Week 10 Reaction: Arch Arrives, ACC Chaos, and Inevitable Ohio State | The McShay Show

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The McShay Show – Week 10 Reaction: Arch Arrives, ACC Chaos, and Inevitable Ohio State

Podcast: The McShay Show
Host/Analysts: Todd McShay (primary); Steve Palazzolo, Daniel Jeremiah
Date: November 2, 2025
Episode Theme:
A high-energy Saturday night college football wrap-up, spotlighting Arch Manning’s true arrival, mounting chaos in the ACC playoff race, the SEC’s dominance and drama, and analysis of Ohio State’s relentless march toward the playoff. The discussion intersperses deep prospect breakdowns, fierce banter, and rapid-fire recaps—capturing the unique, nerdy, and passionate tone of McShay and crew as they synthesize a wild week in college football.

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Main Takeaways

• Arch Manning’s real breakout at Texas: “Today felt different.”
  Texas and college football got the full ‘Arch experience’—McShay breaks down how his eye discipline and composure finally matched the immense hype, signaling a new era for the program.
• SEC remains king, but chaos brews beneath Alabama and A&M.
  Ole Miss’s ugly wins, Georgia’s “cardiac kids” routine, and the Texas breakthrough set up a late-season logjam with playoff & draft consequences.
• ACC faceplants: Georgia Tech’s loss, Miami meltdown, and multiple contenders eliminated.
• Ohio State: “Inevitable.”
  With Julian Sayin’s ascension, dynamic wide receivers, and brutal defense, the Buckeyes look unstoppable—even as skepticism about their schedule lingers.
• Wide Receiver Prospects Galore:
  2025 is shaping as the deepest WR class in memory.
• Prospect Deep Dives:
  Kewan Lacy (Ole Miss), CJ Allen (Georgia), Lenore Sellers (South Carolina), and more.

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Best Things We Saw Today (03:29)

Ole Miss’ team-first spirit:

• “This team plays very well together. There’s no like players that are just playing for themselves, you know?” – Knox Kiffin (04:14)
• Lane Kiffin’s son, Knox, and Kevin Smith Jr. (both sons of Ole Miss coaches), are already media personalities: “Under the Lights” podcast spotlights the family legacy and team culture.
• Despite an ugly effort, Ole Miss grinds out a win over South Carolina—exemplifies ‘finding a way.’

SMU Campus Goalpost Surfing:

• “They bring it to the fountain on campus to baptize the goal post.” – Daniel Jeremiah (07:06)
• Marker of a turning-point win for SMU amid rumors of coach Rhett Lashley’s departure, highlighting the ACC’s instability.

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Key Games & Analysis

Oklahoma 33, Tennessee 24 – Live Recap (13:42)

A wild ride at Neyland:

• “That force fumble and 70 yard return, all of a sudden, seven, seven. All the momentum shifted.” (15:36)
• OU’s run game is still a big question—“They cannot run the football against this defense. Oklahoma can’t. And it’s been a problem all season long.” – Daniel Jeremiah (16:00)
• QB John Matier returns to (almost) full health:
  “A 90% John Matier is better than most QBs in the country. It gives OU fans hope…” (18:09)
• Tennessee made a fight with big moments, but Oklahoma’s grit and defensive opportunism changed momentum.
• “It was sloppy, messy, highly entertaining, but my biggest takeaway is John Matier’s back.” (19:00)

Tennessee’s Home-Field Advantage:

• “That Neyland Stadium is no nonsense, especially night games. Their PR department—their social media department—it’s, they are… elite special forces of that kind of stuff.” – Daniel Jeremiah (13:23)

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Ole Miss 30, South Carolina 14 (22:01, 23:00)

• “Tonight was about the run game for Ole Miss… Credit Lane: Hey, we can run the ball on this team. Let’s win a game where we just pound it away.” – McShay
• RB Ke’Wan Lacy’s breakout: 167 yards.
• QB Chambliss struggles as a passer, but the Rebels adapt.
• South Carolina’s Lenore Sellers:
  Prospect talk; consensus that he needs another college season—“The more starts you get, the better off you’re going to be.” (27:02)
  • “He does things that no one else can do… he’s one of those rare talents that can be the face of a franchise. That being said, I’m with you. Why not do it at the college level?” – Steve Palazzolo (27:12)

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Georgia Survives Florida – “The Cardiac Kids” (36:11)

• “If I was a major gambler… bet the second half on Georgia, bet the fourth quarter on Georgia. It’s what they do.” (36:11)
• Florida’s offense strikes first, but Kirby Smart’s in-game adjustments and field-position mastery swing momentum.
  • “Kirby Smart is winning in the margins this year. His team doesn’t have four or five first-rounders on defense… The coaching has become absolutely critical.” (38:31)
• “That 4th down stop—if not for that, you might not be in this position.” (42:12)
• “Zachariah Branch is going to be a big part of what they do…” (43:28), 10 catches for 112 yards.
• RB question: “Is Chauncey Bowens the best back for Georgia? …He’s been more reliable this year.” (46:47)
• Outlook: Young, less dominant than in Kirby’s peak years, but the Bulldogs are impossibly tough in big moments.

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Texas 34, Vanderbilt 30 – The Arch Manning Arrival (53:31)

First Real ‘Arch Manning Game’

• “We all signed up for the Arch Manning show… Today I saw Arch get to be Arch because he knew where to go with his eyes.” (61:29)
• McShay details Arch’s transition from lost-in-the-weeds rookie to confidently controlling the offense:
  “I’ve been there where I don’t know where I’m going with my eyes and it’s a disaster… Today, I saw a guy who was confident, knew exactly where to go with his eyes. Finally, I think it’s going to be different from now on for Arch.” (61:29, 65:30)
• Sarkisian's crucial role: “Sark has put him in some good spots. But today, it was Arch making throws on timing and anticipation.” (64:04)
• Injuries: WR Wingo breaks a huge TD on the first snap, then leaves hurt.
• Distribution: Arch completes passes to 10 different receivers; “When you can see the field… doesn’t matter who the jersey number, the receiver, the speed, the height…” (68:22)
• Vanderbilt’s Diego Pavia gets post-game flowers for refusing to die—“That is human will at its finest.” (55:37)
• TE Eli Stowers: 7 catches/146 yards, 2 TDs—best single-game TE line of the season.

Notable Quote:
“Today was different. It was authoritative. It was confident. And I’m excited to see where it goes from here. Now we can start to work on the evaluation of who Arch Manning is.” – Daniel Jeremiah (65:33)

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Ohio State Dominates Penn State – The “Inevitable” Machine (71:52)

Julian Sayin: “He looks like a truly progressing quarterback that has a lot of talent.”

• 20-23, 316 yards, 4 TDs (71:59).
• “Buy his stock now. It’s too late.” (71:51)
• Steve Palazzolo (skeptical of PSU test): “They’re awesome. Julian Sayin is playing lights out and Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate are freaking awesome. Their defense came in allowing under 6 points per game—that’s silly.” (76:25)
• Discussion on whether OSU’s “soft” schedule means anything, but consensus:
  “There’s no game they go into right now on a neutral site where they’re not favored. And I think by a significant amount.” – Palazzolo (89:28)

Receiver Factory Discussion

• “No one, maybe in the history of college football, has ever coached WRs up like Brian Hartline. They come out as absolute NFL pass-catching machines.” (87:17)
• Carnell Tate: “Wasn’t that confident with the ball in the air last year. Changed both those things.” (85:29)

Notable Quote:
“Now you have a quarterback who’s confident, throwing to them. To see him throw into double coverage—‘Let’s go, you’re running our thing, here we go.’” – Jeremiah (88:15)

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ACC in Disarray (92:56)

Chaos reigns:

• “This was an absolute unmitigated disaster for the ACC today.” – Daniel Jeremiah (92:59)
• Georgia Tech loses to NC State: “They were just down 10–14 points the entire game.” (94:10)
• Miami loses to SMU, and Dabo Swinney melts down after another Clemson debacle.

Miami’s QB Problem

• “Why is it there doesn’t seem to be a lot of confidence in this offense? There’s got to be substance… When things don’t go well or in tough moments… it’s the same reason Athens said, ‘No, thank you.’” (104:00)
• Contrast with last year’s Cam Ward: “He did that. Cam Ward did that for Miami.”

Virginia and Louisville: Paper Tigers

• “Uninspiring. They belong in the top 25, not top 15.” (96:33)
• “ACC might only get one in [the playoff]; the Big 12 is only getting one in. There should be five from the SEC.” (99:53)
• ACC Poll: Both panelists choose Georgia Tech to find a way, but acknowledge wild chaos—“I went with the field. Something crazy is going to happen.” (107:12)

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The TMS Top 12 (Consensus Rankings) (109:10+)

“The Airplane Class” Metaphor (111:03)

• First Class: Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A&M, Alabama
• Business Class: Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon (5–7)
• Economy+: Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, BYU (8–11)
• Final Seat Cut: Texas at 12; Missouri lurking just outside
• Discussion: “If Notre Dame is in because of two great losses, Texas is in for body of work—just beat #9 Vandy, beat Oklahoma.” (119:09)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “A 90% John Matier is better than most QBs in the country.” – Daniel Jeremiah (18:09)
• “Kirby Smart is winning in the margins this year… The coaching has become absolutely critical.” (38:31)
• “Today I saw a guy who was confident, knew exactly where to go with his eyes… Finally, I think it’s going to be different from now on for Arch.” – Daniel Jeremiah (61:29)
• “Julian Sayin… completed 87% today and he looks like a truly progressing quarterback with a lot of talent.” – Daniel Jeremiah (81:28)
• “No one, maybe in college football ever, has coached WRs up like Brian Hartline.” – Daniel Jeremiah (87:17)
• “This was an absolute unmitigated disaster for the ACC today.” – Daniel Jeremiah (92:59)

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Timestamp Guide to Key Segments

• 03:29 – Best things we saw today
• 13:42 – Oklahoma–Tennessee live game breakdown
• 22:01 – Ole Miss–South Carolina; run game focus & prospect talk (Sellers)
• 36:11 – Georgia’s late-game magic vs Florida
• 53:31 – Texas–Vanderbilt; Arch Manning’s arrival; Pavia’s heroics
• 71:52 – OSU–Penn State; Sayin, WR factory, playoff talk
• 92:56 – ACC disaster
• 109:10 – TMS Top 12 rankings and the “airplane” class system
• 119:09 – Texas/Missouri/ND selection logic
• 124:30 – Closing thoughts, fan shoutouts

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Final Thoughts

The mood:
Relentless, nerdy, sometimes combative, but fueled by deep respect for college football and genuine enjoyment of the game’s wildness. McShay, Palazzolo, and Jeremiah blend on-the-fly prospect evals with rapid reaction, big-picture playoff speculation, and the kind of detailed, opinionated banter you only get from lifers.

Bottom line:
Arch Manning has finally arrived, the SEC’s pecking order is far from settled, the ACC is melting down, and Ohio State looks inevitable—but college football’s November chaos is just getting started.

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Transcript

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That we've got a great show tonight. It's gonna be awesome. We've got the TMS top 12. We got to get to. We get the best things that we saw all day. We've got the ACC in an absolute nightmare scenario. We get the SEC delivering once again. And we gotta, we get, we got scores of games that we've got to sift through and figure out what's real and what's not. And I know this for a fact. There's 173 days until the NFL draft bench. And I gotta ask you, ask you, you good?

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm great, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

But I want to start with the. This is the way we start every single live reaction show on a Saturday night. We see the chat is growing. We appreciate everyone for being there. Just looking at right, Haas. I see you. Haas is back. He's been quiet in recent weeks. He's been in and out but I like to see him here, here early. We got Matt Mateus rocking and rolling. Jeremy Godden always trade back's been here since freaking noon. Male kuiper. Who's male Kuiper? I like that. I don't know, man. That sounds our. Our comber foe.

[Steve Palazzolo]

You see that? Heisman doza. I like that. Heisman doza.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, so we got a lot going on but we start every single Saturday night live reaction show with the best things we saw today. And Tucker's behind the scenes wizard, the wizard of Oz and he's got it all fired up for us today. And we'll get Tucker on, get his beautiful face on the screen soon. But he's, you know, he's got too much going on. I'm pressing all the buttons, but Tucker, what do we got first? What do you think? Ole miss finishes up. We're 50 right now going into a bye week. Then we play what, Washington State?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What do you think we finish? We got two hard road games against Georgia. I don't know if they're all that this year, but they're still really good. And then Oklahoma, John Mateer, like, what do you think we do on those away games? Do you think Kewaun has a game he's been having or what? I mean, man, I've been. We're always around the office and I feel like the guys. This team plays very well together. There's no like players that are just playing for themselves, you know? Yeah. Really, they're all. There's no eye. They're all for the team, you know. Yeah, I agree with that because I feel like this team is way cheaper nowadays in this college football. Yeah. All these players cost a lot of money in these big names and they just don't. They don't bond well a player. Yeah. And I feel like this team very bonds well. So I mean if they go out there and execute, they. They could be anybody in the. So that's Knox Kiffin And Kevin Smith Jr. Is also a coach's son on the staff.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I love it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You know who sent that to me on. On X? Who? Lane. That's amazing. Thursday. Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

It's cool that he lets his kid do it. You know what I mean?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Like, lets his kid do it. It was cool that he sent it to me, and I thought that was interesting. But the. The really, the coolest part, to me, it feels like son gets to be a little bit of dad's mouthpiece and something he may not want. Right? The burner account.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Like, kind of like he could say what dad doesn't want to say.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay. And then let's be. Let's be real. There's not much that dad doesn't say. If it's on Lane's mind, it's get. You know, But I.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Do we have a name for that pod? Do we know what the name of the pod is? We got to figure that out. We got to rep the pod man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Knox Kiffin and Kevin Smith Jr. Sons of Ole Miss coaches already on the recruiting radar.

[Steve Palazzolo]

We'll figure it out.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

If we don't have it now. Yeah, I'll figure it out. We'll get it out there under the lights.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Is that what it is?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Under the lights with. With Knox Kiffin? I don't know if you can see on my screen.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, I like the name, too. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Under the lights. So. So Mud Cat media. I just thought it was interesting. He was talking about how, like, the. The players love each other and they're here for. For this team and not necessarily the money and things like that. I just thought that was fascinating and it was not. It was not Ole Miss's best game today, but they get a win 30 to 14 against South Carolina. Grinded it out, battled for each other as. As. As under the Lights podcast host hosts Kevin Smith Jr. And. And Knox Kiffin alluded to. And I just thought that was cool and wanted to share it with our. With our audience.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Awesome. I love.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What do we have Next up? Shooter McGavin.

[Steve Palazzolo]

The shooter's tour.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We should have known. We should have known we were in for it today. Miami. The Canes should have known and then gone surfing. Surfing SMU football. And this is their tradition. I guess they bring it to the. To the fountain on campus to baptize the. The goal post. I mean, listen, you can argue SMU should have had. They were in the College Football Playoff last year. Why we. It was a top 10 win, man. In a season that felt like it was kind of getting away from SMU a little bit. You know, the acc, as we'll get to in a little bit, is kind of wide open. We'll see. We'll see how the whole thing plays out. We could talk. We'll talk about that game in detail. But it's always kind of fun. Like I'll just admit it. It's. It's fun to see the. The students get crazy and get the goalpost out. Last year we saw Vanderbilt after the Alabama game. Walk it down. Was it Broad street and yeah. Is it whatever the main street is there I was on. That was the coolest scene of my professional life is being on that stage in Nashville. I forget which draft like 2018, 2019, whatever it was pre Covid. 2017, 18 and looking down and seeing down. Let's call it Broad street. If it is someone will correct me. And seeing 600,000 human beings there. That's crazy for the NFL draft. Now as. As I joke to Mel like we could. We. We're going to decide that and go with the story that they're all here for us and for the. For the NFL draft when there was a major country concert going on on that stage after. So they. They handled it well. But that was an awesome scene.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But this was an awesome scene in Dallas too for. For the students and. And for the entire program in this. In the same week the Rhett Lashley gets an extension. Kind of squashes all rumors. Ooh, Cincinnati go. Was that Cincinnati or Utah? No, that was Utah. Goes deep up 17 to 7 with three minutes left.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So I mean what that makes me.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Think by the way people were sniffing around Ashley. The. The SMU got word that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh no. No question. And. And if they as they should be.

[Steve Palazzolo]

By the way as they should be.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And if they weren't as seriously as. But the. The agent is going to get that out there anyway. All right. We'll get to all this stuff later. Next up, Tuck.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, here we go. Like here we go. I don't know where the trading at its worst.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Where'd it come from Ty Simpson trading all of a sudden the odds on favorite at plus 200 to be the number one overall pick in the 2026 draft. We don't even know if he's weird be in the 2026 draft. This is going to be a wild run. It's gonna be a wild run from like December, January. Figuring out which quarterbacks are in. I want to talk to you about your boy Lenora Sellers and. And where he. Where he is in the process right now. But it's also good from. From that point on when we know which quarterbacks are in figuring out the draft order and. And which teams need A quarterback. And do. We haven't even. Even enough to get through the top 10 picks where you feel good about them being able to satisfy. Satisfy that need. All right, next up, Tucker.

[Steve Palazzolo]

This is wild.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Could you imagine?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Is that a kid?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Do they. Is that a student or do they pay again? It's a student. It's like, it's such a huge honor. I used to hang out in the back of freezing cold nights in Columbus or raining nights in between, like timeouts and halftime in the back where they.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Where they would like the cheerleaders and Brutus would hang out. I got to be buds with that. That version of Brutus. I did. But he wouldn't break character. I promise you that.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I can only imagine.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I would mess with him. He would. And then he would mess with me on the field. We actually.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He would.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We would go back and forth. Who. That's cool. That's cool. But like saying, how are we going to top this? Like, I do feel like people live in a bubble. It was cool, but it's a zip line. You want to see a re. You want to see a real mascot jumping off? Show them this.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Freddie the Falcon.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Ready? The Falcon's upside down laughing at you. Yeah, that's the.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That's like a paid stunt guy. You just threw an 18 year old up the side of your stadium.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Whatever.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Whatever.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

To tell me, like, it's tough. Tough to top that. I think I just saw this. This recently. Didn't the Oregon Duck do something like that too?

[Steve Palazzolo]

I didn't see that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Just because your guy did it, you think it's gonna be. He's like, no one. No one could top that. Get out of here. Nice job, though. Brutus. Do we got anything left? Oh, yes. Buckeye Nation. I knew I was gonna bash Brutus and didn't want to take all the Columbus noise today. This is awesome. This is pre game. Jim Knowles, who left to go to Penn State. Caleb Downs with Patricia. That's awesome.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That's pretty good.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That is so there a nod there to. To Buckeye Nation. Really well done. All right. I mean, that's way that.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That Tennessee entrance tonight was electric with the. The.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, it was good. It was Good for what, 10 points?

[Steve Palazzolo]

I think so. Yeah. I mean, it's.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And the penalties and all the. Like, you got to overcome that. That's worth. That's worth points. What. What goes on in that stadium in the first quarter. And remember Georgia. Georgia had to overcome it.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Like.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And that wasn't. That was a day game. But that Neyland Stadium is no nonsense when it comes, especially night games. Their, their PR department, their social media department. They're like, they, they are.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They're elite, elite special forces of that kind of stuff.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes, yes. I love where the SEC has taken the whole thing. I really do. They have leaned into a, like a whole different level.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm not saying it's not partly my fault, but so far you running a tight ship and a concise show is not going well for you.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, not good at all. All right, number 12. Number 12. And I want to wrap this because we watch the end of the game together live. But if people are jumping in after the reset and want to, want to know like the thoughts on the game. Number 12, Oklahoma. Six and two. Number 18, Tennessee. Six and two. Talk about the night, the, the. The light show and all the, the scene that was Neyland Stadium tonight. Aguiar was dealing early on. There are a couple OU penalties that extended drives, but Oklahoma secondary had no answers in this game. Tennessee's going for a second touchdown to make it 14 nothing. It was seven nothing to make it 14 nothing. I said 10 points, seven points. They came out. There were penalties. Oklahoma seemed like in disarray. And all of a sudden I think there were 30 yards out there driving down for what would have made it 14 to nothing. Right. All of a sudden, ball stripped out. Our Mason Thomas scoops it. Our Mason Thomas carries it. Felt like seven offensive players turned defensive players in that moment. Gets through somehow keeps his feet and then like gets shot by a sniper. I don't even know what it was with some sort of leg injury. He can barely hamstring. I think it looked like a hamstring ankle, but yeah, he's tiptoeing but like honestly just trying to stay alive and stay, stay afoot. And he somehow winds up like just not touching the sideline and going 70 yards for a touchdown. Seven. Seven.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Unbelievable play, by the way. It's only one. It was only one offensive player. I think it was just a 15 yard stiff arm like where the. The tight end was trying to strip the ball and make the tackle and he kept fighting him off and then the next thing you know he broke free. You were like, wait, how did that happen?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But it's like all the momentum shifted and Oklahoma continued to struggle throughout the half, right? But that force fumble and 70 yard return, all of a sudden, seven, seven. They trade a couple field goals. It's 10:10. Okay, then the things. Here's what jumped out to me right before the half. Even though they got two more field goals, Oklahoma did and went to the half 16 to 10. Here are the notes I wrote. They cannot run the football against this defense. Oklahoma can't. And it's been a problem all season long. My next note was where the, where the hell is Isaiah Satania, the wide receiver who. And I love, I love Dion Burks and he's a, he's been a great receiver and a possession receiver, but he had a drop tonight and he failed to make a block on a big play. But Satania has been kind of like the big play guy and he was, I don't know if he had one catch or zero catches the entire first half. So then they come out in the second half, Tennessee goes down, score 17, 16. Braylon Staley, 54 yard touchdown. You think like it, what's going to happen here? Because it was right. Oklahoma withstood the initial surge, got that big play to make it seven, seven. Then it was trading field goals and Oklahoma felt like it had momentum. But then Tennessee comes out in the half and bang, pops a big play and in Staley for the touchdown. So now it's 1716. Then Matier settled down and this is what. From that point on to the end of the game, Matier played mostly like John Matier. He was throwing the ball well. He was running the ball especially well.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And even early in the game, like, and, and you know, Herb street, like Herby and I are usually on the same page. A lot of. I get what he was saying. He was talking about, I don't know about like the form and the hip rotation, like jump in the air. I've seen Mater do that before, but Mater tends to do that stuff when he's rushing himself unnecessarily. And that's what I thought he was doing in the first half. Second half, he settled, settled down. There was even a clip in the fourth quarter where Arbuckle comes over in the bench is like, there's my guy. Finally got you back. Like now we can roll. I, I don't know. And we just watched the end of the game. But that, you know. But then even like Xavier Robinson had the fumble deep in Tennessee territory. But Tennessee had three edge defenders who were out, including Joshua Joseph. So it was like this back and forth. Yeah, you're right, men. It was sloppy and it was messy and there were injuries and there were fumbles and there was an interception for Mater that got Tennessee back in it and all these things. But it was a highly entertaining game. And my biggest takeaway Is we knew Oklahoma couldn't run the football, but John Matier's back. And I'm not saying he's going to be like everything we thought, but a 90% John Matier is better than most quarterbacks in the country. And so it gives OU fans hope, even though it's Alabama, Missouri, LSU hope that they can run the table. And worst case, they win two out of three and we'll see how the. The chips fall.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I don't know if material's all the way back. I really don't. I think there's still. I still have some questions. He had to pick late and, like, I just. And he's gonna do that, too. It's tough. Like, it's tough to tell what's the injury and what's not the injury. I think, you know, that's fair. And I just. I mean, you watch. Did you see the clip of him going into the stadium today where he like, high five the fan? Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And grabbed his hand and like, what kind of fan holds on to the guy's right hand? That's been. That he said surgery on. It's been driving him. Like, how are you? Are you even a fan? Like, that person should be banned from Oklahoma Athletics for the rest of his life.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. So I. But now they have a buy. They got two weeks. Maybe he can get. It's even. Even closer to what he was, and we'll see what happens. I just think that I. I think you're dead on about your assessment. If they win two out of the next three, it was a great year. It gives material fuel to come back. It's a step in the right direction for that Oklahoma program, which is going in the right way. But I just think it's going to be a tough, tough road to get into the playoff at this point. I think too much has happened at this point.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, I agree. I'm just letting everyone know we're live.

[Steve Palazzolo]

In Cincinnati is absolutely getting murdered.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Down 17.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

This is what I told you. This is what I told you in. In Stanford. Steve. I know. On our text. I didn't see it, man. I didn't see it. Suckers. Somebody knows something. It's like the old. Like, it's a. For all the amazing things that Coach Corso did for college football. It was the smartest thing, that smartest bit piece of wisdom that he passed along every once in a while. When you look at a spread and it jumps out to you and you're like, oh, I gotta bet Cincinnati they're getting any points since that is playing great. I know football so well. I know Sourcebee. I know. I've been listening to McShay and mention. They tell me all these draft prospects. Then you. Then you have to say. You stop right there and say, oh, does somebody know something? And if so, learning, then I'm going with the somebody's.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I mean, I just watched the tape, didn't see it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, so that's where we are in Oklahoma. Let's keep it rolling. Let's go. Another night game in the sec, and I want to rip through these quickly. There's three games that were also going on at night, and oh, geez, what a mess this game is. Utah just got an interception, I think, but then you got a fumble back after the interception. But now the ball inside their own five. All right, three games I want to get to. Okay, let's keep it in the SEC. South Carolina, Ole Miss. Okay. And I think it was Smith Jr. In that. In the, in the podcast, under the Lights mentioned Keon's name. Kewan Lacey.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Dude, he was awesome.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He was awesome. Tonight was about the run game for, For Ole Miss. And you know what? Really good teams win when they don't have their best stuff. Like a great pitcher wins when the. If the, if the. The change up isn't there, can win with the slider, the curve and the fastball. Fastball is right there. I got a, you know, Bardol Vagisil, whatever. Put five miles an hour on your fastball. Major league. Yeah, Crisco, Bardol Vagisil. I ain't got an arm like yours. The ole miss wins 30 14. They do it ugly. How about this? This stat line between Kewan Lacey, who had 167 yards rushing, and Chambliss, a quarterback who struggled tonight throwing the football. It's the first time I've seen him not where he just. He didn't have his stuff. And, and, and, and he looked frustrated, right?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Like he looked like he was getting under his skin a little bit.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Totally agree. But. But credit Lane in that. Hey, we can run the ball on this team. Let's. Let's. Let's win a game where we absolutely just pounded away. They did it between chambliss and Lacy. 39 carries, 226 yards and two touchdowns on the ground. That's. That, that's.

[Steve Palazzolo]

People think about that Lane offense, and they think it's all about, you know, tempo and airing it out. And then they come back and do that to you, and they haven't Been that great like Lacy's been. I've liked Lacy this year, but the numbers haven't been that great until now. But that's, that's what that, that offense can do to you. You think it's gonna, they're gonna spread you out and, and dink and dunk, and the next thing you know, they run it right up the middle.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So I am for South Carolina. It's just frustrating. And I've. And I've talked to some South Carolina fans and I also, you know, we've had, we just did the, the McShay report. Right? And the McShay report, by the way, Google it. The McShay report. If you haven't. If you haven't subscribed, please do. You can subscribe for free. Tomorrow's a free. A free piece. Every Sunday we run it. It's a, it's a. Basically a recap of some of the stuff that we're going on tonight, but like more in depth and also some personnel notes. And I've been firing a lot of good stuff at Dan all day long, so, so get involved with that. But even like listening to some of the questions, we did a premium subscriber thing last week, Q A and just there's a lot of people talking about Shula and that offense and it not fitting what he does. And my, my, my response was I get it as an evaluator for the NFL, I, I like the fact that I'm seeing him with a little bit more pro style reads inside the pocket and those sorts of things. But yeah, like, I see the frustration in that. We could be doing like some more zone read option and some different, like, progressive new age stuff that would allow him to utilize his mobility. At the end of the day, if you can't block, it doesn't matter the scheme you have. So I'm not letting Shul off the hook. I'm just saying it's, it's very frustrating regardless of what they're trying to do offensively. And, and I also noticed like, he's averaging like the last three games prior to this against three really good. It was like Missouri, Alabama and LSU. He, it was like 20, 26, 22 and 18 were his carry total. So whether it's design runs or the way you want him to run, he's still running the football and they still don't have the balance of a run game. They don't have the protection he needs and it's a mess.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He's running for his life is what's running for his life going on.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So my question to you is, and we don't need to get into detail here, but I watch him today and I see Nick Harbor. It's the same thing. Awesome talent, but it's all or nothing. Like at one point I jotted down is midway through the third quarter. He had one catch, but it's for 47 yards and a touchdown. But it's just one cat, you know what I mean?

[Steve Palazzolo]

So like the one earlier, that was a touchdown. Yep. Or at least a big play.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, so. So my point is like watching Sellers this year, even though I personally as an evaluator have seen growth in his game, especially from early last season, but even at the end of last season, I've seen growth in what he's doing as projecting into the NFL. I'm starting to get the feel like, and I hope it's in South Carolina, but I've heard some reports that like, maybe it won't be if he decides to come back, whatever the deal is. I just think he would benefit from another year in school. And I know you love him so much. So I wanted to touch on this very briefly with you, Steven, ask you.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That question 1000% agree with you that he should go back to school. I think that I, I think that about Ty Simpson though, so. And, and I think that you have really been preaching this for a while now. And, and I, I just agree with you. It just the, the, the data that we've looked at suggests the more starts you get in college, the better off.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You'Re going to be.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I still think why I still bet on Lenore Sellers and think he's the number one quarterback if he comes out is because he does things that no one else can do. I really believe that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I agree.

[Steve Palazzolo]

It's different. So that that's where it is. And I do see. You know, I got some questions today about, like, what do you see in this guy? Because we're not seeing. You look at today, 16 for 31 touchdown, two interceptions. I get it. I get it. But when, when they're not, when they're literally not blocking defensive tackles because guys are sliding the wrong way and they don't know what they're doing and they're getting beat one on one. It's just. And Nick Harbor's got a deep ball and he, Nick Harbor's so much fun to watch play when he's playing well, but he's got a deep ball and he goes up and it goes right through his hands. You're like, come on, man, like Come on. And it's. It's not like Sellers is, you know, doesn't deserve any criticism. I'm not saying that. But, you know, we've seen other quarterbacks go in, and I think about Lamar Jackson and I think about when he came out of Louisville and I think about Josh Allen when he came out of Wyoming, and they. They developed into better pastors in the league and they had good coaches to help them get there. I get that. But I see this kid is that level talent, and I really just believe that, that he's one of those rare talents that can. You can turn into a, you know, an NFL, like a Frank the face of a franchise. That being said, I'm with you. Like, there's things he's got to work on and why not do it at the college level? Now it does get tricky. I think he's got to sit down with, you know, at this point, he's got to have a team around him.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Right.

[Steve Palazzolo]

And he's going to have to sit down with his team and sit there and talk to Coach Beamer, who I really like. But there's got to be a plan in place there. And if there's not a plan in place or they don't have a way to figure this out a little bit more for him, then he's going to have to go somewhere else or he's going to have to declare. Because I don't really see the point of running it back and doing this again. And I'm just being honest about what I'm seeing. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It. It makes total sense. It makes total sense. I. I think it's two parts. I think it's figuring out where would next year, next year be and if it's in Columbia, South Carolina. Is this the right. Do we have the right cast where it would make sense to come back and I can make the steps I need and be supported in doing so, or does it have to be somewhere else?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, I would imagine kids would want to play with him, but I also think it's tough to recruit there. So it's an interesting dynamic.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They've got the sit Ole Miss. Now back to Ole Miss. The best comment all day long just came from God. And it'll be tough to beat because anytime. And like, there are funnier things and like, interesting. But like, he just put a thought into my brain as I tell you the schedule. You get Citadel for Ole miss on the 18th, Florida at home and at Mississippi State. Like Ole misses, Ole Miss is running it with a one loss one loss going into the SEC championship game. I'm convinced. He said, I'm dying to see SIG vs. Lane in the playoff.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That's interesting.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Pause. Close your eyes if you have to.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But you are not staying on course tonight.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But yeah, yeah, the week leading up.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, unbelievable.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Staying on course. I just. I just realized when did the clocks change here in. In New England or been in the United?

[Steve Palazzolo]

One o', clock, I think.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, I think it's like two to three. I want to be still doing this and say, well, we gained an hour back. What's the matter that we're going for three hours, but how awesome would that be? Like the week leading up and some of the nonsense back and forth between those two. And then the offensive, like the gameplay. Oh, gosh. That's the matchup. That's the coaching matchup. I have to see.

[Steve Palazzolo]

God, not to mention that how like the elite level of coaching that would be going on there, too. I mean, it would be.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's interesting. Interesting. Poll just went up. Who would win. Hey, get us that Tucker if we can. They can make their jokes about Todd's odds and he's a lunatic and all that. I want an autumn neutral site. Indiana versus Ole Miss. If we can't get it tonight, let's have it for him by Monday. We will have it for you Monday. That doesn't seem aggressive enough, Tucker. That seems like you're just mailing it in.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Don't listen to him.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You're sending an email to corporate. I want you to text a guy. I know we've got a guy or a girl, but we got a poll, a poll question up. Who would win, Indiana or Ole Miss? Who would you say? Who do you like?

[Steve Palazzolo]

I got Indiana right now. I really like Ole Miss. I got Indiana. I like. I like the defense better. Really? Talk to me. Why?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Lane.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I love Lane. Lovely. You got. You think Lane, you gave. You give the coaching edge to Lane over Signetti. I mean, those are two prize fighters. Those are like two heavyweights.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Lane's got more talent, too, Slightly. Not. Not a ton more. Quite honestly, the more I watch. Oh, yeah. I don't know.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I don't know, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right, well, we'll have this conversation. Maybe we'll bring it back on Monday. Ten trues. Maybe when we'll definitely. We'll definitely have the. Tucker will get it to us by Monday.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Would you take it easy on my guy, please?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, Tucker. Tucker is the best. That's. I only mess with the people I love and that I know can handle it. And that's, that's a fact. All right, two other games tonight and let's usc Nebraska. I don't know how much we even have to get into this. I did want to touch on the, on the fact that USC 2 and 6 coming into this in road game since the start of 2024 and not very good overall in the, in the Lane Kiffin era. And it's gotten worse now that the travel has. Has been like multiple time zones, thousands of miles and all that stuff. So this is a big win. Even though like found a way. Mayava really struggled and I hope it's not a regression. I hope it's, you know. And he did have a 43 yard completion to Jaden Richardson. They got him up 20, 21, 17 and. And turned out it was on that. It was on that drive that, that turned out to wind up, you know, that drive wound up being the, the game winner.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So he did some good things in the second half, but my office started 6 of 16 for 57 yards in the first half.

[Steve Palazzolo]

9 for 23 with 135 yards. I mean, it wasn't good.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. And I'd have to go back and watch that tape, but that's not like to the level we've come to expect now. Emmett Johnson, the running back from Nebraska, had a really nice night. Raiola did some really good things. But at the end of the day, I, I give USC credit for grinding this one out. It felt like a program win where they needed to, to like overcome the travel thing. It's real. I know the travel is real. And I like when, when James Franklin said it after one trip out west, like, give me a break.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

When you're USC and you're traveling from Southern California, like this is now the third or fourth trip across, not across the country, but like to at least like it wears on you. I get it. But they have, they've got to look internally and figure out how to get over that because this is a good team. They're now six and two with one loss. One loss was to what? Michigan?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Where was the other loss? Well, it doesn't. We don't need to get a big thing. I like this. Illinois a good team. But. But there. We'll get to this later. They're in the economy section of the, of the plane that's taken off when we get to the TMS top 12.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It was Illinois, right? It was Illinois.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. Notre Dame and Illinois.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, Notre Dame. They beat Michigan. That's right. But Michigan had to go out there. All right.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So that's a nice win for USC. They were ranked 23 coming in. I don't suspect that that's going to get him into the TMS top 12, but I wanted to make a note that that was an important win for that program. Next up, and the final one from the night games. You know what? You know what? We'll come back to Georgia Tech and NC State. That's what we're going to do. This is me doing organizational as your host on the fly. I want to. Let's keep it back because we started the show off with the SEC and we kept it with the sec, with Ole Miss. And let's just get back into the. What was. They're. They're the cardi. I wrote cardiac kids without seeing the post game interview. And then I just caught the post game interview and. And Georgia head coach Kirby Smart was saying the same thing. He's like the cardiac kids. They are the thing I would do if I, if I was a major gambler and I made a living off of it, if my, like, my children's futures depended on me as a gambler. Bet the second half on Georgia, bet the fourth quarter on Georgia. It's what they do.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm with you on that. Yeah, like, they just don't flinch. They don't care. They're the cardiac kids for everyone else. But you take their pulse and it's, you know, it's about 60, 65 in the fourth quarter. They like, they have like the marathoners, resting heart rate. They don't care.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So Florida, Florida, Georgia, largest out outside cocktail, whatever. Get like, you know, it's the, it's the best party in the world is what it should be or used to be. At least 24, 20 is the win. Right. And by the way, I can already hear Van Pelton and Steve Coughlin when they're not too busy stealing our show idea. And they're probably right now, Scotty and Steve, their bad beats is the best thing on television. It's not just. Not just sports television. It's the best. Best thing on television. So I don't know why they steal our Saturday night show concept when they have the best thing on television already. But. But they did. And I hope it's going tremendously well for them. Again, I only mess with people who I love and I know who can take it. But the bad beat, if Gunner Stockton doesn't run it in, just puts a knee on it and the one they could. And this is a rivalry like they usually, you Just run it in and shove it down their throat.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But they didn't.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay. So. So that's that. Florida had one. Let's. I want to actually get into this game. We've been kind of touching on things and tree leaves and all that. I want to get into this game because I continue to try to figure out who Georgia is and how legitimate Georgia is. Okay. Florida had one great drive early on this game and it ended with the. The DJ Lagway rolling out to his right, finding the open receiver in the end zone. Touchdown. Okay. But that was kind of it for the first half. And I know Florida has struck had all sorts of struggles offensively, but I want to give a lot of credit to Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart is winning in the margins this year. Okay. His team does not have four or five first rounders on the defensive side. This is not going to be the defense that fuels the Eagles for the next seven years. Right.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There are some really good players and I'll get to one in a minute. Who had another awesome day. He's got a quarterback he's grinding every week and has some dual threat stuff to him and will surprise you when he throws for 300 plus in here and there against Tennessee. And there was another game where he came out gunning too. But this is a team that's not to the level that George has had talent was. It's. But it's still got a lot of talent and it's a lot of young talent. So the coaching has become absolutely critical and really well coached teams. Yeah, you like to think they come out prepared and they don't get bombarded early on, get jumped like they're in an alley. But it's happened. And with young players, sometimes even if you prep it during the week, you run it through and you meet. You meet in the, in the meeting rooms and you watch the tape and then you get on the practice field and you drill at home until they see it in the game. Sometimes young players, sometimes old players, but a lot of times younger inexperienced players have to kind of see it and feel it for themselves, put their hands on the situation. But then they need great coaching to help them through. How do we adjust to what we just saw? Because now we're down 7 nothing or 14 nothing or 21 whatever. As they were against Tennessee. What Kirby did so beautifully, I thought in this game, I don't know that anyone else or very few people will probably touch on. He recognized. Okay, they scored on that drive. But that Florida offense I can contain. It's not agiar with Brazelle and, and, and Staley and those weapons. It's not some of the other offenses we're going to have to win with field position. Let's like, let's write the ship and let's do all the little things. Let's, let's keep the game in their side of the field. Three drives in a row in the first half to finish the first half. Florida started on their, their own 11. Their own 11 and their own nine.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

With an offense and a quarterback that has been so up and down and so inconsistent. Inconsistent. You're basically saying, go ahead, take the ball. I'm not going to go forward on a fourth. I'm not going to like, I'm not going to put myself in risk and give you a short field. I don't trust you, Lagway to be able to drive 89, 89 and 9 or 91. And that, that calculated, those calculated decisions paid off. Right?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And so it's great special teams. It's great coaching and decision making and it's understanding your team and your team's opponent. Right. So it's 10 to 10 at the, @ the half after controlling, giving up a first drive, making adjustments and then controlling the field. Then, then Florida comes out after the half. They kind of controlled the third quarter. They, they led 23 to 20 this game. For all the great coaching and the adjustments and some of the good things that Georgia did, but not enough. They were, they were up shit's creek.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, they were.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

If it was not for that third down and fourth down stop, those consecutive stops, that fourth and one when Florida went for it, you could argue, maybe kick a field goal there and make it the six point lead. But it's like, am I really going to give the ball back to Gunner Stockton and Georgia always like, I got to score it. I didn't have a problem with it. I totally understood the mindset.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I like the call, too. I thought it was the right call.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That changed, was a great play by the corner.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I can't remember who the corner was.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I want to say this for Georgia fans listening. If you go on a run and if this Georgia Young Georgia team keeps getting better and all of a sudden you're in the College Football Playoff and you've won out or you got in, however you get in, and all of a sudden you start, you win a game or two in the College Football Playoff, I want you to remember, had it not been for that fourth down stop, you might not be in this position. I Can't like true. I remember in that moment thinking that could, that could be a play that we look back on and say it saved Georgia's season because now all of a sudden they'd have like, they could easily have lost this game today. I agree up first because then the clock starts running. Florida, whether it's a field goal or.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Touchdown, they were in trouble, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They were in like real trouble.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And they've been in real trouble several, several times, but that felt like real trouble for some reason. Then they get the ball back and it becomes what I, what I want to call the Zachariah, Zachariah Branch drive. Nice day, huh? Yeah, he had a wonderful day, man. He's becoming. Go ahead. Sorry.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He's like becoming a focal point of the offense. I think he's a they when they're figuring out what they are. And I'll get into the running backs in a minute too. But Zachariah Branch is going to be a big part of what they do because he's just a safety valve who can then make short plays into big plays. I mean, he's awesome, but the first.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Part of it is the safety valve. And how is he a safety valve? Because this mother bleeper un Safety blanket, maybe, whatever. Yeah, but he's. There's security in him because he uncovers faster than most wide receivers in the country uncover. And he does it with that lightning and like quickness and an ability to change direction as I'm spitting on my mic and. And so, so all of a sudden it's that massive play on third and eight from your own 20 yard line. So as huge as that play was to get the stop, you're now at third and eight. You picked up two yards on first and second down. It's third and eight from your own 20. You don't get this. You get a punt and you're kind of right back in that same situation. Florida's tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Right? Yeah, he uncovered. He uncovers like this and. And Stockton gets in the ball. Easy throw. Picks up a few more yards. First down, about two plays later. Two plays later, he, he has another 14 yard catch. That drive. And then, and then they, it winds up being the drive that they go down and score the touchdown. Go ahead. Touchdown. Right? Yeah. So it's that critical third down conversion was 6:51. Time was rolling, baby. You don't get that. And you got a punt because it's fourth and eight. They're getting the ball back. It's like six minutes. You're Running out of time. So they get the 14 yard catch. Yeah. 14 yard set up the go ahead touchdown score. He finishes with 10 for like 116 or something like that in this game. And yeah, I, I think he, I know he doesn't have great size and all that stuff. I think he's gonna be a second round pick. I think he might be a top 50 pick in the draft and it's a good thing that they're starting to go and I know Colby Young with the injury and so the, from that slot position, Zachariah Branch has become invaluable for Georgia.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Agree, agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

10 for 112 is what he finished with. Stockton finishes 20 of 29 for 223, two touchdowns and interception. Just an absolutely pedestrian stat line for an absolutely pedestrian performance from Stockton given the standard that he has created for himself, which, which is a positive.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right? I mean, look, this is what I, I look at Georgia, I look at them, they are going to make defensive adjustments like no other. And they're like, they can, they can take a punch better than any team in the country. You, they'll take your best shot and still be able to stand there and come back gunner. Stockton's going to gut it out. He's going to make plays at key moments. They got Zachariah Branch, who can be a difference maker in key situations. They've got playmakers on the outside that aren't consistent but can make plays and then they're going to stay committed to the run. And I want to ask you this.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Is Chauncey Bowens the best running back for, for Georgia? I love Nate Frazier. I think Chauncey Bones has been.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I feel like he's been more reliable this year.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, I mean he is super talented and yeah, I don't either maybe because when Frazier's in the game, they're keying on him more. And Bowen, Bones. Bowens has gotten away with a little bit more or. I don't know, I don't know what it is.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Is Bowens a little more patient?

[Steve Palazzolo]

I, I feel like. I can't believe I'm saying this. I feel like he's got a. He's shown a little more juice than Frazier and I love Frazier, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. I feel like the difference is Frazier sometimes when I watch and I would have to go and like dive in the tent on surface from watching, it feels like a lot of times Frazier's like almost hitting it too hard or too. And, and like there's like this little bit of like indecisiveness or. Or it hasn't developed or something like that with Bowens. I feel like the best way I can describe it is it feels like it's timing, it's timed out, blocking with the back. But I don't know. And I'm not saying he's. He's not leaving. I'm just saying it's. It's kind of this little bit of. And then, you know. But yeah, they've got. They've got at Mississippi State and then they get Texas at home and we'll get to Texas in a minute. Texas is interesting. And that's it for the SEC and Charlotte and Georgia Tech. I don't want to do this right this second, but I'm going to anyway.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That sounds good to me. Let's go.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I just want to look at the SEC standings right now because you got Alabama. Like, it's going to be interesting because here's what it's setting up to be and this is why I'm doing this.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Texas A and M, Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss were all in the top seven coming into this week. And that's not going to change, obviously.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It looks an awful lot like A and M and. And Alabama are going to get in, but like in the. I'm talking about the SEC championship game. So two. And they're going to get four teams in. Are you almost. Are you almost better off not even having. If you're a Georgia and Ole Miss not having to play. And don't forget about Texas is 4 and 1. If Texas beats Georgia. I guess this is where I'm going. If Texas were to beat Georgia and Georgia beats Georgia Tech, which would now be ranked 15th or something like that, maybe can sneak back up. It'll be a quality win. It'll be a ranked opponent, but it won't be what it could have been a top six, top seven opponent had Georgia Tech not lost today. Because you got five teams with Texas. I'm saying could there be a fifth if Texas wins that doesn't get in the sec? Let's say it's Tech, A and M and. And even the loser of that SEC championship game is getting in the college definitely know that. And then Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas, at least two of those teams. Could it be three? I guess is where I'm going.

[Steve Palazzolo]

So Texas has Georgia in two weeks and then they. Yeah. So if they beat Georgia and lose to A M, are they going in? Are they getting in with three losses?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, because then they'd have three losses in the sec. No, they'd have two losses in the sec, three losses overall. I don't know. We'll get to all that. We have the TMS top 12 coming up. I just wanted to throw it out there. Like we're getting to a point now we're in November. Like something's got to shake out. And unlike last year when we had South Carolina and Ole Miss and I recognize that they like, I get it if they don't get in, but I know they're better than Indiana. I know they're better than. There was another. Who else was in Boise State had to get in. It was Indiana and smu. Smu. They're just better.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

This year these teams outside of Texas, Texas hasn't done it yet. But if Texas gets a win against one of those opponents, I, I read Today Texas has two wins against top 10 opponents. Is that right? Yeah. Oklahoma. Oklahoma when they played him in Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

When they played him 6 and 9. So. All right, moving on. I do want to give two bits of just love. Right. Okay. Before we move on, CJ Allen is an absolute Terminator. The linebacker from Georgia. And it's. He's just fun to watch. And there's got. There's a lot of good off the ball linebackers in this year's class. And, and Arvell Reese is he. And off the ball, is he edge. We'll have that conversation for months. He's a special talent. He may be the first. He may be the first off ball linebacker to get drafted and the. It'll be the highest and off the ball linebacker gets drafted since Devin White in 2019 and he went five overall. Okay.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's about the range where I think Arvell Reese is tracking right now. If you watch him against Shelton today and some of the things he did and dropping into coverage like my goodness. But he had. But C.J. allen, while he's not that I do think he's playing his way into first. First round consideration with the way he's playing. And I had him in my top 32. He had 12 solo tackles today. 12 all over the place, everywhere. I also want to give a little nod to a player who I just like, you know, me, my, my affinity. Maybe it's because Pete Woodfork growing up was a 5 9. Just absolute terror as my, my go to receiver. But I love slot receivers. Trey Wilson, the return game, the run after catch. We just talked about one of them obviously in Zachariah Branch. Trey Wilson's not to that level in terms of quickness and shiftness but it's good to see him now. Maybe it's the coaching change. For whatever reason, getting the targets. He deserved nine for 121 in a touchdown. He had a big day. Moving on, the Florida receiver. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, The Florida receiver. Yes. I was talking on that side of the ball. So that's that. Let's get to the noon games. They were awesome.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But I feel like we need to stick in the SEC because we just talked about Texas. So let's go to number nine, Vanderbilt at 20. Texas. Texas wins this one, 34 to 30.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Dude, I thought I could go for a walk at the end of the third. I thought it was over. I was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go for a quick walk.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I told you the Home Depot helped me. Help me build an outdoor shower. And I'm living in the northeast and I'm hanging on to that sucker until the pipes freeze. And I probably gonna go back to Home Depot next spring and get new pipes. It was over and so I put out my towel and all my stuff and ready to go take a shower then. And it wasn't done. It wasn't until 7:10pm That I wound up taking a shower because of Diego Pavia and Texas's prevent defense.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, my God.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But I don't want it to be. Let's start with Pavia. This guy is an absolute lunatic. And you know me. I love lunatics. I love guys that just don't care. As you're starting to get. As you actually get to know me in this. Not you. I'm talking about our audience. No one got to. No one got to know me for 20 years at ESPN. You're starting to get to know the real me recently and it's causing some people around here some trouble, but not that much. I love crazy people. I love maniacs. I love people who just like. No matter what, they just like find a way, right? Yeah. I mean, the dude threw for 365 yards today and rushed for a team high 43 yards. He was the team's leader in Russia. They couldn't run the ball on Texas. It was all on him. And by the way, he got sacked twice as many times as he's ever. Was it New Mexico State? Where was he before this.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Was New Mexico's?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No, it was New Mexico. Where was it? We'll get to it. He's never been. He's never been. The most he's ever been sacked in a single game was three times. He was psychedelic sacked twice. As many times today and he still just kept ripping.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They went in New Mexico State.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Thank you. They went into the fourth quarter trailing by 24 points. He's been sacked six times. You know, easy it is to be like, not my day. I'm going to finish this game out. But like I got nothing left in the tank. It's that point Coach Tate used to say, the quarterback coach at Richmond, he talks about Mark Magna gets over that wall faster than any human being ever. And I was like, what do you like? It's that point where you decide as a human being and it's all mental. What am I going to give in this moment? And Pavia just gave everything and it got him back in a game where they got to kick an onside kick. Almost got the onside kick. My gosh, that ball was hanging around the sideline. It felt in eternity. I was actually surprised they didn't get that onside kick. And had they, that son of a would have found a way to at least go to overtime. But I want to give him the love. Like, I actually learned more from Pavia today and I know, I feel like we all know a whole lot about him. But that fourth quarter, I'm a Pavia guy now. Full in. And I kind of had a foot and a half in in the door before. He's flat out awesome, man. Like, that is a human will at its finest. And I say all these things because I wanted to get it out of the way. Oh, and Eli Stowers, we haven't seen a tight end, by the way, and this is a tight end class with a lot of talent. Okay. Yeah. There has not been a tight end to have a singular performance like Eli Stowers had for Vanderbilt today. And if they have, I missed it. He was 7 for 146 with two touchdowns. And if you look at like the rest of the team, nobody else stepped up and had like big performances. They couldn't run the ball, the protection sucked. And a bunch of receivers had like three or four. He was the guy. It was a two man show with Pavia and Stowers.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I love Stowers. Your boy Michael Trigg had a for 155 against Kansas State. Not nearly the stage. Not nearly as big of a stage off.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Mensch pulling that nugget, nugget out right now when I'm. You put them on my radar, man. Sure. So it was, it was up there, the two best performances. We saw one of them today from. From Stowers. But I want to get to I want to get to this because here's the real story of this game. I told you after Oklahoma. I've seen this story before. I hope it's not fool's gold. And ever since Oklahoma, that Oklahoma win where they look great and Eli, Eli and Arch looked like Eli or Peyton, Arch looked like a Manning. Yeah. And it's. And you felt like I just had this sense that they weren't there yet and they weren't. And they've struggled the last couple outings and it took overtime against Kentucky. Right. And today was the first time. And I wrote it in my notes. This feels different. It's what we all signed up for.

[Steve Palazzolo]

On both sides of the ball. Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Both sides of the ball. But we all signed up for nationally the Arch Manning show.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And he's had good moments and we've all been like, is this it? Today it felt real. And why do I say it felt real? Because the thing that's outside of the external pressure, no players ever entered into a season with more external pressure. Number one overall draft pick hasn't even been a full time starter. National championship. This team is going to go over, get over the hum. We got Arch, not Quinn Ewers. Heisman can. No Heisman favorite hadn't even started a game as the his first time full year starter. So the externals were a major part of it. But if you really got to know what was happening behind the scenes, it was Arch's eyes. Arch didn't know because he hadn't played enough ball. And when he came in, he came in with packages and he was given here's a 12 play sheet and if you. And yes you started a game but it was limited and so this. And then he gets thrown into the wolves against Matt Patricia and that defense that is turning out to be one of maybe the like we put it up in the legendary list of the Alabamas and the Miami 2001 and Bama and like the 2011, 2010 at USC with Malaluga and Cushing and all those maniacs. He got thrown in at the shoe.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He didn't know where to go with his eyes. And I know that because I know that.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I only tell you these things when I feel like it's comfortable to tell you and because I know because I, I actually have this information. Okay. And, and there's been ups and there's been downs and he's. And he's shown flashes and certain things. Today I finally saw Arch get to be Arch because as I and anyone who's played the quarterback position or anyone. You've just watched a lot of it and can only imagine there's so many things that you have to process that's coming in your ear now in the college helmet being regurgitated to your teammates pre snap reads. What's the play clock looking like? What's the coverage looking like? Is that blitzer? Am I. Is he hot? Where's the motion? Like.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I've been there where I don't know where I'm going with my eyes, and it's a disaster. Seeing ghosts, seeing ghost, hoping, pressing. And it's all the things we saw. It's like, why does Arch look like this? And now it's like, well, he played shitty high school football. I told you what. Today I saw a guy who was confident, knew exactly where to go with his eyes. It's not his bad eyesight. It's because you don't know where to go with your eyes. You don't even know where to look to find the answer to the test. It's like being dropped into like, like calculus. And you're in fifth grade and you're like, hey, I'm just working on algebra, pre algebra or whatever. You know what I mean?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. It was his best game by far. And it felt like Kim and Sark were. Were growing in the same direction the whole game.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Right.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They were right on the same page.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And, and, and, and I. It looked like Wingo was gonna have, like, the best game of his career. Let's throw. Let's run an orbit. Let's run an orbit behind the quarterback.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Throw.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, throw a quick swing. 75. See ya. See ya. 7 nothing. Longhorns shoot off the cannons, Play the fight song.

[Steve Palazzolo]

First play of the first offensive snap of the game, I think.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

First play from scrimmage in the game. 75. Okay, that happens. And then, and then he has one. They throw him one more screen, a screen. He picks up 14. I'm like, we got. We had two for like 90, almost 90. And a tutty. We're like, winko's gonna have a. This is gonna be a big day.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Then he goes for him, right?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He runs straight off the field and goes into the tent. Thumb apparently not fully reported, but from what I could see, what I could read today from people who were there and reporting on it sounds like a thumb injury. Don't know. You know, get more detail. So he's gone, but the offense keeps rolling. Yeah, he threw a throw. It was. I don't know if it's a crosser but to the left side, across the backside of the linebackers. That's when I was like, oh, my gosh, this is Arch. And dropping it in through it on time. He threw it early, put it in a spot. It wasn't Arch running and, like, creating. It wasn't Sark. It was. That's the thing, too. Sark has put him in some good spots. It wasn't Sark drawing something up for him that made it look easy. It was him actually going through a progression on time, balls out, layers. It was different.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I mean, the Stark stuff for me was when he got him with that orbit motion to Wingo, and then he did, like some kind of double reverse flea flicker. And it just felt like he was getting Arch comfortable within the game plan. To start with the first, the way he scripted that game early, and then he was ready to take the training wheels off. I think it was just a matter of, like, building confidence. And in. Here we go. This is gonna, like, you know, just get him, get him.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You know, they say when shooters shoot that when.

[Steve Palazzolo]

As soon as they see the ball in, go in. He just wanted him to see the ball go in and then we're off. And I felt like that's what they were doing.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It was that drive up 10, 10, nothing. Midway in the first quarter when Manning, when arch took him 83 yards, 10 plays, five plus minutes. It was authoritative, it was confident, it was on time, and it was. It was an absolute. And that was different. Yeah, I haven't seen that arrogance that you need to see from a great quarterback. It's beyond confidence. It's. Fuck you, stop me. I saw that for March today for the first time. Not him standing over some Sam Houston State linebacker who we carried in the end zone. And. And like the swagger and Arch, why is he doing. I'm talking real stuff.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, I got chippy today. I like that. It was good.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's fine. I'm always talking about. I'm talking about the. You. You can throw anything at me. I've got the answer because I know where to go with my eyes and I know what I'm looking at. Finally, I think it's going to be different from now on for Arch. I'm not saying they're going to win out. I'm not saying that they're. I'm sure there are going to be bumps. I'm telling you, for the first time, I can sit here confidently after a day of college football and say, now, now we can start the evaluation on who Arch Manning is, because he knows where to go with his eyes. He's trusting what he's doing. He's. And I think anything now is fair game. What. What we were studying before was him being thrown into a. Into the fast lane with the car that only went 35. It was. It was a wreck waiting to happen. So. So now I feel like we've got. Now they gave up 21 points. It was a nightmare in the fourth quarter. And does that put a little sour on it? Does it yuck the yum a little bit, as my kids would say, or used to when they're even younger. And they hate me for saying that. Yeah, it does a little bit, but it doesn't take away from the biggest takeaway. And the biggest takeaway is. Today was different. It was authoritative. It was confident. And I'm excited to see where it goes from here now. And now I look at Texas, Georgia, and now I look at Texas, Texas A and M, and I say, that's. We got games. It's a fair fight. Finally. It was not a fair fight. Had that had to happen five weeks earlier. It's a fair fight. You're not.

[Steve Palazzolo]

You're not worried about this team going on the road? I mean, they beat Kentucky by three, Mississippi State by seven, lost to Florida.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm worried about all of it. And then, like, who isn't? And I'm worried about.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm just saying it was beyond worry. Before I was going into a hatchet. I was going into a gunfight with a hatchet. Frank D. Feliz used to say, I mean, they were going to a hatchet fight with a hatchet. He was. It was going into a hatchet fight with a butter knife.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, they were real close to losing the Mississippi State and the wheels really coming off on the season.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I know. I'm just saying I'm now on record and so you can hold me accountable. If Arch does not play at a level that. That gets Texas in a position to win games and. And keeps them like, right where they should be based off of the rest of the talent around and. And exceed that, then I was wrong. But I'm finally able to sit here with confidence and say, I think he's ready for this now.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I hope it keeps rolling.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Me too.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Emmett Mosley, the wide receiver, had eight receivers. All.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He had eight receptions all year. He had seven today. I mean, you know, you don't just found a different guy.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You know what else I thought was awesome? 10 different Texas receiver or targets, 10 different skill position players for Texas got in on the 25 completions that arch through. He had two, Wingo had two for 84. We thought this was going to be the Wingo game, but he goes out in the first quarter. Yeah, Em Mosley, DeAndre Moore stepped up. They had 10 for 118 and one combined, but it was all of them. And you know what happens when you actually can see the field and know where to look with your eyes and you're confident what you're doing. It doesn't matter who the jersey number, the receiver, the speed, the height or anything else. He went to Livingston or Livingstone.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Early in the season because it's my roommate. He's a big target and I know where he's going to be, even though I don't know exactly where to go with my eyes. But I trust it. He doesn't have to do that anymore now. Now is 13 right is Livingston now. He's just his roommate and he's another target out there, you know?

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[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Penn State, Ohio State. I don't care how long the show goes to so buckle up. Dan, the club, it's three hours behind there. It's only like 9:42. The clubs will be waiting for you in LA. I promise. Tucker, I'm sorry. I actually am sorry for you because you've been dealing with me all day long and Marissa, I'm sorry mention I'm not.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, it doesn't care. Doesn't care.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No. Unless you tell me something, you're gonna get to Penn State, Ohio State. You, you take us on this one. I got obviously some thoughts. I'm rolling today. I mean I know where you.

[Steve Palazzolo]

You are fired up man. You're ready to go. About Julian saying is I don't even know. I can't wait to hear.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I begged you to take this. I begged you. I begged you and everyone in the country who would listen. I begged you buy his stock now. Because it's too late now. You could have bought it at $10. Now it's 300 spotlight player of the day Saturday Spotlight player of the day.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Here we go.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I was gonna let you start but you. You started getting snippy with me. So beat it.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, I am going to be snippy with you.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm snippy because sayings 20 of 23 87%. 316, four touchdowns. That's against Jim Knowles. That's the defensive coordinator was there last year with Ohio State. I get it. Chip Kelly's not there but he still knows every, every heartbeat and palpitation that Ryan Day has and heartline has and every preconceived notion and trend beater that they eight games this season saying 19 touchdowns, just three picks. You know it's hard go outside and, and throw the ball with Tyler. I get it. I get times and see if you can complete 80% of them. That's what he's doing this.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I hear you. I know but we're. We're just going to ignore the tipped pass where you know Jeremiah Smith's got to make like this most like a spider man and like snatch it out of the air. We're just going to ignore that.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

How good are those receivers?

[Steve Palazzolo]

They're unbelievable. And that, that vaunted, that vaunted Penn State defense that gave up 42 to UCLA.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Ooh.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I mean like dude, can we talk about this for a second?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But we all think.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay, but rationally though we all agree this is going to be a different level of lock in and preparation this week. This is going to be a different level of intensity and. And fight and this he. They didn't have to travel far. So that wasn't a problem. They didn't have the injury coming off like Penn State. You were getting Penn State's literal last punch today.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm really. Why do we think that this is a team that's lost five games in a row. They've lost four games in a row coming into this game.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Fine.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm not, I'm not sure, man. I hear what you're, I hear your logic.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Right.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But I'm not sure. And, and, and like, I don't want to get into the Penn State players too much about all that. Whether or not this was the best punch you were going to get from Penn State. I think this is a pretty beat up Penn State team. I think this is a defeated Penn State.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. I'm saying whatever they had left in the tank, they were, they were going to empty it today because they're not saving it for whatever the rest of their schedule is. I'm saying this.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Sure.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They were ever going to play hard again as the 2025 version of Penn State. Today was going to be the day. And you saw the effort out there.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Sure. That's. That's about what we can say.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Sure.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

What else did you see in this game, Steve, now that you're all of a sudden you pick an interesting day to pick a fight with me on Julian saying it's just 87 of his throws.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Not picking a fight with you. I'm not picking a fight with you. I, I am saying that I'm very, I'm just as impressed as you are. He has two. You have a guy who's. Jeremiah Smith is going to be a top five pick when he comes out. I really believe that. I think Carnell Tate's going to be a first round pick. Bo Jackson, the running back is coming on and looks awesome. I'm so excited about Bo Jackson. You have all these things in place. I really believe, I believe in my heart that Ohio State is the best team. I just want to know how State pod drive the lane right. And I'm talking to these guys and it's the same thing with them.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We, they.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Ohio State fans cannot wait for the Michigan game because they really don't know what they have right now. They were, they feel really good about it, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't think, I don't think they're gonna know after Michigan.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I don't know if they are either, but they want to.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I know I grew up in that game. I understand what they, what they want to see. Yes. But if you Win that game. It's gonna be. It's going to be the greatest thing that ever happened. And we finally over the hump and all those things. I honestly, like, that doesn't mean anything when you talk about the national championship. Run to me. For me. Me too.

[Steve Palazzolo]

By the way, they were more. They were more interested in the Michigan game.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You don't. Yeah, it's a, It's a life.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I hear you.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I really believe this team is awesome. I mean, Arvell Reese doing Arvell Reese things again today. Like, they, I think they are the best team in the country. And I don't. I'm not even sure it's by a.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Little bit, but I can't.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm tired of talking about, like, this was supposed to be this test and I'm not going to pretend that it was. I can't pretend to me that this was some kind of litmus test for this defense at this point. I mean, the only team they played was Texas when Arch was just getting his feet wet. It's just. I don't know. I want to see them play an SEC schedule. I want to see them play so. And you've made this point yourself, dude. Like, I want to see them play someone.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But they're awesome.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I mean, Julian Saying is playing lights out and Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate are freaking awesome. And I love Max Claire, the tight end and the offensive lines, you know, playing well. And the defense is. I mean, they came in today, I think they were coming into this game, I think they were giving up 5.9 points per game. That is silly.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't care.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Again, you want to talk about. I don't care about who you play. I mean, there's lots of teams who play weak schedules and not come even close to giving up that few points per game. So I get all of it. I'm just ready to see them, like, really show what they can do. And I think they'll shine when they get the chance. I love Ryan Day. I love this, this, this team. I love the way it's played. I love the way it's built. But please don't tell me that, like, yeah, maybe you get your best State punch for Penn State, but like, I want to just see more. I want to see. I want to see them have to go against someone.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I do love people that are so like minded. CFC8.06Z. We got to change our screen. I need to know what your name is. Got more people than SVP and ESPN and his, his live chat. Lfg let's crush them. Yeah. I like competing too, man. And that's probably not true. But. But doesn't matter. And I do love. I love Steve. Literally, like two of my favorite people in this entire business and just people in the world. I just love Scotty and I love Steve. But I was just. I was messing around. But yeah, I want to crush all of them. I. I don't. Let me ask you this.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Ghost of Steve Adasio says right now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Play someone like the mighty 3 and 5, Florida. And I would ask the ghost of Steve. Adio. What Florida's record would be in the Big Ten.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

7.

[Steve Palazzolo]

What do you think?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Thank you.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Thank you.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Like, I just.

[Steve Palazzolo]

We. We have this argument a lot. And by the way, I think Ohio State. He's like, someone wrote Ohio State would be Kentucky by 100. I don't doubt it. I think Ohio State beats Florida. I think.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But there's only two. There's Kentucky. Are we gonna do this right now?

[Steve Palazzolo]

It's just making me mad. I'm getting defensive. You're right. We shouldn't do it. I just got defensive. I'll leave it alone.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I really don't want to do this right now. But there, there's Arkansas, by the way. Like, okay, so there's Kentucky. Kentucky legitimately sucks this year. Arkansas, the problem when you start to talk about, okay, who are the two other teams that are at the bottom that suck in the sec, Both guys are going to be drafted in the NFL at quarterback. One of them might be the number one overall pick. So like, what? Even though you got to go through. And Alabama struggle with them because, like they had won four straight over ranked opponents the first time in the history of the SEC and had to go to South Carolina. And they're playing potentially the number one overall pick in the 26 or 27 NFL draft.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And some really talented defensive and a top 10 draft pick at edge in a year from now. Stewart in 2027.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Don't get me started. So Kentucky's the only easy true out. Arkansas is like just behind them. But even Arkansas, like, you're gonna have bumps and bruises. You ready? Big Ten lovers? And again, I grew up Marshall Brown. It doesn't mean I don't love Ohio State's business. And I love Ohio State, Michigan and I love Indiana's awesome. And my mom, my whole family lives in Cincinnati. They're all Big Ten lunatics. Yes. So it's not a bias. It's just.

[Steve Palazzolo]

It is.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Let me give you this list. Who are the easy Outs in the Big Ten. How about Purdue? Michigan State? Wisconsin. This fraud of a Penn State team. Rutgers. That's fine.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Ucla.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Northwest.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Stern.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That's Minnesota's middle of the road. Like I mean I wouldn't Minnesota.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I was having a sneaky good season by the way. I was having USC is a really good team. Minnesota is a good solid team. Middle of the road. Illinois. But like yeah, you got to fight Nebraska's. Eh, but you got to fight. But I just, we just gave you seven teams. Northwestern, ucla, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State this year, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Purdue. They might all beat Kentucky except Wisconsin and Purdue.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But they're going to be fights. Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

So that's. And again I want to, I, I feel like I got off. I, I shouldn't have made it personal.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

This is what happens too when you.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Fight with your significant.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Sometimes you don't know why you're fighting with your significant other until they, until they lose their minds and finally tell you what's wrong. Because I knew you couldn't be yelling at me about Julian saying and I know he's like freaking awesome, but you had so next time stop fighting me on Julian saying when he completed 87% today and he looks like a truly progressing quarterback that very obviously to any out there has a lot of talent. Just tell me what you want to fight about. You want to fight about. You want on an Ohio State podcast and you're not sure the level and you to the Big Ten and not the SEC and all of that. Be honest if we're going to have arguments again. Yes.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I think Julian S. Is good enough to win a national championship. I, I, I, there's nothing to suggest he's not.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. And I didn't know that that was the case and I, I thought they were going to have to do a lot more overcoming if they were going to repeat as national champions than they are now. And now he has gone from, I don't want to say liability but like we're gonna have to work around this young quarterback. But we're so good everywhere else that we can, we can win it to like now you got to deal with him too.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. And you've unlocked their greatest strength. I mean the receivers and what they can do with those guys is different now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And there are more good wide receivers in the country than you and I ever anticipated coming in this year. And there's going to be a much better draft class of wide receivers this year. And we're talking about like six, seven guys vying for position to get into the first round, next year's class, and there's going to be a whole nother six, seven, eight of them. There's going to be upwards of 14, 15 guys drafted in the first two round at wide receiver. There's wide receivers everywhere. Alabama's got two damn good ones.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Jeremy Bernard and Ryan Williams are awesome. Indiana's got two really, really good ones. Omar Cooper was awesome. Again. I'll get to him in a second.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And Elijah Surrat's the better pro prospect. Texas has got some really talented ones. I'm missing another. I did this with.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Who are we missing?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Last week I did this. Oh, Tennessee. We just saw Tennessee.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, Texas A M. Oh, yes.

[Steve Palazzolo]

What are we doing?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Concepcion and.

[Steve Palazzolo]

And Craver.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Craver. Mario Craver. Casey Concepcion. There's a lot of good duos in the country. When I tell you it's so far from close that please don't even bring it to my doorstep. Like you saw Mecca. Buka comes in and he's like one of the top 10 receivers production, production wise when healthy in. In the NFL right away.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And he wasn't even considered at the jsn. Chris Olave, all the guys before, you know, and now we've got the. We got the best maybe ever. Marvin Harrison Jr. They've had so many guys come out. Garrett. Garrett Wilson.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Just. Yeah. And a Mecca wasn't at that level talent wise. Right. But he's still like one of the best receivers in the NFL right now as a rookie.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Crazy. He doesn't get hurt. I mean, he's a runaway for the rookie of the year.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And when I tell you Carnell Tate, he's not at that level, but he's like not massively off. And every week I watch Carnell Tate. Did you see that post? It was like a post corner route that he flattened to a seam.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It was against some version of a cover two. When he. When he let. You don't have to run a 4:3 or a low 4:4 to play it at 4:3, low 4:4. And that's the difference in Tate this year. That and he's. The contested catches, more consistency catching the ball. Right. The confidence when the ball in the air is part one. That is different from last year with Tate because I came in this year. I just looked at my grades. I'm gonna pull it up right now.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Let's go. These.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

This is from early in the season, preseason when we just looked at wide receivers. I said, there's a bunch of good ones. I Don't know if there's any like if Jordan Tyson was up there. Legitimate first round grade. You and I talk Antonio Williams, I said 91, which is like fringe, but it's, it's first round. Like his tape a lot from Clemson. I still think he could go in the first round. Worst case, top 50. Jeremy Bernard, 90 grade. Really liked him. And then Carnell Tate, I gave an 84 overshadowed Mecca. Jeremiah Smith.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Adam Day 2 2.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But, but it was like basically that he wasn't polished to the level of a Mecca and wasn't confident with the ball in the air. Even though he only had three drops last year. Wasn't that like that like, oh, balls up, go get it. Change both of those things. So back to that, that touchdown today. And I wrote, I wrote it down. I think I texted it doesn't matter. It was a post corner that he flattened out in the seam. He leveraged the corner, got up on the safety, gave this and then burst it out. That safety, it must have been five, six, seven yards of separation. And I want to remind people Carnell Tate reportedly ran like a 4, 7 or something stupidly horrific coming in out of high school. Yeah, scary tough. Yeah, they're tough, but they're a lot of times kind of accurate. Like they always get a little faster. But it's not like you don't go. So I don't know if it's completely accurate.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He's not going to be a four, four guy.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He's not going to be a four, four guy dot and even the guys who you don't think are four, four guys at Ohio State, people joke it's a 39 yard 40 that they run in Columbus in, in April or late March. But he's playing like a 44 receiver at a big physical frame because he's got like they. No one has maybe in the history of college football has ever coached wide receivers up like Brian Hartline. And yes, he has recruited some of the best ever. But I'm telling you, in 25 years of doing this, I've never seen anything like it. It's like they put them into this formula and then. And like they drop them into a, as an 18 year old, 17 sometimes they drop them into this like factory of refinement and polish and they come and they go in with a lot of positive things and they come out this like absolute NFL pass catching machine. And now you got a quarterback who's confident throwing to him. Oh, and by the way, saying today I watched him throw into double coverage with confidence. No Hesitation to Jeremiah Smith. And that's when I said to myself, oh, so now we got a guy who's running NFL routes precisely and will go up confidently and get the ball. And now we've got a quarterback who's confident enough because you remember don't it up, don't it. Julian Saenz job was to not it up against Texas and early this season. And then it became we're getting out big in games in the second half. We're going to open things up and let you throw and take some chances. But now it's like, let's go. You're running our thing. Here we go. And to see him throw the ball into double coverage and know his guys are just better than both of their guys. Guys combined. There were some real things I saw from saying and from that offense today that leads me to believe. Like. Like it's going to be real hard to beat Ohio State this year. Man. It's going to be really hard. I don't know. There's a team out there on a neutral site that I would give that awesome of a chance to right now. That's how good I think this team is.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. Like, I totally agree with you. There's no game that they go into right now on a neutral site where they're not favored. And I think like by like a significant amount.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think Bama might be the lead A M. But I told you, A M's gettable. I'm calling it right now.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, I agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

A M is gettable. And Marcel, I love it. Believable. But he's going to be part of how they get got. I promise.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I love A M, but they do have. They have some soft spots. They are dangerous.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think Alabama is. Hey, find this out on Monday when you decide to come back to work. Tucker that. I'm just kidding.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Tucker's celebrating a world series right now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Tucker is literally like the hardest working man at his job and one of the hardest working people out there. Like he. I'm just messing with him because he's. Because he's a good dude. Find out. Would Alabama on a neutral site versus Ohio State be the. The closest spread? Would that be the narrowest? The narrowest spread? I think the spread would be larger against Indiana. I think the spread would be larger against A and M. But I'm curious. Let's find that out for a moment.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But both things can be true, right? You can believe that about this Ohio State team and still. And still be like I want to see it. I wanna one of our tapes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes, you're right. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

One of our tape 10 tape truths on Monday is going to be fanduel giving us the truth on a couple of these odds and it will spark a discussion. I actually think it's good. It won't be a cop out. It'll actually spark a good discussion.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I already forget what the first one I was looking for. Me too. Brandon in Brandon Innis even as a number three receiver. Oh and by the way you've got. You've got a guy who's going to be one of the top five six tight ends drafted who's just kind of an afterthought. They, they take like they get him a ball here and there when. When all the attention's everywhere else. I don't think. I think they're running game and I've said this from the beginning is never going to be more than pedestrian. But other than that I don't see the flaw. You know. You know Arvel Reese in addition to that sack and a bunch of other pressures had 13 tackles today.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Dude, it's silly.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Combined, you know tackles and assist solos.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

C.J. allen's was 12 solo but that right. 13 tackles, a sack, all the hurries. All right. Yeah, we're. It's one in the morning already, huh? The first was. Was Indiana Ole Miss neutral site. Yeah. So that's gonna be one of our tape trues on Monday. Talk about Miami now the I say so we get two segments left. Hang in there with us. How's our chat doing? The first one is of the two. It's growing. You sons of. I love you. I love how I think the World.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Series ended and they.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay. However we get there.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We get there. Hey Mariss, send out a tweet X post. We're still here. World World Series loonies. So the Dodgers won back to back. Yeah, congratulations. But like not really Red Sox.

[Steve Palazzolo]

All right, what's the next segment?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Acc.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

This was an absolute unmitigated disaster for the ACC today.

[Steve Palazzolo]

What do you mean? This is.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

This is the ACC that Clemson was supposed to lead the charge with Miami right behind him this year.

[Steve Palazzolo]

And then.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And then Clemson came out and it continues to be a disaster. Say a prayer for Dabo and all the followers there. Like this is a mess. Do you see that meltdown from Dabo?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh yeah, dude, you gave up.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They gave up 46 and then bitching about the. The refs at the end, it's just not a good look. No, the youth's just putting it on. Cincinnati. Sorry, Jeff Lewis.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah, Jeff, I, I thought it was gonna be a different situation here.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. ACC nightmare number number eight, Georgia Tech goes down to NC State and kind of like hung around, battled and all that stuff, but kinda just got beat. It wasn't a fluke, it wasn't a last minute comeback. It was. They just were like down 7 to 10 to 14 points. This entire game.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I lost by 12, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That lost by 12. And that's about what the difference was. It was a two score game. The entire game it felt like. And all of a sudden it went from 38 to 30 and, and I just talked about Tim Tebow 2.0 and maybe, and maybe he has that Ole Miss 2008 Tim Tebow speech for the, for the media and his and his teammates to hear and maybe.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Do you know what his number, do you know what his numbers were tonight?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They were, they were increasing as we went.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He threw for 408 yards and ran for 103.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's never going to be Haynes. It's just. Does Haynes have enough to overcome all the other issues?

[Steve Palazzolo]

He had 511 yards of total offense.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He's unbelievable. He's Tim tebow in, in 20, 25. I don't know. I don't know what else to tell you. Tim Tebow, Tim T. Tim Tebow lost this game to Ole Miss. I just gave you the answer to the test. You walked right in the track. So Georgia, so, so the ACC has. Miami had a loss, but they're still in it. They're still ranked 10. CO10 by the way. I forget who they're CO10 with, but that's like AP Pickett one or the other. But they were CO10 in the polls this week. Week. BYU maybe.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I didn't even notice it. That's gross.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I know. I just noticed it tonight.

[Steve Palazzolo]

It was BYU.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, but they were still ranked 10 and, and SMU got a. Ranked a win against a top 10 opponent. And had they beat BYU, they would have got to win against the top 10 opponent. But you got Miami clinging to life and still like a big program. Irvin's. Michael Irvin's on the sideline and, And Carson Beck's gonna bounce back and we got all this talent and Malachi, Tony's the best freshman in college football and all this stuff still promoting like we're moving the ACC train forward and it's. Clemson had to jump off early in the season, but we Got Miami and we got Georgia Tech. We got Haynes, King and we got the canes. And then November 1, 2025 happened and this conference got gutted.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Are you not as excited about that UVA team?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And then uva. Even the two wins that they got for the ranked opponents, UVA is uninspiring.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They keep winning.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I know they do, but like who are we kidding? Can we just be honest? I'm sick and tired of like 31, 21. They had a 10 point win Cal, but they go grinded out another win. And Louisville, who You know how big of a fan. And I love, I love Virginia, I love and Louisville, Pitter and Lisa and the Wood family and uncle Craig and all my cousins are on. And I love Charlottesville and I love the Longs. Apparently Roback is made there and like the boys from Charlottesville, like I got family there man. And I'm pulling for them. I've always wanted them to be good but like we're not. This is. And we're going to get into the different classes in college football when they're TMS. Top 12 coming up in a minute. But Virginia like uninspiring Louisville against Virginia Tech. 28, 16 uninspiring. They're just. They are who they are. They belong in the top 25. They're not top 15 teams. Even though the one or both of them might sneak in. They're not top 15 teams this year. So where do you turn now? Because now you're looking at a 2 loss. I'll pull it up. You're looking at a 2 loss. I mean it's gonna be Virginia. Can you imagine Virginia? Georgia Tech is your ACC championship game.

[Steve Palazzolo]

No, look, I think Georgia Tech's in real trouble. I mean they gave up 196 rushing yards to North Carolina State's backup running back C.J. bailey, the starting quarterback for North Carolina State. Banged up North Carolina State didn't have its starting tight end. I mean there's. This may have revealed some things about Georgia Tech. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost a pit and then they have Georgia. Georgia Tech's gone from the feel good story of the year and Haynes King being awesome to their. They're in trouble man, because of that defense.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Do you know what I'm rooting for?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Chaos.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, there's already chaos if you look at it right now. I know Georgia Tech has. Virginia is the only team in the ACC without a, without a loss.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Georgia Tech because they, they lost to North Carolina State in a game that was a non Conference game. Make sense of that. McShay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's a good point. I forgot about that.

[Steve Palazzolo]

That's wild. I don't understand. Things don't make sense to me.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Georgia Tech with Haynes, King, who I absolutely love. Louisville, Riley Moss and the Braum brothers. Absolutely love.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Chris Bell, that wide receiver.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Smu, awesome win today. Jennings, just a dude like, awesome athlete.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, love them. Love the head coach. But they're not there this year.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All those programs. Virginia, Georgia Tech, Louisville, smu. I don't want him in the ACC championship game. You know who I want? Do you know who I want? Steve Duke. I want your guy versus my guy. I want Darien Mensa versus your youngster pit. That's what I want.

[Steve Palazzolo]

It would be awesome.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But they're all in it. They're all in it. But the ACC might only get one in, man.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, they should own. They should only get one in.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And the Big 12 is only getting one in.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep. You got to make room for those other teams, man.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There should be five from the SEC this year. If Texas holds up, maybe the bargain. Minimum four. All right. But it was a disaster.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. Can we talk about Miami really quick, please? You know that Mario Cristobal, the head coach of Miami now is Six losses to teams that were double digit underdogs to the, to Miami. Six losses, penalties of key moments. Carson Beck, that, that I, I said. One of our tape truths this week is watch out for Carson Beck because he likes to throw him in bunches, baby. And he had two today.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You nailed it. And you absolutely nailed it.

[Steve Palazzolo]

And the one in the, in the, in overtime was as bad as it gets.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Horrible.

[Steve Palazzolo]

All kinds of time, had all kinds of space, held onto the ball. Malachi, Tony, maybe run a better route. A little bit of a better route. I don't care. It's a terrible pick by Carson Beck. And then did you see the comments after the game?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They were calling the same thing. I just execute the play. I just like, dude, what, what are you talking about? Have some accountability, man. Like, have some accountability. So you look at this Miami team. Now you're worried about disability. You know what, I gotta give me one second because I want to pull up these numbers for you and, and tell me how Miami, how does Miami freaking lose this game?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay, Miami.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Held SMU to 3 of 13 on third down and over one on their fourth down. They're rushing the SMU average 0.9 yards per rush today. 0.9. Miami held the ball for 37 minutes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And 42 because they don't have any confidence in their quarterback and their offense. How do you find dude something? You know what happens. You know what happens when you date a really, Like a smoke show?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

From the.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I don't.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You ever see that? Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Except for my wife.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes. Iris is an absolute smoke. There, I said it, remember? Have you ever seen that video? And probably Twitter or wherever it was. It's on YouTube somewhere. I'm sure you can find it. It's one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. Finding, like, the sweet spot between beautiful, like, hot and crazy.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yes. Well, this team looks so hot, and then one day you wake up and you realize there's no substance there. There's a phrase I want to use. I'll probably get in trouble for it. I didn't. I didn't create the phrase. Find me a supermodel and I'll find you a dude who's sick of her. That's the. That's the quote.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's a live show, but, like, it's 130.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Whatever.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

My point is, like, all the things I talked to the Ferraris and the Cabinet, like, I'm over all that. I'm just saying, like, there's got to be substance. And all the reports were the first one in. The teammates love them and all that stuff, but you start coming out and you start blaming everybody else in the building instead of the accountability. And it's not even about the press conference stuff. It's about what's actually going on. Why is it there doesn't seem to be a lot of confidence in this offense? Why is it. Something's just. I kept writing. Something's missing. Yeah, they got him on the. They had him on the rope so many times today. And it's like, do the coaches not trust him in these moments? And then the coaches give him some trust, and then he fails them, and it. Nothing was. And then I see. I see the coordinator blanking right now, screaming at Crystal Ball, but he's never screaming about one of the running back. There's just always seems to be some of this stuff associated with this team. And you had a quarterback last year that actually truly at his core, is one of the most accountable.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Get in your face. I don't care what's going on with the coaches. I don't care if you like your position coach. I don't care if Crystal Ball makes bad decisions. Management. I don't care if we're undisciplined. We have penalties. You will be accountable to me and to Be accountable to me is to be accountable to every one of your teammates and this program.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And he did that. Cam Ward did that for Miami and the defense sucked and the offense was good, but wasn't exceptional around him. It wasn't Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate, you know.

[Steve Palazzolo]

No.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But they put up points in bunches because there's enough talent in Miami to do it. When you have a quarterback who, yes, has unbelievable talent but keeps everyone in line. Now you fast forward this year, I would argue they actually have more talent, Miami offensively.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And the quarterback's really talented when, when he's happy, when things are going well and he's confident, but when things don't start to go well or there's that, those tough moments. It's the same reason that the folks in Athens didn't even say thank you for your service. They just said, no, thank you, Gunners.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Our guy, he is who we thought he was. That's what, that's what I. That's what I'm getting right now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. So that sucks for Miami and that sucks for the acc. But if there's, if there's a silver lining, like, Pitt's actually a good football team.

[Steve Palazzolo]

They're. They're fun.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Interesting. Duke's actually like a dangerous football team. And yeah, they almost lost the Clemson, but like, I don't know, it could be. We all now know the ACC definitively is only getting one team into the College Football Playoff. So let's just all sit back and relax and let's watch five to five, six different teams fight it out during this last month and see what happens. Yeah, you know, it's going to be kind of fun to watch.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I agree. If I had. Who do you think?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, the acc. Great poll. If you're. If you're still on the chat and the chat keeps growing, this is awesome. So who's winning the ACC poll? I'm gonna ask you this, Steve and I, and I'm telling you, you got to go to your bank and take $1,000 out. A thousand dollars that could go to your baby girls College Fund, you know, 529.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But you're either going to lose it or you're going to win like 5 to 1. Odds. Who's winning? The ACC, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Louisville, or the field. And the field includes smu, Duke, Pitt, and even Miami with two losses in the conference.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm going to go with Georgia Tech.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Because as much as I give you a hard time, I really believe in Haynes, King and Brent Key. And I think the one team that I think I. Louisville is the second best team. I think Georgia Tech is the best team in the acc and I think Louisville is the second best team. So I'm gonna go Georgia Tech because I think they're the best team. I think they'll find a way to beat Pitt. Georgia will be tough, but then they.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I went with the field. But Georgia Tech is currently leading. You went with the field? I did. I think something crazy is going to happen. I think SMU found a little bit of life today. I think Pitt is sneaking. I know Narduzzi and Narduz Narduzzi love him or hate him. And I've been around people who. Who. Who both, like, truly love the guy and some people just can't take him for their own personal reason.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He is at his finest in this exact position. Oh, poor little Pit. No, everyone counted us out. Yeah, we. We're up in Western pa. We play football up there a little bit, but, you know, don't worry about us. We'll try not to get in anyone's way. He's in his sweet spot right now. This is when he's the most dangerous. Nobody's talked about Pit. Eli Hood. This program's left for dead. We'll see you next year, but it might be in three years. Watch out for Pitt and men.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Georgia Tech and Miami.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Darian Mentz is the best quarterback in the acc, right?

[Steve Palazzolo]

He.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, better than clubnick. No.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Haynes King. Haynes King.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't even. Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But I get what you're saying.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Better not even passer. Oh, definitely best passer easily.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I mean, Haynes King's different. I mean, he's not even a quarterback.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He's just.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He's some kind of Greek God.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. All right, let's get to it. I hate to see this show end. This is one of my favorite shows of all time. All right, AP. Yeah, it's the TMS top 12. It's a consensus. We do it every week. At the end of the show, we might change the rule slightly. When we get to the get close to the end of the college football committee, we might have to put in, like, who we think will represent. We might even bring out. Break out a bracket. But it's always going to be the TMS top 12.

[Steve Palazzolo]

All right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And we started the jumping off point to give people who are watching on YouTube and later on Spotify or even listening. I'll read the graphic for you. There were four teams in the top 12 this, this week in the AP top 12 that had a buy. So now we're down to eight, right? Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia. All the top six. All the top seven won. Georgia and Ole Miss. Those are all teams in the top seven. They all won. Then it got interesting. Eight through 12 was a disaster. Notre Dame hung. BC hung along the heights a lot longer than Notre Dame wanted them to, but they pulled away from bc. BYU and Miami are tied. Not a typo. Yes, we already covered that. Dan, thanks. Thanks for coming back from getting all dolled up for the club.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Here we go. I don't know. Listen, I don't know why, why he's such a bad mood with you guys, Dan and Tucker, but I don't want any of that, that rubbing off on me. You guys are the best team in the business.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Maybe you just, you know, calm down a thousand times. Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Out of one side of your mouth you say how great they are. On the other side, you're talking about scooters and clubs and.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hey, Tucker, sweetheart, can you throw that graphic back up for one second? There it is. But we had three, we had three losses. Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt and Miami. Eight, nine and ten. One of two tens this year. It's wild this year. Last week was the only week where we came in where I felt, well, there wasn't much movement. So now we've got all this movement. Here's what I want to explain. Okay. And I spend a lot of time on this today because I. Maybe it's my own learning disabilities or challenges. I like to put everything in boxes and have examples so people can think about it. That it's outside of just. Here's our top 12. I want to view this as you're boarding a plane, Steve, as you and I know.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Here we go. Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

In a, in a good 767. Whether you're flying across the country to the Midwest, from the, from one of the coasts or to international. A good 757, 767. A nice plane, right? There's a first class and my God, the nice ones are nice. You can, you, you lay back, you get your own little cubicle, you know. Yeah, it's not Emirates in the States, but like we get some really nice ones. Then you get the business class. Really nice. A lot of the luxuries that you have in first class, right. But maybe you don't get quite the service or get the service as fast. Maybe a couple things missing, not quite there. Then you've got economy. And even in, within economy, there's a class system. Usually the people are smart enough who book their flights in advance and get online and pick their seats sometime. Right?

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Inside economy has the extra leg room and the exit row seats.

[Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

More space. You're not getting the first class service. You're not getting to lay back completely horizontally. You're not getting the stuff the first two classes get. But it's going to be a nicer ride than if you're stuck in 34B between someone who smells and someone who you know.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

All right. So with all that said, in my mind, if you go off this class system within the beautiful 767, everyone wants to be in first class. It's got it all.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There's four teams in that class.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And so it's a privilege to be in this class. Especially if you're a one loss team. In this class. It's Ohio State, as we all know. It's Indiana, it's Texas A and M and it's Alabama.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Right? Agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Those are the four. Are you comfortable with that order or, or do you want to tweet? Do you want A and M too?

[Steve Palazzolo]

No, no, I'm good.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

There's a business class. Just about everything is good as first. But there's something missing. Maybe. I get my meal a lot long, a lot later. Flight attendants. I'm trying to get whacked on this flight. I want eight drinks. I'm flying over to. I'm flying to Japan, getting five for some reason. But I know that guy up in three C's getting eight, eight to ten if he wants. Whatever it is. Georgia, Oregon, Ole Miss. And quite honestly, you want to know the truth? Here's the truth. And I can't do it because they played head to head. So it's got to be Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon for me.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Agree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But I think if they have to face one another again, I think Ole Miss beats Georgia.

[Steve Palazzolo]

But interesting.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon. So that's our 567. Jot it down.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oregon at Iowa next week. By the way, I want to see how that goes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Now it gets interesting. Now we're in coach and now there's a whole bunch of people in coach and economy, I think we're supposed to call it, this PC world we live in. Georgia Tech was in there with the extra leg room and the exit rows. They're gone. Here's.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Are they? Yeah, they're not in that section. I get what you're saying.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. And like I said, there are structures within. There's. There's the extra, extra leg room. You got to pay like $25 per. Or if you're smart enough and you get, and you go get the exit row. There's, there's, I think there are 10 to 12 programs, teams that are kind of fluctuating that can kind of come in and out of this. But at the top is the extra leg room. You pay an extra 25. At the top. For me, it's Notre Dame.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yes.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's Texas Tech.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

It's BYU and it's Oklahoma.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Interesting. Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I honestly think Oklahoma's. I know Oklahoma is better than byu. Get the.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I agree. They're not.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So it's, it's, it's. Notre Dame is going to be 8, Oklahoma is going to be 9. Texas Tech is 10. And I think BYU has got to be 11 for now. But by the way, folks, just in case, I, I don't expect everyone who's, who's watching or listening. How great is it? We're going to sort some things out immediately. On Saturday, BYU is going to be ranked in the top. Probably in the top 10.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yep.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

The AP voters, because they love a zero. They just love a zero. They can't independently think they love a zero. Texas Tech, BYU, next week. Where is that game?

[Steve Palazzolo]

That game?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think it's in love, right? Oh, it's in love. Game day's going there. First time game day is going since. Since Michael Crabtree.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That was the last time I was in Lubbock. I was in Lubbock with Game Day radio with Ryan Rosillo. And I, I came in late. I had something earlier in the day. I came in on Friday night. I went to one of those hotels in Lubbock where we're anywhere but like in Lubbock. You can only imagine there's, there's, there's not many halves and there's. When it's the have nots there, it's, you know, it's worse than 34B between two people. You don't want to sit. And I walked into this place at like 11:30 at night. I got in and there was no one at the front desk. You had to like, call a number if you needed anything, but they left you. Like you could get your key somehow. I forget how you could grab my key. Went up to my room. It's now it's like past midnight. When I finally figured, like, whatever. I get up to the room, I pull the sheets out. I'm exhausted. It was like. And I wasn't, I wasn't in first or business back then. 2000. No, 2000.

[Steve Palazzolo]

All right. What'd you find.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Pull the sheets down. There's blood all over the sheets. Oh, it was Halloween weekend. There's blood in the sheets. People outside are all dressed in costumes, partying their asses off on a Friday night. Halloween week. It was Halloween that Saturday night and they still were, you know, parties the night before. And so it's just like a creepy scene. What am I gonna do? Call this guy? He's gonna come 45 minutes away. And so I like laid a towel down. And yeah, it was bad. That was my last trip. But it ended well because Michael Crabtree with the touchdown beat the number one team in the country, Vince Young in Texas.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. You know, sprinting around the end zone.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yep. Yeah, so that was that. But anyway, next week, huge game in Lubbock. Biggest game since that Michael Crabtree game.

[Steve Palazzolo]

So you have two Big 12 teams in the top 12 right now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, well, one's going to get knocked out. Yep. Okay, so that gets us to 11. Who's at 12? Here's my question to you. Cincinnati was. I put him in the question mark. Get out of here. Mench's pick of the week. I'm on a heater today. My 12 is Texas. And this is the part I thought you were going to have a problem with.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Missouri is the only other candidate that I could live with. If you started with Virginia or one of these other ACC teams, like the ACC has got to play a program into the TMS top 12 as far as I'm concerned. But you can argue with me, this is out. This is ours. Yeah.

[Steve Palazzolo]

I'm starting to come around on what you're saying though. I. I think Vanderbilt's there, but they lost to Texas today, so.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, and here's my point. If Notre Dame is in there because of two great losses, I'm not saying Texas is. Are as good as well, but I know Miami's not that great anymore. They got one great win.

[Steve Palazzolo]

No, you're right.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And Texas just beat the number nine team in the country. The media darling.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And they actually kicked their ass today. Let's be honest. They took their foot off the gas late. It's a younger team. Played some prevent. Pavia is a veteran, shredded them apart. Things got tight. Whatever. They kicked Vandy's ass today in Austin.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. And look, I mean you look at.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So they're two.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Texas's two losses are Ohio State by seven and a Florida team that everyone in the like anyone in the football, college football universe knows is like the best. What are they, 3 and 5 now? They're the best 3 and 5 team in the country. I mean, no one wants to play him. Kirby.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Kirby talked about not wanting to play him today. And they, and they.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They had him 24. 20. They had him 20. They almost had a man 24. 20. 4th and 1, 651 left.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. It just scares the. They almost lose the Mississippi State and that they have these, you know, like.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm not saying their body of work like that. I'm thrilled about them at 12. I'm just saying I saw him be the number nine team in the country. If you a top 10 team. It was number nine, Vanderbilt today.

[Steve Palazzolo]

And it didn't feel as close as it ended up being.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We saw him beat an Oklahoma team that just went on the road to Neal and beat. Yeah. And. And beat Tennessee and. Yeah, it was the first game back. But like they, they kind of pushed Oklahoma around a little bit. Like they. You felt like they were the better team. Team. Not just. Yeah. Not just exploiting a quarterback. They were the better team. You're talking me into it. Kind of buy it. All right, so Texas is 12 with Missouri still lurking around there. Virginia will get its love if they, if they deserve it.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. They don't pass the eye tests when I watch them. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't add up for me.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

So here it is again. Ohio State 1, Indiana 2, Texas A&M 3, Alabama 4, Georgia 5, Ole Miss 6, Oregon 7. Then the top of the tier, the extra leg room and the exit rows. Best seats you can find in economy are Notre Dame with two losses, Oklahoma with two losses, Texas Tech with one loss, BYU undefeated and Texas. I had to talk him into it, folks, at 12.

[Steve Palazzolo]

All right, I'm buying it.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Go get some sleep. Hey, we still have like over 600 people in this chat.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Unbelievable.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We appreciate you. You guys are awesome.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Thank you very much.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Cfc. I got to get to know you better. You had a couple cool things I thought today. Ghost of Steve as Dazio is rolling tonight. Always trade back. You've literally been in this chat, brother, since 1:30. I connected with you on. On X today. Keep it rolling, Matt. I mentioned. Matt Mateus.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Yeah. The ghost of Steve Adasio who you mentioned already.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

He's been on a.

[Steve Palazzolo]

The name's great.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Jeremy. Jeremy Godden is one of the. I. I never got. Gotten some Cape Cod stuff. He did.

[Steve Palazzolo]

You gave him a.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You gave him a. I gave him a condition.

[Steve Palazzolo]

He said it was great.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah. But we appreciate Haas is getting a little. He's getting a little too big for his britches. I feel like he's. He's got other things. Maybe he's over with Van Pelt and Stanford. Steve.

[Steve Palazzolo]

Oh, my God.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

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