The MeatEater Podcast
Episode: Ep. 651: MeatEater Radio Live! Rare Guns, Best Camp Spots, and Gettysburg
Release Date: January 17, 2025

Overview

In Episode 651 of The MeatEater Podcast, host Spencer Newharth, along with co-hosts Seth Morris and Corey Calkins, deliver a dynamic live show from their headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This episode delves into a variety of outdoor topics, including rare firearms auctions, migration reports, fishing challenges, camping experiences, and an in-depth discussion on one of the most coveted public lands jobs—being a guide at Gettysburg. The episode is filled with engaging conversations, expert interviews, and interactive segments that cater to hunting enthusiasts, history buffs, and nature lovers alike.

1. Sleep and the Full Moon Debate [01:35 - 05:26]

The episode kicks off with Spencer Newharth addressing an amusing personal anecdote about a disagreement with Corey Calkins regarding the effects of a full moon on sleep. Spencer initially dismissed studies suggesting that full moons disrupt sleep but later conceded that research indicates people do indeed have more difficulty sleeping during a full moon.

Notable Quote:

Spencer Newharth [02:50]: "Pretty consistently agreed upon by science that you sleep worse on a full moon."

Despite Spencer's newfound understanding, Seth Morris shares his own experiences, highlighting how full moons typically disrupt his household's sleep patterns due to increased activity from pets and family members. The discussion humorously underscores the universal frustrations caused by bright nights and restless nights during full moons.

2. Rare Guns Auction with Joel Collander [05:28 - 18:06]

Guest: Joel Collander from Rock Island Auction
Timestamp for Key Segments: [07:52 - 17:52]

Spencer introduces Joel Collander to discuss the fascinating world of rare firearms up for auction. Joel highlights Rock Island Auction House as the premier destination for historic firearms, catering to both collectors and active users with a vast inventory of over 50,000 guns annually.

Notable Quotes:

Joel Collander [06:24]: "They were presented to Ulysses S. Grant, sold for $5.18 million."

Joel showcases exceptional pieces, including a Colt Walker revolver, noting its historical significance and extraordinary auction results. The conversation covers how antique firearms are valued, the meticulous care required in handling them, and the diverse clientele Rock Island attracts. Joel also shares details about other rare firearms, such as the 700 J.D. Jones rifle, discussing its unique characteristics and auction estimates.

Additional Highlights:

• Auction Insights: Joel explains the fluctuating nature of firearm auctions, emphasizing that the value of these collectibles is ultimately determined by what buyers are willing to pay.
• Rare Finds: Discussion on the most expensive firearm sold ($5.18 million) and upcoming auction items, including unique Colt Walkers and custom-made rifles.
• Collector Advice: Joel advises potential bidders to explore various bidding options on their website, emphasizing accessibility for all levels of collectors.

3. Migration Report by Matt McCormick [18:08 - 20:21]

Presenter: Matt McCormick
Timestamp for Key Insights: [18:15 - 20:21]

Matt McCormick delivers an insightful migration report focused on waterfowl hunting forecasts across different flyways. Reporting from Montana's Pacific Flyway, Matt discusses the culmination of a successful hunting season influenced by severe weather patterns that pushed birds southward into Utah's Sac Valley.

Notable Points:

• Season Closure: The Pacific Flyway season ended on January 10th with a significant influx of birds due to a major storm.
• Regional Variations: While some flyways like the Central and Mississippi are beginning to close, others are experiencing massive bird pushes.
• Hunting Tips: Matt encourages hunters to seek out states with remaining open seasons and make the most of the final weeks for hunting opportunities.

Matt’s report provides valuable information for hunters planning their strategies in the waning weeks of the hunting season, emphasizing adaptability and seizing opportunities as bird movements change.

4. One Minute Fishing Challenge [30:13 - 35:05]

Participant: Chester Floyd
Timestamp for Key Segments: [30:46 - 34:53]

In a lively interactive segment, Chester Floyd takes on the One Minute Fishing challenge from a frozen lake in Wisconsin. The goal was to catch a fish within 60 seconds to secure a $500 donation for Muskies Inc., a conservation group.

Notable Moments:

• Challenge Setup: Chester switches from fishing bluegill to baby perch due to lack of bites.
• Successful Catch: Despite the cold and challenging conditions, Chester successfully catches a perch in just 13 seconds.

Notable Quote:

Corey Calkins [33:25]: "Chester caught a little perch to make a donation to Muskies, Inc. Well done, Chester."

Chester’s quick success not only adds excitement to the show but also highlights the importance of supporting conservation efforts through engaging challenges.

5. Top Threes: Coolest Camping Spots [35:15 - 50:03]

In this segment, Spencer, Seth, and Phil share their top three coolest camping experiences, offering listeners a glimpse into some of the most breathtaking and unique outdoor locations they've visited.

Corey Calkins' Top Three:

1. Death Valley, California [35:55 - 38:58]: March 2023 trip featuring the Sailing Stones at Racetrack Playa, stargazing under a moonless sky, and experiencing extreme temperature shifts.

   Notable Quote:

   Corey Calkins [37:10]: "It was blazing hot... but you got the full effect of being in the desert because by that night, it was freezing cold and there were no moon."

2. Valley of the Gods, Utah [41:38 - 43:07]: A remote and picturesque area within the Bears Ears National Monument, requiring a high-clearance vehicle to access, offering stunning buttes and mesas illuminated by a full moon.

3. Cape Flattery, Washington [46:12 - 50:03]: The northwesternmost point in the lower 48 states, providing a panoramic 270-degree view, serene beach camping, and vibrant marine activity.

Seth Morris' Top Three:

1. Bob Marshall Wilderness, Montana [35:55 - 37:15]: Extensive experience guiding fishing pack trips, emphasizing safety and the rugged beauty of the wilderness.

   Notable Quote:

   Seth Morris [37:10]: "I schmeg before they go in. The dishwasher helps your dishwasher out."

2. Cumberland Island, Georgia [37:25 - 43:07]: Limited-access island showcasing wild horses, alligator sightings, and lush Spanish moss-covered trees, accessible via ferry from St. Mary's, Georgia.

3. Iceland Underneath Aya Fetja Yokio Volcano [46:22 - 48:35]: An adventurous month-long journey hitchhiking around Iceland's Ring Road Highway 1, camping near an erupting volcano, and experiencing the island's unique landscapes and friendly locals.

Phil Muskett's Top Three:

1. Missouri River, Montana [35:55 - 38:16]: Peaceful camping with views of an old homestead, wildlife activity, and serene river landscapes reminiscent of Lewis and Clark's explorations.

   Notable Quote:

   Phil Muskett [38:16]: "And it wasn't like a designated camp spot... It was just a cool spot to be in after a long, hard winter in Montana."

2. Northeast Montana Glacier Valley [43:10 - 50:03]: Camping near a massive glacier with awe-inspiring noises from ice sloughing off, accompanied by sightings of Dall sheep during a deer hunt.

   Notable Quote:

   Phil Muskett [49:10]: "That glacier made the craziest noises all night long."

3. East Alaskan Wilderness [46:12 - 48:35]: Although not explicitly detailed, Phil hints at breathtaking experiences in Southeast Alaska, capturing moose hunts and the majestic northern lights.

These personal stories not only highlight stunning natural environments but also convey the deep connection and respect each host has for the wilderness.

6. Gettysburg Guide Interview with Phil Muskett [51:46 - 64:00]

Guest: Phil Muskett, President of the Association of Licensed Battlefield Guides
Timestamp for Key Segments: [51:46 - 64:00]

Phil Muskett joins the show to discuss the prestigious role of being a licensed battlefield guide at Gettysburg, one of America's most historic and competitive public lands jobs.

Key Discussion Points:

• Desirability of the Role: Phil explains why guiding at Gettysburg is highly sought after, emphasizing the profound experience of sharing the battlefield's history with hundreds of thousands of visitors annually.

  Notable Quote:

  Phil Muskett [51:46]: "People come here to learn and hear the stories of the men who fought here and it's words of fire in them."

• Rigorous Testing Process:

  • Written Exam: Three-hour exam covering fill-in-the-blanks and picture recognition.
  • Essay Section: Five essay options, three must be completed within three hours.
  • Panel Interview: Assesses communication skills and ability to convey complex historical narratives.
  • Field Practicum: Three-day mentorship with experienced guides, including creating and delivering a test tour.
  • Oral Examination: Two attempts to lead a two-hour tour across the 25-square-mile battlefield.

  Notable Quote:

  Phil Muskett [56:05]: "They set a Guinness book world record for the most expensive movie prop firearm ever sold."

• Challenges in Recruitment: With the average age of current guides at 72, there's a pressing need to attract younger talent to sustain the role.

• Wildlife and Conservation at Gettysburg:

  • Deer Population Management: Federal employees conduct controlled hunts to maintain ecological balance.
  • Beaver Management: Efforts to mitigate beaver dams affecting historical landmarks.
  • Wildlife Sightings: Bald eagles, hawks, and occasional black bears enrich the natural environment of the battlefield.

Phil's Insights: Phil shares personal anecdotes about the rewards of guiding, such as connecting visitors with their ancestral histories and inspiring future generations through educational tours.

Notable Quote:

Phil Muskett [60:40]: "Our current controversy on the battlefield deals with beavers... to the chagrin of many historians."

7. Listener Feedback and Questions [64:00 - 68:43]

The hosts engage with listeners through live chat, addressing questions and sharing additional insights.

Key Highlights:

• First-Time Hunting in South Dakota: Advice is given to avoid Gregory County due to low retention rates and to consider drawing preference points for future quality hunting trips.

  Notable Quote:

  Corey Calkins [23:16]: "Plan on drawing some preference points, make a quality trip in like 2027 and for this first year... just don't do Gregory County."

• Waterfowl Hunting Stories: Phil shares a memorable hunt with Max Barda, highlighting scouting techniques and successful duck pushes.

• Venison Cooking Tips: The hosts discuss the ethics and techniques of presenting venison to guests, emphasizing transparency and culinary versatility to enhance acceptance of wild game meat.

• Deer Antler Consumption: A humorous discussion ensues about the possibility of eating deer antlers in velvet, sharing personal stories and debunking myths about the practice.

Notable Quote:

Phil Muskett [25:21]: "I love having people over for dinner that are wishy-washy about eating wild game and then just like, not telling them what it is."

8. Final Segments and Closing Remarks [68:43 - 69:40]

As the episode winds down, the hosts recap key moments, congratulate Chester Floyd on his successful fishing challenge, and tease upcoming content, including the return of the MeatEater Movie Club. They encourage listeners to engage with future episodes and continue supporting conservation and outdoor education initiatives.

Notable Quote:

Steven Rinella [69:36]: "Hey, American history buffs... this new Mountain man edition about the beaver skin trade is available for pre-order now wherever audiobooks are sold."

Conclusion

Episode 651 of The MeatEater Podcast offers a rich tapestry of outdoor adventures, expert insights, and lively interactions. From the allure of rare firearms auctions and strategic hunting forecasts to the serene beauty of top camping spots and the demanding rigor of becoming a Gettysburg guide, this episode is a comprehensive resource for outdoor enthusiasts. The engaging discussions, coupled with fun and interactive segments, make it an invaluable listen for anyone passionate about hunting, history, and the great outdoors.

Key Takeaways:

• Rare Firearms Insight: Understanding the value and history behind antique firearms can enhance collection strategies.
• Migration Knowledge: Staying updated with migration reports is crucial for successful waterfowl hunting.
• Camping Inspiration: Exploring diverse and unique camping locations can enrich outdoor experiences.
• Guiding Excellence: Becoming a licensed Gettysburg guide requires dedication, extensive knowledge, and exceptional storytelling abilities.
• Community Engagement: Active participation and feedback from the community foster a supportive and informative environment for all listeners.

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