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Ryan Callahan
Smell us now, lady.
Giannis Patelis
Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia Meat Eater.
Spencer Newharth
Podcast.
Giannis Patelis
Welcome to Meat Eater radio live. It's 11am Mountain Time on December 19th and we're live from Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth, joined today by Ryan Callahan and Giannis Putellis. On today's show, we'll discuss the top three Christmas gifts we've ever received. Then we'll find out how much Cal and Giannis know about their fellow hunters and anglers with a game of meat pole. And finally, we'll do One Minute Fishing with a special guest, Yanni Cal, can I be the first to wish you a Merry Christmas? Has anyone done that to you yet?
Phil Taylor
Multiple people have, but I'll take it anyways.
Giannis Patelis
That's an old Chris Berman line. Do you know who Chris Berman is?
Ryan Callahan
The Berman?
Phil Taylor
Yes, yes, I do know who Chris Berman is. The fastest minute in football.
Giannis Patelis
Exactly. Proud of you for doing that he'll always like in the holiday season, he's the first to wish you happy Halloween. He's the last to wish you a happy New Year. I like, I like that gimmick that he has.
Phil Taylor
Oh, I do too. What I like about him too is that where everybody else in his career or what am I trying to say?
Giannis Patelis
Like, like sportscasters, sports journalists, that universe.
Phil Taylor
Net universe.
Giannis Patelis
Very sharp, I imagine.
Phil Taylor
Sharply dressed, extremely expensive looking suits. And that dude rolls in like, I'm like, ah, I can relate to him because I can probably go, I can afford that same suit he's wearing.
Giannis Patelis
Man, he looks like he smells like meat and alcohol at all times.
Phil Taylor
Yeah, you know that SNL skit, You know, where the boys would sit around talking about dubbers?
Giannis Patelis
Oh, yeah.
Phil Taylor
You know, he could roll right into that. I'm surprised they never tapped him actually to do that skit with them.
Giannis Patelis
Chris Berman, he's still around. Still does that.
Phil Taylor
Yeah. Crushing it.
Giannis Patelis
Cal, what do you do? What is that?
Ryan Callahan
Oh, what is that?
Corey Calkins
I have no idea what that is.
Giannis Patelis
Sounds like sleigh bells.
Ryan Callahan
It does sound like sleigh bells.
Phil Taylor
Is it?
Corey Calkins
Oh, my God, Santa, what is this?
Santa Claus
Hello, boys and girls. Have you been good or bad this year?
Giannis Patelis
We are going to find out. Ladies and gentlemen, in our studio, a special guest. Santa Claus.
Phil Taylor
Jesus.
Giannis Patelis
All the way from the North Pole.
Phil Taylor
You smell Santa with lots of gifts.
Santa Claus
Gifts for all the good little boys and girls.
Giannis Patelis
Santa's gonna talk into his microphone. He has two game bags that are very bloody.
Ryan Callahan
What do you got, a spring bear in there?
Phil Taylor
You have a lot of explaining to do being as the guy that rolls around with a bunch of reindeer. You have bloody game bags.
Santa Claus
These are. This is the blood of mule deer and white tailed deer. I wouldn't harm a reindeer. They're incredibly important to my operation.
Giannis Patelis
So Santa has two white game bags that have some old blood of meat kind of. And chunks of meat. Oh, yeah, I missed that. These have not got a proper washing yet, have they, Santa?
Ryan Callahan
No, no. Do they not have bleach at the North Pole? I find that hard to believe.
Santa Claus
Fall and then I roll right into this thing.
Giannis Patelis
This gig keeps me real busy, huh? So Santa has brought with him, it looks like, some gifts. As well as a few guests, we have Brody Henderson and Corey Calkins who just appeared in the studio. And I believe Santa is now going to pass out some gifts. And we don't know who they're from.
Santa Claus
Yes, that's right. The elves have been hard at work. This one is for Spencer, Newark.
Giannis Patelis
Okay, so this. This, I believe, is probably the biggest gift in your game bag. Is that correct?
Santa Claus
I believe so.
Phil Taylor
Okay, those are bottomless games, but is.
Giannis Patelis
It the heaviest bottomless game bag?
Phil Taylor
Is it the heaviest?
Ryan Callahan
Now, in Santa's experience, is it the size of the gift that matters?
Santa Claus
Oh, it's just what's inside. Cold, hard cash fits in a tiny little envelope.
Giannis Patelis
It's wrapped in Grinch paper, and then it. Oh, okay. Here, look at this, ladies and gentlemen. Oh. It has my name on it with a piece of paper that looks like it was written something about FedEx returns. And underneath that, it has Corinne's name.
Santa Claus
Which gives away the whole bit.
Ryan Callahan
This is a real whodunit.
Giannis Patelis
The whole bit. Okay.
Phil Taylor
Well, no, we don't know necessarily that was from Corinne. It maybe used to be for Corinne.
Ryan Callahan
Right.
Santa Claus
That would be an interesting twist.
Giannis Patelis
Did Santa bring a pocket knife or. Oh, I may not need. Maybe it's a pocket knife in there.
Santa Claus
I don't have pockets in this.
Ryan Callahan
I don't think you can be a meat eater employee and not carry a pocket knife.
Giannis Patelis
Wow.
Phil Taylor
Will you look at that?
Giannis Patelis
I have just opened my gift to reveal a couple of what would you'd call slides. Like the sandal slides, but instead, they are largemouth bass. Those are gonna make some great camp shoes there. This is beautiful Shoes. Maybe hot tub shoes they could be.
Phil Taylor
How thoughtful.
Giannis Patelis
What if me and Corinne didn't wear the same size shoes? Whoever gave this gift, then what?
Santa Claus
They. They bear an uncanny resemblance to that singing bass that you have outside of your office.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah, the Billy largemouth bass. I'll have you know I wear size 14 boots, so I don't know if these are going to fit me or not. They may have.
Ryan Callahan
God, I feel bad for your wife.
Giannis Patelis
They may have.
Ryan Callahan
Is this what Christmas morning is all the time? It's like. Well, it's not exactly.
Corey Calkins
What.
Giannis Patelis
These are beautiful. I love them.
Ryan Callahan
There you go.
Giannis Patelis
Thank you. I. I appreciate whoever gave me this. Now, here's what happened. I had to tell everyone who they needed to bring their gifts for, so I know who this came from. The other folks can guess, though, who gave me this gift. Does anyone know Santa? Not Corinne, Not Santa. Not Phil. Again, a couple largemouth bass slides. Corey Calkins. What's our pool of people to pick from everybody in this room?
Ryan Callahan
Randall Williams.
Giannis Patelis
Corey Calkins. Thank you, Corey.
Phil Taylor
Good job, Cory.
Giannis Patelis
This is a beautiful gift. I'll also have you know that when we talked about this segment, Cory said he was going to re gift this in our upcoming all company gift exchange. Is that still the plan. Nope. Those are yours now. Man, I sure hope they fit. If not, you can put them on your hands and, you know, have them as a backup paddle for sure. Oh, that's a good idea. There we go. Thank you, Cory. That. That is a perfect gift exchange gift.
Phil Taylor
I think Shelby will love to wear those.
Giannis Patelis
Yes. Yeah. Yes, she will. All right, Santa's got out his next gift.
Santa Claus
This next gift is for Ryan O. Cal Callahan.
Giannis Patelis
Wow. Is it a. Is it a picture frame?
Ryan Callahan
It's not a bathroom scale or something?
Giannis Patelis
Oh, no. That's always a great Christmas gift. Oh, is it a. It's a butcher. It's cutting board.
Ryan Callahan
Nice cutting board.
Giannis Patelis
Wow. Okay.
Phil Taylor
Awesome. That looks homemade.
Ryan Callahan
That looks great.
Santa Claus
It better be homemade, because There is a $25 limit on the cost of these gifts, per the terms of our agreement.
Corey Calkins
Thanks for that reminder. Santa.
Giannis Patelis
Santa.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, Cheddar worst from Matt's. That's good stuff.
Phil Taylor
That kind of gives away who the gifter was.
Giannis Patelis
Well, I don't think.
Ryan Callahan
I mean, people drive back and forth.
Giannis Patelis
I mean, it wasn't Phil. I guess I would. I would imagine this. Oh, okay.
Phil Taylor
But I know.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, is it made?
Corey Calkins
Don't put me into a bucket, Spencer.
Phil Taylor
I didn't notice that till now.
Giannis Patelis
I didn't know it was on the. On the brats that Cal received. It says, processed for Brody Henderson.
Ryan Callahan
I love it.
Giannis Patelis
Brody, we've solved the crime.
Phil Taylor
Is that. Is that your. Is that your boys? Mule deer?
Giannis Patelis
Nope, that's the elk I shot last year.
Phil Taylor
Yeah, cleaning out the old freezer.
Giannis Patelis
My body makes us cut boards.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, no way.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah.
Ryan Callahan
Sweet.
Phil Taylor
Who's that?
Santa Claus
Trace might have an upset tummy later. Tell him he's been eating some of the dried meat from this bag.
Ryan Callahan
That's what dogs do.
Santa Claus
This next.
Phil Taylor
Thanks, Santa.
Santa Claus
For you.
Giannis Patelis
Wow. Is that a candle? It's gotta be.
Phil Taylor
It feels like a small dish of some sort.
Giannis Patelis
That looks like a man wrapped it. Yes, a small dog bowl.
Phil Taylor
Something almost fell out of there. Oh, I like it. I like it. It's a little. It's a little kit of things that a man like myself might need.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, like what?
Phil Taylor
Dodger Bronner's unsanted. Excuse me? Unscented organic magic balm for hands, face and body. Duct tape, super glue. And a lighter.
Giannis Patelis
And a lighter that works.
Phil Taylor
And the lighter's got a little hint, I think maybe.
Giannis Patelis
What's the hint?
Ryan Callahan
Looks like it.
Phil Taylor
Can you see what's on it?
Giannis Patelis
Oh, it's a tiki drink.
Phil Taylor
So I'm gonna have to guess that my man Fresh Phil Put this together for me.
Corey Calkins
Well, Giannis, you would be incorrect.
Phil Taylor
They threw me off.
Giannis Patelis
What's your next guess?
Phil Taylor
Cal?
Ryan Callahan
Yep.
Phil Taylor
Merry Christmas. Thanks, buddy.
Ryan Callahan
You're welcome.
Giannis Patelis
Cal, are these things you found this morning in your junk drawer?
Phil Taylor
Took him out of his wilderness survival kit.
Ryan Callahan
No, it's all. It's all brand new. I had to take the. It looks new super glue out of the packaging, though, to make it all fit together. But, um, I. I'm not. I don't like gifts for the most part. But this. Is this a practical thing? You're not going to be like, oh, here's just extra stuff in the house?
Phil Taylor
Listen, my wife gets upset with me because I have a running list on my phone. You guys can. If you sneak into my phone, you might see. Your name might pop up. Because if during the course of the year, all of a sudden I'm like, oh, Santa really was interested in X, and I'll make a little note. And then when Christmas comes around, I give that gift and it's from the heart. It's not because I had to give a gift and it ends up being extra stuff in the house.
Giannis Patelis
Well, you've really hyped up. Whatever person is going to receive a gift from Yanni then this year.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, how is it? What's nice too, is like, if this.
Phil Taylor
I thought it through, makes it to.
Ryan Callahan
Giannis's desk and sits there for the rest of the year, it's still a valuable thing to have and you can get it back. If it makes it as far as the truck and just sits there forever.
Phil Taylor
Better.
Ryan Callahan
It's great.
Giannis Patelis
Let's. Let's just hope it doesn't wind up on the free table.
Phil Taylor
That would be rude.
Giannis Patelis
What else does Santa have in his bloody game? This.
Santa Claus
This gift has the initial CC on it, which I understand to mean Corey Culkins.
Giannis Patelis
Hot dog.
Santa Claus
Very hot in here. Frosty's mouth undressed for the North Pole.
Phil Taylor
Santa, when you were a little kid, did you also laugh? Yes, in that same.
Santa Claus
Yes. It was much more disturbing before I reached puberty.
Giannis Patelis
This is gonna be really. I thought you just came out of.
Phil Taylor
The womb looking like that.
Santa Claus
Well, I am an ancient being, I think. According to the lore.
Giannis Patelis
I've got a couple of really good looking books. I believe they're Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah, well, it looks like it's part of a series. I'm hoping there will be more because I can see myself reading through these pretty quickly.
Phil Taylor
Are you a big D and D guy?
Giannis Patelis
Negative. Ghost Rider.
Corey Calkins
So here's the thing, Corey.
Phil Taylor
Santa, you don't care to explain.
Corey Calkins
You're very modest about it, but I'm sure people know that you're a world class hunting guide, Corey. I mean, everyone says how much they love to go out with you, but one thing you might not know about is a different kind of game. Those are mythical beasts. So if you ever want to expand your clientele, kind of add new skills to your. To your set, you know, I thought these books might help you track these, you know, these animals.
Giannis Patelis
I have yet to buy these books.
Santa Claus
For my friend Corey. Or were they just on your shelf and you gifted them?
Giannis Patelis
They feel new.
Santa Claus
Out of convenience.
Giannis Patelis
They're crisp. I'm the first one to open them. Thank you, Phil.
Corey Calkins
You're welcome, Corey.
Giannis Patelis
Now, he was dressed as a wizard for Halloween, so I can understand why someone would give you a D and D book. Are there wizards in D and D?
Corey Calkins
Oh, yeah.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Corey Calkins
Big, big part of D and D.
Giannis Patelis
That was a perfect gift then for Corey. Yeah, my kid's really into dragons at this point.
Corey Calkins
Well, I'm trying to indoctrinate Marshall.
Giannis Patelis
So please, if you got yourself a.
Phil Taylor
Dragon, you could fly into some landlocked public.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, wow. Drop into some blm. That's how Santa kills all his.
Ryan Callahan
You never have to worry about having a Bic lighter on you.
Giannis Patelis
What else is Santa got?
Santa Claus
Gift is for Phil Taylor, the engineer. Phil the engineer, right.
Ryan Callahan
Also known by his Christian name.
Santa Claus
I have a very long list of names each winter, so it's important that I'm particular.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah, a lot of Phil Taylors out there. I'll also have our listeners know that Santa has been in this suit and doing this voice for the entire hour leading up to the show.
Ryan Callahan
What other voice would he do? Spencer.
Giannis Patelis
That's right, Phil. We can't see what you're opening, so you got to give.
Phil Taylor
I have it on the camera.
Corey Calkins
It's a Star wars puzzle. And look at this is great artwork.
Phil Taylor
Wow.
Santa Claus
Oh, my heavens. That's 2,000 pieces.
Corey Calkins
That's a. That's a big boy.
Phil Taylor
You've got.
Corey Calkins
You've got a lot of the films represented, including some of the prequels. Oh, this is fantastic. I have no idea who could have gotten this for. Because honestly, it could be any of you. I'm gonna say it was Spencer Newharth.
Giannis Patelis
It was not me.
Corey Calkins
Okay.
Giannis Patelis
But I like that you thought it was me.
Corey Calkins
Was it Santa Claus?
Santa Claus
Yes, indeed it was.
Corey Calkins
Oh, I got it from Santa himself. I'm so lucky.
Santa Claus
Yes. When I realized how incredibly expensive Lego toys are, I switched gears and bought you a puzzle.
Corey Calkins
Oh, that's why that was on your mind this morning when you came into my office, Santa.
Santa Claus
I thought I might have given by making casual chitchat.
Corey Calkins
Not at all. I was caught off guard. Thank you so much.
Phil Taylor
This is lovely.
Giannis Patelis
Is 2,000 pieces big?
Corey Calkins
That's pretty big. I'd say 1,000 is kind of the average for, you know, like. Like a. Like a weekend puzzle. 2000. I mean, that's. That'll keep me busy for a while.
Santa Claus
That'll babysit your kids for a week.
Giannis Patelis
That's much appreciate gift.
Santa Claus
Our next gift is for Brody Henderson.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, isn't this wonderful? Okay.
Phil Taylor
That's got some heft to it.
Ryan Callahan
Does Santa get a gift?
Giannis Patelis
Well, he's going deep into his endless game.
Phil Taylor
More you got in there?
Ryan Callahan
Oh.
Giannis Patelis
It'S cold.
Phil Taylor
Well, it came from the North Pole.
Giannis Patelis
Brody.
Phil Taylor
Oh, he's opening it.
Giannis Patelis
Very.
Phil Taylor
That fancy one.
Giannis Patelis
It's a gift. Wrapped in a gift.
Phil Taylor
Spectacles on.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, it looks like.
Ryan Callahan
I can help you read.
Giannis Patelis
Some duck.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, big, fatty ducks.
Giannis Patelis
Some fatty ducks. Big, fatty ducks. I'm gonna guess, based on someone's recent schedule, it might have been Giannis Patelis. Correct. What are these ducks? Tell us about the ducks.
Phil Taylor
Oh, yeah. You should open the. The plastic bag. That was just a way to transport them from my house to here. But they're extremely pretty. Prime been picked clean. They are ready for the cast iron Skill.
Giannis Patelis
Shot him with one pellet in the head. Yep.
Phil Taylor
Actually, I'm not that good of a shot, so I. The ones that were donated to me, I chose those to give to you with that were shot by better, better shooters. I'm pretty sure that they're all three mallets. I think there's. There's either two hens and a drake. Or two drakes and a hen.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah.
Phil Taylor
Excellent.
Giannis Patelis
Santa doesn't have any ducks in my freezer right now. Santa's bloody game bags, three mallard ducks and mule deer sauce.
Phil Taylor
I believe that that gift exceeds the monetary limit.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, wow.
Ryan Callahan
By a lot.
Phil Taylor
Right. If you could apply. Yeah, but priceless gifts, I think.
Giannis Patelis
Very good gift.
Phil Taylor
Thank you. All right. You're welcome.
Giannis Patelis
We have one gift left.
Santa Claus
This last gift is addressed to Randall, which is a name I've never seen before.
Corey Calkins
Oh, because he's on your naughty list, right?
Santa Claus
That's right. That's right. Phil Taylor. And I don't want to tear this bag, but I can't untie this string.
Phil Taylor
You might have better dexterity, Santa, if you take your gloves off.
Santa Claus
No, no, no.
Giannis Patelis
He's really committed to the big.
Ryan Callahan
Maybe Brody can help you.
Santa Claus
Now what do we have here? Oh, there's two items.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Santa Claus
Bag for Randall.
Giannis Patelis
You don't think Randall mine that you're opening his gift?
Santa Claus
I don't really like the guy. And we have opening gift one. It's a hams.
Giannis Patelis
Oh my goodness gracious. One of the rarest beers in the world.
Santa Claus
Oh my goodness gracious.
Giannis Patelis
A ham special light.
Santa Claus
Is this really for me?
Giannis Patelis
Yes, of course that's for you.
Santa Claus
You only have a very limited supply of these.
Giannis Patelis
Well, to get that one I had to open up my third to last case. I'm now in my last three cases. But you cherish that, Randall. I will. You open that on a special occasion. Maybe Christmas day.
Santa Claus
I can't feel it through my glass.
Giannis Patelis
It's not cold.
Phil Taylor
Oh, that's too bad. Because if it was, I would say in the Christmas spot. We could crack it open right now and everybody could taste what one of those tastes like.
Santa Claus
Oh my goodness. And a pack of basketball cards.
Giannis Patelis
Not just any pack of basketball cards. I went into my collection and I pulled out all of the worst cards, which are coaches. Anytime when you were a kid you'd get a pack of cards. You would frown if you saw a coach in there.
Santa Claus
A Don Nelson.
Giannis Patelis
Not just one. Not, not just one Don Nelson. There are many Don Nelson.
Santa Claus
Jim Boeheim.
Giannis Patelis
Of course Jim Boeheim is in there. And if you look, Santa, a Darvin Ham Nuggets card. Darvin Ham. I believe it's a Darvin Ham rookie Nuggets card. Oh, I have every coach for the Bucks in there going back to 19. No, for the Mavs. Every Mavs coach going back to 1997. Randall Claus, another Don Nelson. Another Don Nelson card. That's another Don Nelson. Don Nelson was a popular card in my collecting era.
Santa Claus
Oh, this is. What a thoughtful gift.
Phil Taylor
Now Santa, what will you do with those cards?
Santa Claus
Well, I'll try to keep them all on the table.
Giannis Patelis
Huh?
Santa Claus
My limited dexterity. I'll put them on my the shelf in my office and just point them out as sort of a curiosity to anyone that comes in your office at the North Pole.
Giannis Patelis
That's correct. Uh huh. He'll flip through them when he drinks his ham special light.
Santa Claus
And I'll just reflect on all the humorous short lived coaching stints that have characterized the modern NBA.
Giannis Patelis
Now, now, don't go driving your sleigh after you've tossed this ham's back.
Santa Claus
Oh, the reindeer do all the steering. But speaking of the North Pole, it's time I head back that way before I overheat in this suit. So can I leave Randall's gifts here?
Giannis Patelis
You could leave his gifts here. We'll. We'll get those to him. We'll make sure.
Santa Claus
I'll just go on my merry way then.
Giannis Patelis
Okay. Well, thank you, Santa and Brody and Corey. We hope everyone is as joyful as we were come Christmas morning.
Ryan Callahan
Darn right. Merry super Christmas. Thank you, Santa.
Santa Claus
Happy Radio Live.
Giannis Patelis
Thank you, Randall Claus got.
Santa Claus
Santa's got to take off the fence.
Giannis Patelis
Thank you, Santa. We will. We will catch up with Brody and Corey later, and we will get back to our regularly scheduled Radio Live events.
Ryan Callahan
I mean, considering how many podcasts there are in the world now that Santa's opened himself up to one. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's tough biz.
Giannis Patelis
Listen, we've been trying to get some big, famous guests on this podcast lately, and we just got the biggest of them all.
Phil Taylor
Hard to top, especially this time of year.
Giannis Patelis
That's right.
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Giannis Patelis
Me Eater Phil, let's let's take some break for some listener feedback. What's the chat have to say about Santa's?
Corey Calkins
I think the chat was just so caught up in all the festivities that we haven't gotten a lot of questions. Okay, please throw in some questions here, but we do have a question from Leland Hart. He asks, will anyone in the crew be scoring a javelina skull now that Boone and Crockett just announced they will accept them?
Giannis Patelis
I've never killed a javelina.
Ryan Callahan
I've never killed a javelina either and I would like to get one.
Phil Taylor
Yanni oh well, we're gonna have some javelina tags in Mexico in January, so Cal's gonna be able to kill his first one. I have killed one. I don't believe it was any sort of a special specimen. So I will not be scoring the skull. I don't know. I'm not a huge scorer. I score every now and then just so I know. Kind of like what when someone says sure it's X big I know what what I'm looking at. But yeah, I don't know. Hopefully B and C get something out of having Boone and Crockett javelina Measurements.
Giannis Patelis
And friend of the show Jim Heffelfinger. I think he was a big part of getting that across the finish line. That javelina would be a Boone and Crockett animal.
Ryan Callahan
You know what Giannis just said like it, it is very helpful to occasionally score something. It just it, it anchors your, your reference points right. And we scored a not very great looking bull rack, you know officially for non official scores where we were taking it serious and, and doing it the right way for once. And we were shocked. My buddy shot a bull the last day archery season.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Ryan Callahan
Was, was more happy about just getting a bowl the last day archery season than getting this particular bowl. Just skull capped the thing. It was sitting in his cabin when we showed up on the floor leaning up against a pile of sheds and we were like oh God, real long main beams but yeah, not all that big but oh boy, the mass is kind of nice. And then you're kind of like looking at it and we finally scored the thing and it, it was a legit just, just a shade under 360.
Giannis Patelis
What did you think he was going.
Ryan Callahan
To be like 330?
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Ryan Callahan
Right. Because you're just like nothing really stood out as that impressive. But the width measurement and the, and.
Phil Taylor
The, the mass will hide sometimes a lot of the other measurements.
Giannis Patelis
This makes it easier to communicate. I saw 140 inch buck today. I saw a 300 inch bull. What else you got?
Corey Calkins
Phil Brady, A question for Cal. Thoughts on pampering hunting dogs. Gramps always claimed it will ruin them.
Ryan Callahan
Boy Brady, I, I think the best thing that you can do is have a dog that sleeps outside. I mean really, really do. And my, my dog does not. She's firmly wedged into the bed often before I get there. But I, I think yeah, it just builds up their cold tolerance for sure. They get a much different coat if they're in like a you know an insulated dog house outside. I think that's one of the better things that you can do for them. But you know, outside of that I think the more time that you can spend with them which would be pampering in some folks eyes can really help that communication bond and a lot of the hunting aspects that you can run into.
Giannis Patelis
Cal goes for both ends of the spectrum. He lets snort sleep inside but also let snort get bit by rattlesnakes. So yeah, little yin and yang.
Ryan Callahan
No. No relationship comes without risk.
Giannis Patelis
Phil.
Corey Calkins
Yeah, we'll do one more. Has anyone here ever made a wild duck down pillow?
Giannis Patelis
No.
Corey Calkins
There is that something you would even recommend doing There is such a thing.
Ryan Callahan
I mean, I mean like the down that you get in your sleeping bags and stuff that is cooked in order to kill, you know, natural parasites or fumigated in some, some fashion, which is something that you could definitely do at home. I know my grandma did do this. So it, I mean it's absolutely doable.
Phil Taylor
Yeah. I've just heard that the cleaning process is just a real pain in the tush.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah. Because you're not looking for feathers in general, you're looking for the down feathers. So there's some, some separation there.
Giannis Patelis
So anything else, Phil?
Corey Calkins
Yeah, we'll hold off on some until the end of the show. But yeah, please keep, keep those questions coming in, Phil.
Giannis Patelis
I just want to make you see that later on in the show. Here we have one minute fishing. Did you talk to who were calling about that?
Corey Calkins
Yes, yes.
Giannis Patelis
Okay. Just making sure that we're on the same page. All right, moving on. Our next segment is Top threes.
Phil Taylor
Whoa. Nailed it.
Giannis Patelis
Wow. Phil is falsetto.
Phil Taylor
You know, Phil, we have a very. We have a invite. Not invite only, but our house isn't huge, but we have, we hold a party every winter. Spencer's been once. And I feel bad because I can't invite everybody because we just don't have enough room. And I like to invite people that would enjoy the things that we. The activities that we do at the party, which is basically ringing in the new year with some Latvian pagan like traditions. One of the things is singing. And so I got to thinking today because I was telling someone else about it, I was like, you know, Phil would be a great person to have at the party because then this. If you have somebody that can sing at that level, everybody feels a little more comfortable singing along.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah. You know, you could use a tenor there. There's a lot of basses and baritones.
Phil Taylor
Right.
Giannis Patelis
So Phil would bring some much needed.
Phil Taylor
Yeah, a lot of monotones, a lot of no tones.
Corey Calkins
Yes, I would love to. Yeah, anytime. Anytime. You'd have me.
Phil Taylor
Okay.
Corey Calkins
Sounds like a blast.
Phil Taylor
We'd invite you and your entire family. It's a, it's a kid friendly event.
Giannis Patelis
But we need to hear your wife's voice.
Phil Taylor
No, no.
Giannis Patelis
So there's, there's trial.
Phil Taylor
As long as she will just sing along.
Ryan Callahan
Your kids get to play with molten lead.
Phil Taylor
No, I think, unfortunately, I think we're squads really.
Ryan Callahan
It's the modern world caught up with that pagan ritual.
Giannis Patelis
Yanni. We display our lead that we think through each Christmas. We put it up.
Ryan Callahan
Oh yeah.
Phil Taylor
And I appre. I like to hear that. But yeah, last year I think there was a kind of enough griping that we've decided to squash the lead pouring.
Giannis Patelis
Well, glad I got to see it in its, in its heyday then.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
All right. This week we are ranking the three best Christmas gifts we've ever received. Cal, you go first. What is the third best Christmas gift you've ever gotten?
Ryan Callahan
I. I got a I. Okay.
Giannis Patelis
Third, Third best. I like, he's acting like I didn't email him two days ago and say, hey, this is a segment we're doing.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah, I just, I don't really like splitting them up. I got prime rib roast from my mom one time. Like that was pretty, pretty bitching.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Phil Taylor
Pretty like a big old 20 pound.
Ryan Callahan
Chunk of meat, like a four rib roast, you know? You know, I mean like that runs you like 90 some bucks at the grocery store, right? So I mean that's, that's a nice gift. And you know, having that big corn fed fat beef is a pretty serious treat when your diets are as lean as ours are. So.
Giannis Patelis
So when did you cook it up then? What occasion did you save it for?
Ryan Callahan
I think I ultimately cut it into steaks to kind of make it last longer.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Ryan Callahan
And then yeah, every, every once in a while would grill up big, big fat steak jalapenos.
Giannis Patelis
Third best Christmas gift you've ever received.
Phil Taylor
Man, I'm with Cal. It's hard to really rank these.
Giannis Patelis
Uh huh. Does that mean you're unprepared?
Phil Taylor
No, no, no, no.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Phil Taylor
I have a lot of good. I've received a lot. The more I thought about it, I'm like, man, there's been so many good ones. But it's also been over the course of 46 years. But a Christmas gift that I still receive annually, I hope to receive it again this year, is that my in laws usually roll in or send us home if we're spending the holidays in North Carolina with a cooler full of headed shrimp.
Ryan Callahan
Oh yeah.
Giannis Patelis
What do you do with them?
Phil Taylor
Eat them.
Giannis Patelis
Well, beyond that, like what kind of recipes, how do you cook them? When do you cook them? Is that like a thing you eat on Christmas?
Phil Taylor
I mean there's a lot. So we like to share with other, you know, folks that would enjoy eating some shrimp. But often we just do a, you know, a shrimp cocktail. We might, we fry a lot of shrimp. We might just do like a boil and toss them in some hot Cajun butter kind of a thing, you know, and do peel and eats. We keep it pretty simple. I don't get too fancy with the shrimp.
Giannis Patelis
You think they're bringing you some this year?
Phil Taylor
I don't know. I don't ask.
Giannis Patelis
No, this is a good Friday.
Phil Taylor
I'm crossing my fingers.
Giannis Patelis
Huh? This is a good way to encourage them. Tell them that your third best gift you've ever received. A shrimp.
Phil Taylor
Oh, yeah, no, they're very aware that we are very appreciative of. Of that freezer stuffer.
Giannis Patelis
All right. Third best gift I've ever received with some Cabela's waiters from my parents in high school. I was driving a Chevy Cavalier at the time, which is just a two door little car, Not a lot of room, so I could fit those in my trunk, and it unlocked A lot of fishing, a lot of hunting, and specifically bow fishing was my favorite thing at the time. So I could like, fit my bow fishing rig and my waders in the trunk, and that allowed me to kill hundreds of carp. Really satisfied me in high school. So those waders got a lot of mileage out of them. The best gift I ever received. I'm gonna do my second one too. It was.
Ryan Callahan
Do we get to ask Phil? Does Phil get a play?
Giannis Patelis
Oh, well, Phil was just doing some technical adjustments over here. You. You can play along. Oh, I will.
Corey Calkins
I did not do do the homework, Spencer. But maybe if you come back to.
Giannis Patelis
Me, I'll think, okay, we'll swing. We'll swing by him at the end here. Second best gift I ever received was my first trail cameras for my wife. She was my girlfriend at the time in college. And that was a Moultrie M100. I still remember what it was. It would have been like 2011 and. And that was when trail cameras started to get really good and really affordable. I don't know if you guys ever dabbled the trail cameras, like 20 years ago, but they were even more expensive than they are now, and they performed really poorly. And that was right about the time. That was like a tipping point around 2010, 2012, when trail cameras got really good and anybody could. Could walk into a Cabela's and buy one with some confidence. So that, that didn't make me a better deer hunter, but it made me a more excited deer hunter was getting that first trail camera. So I'd say that's the second best Christmas gift I've ever received. Cal, your second best Christmas gift.
Ryan Callahan
I would say I got my first semi auto shotgun, Winchester Super X2, which is still like a fantastic waterfowl semi auto shotgun, if you can find one. I recently saw that. That thing on Some lists of like, used shotguns to. To look out for. And it is, it's fantastic. Shotgun. I shot. Shot the heck out of that thing.
Giannis Patelis
What were you shooting before that?
Ryan Callahan
Winchester 1300.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Ryan Callahan
Which used to be able to get for like 150 bucks. And it would come with a case of shells and would, you know, would just shoot those things until they, they fell apart. There's something with the arms on the slide that at some point that metal would just weaken and snap off. Yeah, a couple of those.
Giannis Patelis
What age were you then when you got that semi auto?
Ryan Callahan
Probably 20.
Giannis Patelis
It's a good gift to begin a semi auto. Oh, it's a good time to begin a semi auto shotgun.
Ryan Callahan
Huge. Huge. Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
Yanni, second best Christmas gift you've ever received.
Phil Taylor
Also a firearm. Oh, my dad gave me a Remington 700 chambered, I believe it was the BDL, which has the detachable or not detachable, just has the hinged floor plate, but chambered in 30. 06.
Giannis Patelis
Okay. How old were you?
Phil Taylor
Probably 14, 15 ish. Because we couldn't hunt with a rifle in Michigan, but we could in Wisconsin. And so I think then like the next year I went and killed my first buck with. With that rifle in Wisconsin.
Giannis Patelis
I'm going to give my number one. It was also a Remington 700.
Phil Taylor
Hey.
Giannis Patelis
From my parents in high school. I think it had been like 15 years old. That was a.308 that I got. And that was the gun that I used to kill my first antelope, my first elk, my first mule deer. That was the rifle that like, allowed me to, I guess, become more of a generalist hunter beyond just a whitetail. Guy was having my own, my very own rifle. And it was a.308 and a Remington 700. Just. It just worked good for everything. So Yanni's second best gift ever was a Remington 700. My best gift ever. Remington 700. Yanni, what was the best gift you ever got?
Phil Taylor
My youngest daughter was born December 5, which is an early Christmas present, but she was. Jennifer reminded me this morning that she was supposed to be a Thanksgiving baby. She was quite a bit late.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Phil Taylor
And. Which usually doesn't make the carrier of that baby happy, but it was very nice gift. Two weeks later, we drove from. Where were we? We were living in Salt Lake. We drove to Michigan and I don't. So that was 2013. I forget what they called it. It wasn't the polar vortex that like went down into Texas or whatever, but it was a storm that came into the Midwest and It literally just put a sheet of ice basically from somewhere in the Dakotas all the way into the, you know, into the Great Lakes states. And some of the craziest, scariest driving I've ever experienced. There was a moment.
Giannis Patelis
How far of a drive?
Phil Taylor
Long enough. We had to stay overnight, you know, two days of driving. And to do that with a two week old baby in the middle of winters, maybe not wasn't a good decision, but there was a moment where I drove through very slowly through a recently happened accident where there was multiple cars, like stuff littered on the highway. And I just was like, I think the best idea is just to keep weaving and moving, like, don't touch the brakes, don't hit the gas, you know, and just get away from all of this. But yeah, it was pretty intense.
Giannis Patelis
So she was a better Christmas gift than your, your rifle dad gave you?
Phil Taylor
Oh, yeah.
Giannis Patelis
Okay, Cal. Best Christmas gift you ever received. And then we're gonna hear from Phil the engineer, I think.
Ryan Callahan
So my mom. And it'd be. I can't really remember if it was. I think it may have been more of a birthday present. But sometimes a Christmas present would be renewal subscriptions to Outdoor Life and Field and Stream and my dad, Sacombo Deal Collected Works of Jack London. It's a big, thick book. Okay. But both of those were, you know, like, definitely like the things that I would read and read and read that were just like. Because I really didn't have any buddy that was like really enamored with hunting and fishing in my social circle, like growing up, you know, so like there were folks who dabbled in it, but, you know, wasn't. That was like my main resource. Right. It's like. And you know, not like Internet stuff or anything like that, you know, just wasn't part of the, the learning experience at that point, so.
Giannis Patelis
Okay. Well, if anyone out there shopping for a gift for the three of us, you could get us a gun, books, or a child. That's. That's at the top of our list.
Phil Taylor
Yeah. But number three is good too, which would be, you know, food.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah, I mean. Yeah, food. Really? It's such a good gift. I mean, look at this.
Giannis Patelis
Brody Henderson. Mule deer brats.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah. And anybody who does this stuff knows that sausage is expensive. Whether you make it on your own or pay to have it done, it ain't cheap. It's time and money. And it's arguably like the most expensive thing in your freezer. And it's almost always the thing that I give away. And I mean, ducks make People very happy, too. For the folks, those of you who can appreciate a good duck.
Phil Taylor
That's right. I was gonna. I was gonna add to that and say that I ain't giving a duck to nobody. Oh, dude, it's just anybody.
Giannis Patelis
Especially a plucked one like that.
Phil Taylor
Oh, yeah. If like Brody, I know that when he thaws that thing out, it will be treated properly. It'll be enjoyed. But I can't say that about everybody.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
Phil, the engineers are Remington 700 also at the top of your list.
Corey Calkins
It's not. No. And also both my kids were born in the spring, so I don't have that. That cop out either.
Phil Taylor
Cop out.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm gonna be honest.
Phil Taylor
Thank you.
Corey Calkins
Thank you, Cal. This is easy. I mean, number three, PlayStation 2, that was in the year 2000. Number two, probably the Game Boy advance in 1998. And number one's PlayStation 1, I think that was 97.
Giannis Patelis
Hell yeah, Phil.
Corey Calkins
Hell yeah.
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Giannis Patelis
All right, moving on. Our next segment is Meat Pole. Show me a meat, boys and take my pole.
Phil Taylor
Welcome to Meat Eater Radio.
Giannis Patelis
I got a game to play.
Corey Calkins
Oh yeah, Whiteboards.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, whiteboards.
Phil Taylor
All right.
Giannis Patelis
Meat Pole is a test of how much you know about your fellow hunters and anglers. I surveyed 500 meat eater listeners about personal preferences and personal experiences. Your job is to predict their answers. There are three questions. Whoever is closest to the correct answer between Cal and Giannis gets a point. Whoever gets two points will be the winner. And everyone in the chat should play along as well because Phil is going to watch for your answers and give a shout out to whoever is closest. You boys ready?
Phil Taylor
Yeah, I'm having a little Christmas cookie.
Giannis Patelis
All right, the first question. What percentage of meat eater listeners plan to serve wild game on Christmas this year? So you're going to write down a number as a percent. What percentage of meat eater listeners plan to serve wild game on Christmas this year?
Phil Taylor
Can't believe you guys thought that was a cop out.
Giannis Patelis
I mean, December 5th, it's closer to Thanksgiving. Yanni it is. But Cal, what are you serving on Christmas this year?
Ryan Callahan
Well, I'll. I'm definitely be cooking some wild game on Christmas. Haven't cleared that with the program manager yet.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Ryan Callahan
But Christmas Eve, I have a whole antelope ham that I'm gonna, you know, make all super nice in the smoker. Get a good salty, briny crust on there.
Giannis Patelis
When you gotta start on that, then.
Ryan Callahan
I'll do that Christmas Eve morning.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Ryan Callahan
And then do, like, hard rolls and a couple little sandwich spread sauces.
Phil Taylor
You're only gonna brine it for a day?
Ryan Callahan
No. So what I like to do is just do like a salt rub the night before and then. Which is a brine, but. And then put it on the pellet grill and then make a mop. So it's. It's hard with a pellet grill because you lose so much heat. But like just 3:25ish. And then do like a rosemary, thyme, garlic, more salt, butter, and olive oil. And then mop that on that roast over and over again, like every 20 minutes. And it really extends the cooking time, but you get this nice, like, salty crust on there. It's kind of like Mediterranean style. You put tzatziki out, something like that. But. And it works awesome with antelope specifically, but then folks can kind of build their own little sandwiches.
Phil Taylor
Yeah.
Ryan Callahan
And then I'm going to make a huge thing, poke out of a chunk of the yellow fin that we got from meat eater experiences. And then I might do meatballs, too. Some fresh ground elk meatballs and a nice homemade marinara sauce in a crock pot.
Phil Taylor
I'm guessing. Guessing that you must be hosting.
Ryan Callahan
Well, my Uncle Mike's hosting, and in his words, this is one of the original Cal Callahan's. In his words, I'm providing the house, and I will buy whatever you tell me. He's like, that's all I can contribute, which is a lot of. This is a huge contribution.
Giannis Patelis
Is he the program manager or that's referring to someone else?
Ryan Callahan
That's referring to somebody else on Christmas Day.
Giannis Patelis
Got it.
Ryan Callahan
There's Christmas Day responsibilities, but my Christmas Eve responsibilities are. Are helping provide the food for 18 people.
Giannis Patelis
Wow.
Ryan Callahan
My Uncle Mike's hosting. He'll buy some of the beer and the. In the. In the booze, and then he likes to do not a booyah. Bayes. What's the other seafood kind of stew chowder.
Corey Calkins
It's such a c. It's like a French pino.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah. Thank you. Good job, team.
Corey Calkins
Italian.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
So, Cal, you better get that paperwork submitted then to the program manager so you can figure out Christmas Day. Again, the question they're answering is what percentage of meat eater listeners plan to serve wild game on Christmas this year? Are you two ready? Reveal your answers. Cal says 86%.
Phil Taylor
California.
Giannis Patelis
Giannis says 65%. The correct. I thought that was high is 44.7, meaning Yanni takes the first point of the game.
Ryan Callahan
I think that's directly proportionate, reflective of people who were successful and were not successful.
Corey Calkins
We had Jerry in the chat saying 45.
Giannis Patelis
45. Hold on, Jerry. Seven points off. A 2020 YouGov poll looked at the most popular Christmas dishes in America. They found that turkey, prime rib, roast beef, steak, chicken, pork loin and ham are the favorites, while goose, duck, lamb, and fish had the lowest approval ratings.
Phil Taylor
I got a good Christmas duck story. We still tell it. I think that the, the details in the story have been skewed. And if my brother was here, he would, he could better tell the story. But the short version of it is. Excuse me. We're at my grandmother's in Chicago and she cooked duck for Christmas. And she.
Giannis Patelis
Where'd the duck come from?
Ryan Callahan
Like a farm grocery store.
Phil Taylor
Farm duck. Farm duck, Yep. And she was a good cook, considered herself a good cook and took a lot of pride in, you know, decorating for the holidays and having just a supreme spread. And it's. Whenever it's served, we sit down, it's duck, it looks beautiful. And my brother asked for ketchup, and that did not go over well with Grandma. And I don't forget exactly, you know, what happened after that.
Giannis Patelis
But did he get his ketchup?
Phil Taylor
I don't even remember that part. I just remember that he asked for it and that, oh, yeah, that's when the store.
Ryan Callahan
That'd make my mom lose it. She would, she'd be visibly angered.
Giannis Patelis
Question 2. What percentage of meat eater listeners have killed a deer on Christmas day? And Yani took the first point. He was closest on figuring it out. What percentage of listeners are serving wild game on Christmas this year? Now we're on question two. What percentage of meat eater listeners have killed a deer on Christmas Day? Have either of you killed a deer on Christmas Day?
Ryan Callahan
Plenty of birds.
Giannis Patelis
Okay.
Phil Taylor
I don't believe so. I just killed my first deer on Thanksgiving Day this year, which I thought was kind of fun and cool. You know, I didn't even think I'd ever be hunting on Thanksgiving Day, let alone get lucky enough to kill a deer.
Giannis Patelis
Why do you think you'd ever hunt on Thanksgiving Day?
Phil Taylor
Well, because usually I was never in a spot where that was like I know for some people that's just tradition, right? That like Thanksgiving Day you're out hunting. But I don't know, for us we're usually just with. I don't know, maybe I'm not remembering things correctly cuz I. Maybe I've been on a squirrel hunt. Thanksgiving Day, now that I think about it. But anyways, I'm hoping to make it a TR Tradition.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
Again. What percentage of listeners have killed a deer on Christmas day? Are you two ready?
Phil Taylor
Yeah.
Ryan Callahan
Oh man. According to our folks writing in, I am way high.
Giannis Patelis
Go ahead and reveal your answers. Cal says 11%, Yani says 7%. One of you is within 1% of the correct answer. The correct answer is 6.2%.
Ryan Callahan
There's a lot of I forgot you.
Corey Calkins
Guys can see me starring things over here. But guess what? We had three people get it right on the money. We had Benjamin say six.
Giannis Patelis
Damn bad.
Corey Calkins
Scuba Steve said six two.
Ryan Callahan
Well done here.
Corey Calkins
It said six two.
Giannis Patelis
Hell yeah. Dan, the chat is.
Ryan Callahan
I think what we've learned here is, I believe more in our audience than our audience does.
Giannis Patelis
Alabama has one of the most unique ruts in North America with peak rut dates ranging from mid November to mid February. And according to deer fetal collections, Christmas Day is actually peak ruth in some parts of the state. Oh, here's question three. We already know Yanni won it, but we're gonna look at this last one anyway. What percentage of meat eater listeners think Giannis is a better gift giver than Cal?
Phil Taylor
Oh, how would they even know?
Giannis Patelis
They've been consuming content with you two for years and they've maybe gathered better some info in that time. What percentage of listeners think Yanni is a better gift giver than Cal? Yanni, who do you think is a better gift giver?
Phil Taylor
I don't know.
Giannis Patelis
What did you give this week?
Phil Taylor
Really good.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, you gave ducks.
Phil Taylor
Yeah, a nice little like, I don't know what you call it. It's a kit of, of everyday useful items. I mean, it hasn't been two weeks since the last time someone at my house was like, I can't find the super glue. You know, now we'll have an extra tube kicking around.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah, both gave good gifts.
Ryan Callahan
And I thought the salve too is I was looking for bag balm, but they didn't, didn't have it at the grocery store, so. Because that's, that's helpful stuff, especially for Yanni's running career.
Giannis Patelis
So what percentage dry weather of listeners think Yani is a better gift giver than Cal? Are you too.
Phil Taylor
So if I. If I was to say 10%, that would mean that 90% of them thought that Cal was a better.
Giannis Patelis
That's correct.
Phil Taylor
Gift giver.
Giannis Patelis
We surveyed 500 people to get this answer.
Ryan Callahan
Wow.
Phil Taylor
Better gift giver.
Ryan Callahan
God. John Flynn says 110% of the people think you're a better gift.
Giannis Patelis
Are you ready?
Phil Taylor
Sure.
Giannis Patelis
Reveal.
Ryan Callahan
Buy your own stuff. Okay.
Giannis Patelis
Cal says 54% of listeners think Yanni is a better gift giver than Cal. And Yanni says 80% of listeners think Yani is a better gift giver than.
Phil Taylor
Yeah, this is not a reflection of what I think. This is what I think the listeners think.
Giannis Patelis
Well, it's a clean sweep for Yanni. This week, 73.1% of listeners said they think Yanni is a better gift giver.
Corey Calkins
We had Evan guessing 7.73.5. Very close.
Phil Taylor
Good work, Evan.
Giannis Patelis
Done. Evan Yanni is our winner of this week's game of meat pole. All right, next up.
Phil Taylor
It's a fun game, Spencer.
Giannis Patelis
Thank you, Yanni. I think it fits into radio. Well, next up, we are doing one minute fishing.
Phil Taylor
Do I feel lucky? Oh, boy, do you, punk. Go ahead, make my cast.
Ryan Callahan
For folks who don't know, that percentage game is something that we started doing at the live Live podcast. Live Live tour. And it is. It is pretty fun to be able to stare out at the audience and be like, 54 of this crowd. Yeah.
Giannis Patelis
We learn a lot about folks in Anaheim and Salt Lake City and Missoula. My favorite question to ask was what percentage of people think that their state game agency is corrupt? Yeah, and it's often more than half in any state you're in. All right, one minute fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish. And if they're successful, we'll make a 500 donation to a conservation group this week. Our angler is Santa Claus, who's at an undisclosed location somewhere in the northern hemisphere, and he's fishing for a donation to the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership. Oh, he's even in a boat. I didn't know Santa was gonna be in a boat. Hello, boys.
Santa Claus
How are you today?
Giannis Patelis
Wow.
Phil Taylor
Well, you. You just saw us, Santa. Don't you know I'm everywhere all at once?
Santa Claus
That's how this whole thing works.
Ryan Callahan
You got it. Someplace sunny. Oh, it's extremely hot out here.
Santa Claus
I thought it'd be cooler than it was in the podcast studio, but I'm still uncomfortable in my suit.
Phil Taylor
How did you transport your canoe, Santa?
Santa Claus
By sleigh of Course.
Phil Taylor
Oh, of course.
Corey Calkins
I mean, that makes sense.
Giannis Patelis
Santa is. Is in an actual canoe. He has found soft water somewhere here in the Gallatin Valley. Unless he. He went somewhere else. Totally. He does have a sleigh to transport himself.
Ryan Callahan
He might be on ice. I don't see any ripples coming off that canoe.
Santa Claus
It's mostly hard water, but there's a.
Ryan Callahan
Little bit of soft water, and we.
Santa Claus
Didn'T feel comfortable getting on the ice today.
Giannis Patelis
Okay. He is being safe. He has a little orange life vest on that. I. I don't know if. If that's gonna work if we get in an emergency. All right, Santa Claus. Okay.
Ryan Callahan
But it is legal.
Giannis Patelis
Santa Claus, what are we fishing for today?
Santa Claus
Fishing for some perch, I'm told.
Giannis Patelis
Okay, and. And what tactics are you using?
Santa Claus
We've got a little jig head here. A little sort of a fire tiger type jig head with some. Some mealworms.
Phil Taylor
Okay, good store.
Giannis Patelis
Well, the. Maybe the meat eater flagship store in downtown Bozeman, because they do sell bait. So if you're in the Gallatin Valley and you find that you need some bait, swing into the meat eater store. Okay, Santa Claus. Your one minute starts whenever you make your first cast.
Ryan Callahan
Oh, is that his.
Phil Taylor
Let's go.
Ryan Callahan
Special light at his feet?
Giannis Patelis
Well, his ham special light is sitting right here, so he must have a different.
Santa Claus
That's a different beer.
Giannis Patelis
Okay, Santa Claus is now jigging. It's a very gentle motion he's using.
Ryan Callahan
It's a pretty aggressive jig, though.
Giannis Patelis
Oh, the. Oh, sure. Yeah. That is a short rod that he has as well. It's like something fit in the sleigh, Spencer. Something between an ice fishing pole and a regular old jigging pole.
Phil Taylor
You don't think that's the ice fishing rod?
Giannis Patelis
It looks. I mean, it looks. You're 30 seconds in.
Phil Taylor
Did you see that fella running behind him?
Ryan Callahan
Santa is somewhere just looking at Santa's jigging motion here. I don't think all Saint Nick's a real purge fisherman.
Giannis Patelis
Well, you can give us some tips. He's got 10 seconds left.
Phil Taylor
The shaky wrist slow it down a little bit.
Ryan Callahan
Yeah, Drank way too much the night before. And your hands are shaking.
Giannis Patelis
All right.
Corey Calkins
You might have a drink near his. His boot down there. I don't know what's.
Phil Taylor
He did mention some eggnog.
Giannis Patelis
Your one minute is over. But he's still fishing Anyway, Santa, I'm disappointed we couldn't make it happen for the Christmas episode of Meat Eater Radio Live.
Santa Claus
Although I do believe in the magic of Christmas. I did not have a lot of confidence that this would work.
Giannis Patelis
Okay, well, thank you for joining us, Randall Claus. Where are you off to next? Where. Where are we going to see you after this, I hope?
Santa Claus
Chipotle.
Giannis Patelis
And he did not. He did not bring a change of clothes, so you may actually see him in Chipotle. All right, see you later, Santa.
Phil Taylor
Thanks, Santa.
Giannis Patelis
Okay, that brings us to the end of this week's show. Phil, let's get some final feedback from the chat.
Phil Taylor
Oh, it's over already.
Giannis Patelis
It's over already.
Phil Taylor
It's been 55 minutes.
Corey Calkins
Fly by.
Phil Taylor
Wow.
Corey Calkins
Mogor asks, hey, Spencer, when you found out that your favorite beer was going out of production, how much did you stockpile for yourself? Thank you for your answer. I think you've talked about this before, but it's been a while, right?
Giannis Patelis
Yeah. So it was. There were rumors that it was happening for a while, so I spent, like a year just collecting. And I had, like, people in my network, my family and my friends also trying to get it. Yeah. Because. Well, they don't sell any of it in Montana either. When they did sell Ham Special Lights, it's like sort of a Great Lakes, Midwestern thing, maybe. Maybe in the Northeast as well, but we didn't have it this far West, So I was really stockpiling it. And you would see in Facebook groups when someone posts like, the Walmart in Mitchell, South Dakota, just got more Ham Special Light. I'd had a small but loyal following.
Phil Taylor
What kind of a Facebook group? Like a ham.
Giannis Patelis
A ham's Facebook group. Yeah. And again, there were. There were rumors for a while that this was going to happen. How it worked was during COVID Molson Coors, who I think is the. The per. The larger entity that brews hams and Ham Special Light, they cut back production during COVID Like. Like a lot of places had to. And when they did that, they realized, hey, maybe we don't have to sell all of these niche beers anymore because it's not really affecting our bottom line. And so they caught 13 of their products. One of them was, sadly, the Ham Special Light. So I am down to my third to last case. I think by the time it was formally announced that they were canceling it, I had like 10 cases left. So it's. We're down to the last.
Phil Taylor
You were telling us the other day that they're getting. They've outlived their shelf life.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah. So that people are always in my Instagram comments like, beer don't keep. Those things got to be green. I get that. But you know what's better than no ham special light is a slightly off ham special light. So they are starting to taste slightly different. Just a more mature beer. Now. You got to drink them ice cold. You don't drink a ham special light at room temperature anymore. What else we got, Phil?
Corey Calkins
Ben's asking. Tomorrow's my birthday, and I'm Spencer's number one fan. Can he send me a personalized message from his hot tub? Do you have a cameo account, Spencer? Have you thought about starting one?
Giannis Patelis
No. Ben is someone I went to high school with, so it's just. It's a little. Little prank from Ben. Yeah, I'll send you a message. Ben from the hot tub.
Ryan Callahan
That's a whole different revenue stream. Thoughts from Spencer's hot tub? That'd be good.
Giannis Patelis
Yeah, we'll give. Give the money to conservation.
Corey Calkins
Leland asks, what is better to prep for quail hunting? Skeeter trap? What hunting style does each prep for?
Ryan Callahan
Better.
Giannis Patelis
What do you got, Cal?
Ryan Callahan
I mean, whatever you can make time for, for sure. More shooting in the off season develops muscle memory and. Yeah, I mean, that is the number one thing is mounting that gun the same way every single time and shooting from your toes, not your heels. An aggressive stance, and you can hone that skill way better in the off season than you can during the hunting season. But yeah, boy, the sporting clays. If you can make it out to sporting clays, that's a great way to do it because you just see a bunch of different angles and go. You know, try to make some time to do it when it's not busy. And you can spend time at different stations playing them over and over again for those. Those tricky shots.
Phil Taylor
But maybe for quail, the trap, Just because it comes out from under your feet kind of. Right?
Ryan Callahan
Yeah. Yeah. If you had to pick one.
Phil Taylor
Yeah, because it's not like you're gonna get a big passing shot on a quail.
Ryan Callahan
No, not. I mean, it all happens out there, but yeah, I think if you're flushing birds, they're typically gonna come out and go away from you, Bill.
Giannis Patelis
Anything else?
Corey Calkins
Yeah, we can do one more. Bradley asks, where do you do most of your Christmas shopping for your significant other? I bought most of my presents at Menards this year. You guys have, like, go to outlets for your girlfriend or. Or wife.
Giannis Patelis
Bradley is. He's a good Midwesterner. Going to Menards, you save big money there. You got to send it.
Phil Taylor
Oh, look, he's a. He's a big trapper. Ski guy, judging by his picture there. No, I Don't. I didn't. I bought very few gifts this year. Everybody has what they need in my house.
Giannis Patelis
There you go. I got my wife's gift from ebay this year, but she might be listening, so I'm not going to say what it is. Colony, any thoughts on this?
Ryan Callahan
Yeah, boy. I think actions over more stuff. Everybody has access to stuff at the, you know, all the time these days.
Giannis Patelis
So sure could be the action of buying something.
Ryan Callahan
There's a list of things that I need to get done that would make somebody very happy.
Phil Taylor
Oh, buddy. Tell me about that.
Giannis Patelis
Phil, what else you got?
Corey Calkins
How about we call the show guys?
Giannis Patelis
Okay. We just hit minute 60 and I can hear.
Phil Taylor
Merry Christmas.
Giannis Patelis
There's an all company meeting happening upstairs.
Phil Taylor
That's right now. Oh, right now. You're right.
Ryan Callahan
Yep. St. Nick, man. Need to get to that.
Giannis Patelis
All right, everyone, Merry Christmas. Thank you very much.
Ryan Callahan
Thanks for tuning in.
Giannis Patelis
And Phil, next week we do do not have a show.
Corey Calkins
Yes, next week we're dropping a couple of episodes of the kids podcast on the Meat eater feed, but there are even more over on the Meat Eater kids feed. So if you're a parent and you're listening to this show right now, go subscribe to the new feed. If you haven't, if you haven't done that already. But we'll be dropping a few more episodes and then we will also be back with a new episode on January 2, but it will be pre taped, so it'll be live streamed, but it'll be pre recorded. So. But then after that we're live again for the foreseeable future.
Giannis Patelis
All right, Merry Christmas. We'll, we'll see you back here in the new year.
Ryan Callahan
Have a fun one. Get outside.
Giannis Patelis
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Ryan Callahan
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Episode Summary: The MeatEater Podcast – Ep. 640: MeatEater Radio Live! A Holiday Special
Release Date: December 20, 2024
Host: Spencer Newharth
Guests: Ryan Callahan, Giannis Patelis, Phil Taylor, Corey Calkins, Santa Claus (guest appearance)
Location: Meat Eater HQ, Bozeman, Montana
The episode kicks off with Spencer Newharth welcoming listeners to a special holiday edition of MeatEater Radio Live from their headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. Joining him are Ryan Callahan and Giannis Patelis. The trio sets the stage for an engaging show centered around the festive season, starting with a discussion on their top three Christmas gifts ever received.
Notable Quote:
Spencer Newharth [02:17]: "On today's show, we'll discuss the top three Christmas gifts we've ever received."
In a delightful twist, the hosts welcome a very special guest: Santa Claus, portrayed humorously by Phil Taylor. Santa brings with him two "bloody game bags" filled with mule deer and white-tailed deer meat, adding a rugged twist to the traditional holiday visitor. The segment is filled with playful banter as the hosts and Santa exchange gifts, revealing thoughtful and humorous presents tailored to each other's personalities.
Notable Quotes:
Giannis Patelis [04:26]: "Would you look at that? I have just opened my gift to reveal a couple of what would you call slides... largemouth bass."
Ryan Callahan [09:00]: "I had to take the... it looks new super glue out of the packaging, though, to make it all fit together."
Santa's gifts range from practical items like cutting boards made from elk meat to whimsical presents like a 2,000-piece Star Wars puzzle. The exchange highlights the camaraderie and unique sense of humor among the hosts.
Key Moments:
The "Top Threes" segment invites each host to share their top three Christmas gifts ever received.
Ryan Callahan:
Ryan Callahan [33:35]: "I got a prime rib roast from my mom one time. Like that was pretty, pretty banging."
Ryan Callahan [36:37]: "I got my first semi-auto shotgun, Winchester Super X2, which is still like a fantastic waterfowl semi-auto shotgun."
Phil Taylor [40:24]: "My youngest daughter was born December 5, which is an early Christmas present."
Phil Taylor:
Phil Taylor [34:42]: "A cooler full of headed shrimp. Whether you make it on your own or pay to have it done, it ain't cheap."
Phil Taylor [39:18]: "I got a Remington 700 chambered in .30-06 around age 14, which I used to kill my first buck in Wisconsin."
Phil Taylor [41:59]: "My youngest daughter was born December 5, which is an early Christmas present."
Giannis Patelis:
Giannis Patelis [36:03]: "In high school, I got some Cabela's waders that allowed me to kill hundreds of carp."
Giannis Patelis [36:37]: "My first trail cameras were a Moultrie M100, which made me a more excited deer hunter."
Giannis Patelis [39:36]: "My best gift ever was a Remington 700 from my parents in high school."
The segment underscores the hosts' deep connections to hunting traditions and the sentimental value of their gifts.
"Meat Pole" is a game segment where the hosts test their knowledge about their fellow hunters and anglers based on a survey of 500 MeatEater listeners.
Question 1: What percentage of MeatEater listeners plan to serve wild game on Christmas this year?
Question 2: What percentage of MeatEater listeners have killed a deer on Christmas Day?
Question 3: What percentage of MeatEater listeners think Giannis is a better gift giver than Cal?
Notable Quote:
Ryan Callahan [58:17]: "I think actions are more important than more stuff. Everybody has access to stuff all the time these days."
The game fosters a fun and competitive atmosphere, highlighting the hosts' rapport and deepening listener connection.
In the "One Minute Fishing" segment, Santa Claus participates in a challenge to catch a perch within one minute to earn a $500 donation to the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.
Santa uses a jig head with mealworms from what appears to be the MeatEater flagship store's bait section. Despite being in a canoe at a soft water location in the Gallatin Valley, Santa struggles to catch a perch, humorously attributing his lack of success to the discomfort of his Santa suit.
Notable Quotes:
Santa Claus [60:40]: "I'm fishing for some perch, I'm told."
Giannis Patelis [61:55]: "You got a special light at his feet?"
Santa Claus [63:34]: "Although I do believe in the magic of Christmas, I did not have a lot of confidence that this would work."
While Santa doesn't secure a catch, the segment emphasizes conservation efforts and engages listeners with its playful execution.
The hosts address listener questions submitted via chat, covering topics ranging from hunting practices to gift-prepping and personal anecdotes.
Javelina Hunting:
Both Cal and Giannis discuss their experiences and the recent acceptance of javelina measurements by Boone and Crockett.
Pampering Hunting Dogs:
Cal shares his balanced approach to dog care, emphasizing the importance of outdoor endurance while maintaining a strong bond with his hunting dogs.
Wild Duck Down Pillows:
The conversation delves into the practicality and process of making wild duck down pillows, highlighting the challenges in cleaning and separating down feathers.
Christmas Shopping Habits:
The hosts share their preferred locations for holiday shopping, with Phil Taylor opting for minimal gift-giving and Giannis choosing eBay for his wife's gifts.
Notable Quote:
Giannis Patelis [66:08]: "If you got yourself a... there’s a list of things that I need to get done that would make somebody very happy."
The segment fosters a sense of community and shared experiences among listeners, encouraging further engagement and interaction.
Throughout the episode, sponsors such as Dawson Knives, Seafoam, Fishing Booker, Land.com, and Heart and Soil are promoted. These advertisements are seamlessly integrated into the content, offering discounts and highlighting product benefits relevant to the outdoor enthusiast audience.
Example Advertisements:
Spencer Newharth [70:33]: "Outdoor adventure won't wait for engine problems. Seafoam can help your engine run better and last longer..."
Ryan Callahan [70:33]: "Organ meats are among the most nutrient-rich foods on the planet. You can get those same benefits via convenient daily capsules from Heart and Soil..."
As the episode winds down, the hosts extend heartfelt holiday wishes to their listeners, reminding them to subscribe to the MeatEater Kids podcast feed and previewing upcoming content. They emphasize taking time to enjoy the outdoors and express gratitude for their community's support.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Callahan [70:18]: "Have a fun one. Get outside."
The episode concludes with final sponsor messages, encouraging listeners to connect with BetterHelp for mental well-being support.
Overall Insights:
Community Engagement: The episode excels in fostering a strong connection with its audience through interactive segments like "Meat Pole" and addressing listener questions.
Humor and Camaraderie: The playful interactions among hosts and the guest appearance by Santa Claus add a festive and humorous tone, enhancing listener enjoyment.
Focus on Tradition and Conservation: Discussions around hunting traditions, gift-giving, and conservation efforts underscore the podcast's commitment to outdoor values and responsible stewardship.
This holiday special episode of The MeatEater Podcast offers a blend of heartfelt stories, engaging games, and meaningful conversations, making it a memorable addition to the series for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.