Why South Carolina’s LaNorris Sellers Could Have the Highest Ceiling of Any 2026 QB Prospect

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Episode Title: Why South Carolina’s LaNorris Sellers Could Have the Highest Ceiling of Any 2026 QB Prospect
Release Date: June 2, 2025
Podcast: The McShay Show
Host: Todd McShay (Speaker A)
Co-Host: [Name Not Specified] (Speaker B)

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Introduction to the Summer Scouting Series

As the summer scouting series commences, Todd McShay (A) and his co-host (B) express enthusiasm about delving deep into the evaluation of top quarterbacks, starting with South Carolina’s LaNorris Sellers. They emphasize the urgency with "just 325 days until the NFL draft and no time to waste" (01:30), setting the stage for an in-depth analysis of Sellers’ potential.

LaNorris Sellers: Physical Attributes and Background

Todd provides a comprehensive overview of Sellers, highlighting his impressive physical stature and athleticism:

"Lenora sellers, listed as six three, £240. Estimated big dude" (05:02).

They discuss his performance metrics, including his estimated 40-yard dash time and his physical presence on the field, noting how his size complements his playing style.

College Performance and Statistics

The duo delves into Sellers’ college career, emphasizing his growth and achievements:

• Passing Statistics: "He went on to complete 65.6% of his passes over 2500 yards, 18 touchdowns, seven interceptions" (06:00).
• Rushing Prowess: "Second on the team in rushing with 166 carries, 674 yards and seven touchdowns" (06:00).
• Academic Honors: "Named SEC Academic Honor Roll multiple times in just two years" (06:00).

They acknowledge his limited passing attempts as a freshman but highlight his significant impact as a starter, despite battling ankle injuries.

Strengths and Potential

Todd and his co-host praise Sellers’ natural talent and physical tools, drawing comparisons to established NFL quarterbacks:

"He's got a good arm, whether it's a 1 or a 1.5... Always has this in his pocket" (34:53).

They discuss his ability to make big plays, both through the air and with his legs, and his creative playmaking ability. The hosts are particularly excited about his raw talent and potential for growth, stating:

"The raw ability, the tools, the talent, it's exciting" (30:16).

Areas for Improvement

While Sellers shows immense promise, the speakers also address areas where he needs development:

• Accuracy Issues: Both agree his passing accuracy needs refinement, especially under pressure.
• Ball Security: "Protecting the football with when pressure's coming is a big problem" (17:50).
• Decision-Making: Instances of missed throws and interceptions highlight the need for better decision-making skills.

Todd notes that these issues are not uncommon for a young quarterback and underscores the importance of experience and coaching in his development.

Comparisons to Other Quarterbacks

The conversation includes comparisons to notable NFL QBs to contextualize Sellers’ potential:

"He reminds me... I'm just gonna throw it out. I know there's like Jackson dart comps to Jalen hurts" (26:28).

They discuss how Sellers’ physical attributes and playstyle resemble those of Jalen Hurts and Josh Allen, albeit with his unique flair and creativity.

NFL Projection and Ceiling

Todd and his co-host hypothesize about Sellers’ future in the NFL, debating whether he should return for another college season or enter the draft in 2026. They consider factors such as:

• Development Trajectory: "He's ready to play... Always better in year three than year two" (37:46).
• Situational Factors: The importance of having the right coaching and team environment to foster his growth.
• Marketability and Draft Position: Potential for being a top-five pick if he continues his upward trajectory.

Todd expresses confidence in Sellers’ ability to evolve into an elite quarterback, stating:

"The expectation is he will have developed as a passer and some of the mental makeup" (28:32).

Future Episodes and Content

Looking ahead, Todd announces the continuation of the scouting series, promising deeper dives into other promising quarterbacks like Cade Klubnick. He encourages listeners to subscribe to "The McShay Report" for more detailed analyses and mock drafts.

"We'll find out if Mensch can take the blinders off, give a fair evaluation... Cade Klubnick Continue the series Thursday" (43:22).

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a strong endorsement of LaNorris Sellers’ potential to rise as a top NFL quarterback. Todd and his co-host emphasize the importance of ongoing development, the right support system, and the natural progression of a young athlete honing his craft.

"He's got to dot all the I's and cross all the T's... Continue to progress the way that he's progressed over this year" (35:12).

They leave listeners with a sense of anticipation for Sellers’ future performances and the upcoming draft, encouraging fans to stay tuned for more insights and updates.

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Notable Quotes:

• Todd McShay (A):

  "There are things you have to take care of. You got to take care of business on the field." (35:14)

• Co-Host (B):

  "This is the danger of doing these conversations because... you have to handle your business on the field." (35:43)

• Todd McShay (A):

  "You can't coach what Jalen has. You can't coach what Lenor has. You can't coach what Lamar has. You just can't. You either have it or you don't." (28:28)

• Co-Host (B):

  "He's got to show that he can handle a little bit of buzz, a little bit of success." (34:03)

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This episode of The McShay Show offers a thorough examination of LaNorris Sellers, balancing his standout strengths with areas needing attention. Todd McShay and his co-host provide valuable insights, setting the foundation for an engaging summer of scouting leading up to the 2026 NFL draft.

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A week felt like a month. Mensch. That's when you know you love something, right? But we are back. And so too is the summer scouting series with South Carolina quarterback lenora sellers. Just 325 days until the NFL draft and no time to waste. You good men?

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I'm good, man.

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All right, let's roll this thing.

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Hey.

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I missed you men.

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Misty, too.

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It's a week away.

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Everyone else, too. Yeah, more than you.

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Tucker, Dan, Mark, Connor, everyone. Eduardo. But we're back. I'm excited to be back. I've got some urgency this summer, man.

[B]

You're fired up. Yeah.

[A]

And you're excited. You've been texting me. You're excited. You won't tell me what you think about either of these guys, which I love. That's how we've always done it. You do your tape, I do my tape. We've got the summer scouting series brand new for us, so obviously brand new for you, too, if you're tuning in. And. And thank you for tuning in. We appreciate it. We're going to do this all summer. We're starting off with the quarterbacks. Let's just get out ahead. Let's dive deeper than. That's the difference. Like, we've. We've always done like 125, 130 players each preseason, and we'll probably get to that number. I don't care if we do. Maybe it's only 90 guys. I want to do them right this year. I want to go deep and, and like, even last night, I'm up till 1 in the morning. No one gives a. I get it. I'm tweeting out or sending posts on a, on a ferry and. But, but the point in all of this is to get a foundation like we've never been able to do before because we don't have to turn in X amount of, you know, scouting reports to a certain place and we can actually dive in and have a really good feel going into the air. And honestly, with the quarterbacks more than any other position, I absolutely adore the process of the development and I want to get into it in just a second with, with Lenora Sellers. He's a great example of what you saw in week one. It's not what you saw.

[B]

It's all dominion, by the way. So it wasn't like he played Georgia in week one, but yeah, go ahead.

[A]

So we're sharing this process with you throughout the summer, and we're going to go the entire summer long. Then we'll get to August. I'm going to throw in another mock draft. We're going to throw in, you know, some college preview stuff and start getting rolling, getting ready for the season. But it's always going to have a, a touch, if not a cavalcade of. Of draft behind it. Okay. But we appreciate you being here. I know everyone's going to the beach, having fun, school's getting out, all that stuff, but we're going to be here. So join when you can and hope you. Hopefully you appreciate the process because this is what NFL scouts are doing. Getting prepared for the season, going the road for four months away from their family and. And all the things that it requires from. It's a grueling schedule, but all the things that it requires from a scout. We're trying to share kind of as much of that process as we can with you, our audience, and mensch. Tell the fine folks who are tuning in on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, wherever else they get their podcast. Tell them how they can support us.

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That's how it gets you in.

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New, new McShay report out this morning.

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Yes.

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Full breakdown of Lenor Sellers. I mean we've got plays, we get clip. We got everything. I printed out 15 pages. Not only the, the full scouting report with the background, with the, all the position specifics like the mental makeup and the accuracy and the, the release and arm strength and the pocket mobility, but also NFL comp, also kind of where he is in the process going into the season. How do we project him? Where can the growth come? And then like for some reason, with Sellers, I had more than I had with Garrett Nussmeier and more than I had with Arch Manning. Obviously with Arch. Only a limited catalog, but a lot of plays, highs and lows. Right. And I think that's a perfect way to just dive into this thing. Right. Lenora sellers, listed as six three, £240. Estimated. Big dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The prototype.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You wouldn't know it by the feet. Estimated. And this goes back to like, you know, the high school combines and some of the information we got. And quite honestly, sometimes it's just eyeballing it up on tape and what, you know, an approximation of the 40 time. I'd say somewhere that 455458 range based off of all the information we have. Ballpark. So Sellers is entering his third year. Let's just give them a little background here. He's entering his third year in the South Carolina program, third year in college. Going into 2025, only made four pass attempts. I believe he completed all four, but it doesn't really matter. It was a true, true freshman in 2023. So very limited. Gets a red shirt, comes back red shirt. Freshman year, technically last year in 2024, full time starter. Okay. He played in 12 of 13 games. Missed the second half of LSU and all of Akron with an ankle injury. Went on to complete 65.6% of his passes over 2500 yards, 18 touchdowns, seven interceptions, handful of strip sacks. We'll get to. Was also second on the team in rushing with 166 carries, 674 yards and seven touchdowns. Also of note, named SEC Academic Honor Roll multiple times in just two years. Guy's smart, he's hard working. I haven't heard a negative thing about.

[B]

Him, but that's team captain as a redshirt. Fresh. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I get the quarterback. We're always trying to put him in a position of leadership, but there's some earning that goes with that as well. Let's do it a little different today. Okay?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because we went through the position specifics, and I felt like with Nussmeier, we, we kind of got a little bit too beholden to the process of going through. And it's like, oh, five, five, seven minutes on his mental makeup. Five, seven minutes on the action. Let's rip through. Let's just do a quick comparison. Okay. I'm gonna go through the four position specific grades the way we do it and remind you, the audience, a one is excellent, A two is good. A three is average. Four is below average, five is marginal. Okay. So when we roll out those numbers, it's kind of like par and in golf, less. Less is better. Less is more. Okay, mental makeup. What did you have for a grade one through five?

[B]

This was really, really difficult.

[A]

Really tough. That's why I'm asking you first.

[B]

And I think I played it safe here in terms of not I, I. Maybe I was tougher on him than maybe you were. I end up giving him a 3. There are things that I love about his mental makeup. We'll dig into this in a second. Right? You just want to kind of rattle off scores right now. Yeah, I gave him a three. It's. It was a difficult three to give.

[A]

I gave him a two and a half, and quite honestly, I could have given him a three and a half. And based off of a handful of games early in the season, it could have given him a four.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But it's more so, like, where is he going into the season? I gave him a two and a half. So we're. We're in the same neighborhood average. Just slightly above average in terms of the, the progress. But I. Yeah, accuracy is another tough one.

[B]

We're doing halfs now, huh? I'm gonna do the half, then I'm gonna do. Because I was. I struggled with this one, too. I'll go three and a half.

[A]

I went two and a half. And I'm going to be totally honest with you.

[B]

I was ready to jump you on this one. Go ahead.

[A]

I, I then was preparing afterwards for Club Nick because we're going to do Cade Club Nick on Thursday, and I was like, the newsletter's out, but if it wasn't, I'd go, I'd go back in at least a three, and I will get into that in a little bit. Release arm strength. That's the. The load to load to arrival. The lta, if you will, from. Basically, we're. We're not just talking about the velocity on the ball, but also, you know, is it. Is it heightened or lessened? Is it. Is it made faster or slower by the. The release quickness? So one out of five, one being the best, five being marginal. What. What did you give his release arm?

[B]

One. Okay.

[A]

I went one and a half and then pocket mobility.

[B]

Would you give them one?

[A]

I went one and a half and I should go. Should have gone one. All right. I'm in an honest mood, man.

[B]

This is what's great about how we're doing it this year, though, because we talked about this before. We've done schools before. Now we're stacking guys, and you're seeing. So you know this in. In some ways. So clubnick and Sellers are. This week, we both watched them or have started to prep on Club Nick. We've done Sellers. So you're gonna. You're gonna make some of these comparisons. You're gonna be like, well, if he's a one, then he's a. It helps. It helps to see these things back to back just to see where guys stand out. Right.

[A]

No question. And we did. We did Arch, which was a limited one with our first. First summer. Summer six Scout.

[B]

Way to dip your toe in it. Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And obviously an important name and to track and get out early on, it's. And then Garrett Nussmeier, who we both really liked to varying degrees, you can go back and watch that. That show as well on. On YouTube, on the. The McShay show page, and Spotify, Apple, and wherever else you get your podcasts, we're gonna run them. So, like, if you're away on vacation with the family, we're gonna run these all summer. You can get caught up whenever you need to get caught up, but you're not going to want to miss it because there's a progression to all of these. Okay. And then as we wrap up the quarterbacks, I want to spend some time. And then it's going to be probably next week after we're done with Drew Aller and we're debating whether to do one or two more. Whether it's next week or the week after. I would like to circle back and kind of try to stack them a little bit heading into the season. Okay. I know where I want to go with it, but I talk too damn much on this show sometimes. So I'm going to let you, I'm going to open the floor, take it wherever you want and I, I'll play off of that and I know where the direction I want to go. And then we can start getting into like the nitty gritty and some certain plays and wherever else you want to go. But you started out.

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I am. The more we watch this, we go through these quarterbacks, the more excited I am about the potential of this class. Now granted, remember, Sellers is a red, He's a red shirt sophomore. He could go back for another three years if he wants and you know, could do whatever he wants. But we're talking about the guys, the class that could be right next year.

[A]

Yep, yep.

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And I am getting excited and this kid is a big part of it. He is a big part of it because there is a lot of. Oh, no. Moments. There is a lot of that's got it. Got to get better. I think the accuracy, accuracy's got to get better. The anticipation's got to get better. But that being said, some of the things that he does. Okay, the first, the first play that comes on tape for his is like positive grade reel, right? There's something like 100 plus plays on this. He throws a ball 70 or 65 yards, maybe 75 yards, I have it 65 yards in the air and hits a guy in stride and the receiver drops it, but hits the guy in stride against Old Dominion right away. Okay, all right. I guess, I guess he's got a, I guess he's got a pretty good arm. And then you see when you, I know you had this play in the Kentucky game where he has to, he climbs, then he slides laterally to stay behind the line of scrimmage. And then he throws a 20 yard dart with the guy hitting him in the face and no way that he can follow through. And I'm like, okay, talent wise. And then let's just throw it in. We'll talk about this. We might as well talk about it now. He has a 75 yard run against LSU where he makes, makes the safety miss and no one's catching them. So. Yeah, I wouldn't, I, I would agree with you that it. I, I'm guessing his 40 time is about what you said, but I'd like to see his, his time on the field. He plays fast. Man, he is fast for a £240 guy. So just IM. It takes almost no time when you throw this kid's tape on to see the talent the other thing that I think is super important to what's happening here or what's happening with his progress is when you watched him late in the year against Missouri and how he played in that game, he had five touchdowns. I called him Superman after that game. I stand by that. The way he led South Carolina to a win in that game and then against Clemson where he did it with his feet and had a 20 yard scramble for a touchdown. Just making plays, finding ways to put the team on his back. The Clemson game, he didn't have a great game throwing the ball, man. I think he threw for 165 yards right in that range.

[A]

But he was a.

[B]

He ran for 166, 2, including the game winning scandal with about a minute left.

[A]

It wasn't like cheap get on my back, man.

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Yes, I'm ready. I'm. I am going to win this game. There is no way. And by the way, at that time, I know they didn't get in at that time there, it seemed like there might be a playoff spot on the line. There was a lot on that game and he was like, get on my back. Now the flip side of that stuff that I will say is he goes against Illinois in the bowl game and he ba. I mean, he has a perfect opportunity to win that game late and he just misses the throw to his tight end. I mean, inexplicably, a throw that you need to make in the NFL, 10 out of 10 times he just misses it. It just, it's just not a good throw. So he's got to clean that stuff up. But remember, this kid was 19 last year. He doesn't turn 20 until happy birthday, Lenoris. This month he is 19 years old. Doing these things against SEC defenses. You got to keep it in mind, man. You have to keep in mind how young he is, but how inexperienced he is because there are a lot of negatives and I get it, but the talent is outrageous.

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I loved watching him last fall, right? I loved watching him last fall. And I, and I had done just a, a little bit of tape kind of preparing for our show, but not with, not through this lens. Okay? So when I put on the tape and was viewing it through this exact lens, I was like, oh, because ODU wasn't great.

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No.

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And it looks like a fish out.

[B]

Of water in time at times in that game, man. Like, is this kid gonna finish the year as a starter? Kind of a performance.

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Kentucky's where I was like, oh, he had one throw like nine minutes of first quarter. Quick trigger. Rpo anticipation look good? Okay, here we go. You know.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Then there's a little bit of climb. The pocket slide I think you just mentioned. So I left the receiver flashing late, right? And I wrote two in there. That. That was a moment there too. Is 3rd and N backed up. Shadow of end zone. Impressive stuff. A lot of poise. But it fell off after that. 5, 155. Second quarter. Can't hold on to the ball awareness in this moment. With a rusher breaking free. Question mark. Like catches. Catches a break because his teammate caught it. Caught the loose ball, but it was a strip sack. Okay. One play later, bud. Interception overthrow. Rusher bearing down. Front side pressure again. So Stoops is no idiot, right?

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Right.

[A]

Let's keep the front.

[B]

So you show me you could beat it. Yeah. Until you show me you can beat it. It's coming.

[A]

Let's keep.

[B]

That's what you're gonna see in the league too, man. You're gonna see the same.

[A]

No question.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Relentless. And this is the sec. It's. It's. You know, it's. It's the closest thing too. Now we're in the third quarter and not. Not many plays later, but you get a halftime in between. Strip sack. Holds on the ball too long. Front side pressure again.

[B]

I didn't get into that big picture. The. The. The ball. Security is a big problem. It might be the big biggest weakness right now. You can talk about the accuracy and some of the decision making and learning how to read defenses and all that stuff. Dude, you got to hold on to the ball. I think there was 13 fumble clips to look at.

[A]

Gets. He got bailed out again, though. It was like the first play of the third quarter. Bailed out again. Teammate picked up the ball and actually ran it for a positive run. Okay.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Then I wrote Groundhog's Day. Another strip stack by front side pressure you get. So imagine I'm actually sitting on. I'm on a ferry, okay? And I'm watching this and I want to yell, but I've got people around and people are, like, having drinks and they're getting ready to go on vacation.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I wasn't. I'm getting pissed. So that's four times in. In like a quarter and a half. Front side pressure. Critical error. Not protecting the ball. Interception. Not protecting the ball. Got bailed out two of those three times. But now the fourth time. Strip sack, front side pressure. Nightmare sequence is what I wrote. Got to start learning from these mistakes. UK recovered this one. We're not. We're just. We're just starting the third quarter. Then there was a play later in the third. I was like progress front side. He sensed the front side pressure. So in game. In game adjustment rolls to his left, locates delivers open target. Good job sensing and eluding. There were some other good plays. Right. Two things that jumped out early that I started tracking in my notes. The front side pressure. Well, three, I guess the front side pressure. But I know that's going to be corrected event eventually. But how long does it take him to figure it out and why? Secondly, when he's missing, he's missing high.

[B]

Yes. Footwork stuff and over the middle. That's that. That's a nightmare. Yep.

[A]

And number three, it's actually should be number two as you just touched on. There's this thing in him as a 19 year old pup where I am so. And, and I want to remind the audience we're talking through this like and we're going to get to all the positives too because there's a hell of a lot of them. But you got to remember he was a 19, he was a 18, 17 to 18 year old kid in high school and he's so talented he didn't have to worry like, like, you know, I go to high school games around here and I'm sure it's better down the south where he was playing, but it's still high school kids and they're not all going on to play college. And so he's probably, you know, get off of me and ripping through and so like the things he got away in high school because he was so much more talented than everyone who was playing because I got news for you, he's on the field with a bunch of SEC people, bunch of stars and he's still one of the, one of, if not the best player on the field almost every time as the season starts to progress. So you can only imagine in high school so he's got some bad habits he's got to work through. But the protecting the football with when pressure's coming and it's not even like we'll see the hand span and what's going on there but like to me it's more like this hero mentality or like he's, he's. Think about yourself. I remember like I was indestructible. So it's learning and it's reps. Okay, this is UK is his second start in his first start against SEC. Okay, so now we're on to LSU. You talk about that 75 yard touchdown run, really nice deep Shot under pressure. I. I didn't take a ton away from the SLSU game. Like a couple good, couple bad, but nothing like jarring to me.

[B]

And he missed a half, so.

[A]

And he missed it. And he missed. That's right. He missed a half. Yeah, and he missed. I mentioned before the full Akron game so that there wasn't as much on that. But then we're back to Ole Miss and I see a flash, like, third quarter, clock speeding up, smart decision, tucks and runs. I even wrote 156. Like, now we're start. I saw in that game, like, now we're starting to play with some confidence, right? I actually want to say this. I actually think I was tainted with his mobility grade by early on. He seemed sluggish. And I Now looking back on it, I honestly think he was hesitant as the season progressed. And I. I write in here, like, all right, like, now he's playing with confidence, taking off and running more sub. So where was the. Now we're playing with confidence. 156, third quarter, rolling right, avoids rusher, locates, connects with the receiver. Starting to see. See him play loose and free. They're down 27 to 3, though. But he's still, like, still. And I can remember going back to high school, man, at some point, it's so much mental, like a. There's a. A switch that flips where you're like, it. It doesn't matter. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, it can be a negative thing, but it's almost. It can be a very. It goes back to what you said about Jaden Daniels at Notre Dame. We've talked. We've had this conversation before. It's. It can be a negative thing for these guys, but some guys need it. Like, just let it go, man. Like, let it rip. Go do your thing. You know what I mean? And. And when you get that confidence and you start making throws and you start getting momentum is a real thing in sports, man, and it's a confidence builder. Confidence is a real thing for quarterbacks. And when they start getting it, it. You. You see it. It just jumps out.

[A]

So I'm going through all this to try to provide the audience kind of what. What I'm watching and witnessing, and I'm like, this isn't very good. But now in like, second half LS or Ole Miss, they're getting blown out. So most people have turned the channel. Like, fans are probably disgusted. But. But I saw, I saw that. That switch flip where it was like, all right, I'm just gonna start Doing my thing. And. And I felt like early in the season, understandably so. He. He was hesitant at times. He didn't know his limitations at times. But in this game, you know, taking off and running more on subsequent plays. Offensive line struggling to protect that vicious old missed pass rush. But it felt like Lenore's for the first time the last quarter and a half that I had watched him during the year, during this, his first year as a starter. I'm taking matters into my own hands now, and he. And he kind of never looked back. It wasn't all perfect. I can go through all these pages of notes, right? And, like, did he lose a fumble again? Needs better ball security. Pressure comes, but there's ups and downs. There's ups to go with the downs, you know, and there were every one of those.

[B]

I had no in my notes. I kept writing in capital letters for the positives. How. How did he make that play? How does he make that throw? Like, it.

[A]

He.

[B]

He can do things that other guys can't do. And, you know, they played Alabama after the Ole Miss game. They lost that game, too. They're three and three at that point. And then they rattle. Then they start rattling off wins. And he's something. Exactly.

[A]

And I. And I promise.

[B]

Fun to watch.

[A]

If you go back and watch it through this lens, watch how much quicker he is. Watch how much more loose he is as an athlete, which translates to trying to, like, make that extra cut or doing, you know, like, he started to play like the Lenoris who was a. Whatever star that. That Coach Beamer fell in love with in the program, decided he's our guy, right? And. And most importantly, he started to play like the guy that Coach Beamer, with a lot of talent on that team last year, going into an SEC schedule with a loaded SEC schedule, said, I don't need more experience. I need Lenoris. You know what I mean? And I know Shane, and. And I'm. And I'm certain Shane was in his ear, like, I chose you, bud. Go be you. I recruited you. I know your family. I know, like, there's. We're in this together. Go be you. And he started to do that. And it's special. He reminds me. I'm just gonna throw it out. I know there's, like, Jackson dart comps to. Jalen hurts. And this. This guy's a bigger. Jalen hurts in my mind.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

And I wanted. And I want to say that. And I want you to think back to Jalen hurts at Bama even before he got to Lincoln Riley In Oklahoma, he was not a great passer.

[B]

No.

[A]

The decisions this guy in his. In the beginning, I'd have to go back to Jalen early on. I don't think he made quite the. The number level of mistakes.

[B]

But what I would agree with that. I don't think Jalen was careless as careless. Not careless might be too harsh. But Jalen took a better care of the football then than at this point.

[A]

Lenores had 33. He took 33 sacks and had a bunch of strip sacks in 12 games played. Okay, it's a lot, so. But I do want to get. I really want to make this point. What is dedication?

[B]

The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariana. We call him day date for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job.

[A]

That's dedication.

[B]

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[A]

The U.S. department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. It's a one year starter and I want you to remember where Jalen was at Alabama as his first. In his first year as a starter, there were flashes, there were some amazing things, but he was a hell of a lot better as a runner than he was as a passer. Right, Right. And then he got benched and then he went to Oklahoma and he became a better passer. But he's. Even when he came in the league, even his first year, you know, starting in the league, he has developed. And so I try to look at it through this, that lens of I can't coach what he's got, man. He's two inches taller than Jalen. He's 20 pounds 15, 20 pounds heavier than Jalen, yet he's just as fast and he's just as sudden. And when he's playing with confidence, he's just as creative. That's like that creativity is so dangerous and you can't coach that shit. Okay? You can't. You can't coach what Jalen has. You can't coach what Lenor has. You can't coach what Lamar has. You just can't. You either have it or you don't. And so like the, the old adage over, you can't, can't coach accuracy. And you're either accurate or you're not. Like, no, it's not True anymore. It's not true anymore. But in a league where you had to be so proficient as a pocket passer because mobility was not part of playing that position. Position, you lived and died on it. So if you weren't accurate coming in the league, you weren't going to last very long because you didn't have a backup plan. But Cam Newton had a backup plan. Lamar Jackson had a backup plan. Jalen Hurts had a backup plan. Lenora Sellers always has this in his pocket. Always. And by the time he starts to lose, maybe a step or a half a step. The. The absolute not. I don't even want to say hope. It's not hope. It's the. The expectation is he will have developed as a passer and some of the mental makeup. Right.

[B]

Yeah. I don't listen that. I just. That's why I don't hate the Jaylen Herz comp. But, like, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I guess bigger. Jaylen Herz is awesome. So don't get me wrong. I think this kid could be Josh Allen. Like, I see Josh Allen because I see that frame. He's that much bigger. When you look at how big this guy is and what he can do, and I think about the games that Josh Allen is. I mean, basically, I just think he.

[A]

Twitch and doesn't have the arm of Josh. I think he has a damn.

[B]

Oh, man, I don't know.

[A]

Josh Allen's arm. Yes.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I stood freezing my ass off in Wyoming and then not freezing my ass off again at his pro day in Wyoming and watched him, like, flick it.

[B]

Getting an allergic reaction to the horses.

[A]

That was horrible.

[B]

That game.

[A]

It was that game.

[B]

Listen, I know you earned it, man. I know you saw him throw live, and I have not seen Lenore Sellers throw live, but when I see him, I haven't either. Hit a guy 65 yards in stride and I see him with like no follow through, just zipping the ball in. Maybe it's not as strong as Josh Allen, but, I mean, what are we just now.

[A]

No, I hear you. I hear you.

[B]

She's got a strong arm, man.

[A]

I guess it's more like the intermediate stuff. I didn't think there's quite the energy fitted in spots, but we'll see.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, we're not going to agree on everything. I just see and remember Josh Allen coming out of Wyoming. A lot of questions about the level of competition he faced. Obviously, Lenor Sells won't have that, but the level of competition and the accuracy issues. Was he refined enough as a passer? And. And before the Bills went out and got cook at running back, Josh Allen was basically their running game whenever it mattered. He was. I mean, he was their best runner by far, and I still think may be their best runner. And you look at what Lenora Sellers can do in those games. The. The run against LSU, 166 yards against Clemson, can't get a going with his arm, just takes over with his feet. I don't know, man. I know. I know it's the ceiling. I know Lenora Sellers isn't there yet. I get it. But the raw ability, the tools, the talent, I mean, it's exciting.

[A]

I want to say this, and Shane, if you're out there, you can clip it if you want. And I know, like, it's, you know, it's worth the. Not even as much as the paper that I printed my report on, but if we're making this decision based on Lenoris, not South Carolina, not an NFL team that wants him, not an agent, if we're making this decision, I know this is so premature, but if we're making a decision on the future of Lenoris and how great he can be in the NFL, I don't want to see him in 2026.

[B]

I know, I know. And it's fair.

[A]

So when. When. Do you want to be selfish? Do you want to be selfish because you want him in the draft this year because he's so freaking talented and all that, or do you want to be selfish when he gets in the league as an evaluator to say that's the best Lenoris can be? Lenor is prepared. He's ready to go be the best he can be and get that second contract. I don't know what they're paying down in South Carolina. I'm sure it's good enough, and it's a hell of a lot better than what people were getting paid under the table in years past. Okay. And I hope people don't hear. Hear that as a negative either, because if we're truly going to do this business in the way we've structured it and the way we've. The same mentality, you and I have always had, like, a very small fraction of our job. That's why I used to get calls from Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and many, many others yelling and screaming because if they thought, and sometimes they were right, sometimes I maybe overvalued somebody, sometimes I was right and they were ready. Okay. And I'll never bring up a name of those conversations.

[B]

I have so many names running through my head right now, but go.

[A]

I know, but. But my point is this damn good nickelback and a damn good wide receiver in the league. I nailed it.

[B]

Couldn't help yourself.

[A]

My point is this. I want to see him develop because he's got a chance to be so special. Men.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This guy is different. He's not 6 2. He's not 6 1. He's 6 3, maybe 63 and change. He's not 220. He's 240. And he moves like. He's not Lamar, but he moves like, better. Maybe better than Jalen, you know, like in that he's in that range.

[B]

It's a straight line speed, but he's also got that nice hesitation move that he throws in where guys he can get. He can do the throws a little Hesi in and cuts back. He's not a. He's not a.

[A]

When he gets going here, when he gets going and does some. He's pretty good. Yeah, I just. I. And he's got a good, really good arm, whether it's a 1 or a 1.5. Like he. He can make every throw with juice.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And he's only gonna get better as a passer.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's going to be interesting, man.

[B]

And he's got to listen, like I. I mentioned it. He's got to show that he can handle a little bit of buzz, a little bit of success. No reason to think. There's no reason to think that based on his background that he won't be able to do it. But you got to show you can do it. You got to build on what you're doing.

[A]

We said the same thing for Arch.

[B]

Right. You got. There's things you have to take care of. Business, man. It's. This is. This is the danger of doing these conversations because we. Of having these conversations because, oh, you know, men said this and McShay said this and all that. You got to go out there and handle your business on the field. What we're seeing right now is really. Can be excited about, but nothing you. You don't write draft reports. You don't. Teams don't make decisions based on how a guy looked the year before or in June of the year before they go into their last year of college football. It's just not something that happens. You got to take care of business.

[A]

Yeah. And I want to remind people, like, Caleb started 35. What was it? 35, 37 games.

[B]

Something like that. Yeah.

[A]

And I'm not saying Another year would have necessarily done it.

[B]

But.

[A]

But his rookie year didn't go as well as the guy who started 56 games. And I think it's 56.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I, I always mean to check these numbers, but it's in the mid-50s for J. For Jaden Daniels. And it didn't go as well as the guy who was the sixth quarterback. 12 overall. Bo Nicks, who started at the time, the most. The most starts in College football history. 63 or 60. I think it was 60.

[B]

64. Right down there. Yeah.

[A]

And so when I'm looking at this and I saw how raw and kind of overwhelmed at times he was early in that season, I kept reminding myself, this is his second start against Kentucky.

[B]

19.

[A]

And he's 19. It's his first start in the SEC. Like, chill.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. But even if he. Even if SEC goes on an epic run, they play their 12, they win the SEC championship and they play, or they play in the SEC championship, get in and play four games. That's 17 games. He still doesn't have 30 starts because he had 12 last year. And so, yeah, it's above the Parcell's number, but we're starting with. With this Nil and College Football Playoff and the transfer portal. Right. We're starting to get a look at, hey, these quarterbacks are easier to evaluate now because we know what we're getting. And, and, and much more important, throw out the evaluators. We've all learned to get thick skin in this job. They're ready to play. They're much more ready to play. How could you not be? If you do your job for two years, in year three, you're going to be better than you were in year two.

[B]

Typically, if you're any good at it. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But you know what I mean, if you're good at it, if you're good at it to begin with and you're motivated.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm going to be better at my job. I know I was better at this, at television, at radio.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

At writing, at evaluating. I was better at all four things in the third year than I was in year two. And I'd like to think in year 25, I'm better than I even I was in 24. I actually know I am killed that last draft, and I know a lot better than you were in every aspect of it.

[B]

So nowhere to go but up. Stop it.

[A]

Yeah. And that's why I just. I don't know. I'm. I'm fired up to see the development, and I hope he Gets to a point where at the end of this, this upcoming season where everyone's like, yeah, he's ready, like how could you not? He could be a top five pick, he could be QB1. But I don't even know what it would take for me to be like yeah, I still think he'd be better off going back another year. What would it take? While you think about it, While you think about it, I do want to remind people and this is where the agent part and like in the people in your ear, everyone is going to be telling him, yeah, but you know Arch, if he has a great year, right and there's talk about him potentially as a QB one, everyone who has a vested interest in him coming out in 2026, marketing people, agents, all that, financial advisors, all of that, everyone is going to say, well arches next at best your QB2 next year, you know, so go ahead, answer, answer my previous question. What would it take in your mind to be like, you know what, I think he is ready. I don't, yeah he'll improve from year three, but I think he's ready.

[B]

He's got to dot all the I's and cross all the T's in terms of having that year, right? He's got to have the great year which ideally would include a playoff run where he plays well in that playoff run. And then really what it comes down to is so much happens in the calendar year for the NFL. Who, where do we think he's going? Do we think he is a top three pick? Who are in those top three picks? Have there's been a coaching change where, where you know, like a Ben Johnson now, you know, potentially has a top three pick. Obviously that wouldn't be the name but is there a young, talented, offensive minded coaches in that top three that you feel good about going there and getting, you know, in developing in the right way? Are they picking in the top three for, for reasons that maybe they had injuries the year before and the roster is actually a little bit better and they've got a general manager who nows know what they're doing, it's got to be that situation. To me, it's got to be if you dot, if you dot your I's and cross the T's and continue to progress the way that he's progressed over this year. I mean let's be honest, it was a, it was a big jump from watching a kid against Old Dominion who looked like he was throwing up on his shoes, to be honest with you, to see where he was in those Clemson and Missouri games, that kind of a leap. I don't think it's out of the question. Again, if you're talking about that playoff run, you're talking about those four extra games potentially in high pressure situations against good defenses, ideally. Hopefully they get the, the process right this year in terms of picking the right teams. Call me if they need, if you need help. That being said, and I don't think, I don't think it's out of the question, but to me, it really does come. And this is where I think the players have some power with going back in the nil and not having to come out is you can look at what the situation is and have a good feel. I know we just had a player, Shador Sanders, who didn't manage this well, but have a good feel for where you're going to go and who could potentially take you. Because if you think you're going to end up in the right situation, you have confidence that's going to happen. It's going to sway you a little bit one way or the other.

[A]

This is awesome, man. Like, being able to just talk it through with you and like, be honest about even my report that I wrote last night at 1 in the morning. You know what I mean? I hope people appreciate it. You know, I, I just, I think it's a really good way to build a foundation to go into the season. Full transparency where we are and let's see how, let's see how it plays out. Right? But those, those, that Missouri game in the Clemson game, I mean, I even just jot it down and not like, if this is a preview of what's to come with Sellers from the last two games. Those, those two games I studied last, the confidence, the aggressiveness, creativeness as a runner and as a passer and what we just saw, it's going to be a wild ride.

[B]

Yeah, that's why I wrote it's going.

[A]

To be a wild ride. You got a chance to. It's going to be wild.

[B]

Yeah, the tools are different, man.

[A]

All right. If you, if you want a little bit more on it, the McShay report is out. Google it. Subscribe, would you, please, already. Why are you holding out? Why are you holding out? I see 20, 30, 40, sometimes 200,000 people watching our YouTube channel. I think we've got like 12, 15,000 subscribers. What are we doing?

[B]

Yeah, just Google it.

[A]

The McShay report. That's McSh a Y report. We're back on Thursday. We're folks, we're gonna find out is men's really like anti Clemson? Does he hate dabo? Does he never want to go to the Esso club? I love Clemson, man. It's got a special place in my heart. But mentioned hard on Clemson last year. Was it last year? Yeah, in the beginning of the year, it was hard on Clemson. Wasn't completely wrong.

[B]

I was fair. Fair and balanced.

[A]

Clemson fans took a little exception to it. And I'm gonna find. We're gonna find out on Thursday. Cade Klubnick Continue the series Thursday. Please join us. We'll find out if Mensch can take the blinders off, give a fair evaluation. I'm joking. No, I, I'm excited for that one, too, because club Nick's got a lot of talent as well. So appreciate you joining. We will be back on Thursday. Cade klubnick we'll start to kind of stack these guys a little bit and give you a feel for what the upcoming season's going to look like. And I got news for you. If you live in the state of South Carolina, if you've got ties, if you went to one of these schools, it's going to be a fun fall. There's a lot of talent. All right, we'll see you Thursday. Later. Must be 21 plus and present in select states. For Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + in present in D.C. gambling problem, call 1-800- GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gambling help.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit Gambling Helpline ma.org or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New.