Ep. 631: MeatEater Radio Live! A Live Turkey, MeatEater Menu, Reviewing "The Edge"

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast
Episode 631: "MeatEater Radio Live! A Live Turkey, MeatEater Menu, Reviewing 'The Edge'"
Release Date: November 29, 2024

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Introduction

In this special Thanksgiving edition of The MeatEater Podcast, host Randall Williams welcomes his co-hosts Seth Morris and Corey Calkins for a live session from their MeatEater HQ in Bozeman, Montana. The episode promises a diverse range of topics including favorite Thanksgiving recipes, listener submissions, an interview with Steve Klein from the Eastern Shore Land Conservancy, a migration report by Matt McCormick, a segment on regrettable tattoos, a one-minute fishing challenge, and the MeatEater Movie Club reviewing the 1997 film "The Edge".

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Thanksgiving Traditions and Turkey Day Hunting

Randall Williams kicks off the episode by discussing Thanksgiving hunting traditions with Seth Morris and Corey Calkins.

• Matt McCormick shares a new tradition started last year involving a whitetail hunt with friends, highlighting a memorable Thanksgiving morning kill:

  "[03:03] Matt McCormick: This tradition that has happened once."

• Seth Morris talks about an ongoing tradition of mule deer hunting in eastern Montana during Thanksgiving weekend, which he looks forward to continuing with his six-year-old child:

  "[03:40] Seth Morris: Growing up in western Montana, we would always go out to eastern Montana every Thanksgiving weekend and go mule deer hunting."

• Corey Calkins mentions pausing his hunting traditions due to having a young child but plans to revive them in the future:

  "[03:40] Corey Calkins: I can't wait to bring this tradition back to life."

• Randall humorously adds his own family tradition of hunting for bargains during Black Friday sales:

  "[04:01] Randall Williams: We have a Thanksgiving tradition at our house, but it's hunting for bargains, especially when there's a great Black Friday sale."

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Special Guest: Brogan the Turkey

The episode features a special live guest, Brogan the Turkey, brought in by Connor Smith from the Meat Eater store in Bozeman.

• Randall Williams introduces Brogan to the audience:

  "[05:34] Randall Williams: Tough. Do some in-store shopping."

• The hosts humorously attempt to get Brogan to gobble, adding a festive touch:

  "[06:32] Randall Williams: Cory, you want to try to get this guy to gobble here for us?"

• Phil jokes about Brogan needing to leave the studio:

  "[08:23] Phil: Well, Corinne was out of the room when I said this, but if anything, if he did decide he needed to relieve himself, I would not be cleaning it up."

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MeatEater Menu: Favorite Thanksgiving Dishes

In the MeatEater Menu segment, Randall, Seth, and Corey each present their top three favorite Thanksgiving dishes in a competitive draft format.

• Seth Morris starts with his number one pick:

  "[10:35] Seth Morris: My number one favorite thing on Thanksgiving is stuffing."

• Corey Calkins selects candied yams as his top choice:

  "[10:56] Corey Smith: Candied yams, candy yams."

• Randall Williams opts for classic staples like gravy and turkey:

  "[10:58] Randall Williams: I'm gonna go with gravy. Oh, just heavy brown gravy."

After a spirited debate, Randall's traditional lineup of turkey, gravy, and mashed potatoes wins the round, with Phil commending their timeless selection:

"[15:36] Randall Williams: I really screwed up this draft. ... Dr. Randall Williams is the winner. Happy Thanksgiving to me."

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Audience Submissions: Festive MeatEater Menu Dishes

Phil introduces unique Thanksgiving recipes submitted by listeners, showcasing creative takes on traditional dishes.

1. Orange Turkey:

   • Cole Barclay presents a twist on orange chicken, featuring fresh navel oranges, marmalade, tamari, and honey, served over Korean sweet potato noodles.

     "[16:45] Matt McCormick: This is orange turkey... Cut it up with Korean sweet potato noodles."

2. Wild Game Perlo:

   • A hearty dish combining duck and turkey organs with wild game sausage, served with Charleston gold rice and vegetables.

     "[17:24] Matt McCormick: Some homemade wild game stock...add cayenne pepper and mushrooms."

3. Grouse Dish:

   • Cooked using recipes from the Meat Eater Wild Game Cookbook, featuring smoked preparations.

     "[18:42] Randall Williams: Reed and Bree Shallow grouse... suggests a great side dish."

4. Black Bear "Thor's Hammer":

   • A dramatic presentation with black bear shank smoked and served on mashed potatoes with smoked onions and gravy, resembling a Halloween dish.

     "[19:13] Matt McCormick: ...smoked like barbecue, served on mashed potatoes with smoked onions and gravy."

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Interview: Steve Klein of Eastern Shore Land Conservancy

Randall welcomes Steve Klein, president of the Eastern Shore Land Conservancy (ESLC), to discuss conservation efforts in Maryland.

• Steve Klein explains the role of conservation easements in protecting over 60,000 acres across six Maryland counties:

  "[23:56] Seth Morris: We have protected north of 60,000 acres in that six county region."

• He emphasizes the importance of preserving agricultural productivity, scenic value, and water quality buffers essential to the Chesapeake Bay:

  "[24:59] Seth Morris: Conservation easements are basically legal agreements to keep land as it is."

• Steve highlights the innovative use of drone technology for efficient monitoring of large properties:

  "[27:34] Seth Morris: What the drone does is gives us a bird's eye view... helps us see impacts that would have been missed."

The discussion underscores the critical balance between development and conservation, ensuring sustainable land use for future generations.

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Migration Report with Matt McCormick

Matt McCormick delivers an insightful migration report, focusing on the impact of an incoming arctic front on waterfowl migration patterns.

• He describes how the arctic front is expected to bring widespread snow and freezing temperatures, accelerating the southward migration:

  "[32:46] Matt McCormick: A powerful arctic front is expected to sweep through all the north country... accelerating the migration southward."

• This weather system will reinforce ice buildup, closing water sources and pushing birds further south into hunting areas:

  "[33:09] Matt McCormick: The combination of fresh snow and hard freezes is a recipe for strong migration days ahead."

• The report encourages waterfowl hunters to capitalize on these conditions for optimal hunting opportunities:

  "[35:13] Matt McCormick: These are the weather fronts we all dream about in the off season."

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Tattoos I Regret Segment

In a humorous and candid segment, the hosts share hunting-related tattoos they regret.

• Phil presents his regrettable turkey tattoo, humorously critiquing its ambiguous elements:

  "[36:44] Phil: The tattoo says a puss in the pot will always find more beans. What the does that mean?"

• The discussion covers the artistic details and personal stories behind the tattoos, blending humor with camaraderie:

  "[39:32] Phil: The detail is impeccable."

Overall, the segment highlights the playfulness and personal connections among the hosts.

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One Minute Fishing: Contest with Phil

Phil takes on the One Minute Fishing challenge, attempting to catch a fish within one minute to secure a $500 donation to the University of Michigan's fishing team.

• Despite a calm and steady approach, Phil is unable to catch a fish within the time limit:

  "[46:10] Phil: You're not alone. We're in kind of a slump right now."

• The hosts express encouragement and humorously reflect on the challenges of fishing during a slow season:

  "[46:48] Randall Williams: Tough for fishing? This time of year is tough."

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MeatEater Movie Club: Reviewing "The Edge" (1997)

In the MeatEater Movie Club segment, Randall reviews the 1997 survival thriller "The Edge", starring Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin.

• Randall Williams provides an in-depth analysis of the film's themes, character dynamics, and symbolic elements:

  "[50:28] Randall Williams: The Edge employs the cliché genre of a classic survival thriller to probe fundamental questions about civilization, knowledge, and human nature."

• He draws parallels between the film and Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness", exploring the breakdown of civilized behavior under extreme conditions:

  "[60:36] Randall Williams: The Edge allows for the possibility that there is something more to civilization than mere social pretense."

• The review includes critiques of the film's realism, particularly in hunting and survival tactics, while also praising the performances and cinematography:

  "[62:54] Matt McCormick: I was shocked at how fast they tanned the bear’s hide."

• Notable Quotes from the Review:

  • Randall Williams:

    "[57:57] Randall Williams: Harrison Ford and Dustin Hoffman both turned the role played by Hopkins down."

  • Matt McCormick:

    "[65:23] Matt McCormick: The first, from the time that they wrecked the plane till their first meal was the flesh from the grizzly bear."

• The hosts conclude by sharing their varied opinions, with Phil recommending the film for its classic elements, while Matt offers a more critical perspective:

  "[73:39] Randall Williams: ...that's the highest compliment you can pay a film as a cinemaphile these days."

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Conclusion

Randall wraps up the Thanksgiving episode by expressing gratitude to the listeners and wishing everyone a happy holiday filled with food, family, and friends. The episode combines informative segments with light-hearted fun, embodying the spirit of Thanksgiving and the outdoor lifestyle celebrated by The MeatEater community.

"[74:08] Matt McCormick: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving, folks."

"[74:58] Randall Williams: This podcast is supported by BetterHelp... [continues with advertisement]"

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Seth Morris on Starting a New Hunting Tradition:

  "[03:03] Matt McCormick: One that started recently, meaning last year, just the buddies get together and do like a whitetail hunt of some sort."

• Randall on Favorite Thanksgiving Dish:

  "[10:35] Matt McCormick: My number one favorite thing on Thanksgiving is stuffing."

• Corey on Candied Yams:

  "[10:56] Corey Smith: Candied yams, candy yams... going straight for the throne on that one."

• Connor on Cranberry Sauce:

  "[13:10] Matt McCormick: The best kind is when you just pop the can open... love that stuff."

• Steve Klein on Conservation Easements:

  "[23:56] Seth Morris: We have protected north of 60,000 acres in that six county region."

• Matt McCormick's Migration Insight:

  "[32:46] Matt McCormick: A powerful arctic front is expected to sweep through all the north country... accelerating the migration southward."

• Phil on Regrettable Tattoos:

  "[36:44] Phil: The tattoo says a puss in the pot will always find more beans. What the does that mean?"

• Randall's Film Review Insight:

  "[50:28] Randall Williams: The Edge employs the cliché genre of a classic survival thriller to probe fundamental questions about civilization, knowledge, and human nature."

• Matt's Critique of the Film's Realism:

  "[65:23] Matt McCormick: The first, from the time that they wrecked the plane till their first meal was the flesh from the grizzly bear."

This structured summary provides a comprehensive overview of Episode 631, capturing all key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges, along with notable quotes for enhanced engagement.

Transcript

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[Phil]

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[Corey Calkins]

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[Randall Williams]

Welcome to our special Thanksgiving episode of Meat Eater Radio live. It's the day before Thanksgiving, coming to you not quite live from the Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman, Montana, because we're not coming to work on Thanksgiving Day. We love you all, we love our jobs, we love this wonderful company, but no thank you. I'm your host, Randall Williams and we're joined today by Seth Morris and Corey Calkins. We've got a great show for you today. We're going to discuss our favorite turkey day cuisine. With the turkey in the room, we're going to take a look at a few listener dishes. We're going to talk to Steve Klein of the Eastern Shore Land Conservancy. We got a migration report from Matt McCormick. We've got another regrettable tattoo. We've got one minute fishing. And then finally, the highly anticipated Meat Eater Movie Club where we'll be discussing the 1997 survival thriller the Edge. But first, I want to take a quick poll. Seth, Corey, you guys have any Thanksgiving traditions that involve hunting?

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, I do. One that started recently, meaning last year, just the buddies get together and do like a whitetail hunt of Some sort. Last year was with me, my buddy Sam and Chester, and Chester actually killed a 13 point buck on Thanksgiving morning.

[Connor Smith]

A 13 pointer.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

So this is a tradition that has happened once.

[Matt McCormick]

Well, we're doing it this year again. We're doing a big doe hunt this year.

[Randall Williams]

I think you're kind of counting your chickens before they hatch.

[Matt McCormick]

Well, it's happening.

[Randall Williams]

Corey, what about you? You're not on the camera, but we'll just pretend.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, I certainly have a tradition that's kind of been paused, I guess since I've had a kid, which is who's six year old. Six years old. So I can't wait to bring this tradition back to life. But growing up in western Montana, we would always go out to eastern Montana every Thanksgiving weekend and go mule deer hunting. So I can't wait to pick that back up here in a couple years with my kid.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, that'll be fun.

[Randall Williams]

We have a Thanksgiving tradition at our house, but it's hunting for bargains, especially when there's a great Black Friday sale. Just a reminder for all you listeners, we've got the Meat Eater Black Friday sale going on now. Our biggest savings of the year, up to 50% off your favorite gear across our Meat eater brands. And that sale is ongoing now through Monday, December 2nd. So if you're looking for Christmas gift for special someone or you're just like me and you want to buy stuff that you've always wanted to buy all year long, but you couldn't justify it because maybe it was just a little too expensive, you can get it now on a discount and your conscience will be clear. Now joining us in the studio is a very special guest. We have Brogan the turkey, accompanied by our colleague Connor Smith, who's an associate at the Meat Eater store in downtown Bozeman. Connor also holds the Montana state record for the 40th largest bull elk ever taken and was on episode 535 of the Meat Eater podcast. That episode title is the Fight to Save Hunting. He is also the son of our beloved friend and colleague in the human resources department, Alyssa Smith, who's been on Meat Eater and Trivia. Brogan, Connor, welcome to the show. Thank you. Tell us, how's it been going at the Bozeman store these days? It's been going good. We're doing really good on sales and getting a lot of holiday shoppers. Oh, yeah, Excellent, Excellent.

[Matt McCormick]

Are you guys open over this this Thanksgiving weekend?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, you are. Ooh, nice.

[Randall Williams]

Tough.

[Matt McCormick]

Do some in store shopping.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Now introduce us to Brogan Here. When did. I mean, what is this thing? When did you get him? What's he like? How many pounds would you say? Well, we got him about a year ago, and he kind of gobbles a lot. Pretty noisy on occasions and especially in the spring. Did you get him as an egg or as a. As a bird? We got him as like a. I was like a two day old chick or whatever. Oh, wow.

[Matt McCormick]

Freshly out of the egg.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. And then they shipped it to like the UPS place and then you had to go pick them up there. Gotcha. He's.

[Matt McCormick]

So you got him through the mail?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Nice. I've done that before with chickens.

[Randall Williams]

When he came in, his. His snood was erect.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah. He seems chill now.

[Randall Williams]

And he's now just dangling. So he's. He's comfortable with us at this point.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, I would say so.

[Randall Williams]

Cory, you want to try to get this guy to gobble here for us? This is just to add some sort of seasonal festivity to the show here.

[Connor Smith]

I could try a little something. Might be a little out of season, but.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, he's puffing. Keep going, keep going.

[Connor Smith]

Seth, you got a better one?

[Randall Williams]

Oh, that's fantastic.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, he's going to distrust.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, man, that's a big bird. Our audience didn't get the privilege of watching this thing jump up on the table and take a dominant posture over me earlier. So if you're picking up on some weird body language right now for me, me and Brogan here, it's because we almost came to blows just a few moments ago. Now, does he have any sort of misgivings about the upcoming holiday? Does he know that traditionally Thursday of this week, all of his fellow countrymen will be served on tables around the country? Not really. He doesn't. If you eat turkey around him, he doesn't pick up on that. No, he doesn't realize it. Huh. Must be easy life for him.

[Matt McCormick]

Does he have any brothers, sisters, friends?

[Randall Williams]

He's got two different hens. Family. Yeah. Nicely done. Why don't you hit him with another gobble here? Come on, go for it. Look at his. He's getting mad.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, that's fantastic.

[Randall Williams]

That's wonderful. Well, Connor, thank you for bringing this turkey into the podcast studio here. Phil, I think, is eager to get this bird out of his place of work.

[Phil]

Well, Corinne was out of the room when I said this, but if anything, if he did decide he decided he needed to relieve himself, I would not be cleaning it up. Corrine would. And you know what? I think she'd be fine. With that and probably happy.

[Matt McCormick]

I think it would be worth it.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. There's a nice roll of. Of cellophane down on that seat just in case there are any sort of ventings in the back end of that thing. All right, well, thank you again for bringing in Brogan, and have a happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, you too. Thanks for having me.

[Matt McCormick]

Thanks, Connor. Later, Brogan. Good luck.

[Randall Williams]

The Black Friday rush.

[Connor Smith]

Happy turkey day.

[Randall Williams]

Thank you, guys. All righty, gang. Now we're going to talk about different ways that we like to cook. Brogan's cousins. This is our next segment. Oh, Jesus. Get that bird out of here.

[Matt McCormick]

See you guys.

[Randall Williams]

I just need to calm down a bit here.

[Matt McCormick]

Randall's shaking.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, your snood looked a little erect.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. We're gonna do a. We're gonna talk about some Thanksgiving foods that we like to cook and we like to, more importantly, eat. And we're going to do sort of a hybrid segment here of meat eater menu. And top three we're going to select. It's going to be a competitive top three. So Seth, Corey, and myself will each draft our top three Thanksgiving foods. Once a dish is picked, it's off the table, and we're going to do it snake draft style. So we'll begin with Seth, Come to me. Go back to Seth, Come back to me. And at the end, Phil will pick a winner. Which one of us has selected sort of the best medley of foods. And I think as you judge this contest, you should take into account how they work together. If you're going to assemble a plate.

[Phil]

Of leftovers, you don't have to tell me, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

All right, so are we clear on the assignment, boys?

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, I'm just going to try to think of stuff that Phil will like.

[Randall Williams]

No, don't do that. That spoils it.

[Matt McCormick]

All right, I won't.

[Randall Williams]

But Phil's a solid American. I'm sure that his taste buds are very traditional. I don't think we need. Yeah.

[Phil]

This is an interesting strategy because Seth has no idea what my preferences are. So I'm excited to see how this turns out, to be honest. Stick with it.

[Matt McCormick]

I'll just go with what I like then.

[Randall Williams]

All right, Seth. Well, you're going first. So what's your number one pick here?

[Matt McCormick]

My number one favorite thing on Thanksgiving is stuffing.

[Randall Williams]

Stuffing.

[Matt McCormick]

Yep.

[Randall Williams]

Excellent choice. Excellent choice. Any particular type of stuffing? Do you do like a little sausage in there? Do you like some oyster stuffing?

[Matt McCormick]

No. No meat. Just. Just bread and seasoning.

[Randall Williams]

Moist.

[Matt McCormick]

Moist bread and seasoning. Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

That's a competitive choice.

[Matt McCormick]

Stuff it In a bird.

[Randall Williams]

Cory, you got number two here.

[Connor Smith]

Candied yams, candy yams.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, my goodness. All right.

[Connor Smith]

Going straight for the throne on that one.

[Randall Williams]

Well, I've got two picks in a row here because we're doing this. A snake draft. So I'm gonna go with gravy. Oh, just heavy brown gravy.

[Connor Smith]

Oh, brown gravy.

[Randall Williams]

And I'm gonna.

[Matt McCormick]

Man, can we get. Can we throw in desserts?

[Randall Williams]

I'm gonna go Turkey. Yeah, absolutely.

[Phil]

100%.

[Randall Williams]

I'm gonna go gravy and turkey. I feel a little white bread now. I feel like I only have one pick left, so I'm gonna have a really boring collection. But I didn't think turkey could slip to below the fourth pick. And gravy is an obvious number three choice. So back to you, Corey.

[Connor Smith]

Now. Excuse me. Gravy out of the packet or are you making.

[Randall Williams]

No, making gravy out of drippings. Yeah, that's.

[Connor Smith]

That's what I had down. So pumpkin pie.

[Phil]

Pumpkin pie, candied yams, and pumpkin pie. Interesting strategy.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, he's going with a lot of, I guess, yam gourds. Gourd. Gourd. Maybe things that grow out of the ground.

[Phil]

Gourd dishes.

[Randall Williams]

Or in a can. Or in a can. Seth. Green bean. You got two in a row.

[Matt McCormick]

Green bean casserole.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, that's good.

[Connor Smith]

Out of a can.

[Matt McCormick]

And last pick for Seth. One thing that my mom makes, which I don't. Probably not a lot of people do this on Thanksgiving, is baked corn.

[Randall Williams]

Baked corn.

[Matt McCormick]

Yum.

[Randall Williams]

Just like the Pilgrims did.

[Matt McCormick]

Fantastic dish.

[Randall Williams]

I wrote down baked Pilgrims. Baked corn. I should focus on one job at a time.

[Matt McCormick]

I quit the baked Pilgrims a long time ago.

[Randall Williams]

Corey, it's your final decision here. Last pick.

[Connor Smith]

Sometimes people just skip straight for the leftover hot turkey sandwiches. Day of, like, you know, you have your dinner at noon. You can still do hot turkey sandwiches by 4 or 5pm so that's my third pick.

[Phil]

I don't know if we can accept.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I don't think it's.

[Phil]

I mean, Randall already claimed turkey and gravy. The turkey sandwich is an amalgamation of several different dishes.

[Randall Williams]

Otherwise, my first pick would have been Thanksgiving leftover hash the day after with poached eggs on top.

[Seth Morris]

Oh, well.

[Randall Williams]

But I'm not doing that because that's a medley of Thanksgiving dishes. So pick another, please.

[Connor Smith]

Cranberry sauce.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, God. That's what I thought that was going to slip through the cracks. Out of the can sauce. All right.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, yeah. The best kind is when you. You just Pop the can open, and.

[Randall Williams]

You gotta take it.

[Matt McCormick]

You gotta punch a hole in the bottom so it comes out, and it's the shape of the can.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, love that stuff.

[Randall Williams]

Got it.

[Phil]

This could make or break you, Randall. No pressure or anything.

[Randall Williams]

I really screwed up this draft.

[Phil]

I mean, you guys are missing a pretty big one here.

[Randall Williams]

I would say mashed taters.

[Matt McCormick]

That's.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, but see, now I have turkey gravy and mashed taters, which I feel like is not a bad. It's just not very interesting.

[Matt McCormick]

No, those are, like, the boring things.

[Phil]

Not interesting at all.

[Matt McCormick]

The boring things.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I feel like. I feel like if you're. If your school cafeteria was going to do Thanksgiving dinner, they'd serve what I just picked. So I've got turkey, gravy and mashed taters. Corey has cranberry sauce, pumpkin pie, and candied yams.

[Connor Smith]

I must have a sweet tooth.

[Randall Williams]

Seth has stuffing, green bean casserole, and baked corn. Phil, do you need a minute to select your winner? You know what?

[Matt McCormick]

I had this.

[Phil]

This was settled a couple minutes ago, to be honest. I'm going to. Corey, I'm going to start with you. You've got the broadest selection. I mean. I mean, that's not the right term at all. Yours is the most unique lineup, I would say. Unfortunately, it's going to end you up in last place there. I mean, if I'm sitting down for a meal, taking all these things together into account, I think I'm just walking away with diabetes.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, you guys, you know, you.

[Phil]

Probably am already, but that's okay.

[Randall Williams]

You got cranberry sauce, which doesn't go with your other two picks. It sure could, Phil.

[Phil]

I'm ruling on that. Cranberry sauce on my pumpkin pie. No, I haven't tried, so.

[Randall Williams]

So what you're saying is it's down to me and Seth.

[Phil]

It's down to you. It's Seth.

[Randall Williams]

Turkey gravy, taters or stuffing? Green bean casserole and baked corn.

[Phil]

And we've got Randall with the classic lineup. But here's the thing. Seth has my number one pick, which would be green bean Castro.

[Matt McCormick]

I knew that would hit Phil hard.

[Randall Williams]

So.

[Phil]

The rub here is I think most stuffing is whack. Oh, and Randall, you've got a. You've got a boring white bread lineup, as you put it. But it's a classic for a reason. Dr. Randall Williams is the winner.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, happy Thanksgiving to me.

[Matt McCormick]

Phil.

[Randall Williams]

We actually, this reminds me when I used to deer hunt in Kentucky would go down. My buddy and I Would go down every weekend leading up to Thanksgiving to hunt the same farm. And every weekend, we'd go buy a rotisserie chicken, Would buy a box of instant mashed potatoes, Would buy a box of stovetop stuffing, and would buy a thing of the jelly cranberries.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, yeah.

[Randall Williams]

And we'd just do Thanksgiving and then Thanksgiving leftovers every weekend leading up to Thanksgiving with the only substitution of the rotisserie chicken. Highly recommend.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, that sounds fantastic.

[Randall Williams]

After you get off the tree stand, you know, cold morning sit, you have a nice, hearty Thanksgiving meal, and you can fall asleep for an hour or two.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, you gotta watch that tryptophan. Is that what it is in turkey? Yeah, that's when you go sleepy.

[Randall Williams]

That's what they say on the Internet. All right, well, now that that's settled, we're going to hit some audience submissions of meat eater menu items that we think are appropriately festive. So, Phil, why don't you bring up our first selection here. This is actually not festive at all, but it is turkey.

[Matt McCormick]

Very non traditional.

[Randall Williams]

This is orange turkey. Like orange chicken breaded with cornstarch, deep fried in peanut oil. This is from Cole Barclay. He used fresh navel oranges, marmalade, tamari, and honey for the sauce. It's served over Korean sweet potato noodles. And actually, the Korean sweet potato noodles just did it for me.

[Phil]

I think that looks terrific.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, it looks terrific. You can't argue with orange chicken, but love it. That kicked it up a notch. Next, we have another turkey recipe. This is wild game Perlo. Is that the correct pronunciation?

[Phil]

I believe so.

[Randall Williams]

This is two cups of Andy's White house farm's Charleston gold rice. Ooh, that's a mouthful. Some homemade wild game stock from the freezer. Added four or five duck breast filets. Probably a dozen or so duck gizzards and hearts. A couple turkey gizzards and hearts. Some spicy venison sausage frozen and ground to combine. It all browned all that meat in the Dutch oven, set it aside, and then added pepper, onion, cayenne pepper, and mushrooms. This is lovely, tasty, playful little dish. Corinne suggested that you could stuff a turkey with this, which I imagine you could do.

[Connor Smith]

That sure could make a great side dish. Dirty rice.

[Phil]

It looks like many things you could stuff a turkey with.

[Randall Williams]

And if you don't like turkey, try grouse. Phil, hit us with that next one. Hello. This is a grouse that. Who's this? Reed and Bree Shallow grouse from reed and brie. Shallow shot it in Colorado, Followed a recipe in the Meat Eater Wild Game Cookbook that turned out amazing. I would also suggest if you're still planning your Thanksgiving dinner, take a look at the Wild Game Cookbook because there's a lot of tasty recipes in there. And we also have the pleasure there of seeing Boots the cat hovering at about 11 o'clock.

[Matt McCormick]

I didn't see the cat in the background.

[Randall Williams]

Apparently Boots also got a bite. So shout out, Boots. And finally we have just a very dramatic presentation. This is a black bear with a bow from Asheville, North Carolina. This is from Dan Chase. He found a recipe for something called Thor's hammer, which is a bear shank smoked like barbecue, served on mashed potatoes with smoked onions and gravy. From the drippings.

[Connor Smith]

That looks amazing.

[Matt McCormick]

This looks like it should be like a Halloween meal.

[Randall Williams]

I was going to say it's got.

[Matt McCormick]

Like bones on the table, Skull the.

[Phil]

Knife plunged into the top there.

[Randall Williams]

It does look like like you'd serve this at a Halloween party or prop at a haunted house.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah. Looks good though.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, that gravy looks like glue. It's going to stick to your ribs.

[Randall Williams]

That's what you're looking for. Well, I think that does it for our meat eater menu.

[Phil]

Hey there gang.

[Randall Williams]

Dog food.

[Phil]

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[Randall Williams]

Black.

[Phil]

Check out Black Gold Explorer in the dog food aisle at Tractor Supply Company or visit blackgoldpet.com forward/unleash hyphen adventure. That's forward slash unleash hyphen adventure.

[Corey Calkins]

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[Randall Williams]

Joining us on the line from Centerville, Maryland, this is Steve Klein, president of the Eastern Shore Land Conservancy. Steve, how are you doing?

[Seth Morris]

How you doing, Randall?

[Randall Williams]

Oh, I'm wonderful.

[Seth Morris]

I'm getting hungry.

[Randall Williams]

You should be hungry for some birthday cake as I understand it.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, it is my birthday, guys. That's right.

[Randall Williams]

Happy birthday. So Steve, Steve's coming to us from Centerville, Maryland. He also said that we could introduce him as coming from second place in the AFC north after an exciting Monday Night Football game. I was watching that last night, biting my fingernails, wondering what Steve Klein would get today. Would we get a Ravens win or a Lamar choke job? Steve. So I'm glad that they pulled out the dub.

[Seth Morris]

We're not doing that anymore.

[Randall Williams]

Steve, could you tell us for our listeners who aren't familiar, what is the quote Eastern Shore and what are some of the challenges facing fish and wildlife in your area?

[Seth Morris]

So the Eastern Shore is of Maryland, is the part of Maryland you probably didn't know existed. It's the rural part. The central part of Maryland is kind of Baltimore, Washington. It's the 95 corridor. Eastern Shore just means the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake Bay essentially. And it's a pretty magical place. It is very close to a lot of urban centers, but it is still very rural, still very agricultural. In Nature, a lot of open space and a place worth protecting. And that's what we're doing at eslc.

[Randall Williams]

So can you tell us a little bit about your organization and how you preserve some of that habitat and those working lands that you're talking about? And can you clarify for our audience there's a term that gets thrown around quite often, a conservation easement. What exactly is that and how does the ESLC use that to achieve your desired outcomes there?

[Seth Morris]

Sure. I think our organization is the largest private regional land trust in Maryland. We serve a six county region. For anybody familiar with the area, it's Cecil county up in the north down to Dorchester county, which is where Steve and Cal did a little sick of deer hunting a few years ago for the show. And we have protected north of 60,000 acres in that six county region. And the way we do that is through those conservation easements that you mentioned, Randall. And you know what that basically is. It's not more complicated really than sitting down with a willing landowner who wants to protect their place. And really, what does that mean is keep it the way it looks more or less today, forever. And we will negotiate over the terms of that conservation easement. Generally speaking, there is room to, you know, leave space for a future generation's house, maybe grandkids, you'd love to imagine they want to grow up on the farm and you can build a house for them. But the bulk of that property is going to be held in perpetuity by a conservation easement held with the slc, or Eastern Shore Land Conservancy. And we are fully accredited by the Land Trust Alliance. And what that means is that our staff is on the ground every year on every single easement to make sure that the terms of that easement, the legal binding language of that easement is being met. So if you're not supposed to be building in a certain area and we come in and we find out you have been building there, we've got to get the easement back into compliance. That usually is not a problem. Our landowners are kind of conservation first. They care a lot about their places and they did this, you know, voluntarily. But then we do have to work with the landowners when the easements do come out of compliance. And usually that's kind of a partnership arrangement. Right? We don't want to have to, you know, wave our finger at anybody or wag our finger at anybody. We prefer to work with folks to get them back into compliance. But we have 330 easements across those six counties I mentioned. We just closed on our 330th last week. So we've got somebody, as I said, on those, every one of those, every year. And what's been a game changer for us is drones.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, wow.

[Seth Morris]

So, you know, we can use drones to monitor properties. Twenty years ago, not even that long ago, 10 years ago, it would have required, you know, our staff being out, quite literally, boots on the ground across the whole property. And we've got some easements that are five, six, seven hundred, a thousand or more acres. So that would take, you know, as you can imagine, a long time to cover. What the drone does is your folks can appreciate this, gives us kind of that bird's eye view of the property and helps us see impacts, frankly, that probably would have gotten missed just with my boots on the ground.

[Randall Williams]

And so essentially what the easement is doing then is ensuring that a reservoir of wildlife habitat stays in those places, especially as I imagine in close proximity to an urban area, there's fewer and fewer areas like that where you have an open working landscape.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah. I would say in other parts of Maryland, the kind that come to mind when you think of Maryland. I'll use Howard county as an example, kind of an exurban county along the 95 corridor, that within the memories of people that are about our age, they can remember being pretty rural. And what we found is that if it's not protected, then it's going to be developed. That kind of becomes the bargain. Maybe not today. Right. But 50 or 100 years from now, you can imagine this land is going to be accounted for in some way. But think of conservation easements, kind of like a deed restriction or a legal document as part of your real estate holdings. Right. It travels with the deed across future owners of the property. And we have a number of things that we can write easements for. So we have written easements for agricultural productivity. We want to keep farmland farming. We have written it for our local endangered species. The Delmarva fox squirrel, which has been successfully protected, is no longer endangered. We've got easements for scenic value. It's really up to what that landowner wants to protect. Right. That's what we're. That's what we want to protect as well. And also, when you're working in the Chesapeake Bay, water quality is going to be a huge piece. So those buffer areas between agriculture and the water and between development of the water, we want to protect those as well. Water quality is the name of the game in the Chesapeake Bay, as you guys know.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Now, Steve, you mentioned you just closed your 330th easement. Can you tell us a little bit about that one and sort of the backstory there so folks can get an idea of what this actually looks like?

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, I mean, this is a property that's been in the same family for, you know, more or less, I think, 100 years. And they really want to protect their grandfather's vision for this place. And, you know, that's what makes this work really so spectacular. I worked on Capitol Hill in my previous life. That's the Capitol behind me over my fireplace. And that was one kind of work. And then you come over here and you're meeting with landowners who get sometimes very emotional about their farms and their forests and their fields and the idea that they're protecting a place where, you know, their grandfather bought or their great grandfather bought, and they've inherited it over the years, and they're now protecting it for their kids and their grandkids. And, you know, frankly, people, family, they're not ever going to meet. And it'll be something that they would be able to recognize forever. It's pretty special. We have got an ease property here at Eastern Shore Land Conservancy that has been in the same family for, I think, 13 or 14 generations. The property has never been on real estate market. It was a grant from the king of England, and it remains in that same family's hands. I mean, really, that is kind of. Obviously, fish, wildlife are the reason why I do this work, hunting and fishing, but it's the human element of what does it mean to protect these places? Because there's tremendous pressure on this landscape, and there's a lot of money to be made on this landscape. Generally, it implies some kind of development, some kind of conversion of use. And to have people say, you know, I don't want to take that course, I don't want to take that road is really, really special. It's a treat to work with these folks.

[Randall Williams]

Well, that is meaningful work, Steve, and I'm glad that we could share a little bit about what you're doing with our audience here. It is delightful to see you, sir. I wish you all the best and have a very happy Thanksgiving.

[Seth Morris]

You guys, too. Thanks for having me on.

[Randall Williams]

Okay, we'll see you, Steve.

[Matt McCormick]

Thanks, Steve. We'll see you. Happy birthday.

[Randall Williams]

All righty. Now we've got a migration report from Matt McCormick.

[Steve Klein]

Hey, guys, I'm Matt McCormick with Flying V. And welcome to the Meat eater migration report for November 26, 2024. As we near the heart of migration Season. The snow line across Canada continues creeping southward. Heavy snow cover blankets much of the north with moderate accumulation moving through the central provinces. The southernmost edge of that snow line right here is passing through the prairies and along the US border. Although that southern line is kind of patchy right now, like here in Montana, the forecast suggests that that won't stay that way for long. A powerful arctic front is expected to sweep through all the north country in the coming days, bringing widespread snow and freezing temperatures that will accelerate the migration southward. This incoming weather system is likely to reinforce all that ice buildup along the northern lakes and rivers, closing the remaining sources of water for all the birds in those central provinces. Areas are currently holding snow free ground and open water, particularly in southern Alberta and Saskatchewan. They will see rapid changes as temperatures plummet and snow begins to blow blanket the region. This shift will further compress all those staging grounds and push that all the birds further down south into all those southern portions of the flyway. Listen guys, for every waterfowl hunter across the country, the timing could not be better. The combination of fresh snow and hard freezes up in the north country is a recipe for strong migration days ahead. With birds likely with how heavy that frost and freeze is to push faster and further in search of open water and food sources. We saw today hundreds of birds pouring out of Alberta into the U.S. with no passport required. Man, these guys are coming. Keep an eye on the weather and be ready. That next wave of birds is headed here soon. These are the weather fronts we all dream about in the off season. So it's time to pack your gear, call in sick to work and hit the field. That's it for this week's migration report. Good luck out there. Be safe and happy Thanksgiving. Back to you guys.

[Matt McCormick]

Man, Matt should have been a weather man.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, I know.

[Matt McCormick]

Fantastic.

[Randall Williams]

I know we've got to invest. Phil, I know you're top of the line here for. For tech upgrades, but I think we could do wonders with a little.

[Phil]

Some. Some green screen.

[Randall Williams]

Green screen.

[Phil]

Some key action.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah.

[Connor Smith]

It kind of reminded me of John Madden a little bit. He have been up there a little more drawn and.

[Randall Williams]

Right.

[Matt McCormick]

We need some like Doppler radar and stuff.

[Randall Williams]

Totally.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh yeah, it'd be great.

[Randall Williams]

Totally. Well, our next segment is Tattoos I regret. Oh yeah.

[Phil]

Hello darkness, my old friend. I've looked at my tattoo again. It really seemed like such a good idea when I was drunk last summer in Ibiza. The tattoo says a puss in the pot will always find more beans. What the does that mean?

[Randall Williams]

It's a tattoo.

[Phil]

I regret.

[Randall Williams]

Oh.

[Phil]

Oh. It's two weeks in a row on that one.

[Randall Williams]

That's so good.

[Phil]

And I think we need to take a tattoo break so people don't get sick of it. Because when people get sick of these, I'm gonna have to do more, which, you know.

[Randall Williams]

Well, that's.

[Phil]

I guess that's not a bad.

[Randall Williams]

No, no. Actually, I first heard that particular jingle. What would you call it? Your.

[Phil]

Your drop.

[Randall Williams]

Your drop.

[Phil]

Sure.

[Randall Williams]

I was driving down the Paradise Valley. It was dark, the road was empty, and I was just watching the lights, you know, go by. And, man, it really hit. It really hit.

[Phil]

I'm glad.

[Randall Williams]

Well, today's regrettable tattoo comes from Jason Desjardins. Is that again?

[Phil]

Desjardins.

[Randall Williams]

Desjardins. If you have a hunting or fishing related tattoo that you regret, please email us at radio themeat eater.com I'll repeat that again because I screwed it up. Radio themeateater.com.

[Phil]

What would Radiator themeateater.com be like? Selling car parts. Car parts.

[Randall Williams]

We need to expand. Yeah. Get into a new.

[Matt McCormick]

Send us your hunting rig.

[Randall Williams]

Get into a new sphere. So this Jason writes in. I thought I would share the hunting tattoo I most regret, which is an interesting way to put it, because it seems that he has several hunting tattoos that he regrets. But this is the one he most regrets. Because she had done a great job on all of my others, I let her do my turkey. While the job she did was fine, the placement and lack of scene was not. I trusted her judgment and regret it. I should probably regret my gnome packing the unicorn tattoo more because it came from your T shirt. I even had the gnome hunting the unicorn in another tattoo before I got the pack out one. So that. That actually is a. An impressively detailed gnome packing out a unicorn tattoo.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, that looks sick.

[Randall Williams]

Got the first light load. I wish I knew the significance of.

[Phil]

The numbers he was referencing it correct.

[Randall Williams]

6143 on the little thing hang off his bow there. I don't quite understand what that is.

[Phil]

We can go back to the turkey.

[Randall Williams]

But here's the turkey he regrets.

[Matt McCormick]

Here's the thing about this turkey. Its tail fan appears to be a Jake tail fan. And it's got a full beard.

[Connor Smith]

It's got a big beard. Oh, and who's the guy in the bushes back behind about to shoot one right up the Texas heart?

[Matt McCormick]

No, he's gonna shoot one right behind him.

[Randall Williams]

Well, the geometry of it. Yeah, I was gonna say the geometry of it. Makes me think that hunter is shooting something on his bicep rather than the turkey. On. Or is that a leg? Oh, God, that's a leg. No, I've totally screwed this up, so.

[Connor Smith]

I think he's in some boots.

[Randall Williams]

No, I think it's a elbow.

[Phil]

I think it's an elbow.

[Randall Williams]

I wish I could see whatever it is at the end there. I'd be better able to tell whether it's an arm or a leg.

[Connor Smith]

You gotta wonder if he straightens his arm out, if it'll. If the point of aim changes.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil]

I know this show isn't live, but for those watching it live, sound out. You think it's an arm or a leg, let us know.

[Randall Williams]

Cause it does sort of look like an ankle at the bottom, but now I see that's he's probably wearing khakis. Yeah, it's a wrist.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

I thought this was an ankle bone.

[Phil]

Anyway.

[Randall Williams]

Anyway. Yeah, I mean, Seth, you've pointed out some sort of incongruity here with the turkey, biologically speaking.

[Phil]

See, that's. That's an inaccuracy I would not have picked up on just looking at the art. I think that's a fine tattoo.

[Randall Williams]

I know.

[Connor Smith]

The detail is impeccable.

[Phil]

Yes, I know.

[Randall Williams]

I wish.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, it is good artwork.

[Randall Williams]

I wish I could see around the corner just to get a sense of the full scene. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know that he should regret this one.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah. Take it to the grave.

[Randall Williams]

The hunter, though it is. The aim point is strange. It almost made me wonder whether that hunter was part of a different scene.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah. Maybe there was a scene under that turkey that he. Yeah, he really regretted that one. So he slapped the turkey on top.

[Connor Smith]

There's more ink down there.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, I will say, of all the tattoos we've seen thus far, that's probably the least regrettable. Other than honking for a bonkin, which I maintain is not regrettable in the least.

[Phil]

No.

[Randall Williams]

But, Jason, thanks for sharing your ink. And please, if you have a tattoo that you regret again, that's. Radio Themeat Ecom.

[Phil]

Did we want to. There's a third one here that I. Oh.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, silly me.

[Phil]

Yeah, give me a sec.

[Connor Smith]

Now, what part of the body is that again?

[Randall Williams]

That's the gnome.

[Phil]

You guys can talk about the gnome while this thing processes. I didn't have the third one ready. I didn't see it. Yeah, it's coming up.

[Randall Williams]

The gnome. I'm not sure that. If you showed me that. I don't know how that varies from the T shirt. I feel like it's a fairly realistic reproduction of that original artwork.

[Phil]

Another great looking tattoo, in my opinion. But here's the third one.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, this one's incredible.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah. So it's a. It's a buck.

[Matt McCormick]

I have no clue.

[Randall Williams]

It's a buck skull. And on the right antler, from the viewer's right, there is a gnome perched up between the G1 and G2. And then on the crown of the skull, there's a unicorn. And it seems that the gnome is about to ambush this unicorn with an arrow. And on the left antler, from the Viewer's perspective, the G1 and G2 look like sort of trees. They've grown into trees. And so it's a. It's a fantastical setting.

[Phil]

There's also some names on the signatures in there. Benjamin, the Long Hunters.

[Randall Williams]

It's missing a. It's missing a bullet hole.

[Matt McCormick]

No, that's. That's Kelsey's. The originals right there.

[Connor Smith]

That's not too far off, though.

[Randall Williams]

Well, I. I like this. There's a lot going on. There's a lot to look at. Phil, what. What are you getting out of this? You're an art man.

[Phil]

No, I. Actually, I was thinking I have a shirt that looks. That's like a tree growing out of the ground, but it looks like a hand. There's a bunch of, like, fungi and trees growing out of the. Out of the hand. It kind of reminds me of that. Who's this guy's name again?

[Randall Williams]

Jason. Jason Desjardins.

[Phil]

Desjardins. Your tattoos are great, man. I don't think these are regrettable at all. Yeah, fine.

[Randall Williams]

A. Okay by me. I like these. They don't take themselves too seriously. That's one thing that I really feel strongly about in the tattoo world.

[Phil]

Just like, honking for a bond.

[Matt McCormick]

When I look at the. I just see Matt McCormick giving a migration update on this one. See the birds up top?

[Phil]

Oh, yeah, we got a flying V up there.

[Randall Williams]

He'd be all over that now.

[Connor Smith]

They headed north or south?

[Randall Williams]

Well, the sun is up to you. Setting in the. All right.

[Phil]

Oh, hey. So. So Brady, our one minute fisherman.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, shit.

[Phil]

Oh, he's. He's here. He's in the call. All right, so we can bring him in.

[Randall Williams]

Our next segment is One Minute Fishing.

[Phil]

Oh, do I feel lucky?

[Randall Williams]

Well, do you, punk? Go ahead, make my cast Now. One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish. And if they're successful, we'll make a $500 donation to a conservation group this week. Our angler is Brady Bush, coming to us from Michigan. Brady was on trivia episode 600 when we recorded from the University of Michigan while we were on the tailgate tour. And Brady will be fishing for a donation to the University of Michigan's fishing team. Brady, you look chilly. Tell us a little bit about where you're standing and what you're fishing for today. Well, I am standing on a river.

[Phil]

On the bank of a river, and.

[Randall Williams]

It feels like it's 20 degrees out.

[Seth Morris]

So I'll be fishing for some bass.

[Randall Williams]

But it might be a tough bite. What are you now? What's your. What's your rig here today? Show you here.

[Phil]

Gonna be throwing a little jig.

[Randall Williams]

All right. Nice leggy. Yeah, looks good.

[Phil]

I'm guessing the water's pretty cold, so.

[Randall Williams]

They'Ll probably be right on bottom, but we'll see what we can do. Alrighty, sir. Well, your one minute will begin with your first cast, so whenever you're ready.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

I'm gonna let her rip. I'm gonna have my dad hold the video for me. Fantastic. We all good? Yes, sir.

[Phil]

Whenever you're ready.

[Randall Williams]

That. And we're off cast. It's very relaxed. Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

What a calm evening out.

[Randall Williams]

Well, I was speaking more about his. His body language and demeanor with that first cast. Casually hucked it out there.

[Matt McCormick]

It's like he's been there before.

[Randall Williams]

Yep. He knows that you can't. You can't force it.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, he's bringing it in.

[Randall Williams]

Good time of day.

[Matt McCormick]

Cast 2. Sun looks low in the sky.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, this is when the hogs come out to play.

[Randall Williams]

Right here. He's working it. We've got 28 seconds. 30 seconds. Sorry, this is counting upwards, which is unconventional.

[Connor Smith]

Same spot.

[Randall Williams]

Another cast. What's going on? 15 seconds left here. Come on. Come on, Brady. Don't let us down.

[Connor Smith]

Seven seconds.

[Randall Williams]

Five, four.

[Phil]

Music ended a little early.

[Randall Williams]

Two, one.

[Connor Smith]

Man, it's not easy, Brady.

[Randall Williams]

Time's up, buddy. Not happening.

[Phil]

You know what? You're not alone. We're in kind of a slump right now.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, we're in a slump right now. That's why we're. We went to you. We thought you'd be at the golf course pond and you could break our. You could break our slump here. I know. I wish I could go to the secret spot. I'll save that for Will. Yeah, well, you guys stay warm there and have a very. Have a very happy Thanksgiving. Say hi to the boys and we'll catch you next time, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. Go blue. Oh, somebody says I. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

We are good kid.

[Randall Williams]

Good kid.

[Matt McCormick]

Tough or fishing? This time of year is tough.

[Randall Williams]

Oh yeah. I know when we launched this segment, I don't think there was a lot of forethought put into seasonality.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah. So I think, I think things will pick back up when we can start drilling holes. Or we're gonna have to go south.

[Randall Williams]

We should go south. That's in the budget, right? Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Or find people.

[Randall Williams]

Right after we get that. Right after we get that green screen practical, we'll get a couple bus tickets.

[Phil]

Hey there gang.

[Randall Williams]

Dog food. It's expensive.

[Phil]

And do we know it works? I'm genuinely impressed with how formulas are designed for active hunting dogs like Snort. Black Gold Explorer. Dog food is working really well. Tons of energy, tons of stamina.

[Randall Williams]

Nice tidy poops.

[Phil]

Snort's a lab, so it's hard to tell sometimes, but I believe she loves the flavor. It's a game changer.

[Randall Williams]

Black.

[Phil]

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[Corey Calkins]

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[Randall Williams]

The moment you've all been waiting for. It's the Meat Eater Movie Club I've.

[Connor Smith]

Been on the edge of my seat.

[Phil]

There we are.

[Randall Williams]

This week we're reviewing the 1997 film the Edge, and I was trying to decide whether I should read this faster because a lot of people hate this and there are a lot of comments to that effect and then a lot of people love it. So I thought maybe I should try to do a better job of just articulating and pronouncing. Jeez. In any event, we're just going to do it live. The Edge, 1997 employs the cliche genre of a classic survival thriller to probe fundamental questions about civilization, knowledge and human nature. Through David Mamet's characteristically precise dialogue, the film explores how different forms of power intellectual, physical and financial operate when stripped of social context. The film follows billionaire Charles Morse, played by Anthony Hopkins, and fashion photographer Bob Green, played by Alec Baldwin, as they struggle to survive in the Alaskan wilderness after a plane crash. Their battle against the elements and a relentless Kodiak bear is complicated by a profound psychological tension, as Bob's apparent desire for Charles wealth and his wife, played by Ella McPherson, creates a dangerous undercurrent of mistrust. Charles embodies accumulated learning and wealth, while Bob represents a more instinctual physical presence. Their dynamic grows increasingly complex as the cruelties of the wilderness erode social hierarchy. Charles encyclopedic knowledge, initially presented as a trivial freak, to use his words, becomes the pair's salvation, challenging conventional assumptions about practical mastery versus theoretical expertise. In doing so, Mamet's script clearly subvert, excuse me, cleverly subverts expectations about masculine competence. The Kodiak bear in the Edge operates as both a flesh and blood antagonist and a metaphysical force embodying nature's indifference to humankind. More than just a predator, it represents what lies beyond society's boundaries, raw, amoral power that cannot be reasoned with or bought off. As Charles and Bob are stalked by this formidable beast and then, in turn lay a deadly trap for it, their own relationship mirrors the same predator prey dynamic, suggesting that the line between civilized man and savage beast is more permeable than we'd like to admit. The bear's unflinching pursuit of the men becomes a test of both moral and mortal survival, not just whether they can kill it, but whether they can do so without becoming similarly savage themselves. Here I'm referencing a line from the film where Anthony Hopkins screams, Kill thee. MFer. Early in the film, a curiously disfigured lodge owner claims that once a bear tastes human flesh, it desires nothing else. This claim foreshadows the metaphorical taste for blood that develops between Charles and Bob, suggesting how a single transgression of violence can then become habitual. Don't worry, I only have a page left. Perhaps most significantly, the film explores a question that has been central to Western intellectual life since the Enlightenment. What is the relationship between civilized man and state of nature? Charles fortune, rendered meaningless in the wild, previously insulated him from precisely these primal confrontations. Yet his intellectual curiosity, perhaps a luxury afforded by that wealth, provides tools for survival that mere physical prowess cannot match. The mounting tension between Charles and Bob reveals how quickly civilized behavior can erode. When social structures disappear, their struggle moves beyond mere survival to encompass questions of moral choices. Does civilization represent a genuine conquest of our baser instincts? Or is it merely a thin veneer covering them up? Here, I'm sure we're all thinking that there's a striking parallel between Mamet's screenplay And Joseph Conrad's 1899 novella The Heart of Darkness, which provides a rich interpretive framework for the Edge. Both works examine what happens when civilized men are forced to confront wilderness and their own savage potential. Like Marlow's journey upriver in the Belgian Congo, Charles and Bob's trek through Alaska strips away social pretense to reveal underlying truths about human nature. I'm going to skip last couple bits here, but I found it interesting.

[Phil]

Hold on.

[Randall Williams]

I can go on.

[Matt McCormick]

No, you should.

[Randall Williams]

Just as Kurtz goes native and reveals the savagery underlying European colonialism, Bob's veneer of sophistication cracks to reveal his own predatory intentions. Charles, like Marlow, maintains his civilized perspective while recognizing darker truths. His survival depends on acknowledging and confronting these truths rather than denying them. While both works depict civilized facades cracking under pressure, they arrive at different conclusions about whether such events reveal civilization's fundamental hollowness or test its genuine strength. The key distinction is that while Conrad suggests civilization itself is built on a foundation of savagery, the Edge allows for the possibility that there is something more to civilization than mere social pretense. The film's resolution and Charles final acts of mercy and sacrifice suggest that the true inextinguishable core of civilization is not the trappings of wealth and learning, but our capability for moral choice in the absence of those trappings. So that's the end.

[Connor Smith]

Well said. Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Phil]

I'm glad you took it home.

[Randall Williams]

Well, I appreciate your guys support. I was beginning to get a bit self conscious. I think I've taken this too far and we need to scale it back a little bit.

[Phil]

I disagree.

[Matt McCormick]

I don't think so.

[Randall Williams]

Now in preparation for this segment, other than composing that, I looked at a review from Roger Ebert who gave it three out of four stars and he actually hit on one of the points I wanted to discuss in this film. Saul, he, he writes better than I could. He says. Having successfully negotiated Almost its entire 118 minutes, the edge shoots itself in the foot. After the emotionally fraught final moments, just as we are savoring the implications of what has happened, the screen fades to black and we immediately get a big credit for quote, Bart the Bear. Now Bart is one hell of a bear. I loved him in the title role of the bear. But this credit in this place is a spectacularly bad idea. Did anybody else?

[Matt McCormick]

Oh yeah.

[Randall Williams]

There'S an emotional scene.

[Phil]

It's an incredibly poignant final line that fades to black, tears running down Hopkins face.

[Randall Williams]

It says thanks to Bart the Bear, this film. The original title for it was Bookworm.

[Phil]

He does love to read. Yeah, he spends the first third of the movie reading that book his secretary gave him.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, it's called Bookworm and it was written for the screen. The alternate titles were Wild Wilder the Wild, into the Wild Wilderness, Now Dead Hunt, Deadfall on the Precipice. Over the precipice. Edge, the Edge. On the edge the bear roared, the Bear in the Brain and Bloody Betrayal. I think the Edge is probably the best of those choices.

[Phil]

Yeah, that kind of. It suggests a precipice.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, so that's good. Harrison Ford and Dustin Hoffman both turned the role played by Hopkins down. Robert De Niro actually read for Hopkins part, but he was too concerned that having an animatronic bear wouldn't work with viewers and so he turned it down. For that reason he was reluctant to work with a. He thought it would just deflate the film. Alec Baldwin showed up for Shooting this with a full beard and he refused to shave it. They almost shut down production and brought in Bill Pullman. The belief among the cast was that Baldwin had recently gained some weight and he was self conscious about maybe some extra weight around.

[Phil]

I mean, that's absolutely true.

[Randall Williams]

His gobbler. And when he was told to shave the beard, according to Vanity Fair, he said, quote, m effing movie producer. I knew this was coming. The B. And these are obviously the full expletive, the BS Hollywood mentality telling me, m effort, no talent. M effing. How predictable to see that good old Hollywood integrity at work.

[Connor Smith]

Wow.

[Randall Williams]

So Baldwin acting as Baldwin does, huh? And then finally, my last bit of research that I'll share with you before we dive in. According to the trainer, bear trainer Lynn Seuss, she said that Hopkins, quote, acknowledged and respected Bart like a fellow actor. He would spend hours just looking at Bart and admiring him. He did so many of his own scenes with Bart.

[Phil]

Love it.

[Matt McCormick]

Interesting.

[Randall Williams]

Now, I also read that this was.

[Phil]

His second movie with Bart after Legend of the Falls.

[Randall Williams]

That was what I was going to ask you. Yeah, they were reunited. I went into this thing, oh, it's Baldwin and Mamet here. We're going to boot up Glengarry Glen Ross. But I didn't realize that there was also another year. Yeah. The real, more recent reunion was Legend of the Fall. Bart the Baron, Anthony Hopkins. Gentlemen, really, really quick.

[Phil]

Yeah, just right up top. I normally. I kind of hate the argument that a movie is bad because it is unrealistic. Like, when you sit down and watch a movie or play, you're already suspending disbelief. Is that like we're watching people pretend to be other people? Pretend to laugh and cry and say words that they're not actually thinking. But that being said, I think part of the assignment here is that a lot of the stuff in this movie is ludicrous, which I think we'll dive into.

[Randall Williams]

I felt the same way about Star Wars.

[Matt McCormick]

A lot of it's in the details.

[Phil]

Yes. Much like the Jake tail feather you just called out. Yeah, sure. That's not something I would have noticed.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, a lot of it's in the details.

[Phil]

Like, I feel like Steve always, you know, the Revenant. Steven, the Revenant's a big thing. But I feel like most of Steve's beef with the Revenant is that, like, oh, that doesn't look like North Dakota or whatever. Not that the movie is like, is up its own ass and doesn't work for a bunch of other reasons, but I Think this movie rocks.

[Randall Williams]

Spellbinding scenery.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, yeah, man.

[Phil]

Beautiful. Remember when movies used to be shot on location?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Phil]

Anyway, where was that shot?

[Randall Williams]

At the headquarters for the filming was Canmore, Alberta.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

And they filmed some of it in Banff and around Banff. Yeah. So we figured those Ewok village looking lodges specifically for the film.

[Matt McCormick]

Really?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

The one on stilts in the river bottom?

[Randall Williams]

Well, did. All of the buildings were just built out of, like, raw. I mean, the docks were outrageous. But I'm just getting ahead of myself here. Initial thoughts on the film. What was your reaction, Seth? I hadn't seen it before.

[Matt McCormick]

I hadn't seen it. No. I watched it for the first time last night. I just couldn't help but pick out all the details that were just so wrong in this film. It was. Overall, it was a cool film. Entertaining. Not my favorite, but lots of details from the beginning all the way to the end.

[Randall Williams]

Corey, you've seen this several times, but this was the first time not edited for television. So you got to enjoy the full mammoth screenplay. Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

And the, you know, coined curse words. There are maybe everybody's favorite part. Oh, yeah, let's get that mother effer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've seen it probably 10 times. Nine in a row on AMC. And then this was the first time getting to watch it unedited, raw on Amazon, which is great.

[Randall Williams]

A much richer experience. I sure, I'm sure.

[Connor Smith]

And it's been remastered, so. Yeah, the cinematography was gorgeous.

[Randall Williams]

What about. I mean, I'm sure we have plenty of things to pick at from an unrealistic perspective, but what for you guys? Was there anything that you thought was redeemable from an experienced outdoorsman's point of view?

[Matt McCormick]

Well, like, things that were.

[Randall Williams]

Things that worked for you and you didn't go, this is absurd. Oh, I thought there wasn't a lot.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, I thought they did a great job, honestly, keeping it. Keeping it pretty realistic. I mean, it's very hard. There's a lot of.

[Matt McCormick]

I mean, I go, I have a list of stuff that I was just jotting down when I was sure watching the movie.

[Randall Williams]

Sure. Well, we can. Why don't we go into what's unrealistic?

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, I can go. Yeah, I can talk about that. More than the realistic stuff, Lots of things were wrong with the plane. Like the whole. All the scenes in the plane. One of them being when they're just in the cockpit all talking to one another and the pilot, like, didn't have his headset on and no one else had Ear muffs. That's not how it works.

[Connor Smith]

They're not screaming.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, come on.

[Matt McCormick]

Those planes. It's so loud inside. Yeah, that doesn't work.

[Randall Williams]

Tough. A tough critic here.

[Phil]

He.

[Matt McCormick]

The. The guy who owns the lodge said he wasn't hunting. He would be out hunting, but he's not hunting because his rifle wasn't sighted in. They asked him why his rifle wasn't sighted in because he said he didn't have a bench rest.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah. And then Anthony Hopkins said, an ironing board makes a good bench rest.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Or anything.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Ironing board might be kind of flimsy.

[Matt McCormick]

They kept saying, it's a Kodiak bear.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

Big red flag.

[Matt McCormick]

They would. They would. Multiple times. They showed it snowing down low along the river, and they'd get up in the high country. It looked like it's summer.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. It was a very. I thought the vegetation also was strangely inconsistent. They'd just go from, like, conifers to aspens. And Sydney and I had a long conversation trying to figure out what season it was.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah. Same. Which. That plays into another point. One more thing, though. The. The squirrel that they trapped was a gray squirrel.

[Randall Williams]

It was a great basket trap.

[Matt McCormick]

How long did it take away from it? It kept me thinking, whatever happened to that squirrel?

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Connor Smith]

That was when the helicopter came over, right?

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

They were so close to a meal.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah. And then. Yeah. I stopped taking notes after this point. But the first, from the time that they wrecked the plane till their first meal was the flesh from the grizzly bear.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Which seemed like a lot of days. But I don't.

[Randall Williams]

I couldn't keep track.

[Matt McCormick]

I couldn't keep track because I think.

[Randall Williams]

There were only a few nights.

[Phil]

Yeah. I think it was only two or three nights before they kill the bear.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Unless there was some sort of time skipping that happened. But.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

And the only time they. They kind of stop for water is that waterfall they come across, like, up in the high country, and they kind of just like, wipe their face with it. They don't ever really drink.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Oh, I liked it. Didn't I believe Alec Baldwin told the other guy to stop drinking? Didn't he? Like the.

[Matt McCormick]

Oh, maybe I.

[Randall Williams]

Maybe he's like, drinking from the water. He's like, come on. Like, what are you guys doing?

[Phil]

I think. I think. I mean, Alec Baldwin, notorious asshole. I think he's great in this movie.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil]

It's such a hard part to pull off. I mean, it's like. Like the biggest asshole, but. But he does it like Very realistically and with just like. I mean, he just puts it all out there. Smarmy Lothario and the behind the scenes, you know, gossip plays into that a lot.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Connor Smith]

Those didn't look like blanks that he was loading into his lever action either, did it?

[Randall Williams]

No, no, no. It happened before. I mean, I thought probably one of my favorite parts of the film was the spike ball attack that they used on the bear. Like, of all the traps that they're gonna make for the bear, was that.

[Phil]

Just to piss it off or were they trying to kill it?

[Randall Williams]

I think they're trying to kill it. But what the problem is is those spike balls had only previously been deployed in Return of the Jedi by the Ewoks against the AT sts. I believe you're right. It is the chicken walkers. Yeah. So I was struck by the similarity between that little booby trap and Return of the Jedi. And then I was also struck by. He was like describing. And he showed that photo of how he wanted to kill the bear. And I was like, he's just gonna Braveheart the bear. Which Braveheart came out two years before this. And they like, one of the most, like, jaw dropping scenes in the film is when they raise all the sticks and all the charging horses get impaled on the sticks. And then they just used that same trick on old Bart, which, I mean, killed Bart instantly. It was cool. It was cool.

[Phil]

But I was like, you think there was like a missing, like a deleted scene where he and Alec Baldwin were saying, hey, you saw Braveheart, right?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I just thought. I just thought it was. Yeah. I mean, I mean, we talk about this as being the glory days of when there wasn't CGI and when we had original screenplays. And I was like, man, they should have just done something else to kill the bear that didn't look like Braveheart.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah, well, Bart did a hell of a job in that movie.

[Randall Williams]

Incredible.

[Phil]

Oh, yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Although I thought professional. If I had to pick bone with. With Bart's performance, I thought that frequently his facial expressions were hard to parse. There were sometimes, like when he was bouncing the log and it just looked like he was sort of like smiling, having fun.

[Connor Smith]

I'm sure he was in real life kind of playing with it.

[Phil]

Some of those shots, though, with his lips sticking out. Oh, yeah. That was terrifying.

[Connor Smith]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

No, I mean real bears in movies, it's just. What are we doing?

[Matt McCormick]

After they killed Bart, I was shocked in how fast they.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

Tanned his hide.

[Phil]

Can I say I was lukewarm on this movie. Until it cut to them wearing the hide. I was like, this movie rips. This makes no sense at all. And I'm here for it. I love it.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I love it.

[Phil]

That's when it came alive to me, and I was fully bought in.

[Randall Williams]

He. At some point, he. Yeah. Alec Baldwin adopts sort of an apron and cape.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

And then Anthony Hopkins wears a leather tunic like a Viking. And I also thought there were a couple times in the movie where, like, they both went through very obvious, like, shifts in how they were playing these characters. And it was just like, whoa. He got weird all of a sudden. And at the end of the film, I kept thinking that Anthony Hopkins was Sean Connery because he just sort of adopted this, like, Sean Connery Persona.

[Phil]

Yeah, I mean, it was, you know, it's a. It's a classic sort of unlikely pair. I mean, Anthony Hopkins is clearly, like, on the spectrum in some sort of way. And also, did they ever say what he does, or is he just a rich guy?

[Randall Williams]

No, the guy's like, I liked it at the beginning. Like, the grubby guy working at the float plane dock was just like. Or at the airplane hangar, he's like, you're Charles Morse, the billionaire.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Let's just establish our characters. To your point about him being sort of spectrum, for lack of a better term, I thought that Anthony Hopkins character was very similar to Hannibal Lecter.

[Connor Smith]

Yes, a little bit.

[Randall Williams]

They're both big readers. They retain everything they read. They have a photographic memory, and they're sort of eccentric geniuses that obviously have a difficult time connecting with people in a genuine way. I saw this and I thought, man, no wonder Hopkins got cast for this role.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Connor Smith]

You really feel bad for him towards the end, too. I mean, his new buddy that he's stuck in the woods with tries to kill him for his wife.

[Randall Williams]

I think I'm just sorry this is going on. I have two more reactions.

[Phil]

One, we have plenty of time.

[Randall Williams]

One, if you're cheating on your spouse, don't get the spouse a watch that says Happy Birthday. And then get your adulterer, or I guess, adultering partner a watch at the same time. And the same receipt has both of them. And the one says, for your birthday. The other one says, for all the.

[Matt McCormick]

Nights I spent together, thanks for all the nights.

[Randall Williams]

Just like. Just like, don't get a watch that says, I committed adultery with you. Wink. Nice.

[Phil]

Like you were talking about the performances being all over the place. You're right. But it kept me on my toes because I was wondering, like, okay, is Baldwin's character gonna just be an asshole throughout the whole movie and then. And. But you know, there's a point after they kill the bear and they're. They're wearing the hide and everything, Baldwin.

[Randall Williams]

Has his taste for blood.

[Phil]

Yeah, they're.

[Randall Williams]

They're.

[Phil]

They're buddies for life now. And then when he does find. Find that. That receipt, I mean, that. That scene is. Is completely over the top. But I love how they frame it in the foreground with Baldwin, like, slowly loading the rifle.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah, totally.

[Phil]

Sips a whiskey while Hopkins is reading the receipt and the camera looks up.

[Randall Williams]

And then the other thing, as far as how he's a billionaire, I got some sense of that by that sandwich he made at the beginning. He. He. She asked him. She's laying in bed, which, if I were him, I would be like, this is the most. That was, I thought, the most unrealistic part of the movie is this beautiful woman lays down in bed and pulls the blankets up to her chin and says, would you go get me a sandwich? But then he goes down and he's got a big ham to carve from, and he takes two, like, silver dollar sized pieces of ham and puts them side by side on the bread like they're fried eggs. And that's his sandwich. And I'm like, no wonder this guy has a billion dollars in the bank because he's too cheap to make an actual sandwich.

[Phil]

Good for him.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt McCormick]

I found that to be very odd, the sandwich request. But then I guess it made sense because they wanted to get him down in the kitchen so they could.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Surprise.

[Randall Williams]

But if I were him, he took it like, this is an everyday thing.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

He was just like, oh, your midnight sandwich. Of course, I'd be like, you're in.

[Matt McCormick]

Bed already and you probably brushed your teeth.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah, that was the 80s or I guess the late 90s. Nobody brushed their teeth back then. My memory serves. So would you recommend this movie to someone? Fellow outdoorsman? Could you recommend it to them without losing all of your credibility?

[Matt McCormick]

It would be low on the recommendation list for me.

[Connor Smith]

100% for me. But if you're even just the least bit paranoid, I wouldn't watch it.

[Randall Williams]

Phil, what do you got?

[Phil]

Big movie star performances in a movie shot on location. It's a relic of the past that I think we need to hold on to. I give it thumbs up. I recommend it.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, you guys texted me to ask if we were still doing Mediator Movie Club when I was about an hour and ten minutes into this thing. And I was so pumped at that point in time. It's rare. Is there a movie where I'm just like, I wonder how much of this is left? Or, I'm sorry, rare. Is there a movie where I don't ask myself, how much of this is left? I followed along. I thought it killed the time pretty quickly and it was enjoyable and I would recommend it. I'll watch it again.

[Matt McCormick]

I gotta say, when I was watching it, there wasn't a point in time where I'm, like, wanting to shut it off.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah.

[Connor Smith]

No dull moments.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, yeah.

[Randall Williams]

That's the highest compliment you can pay a film as a cinemaphile these days especially. Well, gang, I'm glad I took nine pages of notes on that. Apologize for the lengthy intro, but listeners out there, if you're in the chat, weigh in with your thoughts on the edge. And with that, I think that's all we have for today's show. So have a very, very happy Thanksgiving. Know that we are all thankful for you out there listening and watching and YouTube and enjoy your day with food and family and friends and loved ones.

[Matt McCormick]

Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving, folks.

[Randall Williams]

That's about as sentimental as I'll get. Meteor to Radio live. Signing off.

[Phil]

Look out for bird strikes.

[Randall Williams]

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