Ep. 687: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLIX

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast – Episode 687: "Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLIX"

Release Date: April 9, 2025
Host: Randall Williams
Guests: Spencer Newharth, Giannis, Brody, Cal, Tressa, Alyssa, Hansi, Phil

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Introduction

In Episode 687 of The MeatEater Podcast, host Randall Williams steers the show into a lively and competitive atmosphere with the MeatEater Trivia CLIX game. This episode is a departure from the usual hunting, fishing, and conservation discussions, focusing instead on a ten-round quiz show that challenges the knowledge of its diverse group of guests. The game encompasses questions from MeatEater’s four verticals: hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking.

Key Points:

• Host and Participants: Randall Williams introduces the trivia format, welcoming guests Spencer Newharth, Giannis, Brody, Cal, Tressa, Alyssa, Hansi, and Phil to participate.
• Game Structure: The trivia consists of ten rounds, with each question tied to one of the verticals.
• Prize: The winner earns the opportunity to have MeatEater donate $500 to a conservation organization of their choice.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [00:59]: "Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins."

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IFAQ Segment: What is a Randomal?

Before diving into the trivia, Randall introduces the "Infrequently Asked Question" (IFAQ) segment. This week’s question, submitted by Spencer Newharth, seeks to define the term "randomal."

Discussion Highlights:

• Phil’s Definition [03:13]:

  "A randomal is an alpha who lives life not for the dest or the journey for the complete, but for the competition and hot dogs you crush along the way. A randomal is also keen enough to distinguish that from the journey."

• Randall’s Expansion [03:25]: Randall elaborates that "randomals" don’t take themselves too seriously but are serious about trivia, favoring accurate spelling and embracing diversity, primarily residing near the Ohio River and enjoying activities like guns and unique gun-related information.

• Brody’s Anecdote [05:03]: Brody shares his experience with "randomals," linking the term to cased meat products and products like the Casa Kreiner turkey call.

Notable Quote:

Phil [03:13]: "A randomal is an alpha who lives life not for the dest or the journey for the complete, but for the competition and hot dogs you crush along the way."

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MeatEater Trivia Game

Randall launches into the trivia rounds, presenting each question, facilitating discussions, and revealing correct answers accompanied by insightful commentary.

Question 1: Public Lands

Category: Public Lands
Question: What river is the only major river system entirely contained within the state of Nevada and shares its name with the largest national forest outside of Alaska?

Options:

• A) Elko
• B) Humboldt
• C) Reno
• D) Winnemucca

Discussion: Participants deliberate on Nevada’s unique river systems, with insights into geographical specifics and historical significance.

Correct Answer: B) Humboldt

Insights: Randall explains that the Humboldt River originates in the Ruby Mountains and flows west for about 300 miles before ending in the Humboldt Sink. It was crucial for 19th-century emigrants on the California trail and shares its name with the Humboldt Tabe National Forest.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [12:43]: "The Humboldt river originates in the Ruby Mountains of northeastern Nevada and flows westward for approximately 300 miles before ending in the Humboldt Sink."

Question 2: Cooking

Category: Cooking
Question: What dish created by an American physician to combat malnutrition during the Civil War, consists of ground beef mixed with seasonings formed into a patty, and is typically served with gravy?

Discussion: The conversation veers into culinary history, differentiating between various beef cuts and their uses in traditional dishes.

Correct Answer: Salisbury Steak

Insights: Randall details that Salisbury steak was developed by Dr. James Henry Salisbury as a remedy for soldiers suffering from chronic diarrhea. The dish emphasizes a meat-centered diet and is served with brown gravy, distinguishing it from similar preparations like Swiss steak.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [17:04]: "Dr. Salisbury developed it during the Civil War as a remedy for soldiers suffering from chronic diarrhea and other ailments."

Question 3: America

Category: America
Question: In what state do you find the northwest angle, the northernmost spot in the lower 48?

Discussion: Participants recall U.S. geography, specifically peculiar boundary definitions resulting from historical surveying errors.

Correct Answer: Minnesota

Insights: The northwest angle is uniquely positioned, separated from the main body of Minnesota by Lake of the Woods, and accessible only via Canada or by boat. It extends slightly above the 49th parallel due to a late-18th-century surveying error.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [21:12]: "This unique geographic feature is actually separated from the rest of Minnesota by Lake of the Woods..."

Question 4: Fishing

Category: Fishing
Question: What Turquoise Blue river, which the Alaska Department of Fish and Game calls the most heavily fished river in the 49th state, produced the world record angler caught king salmon in 1985?

Discussion: Participants share personal fishing experiences and discuss record-breaking catches.

Correct Answer: Kenai River

Insights: The Kenai River is renowned for its distinctive blue color due to glacial silt and exceptional salmon runs. In 1985, angler Les Anderson caught a record 97-pound king salmon, highlighting the river's fishing prowess.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [26:22]: "The Kenai River is famous for its distinctive blue color, which comes from glacial silt, and for its exceptional salmon runs."

Question 5: Gear/Maritime Freight

Category: Gear/Maritime Freight
Question: What is the busiest port on the Great Lakes which shares its name with a square roll top backpack designed to fit in the bottom of canoes?

Discussion: The team explores Great Lakes commerce and outdoor gear, recalling the historical significance of specific ports.

Correct Answer: Duluth

Insights: Duluth Superior is the busiest port on the Great Lakes by tonnage, handling iron, coal, grain, and other commodities. The Duluth Pack, a durable square roll-top backpack, originated here in 1882, becoming an iconic piece of outdoor equipment.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [32:35]: "The Duluth Pack is a square roll top backpack or bag originally designed to fit in the bottom of canoes. It's a classic piece of outdoor equipment..."

Question 6: Hunting

Category: Hunting
Question: What classic hunting bullet, first tested by John Nosler in 1947, gets its name from the internal structure that divides its two lead cores?

Discussion: The conversation touches on bullet design and hunting practices, discussing the technical aspects that enhance hunting effectiveness.

Correct Answer: Partition

Insights: The "Partition" bullet features a unique internal copper partition that separates its front and rear lead cores, allowing for controlled expansion and deep penetration. This design revolutionized hunting ammunition by enhancing tissue damage while maintaining bullet integrity.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [37:03]: "The partition gets its name from the unique internal copper partition that separates the front and rear lead cores of the bullet."

Question 7: Woodsmanship

Category: Woodsmanship
Question: In the realm of wilderness medicine, what do the letters HA stand for in acronyms like HACE and HAPE, which occur to travelers in mountainous terrain?

Discussion: Participants discuss high-altitude medical conditions, drawing parallels to mountaineering experiences depicted in films.

Correct Answer: High Altitude

Insights: HACE (High Altitude Cerebral Edema) and HAPE (High Altitude Pulmonary Edema) are serious, life-threatening conditions that can affect individuals rapidly ascending to high elevations without proper acclimatization. Immediate descent is often the best cure.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [41:25]: "High altitude cerebral edema and high altitude pulmonary edema are serious medical conditions that can affect people traveling in mountainous regions."

Question 8: Fishing

Category: Fishing
Question: What is the common term for a four-sided lead weight with a point at one end, often used by shore anglers for fishing stationary baits?

Discussion: The team reflects on fishing techniques and equipment, sharing anecdotes about the practicality of pyramid sinkers.

Correct Answer: Pyramid

Insights: Pyramid sinkers are favored by shore anglers for their pointed design, which helps anchor the weight in sand or mud, preventing rolling in surf or currents. This design facilitates a more stable and stationary bait presentation.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [44:47]: "Shore anglers typically use pyramid sinkers because the pointed design helps anchor the weight in sand or mud, preventing it from rolling in surf or current."

Question 9: Public Land Survey System

Category: Public Lands
Question: Under the public land survey System, how many 640-acre sections make up a township?

Discussion: Participants delve into land management and surveying history, discussing how townships are structured under the PLSS.

Correct Answer: 36

Insights: A standard township in the PLSS comprises 36 sections, each 640 acres, organized in a 6-mile by 6-mile grid. These sections are crucial for land distribution, with particular allocations reserved as state trust lands for public education and other beneficiaries.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [48:35]: "Under the public land survey system established by the land Ordinance of 1785, a township contains 36 sections, with each section being 640 acres."

Question 10: Listener's Question – Cooking

Category: Cooking
Question: What nine-letter side dish which gets its name from the Algonquin tribes of New England, can be described as a medley of grains, legumes, vegetables, and sometimes meats? Most common ingredients include sweet corn, beans, tomatoes, and peppers.

Discussion: This final question, submitted by listener Brian Green, invites the team to recall traditional Native American cuisine and its evolution into modern dishes.

Correct Answer: Succotash

Insights: Succotash originates from the Narragansett word "saquotash," describing unripe corn and beans boiled together with bear's flesh. Today, it typically includes sweet corn, beans, tomatoes, and peppers, and can incorporate various grains, legumes, vegetables, and meats, offering a nutritious and versatile side dish.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [57:53]: "Succotash comes from the Narragansett word saquotash, which was described by British explorer John Carver in 1787 as, 'unripe corn and beans in the same state, boiled together with bear's flesh...'"

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Scoreboard Updates and Winner Announcement

Throughout the trivia game, Randall provides periodic updates on the participants' scores, keeping the competitive spirit alive. As the game progresses, Brody Henderson leads with six points, followed by Hansi, Cal, and Giannis with five each. By the final question, Brody maintains his lead, securing the win.

Final Scores:

• Brody Henderson: 6 points
• Hansi, Cal, Giannis: 5 points each
• Others: Varied scores, with Alyssa and Tressa at lower points.

Prize Allocation: Brody selects the MeatEater Land Access Initiative as his chosen conservation organization to receive the $500 donation.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [58:46]: "Brody Henderson in first place with six points."

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Conclusion

Episode 687 of The MeatEater Podcast successfully blends the show's core themes of outdoor expertise with a competitive trivia format, engaging both participants and listeners. The episode not only tests the knowledge of seasoned outdoor enthusiasts but also highlights the importance of conservation through its prize donation. Randall Williams' dynamic hosting and the guests' spirited interactions make for an entertaining and informative episode that underscores the podcast's commitment to celebrating and preserving the natural world.

Upcoming Tease: Listeners are encouraged to participate in future trivia by submitting their questions to trivia.com, with the promise of winning exclusive prizes like a board game signed by the crew.

Notable Quote:

Randall Williams [58:53]: "Join us next week for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins."

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Additional Highlights

• Humorous Banter: The episode is peppered with light-hearted jokes and playful teasing among the participants, enhancing the entertainment value.

  Example:

  Giannis [02:09]: "I just feel like the way this is written, Spencer, the way you wrote this made it sound like my episodes are bad."

• Personal Anecdotes: Participants share personal stories related to outdoor activities, such as fishing trips and experiences with hunting equipment, providing relatable content for the audience.

  Example:

  Brody [25:09]: "We walked with this fella down to the river. The next thing I know it's 2:00 in the morning and we've got a cooler full..."

• Educational Moments: Randall takes opportunities to educate listeners on topics like the Public Land Survey System and the history behind specific dishes like succotash and Salisbury steak.

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Listener Engagement: The episode fosters a sense of community by involving listeners through the submission of trivia questions and offering incentives for participation, thereby strengthening the podcast's interactive element.

Key Takeaway: The MeatEater Podcast continues to innovate by incorporating engaging formats like trivia games, effectively combining entertainment with education on topics central to outdoor enthusiasts and conservation advocates.

Transcript

[Turkey Hunter]

Turkey season is here and it's time to break out those calls. Every serious turkey hunter knows every bird is a little different. You never know what will get them going. You may need a trusty old box call, light purrs from a pot call, or maybe some sweet yelps from diaphragms to seal the deal on that old gobbler. But sometimes the hardest part isn't calling them in, it's finding them in the first place. That's where our locator calls come in. From crow calls to owl hooters. We we've got everything you need to get those shot gobbles out of those old toms unwilling to give up their position. Get fully geared up this season with the best tricky calls in the game. Check out the full lineup@phelpsgame calls.com and make every call count.

[Randall Williams]

It's a media podcast. Can we start the episode now?

[Spencer Newharth]

You mean like, are we recording the last one?

[Phil]

Yeah, Randall, we've been rolling for five minutes.

[Randall Williams]

Well, in that case, welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Randall Williams. Today we're joined by Spencer, Giannis, Brody, Cal, Tressa, Alyssa and Hansi. This is a ten round quiz show with questions. Thought we were doing a new finger.

[Phil]

Slipped on the light control here. Continue.

[Randall Williams]

I apologize.

[Alyssa]

Gotta put that epilepsy warning at the top of the.

[Randall Williams]

This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eater's four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. There is a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the Conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now, for the stat of the week. This week we're looking at player performance from previous episodes I've hosted. The average player score in those rounds was a 4.8, with the average winning score being an 8. That means Randall hosted episodes are slightly easier than Giannis hosted episodes.

[Giannis]

That's right.

[Randall Williams]

Which is good because Giannis's first two episodes were incredibly difficult to the point that they weren't very fun to play.

[Giannis]

Oh, wow. And no cooking questions.

[Randall Williams]

I just feel like the way this is written, Spencer, the way you wrote this made it sound like my episodes are bad. No, no, I think it should say that means Randall hosted episodes are just right.

[Giannis]

Okay, there you go. They're just right.

[Phil]

Call them the Goldilocks.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Are you going to have all four verticals this time? Because Giannis barely got two last time.

[Randall Williams]

And I'm going to introduce a new vertical today, actually.

[Giannis]

Okay, good.

[Randall Williams]

Now for the ifaq, here's Our infrequently asked question segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it to trivia.com with the subject line IFA. This one comes from Spencer Newharth says, what does it mean to be a randomal?

[Giannis]

Now Yanni thinks I'm always planting these questions, but here I am. I'm outright planting a question. Yannis, so what is a randomal?

[Randall Williams]

Well, I asked Phil to contemplate this. I was gonna reach out to the community. We're all in touch on Instagram. Phil, did you. Do you have an answer for us?

[Phil]

Oh, sure. This is the first thing I wrote up here. I said a randomal is an alpha who lives life not for the dest or the journey for the complete, but for the competition and hot dogs you crush along the way. A random is also keen enough to distinguish that from the journey.

[Giannis]

Okay, that's good.

[Randall Williams]

That's good. I wrote a few notes. I said they don't take themselves too seriously, but they don't like funny business when it comes to trivia. As I said, Randall, randomals like spelling things correctly. It's another point of emphasis for us. But I think they come from all walks of life. I think regionally speaking, most of them live within 100 to 150 miles of the Ohio River. Yeah, just people who like cased meat, professional basketball. There are a lot of, a lot of folks up out there who, who like guns. Like weird information about guns.

[Giannis]

So now we know there were people previously who didn't consider themselves random malls. Now that they just heard themselves described.

[Randall Williams]

It's a growing.

[Giannis]

I'm a.

[Randall Williams]

It's a real tribe. Yeah, we've had. I've actually. Giannis, do you have something?

[Brody]

Well, I'm gonna.

[Randall Williams]

I'm so happy that you.

[Brody]

That you reminded me that randomals love cased meat. You remember last week I mentioned that I hung out with Eli Cairo from Olympia Provisions? He sent me a box of meat. There's a lot of case meat in it. They make a product called the. I don't know if I'm gonna pronounce this properly. Hans, you might be to be able to help me. But it's casa kreiner, like K A with the umlau S E K R A I N E R. It's basically this lovely like very emulsified frankfurter thing, but it has Swiss cheese dotted in it. Not some high temp bullshit. Yeah, the real deal, I'm telling you. Set you free, buddy. I'm going to bring you a package. Let's do that.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, let's do that.

[Giannis]

Why is Hansi a subject matter expert on that?

[Brody]

On just pronunciation?

[Randall Williams]

He's a man of culture.

[Hansi]

German.

[Randall Williams]

Dershermeyer.

[Hansi]

Desheremeyer.

[Randall Williams]

Deschermeyer. Sorry.

[Hansi]

Everyone loves to put the R extra R in there.

[Randall Williams]

That's okay. Alan probably did you dirty. Yeah, yeah. I will note that, actually, randomals, I found Alan Dershowitz. It's the only Dershowitz name that I could think of. Sorry. That's stuff that randoms live for right there. But it's actually a real thing.

[Alyssa]

Flavor.

[Randall Williams]

It's a real thing. Randomal is a term I found out that refers to. It's an abbreviation of random animal. And when people are messing around with AI to generate strange creatures, apparently random is a term that they use to describe, like, they'll tell AI to make up like a tiger with scales.

[Spencer Newharth]

I thought it was just a category of people. You came up with that love hot dogs.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, I kind of started getting that. The more he's like, yo, it's a real thing, because I keep saying it over.

[Phil]

I did an escape room this weekend, and AI Generated randomals were a part of the escape room.

[Giannis]

Really?

[Randall Williams]

Whoa. Did you know. Did you know that they were randoms at the time?

[Phil]

No. I just learned this right now. My life's convertible.

[Randall Williams]

I learned that this morning.

[Giannis]

Did you escape, Phil?

[Phil]

We escaped, yes.

[Giannis]

I bet you're really good at escape room.

[Phil]

I mean, I've got a 1000 batting average on escape room, so.

[Giannis]

Good. Are you like, a team leader when that's happening?

[Phil]

It's a competition between me and my wife, Adrian, about who's the leader.

[Randall Williams]

I just.

[Alyssa]

You told me that you guys, you were taking the kids to an escape.

[Phil]

Oh, yeah. We shoved them aside and did it. Did it all by ourselves.

[Randall Williams]

No, I just panic in escape rooms. I don't like it. Now for some housekeeping.

[Giannis]

That's the difference between a randomal and a philistine.

[Randall Williams]

This one. This one is for the randomals out there. Now for some housekeeping. On episode 615, I asked a question about the fastest commercially produced rifle cartridge in the world, the.220 Swift. It was a tiebreaker question. In the flavor text, I said the following. A prototype quote. A prototype was developed in 1934 by a man named Grosvenor Watkins, who necked down the.25 3000 savage. Many, many people have written in to claim that I am wrong in this assertion, instead claiming that the.220 Swift is based on the 6 millimeter Lee Navy. And in fact, I'd like to let you know that both of us are correct. The version that was produced by Winchester for the commercial market was based on the 6 millimeter Lee Navy. And this comes from an article published by paul box on accurateshooter.com which is a tremendous website. The cartridge introduced by Winchester in 1935 for their Model 54 rifle. A year later it was added as a standard cartridge in the Model 70. And here's where it gets interesting. What might not be common knowledge to some reloaders is that the prototype for the Swift was developed in 193435 by Grosvenor Watkins by necking down the.250 Savage case. But in the end, Winchester chose the 6 millimeter Lee Navy. So I actually had more information about the development of this cartridge included in my flavor text, but I rushed through my reading after Particularly Contentious Game of Trivia yeah, if you'll recall, Steve and Cal were particularly upset about the confusing title of the film Lake Placid. So I rushed through what I had prepared just to end that episode.

[Alyssa]

I do recall.

[Randall Williams]

So for you careful listening cartridge aficionados out there, I apologize for my hasty summary.

[Spencer Newharth]

I like some housekeeping with those people.

[Randall Williams]

No, they're going to get you. Oh, they will get you.

[Giannis]

I like some housekeeping that's like six months old. Like that. Yeah, yeah, good throwback.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, we're still getting emails about it.

[Giannis]

That's right.

[Randall Williams]

Now the Sydney index for today's episode is a three, meaning that our winner should get six correct answers. But I think we can do better than that, gang. And now we're on to our game of trivia. Phil, please play the drop.

[Phil]

Oh, I got a please.

[Giannis]

People write in with that that I don't say.

[Phil]

Please shout out to the Philistines.

[Alyssa]

Try Philanthropes on precise.

[Brody]

I like that.

[Randall Williams]

Game on, suckers. Question 1 this is our multiple choice question in the category of public lands. What river is the only major river system entirely contained within the state of Nevada and shares its name with the largest national forest outside of Alaska? Your options are A Elko B Humboldt C Reno 4. Winnemucca and I'll read this once again for those out there playing it along. What river is the only major river system entirely contained within the state of Nevada and shares its name with the largest national forest outside of Alaska? We have an answer from Brody. Lots of folks still chewing on this one. Giannis is writing something Cal's contemplating. Spencer's writing. Guys want to. Guys got any thoughts? Any chit chat about this question I like this question.

[Giannis]

I don't know it, but I like this one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Hansi, this question.

[Giannis]

You know what, Hansi?

[Hansi]

I think I do.

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Alyssa]

Oh.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, Hansi. I thought you hadn't written something, but you have a double sided.

[Hansi]

I got one of those tricky boards.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. I've never realized how confusing that might be for a host. Yeah.

[Giannis]

You lived in Nevada for a minute, right?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Hansi]

Well, I worked in Nevada, but I lived in Truckee, so.

[Spencer Newharth]

So this. This river starts and terminates in the state of Nevada river system.

[Randall Williams]

Yes. Well, it. Brody's correct. If you'll recall, Nevada is part of the Great Basin.

[Brody]

It's interesting that you can give us a tip within the question. And it's still not a gimme.

[Randall Williams]

I liked this question.

[Brody]

I do.

[Randall Williams]

It was a last. I do say it was the last minute. It was the last minute. I actually. I was fact checking one of my questions earlier and I thought it was too tricky to make a hard determination one way or the other, so I came up with this one and then decided it was too hard, made it multiple choice and removed a clue as to the number of letters in the answer. And I didn't screw that up like I did when my first question was gallery for changing.

[Spencer Newharth]

Did you follow that?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I just quit paying attention.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's what I meant.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, sourpuss.

[Alyssa]

Cow. It was pretty pleasant. I quit listening. I was still happy.

[Randall Williams]

Do we all have answers? Why don't we flip them over, gang? Giannis says Humboldt. Cal says Elko. Alyssa says Elko. Trista says Humboldt. Spencer says Winnemucca. Hande says Humboldt. Brody says Humboldt. We have a handful of correct answers in the room. It's the Humboldt River. The Humboldt river originates in the Ruby Mountains of northeastern Nevada and flows westward for approximately 300 miles before ending in the Humboldt Sink. It was an important water source for emigrants traveling the California trail during the 19th century. This river shares its name with the Humboldt Taibe National Forest, which spans over 6 million acres across Nevada and eastern California. Both the river and the forest were named after Alexander von Humboldt, a Prussian naturalist and explorer who also has named after him a squid, a penguin, a glacier, a peak, and an ocean current.

[Hansi]

That is a hell of a collection. Across the Gambit, there's a wonderful book.

[Randall Williams]

Called the Humboldt Current and it's a history of Alexander von Humboldt's life and his influence on natural thinking.

[Giannis]

Good for him. Jealous?

[Alyssa]

I learned something good.

[Brody]

Randalls. You've already crushed my hosting from the last episode. One question.

[Alyssa]

It's just very different styles.

[Randall Williams]

You haven't heard. Question two.

[Brody]

I'm excited.

[Randall Williams]

Question two comes to us in the category of cooking. What dish created by an American physician to combat malnutrition during the Civil War, consists of ground beef mixed with seasonings formed into a patty, and is typically served with gravy? I'll read that. Once again, we're looking for a dish that was created by an American physician to combat malnutrition during the Civil War, and it consists of ground beef mixed with seasonings formed into a patty, and is typically served with gravy.

[Alyssa]

Alyssa, I literally just watched in real time, inspiration strike.

[Randall Williams]

You ever make one of these, Cal.

[Alyssa]

Based off of that?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yes, some version of that.

[Randall Williams]

Do you know the answer?

[Alyssa]

I have an answer.

[Giannis]

Now that you said one of these, though, that changes my answer, I think.

[Randall Williams]

Well, have you ever made this?

[Giannis]

Right? But you wouldn't say, like, have you ever made one of these? And the answer was spaghetti, so.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that's true.

[Giannis]

I got it.

[Alyssa]

Like, listen, you go down to. On Main street, right? You go to the Cowboy cafe down there or the Western Cafe every single day, on the special board, you're gonna see hamburger steak for breakfast.

[Giannis]

Huh?

[Spencer Newharth]

Would you like that with gravy?

[Alyssa]

Like, I mean, what are you doing?

[Brody]

He's already cutting down your question before you've given the answer.

[Randall Williams]

I want to see. Does anybody else have an answer? There's any.

[Brody]

I have one. I'm going with what my gut. With what my gut. With what my gut's saying.

[Randall Williams]

Does anybody. I mean, yeah. Damn.

[Giannis]

I saw Cal's board. I can't write that.

[Randall Williams]

What are you doing to my game? I asked to see his board.

[Alyssa]

I'm a people pleaser.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's totally fine as long as you don't change your answer.

[Randall Williams]

I'm not changing it. The double sided whiteboards are getting me again.

[Phil]

It really burns.

[Randall Williams]

Eva, Spencer's writing here.

[Brody]

Oh, and random.

[Randall Williams]

All right, let's flip them over, gang. Giannis says chuck steak. Cal says Salisbury steak.

[Brody]

Alyssa says cube steak.

[Randall Williams]

Tressa says burger.

[Alyssa]

I like Spencer's S O. Spencer says.

[Randall Williams]

S word on a shingle.

[Alyssa]

But that's chipped beef.

[Randall Williams]

Hansi says chipped beef. I like cows with toast. S word on a shingle. And Brody says Salisbury steak.

[Brody]

Dang it.

[Randall Williams]

The correct answer is Salisbury steak or hamburger steak.

[Brody]

Not Chuck steak, not cube steak.

[Randall Williams]

I.

[Giannis]

Well.

[Phil]

Note that there's gravy on top.

[Spencer Newharth]

Stick your guns, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

Phil, do you want to do a quick fact check? Okay, but.

[Phil]

But Chuck and cube steak are there. That has nothing to do with the. With the Preparation.

[Alyssa]

Right.

[Phil]

Of putting gravy on it. As far as.

[Alyssa]

No, you can deep fat fry cube steak, and then you got chicken fried steak.

[Randall Williams]

Cube steak is mechanically tenderized. Cuff of. This is what AI says it says. It's not the same thing.

[Brody]

What about Chuck?

[Spencer Newharth]

Chuck's just a steak from the Chuck, ain't it?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Alyssa]

Yep.

[Randall Williams]

No, they're not the same. AI says. Once again. Yeah. Chuck steak is just a cut of beef from the shoulder.

[Phil]

You use cube steak to make chicken fried steak, or you can use it to make Salisbury steak.

[Spencer Newharth]

I just made some.

[Randall Williams]

Now, the Salisbury steak was created by Dr. James Henry Salisbury. Oftentimes people think it's named after Salisbury, England, but Salisbury was an American physician who developed it during the Civil War as a remedy for soldiers suffering from chronic diarrhea and other ailments.

[Spencer Newharth]

Huh.

[Randall Williams]

Dr. Salisbury? Because when I'm suffering from chronic diarrhea, the first thing I do is make a beef patty with gravy. Believe that vegetables and starchy foods produce toxins in the digestive system. And advocated for a meat centered diet. He referred to the ground beef patties as, quote, a muscle pulp of beef. And advocated for a meat based. I already said that. And he suggested that it should be eaten three times a day.

[Giannis]

Whoa.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Brody]

The first Paleo.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Giannis]

Trust your doctors.

[Alyssa]

But like, SOS Is like a military food staple.

[Brody]

Yeah.

[Giannis]

I think that was like a Navy food.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, yeah, you may have said this. Was he a Yang thing on a shingle?

[Hansi]

Yeah, I believe they were one in the same. But yeah, Salisbury steak and Swiss steak always kind of go. I feel like, interchangeably to me too.

[Randall Williams]

I feel like Swiss steak is like. I feel like Salisbury steak is typically with like a brown gravy, whereas Swiss steak is more of like a white.

[Alyssa]

But then, like, enter schnitzel.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Alyssa]

So, I mean, it's all.

[Randall Williams]

And hamburger steak really fell out of favor. Hey, Phil.

[Spencer Newharth]

Has this going on long enough?

[Phil]

I'm not hosting the show.

[Randall Williams]

Brody. I feel like we're on time right now.

[Phil]

We're doing great.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. World War I, the anti German sentiment led to a lot of people abandoning the term hamburger steak. So question three. This is in the category of America. This question comes to us from Justin Fay of Cincinnati, Ohio.

[Giannis]

Oh, thanks.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, he knows. He knows how to get me to read his question. In what state do you find the northwest angle, the northernmost spot in the lower 48. In what state do you find the northwest angle, which is the northernmost spot, in the lower 48?

[Phil]

Randall, as someone who doesn't care about the NBA or, with all due respect, the state of Ohio. Can I still be considered a randomal?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, of course.

[Phil]

Okay, thank you.

[Randall Williams]

That's the thing, is people from all walks of life are joining the movement. It could be. Could be. You like movies? I mean, there's a lot of people that just enjoy movies.

[Phil]

It's very inclusive. But aren't you afraid that if you kind of expand the parameters too far, then it doesn't make it special or not at all? No, no.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, I think there's obviously certain types of people that could never be randomals.

[Giannis]

Like a racist?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, exactly.

[Phil]

You heard it first. No racist allowed.

[Giannis]

We're anti racist in the randomal movement.

[Randall Williams]

And I feel like you have to. You can't be incur. You know?

[Phil]

That's nice.

[Randall Williams]

I feel like. I feel like you just have to be open to the world.

[Giannis]

What about. Can you be Canadian?

[Randall Williams]

Absolutely.

[Giannis]

Can you be a woman?

[Randall Williams]

Absolutely.

[Giannis]

Okay. Is your wife a randomal?

[Randall Williams]

Not really. I think she's.

[Phil]

Well, she's actually a horrific racist.

[Randall Williams]

No, she. She. She said to me the other day, she said, I'm the original random. Oh, isn't that sweet?

[Giannis]

That is.

[Randall Williams]

Did that really happen? Leave that up to the viewers at home. I see we all have answers. Why don't we flip them over, Gang? Giannis says Maine. Cal says Washington. Alyssa says Maine. Tressa says Maine. Spencer, Minnesota. Hanzi, Minnesota. Brody, Maine. We have a correct answer in the room. It's Minnesota. This unique geographic feature is actually separated from the rest of Minnesota by lake of the woods, and you can only reach it by boat or by traveling through Canada. The northwest angle extends into Canadian territory and is the result of a surveying error during border negotiations between the United States and Great Britain in the late 18th century. I don't think that's correct. I think it's early 19th century. The northwest angle reaches to about 49 degrees, 23 minutes north latitude, making it the only part of the contiguous United States that extends north of the 49th parallel.

[Giannis]

Good for us. Glad we got that little.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Interestingly enough, when we were working on the. When we were working on the landlocked report for TRCP and Onx, the algorithm flagged all of that as inaccessible, landlocked public lands because you couldn't get there by the road system.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, as soon as Canada becomes the 51st state, that line's gonna move.

[Randall Williams]

Let's not get into politics on this episode of the program, Brody.

[Alyssa]

Shouldn't it be called the north central angle?

[Randall Williams]

Depends what you're talking about. It being in Relation to.

[Alyssa]

Well, yeah, exactly. Context. Come on. Northwest of what?

[Randall Williams]

Question four, fishing St. Paul.

[Tressa]

If you've hung around with a lot of old turkey hunters, you have no doubt encountered those little plaques where you take a turkey's leg and foot and bend its fingers and dry its finger. So the turkey's giving you the bird. It's funny because it's like the bird, but he's giving you the bird. Well, check this out. We just made a turkey call called the Bird, and the artwork is a turkey's foot giving you the bird. Not only does it look great, it sounds great. This is a call that idiots can make good turkey sounds on. It's got a machined, polished and engraved acrylic pot. It's got an anodized and laser engraved tone board in a crystal playing surface. But the artwork is under the crystal. So when you're scratching your little prep spot, and there's a perfect place for a little prep spot without ruining the artwork. When you're scratching your surface, you're not scratching off the artwork. It's got a diamond wood peg with an acrylic topped striker. Again, this is like, it's just a very easy to use pot call. You'll sit down, you'll scratch a little spot. You're going to make great turkey sounds. Trust me. Find your new turkey pot call and a full assortment of meat eater and Phelps turkey calls at Phelps Game calls dot com.

[Randall Williams]

What Turquoise Blue river, which the Alaska Department of Fish and Game calls, quote, the most heavily fished river in the 49th state, produced the world record angler caught king salmon in 1985. Again, we're looking for a Turquoise Blue river that Alaska Department of Fish and Game calls the most heavily fished river in the state. And it produced the world record angler caught king salmon in 1985. Quick answers from Brody, from Giannis. Hansi's writing. Cal is in a deep meditative state.

[Alyssa]

Well, I've fished the damn thing and I can't remember the name.

[Brody]

Are you sure?

[Randall Williams]

Where were you?

[Brody]

Hmm.

[Randall Williams]

I'm just trying to stir up some.

[Alyssa]

Oh, Alaska.

[Randall Williams]

Put yourself back in your wading boots for a moment.

[Spencer Newharth]

Ah.

[Randall Williams]

This is this river, Turquoise Blue, the most heavily fished river in Alaska, and it produced the world record angler caught king salmon in 1985.

[Spencer Newharth]

Got an answer, Giannis?

[Brody]

I do.

[Giannis]

Have you been there, Yanni?

[Brody]

I have.

[Randall Williams]

Spencer's got an answer. Hansi got an answer. Oh, I see you've added a star. I'm trying.

[Hansi]

I'm trying to help you.

[Randall Williams]

I know.

[Hansi]

Yeah, I think that Give you a hand.

[Randall Williams]

That does help. Thank you. Have you been. Yeah. I was gonna say Tressa probably has an answer on this one.

[Brody]

I've got a great little story.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, and Alyssa, about the.

[Brody]

The old river.

[Alyssa]

Oh, this is brutal.

[Giannis]

Randall was actually going to throw it to you for the flavor text.

[Randall Williams]

I can.

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Why don't I do that? I don't have much to add. I was gonna. Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, I got some flavor text for you.

[Randall Williams]

Good. Oh, this is lovely.

[Brody]

Back from my angling days.

[Randall Williams]

Cal's got a marker to a whiteboard here. Always tapping it.

[Brody]

Yeah.

[Alyssa]

Yeah.

[Brody]

There's no writing going on.

[Spencer Newharth]

I think you can just write in front of everyone now. Oh, you're just messing.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, yeah, I'm just burning through marker like they're free. Ramble.

[Randall Williams]

Oh. Oh. We're gonna cut back on the swearing on kids.

[Brody]

Friendly.

[Randall Williams]

When I was looking for. When I was looking for listener questions, I came across an email asking us not to swear so that the children can listen. And I think that's a fair point.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, let's curb their growth by keeping them insulated from the real world. Good parenting.

[Randall Williams]

I'm a guilty party myself, so, you know, Cal, are we gonna get there or are we gonna.

[Spencer Newharth]

There's only a few rivers in Alaska.

[Alyssa]

Just go.

[Randall Williams]

Just go.

[Brody]

It's gonna. Really?

[Randall Williams]

Giannis, it says there you go. Kenai. Alyssa says Jewel. Dress says Kootenay. I think I meant Spencer says Mackenzie. Hansi says Yukon. And Brody says Kenai.

[Phil]

Wait, so what did Cal say?

[Brody]

Kenai.

[Randall Williams]

The correct answer is the Kenai. This record breaking.

[Alyssa]

I wrote nothing, Phil.

[Phil]

Thanks.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. This record breaking king salmon was caught by angler Les Anderson. It weighed 97 pounds, 4 ounces, and that's 44.1 kilograms for our international friends. The Kenai river is famous for its distinctive blue color, which comes from glacial silt, and for its exceptional salmon runs. It's located on the Kenai Peninsula, and Giannis has something to add.

[Brody]

We spent almost a year living in Fairbanks, and my in laws flew over to explore a little bit of Alaska. We did a trip down onto the Kenai Peninsula, did some backpacking, fished the Anchor River a little bit, and just sort of as a stopover, we said, oh, we'll rent a little cabin on the Kenai. We'll relax a little bit, take showers after, you know, our adventures, and then get up to the Anchorage and get a flight out. Well, we get there, and the dude that owns the cabin lives right next door, and he's. When we get there, he's like, hey, you guys like to fish. And my brother and I are like what else do we do in life? You know? He's like well the sockeye are just screaming, screaming right now. Come on. I've got rods and everything we need. And we're like oh. And we literally didn't even take gear into the cabin. We walk with this fella down to the river. The next thing I know it's 2:00 in the morning and we've got a cooler full. My brother in law quit fishing. I was snagging and just throwing them to him. He was filleting them and just putting them into the cooler. And by I think we went to bed somewhere between 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning. It was a great fishing experience. So no rest? No, no. I might have got a quick shower but it was quite fun.

[Spencer Newharth]

There are many people who feel that this record king salmon record world record will fall to a fisher to a. To a non native king salmon fishery in South America right now.

[Randall Williams]

Really Interesting. Interesting.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yep. You may have seen videos of like.

[Randall Williams]

These 80 oh yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Pounders that are being caught down there. They think the next world record is coming from down there.

[Randall Williams]

Trustee, you were very close but you added oot in the middle of artificial.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's artificial. I think like probably derived from maybe from farming or just introduced fish. And I think I could be wrong on this. I think those fish are coming out of the Atlantic Ocean, not the Pacific.

[Randall Williams]

Interesting question 5. This question is in the category of gear or maritime freight. What is the busiest port on the Great Lakes which shares its name with a square roll top backpack designed to fit in the bottom of canoes? What is the busiest port on the Great Lakes which shares its name with a square roll top backpack designed to fit in the bottom of canoes?

[Brody]

Oh, stumper.

[Randall Williams]

Randall, Anybody do some.

[Alyssa]

If only Carl were here.

[Randall Williams]

Some backcountry canoe trips. Real staple of the Northwoods.

[Alyssa]

What the hell are those things?

[Randall Williams]

Just think about your start going through your gl. Your Great Lakes ports, your major ports. That's a hint. I study those all the time. I just threw that in because I thought it was a fun tidbit. Question is actually about the packs Spencer's writing. Hansi, do you have an answer?

[Hansi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Randall Williams]

I'm not confident about it but Spencer's got an answer.

[Giannis]

Not confident either. Don't know if this is a point.

[Randall Williams]

Not many canoe trippers here.

[Giannis]

Backpack. This might be a zero percenter.

[Randall Williams]

I don't think so. I think someone's got it in them.

[Giannis]

All These Great Lakes boys in here.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Canoe packs, they fit right in the bottom of your canoe. They're all square.

[Giannis]

Wow.

[Randall Williams]

Roll tops. And I'll read this again because I'm not sure if I read it again. What is the busiest port on the Great Lakes, which shares its name with a square roll top backpack designed to fit in the bottom of canoes? There's some listeners right now.

[Alyssa]

Oh, just jumping out of their pants.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Losing it.

[Alyssa]

They would portage their way here and deliver the message if they could.

[Randall Williams]

Do you have an answer, Cal?

[Alyssa]

It's the wrong answer. You know, it's like this goo. Like we can't tell you how far it is. We have to tell you how far in rods, that type of culture, you know, like. Well, is it a mile?

[Randall Williams]

Like.

[Alyssa]

Well, it's 16 rods. Just drives me insane. Don't like it.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Brody suffering.

[Spencer Newharth]

Are we waiting on me?

[Randall Williams]

No, I think Giannis, Cal and Brody.

[Brody]

I can just. They ain't gonna get it.

[Alyssa]

I got it.

[Brody]

Not having.

[Alyssa]

Never mind.

[Giannis]

They ain't got it.

[Alyssa]

Okay, ready?

[Brody]

Well, I'm gonna. I'm gonna Write something down.

[Alyssa]

1, 2, 3.

[Randall Williams]

Go flip them over, gang. Giannis says Detroit. Cal says Duluth. Alyssa says Port. Dry bag. Dry. Spencer says Marias. Hansi says Port Huron. And Brody says Milwaukee. We have a correct answer. The answer is Duluth.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, dang it.

[Randall Williams]

Duluth. Duluth Trading Company, too.

[Alyssa]

Duluth. Duluth. Duluth is on fire.

[Brody]

That's a busy port.

[Alyssa]

I didn't think it was a busy port.

[Randall Williams]

The port of Duluth Superior, located where Lake Superior meets the St. Louis river at the western tip of the Great Lakes, handles more cargo by tonnage than any other Great Lakes.

[Alyssa]

Oh, by tonnage.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, it's.

[Phil]

Cuz it's.

[Alyssa]

It's iron.

[Giannis]

Everything west, shipping a lot of iron.

[Hansi]

Ore, taconite pellets and like.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah, coal, grain and other commodities like that. The Duluth Pack is a square roll top backpack or bag originally designed to fit in the bottom of canoes. It's a classic piece of outdoor equipment that dates back to 1882, when it was created by Camille Poirier in Duluth, Minnesota. These packs are known for their durability and have become iconic in canoe camping and wilderness exploration, particularly in the Boundary Waters region.

[Alyssa]

There's a great, great restaurant next to the Duluth Pack Company in Duluth that has its own, like, smokehouse for Lake Superior whitefish.

[Hansi]

I know what you're talking about.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, it's killer. And lake trout. Oh, man.

[Randall Williams]

Well, gang, I thought. I thought we'd do better on that. I'm glad it wasn't a zero percenter. We're now halfway through our game of trivia, and that means it's time for a scoreboard update from Phil the engineer.

[Alyssa]

Oh, my God. Hey, if. Hold on one second on Duluth.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Alyssa]

Hey, listeners.

[Randall Williams]

Tbt.

[Alyssa]

My cousin is going through med school. She's in Duluth. She needs a job. Just talking.

[Randall Williams]

So if you own a hospital.

[Alyssa]

Well, I mean, she just needs to make money. So bakery just so happens right in. Let me know. I was just talking to my uncle about this. She needs a job.

[Randall Williams]

Isn't that isn't trampled by from Duluth?

[Alyssa]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can get her concert tickets.

[Giannis]

Also, Frank Lloyd Wright, like, one of the most famous architects in the world. His only gas station I think is located.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, we need to move it along, Spencer.

[Giannis]

Oh, I like mine better.

[Randall Williams]

Phil, take me up speed on this scoreboard.

[Phil]

I'd love to. Alyssa, you are on the board with zero points. Tressa and Spencer have one point a piece. Giannis, Cal, and Hansi are all tied up with two. And the only person that's lining up with the Sydney index so far is Brody Henderson. He has three points at halftime.

[Randall Williams]

Interesting. Gang.

[Alyssa]

How does a guy not remember the Kenai?

[Randall Williams]

It's competitive here. It's a competitive game. I'm really excited. For the second half. Question six comes to us in the category of hunting. What classic hunting bullet, first tested by John Nosler in 1947, gets its name from the internal structure that divides its two lead cores. What classic hunting bullet, first tested by John Nosler in 1947, gets its name from the internal structure that divides its two lead cores.

[Brody]

Shot a couple critters. They sold bullet myself.

[Spencer Newharth]

Still a great bullet.

[Randall Williams]

It is a great bullet. Cal, do you have an answer?

[Alyssa]

Until you guys said great bullet.

[Randall Williams]

Don't besmirch John Nosler's legacy here, Cal. It's tried and true.

[Brody]

I can, I think, recount his story of what made him the hunt that made him want to come up with this bullet.

[Randall Williams]

I'll let you do the flavor text, and then I'll check it against my flavor text. This is a fun little game of having other people do the flavor text.

[Alyssa]

Boy, having a hard time with that. Maybe I'm having aneurysm or something.

[Phil]

John Nosler would be a great name for like. And that would have been in a 70s adult movie.

[Alyssa]

And John Nosler, how do you think he got his seed money for the bullet company? Very legitimate seed money. Legitimate entendre. Maybe this is a good kids episode. What were you saying, Alyssa?

[Randall Williams]

I Don't know this one. I tried to get Sydney. I tried to lead her into this one.

[Brody]

God, I hope your son's not gonna say, mom, this is what I shot my giant bull with.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, well, that was a big hint. No, but it's not.

[Brody]

Oh, you know, no, but I'm just.

[Randall Williams]

Thinking about how far away that bull was.

[Alyssa]

It wouldn't have been a good choice.

[Randall Williams]

It wouldn't have been a good choice. Although they are. The front half is a little splashy.

[Brody]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Uh huh.

[Spencer Newharth]

Spencer's still right?

[Randall Williams]

No idea. Excuse me. I didn't mean to clear my throat into the microphone.

[Phil]

Well, Steve really opened the dam on that one.

[Randall Williams]

We're living in a new world.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Spencer.

[Giannis]

Yeah, dad. Done.

[Randall Williams]

Are we ready to flip them over? Flip them over, gang. Giannis, show it to me. Partition. Cal says partition. Alyssa, no answer. Tressa, the Nosler. Spencer, no answer. No answer. Hansi says nosler. Partition. Brody says partition. The correct answer is partition. Never heard of it. Me either.

[Brody]

Yeah, I believe John Nosler was shooting at a mud caked moose, if I remember correctly, and was wailing away and nothing was dying. And I can't remember if he recovered that moose or not, but he came home and said, I gotta make something better.

[Randall Williams]

Shot it seven times on a moose in British Columbia with a 300H&H, mind you. The partition gets its name from the unique internal copper partition that separates the front and rear lead cores of the bullet. This innovative design was revolutionary for hunting ammunition because it allowed for controlled expansion while maintaining weight retention. The front core is designed to expand upon impact for tissue damage, while the partition prevents the bullet from breaking apart completely. The rear core remains intact and ensures deep penetration and energy transfer.

[Alyssa]

I would take the accubond over the partition 1000% of the time.

[Randall Williams]

I've killed a lot of stuff with accubonds. Killed my first elk with a partition.

[Alyssa]

I killed one of my first partitions. Actually.

[Randall Williams]

It resembled John Nosler's scenario.

[Alyssa]

Yeah. And the fact that the bullet breaks apart was the thing that made me be like, I don't want to shoot.

[Spencer Newharth]

But it doesn't. Only the front end breaks apart.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, but I found a pedal that peeled off and literally like tumbled down the loin. And I was like, oh, this defeated the purpose of killing this deer.

[Spencer Newharth]

I don't know. Bullet's been around for.

[Randall Williams]

I shot my first.

[Spencer Newharth]

How long?

[Brody]

People are still shooting.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, I shot my first meat retention.

[Randall Williams]

130 grain partitions out of a 270. Shot it a lot of times.

[Hansi]

Salisbury steak fans.

[Alyssa]

Salisbury steak. Exactly.

[Randall Williams]

Pre ground question 7. This comes to us from the realm of woodsmanship. And I'm going to use the word realm again in this question. In the realm of wilderness medicine, what do the letters HA stand for in acronyms like the conditions HACE and hape, which occur to travelers in mountainous terrain? What do the letters HA stand for in acronyms like HACE and hape, which occur to travelers in mountainous terrain? See some writing on the boards here.

[Hansi]

I can tell you the last two letters.

[Randall Williams]

Can you really?

[Hansi]

But I can't remember the first few.

[Randall Williams]

Well, we'll.

[Hansi]

That doesn't get me any points, but.

[Randall Williams]

You can do flavor text if you've maybe seen the movie K2 with Chris O'Donnell. Ah.

[Hansi]

Oh, I got. I gotcha. Gotcha.

[Randall Williams]

This. This condition plays a prominent role in the plot of that movie, along with the drug dexamethasone. She's a corticosteroid.

[Giannis]

That'd be the first time I'm confident. I'm not even that confident.

[Randall Williams]

I think. Do we all. Brody's writing? No, Cal's. Cal's reconsidering his answer.

[Giannis]

It's question seven, Phil.

[Randall Williams]

It is Chris O'Donnell in K2, isn't it?

[Phil]

You're asking the wrong guy.

[Randall Williams]

All right.

[Giannis]

I'd say he's asking exactly the right guy.

[Phil]

No.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Why don't we.

[Brody]

In this room.

[Randall Williams]

Are we ready to flip our boards over, Cal?

[Brody]

Sure.

[Alyssa]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Flip them over. Gang. Giannis, everybody except for Tressa says high altitude.

[Hansi]

I like hasty, though.

[Randall Williams]

I like hasty, too. The correct answer is high altitude. Hansi, what are the other two letters?

[Hansi]

Pulmonary edema and cerebral edema. Yeah, cerebral edema.

[Randall Williams]

Okay.

[Alyssa]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

High altitude cerebral edema and high altitude pulmonary edema are serious medical conditions that can affect people traveling in mountainous regions. Both haste and HAPE are potentially life threatening and can develop when people ascend to high elevations too quickly without proper acclimatization. Haste involves swelling of brain tissue due to fluid leakage, while HAPE involves fluid accumulation in the lungs. Both require immediate medical attention and descent to lower elevations.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, but that's the beauty is, like, you get them to lower elevations, that's the first.

[Randall Williams]

First thing nature provides the cure.

[Phil]

It looks like Chris O'Donnell was not in K2. The ultimate high. Michael. A bunch of people who are just not in the public consciousness anymore. But Michael Bean, Matt Craven is Chris.

[Randall Williams]

ODonnell in any sort of mountain movie.

[Phil]

You know, I'll do some more research. Check back in with me later.

[Randall Williams]

I. I can just picture Chris O'Donnell up in the mountains.

[Giannis]

Hmm.

[Randall Williams]

In any event, question eight, in the realm of fishing, what is the common term for a four sided lead weight with a point at one end, often used by shore anglers for fishing stationary baits. What is the common term for a four sided lead weight with a point at one end, often used by shore anglers for fishing stationary baits? Quick answer out of Brody. I put this one for question eight instead of question ten.

[Spencer Newharth]

I see that.

[Randall Williams]

To keep things interesting, an answer from Spencer here.

[Phil]

Randall, you were thinking of the film Vertical Limit.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Bill Paxton's also.

[Randall Williams]

I knew that. God. Embarrassing.

[Alyssa]

We can't forget cliffhanger amongst that genre.

[Hansi]

Yeah.

[Alyssa]

That's a fantastic one.

[Hansi]

It is.

[Alyssa]

And then what's the Clint Eastwood mountain climbing movie where they.

[Hansi]

The Eiger Sanction.

[Alyssa]

There it is. That's a killer one.

[Hansi]

Screaming.

[Randall Williams]

Good one.

[Alyssa]

Yep.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. And then they made. They made it. The more recent one is a movie of Everest about the. Jon KRAKAUER about the 96 Everest disaster, but I never saw it.

[Phil]

I think I had a pretty stacked cast.

[Randall Williams]

Stacked cast.

[Alyssa]

Oh, yeah, it's got Jake G in there.

[Randall Williams]

It's loaded.

[Phil]

Benicio Del Toro might be in it. I don't know.

[Randall Williams]

Who plays Beck Weathers?

[Alyssa]

Is it? Well, Jake Gyllenhaal's in there.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, Beck Weathers is. I don't think he plays old Beck, but it's a good actor. Trust me. I trust you, Phil, you're on IMDb right now. Yeah. In the meantime, why don't we flip over our boards, gang? Giannis says pyramid, Cal says Beermid, List says dead weight, Tressa says crank, Spencer says pyramid, Hansi says pyramid, and Brody says pyramid. The correct answer is pyramid. Shore anglers typically use pyramid sinkers because the pointed design helps anchor the weight in sand or mud, preventing it from rolling in surf or current. This allows for more stationary bait presentation while fishing from beaches, piers or banks. I have lost a great number of pyramid sinkers by snagging them on the bottom of the Little Miami River. Guys, you guys ever use pyramid sinkers?

[Hansi]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that's. I feel like that's something the host does.

[Giannis]

The Little Miami. That's in Ohio, right?

[Randall Williams]

Yes.

[Brody]

Yes.

[Giannis]

What are you catching there? Catfish.

[Randall Williams]

Catfish? Oh, anything you want. Catfish, carp, drum.

[Giannis]

That's not quite anything I want.

[Randall Williams]

Phil, what are we doing on Beck Weathers?

[Phil]

Well, I'm looking up the cast for the 2015 film Everest just because I remember there being a lot of. It was Josh Brolin. I was thinking I was giving some.

[Randall Williams]

Sicario plays Beck Weathers, Jason Clark. Hot nights, lost his nose. Phil, we've got two questions left. How about a scoreboard update, as is customary and in fact required by Spencer's hosting guidelines?

[Phil]

I would love to, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

Whoa. Look at this game.

[Phil]

Everyone's on the board. Alyssa and Tressa have one board. Spencer fallen from the last game. He's got three. But the players left in the game after question eight are Giannis, Cal, and Hansi with five, and Brody Henderson in first place with six points.

[Randall Williams]

Now, for those of you following along at home, my average winning answer score is an 8. So if Brody gets the next two questions correct, we'll be hitting that right on the nose.

[Giannis]

All right, that's.

[Randall Williams]

That's what you look for in a host. Just solid, reliable. Question nine. Yep. Spencer, question nine. This. This is in the realm of public lands. Under the public land survey System, how many 640 acre sections make up a township? Under the public land survey System, how many 640 acre sections make up a township? A lot of stumped faces in the room, Phil. Who did Gyllenhaal play?

[Phil]

He played Scott Fisher.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah. Under the public land survey System, how many 604 acre sections make up a township?

[Giannis]

No.

[Randall Williams]

Guys, ever. You ever turned on the township, the section township range filter on your Onyx?

[Alyssa]

Yes.

[Giannis]

No. But before Onx, like, got to the states that I really cared about, I owned a stock of a stack of plat books. Like, those were so valuable to me. That's what I'd asked for for Christmas. So did Santa. Usually did pretty good. They're still somewhere around, but then Onyx made them irrelevant.

[Randall Williams]

What did the Santa at the mall kind of look did he give you when you showed up with a list of quadrangle maps?

[Giannis]

Say, what's a plat book? So I'm guessing based on that, but I don't know.

[Randall Williams]

Spencer, Hansi, Brody have answers? Oh, Hansi doesn't have an answer. God, the reversible whiteboard got me again. Giannis has an answer.

[Alyssa]

Cal, I wrote something down.

[Randall Williams]

He's got something down. I'm thinking Tress and Alyssa.

[Giannis]

I'm nostalgic for those plat book days that made it a lot harder to track down the right person. But you can't beat on X.

[Randall Williams]

Well, gang, Hansi, you know, okay, fine. I'm not trying to pressure you. I just. I feel like earlier. I feel like when we were two questions in this episode, people were giving me a hard time for taking too long. And now we're at question nine, and I'M really feeling the heat. Yeah. Well, although I think this has gone.

[Brody]

Well because I hosted so long, we're running into lunchtime, and I think you're getting a little hanger response.

[Randall Williams]

I've got some. I've got some meatballs upstairs I'm gonna dig into. Gochu Chang meatballs.

[Brody]

I've got some Mallard duck legs.

[Randall Williams]

Why don't we flip them over? Gang. Giannis says 100. Cal says 10. Alyssa, 1. Tressa 1. Spencer, 32. Hanzi, 24. Brody, 25. Gang. That's a zero percenter. Real close. The answer is 36. Under the public land survey system established by the land Ordinance of 1785, a township contains 36 sections, with each section being 100, or, excuse me, 640 acres. The standard township is 6 miles by 6 miles square. It's divided into 30. I already said that. Sections within a township are numbered in a specific pattern, starting with section one in the northeast corner and then proceeding west to section 6, then south and east to section 12, then west to section 18, and so on in alternating patterns with section 36 being in the southeast corner. Now, what's interesting to know is that states received certain numbers of sections from each township as state trust lands to support public education and other designated beneficiaries.

[Giannis]

It was it like 16 and 32?

[Randall Williams]

Well, it's different between the states. The next sentence. These allotments varied and became increasingly more generous as new states were admitted to the union. For instance, Congress granted Montana and Idaho section 16 and 36 of each township, while New Mexico and Arizona received 2. 16, 32 and 36.

[Giannis]

So as the country grew west, I think Ohio was a bad example of, like, they sold all their school lands almost immediately. And so then they're like, all right, we gotta make sure folks have these things and use them. And so that was how the school trust lands came about.

[Randall Williams]

And I would say some of us, us, meaning Americans, are still trying to get rid of these school trust lands as we speak.

[Giannis]

School trust land trust lands are a little weird in that I think their objective is to, like, make as much money as possible, which can lead to things like sales. If they decide, like, that our best use of this thing would be to sell it. I. You know, certain states, the way they're. They're.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. They're obligated to manage them for maximum yield. Yeah, yeah.

[Giannis]

So it's unique versus the other public lands. We're familiar.

[Alyssa]

Like, if your brain functions in a way to where you're like, land doesn't grow in Value. We're making more land, I'm sure, somewhere.

[Giannis]

Sure.

[Alyssa]

Then it makes sense to sell. If you can wrap your head around that.

[Brody]

I thought you didn't want to get political in this episode, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

This isn't politics. This is just American. Oh, this is just America.

[Alyssa]

For those of us at this table in the state of Montana, 1.25 million acres.

[Randall Williams]

Yep.

[Alyssa]

Right now, what they're trying to sell right now at quote, unquote, fair market value. Now, before we go, the same sons of guns like to. Every time there's an easement bill in this state, groups show up and they say, hey, we can't give an easement in perpetuity. Cause it's based on fair market value. And we can't see into the future. So how could you ever come up with what's fair right now for the future? Those same people right now are saying, hey, let's sell 1.25 million acres based on fair market value. And it drives me insane.

[Randall Williams]

Now, before we go to our.

[Brody]

Brody one.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, no, we've got another question.

[Brody]

I know, but I don't think anybody can.

[Giannis]

Somebody like three of you guys.

[Spencer Newharth]

Let'S.

[Brody]

All right, let's keep playing.

[Randall Williams]

Before we go to our final question, here's a quick rundown of the correct answers for you folks playing along. Number one, humble. Number two. Who. Who could forget Salisbury steak? Number three. Minnesota. Number four, Kenai. Number five. Duluth. Number six. Partition. Number seven. High altitude. Number eight. Pyramid. Number nine. 36. Now, the score at this point is Brody 6. Hansi 5. Cal 5. Giannis 5. So this last question really could.

[Spencer Newharth]

I had send us six right the left.

[Giannis]

And then you got that one wrong.

[Alyssa]

Yeah.

[Brody]

Wait, that's correct.

[Alyssa]

Yeah.

[Phil]

It was a zero percenter classic.

[Alyssa]

One tie, we all tie situation.

[Spencer Newharth]

I just blocked that from my memory.

[Randall Williams]

So this is a really important question is my point for. And. And I think you're gonna like it. This is our listener question of the week from Brian Green. For submitting this great question, Brian will receive a board game signed by the crew. And if you want a chance to win listener question of the week, then send your question to triviator.com this last question comes to us in the realm of cooking. What nine letter side dish which gets its name from the Algonquin tribes of New England, can be described as a medley of grains, legumes, vegetables, and sometimes meats. Most common ingredients include sweet corn, beans, tomatoes, and peppers. What not. We got a lot. Boy, I didn't think that many people would jump on their boards. What Nine letter side dish gets its name from the Algonquin. Algonquin tribes of New England and can be described as a medley of grains, legumes, vegetables, and sometimes meats. Most common ingredients include sweet corn, beans, tomatoes, and peppers. Mmm. Sounds good.

[Giannis]

Nine letter side dish. You write the longest questions of any host, Randall, you've got. You've cornered that market.

[Randall Williams]

Well, this was written by Brian Greene, and that's why it's our listener question of the week. I just think.

[Alyssa]

Yeah, more bang for the buck for the listener, really. Longer the question.

[Randall Williams]

I. I believe I added the most common ingredients at the end as a. As a little. I didn't think it would. I didn't think it was easy enough with.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's a good idea to write the question so long that by the time Randall gets to the end of the question, you forgot what the beginning was about.

[Randall Williams]

How many sections are in a township?

[Alyssa]

36.

[Randall Williams]

See, variety. That's what you're looking for in a host. Variety and length of questions.

[Hansi]

The spice.

[Giannis]

Does anybody know this?

[Spencer Newharth]

I do.

[Randall Williams]

Brody knows it.

[Giannis]

Oh, Brody's gonna win if he thinks.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. If he's wrong, though, maybe Giannis knows it.

[Spencer Newharth]

I think Giannis. I got a feeling Giannis knows.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Brody]

I had a word come into my brain, and it has nine letters in it.

[Randall Williams]

I think this is.

[Brody]

I'm going for it. Going with it.

[Randall Williams]

I really liked Brian's question. He submitted two, and I forget what the other one was, but this one really stood out to me. It's a great question.

[Brody]

I wish when they wrote in, though, they provided a little flavor text, too.

[Randall Williams]

Let me. I was gonna get to that. Brian provided me with some flavor text.

[Hansi]

Provide like. Like a page and a half, three pages of flavor text.

[Giannis]

I'll have people send in entire scripts. Well, here you go.

[Randall Williams]

Okay. Yeah.

[Brody]

Done.

[Randall Williams]

No, no, Brian. Brian sends some flavor text and even included a link to a recipe on the Meat Eater dot com.

[Alyssa]

Wow.

[Giannis]

Well, now I know this one, right?

[Randall Williams]

You never know. Do you know every recipe on the Meat Eater?

[Giannis]

Pretty familiar.

[Spencer Newharth]

Didn't like this stuff when I was little.

[Randall Williams]

All right.

[Brody]

I don't know if I've ever had it.

[Randall Williams]

Why don't we flip them over? Giannis says sack attach. Cal says succotash. Melissa says goulash. Tressa says cowboy caviar. Spencer says cornucopia. Hansi says succotash. Brody says succotash.

[Spencer Newharth]

Who spelled it right?

[Randall Williams]

You. You did. No one else? Yeah.

[Alyssa]

I didn't put that O.

[Randall Williams]

Let's see.

[Hansi]

Let's see. What is what is that?

[Spencer Newharth]

S, U, C, C. You guys got nine letter.

[Randall Williams]

You got S, U, C, C, O.

[Alyssa]

I had to throw that other C in.

[Randall Williams]

Succotash comes from the Narragansett word saquotash, which was described by British explorer John Carver in 1787 as, quote, unripe corn and beans in the same state, boiled together with bear's flesh, the fat of which moistens the pulse and renders it beyond comparison delicious. I got that from Brian. This next bit I added.

[Alyssa]

I can't wait to use that. You know, that dinner was lovely. It really moistened my pulse.

[Randall Williams]

Yes. Famously, the Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies character Sylvester J. Pussycat would often exclaim suffering succotash when he was frustrated, especially during his failed attempts to catch Tweety Bird. The phrase became one of his most recognizable catchphrases, along with his characteristic lisp. For a succotash recipe, check out Wade Truong's recipe for miso butter basted cobia with Summer Succotash on Themeater.com.

[Giannis]

Good flavor text.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, Brian killed it.

[Alyssa]

I thought Suck Tash had squash in there.

[Giannis]

I think it can have whatever you want.

[Randall Williams]

You can have whatever you want.

[Hansi]

It can be a cornucopia. I liked that. I thought that was too many hopped into mine.

[Randall Williams]

The big thing is you have some carbs and you have some whatever. Beans are legumes, you know.

[Alyssa]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

There's some magical combination of nutrition. Brody, if I'm not mistaken, you are the winner of this game of Meat Eater Trivia. To what worthy cause would you like to donate your child?

[Spencer Newharth]

Did we deplete our LAI fund with the Corner Crossing?

[Alyssa]

Well, no, we're. I mean, we're building it.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I donated in part to that, I think, when I won the championship.

[Giannis]

Good reminder.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I think I don't recall.

[Spencer Newharth]

Let's throw it in there. Meat Eater Land Access initiative.

[Randall Williams]

Fantastic.

[Alyssa]

Fantastic.

[Randall Williams]

$500 to the meat Eater Land Access Initiative. Well, gang, this was fun. Join us next week for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.

[Giannis]

Thanks, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

Tiebreaker.

[Brody]

Thanks, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

Nice job. Yeah. Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using the those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

[J]

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