Burks.
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A
Yeah, no, on this one it was. I think it was Burks running him off.
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B
Oh, okay.
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A
And then underneath him came in, came Lewis.
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B
Yeah, no, I know exactly what.
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A
And then, and then he drills that one touchdown catch and he catch about the. The eight yard line and he just kind of scampers in for a touchdown. Those are just two throws that like stood out to me. They're not again, like we're not putting it on the NFL draft highlight reel. They're not like anything crazy, but it's just like how quickly he reacts. The little things he does with his feet, he's. Yeah. I don't know that there's a more fun player. If you want like quarterbacking 401. If you want to see the same shit that we talked about with like the all time greats and like the mental and like the Peyton Mannings and like all that stuff and what Tom Brady did. Like you go back and you watch Garrett Nussmeier and what he did in week one against Clemson, right. If you want an absolute like thrill ride, this is your guy. Yeah, he's the most exciting thing again between the lines in all of college football.
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B
I agree. Now, one thing I do worry about, and you know, this was, you had to know this was coming. Came into the year wondering how good this offensive line that had given up 50 sacks last year was riddled with injuries, how good it was going to be. I think there's signs of there's, there's things to be encouraged about. There were also some concerns in, in that game, especially considering the opponent in that Michigan front. Yeah, I know Mason Graham's gone and you know Kenneth Grant's gone. I know they're gone. I get it. They got some dudes.
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A
Oh, they do. Michigan.
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Michigan's got some dudes. I mean, TJ Guy, Derek Moore came all those, those edges. Ran Benny on the inside. On the inside. I'm telling you right now, there are some one on one matchups that Michigan can exploit. And that's going to be interesting going forward is how are those tackles able, especially the Oklahoma tackles. They're able to elevate a little bit and handle those edge guys. Or is that going to be an issue for Oklahoma in this game? That's. It's something that jumps to mind is something to keep an eye on because I do think the playmakers, I think Oklahoma's got the playmakers to make some plays against Michigan's defensive backfield. But I worry about that pass rush from Michigan and I worry about the run game especially. It makes me feel better. The J nauts healthy, but I'm worried about the Oklahoma running game too, a little bit.
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That game's going to be a special one. There's a reason it's prime time ABC that gets the treatment. Fowler, Herb Street. I can't wait.
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B
Who you got?
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A
Well, I'm glad you asked.
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B
We're gonna do that now.
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Put a plug in it. A friendly quick reminder. It is, it's by far the best game on the slate Saturday. Come join us for the last five, seven minutes of game clock. We're gonna have a blast with that. We'll watch the end of it. Well, you guys can watch it with us. Have it on your big screen. Get us on the phone, iPad, whatever you want to do. We'll have a lot of fun kind of reacting and talking through it. And then once the game's over, we go into full reaction mode for the entire day of college football.
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Right?
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And it's always these weeks where it's like, it's not quite the slate we got. Week one was unbelievable. Week three, we got some big games. Week two is kind of like a, you know, it's always these weeks where something like wild happens. So we'll be, we'll be reacting to all of that the day of, the day of football. So join us. Remember the McShay Show? Go to the YouTube page. You can go, you know, put an alert in right now. Just click on it. So that you put in a reminder for yourself. The McShay show is brought to you by FanDuel. Ready to fire up your Saturdays? FanDuel's got a boost you don't want to miss. It's called boosting with the Boys and it's giving everyone a college football profit boost every single week. I got a couple things for you here. How about these Heisman futures? Tommy Castellanos came in at plus 5,000. Now he's down to plus 3,000. Still unbelievable money. What I saw was special. It's a long shot and I got to go back to Garrett Nussmeier. So plus 800. There's some good money there. I think Nussmeier played at a level I haven't seen in a long time in college football at the quarterback position. Each week we're giving everyone a profit boost to use on college football. No opt in gymnastics. No invite only Nonsense. Everyone gets the boost. We're talking real games, real teams, real Saturdays with an extra payout on the line. It's easy, it's fun, and it's only on FanDuel. Go to FanDuel.com McShay to download the app. Check out the boosting with the Boys offer and get in on the action. Must be 21 and older and present in select states or 18 and older and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including any token expiration and max wager amount. See terms@sportsbook.fanduel.com gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut. This episode is brought to you by Duluth Trading Co. Ready to give rival tailgates the foam finger? Duluth Trading Co. Crafts hall of Fame game day gear to help you grill hotter, cheer louder and tailgate longer. Trust me, like I'm a scene at the Grill, I know what this is all about. They've got bibs loaded with pockets, gusseted pants so you can crouch without snuffing out your coals, and free swinging shirts tailor made for beanbag tossing or some like to call it cornhole. Stay comfortable from preseason to playoffs in the toughest tailgate attire around. Only at Duluth Trading Co.
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This episode is brought to you by NBA 2K26, a favor to my sons and me. All right, quick break. NBA 2K26 stacked this year. Gameplay new motion engine smoother catch and shoot the Rhythm shooting is dialed in. My team added the W's. Now you can get Caitlin Clark pulling up from deep. Larry Bird talking trash mid game. Jokic casually dropping triple doubles. It's absurd in the best way. My career has a whole new storyline. The city's tighter and you're on the court way faster. I've been playing video basketball games. I think the first one was early 80s. I'm stunned. Like when I, when I go and my son's playing with his friends and I go in and I barge my moon and I start playing with them. I'm just amazed by how good, how detailed all the games are. How they really look like NBA players. 2K26 is finally here and yeah, it is absolutely loaded. If you care about basketball even a little, you're checking it out today. Ball over everything.
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A
And then also fanduel while we're here and you just mentioned the picks. One and one. We both are. I'm not happy. That's why I'm pausing.
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B
We had a great start.
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Purposeful. Dead air folks. One and one. We're both, we both came in off hot. We're patting each other on the, patting ourselves on the back. Telling you to pat yourself on the both pick. I had Kansas State. You had the under. Felt great after week zero. Week one we laid an egg. You bet. Clemson loss. I had Baylor 3 1/2 lost. Fine. Blame whoever you want. I'll let her know. But we're one and one. So it's rebound week. Here's what I want to say to you. We've got a four leg parlay. You were doing a pick a week. I was doing a pick a week. I didn't do a good job of meshing the four leg parlay last week. Now I want to mesh both. Problem is go through your two picks right now for your picks of the week.
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I got Michigan with the points plus five and a half.
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I don't know if they're going to.
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Win that game, but I think that game's going to be tight. I think Michigan's going to give Oklahoma a game that's going to be. I think it's going to be awesome. Again, tune in because I think it's going to be an absolute battle. So I got Michigan with five and a half. That's, that's minus 115. And they got Florida to cover against South Florida. Look, South Florida had a great win against Boise State. Fake punt. They Boise stated. Boise State. I, I think that's a great win for the program. The problem with that win is Billy Napier. And the boys down in Florida down in, in Gainesville now have you on their radar.
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Yeah.
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And no, you're not, you're not coming in there and surprising anyone. And I think Florida is very much in a business mode and I think they cover that 17 and a half. I think that's going to be a big game for Florida.
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So here's the problem with trying to integrate your two picks with the the four.
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B
You don't like.
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One of, one of my two picks. One of my two picks for FanDuel pick pick of the week is I like Oklahoma to win that game. I'm going money line.
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All right, so Michigan's out.
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So ride with bench or ride with me on your picks of the week. My other pick of the week. I love Illinois at moneyline.
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B
Really?
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Minus 154. I get it. You got to give a little juice. I think they're, they're not underrated. Because. Because I think they're like 11 coming into the week.
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I think they're money line. Right.
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A
They're money game.
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B
Yeah.
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Yeah. Illinois is favoring that game. Okay, so you're two picks of the week are Michigan plus five and a half and Florida giving up 17 and a half.
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Right.
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I'm going with two money lines.
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Got it.
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Parlay them, take them straight up. Whatever you want to do. I like Oklahoma, I like Illinois. But we're going to merge a couple of some of our picks. We're going to take the Oklahoma Michigan game out of it. All right?
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Okay.
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I'm going for four game. This is the fan duel featured bet. Four leg parlay. It nets you plus 408. And I got a little crafty here today. Match. I'm learning as we go.
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B
Let's go.
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Illinois Moneyline, sticking with that one. I took your floor to play and put it in here. But I got us the alt line, the alternate line.
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Okay.
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At three, three and a half. Okay. It's minus six twenty. But you put it in a four leg parlay.
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B
Exactly.
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Florida wins by four and Illinois beats Duke. Now we get two parts of the four, four leg parlay. Then I want Iowa plus six and a half and we'll get to I. We'll get to that matchup in a minute.
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Okay.
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And I want Baylor plus three and a half. I'm going back to the Baylor bank. I, I actually like the way they played. I think Auburn's a really good football team. I think Auburn's really good defensively even though they gave up not really Good. I think Auburn's pass rush. I think Auburn's a good football team.
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I like that. And it's good parlay.
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I mean obviously. So alternate spread on Iowa plus six and a half and on Baylor plus three and a half. Those are two alternate spreads. Not big movement in those, but I like that. Iowa plus six and a half. That game's always close. Almost always close. Usually between like three points. Then Illinois money line and Florida alternate line of three and a half. Okay, that's what we got. Reminder pro. Gotta promo this again. Chicago, you and me. Lincoln hall barstool. Big cat Dan Katz, Lincoln hall. Next Wednesday, September 10th. Be there. Intimate group. We're going to meet everyone there. We'll talk, we'll catch up, we'll get to know some of the people who are supporting our show. I can't wait to do it. If you're in Chicago, in the area, just come in for, for the night hour and a half show. We'll probably make it into a three hour event somehow. We'll be hanging around after till I get hungry and Mensch gets hungry, he gets angry. So that's it, that's it on all that. Now here's what I wanted to get to and we've gone long and we always do because I do want to at the end of the show get to the NFL rookies. We're coming up on week one and we spent months, we spent 12 months going through that rookie class and now that we have information coming out of training camp, want to get go just rip through some guys that I think are set to have big years and starting on week one. But this is the year of the college football quarterback. Man. We are in the golden era of quarterbacking in college football and it's trickling its way up into the draft and we saw it two years ago with the six guys drafted top 12 picks. Last year there was this little, little like hiatus. It was the week two between a great week one in college football and a great week three. Yeah, all right, but here we are and we've got this this year and we watched last year last week, right, Arch versus saying kind of first year starters. They've been around a little bit but they're next up and it wasn't all pretty but my goodness, there's talent there. We watched later in the day, is it going from the JV game to the, to the varsity game when Nelson Clubnik took the field and yeah, it was only 17 to 10 the final, but there was some damn good quarterback play in that game. We also saw Sellers go into hero mode. Lenore Sellers, John Mattier put up the numbers we just talked about and like. And that's just, that's just. Those are some of the top guys, right?
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Yeah. Arson Beck and C.J. carr. A little a mix of both. The veteran versus the, the freshman. I mean that was great.
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Yeah. And Beck is back in the mix. Good point. And we saw Underwood is a true freshman. Right. So like we got all these names in college football but I want to remember like I've got scouts texting me being like holy shit, there are so many dudes at quarterback this year and it's, it's never going to be more prevalent than in a slate that's not that great. At noon after whether you're watching game day or big noon kick, whatever your cup of tea is. There are six quarterbacks playing in three matchups that feature one ranked team that are all dudes in their own way.
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B
Yeah. And they're all kind of unique but they're all, all worth watching.
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Baylor at SMU with Sawyer Robertson and Kevin Jennings. Illinois at Duke. Highly underrated quarterbacks in Luke Altmeyer and Darian Mensah.
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Agree.
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Iowa, Iowa State, Rocco Beck and Mark Gronkowski. I want to start and we don't have to go deep into these games. I just want to give people an understanding of what we're watching on Saturday and what like the treat that this college football season is because everywhere you look there's a quarterback or there's a quarterback matchup that's like we're not used to seeing at this level. Jennings versus Robertson. Baylor at SMU. Noon kick. As we said, SMU's minus two and a half. About to find out if SMU's is good or they're just rate ranked that high because of what they did last year.
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Interesting line, right?
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A
Two and a half.
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B
Yeah. I like, I like Baylor in this game but go ahead.
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A
I do too. And, and they're in our 44 leg parlay.
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B
I won't even pretend to talk about Robertson because he's been your guy for, since. I mean he's at the Manning Academy. Right. I mean you.
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A
Yeah. And I've given a deep dive dive on him. Cousins of Jarrett Stidham, two years at Ole Miss. He's been around, played a lot of ball and you can tell he played.
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B
He threw her 400 yards last week.
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419 and three touchdowns and a loss to Auburn was 27 of 48. He was a little off target at times but he's 6, 4, 2, 20. He runs well. He flicks his wrist and drives that football beautiful like 840 in the first quarter. I was going back and watching tape today. Beautiful deep ball down the right rail. I give a lot of credit to him too, man. That Auburn pass rush, Kelvin Falk, those guys, they got Keldrick Falk, they got after his ass and he took some hits and he made some mistakes under pressure and all the things, but he hung in there. He kept firing. The run game wasn't reliable for Baylor. They had 80 yards on 20 carries from their top two backs. So it was all on Sawyer in that passing attack. I was, I was impressed with them. I was impressed even in a loss. And now you get, now you go to smu. It's a tough way to start the season. For Baylor it is Auburn and then at SMU and you go up against Kevin Jennings and like I said, like let's find out are they as good as as they were last year fort they lost 14 starters.
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But yeah.
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Rhett Lashley hit the portal hard again. 12 starters now coming in.
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Good coach too man. I mean Lashley damn good coach. Damn good coach.
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I'm. I'm interested to see what a difference in weeks potentially going up against that Auburn front for Robertson versus this D line that says to me has got to have a lot of questions and they didn't get answered last week against East Texas A and M. No, but you lost four starters along the defensive line including Elijah Roberts and Jared Harrison. Hunt 8 Transfer Transfer Portal guys. So that to me is a matchup. That's interesting. And then you got Kevin Jennings for, for SMU who's back doing Kevin Jennings things. 22 of 3260 passing touchdown, two rushing touchdowns. Really nice deep ball. Started the night night off with a deep ball down the left rail. Touchdown. Changes his arm angles, RPO rips it Smooth sudden runner. Yeah.
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Way more of a threat as a runner than the. The stats would suggest. I looked at his rushing stats and I was like oh, I thought he was like. And then, and I thought he was a better runner and then I went back and watched the tape. You know he is, he is a better runner and he, he, he had this against again was East Texas A M. But he had this play last week where he just threatened the put the linebacker in conflict by stepping up and the linebacker stepped up and he just ripped it down the right sideline for a touchdown. I don't know if that's the same throw you're talking about, but he's He's. I will say this, he's a little thicker this year. He's still leaning, which makes me a little nervous every time he takes off. But he's. He's a gamer, man. He was a cat. He wasn't even a starter going into the season last year. And he's nine and two and he takes him to the playoff.
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He was a three. You know, his other offer was Sam Houston.
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Sam Houston. Yep. Yep, that's it. He wasn't. And he struggled against Penn State and he pressed. But he played pretty damn well against Clemson after a slow start in the ACC championship game. So there was a lot of encouraging things. And he was a captain. He was a captain that year. He was named a captain a year. Wasn't a starter going into it. Tough, smart, good arm. I mean, he's. He's going to be fun to watch. I think Robertson probably has a higher ceiling because of the tools, but Jenny's NFL ceiling.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Jenny's a good quarterback, man.
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A
So there's that game at noon and then you got another game. Illinois, Duke. Illinois comes in ranked 11th in the country. Is it warranted? We'll find out. I happen to think that they're pretty damn good. They're. They're favored only by three and a half, though.
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I think. I think that's accurate, man.
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A
Okay.
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B
And I'll tell you why.
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A
Go ahead. You tell me why.
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First, I love Darian Mensah. The two. I love him. He is. He is an absolute assassin. The way he throws. He throws. Moving to his left. He throws, moving to his right. Accurate yards after the catch. He's not an elite runner, but he is.
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He's a pocket passer who, who, who can, who can kill you if you don't? If you don't.
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B
He extends, man. He will extend plays on you and then make and make off platform. Throws. Throws well on the run, right downfield touch a little inconsistent. Again, not an elite scrambler, but a guy that, if you let him, he'll pick you apart. Which is why that talented Illinois pass rush better come to play. Because if they don't. Mental, give Duke a chance. In that game.
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It was only. I get it. It's elon. It was 10:10 at halftime, but he, he was one player that was not playing like a 10:10 game with Elon. No, he was drilling intermediate throws, driving the ball vertically, outside shoulder to wide receivers on the deep ball where when it needed to be back, shoulder placement.
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B
I like running back. The running back dropped that touchdown right down the seam.
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A
Oh man. Yep.
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B
You could see the offensive. One of the offensive linemen almost threw his hands up was like, I can't do that. I mean a little frustrating on that one. But yeah, he's. Dude, he's good.
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A
Yeah. Like if you're talking like head to head quarterback play, like I'm, I'm like. And I, I'll get to Altmeyer in a second. I'm a big fan, but I don't know which one I'd take.
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B
It. It's, it's interesting because I actually think they're similar in a lot of ways. They're. Altmire's so calm and poised in the pocket. The way he gets through his reads, the way he finds guys. I, I like Almeyer too. I like Mensa a little bit more and, but that again, you have to be careful about recency bias. Bias. Right. I have. I'm not as familiar with Mensa's game. I've seen all. Neither years now. So you do worry about that. But I do. I, I think they're both very effective pocket passers.
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Well, Mensis at tulane and he's nine win season in the eight. The AAC championship comes out, goes 2734 for 389 with three touchdowns against Elon. But Elon was hanging around by the way.
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B
Interesting staffer for Mensa was. He led the AAC and completion percentage and yards per attempt. So he led it in completion percentage. But it wasn't dink and dunk stuff, right?
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No, he, he, he rips it, man. And I saw him at the Manning passing academy. I, I like, I'm like, what is like, I like this UNC kid, Geo Lopez, who didn't have a great first game, but you could see the talent. I, I like, I like the kid from Washington. I like Fafita who's five nine, you know, and, and, and 190 like wet and wearing boots. But I'm like this Mensa guy. I don't know much about him from Tulane last year, but he's six threes, 205, a little lanky but looks the part. He's going to grow into it and he's slinging the ball everywhere. And then you get Demon Williams from Washington. Like I'm telling you, this quarterback play is outrageous. But Manny Diaz is 9 and 4 last year, 13 return returning starters. This team is more experienced like they're in the program. I think they're as talented as last year. But their, their schedule is pretty brutal for the ACC and Illinois playing Illinois non Conference doesn't help.
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B
You know, I like Illinois, but they better not sleep on this Duke team. They better not. They better.
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Oh, I don't. Yeah, it's a noon kick at Duke. I get it. But began like Altmeyer's been through some wars. Two years at Ole Miss as a backup. Transfers to Illinois in 2023, got better each season. Stand out at the Manning Passing Academy. Like there's a lot you talk to coaches and the counselors and like all these different people. Like Altmeyer's one of the guys, you know what I mean?
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B
Like, can I, can I back that up with a stat?
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Yeah.
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He is the only quarterback in the nation with three game winning touchdown passes in the final two minutes or overtime. Last year he did against Nebraska, Purdue and Ruckers.
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He leads the, he leads the nation in career game winning drives in final minute overtime with five.
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B
One of the. What's your quarterback doing?
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This guy's got something to him and everyone I talk to that's in the know, in the quarterback fraternity, that circle. He's one of the guys. Okay, I'm talking like, I'm talking like prepares, does all the little things. Active in community, loves his teammates, cares, work ethic, all those things that are part of the DNA of a great quarterback. He's like check plus plus, okay. And then you watch him on tape. You can just tell he's played a lot of ball. Mechanics are sound. He goes through his reads as quickly as you'll see a college quarterback. That's one thing. Just even watching this game, just, you know, and the offense operates fast because of that. He's got enough mobility. Occasionally takes off and runs, but that's not a big part of his game. But he's very sudden in his, in his reads, progressions, feet with him, all that stuff. He just goes through things in a flash and his feet married. He missed a deep ball, but came back on that pump and go connected for a touchdown. Good arm. I just, I liked his placement on the ball. He's a really good player.
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Agree.
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So that, that's another game. So that's a second game at noon. Ranked team. Illinois versus Duke. Three and a half point spread. The other one's a two and a half point spread. Ranked versus non ranked. Then we got this other one. Fascinating rivalry. Iowa. Iowa State. Always a close game. Iowa State's a 2 1/2 point favorite. Rocco Bet comes out, gets outplayed. By the way, in rainy conditions, just, you know, they're my people, the Irish, but my God, the weather, rainy conditions over to Viva Stadium. Avery Johnson outplayed him, I thought. But he finds a way to win, guts it out. Gritty. Remember the.
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B
He had two. Remember he had the two calls at the line of scrimmage with they. They needed a first down the game on the line. He had two calls at the line of scrimmage. He got into the right play, dumped the ball off to his running back. It was a touchdown that they called back, but he had the two calls of the line of scrimmage. He got into the right one first off, and then he executed in that situation. So again, what's your quarterback doing at key points in the game?
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No question. And then. And then his. And then the. He comes back, it's South Dakota. I get it. First ball of the game. Just drills a deep crosser going right to left. Beautiful ball. Couple plays later, hits that tight end, Bramer in the corner of the end zone. Touchdown off and running balls jumping out of his hands, rolling right, got a guy coming back to him, zips it in. They jump out to a 35. 7 lead. Early third quarter days done. He went 19 of 20 passing. What do they always say? How do I evaluate any player or quarterback? And against lesser competition, does he dominate? Well, yeah. 19 of 20 passing, three touchdowns. Now, here's what's interesting to me, man. Another guy that a lot of people that Manning Passing Academy really like and are like, really kind of invested in him. The guy, this Mark Gronowski guy for Iowa. Three seasons at South Dakota State. Two time FCS champion for the Jackrabbits. Wins the FCS Heisman Trophy award. Leads FCS in passing efficiency in 2023. Tied for the winningest quarterback in FCS history. He was 49 and 6.
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49, 6.
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That's a big number, man, for them jackrabbits. He's mature. 23 years old. Told you. Love people in that quarterback circle. Love this dude. A proven winner. But he really struggled in the debut. I went and watched that tape against Albany. It was weird, man. The receivers aren't getting open consistently enough. I'll give them that. But he looked like he was confused. Holding on to the ball too long. Missed some open receivers, like, didn't see them getting open. Just doing a lot of this.
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Tramping up.
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I mean, yeah, he felt like he. He was afraid to pull the trigger at times. Like some, like, is this is Iowa just something like where quarterbacks go to die? Like, what this isn't. But you know that this isn't that guy.
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No.
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Hesitant holding the ball. Now the Iowa's offensive line looked pretty good. They protected him pretty well.
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They ran the ball well.
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They ran the ball really well. But he's got to correct some stuff. They got to get him feeling confident in his reads, playing with some, you know, it's going to be interesting. I like Iowa in this one. I like their defense.
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I like their line.
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I like the run game. I think they're going to bully Iowa State a little bit.
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The only thing that scares me about this game is that one. Iowa State's got a little early season momentum going after beating Kansas State and then taking care of South Dakota, they got a little momentum. And I do think that Rocco, who I, I look at on the table, like, he's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, he doesn't have the strongest arm, but he's playing at a. He's playing the position at a very high level right now, in my opinion. So Rocco's playing at a high level. They got a little momentum. I still, I. Coming into the year, I looked at this before the start of the year. I loved Iowa in this game. Now I still like Iowa, but it's. I think it's going to be an interesting. It's going to be an interesting matchup, especially if Kranowski doesn't turn around. By the way, one other thing about him, he and Dan's gonna kill me. Tucker's gonna kill me because we're starting to run long. But he rushed for 37 touchdowns at South Dakota. He. He is not a great athletic state, by the way. Big difference. Big difference. Sorry about that to the people in the area, but he's really good about following his blocks on design keepers. He's an instinctive runner. He's not very explosive or powerful, but he is really good. He has a real good feel for it.
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All right, so that's.
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That.
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It's. It's gonna like. It's gonna be an exciting day. There's no question about. In college football, I, we just gave you six quarterbacks and three noon kicks with one ranked. One ranked team involved and we gave you winners for FanDuel. But I do want to say this mensch. It is. It is week one of the NFL season and I know we're like, we're. We're all hands on deck college football, but we also were all hands on deck for 12 months going over these rookies. I'm going to rip through some guys.
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Yep.
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That were my guys. Guys. I loved that. I'm hearing there's nothing better right Than when your Guys and you start to, you know, you start to talk to people in the league. You start to read reports, see things on, on the tube that your guys are actually, they're living up to expectations in camp. There's nothing more frustrating than guys that you stamped. He's like, he's not, he's not picking things up. So I'm gonna rip through some guys real quickly. And as you pointed out to me when I sent you some notes, I've got nine guys. I didn't, I didn't leave any for you, Mitch. I didn't even say that.
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You just read into it. You just.
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200, 248 or so other players were drafted. I didn't leave any for you.
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You used some pretty graphic language. I'll be honest with you. You were not.
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I did. I told you to go yourself. Matthew golden, talk about reports out of camp being good. All the things we talked about. Yes. The 4 9, 429 speed. I get it. He's fast but adjusting to the ball. Better routes than people ever gave him credit for. More polished. Right. Everything that we said pre draft, all the reasons why I absolutely loved him and I know you did too, is what we're hearing out of packers camp. I think he, like Jordan love, this is going to be his guy. They've drafted guys in the second round. They've brought in other guys. Like, they've had a kind of a carousel of guys. Right?
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Yeah.
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I think Matthew golden is going to be the guy. Then another receiver who's doing great in camp. This is my guy. I know it's not your favorite. A Mecca Buka, 19th overall. Killing it like right away. Baker Mayfield's like, I trust this guy.
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Plays any position they, whatever position they need him to go to. He knows what he's doing.
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Outside slot, understands all the things that we told. Like I remember talking to people at Ohio State and they were like, just the love that they have for certain guys there. There's a certain receiver that just signed a contract for the Commanders. He was a pretty big star. He was like a third round pick. And the same things they were saying about him, they're saying about a Mecca Abuka. And now all of a sudden he gets in the camp and he's trusted. Right. And so now I look at him and Chris Godwin still recovering from the ankle. They've had a couple injuries there. I think it's going to be Mike Evans and Mecca Buca right off the bat. And so you got. First of all, they're playing Detroit, Green Bay is for Matthew Golden. Second of all, the Bucks are playing at Atlanta in the opener. I can't wait to see. I can't wait to see those two guys, right, come out. And Terry McLaurin, by the way, was the guy I was talking about. Ohio State. Right. I think I was teasing the name and I never said it, but now. So those are the receivers. I think all season long get on those guys. But also like in week one. I'm excited to see how they play now. A couple running backs who absolutely loved. And there were a lot of running backs, including Ashton, Jinty and Judkins and all these guys, right? The two guys that I love. Now I'm stealing this one from mentor. At least I did during the process. But Omari and Hampton was men's guy, was always his guy. But then I stole him and tried, just yelled louder about it. But you don't see. What did I say? You don't see 6 foot 2, 20, kind of move like that and be light on his feet and accelerate.
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Accelerate.
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That's what. That's what's coming out of Chargers camp. Players, coaches raving and a perfect fit. That Harbaugh offense run the football. Omari and Hampton is going to be a big part of this Chargers team. Trying to go from good to like actually doing things in the playoffs. Patriots right here. Locally, not breaking news. Travion Henderson, 38th overall pick. I thought, like you and I both talked about, totally cool with him going in round one. Kind of surprised that he fell to 38th, which wasn't a big fall, but just a different gear.
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Right.
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And everyone you talk to in New England is like, yeah, Jameer Gibbs, David Montgomery. Well, we got Ramon Dre Stevenson and this is going to be our Gibbs. And I'm just. I'm excited to see him with Drake May, a young offense. You got Josh McDaniels. Like, it's just. I'm excited to see this. This next step for May, and I think Henderson is going to be a big part of it. Then my tight end. I told you. Arroyo, Elijah Arroyo. Shocked that he fell to where he did. Love Mason Taylor. Loved Elijah Arroyo. I fell fully in love with Arroyo when I saw him blocking.
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We like Ferguson, too. It was just that Arroyo would seem different, man.
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Yeah, I liked Ferguson, but I loved. Yeah, Arroyo and really love Mason Taylor. But just something about this guy had the injuries, all that speed, toughness, blocking hands, consistency. Those are the five words, the describers that I keep hearing out of camp. So good. By the way, Seattle's playing San Francisco in the opener. I meant to say this. With all these teams. Chargers are playing Friday night against the Chiefs. Can't wait to see him against that defense. Right. Can he get off to a good start? Henderson's playing first week vs. Vegas. Seattle vs. San Fran in the opener. So good. Arroyo's been. You know, they released Noah Fant.
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B
I didn't see that.
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Yes, they just released Noah faint. So that tells you what you need to know. Then two more guys, both on the same team. Bengals play, play the Browns. These are two of my guys, the Bengals defensive picks. Shemar Stewart, massive holdout. All the off the field stuff, the agent, the this, the that gets on the field, you know who loves him, teammates, you know what he's doing. Playing his ass off like he did at A and M. Yeah. Battling, picking things up quickly. He's ready to go. We like the Bengals desperately need, desperately need anyone to step on the up on the defensive side, especially on that defensive line. Shemar Stewart, I think is going to come up right off the gates. Can he become a better pass rusher and a finisher or we'll find out. But the reports have been glowing in the last couple of weeks out of Cincinnati. And then their second round pick, Demetrius Knight. I told you, shot out of a cannon watching that South Carolina defensive tape. Just se ball. Run through ball. So those are my guys, Mitch. Who do you. Who do you got week one heading?
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You like the, you like the glowing guys.
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You're all.
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Mr. Optis. I'm here for the welcome to the NFL moments. And what does that mean? I'm here to see Cam Ward go to Denver. And let's find out what we got.
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Here, man, because you have a tougher week one assignment.
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You're going to Denver, my man. And I love KM ord. And this is just what it is, man. This is the league. Let's see what you got. I'm excited to see him, see what he can do with the opportunity. I want to see Will Campbell, the number four overall pick, lined up against Max Crosby.
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A
You are a crusty old offensive line that works out. Bastard.
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And who knows, maybe this is where Campbell shows up and says, hey, hey, men, remember, you call me a guard. You see what I just did against Max Crosby? You see what I just did in that game? I mean, that's a great opportunity for him, too. And then the last one I'll say is it's a little bit different. But Baltimore, that big game against, against Buffalo, and you got Malachi Starks starting at safety opposite Kyle Hamilton against Josh Allen. Let's see what happens there. Man, I'm excited. But that, that Raven secondary, by the way, they've invested a lot. You got Nate Wiggins, former first rounder at corner. You got. You brought in Jair Alexander at the other corner.
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Yeah.
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You have Kyle Hamilton and Malachi Starks at safety. Remember when that, that, that that secondary was a little bit concerned for the Raiders?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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B
Like secondary has the potential to be outrageous. But Malachi Starks, you played in a.
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Lot of big games negotiating him.
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You haven't seen Josh Allen on Sunday night in Orchard park, by the way. That's one I want to watch.
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A
I'm here.
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Welcome to the NFL moment.
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A
So I just ripped off nine dudes that are having awesome camps. Yeah. That I slash. We love during the process that we're excited to see how they burst into the scene in the NFL. And you just gave me three dudes that you kind of sneaky are insinuating that you want to see him fall flat. No, no, no. I did not say that. I want to see them succeed.
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B
I want to see them.
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A
Yeah. You want to see Will Campbell succeed against Max Crosby.
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Absolutely.
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A
You want to see Malachi Starks succeed against Josh Allen?
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100% I do.
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A
You want to see who's the first one? Who.
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B
Who else did I have Cam Ward in Denver. Yeah.
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Cam Ward versus Denver in altitude.
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Let's see what happen.
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Receivers and patchwork offensive line that by reports out of camp has not been awesome.
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Yeah, we're gonna see, man. We're gonna see. We didn't even say Travis Hunter, by the way. We got. I can't wait to see how they use him. Travis Hunter is going to be interesting just to see how we.
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We.
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B
There's been all this talk about how.
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They'Re going to use Ashton Jy with Vegas.
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Ashton Jenty. There's a lot of names out there, man. It's going to be interesting.
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The two tight ends drafted in the first round. I left all these big time names on a plat. Hunter, Ginty, Tyler, Warren, Colston, Loveland.
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Excited to see them all, man.
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Excited, crusty old offensive line. All right, this is fun Saturday night. Come join us at the end. Michigan, Oklahoma, we're going to be there. Live reaction show. We'll. We'll send out tweets and threads and everything else to let you know exactly when we're coming on. But plan on the last couple drives of that game. We'll be on and we'll have a reaction show the rest of the night. And don't forget next Wednesday live show, Lincoln Hall, Chicago, September 10th. You, me, big Cat and hopefully a lot of supporting friends with us. Mensch once again. Five stars must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18/ plus and present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem call 1-800- gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gambling help.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline ma.org or call 1-800-327-5050 for 247 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New York.
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