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Todd’s 2026 Draft QB Tiers: The Names You Need to Know This College Football Season
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Foreign preseason deep dive into the 2026 NFL Draft class before the football season begins. Quarterback tier rankings. My version of heaven. Stevie Boys personal hell. Just five days until college football kicks off this Saturday. 248 days until the NFL draft meant. You good?
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I'm fine.
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That's good enough for me. Let's roll it.
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Here we go.
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It's early and I always said I want to be transparent and I want our content to mirror what we're doing, right in terms of the process. And so like when we get to March and April and we do, whether it's tiers for all the position rankings or just for the quarterbacks, they're very specific, they're fine tuned, right? Like there's three tiers within the 90s, which is usually we don't grade based off of round, but Those guys with 90 grades always get in the first round because it's, you know, perennial Pro bowl type players, hall of Fame type guys, you know, great starters, immediately, all that. And so when we get closer to the draft, obviously like there are three tiers within the 90 grade range here. I'm like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to make this into something that it's not. I'm not going to start like, well, there's, there's nobody in tier one, in tier two, we've got two quarterback, like we're not there yet. And I got news for you. No NFL team in the league. None of the 32 teams are tier ranking anybody at this point. But I think it's important and we're doing this because I've gotten a lot of texts and I do every year at this time. And then early in the season they'll, they'll start to come in again as, as the different broadcast groups from ESPN and Fox and otherwise start to go out to games and they want to know like, we're going to Build a graphic like, these are, you know, top five prospects in the game. This, this quarterback is going to be. We project him. You know, Todd McShay hasn't projected as a first round or, or day two or whatever it is. So I just, I kind of wanted to get this information out there because it's what I'm, I'm kind of going back and forth with a lot of people on and where I see the class and, and, and men, you've done the same. The film evaluations. And I know our grades aren't identical, but we're in the same ballpark and a lot of these guys. And we'll just have a conversation about how I see the tiers now. Essentially I've broken them up into three tiers. Top nine guys that we spent a lot of time on, please go back to whether it's YouTube, Spotify, Apple, wherever else you get your podcast. And we did deep dives on just about all of these quarterbacks and they're full shows on these guys. It's hard to like, I've never done content that have been handed out to the public. We've always done this in the process, scouting in the preseason, getting ready for the season. But this is the first time ever, as our show started in October 22 last year, this is the first full year go around we've had. So with all of that said, like, now to me is a good time to take a look before the season starts and at where we have these guys in ranked of just tier one, tier two, tier three, Tier one to me. And we can throw up the graphic of these players. Tier 1 to me is the quarterbacks right now. If they were to come out and you know, barring anything, barring something happening that that's unforeseen or information that comes up that we don't know about. And we'll get into all three of these guys. You can see tier one, you got Kade Klubnick from Clemson, Garrett Nussmeier from lsu, Lenora Sellers from South Carolina. These are guys that I, I. Something would have to go wrong. There would have to be a serious regression or information that comes out that we're not privy to now or that happens between now and the draft. For me not to say these guys belong in, in the first round, okay, they would carry a grade that's equivalent to round one. Tier two is guys that make the three guys you could see there. Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, Sam Levitt from, from Arizona State, and Drew Aller from Penn State that I think can Work their way into round two. Sorry, into round one. And quite frankly, like, I think it's a much better shot they get into round one than maybe round three. Okay. But I can't stamp it yet. I need to see more. I need more game experience from Mendoza, need the same from Levitt. Need to see certain things have to be improved upon from Aller. And I know I'm different than a lot of people on hour, so we can have that conversation today. And then finally, tier three, we're talking guys that I think are. Are probable or. Or likely or. Or could work their way into top 100. Not saying they won't be round one. When it's all said and done. Cam Ward, last year, at this point, we didn't have a show. At this point, we weren't. We weren't even. We were in negotiations with Spotify in the ringer last year. So at this point last year, Cam Ward talk to people in the NFL. It was like, yeah, day three, early day three. Maybe he could work his way in the second, third round. Then all of a sudden, he's the number one overall pick. And he's. He is not an outlier. Like, that happens frequently. Baker Mayfield wasn't going to be the number one overall pick. Even a couple weeks before the draft, people, including myself, didn't think that he would be the number one overall pick. So these are guys that absolutely could work their way into round one, But I view as like, let's clump them now. I always talk about air traffic control. Let's get them kind of headed in the right direction. But we haven't decided what the, you know, the exact landing time is, what Runway, whether coming out of the east or the west or the north or the south, and all those sorts of things. I'm just saying I think they'll. They're about, you know, top 100, but not sure. They're going to have to have great years and do a lot of things to lock in a spot in round one. So there you have it. Those are three tiers. The nine quarterbacks we're going to focus on. Okay. Before we get into those nine, though, you know what's exciting about this class?
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What's that?
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It is deep, right? And it's exciting for college football as a whole. It's exciting for the NFL in the future. I would argue this is like, I'm sure there have been certain other, like, gold rushes of quarterback play in the NFL. I think back to, like, that 83 draft with, like, Marino and Elway and and those guys. But you look around the landscape of the NFL and like there's just a lot of good quarterback play. You know, you got your Josh Allen's, your Patrick Mahomes, your Lamar Jackson's, you've, you've got, you know like your Jared Goffs and, and Matthew Staffords and even, you know, Baker Mayfields. And I'm not, I'm not going through a list right now. I'm just like off the top of my head. But even like Caleb Williams looks great in that preseason game. Ben Johnson, you got Drake May rising.
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You got the year two jump.
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Yeah, the year two guys, right? We already saw Bo Nix got off to a great start. Jaden Daniels was phenomenal as a rookie. Now if Caleb can play to his level, all right, there's J.J. mcCarthy's getting started. So my point is, I hear you. Go ahead.
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I'm going to cut you off because immediately what I'm, I'm thinking is, is the 2023 class, is it as good, is it going to be as good as that 2023 class with Daniels, Williams, Drake May at the top, the depth of that class with the, the JJ McCarthy who we haven't seen. But you know, I was excited about coming out of school. Bo Nix, Michael Pennix, are we looking at a potential.
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Well, that was a record setting class.
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I understand. That's what I'm, you're, I'm excited about this class. I'll go first. I'll say this, I'm not ready to put it in that conversation yet.
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We weren't necessarily ready to put it in the conversation a month before the draft. And quite honestly, like if Bo Nix didn't go to Denver, everyone in the league thought he was round two. Nobody thought Michael Penix was going that high. Even like a few days before the draft. It was like late first, early second maybe, but probably going to go late first.
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Jaden Daniels wasn't going to be, wasn't going to go that early. There was no conversation about Jaden Dale's going that early.
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No, it was Jaden Daniels two years ago and this, this past year I just talked about Cam Ward. So yes, we will see. But there's a lot of good players out there and that's the exciting part. I'm going to, I'm going to list you a bunch of names right now. Okay. That could, there of this group, we could have our Jaden Daniels or our Cam Ward.
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Right.
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Luke Altmire from Illinois is underrated, I promise you. Nico Iamaliava from UCLA don't think he's going to be ready. Still fighting for for the starting job, by the way. Talented, but my goodness, is he talented. Miller Moss, let's see. One year with the Braum brothers in Louisville. Okay. The USC transfer Avery Johnson put out a lot of good tape last year. Maybe doesn't fit the measurables and all those things, but he's got talent. Aiden Chiles. There's some scouts that were like, hey, keep an eye on this Aiden Chiles guy from Michigan State. I know he's kind of under the radar, right? Rocco Beckt from Iowa State. Probably needs another year, but still could be in the mix. Mark Granowski, liked what I saw from him at the Manning passing Academy. Leader, tough guy. Like, I think he's going to make a jump. Kevin Jennings, phenomenal athlete. Smu Eli Holstein, Pittsburgh. Tayin Green from Arkansas. Two undersized guys that absolutely sling it. Maybe it's not for the NFL like at a high level or maybe it's not a starter, but they're going to have big years, I believe. Noah Fita at Arizona. Gio Lopez, NC. Both were awesome at that Manning passing academy. Okay. Josh Hoover, tcu Haynes King, Georgia Tech. Darian Mensah, Duke. Tommy Castellanos, transfers from BC to Florida State. Kaden Salter, CO. Jaylen Daniels, KS B Barin Morton. Baron Morton from Texas Tech, loaded with talent. Sixteen guys coming in. We're going to talk about Home Depot and our our good friends at Home Depot a little bit later in the show. You want to talk about a program with a renovation, right? Austin Novasad, Oregon. Still fighting for that job there, but really talented. So this is an exciting year in college football and it's just exciting for the, you know, the, the future, the continued future and like, depth of talent in the NFL at that position, the most important position in sports. All right. Tier 1, as I mentioned before. Cade Klubnick from Clemson, Garrett Nussmeier from lsu. Lenore Sellers from South Carolina. Club Nick, I I've got it one and here's, here's my thinking on it and I'll let you kind of rift on on Club Nick and I'll come back and kind of dig in a little bit deeper. Okay. When I was talking to Dan Comer, our producer and editor extraordinaire, does that a little bit of little, a lot of everything. I shouldn't say a little bit, a lot of everything for us. I was trying to explain the like, why Club Nick over a Nussmeier or Sellers? Well, Sellers has a Special trait that nobody else in this class has, but he's got a lot of work to do as a passer. Nussmeier doesn't have the, the physical upside of club Nick or, or Sellers, but he's. And while he. The interception's got to get cut down on and all those things, my goodness, is he, like, refined, polished, confident, aggressive, anticipation, timing, all those sorts of things. Club Nick, I've got it number one because I think he's got the best blend of those two things. He's. He's got good size, he's got mobility, he's got arm strength, he's got the tools. And I saw a lot of, a lot more refinement from him last year. What a jump from 2023 to 2024. Okay. And like, I love his ability to drive the deep out the verticals. The arm strength extends a lot of plays, but he does it with poise. Right. He's got instincts, agility, enough strength to kind of ward off defenders. He was only sacked 23 times in 14 games last year. Sellers was sacked 33 times in just 12 games last year. Not as dynamic, not as explosive an athlete, but it's not just about speed, agility and all those things. It's about the presence, the feel in the pocket setting, protections, all the processing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, like, he's got, like, this Gumby, like, arm. He understands defenses. He's played a lot of ball and he's going to play even more ball coming up. I just, to me right now, if I had to kind of place a stamp on who, who's your guy? And then seeing, like, the way he carries himself and the leadership and picking Peyton's brain after, and it's like the Manning passing academy is what it is. And you can get, you can get a lot of good information. I'm. I'm not letting it skew and I know. So I read all the comments and I'm like, oh, the Manning passing academy really, really put you over the edge with certain things. You know, it's good. It's good to get to know, like, who the guys are and who wants to compete. Processes the information and can kind of pass it along to younger guys who are trying to be in their shoes one day. So, yeah, that's where I am on club.
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We could go over the tape, which we have, and, and I, and I love his tape and all the things you've just said are true and, and all the traits. I, I agree with everything you've said there. I will say this I think momentum and confidence are more important to the quarterback position than any other position maybe in sports. And I think he's poised to have to springboard off a really good end of the year and have a monster 2025. And I think that matters. I think when you look at the supporting Cassie has around him, the confidence that he was playing out with at the end of the year, plus all those tools, I, I just think that he's going to be a guy that's going to have a big year. Everything's going to come together for him and that's that. You know, when you're a quarterback playing with confidence and there's another quarterback we'll talk about in a minute who I have, I have concerns about this, but when you're playing with confidence and you really get things rolling, you look like a different player. And I think that's going to be Kate Klebnik this year.
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Yeah. And, and it's our job as evaluators to kind of sift out like put the sand in the sifter and kind of sift out the talent and the projection despite the. The tools around the supporting cast to a certain degree. But it's also like it very clearly at times. And you could say the same thing. We'll get to Carson Beck in a little bit and like it's. And, and. And Drew Aller, like is it the receivers or is the quarterback. In certain things he does well. Right. With club Nick is this is a really good opportunity to show now with a full year with some younger receivers. Antonio Williams is a, he's a great playmaker. Had some drops, inconsistency. Wesco Bryant. Wesco is like you coming in. It was, it was Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith and. And Wesco. Right. It were.
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Yeah.
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Like the three big names in the 2024 recruiting class. So now you've got another year with those guys. You got T.J. mobach as well. Like they've got dudes at receiver.
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Yeah.
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And he's got experience throwing to them and I'm excited to see that like the anticipation. Is it. Is it because Klobnik struggles maybe sometimes or doesn't trust it, Wants to see come open a little bit. Or is it because he had really young receivers and he. And it was smarter for him within that offense to wait for receivers to get open, make sure they were in the right spots. The timing wasn't quite there yet, you know. So that, that's a, that's a step I want to see improve in his game and the Consistency with the deep ball, accuracy. Those are two things I saw in his game that I. I'll be looking at very closely, like under a microscope to see is he improving now with one more year?
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Yeah, I get it when you're saying that. I just want to go back to this really quick. I get it when you're saying that you go and you have to sift out supporting cast sometimes and how good was the supporting cast? And. And I think when I, when we talk about that, I think about Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans at Texas and A and M. I think Mike Evans really helped Johnny Mans out. Right.
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There's.
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Right, there's a.
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You know, Johnny. Mike Evans could catch anything in the zip code. Right. I do think there's also something to be said that, you know, Jaden Daniels having Malik neighbors at LSU and having those kind of players around him, but Malik neighbors specifically, really helps build confidence. And yes, it does. It does amplify your statistics or whatever you want to say. It does pump you up a little bit. But again, it also builds confidence. I think Jaden Daniels, as is the confidence he had in himself as a football player when he arrived at Baton Rouge as compared to when he went to the NFL draft, were vastly different human beings. And I think that's what's going to happen with Kate Clubnick is. Already you're seeing this from Kate Clubnick was this highly recruited kid out of Texas, but I don't know. We don't know if he's going to really turn into the player we thought he was. And now I'm seeing him build confidence at the end of last year and then I think what he can do with this offense and just reach a new level in terms of the tools are there for him to reach another level as a quarterback. And I'm excited to see that happen. I think that's going to happen.
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Same here. I'm also really excited to see Garrett Nussmeier this year. And it bums me out when quarterbacks or any player, you know, it comes in the season with like a little bit of a cloud of like, oh, he's got this tendonitis in his knee and it's a recurring problem and maybe that's why he looked like he wore down over the course of last season. And not just because there was no run game. It was an atrocious run game and, and he had to carry that team. But NUSSM undersized 62 listed at 200. He's probably like 6016 and 2 maybe like 208 at this point. 205. 208 is my guess at this point. Had the interceptions. I'll never forget the. We came on live, you know, one of our first live shows coming on of the Texas A and M game, game and, and Connor our, our executive producer Connor Nevins was like, and he put it perfectly. He's like he was feeling himself, man, you know, but it also was what I was on, on social media and it's like the first like 10 minutes of that game, it's like he was my QB1. He's my QB1. He was my QB1 in early September. He was my QB1 in, in August. No, mine in July. It was like, everyone slow down, my man needs some more. I know, I know he's a fourth year player at lsu, but he's a one year starter. We're only a few games into his first year as a starter and there's going to be some growing pains. And sure enough like a few minutes later he, he was feeling himself, tried to throw that. It was a deep out or now he came back to his left and threw that interception and the floodgates came, came rushing open right? And it was Marcel Reed comes in and the LSU defense isn't ready. And like he went through this like three game span with like five interceptions and didn't really fully look like himself until late in the season. But. And then the bowl game he, I thought he looked really good after he had a little rest. So I say all of that like the tendonitis is certainly something that, that's new information for me and adds a little cloud of concern. But we have, we have a lot of time to figure that out. Let's see how we get through the season.
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Especially that offensive line. Brian Kelly seems to think that they got that offensive line figured out. But Brian.
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Did you see the quotes from Brian.
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Kelly about the offensive line?
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I've been around and I'm paraphrasing. I've been around a lot of really good offensive lines and I know we lost some guys to the NFL.
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I think the starts in the fourth overall pick.
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I'm paraphrasing, that's what he said.
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And I'm in my mind, I'm like, bro, you just lost the fourth overall pick to, to the New England Patriots. Like I. In a third round offensive tackle on the other side, I mean four starters to the draft. And I'm not saying, I'm not buying what he's selling because he knows better than I do. But I, I'M I'm not buying it until I. I take it for a chest drive, you know what I mean? Like, I. You could tell me that offensive line's fixed and it's great and all that. We'll see. But it does. As it relates to Nussmeier, it's a little concerning that there's some question marks up front with the banged up knee. I hope that. I hope that doesn't come into play. I hope we get to see what he can do.
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Yeah. And so that's obviously a big test, but going off of the tape and seeing his ability to anticipate throws and his timing, the way he carries the dudes. Baker Mayfield, man, when he's rolling, oh, my gosh. Like, the. Just the urgency he plays with, how much he trusts his arm, even to a fault sometimes. And we want to see him kind of find that sweet spot. He just plays the game with. With a knack. It's like he's just got a knack, you know, And I just.
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He's smart, you know?
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Yes.
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There's a lot of different variables.
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There is that obviously the quarterback coach. He was a quarterback in the NFL quarterback coach for a long time. Now he's the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. Like, it's in his blood, right? It's in his DNA and his. It's, like, raging through his bloodstream, and you can see it. And he plays the game with a level of confidence and understanding and instincts that none of these other guys do. And you want to be around this guy, you know, he's that like, everyone, whether it was basketball, baseball, football, everyone knows that guy. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I want to be around Nuss.
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The gamer.
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Yeah, Gamer. Just like, he's got this. You know what I mean? Like, he's got. I get it. Yeah. Every team that's good has. Oh, that's my guy. He's got this.
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And you want that guy to be your quarterback or in basketball, your point guard. He's kind of the glue. Guy's not the right term, but he just brings everybody together. Everyone's happy around him. Everyone's having a good time without, you know, without it being a clown show. It's. That's not what I'm saying. It's. It is tough to describe a little bit. Right?
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It's tough to describe, but he's like, he. But he's. He's it, Right? Yeah, he fits that. So, yeah, I'm excited. But I'm also like, I. Like, I hope it all comes Together because. Because he's just so. He's so good and he's got all the things you look for. But. But I also say this, recognizing, he's. He's not as big as Drew Aller. He has a good arm, but it's not like. It's not like Allers or some other guys. He's not as mobile. Certainly no one's as mobile as, as. As Sellers. So, like, there's going to be people inside each draft room that are like, yeah, I'm just not quite as. As much a nice guy. I like them. I. I could see late first early. So, like, I like him, but I'm not sure we're gonna. We're gonna rest our franchise on this guy. There will be those guys. I'm certain of it. Okay, so he's fascinating, but I've got him number two, then there in the, in the tier one Sellers. And I know this is your guy, and I see why. I'm going to caveat every single time we talk about him. I really hope he plays another season after this at South Carolina, but I'm.
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With you on that.
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It's. Yeah, it's our job as evaluators. And it's different than Arch because, yes, Arch is eligible for the 2026 draft, and maybe he winds up coming out. Maybe he has a monster year. He goes back and talks to Archie, he talks to his dad, talks to his uncles and says, this bubble's too much. I actually think I can develop more as a rookie somewhere. They put together a deal with the team that's going to. Whether maybe the Rams moving up, Browns moving up.
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Dude, I saw a video of Jeremiah Smith doing a meet and greet at a, like, a local shoe store. It is out of control. I mean, it looked like there was 20, 000 people in that building. I can't imagine Arch has got to be dealing with the same stuff. I know you've mentioned it. I know it's a different guy, but, dear God, it's a different world out there. I mean, he was a different world. He. He might as well have been. You know, I, I don't know if there's pro meet and greets like that. I mean, it was insane. Grown men waiting in line to meet this kid. It is.
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And that's the, that's the information I've gotten and I've told you, like, I'm. I. I was just texting again with Archie the other day, and I'm honored to be a part of now the Manning. I'm. I'm on the voting, the small voting group for the. The Manning quarterback Award. Right? Oh, oh, awesome. For the quarterback award. Right? So. And I know he's right. That is the process. But if. And it's a big if, and it's not something they're even entertaining, like, we got to go play ball. We have games like, stop. And I know exactly what Archie's doing. Like, he's not. Like, that's not what we're planning on. That's not what we signed up for. Texas has done their part. We're going to do our part. We're going to be here next season. Let's. Let's get the noise out of there. Let's focus on his first year as a full time starter. But the only thing that could change it is if this young man who is wise and mature beyond his years comes back and says, you know what? You know what, Gramps? I don't know what he calls them. Archie. It's probably not gramps. You know, you know what names, namesake, you know what, Uncle Peyton, Uncle Eli. You know what, dad, you know what, Mom, I hear you and I try, I'm trying to, but I just think I could develop better. Not in this bubble of Austin, Texas, but we'll see. My point in saying all this is I'm including Sellers in this list because he had, he does have a full year as a starter, and that's the difference. Mendoza has a full year starter. Levitt has a full year.
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Did you consider not putting Sellers on your board?
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I did.
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B
20, 20 years old. I mean, I did too.
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I did too. But I think because there is a full year of starting experience, this would make two full years in the SEC that it's. I don't want to, I don't want to say it's far more likely. It feels. It just feels more fair. More fair.
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It's a different situation.
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A
It's a different situation. So with Sellers, because. Because of who the type of quarterback he is, where it's mobility first. And we've seen a lot of these guys. Lamar Jackson was not a great passer coming out. Josh Allen was wildly erratic coming out. Jalen Hurts was not a great passer. If he was so great, he would. Nick Saban wouldn't have said, you know, two is coming in okay. Yeah, they all developed. They all got better in the NFL. And you only have, like, this is the difference in today's NFL at quarterback position than what we were used to growing up and really up to, like, I don't know, 10 years ago is that, is that quarterbacks who have the mobility can. They don't need all the answers to the test in terms of understanding defenses, understanding protections, understanding where to go with the football. They, they don't have to think like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees. They don't have to because they have the mobility to offset that. So the answers that you don't have as a rookie, you can get by. By, by running around and creating and extending and doing all those things that Jalen Hurts did early on, that Lamar Jackson did early on, that Josh Allen with Brian Dable did early on. Sellers has that. Yeah. So what Sellers is today as a passer, in terms of our film evaluation from last season, is not going to be what we see in October or at the end of the season, and it's not going to be what we see in 2026, whether that's in the NFL or in college football. Okay. So that's why we're, we're throwing him in here. I can confidently say he's got this special trait of mobility. It's speed, it's twitchiness, it's extending its instincts on the move that nobody else in this class had has. Jalen Milro had the same thing. It got him drafted in the third round. He not only didn't get better as a passer this past year, he regressed in terms of understanding what that new regime wanted from him.
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B
I agree.
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A
And the closer we got to the draft, the more reports we got about the frustration in Tuscaloosa with him. His accuracy and short and intermediate and timing and throwing the ball, anticipating, throwing his spots didn't get better. And in some regards, like actually may have regressed. Okay, great. Still got, still got drafted in the third round. So this is why I put Sellers in here. Like Sellers is going to. I like this is a like SEC honor roll. And by the way, Milro, super smart too. Super smart in the classroom just didn't translate to the field. Sometimes I see it with Sellers. You know why I see it with Sellers? Because you look like early in the season, last year, entirely too many like he was. What game was it first early on we talked about it. Go back and watch our show on Sellers. Maybe it was ls it was, it was like scary. He got, he got front side sacked, strip sacked like multiple times in like two, like back to back games. There's two or three consecutive games they were throwing the same stuff at him and he wasn't adjusting. Then all of a sudden the light started to come on. So I see a guy who's going to continue to improve the mental part and I'm certain with his mechanics and the consistency, the reporting is that he's.
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B
Making big time strides as a pocket passer.
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A
That's.
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B
And take a grain of salt.
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A
Yeah, I know, I know. I've heard the same thing. And so while scouts right now, when I talk to them are like I don't, I don't, I don't know. Like I, Is he the next Milroe? Like is he not gonna. Or is it falling more in line with what you saw in terms of the progression from the beginning of the year to the end of the year as a first year starter and then the reports you're hearing out of South Carolina. Right. So I, I believe in him but what's best for him might be another year in college football. But if, if he chooses to leave for the NFL, you can't tell me he's not going to be in this first year of quarterbacks.
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B
No, I agree. I mean I listen, I, I compared him to Josh Allen when we did the, the summer series on the quarterbacks and I stand by that. I mean you talked about it already. Josh Allen was not a pinpoint accurate passer coming out. But I see that same body type. I see that same kind of toughness.
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A
Well, minus like 4 inches but yeah.
- [37:22]
B
How, how tall is sellers? He's only 6 2.
- [37:24]
A
He's listed 6 3. I stood next to him in Thibodeau. So you think Louisiana. I'm going six two. But I, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not. Okay. Hell bent on it.
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B
But yeah, I see that big strong quarterback.
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A
Yes, yes.
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B
What I see.
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A
Tightly packed. He's, he's listed at 240 and looking at like his lower body and like that wouldn't. That doesn't surprise.
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B
I think at the end of the Missouri game where he just. I called him Superman. I thought he took over. I think he's in the mix to be the first quarterback taken. I really do believe that where we are in the process right now, we'll see how the rest of this year unfolds. I'm, you know we're talked about a couple of the other issues with the other quarterbacks or positives I guess in Clubnick's case. I wonder about South. What South Carolina surrounded him. Nick harbor is an absolute freak. We've talked about that.
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A
The receiver heard a lot of good things from him in camp too by the way.
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B
We'll see. He's not, he has not been a polished guy up until this point, so we'll see what the supporting cast looks like for him. But again, natural ability I the thing for me, I'll take Stellar's ceiling over where Nussmeier's ceiling. I mean, he's got a much higher ceiling than Nussmeier. So Nussmeier might be a little bit higher in terms of where he is or a little bit better in terms of where he is in the process of developing as a quarterback. But I actually have sellers ahead of Nussbauer. I have sellers right next to Club.
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D
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C
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A
Tier 2 Fernando Mendoza let's throw that up. Tucker with the the tears again. Fernando Mendoza from Indiana, Sam Levitt from Arizona State and Drew Aller from from Penn Penn State. Obviously we'll get to Aller in a minute and I I can already I can feel my my phone getting warmer from all the comments and responses on Aller and I and I do want to say this. I'm not blind. I actually likes a lot like a lot of things I see on tape. I think he's a competitive son of a gun. I think he plays more. It's hard to explain. More athletic than he actually is because he's so competitive. He's got instincts on when to take off, where to take off, what situations in which to take off. He grinds out first downs when they need it. And. And he got so, so much better in 2024 than he was in 2023. Like marked improvement.
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B
Are we get into him now or we just. We just get into him now. I mean, you're already. You're already starting to talk about him.
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A
Sure. Yeah. I went back because the question is why isn't he at least at the bottom of tier one? And. Holy. Why is he at the bottom of tier two? Todd. So go ahead.
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B
Yeah, I would. I. You know what? I. I guess I'll just throw it back to you. I. I went back and watched everything and after watching him again, I would say, holy. Todd. Why is he not at least at the top of tier 2? Because I do think he's in that. He's right in that mix to be maybe the fourth quarterback in the. In tier one. Let me say this, and I want to you say he got better last year. I agree on some level. Let's be like I went back and looked. He completed 53.2% of his passes with six touchdowns and three interceptions over the last four games of the season. The games that matter the most.
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He didn't get better as the season progressed. He got bet his play as a whole in 2024 was better than 2023 is my point.
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B
When it mattered most, when we had to have big games. Now, Mensch. The supporting cast wasn't great. I understand that. Sporting cast wasn't great. And there's a big butt coming Penn State fans. So just hear me out. But that those are not good numbers. And I am concerned about can he elevate in those big game situations. This is year three as a starter. Let's see you do it on the flip side. And he's inconsistent. He is wildly inconsistent. To me, the footwork gets inconsistent. He misses throws that he makes and, And. But when he. He makes throws that other guys don't make too. And there are some just unbelievable, beautiful throws on tape where he gets the battle out on time. His ability in terms of anticipation, arm strength, the way he drives into windows over the middle of the field is. Is unique. The way he. He drives seam balls, hole balls. There are. There are certain throws that he's just really good at making. And you look at his Size. And you are. I. I couldn't agree with you more. The way you say it, he is. He plays more athletic than he actually is.
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A
I don't.
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B
There's no other way of saying it. I don't think he. I think he's gonna go to the combine, and I doubt he tests because I'm guessing those testing numbers weren't. He's not running great.
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A
He's never running a force. But throw on the tape.
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B
He's running for a first down. He's.
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A
He's.
- [43:22]
B
He's buying a little extra time. He's moving around the pocket. He. He can. He is mobile enough. You know, when you look at a guy who's. What is he, 63, 245? I think he's 245. He's a big boy.
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A
He's 65. 238 is what.
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B
He's 238. Okay, so good thing you said that. But he's a big, big quarterback, and for a guy who's that big, they usually don't. They have some heavy feet, but he moves around. All right. I went back and I watched and I thought.
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A
I think he has heavy feet, but go ahead.
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B
There are concerns about certain games, and I want to see him elevate again. Hopefully they've put a better supporting cast on it. People seem to think that that's going to be the case. We'll see. But there is. There. There's a lot of talent there, man. There is a lot of talent. And I would put him ahead of Mendoza and. Who was the other guy you had in Tier two?
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A
Sam Levitt.
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B
Yeah, I would put him ahead of Mendoza and Levitt. I think he's more in that mix of Tier one.
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A
Listen, he is big, he's smart, he's tough, he's strong, he's competitive. He sees the entire field. He goes through his progressions quickly, and my goodness, he has an easy stroke and a ton of energy on the.
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B
I love his throwing motion, man. I love his throw emotion.
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A
He's central casting with so many elements of the position, but he's one of the most complex quarterback evaluations I can remember, at least in a long time, because. And there's. There's two things that. That really irk me, and they're not. It's not even including the big games. Okay. I'm talking about the. The traits like, I'm talking about what I see on tape. And yes, that. That has to be monitored this year as he enters the season. And we'll get to. We're going to start with 9 through or 10 through 12. We're gonna do our top 12 rankings coming up starting this week and then into early next week. Okay. We're gonna go through the top 12 teams in four different shows. And he's loaded and they're going to be up there in the top three. I can tell you that right now. Spoiler alert. The agility is concerning because he's. He gets away with it. With all those things we just talked about, the instincts, the feel, the toughness, the competitive, all those things. I just don't know against NFL pass rushers. And maybe that's part of why in big games, big games happen against talented teams. Talented teams typically have dudes up front defensively who are running 4 5, 4 6, 47 at the worst at 250, 260 pounds.
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B
Right.
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Guys who are running 49 at 305 pounds. Tracking his ass down. Okay. And getting him down. So I want to see a little bit more agile. And I know it's like we had one off season. What do you think he's going to be like a ballerina? No, but I think. But I do know when you combine it with fast processing and speeding things up with like agility work all off season and getting his body even better and even more right. I want to see a little bit lighter, fleet of foot aller. That's the easy part, the hard part to evaluate and go back and watch our show. I'll go. I go into so much more detail and we don't have time today. We're not doing the deep dive that we already did. But is it the wide receivers or is it because they know he is so much more effective throwing kind of middle field in breaking where he's looking at it come comebacks, receivers open, guys where he can see the jersey number in front of him. I don't remember a single quarterback I've ever evaluated that's at this level where we're talking about potentially first round, where I'm like, there's some kind of visualization problem. And I don't know if that's the stem or the root of it, but there's something with receivers that are moving away from him, post corners, rolled outs, flares out of the backfield, you know, like out. Yeah, jump offs.
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I started watching it again yesterday. I was like, oh, maybe it's not as pronounced as McShade thinks it is. Maybe it's not there. And then it was, you know, that Leonardo DiCaprio meme from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, where he's like pointing at the screen, he's like, oh, oh, there it is, there it is. It started popping up, man. There was, there was. There was more than a handful of throws where I was like, oh, that's. There it is again. There it is again. And he makes them every once in a while. It's not like he misses all of them, but there are enough to be concerned.
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So there's a new supporting cast. They brought in transfer portal, brought in some receivers. They've got a young guy or two that is elevating and so like, so let's see. Maybe it, maybe he just wasn't comfortable. Maybe the receivers weren't worth. We're gonna find out though. So this is an important year for Eller. Also an important year. Fernando Mendoza, new system going from Cal to Indiana. Okay. I think the system fits him perfectly. It's not a huge departure from what he was doing at Cal. There's going to be a little bit more of that run, run element, like design run stuff, which I think he's going to provide a big time boost for Indiana in terms of what they get out of that position. Create some numbers in the run game, keep defenses a little bit more honest. Right. But I'm kind and, and I want. This was your point and I totally agree. And as you watch more tape as the season progressed last year at Cal, it became more pronounced. Just like my complaints or filing my grievances against Aller. I went back and watched more because you filed a grievance on. There's just too many turnover worthy plays.
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B
Right.
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A
Like just mistakes you can't make. So now I want to see in year two with new receivers, with a new environment, with new supporting cast in a system that's not completely, you know, different from what he did at Cal, but it's still a new system, new coaches. Can he cut down on those mistakes? Can he protect the football, make sounder, smarter decisions, not make certain throws that he was making? Because it kind of felt at times to me like the game was moving too fast, the moment was too big. It didn't see something like it just was a. Can it slow down for him this year? Because what I see is a guy who's 6, 5, 2, 25 runs well, more importantly than, or just as importantly as the runs. Well, throws really well on the run right and left, like on the move. He's very accurate, I would argue almost. I remember watching, like, is he more accurate on the move than he is like actually in the pocket? So I just I. I want to see more patience as a passer. But those traits, man, like inside and outside the pocket. I saw touch on his throws, I saw some timing on his throws. I saw the mobility, I saw the instincts. But kind of patience in the pocket and making better decisions that those are going to be critical for, for Mendoza and then Levitt, like he's Jared Goff to me. Like I just really. Right.
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B
He's almost J.J. mcCarthy of that class too. I'm telling you. And I made that comparison. I know already. But he's the sneaky guy in this group. I know this is. He's a he. This is his second year as a starter. We'll see if he comes out. He's the guy that. I think when you get deeper into the draft process, you start hearing the teams like him more than maybe the media scouts.
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That's where I am with them. So it's not as much of an indictment. I just want to make this point real quickly and go with it. It's not as much of an indictment on Aller that I've got him below those other two guys. It's me planting a flag saying I know there's some buzz and some love and sometimes there's like too much that goes like preseason. Everyone's trying to make sure that they're make their statement and Mendoza this and love it. Like, no, I'm telling you. I actually think both of those guys have a chance to be whether it's first round, like starting NFL quarterbacks. True.
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B
Yeah.
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A
He.
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B
I look at Levin, I think there's going to be some buzz that will build and people will look at him be like, oh, he's in the Big 12. Maybe Arizona State has a, you know, a step back after Scatterable leaving and you know, they don't have the same kind of year that they just, they just had this magical run. It's going to be kind of tough to them for them to do it again. But I think scouts are going to love him because of the way his, his play action game is. He's got some pretty pro style to him. He'll be his second year. He's a competitive dude. He's super competitive guy. I think scouts are going to fall in love with him, be like, you know, middle of the first round. I don't know, man. Like maybe this kid and we'll see how it all unfolds again. Maybe not come out this year, but I think he's one of those guys when you get close to the draft, there's going to be some building momentum for him.
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Speaking of, I think he can be a starter in the league and building momentum. Get to tier three. Pull it up, Tucker, if you don't mind. I think John Mattier can be a starting quarterback in the NFL and more importantly in this, in this quest for young Mr. Mater. I've talked to a couple of different scouts recently who, who agree that no, no way this guy, if he, if he performs this year, no way this guy gets out of the second round. I think he could wind up being in the first round is what I. What I was told. Okay. Top 100. Absolutely. Okay. But my goodness, is a play. Does a. Does a player at any position. Did a. Did a player at any position sign up for more of a one year free agent prove it opportunity than matir and it falls in line with who this guy is.
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B
Right.
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A
Because I've now been able to talk to some people at Oklahoma that know and have been around them now and are like, no, this. This guy's the deal. This guy is the. He's. He's for real. Yeah, on the field we see this stuff, but like off the field, locker room, meeting room, gym, and the, you know, the strength and conditioning, all of it. Leader, competitor, like, never stops, like blinding love for the, for the game and competing in his guys and all that. So it takes that kind of crazed lunatic to sign up for this, Right? Have you looked at Oklahoma schedule, son?
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B
I have. We're going to get into this because they're in your. Another spoiler alert. They're in your, your top 12. And I have a, I have a big time question with you about how you think they're gonna, they're gonna get through that.
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A
I mean, it's. Yeah, it's. Who do they. They. Michigan early on. Right. And another. And then they've got, they've got this gauntlet, okay? It's Murderers Row, Texas, right here. Yeah. Texas, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri and LSU to end the regular.
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B
Season at South Carolina too, by the way, which is different.
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A
He could have just stayed at Washington State. He could have transferred to a bunch of. Is. He's saying, throw him a hat in the ring because you know what? Like Johnny, man, take all the Johnny Manziel nonsense and Crate and all the off the field problems that we now are certain of and probably even more than people speculated at the time that he was dealing with Johnny Manziel got to play against Alabama. Got to go prove it. Baker Mayfield Got to go prove it. Right?
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B
Yep.
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A
And they weren't sec, I don't think, at the time, but he played that Georgia team in the Rose Bowl. I was on the field for that game, Right.
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B
And he.
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A
And they more than did their part. Overtime, back and forth. It's kind of cut from that same Texas high school football. Kyler Murray, same deal. Baseball player. He's going to go play. He was number nine overall pick for the Oakland A's. Gonna go play baseball. Like, nah, he. He's playing football. But does that work? He's undersized. He runs around. It's crazy. It's like mayhem. Those guys played SEC ball. Big time football, big time games. He stays at Washington State. You feel good about him on day two. He goes to the SEC now and that schedule, okay. If he performs at that schedule, everyone who has any doubt, including myself, like, those mechanics are a disaster. What's he doing, like, flicking his wrists. His arm angles are all over the place. Why is he taking three steps away after the end of his follow through? Like, none of that matters. Mensch, right. Is the result. And I learned from my. One of my biggest mistakes, Mahomes. I was too caught up in the.
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B
In the.
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A
In the mechanics and the footwork and the. The little things. And I didn't put enough focus on the result, the throws, where they landed, how he got it there. The. You know, and so Matier is in that Momes, Baker, Kyler, Johnny, football. Like, he's kind of cut from that same cloth where it's mayhem. It's dizzying. Right? I love it, but it's awesome.
- [56:59]
B
It's so much fun.
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A
And. But he. But by signing up for this, and he knew the schedule, he knew who they were playing. He's like, yeah, I'm good. I know I can. And I'm bringing my offensive coordinator with me, and we're going to do the same shit, our Buckle and I that we did at Washington State. And it's going to work in the sec. Let's go. Because he could have transferred somewhere else. He could have stayed at Washington State, put up big numbers, and everyone's like, oh, that's great. Wonder what he would have done in the sec. So this is like a free agent, one year. Bet on myself. Deal. And he's going in, like, straight into the lion's den. Yeah, he is. We don't. My work's done. Your work is an evaluator. Scouts throughout the league's work. Like, it's like popcorn. The tape's gonna tell us, right? The tape is absolutely gonna tell us. Does all this crazy mayhem like 60 minutes of hell. Like old Arkansas basketball, whatever that was. Was it 40 minutes of hell? Right?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Is. Is that gonna work at a level that. That very close. That is the closest thing that we have in a developmental league, if you will, that emulates what he's going to see in the NFL.
- [58:15]
B
Can't wait to see it.
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A
It's literally. I was talking to Dan the other yesterday. It's literally of all the storylines in all of college football, what Mattier does at Oklahoma is my number one storyline coming into this season. Really? Maybe number two behind Arch, I was gonna say. Yeah. So it's Arch and Matier.
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B
Okay.
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A
And you know what? Viewers are fascinated. You know what did our best numbers of any show that we did the.
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B
Entire off season, which the.
- [58:51]
A
The passing casual one were second mater on his own.
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B
No way.
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A
Fans know. Fans are. Fans are. Fans are hip. Like, audiences are hip. College football people know, like, what is going on. What is the story? Matier's the story.
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B
That's crazy. A year ago we were talking about him, you know, not even a year ago. I mean, we're talking about him doing things in Washington State, like, yeah, but, you know, it's. Must watch tv, but maybe, maybe not for the NFL. Here we go.
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A
We'll see two other guys on this tier three list. Carson Beck from at Miami now and Sawyer Robertson. Baylor going in his second year of Baylor. Okay. Robertson's my. Let's go to Robertson. We'll finish with Beck. Robertson's my. Like, I want to make sure you know about this guy. There's something there. I watched his tape. I watched his tape. I think Baylor's underrated coming into the year. I think Robertson's underrated coming into the year. I think he kind of got lost down there in the Big 12 team. That wasn't great last season. He's got size, he's got mobility, he's creative. Pleasantly surprised. He's just a natural playmaker. He leads receivers open. Came to that Manning passing academy. You know why I did his tape?
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B
Because he saw him down there.
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And on Friday night, I told you, it was like. It was like talking to like. Like God. It was like. Like religion, you know, you hear like fan. Like religion. What a God, family, football. Like, it felt like it was all in one place that one night on Friday Night Lights in Thibodau, Louisiana. And it wasn't Arch, the son and grandson of and the nephew of. It wasn't Nuss. It wasn't Clubnik, you. It wasn't Sellers, you know, who kicked everyone's ass. Robertson on the move. Mobility also pocket throws most accurate. Hit all the targets like. And. And did it like, no problem. It was pretty cool to see Carson Wentz, Jordan Love. Those are two guys that I was kind of thinking back on. Jordan Love. When I like, like coming into the year, just keep an eye on these guys. Like, there's stuff I like.
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B
Yeah.
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And then they wind up going where they went. It was once went number two. Overall. There was more. A little more hype. He was just from niffs. Yes. Once Love was kind of like this big question mark throughout the whole process. What did he go 19 to Green Bay or whatever?
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It was the middle first, I think.
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Yeah. So I'm not saying Robertson's gonna be that. I'm not trying to put like a target on his back or anything. I'm just saying keep an eye on this guy. There's something more there. Carson Beck though. We talked about mater. We'll. We'll wrap up with Carson here. We talked about Matier and what he signed up for. And like, let's go. Lion's den gun barrel. I'm up for it. That guy have a different feeling on. It's not as risky, but it would like if he had a. If he has a PR firm. Like, if there was such thing, let's say as a football PR firm, they. And he hired them. It would be one of the most brilliant jobs. The more I've like sat back and thought about this.
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B
I can't wait to hear this. Go ahead.
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I thought I've spent a little time yesterday thinking about it. It's almost like he went to this, like. Like the top of the line. The. The best PR football PR firm in the world. Okay, what's my next step? George is willing to let me go. I've kind of run the course here. Yeah.
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B
You said the shelf life was over.
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My shelf life was over at Georgia. They're happy to take Gunner Stockton on. Who's not as talented, not as big, not. Doesn't have the arm. All the things as me. Because they want a fresher breath, a breath of fresh air. They want someone who's like a program. Like they're yearning for one of them. Beck goes down to Miami. It's who's he dating? Who's he now broken up with? Who is he doing this, that. The other thing. It's Lamborghinis. It's Lamborghini stolen. It's all this stuff. But in lost in all that in the off season was the fact that he's Going to a Miami football program that's not in the sec. He's not dealing with all like that madness. There's madness, but it's not that madness. There's nothing like the SEC madness like the fan base that, like. And they, they're. They're breaking into quarterbacks, social medias and, and Venmos and everything. Almost on the daily now. It's a little bit quieter down there in South Florida, a little bit more of a bulb, like isolated. Right? And he's going in. And now every report is, man, this guy's.
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B
He.
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He's. He's like a leader. He's showing up early, staying late. He's doing all the right things. Teammates love him on the field. His accuracy's improved, really fitting in the system, more decisive. Seeing it like the reports now. And, and it's almost like this PR firm said, wait, wait, wait until like the week before the season, 10 days, two weeks before the season, and then start leaking this stuff. Now, obviously, I'm making all this. This is like the, like me just kind of being, you know, tongue in cheek. But honestly, it couldn't play out any better. And oh, by the way, that Miami team's loaded that offensive line with crystal ball, right?
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B
Yeah, the offensive line's great. I think the running game is going to be great. We'll see about that passing attack. They lost their top six receivers.
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We'll get to. On. On Friday. We're going to get to Miami as well. But there's a lot of talented guys, and reports are coming out that, that they're. They're like this. This group could be better than even with, like, even with Horton leaving. It is a. So my point is this. Beck gets this kind of pass and fresh start, and it's amazing what one year can do to rehabilitate a reputation and to force people to look at you very differently. And if he goes out and has a monster year and Miami's in the mix at the end, like they were with Cam Ward last year, and they're putting up big numbers and the offense is running and he's a little bit more accurate and his receivers aren't having to work for it the way they did at Georgia. You know what becomes the storyline? Georgia doesn't take care of their receivers or their passing game. There they are a defensive program that runs the football and has really good tight ends. And the tight ends kind of sucked the year after they lost the best tight end that they had ever had in Brock Bowers, arguably the best tight end that Ever, ever played college football like one, you know, it was the receivers and they struggled with drops and they weren't in the right place. And now he gets somewhere where it's a system that fits him that's passing friendly. Cam Ward was there and he had a huge year. Beck comes in, he has a huge year. Shannon's an awesome developer. You watch how quickly the rhetoric around Carson Beck will change if he does his part in the next couple months.
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B
We'll see. I mean, they open with Notre Dame. It's gonna be a, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a real eye, but we're right there. We'll see how, how good that that preseason team is against a notary.
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But it's all manageable. Yes, agreed.
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B
He could also take his.
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And they got Florida on the 20th. I'm pulling it up right now. Florida on the 20th, but it's manageable after that. You got FSU on the 4th. Let's see how good they are.
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B
Yeah, we'll see.
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Supposed to be a lot better, but we'll see. They got a buy and then Louisville on October 17th. And then it's just kind of a normal ACC run in November. There's five games. SMU is going to be really good. So you're looking at like, yes, Notre Dame, Florida and, and SMU is three really tough games. But then it's Syracuse, North Carolina State, Virginia Tech. Pit like all good programs, but ain't Texas, South Carolina, Michigan, Texas, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri and lsu. Right.
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B
There's enough meat on that bone, though. If he does do well against Notre Dame. If he does do well against Florida. The flip side of that argument is there's enough meat on that bone because also there's a potential clubnik matchup in the ACC championship game. Right. Miami could play Clemson in the ACC championship game. That would be a great, you know, that would be a great storyline for Beck to get there and play well. Yeah. So there's, you know, there's, there's the other way of looking at it. So. Yeah, it could help, it could help him.
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And we, and we got a fresh start starting on Wednesday. Top 12. We're going to go 10 through 12 on Wednesday, Friday, we're back three times a week. Just, just stick with us. We're, we're rocking and rolling now. Three times, three times a week for the McShay show now through the college football season. That's all you need to know. Appreciate you being here. Another five star men.
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B
Five stars.
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Five stars. See you.