Ep. 724: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXI

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast Episode: Ep. 724: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXI Release Date: July 2, 2025

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Overview

In Episode 724 of The MeatEater Podcast, host Spencer Newarth invites listeners into the spirited and competitive world of MeatEater Trivia, a game show format where outdoor enthusiasts test their knowledge across four verticals: hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. This particular episode features a showdown between Brody, the reigning trivia champion, and the trio of challengers known as the Jabronis—Cory, Nate, and Tressa. The stakes are high, with a $500 donation to a conservation organization of the winner's choice at play.

Game Setup

Spencer kickstarts the trivia session by outlining the rules and introducing the contestants:

Spencer Newarth [02:03]: "Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins."

The game comprises 10 rounds, with questions drawn from the designated verticals. The format ensures a balanced challenge, promoting both individual and team dynamics.

Round Highlights

Question 1: Conservation

Topic: Employment numbers among federal agencies.

Question: Which of these agencies employs the most people? U.S. Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, National Park Service, or Bureau of Reclamation?

• Brody [06:19]: "Was this stat pre doge cuts or post doge cuts?"
• Jabronis (Cory, Nate, Tressa) unanimously: "National Park Service."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: U.S. Forest Service (35,000 employees).
Neither Brody nor the Jabronis answered correctly.

Question 2: Fishing

Topic: Boat anatomy.

Question: Paddling magazine defines this four-letter word as "the crossbeam in the boat's center connecting the starboard and port sides."

• Corey [10:34]: "I think it's a forest service." (Incorrect context)
• Nate [12:08]: "I think it's keel."
• Tressa suggests flipping a coin to decide.

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Yoke.
All participants missed the correct term.

Question 3: Nature

Topic: Historical hurricanes.

Question: The 2017 hurricane that caused catastrophic flooding in Texas is the second costliest in American history.

• Jabronis: "Hurricane Helene."
• Brody: "Hurricane Irene."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Hurricane Harvey ($160 billion in damages).
Both Brody and the Jabronis were incorrect.

Question 4: Cooking

Topic: Spanish culinary terms.

Question: This two-word Spanish term roughly translates to "grilled meat."

• Both Jabronis and Brody: "Carne asada."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Carne Asada.
All participants answered correctly.

Question 5: Hunting

Topic: Optical phenomena in scopes.

Question: Primary Arms defines this word as "an optical phenomenon in which an object appears to shift in position when viewed from different angles."

• Jabronis: "Parallax."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Parallax.
All participants were correct.

Question 6: Wildlife

Topic: Online bird resources.

Question: Who runs the website allaboutbirds.org?

• Jabronis: "Cornell Lab."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Cornell Lab.
Correctly answered by all.

Question 7: Hunting

Topic: Wildlife parasites.

Question: What six-letter insect in maggot form is sometimes found in the nasal passage of deer?

• Jabronis and Brody: "Bot fly."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Bot Fly.
All answered correctly.

Question 8: Conservation

Topic: Voice acting in PSA campaigns.

Question: Who is the Oscar-nominated actor voicing Smokey in public service announcements from 2008 to 2023?

• Jabronis and Brody: "Sam Elliott."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Sam Elliott.
All participants were correct.

Question 9: Fishing

Topic: River tributaries.

Question: This river, named after a country, is the longest tributary to the Arkansas River.

• Jabronis: "Canadian River."
• Brody: Initially stumped, later narrowed down to "Canadian River."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Canadian River (906 miles).
Both Jabronis answered correctly.

Question 10: Cooking/Fishing

Topic: Salmon varieties.

Question: Tasting Table declared this the worst-tasting salmon, which goes by the nickname "dog salmon."

• Jabronis: "Atlantic Salmon."
• Brody: "Chum Salmon."

Outcome:
Correct Answer: Chum Salmon (also known as Keta or Silver).
Brody was the sole correct respondent.

Final Results

With this victory, Brody outscored the Jabronis, securing seven correct answers to their six. As promised, MeatEater donates $500 to American Rivers, a conservation organization focused on protecting waterways and ensuring sustainable river habitats.

Brody [40:47]: "Since there's they're rescinding that roadless rule in national forests, which are the headwaters of a lot of rivers and you just joined American Rivers. We'll donate it to America."

Notable Moments & Quotes

• Humorous Banter:

  Corey [05:32]: "Game on, suckers."

• Competitive Spirit:

  Nate [26:57]: "I've never seen a male. They look like dogs."

• Host’s Good-Natured Teasing:

  Spencer Newarth [21:56]: "What do you want? You want heads? Yeah. It's tails. Okay, Cornell."

Conclusion

Episode 724 of The MeatEater Podcast masterfully blends humor, competition, and a passion for conservation. Through the engaging format of MeatEater Trivia, listeners not only enjoy the camaraderie and competitive edge among outdoor enthusiasts but also contribute to meaningful conservation efforts. Brody's triumph highlights the importance of knowledge in preserving our natural world, embodying the podcast's core belief that understanding the outdoors enriches our lives.

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Stay tuned for future episodes of MeatEater Trivia, where your knowledge can make a difference in conservation efforts. Whether you're a seasoned outdoorsman or a curious nature lover, there's always something new to learn and appreciate.

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Transcript

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[Spencer Newarth]

Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newarth, and today we're joined by Brody, Cory, Nate and Tressa. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from meat eaters 4 verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. And there is a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the Conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now, this episode is Brody v. Jabronis. That means it'll be the winningest meat eater trivia player of all time going up against three jabronis. Corey, Nate, Tressa, Brody, how do you feel about your chances?

[Brody]

Oh, pretty good, I guess.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, I guess.

[Corey]

You hear that? He's nervous.

[Spencer Newarth]

Jabronis, how do you feel about your chances?

[Corey]

So good.

[Nate]

Never better. Yeah, I was planning on beating them by myself.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, okay.

[Nate]

And then you assembled the super team.

[Spencer Newarth]

You don't need Corey and Tressa.

[Nate]

No, I might.

[Spencer Newarth]

You were discussing everyone's role in the team. Tell listeners what those roles are.

[Nate]

Tressa is gonna get every question that pisses off Brody, like, oh, it's a country singer, man.

[Spencer Newarth]

Yep.

[Nate]

Corey's gonna get the real in depth hunting ones like bear teeth, numbers and the like.

[Spencer Newarth]

And Corey and Tress also fly fishing. They got that coming.

[Nate]

I know, exactly. That's my. That's a big hole in my game.

[Corey]

Yeah, we're Brody and then you.

[Spencer Newarth]

What do you do for the team.

[Brody]

I have no idea what.

[Nate]

Supervise and refine.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, got it. Now, who's going to be the captain among you three? Because here's how we'll do this. I will ask the question. Brody will come up with his answer. When he's done, his answer is locked. And then you three can discuss aloud what you want your answer to be. So who's. Who's going to be the captain? Who writes down the answer for you?

[Corey]

My votes for Tressa.

[Nate]

Me too.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, Tressa, you've been elected. Brody v. Jabronis. Now for our stat of the week. This week we're looking at the last time we did Randall v. Jabronis. In that episode, it was 690. When Randall took on six jabronis, the jabronis bested him, winning by two points. Randall had six that game, while the jabronis had eight. 8.

[Brody]

Did you play by the same rules?

[Spencer Newarth]

Same rules, yep. Six was a little overwhelming though for Randall. So we. We dialed it back.

[Brody]

That's a lot of people.

[Spencer Newarth]

There was a lot of brains there. Everyone knew something. So we're going to try three today. Three of with it with some of the top playing Jabronis.

[Corey]

Half the number of brains.

[Spencer Newarth]

Were you Jabronis here when we did that? Jabronis v. Random. Okay. No, Nate. Nate's new to the game.

[iHeart Podcast]

I would have only gotten one.

[Spencer Newarth]

Now here's our infrequently asked question segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it trivia the meat eater.com with the subject line IFAQ. Jeff Hilton says, hey, you forgot to do the correct answer review again.

[Corey]

Oh, get out of here.

[Spencer Newarth]

Now this is a problem. The listeners get really annoyed when I forget to do this. I get annoyed when I forget to do this. It's been a real flaw Lately I've been doing this too much. So here's what we're going to do. For every episode, I forget to do the correct answer review. I'm going to join a new conservation org. I'm currently part of five, but I'm making this punishment retroactive. So starting last week, just this morning, I joined my sixth group, American Rivers. This way, at least if I fail the listeners to do the correct answer review, there's some good that comes from that error.

[Nate]

The punishment fits the crime.

[Spencer Newarth]

There we go.

[Corey]

Nice.

[Spencer Newarth]

Now, listeners, call me out on it. Phil, you call me out on it. Players, you call me out if this. If we get to question 10. I have done the correct answer review. Sound the alarm and I will pay my Penalty. This is either going to fix the problem or I'm going to be a member of like 20 conservation orgs. By the 20 by the end of the year, we'll see what happens. All right, no Shelby index today. Excuse me? No housekeeping today. But the Shelby index is a four, so our winner should get eight correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil. I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that?

[Nate]

Just tend to win everything.

[Corey]

Game on, suckers.

[Spencer Newarth]

As a reminder, Brody will write down his answer first. That will be locked in. And then our jabronis will have a chance to discuss question one. The topic is conservation, and this will be multiple choice. Which of these agencies employs the most people? Is it U.S. forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, National Park Service, or Bureau of Reclamation? Which of these agencies employs the most people? Is it the forest Service, blm, Park Service, or Bureau of Reclamation? Brody now going to his whiteboard, keeping it a secret from the jabronis. Nate has wrote down an answer. Brody, how do you feel about your answer?

[Corey]

Where your head's at?

[Nate]

I think we kind of.

[Tressa]

Shut up.

[Brody]

I think that's a tough question.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, again, your four choices. U.S. forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, National Park Service, Bureau of Rec. Brody's answer locked in.

[Brody]

Was this stat pre doge cuts or post doge cuts?

[Spencer Newarth]

This. This was as of 2025, so I don't know if it was pre or post doge cuts. All right, Brody's answer is locked in. Jabronis, you discuss. Now, what do you think the correct answer is?

[Nate]

Well, I think we should talk about our methodology. Like, I don't want to influence your answer, but that's the whole point.

[Spencer Newarth]

Off the rip.

[Nate]

Off the rip, dude.

[Corey]

Yeah, as a Montana we just. Just thinking how much national forest we have.

[Nate]

This is where I'm at.

[iHeart Podcast]

These are my two guesses.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, so we really. Corey. Corey, what do you think it is?

[Corey]

I think it's a forest service.

[Spencer Newarth]

And Nate, he put one park service, two forest service. Tressa put down her two as the forest service as two, and the park service as well.

[Corey]

Like the park service have their own like trail crew.

[Nate]

See, I don't. That's. I'm an east coast boy, so I just think of parks. I don't think of the giant forest out there.

[Spencer Newarth]

Again, the four choices. U. S. Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, National Park Service, Bureau of Reclamation. Which of those agencies employs the most people?

[Nate]

What do you think?

[Brody]

I got a lot of questions.

[Corey]

Could Be BLM too.

[iHeart Podcast]

Does the national park?

[Brody]

Like, do contracted employees count housing in it?

[Corey]

Well, yeah. Like, there's Mammoth, Wyoming. There's a bunch of federal. Like there's like the lawyers and judges and Jabronis.

[Spencer Newarth]

We're gonna need you to park an ants.

[Corey]

We're neater ladies.

[iHeart Podcast]

Yeah.

[Nate]

I say flip a coin, dude.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, wow. Flip a coin. Who carries those around anymore?

[Nate]

Got one right here, dude.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, he found a coin. Okay, tell us what's what here.

[Nate]

Is this what we want to go with, Captain?

[iHeart Podcast]

Okay. Oh, I'm the captain. Oh, I don't know.

[Spencer Newarth]

Wow, Tressa. A lot of pressure.

[Corey]

I don't like that we're putting this to chance.

[Nate]

Most of my big decisions use some.

[Brody]

Kind of reason here.

[Corey]

Yeah, we got six halves of brains.

[Tressa]

That's not how we do things.

[Spencer Newarth]

Jabronis, what are we thinking?

[Corey]

Brody, what are you thinking? He's thinking this.

[Spencer Newarth]

This is easy.

[Nate]

He gets. He's got one.

[Spencer Newarth]

That's not even one of these four choices. Forest Service, blm. Park Service, Bureau of Rec.

[Nate]

All right, Tressa.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tressa, what are we going with?

[Corey]

I think we should go with our guts.

[Nate]

Which is?

[Corey]

Which was.

[Spencer Newarth]

I don't think.

[Nate]

Okay.

[Corey]

National Park.

[Nate]

Do U.S. forest Service. But she's got one and two. She got us.

[Corey]

Oh, wait, you got a two and one. Oh, so you think too then. Let's go for it then. I could blame you. They are settling based on my history.

[Spencer Newarth]

Their answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the jabronis saying the National Park Service. Brody says the Bureau of Land Management. That could be the correct answer. Is the U.S. forest Service. Nobody got it right. Corey didn't lobby hard enough. There are 35,000 Forest Service employees, 20,000 National Park Service employees, 10,000 Bureau of Land Management employees, and 5,000 Bureau of Reclamation employees. The National Park Service heavily relies on volunteers, of which there are138,000 of.

[Nate]

We were closer than Brody.

[Spencer Newarth]

Yeah. So it's forest service at 35,000. Park service at 20,000. Question two. The topic is fishing. This next great question is via Ryan Lilly. Paddling magazine defines this four letter word as, quote, the cross beam in the boat's center connecting the starboard and port sides.

[Brody]

How many letters?

[Spencer Newarth]

Four letter. Paddling magazine defines this four letter word as the cross beam in the boat's center connecting the starboard and port sides.

[Nate]

I have a different one, but I like that. I like yours better.

[Corey]

Here's the picture I drew.

[Spencer Newarth]

So Corey has a four letter answer and Nate has a four letter answer. We're set up for another argument on question two?

[Corey]

Yeah, I got. We'll wait.

[Spencer Newarth]

Obviously maybe we got too big of jabronis in the room.

[Nate]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Spencer Newarth]

Alpha jabronis. Brody is still thinking for the four letter word. Four letter word? The cross beam in the boat's center.

[Nate]

I think you're right.

[Spencer Newarth]

The starboard and port sides.

[Nate]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Corey]

I think so. Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast]

What'd you put?

[Corey]

I drew a picture and it turned out very provocative.

[iHeart Podcast]

I think it's that one.

[Spencer Newarth]

Well, did you see what you show the camera?

[iHeart Podcast]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newarth]

Let's see what your picture is.

[iHeart Podcast]

I've never heard of that word. I got my sailing license in Greece.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, wow. A sailing license in Greece.

[Tressa]

It's a new Tressa tribute. Some Tressa lore.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tell us about that.

[iHeart Podcast]

Oh, I studied abroad in Greece and we had sailing every morning at 6am on the Mediterranean Sea.

[Nate]

That is so cool.

[iHeart Podcast]

Beautiful.

[Spencer Newarth]

What does that sailing license get you?

[iHeart Podcast]

I can be a skipper.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, okay.

[iHeart Podcast]

I can trust myself now. Yeah, that's great.

[Spencer Newarth]

Paddling magazine defines this four letter word. Cross beam in the boat center connecting these.

[Brody]

Oh, you gotta wait for me.

[Nate]

But if.

[Brody]

See, this is the problem. When I gotta think for a long.

[Spencer Newarth]

Time, they're also thinking. They're just not arguing yet. So they're thinking as well.

[Nate]

If I got like my captain's license in like Somalia, would I be good?

[iHeart Podcast]

I think it depends on like the certification, the accreditation.

[Nate]

They probably only accredit pirates.

[Spencer Newarth]

You'd have an international boat. You'd have fishing guide. Corey. Okay, Brody has locked in his answer. All right, Nate, what do you have down?

[Corey]

I got hole.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, and Corey, what do you have down?

[Corey]

I put keel.

[Nate]

I think it's keel.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tressa, Skipper. Tressa. Any input?

[Brody]

I don't think either of those are right.

[iHeart Podcast]

I've never heard of teal. I don't know, but I have no idea what the answer is.

[Nate]

I was thinking transom, but that's a lot of letters.

[Spencer Newarth]

Four letter word bow.

[Nate]

That's three.

[Corey]

Boat's hole is down there.

[Spencer Newarth]

This could be another zero percenter. Brody doesn't like his answer. Our Jabronis are in disagreement.

[Corey]

I can't tell if Spencer's giving us anything.

[Tressa]

Yeah, you lead the witness here. What are you doing?

[Nate]

I know, dude. What do you think, Tressa? Tiebreaker.

[iHeart Podcast]

Oh, that didn't go well last time. I've never heard of that word. That wouldn't trust me again.

[Spencer Newarth]

Corey says keel, Nate says hall, which he has crossed out.

[Nate]

I prefer keel.

[iHeart Podcast]

Yeah, you cross that Out. So we'll go with Corey's.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the jabroni saying keel and Brody says spar. The correct answer is yoke. Nobody got that one right.

[Nate]

How's it feel?

[Spencer Newarth]

Brody for two.

[Nate]

Welcome.

[Spencer Newarth]

The yolk. Does that sound familiar now? A yolk. Yeah, Y. Okay. The yolk provides structure to a canoe and is also used during portage. According to rei, the ideal yolk is padded and has some contour that makes it easy to rest on your shoulders. The yolk. Question 3. Let's see if we can get this one right. The topic is nature. This 2017 hurricane which caused catastrophic flooding in Texas is the second costliest hurricane in American history.

[Brody]

I don't know how you can keep track all these hurricanes.

[Corey]

No kidding.

[Brody]

I just don't.

[Spencer Newarth]

Well, it was the second costliest hurricane in American history, so maybe just remember two of them and you'd know this one. This 2017 hurricane which caused catastrophic flooding in Texas is the second costliest hurricane in American history.

[Nate]

Could you give us the letter?

[Spencer Newarth]

Not giving you any hints, it seemed.

[Corey]

Like you were pretty confident a second.

[Nate]

Ago I started writing down hurricanes.

[Spencer Newarth]

Brody, is your answer locked in?

[Brody]

Yeah, I mean, I have no idea.

[Spencer Newarth]

Jabronis, you can now discuss what you think it is.

[Corey]

Yeah, it's not Katrina because that was. That was New Orleans.

[Nate]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I mean it probably affected Texas.

[Nate]

Yeah, it's not. It was like earlier.

[Corey]

Oh, look at you two. Got the same. That's a great guess. I remember my brother in law went down to Houston to try and help.

[Nate]

Out with hurricane Helene.

[Corey]

Couldn't tell you the name. Sounds good though.

[Nate]

That's my best guess.

[iHeart Podcast]

We both had it.

[Corey]

Yeah, I know, it's great to be know.

[Spencer Newarth]

Jabroni's locking in with Helene. All right, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the Jabroni saying Helene and Brody says Irene.

[Nate]

I thought that was New York.

[Spencer Newarth]

The correct answer is Hurricane Harvey. We are oh for three. This has never happened before. Based on 2024 adjusted costs, Hurricane Harvey caused 160 billion in damage, which is second only to Katrina at 201 billion. Harvey is followed by 2022's Hurricane Iron. Did I put that? That must be wrong. Ian at 119 billion. 2017's Hurricane Maria at 115 billion. In 2012's Hurricane Sandy at 89 billion.

[Nate]

Sandy was the other one I was thinking of.

[Corey]

That was up in New York, New Jersey.

[Spencer Newarth]

Question four. Let's try cooking. Hey. This two word Spanish term roughly translates to grilled meat. Brody looks confident. For the first time this game, this two word Spanish term roughly translates to quote, grilled meat. All right, jabronis. Brody's answer is locked in. What do you think it is?

[Nate]

I mean, yeah, I know it's one word. It's just what came to mind. I don't know.

[Spencer Newarth]

I wrote it down to clarify that last one. It was Hurricane ian. That was third place at 119 billion from 2022.

[Nate]

I think it's gotta be that.

[Corey]

I'm pretty sure.

[Spencer Newarth]

What are you deciding between jabronis, carne asada and barbacoat?

[Nate]

No, carne asada.

[Corey]

Carne asada.

[Nate]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, locked in. Por favor, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the jabroni saying carne asada and Brody saying carne asada. They got it. The correct answer is carne asada. Carne asada is typically made with skirt steak or flank steak, but any cut of meat can be used. It's usually marinated and then charred over a very hot grill. For a deer inspired version, check out Maggie Hudlow's recipe on the meat eater.com called venison carne asada. Question 5. The topic is cooking. This next great question is via Kyle Schwalbe.

[Tressa]

You mean hunting?

[Spencer Newarth]

I think you said hunting. I'm sorry. The topic is hunting for question 5. Primary Arms defines this word as, quote, an optical phenomenon in which an object appears to shift in position when viewed from different angles. Primary arms defines this word as an optical phenomenon in which an object appears to shift in position.

[Nate]

I got your back.

[iHeart Podcast]

Don't worry.

[Spencer Newarth]

Viewed from different angles. All right, Brody has locked in his answer. He looks like he knows it. And now Nate has shown his board to Tressa. Tressa wrote down illusion. Nate wrote down parallax. What are we going with? Jabronis.

[Nate]

It's the only optical issue thing I know of.

[Corey]

Agreed?

[iHeart Podcast]

Yep.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the jabronis and Brody saying parallax. They got it. The correct answer is parallax. The spelling on that is P A R A L L A X. I.

[Brody]

Got the spelling right there.

[Nate]

You wrote an e over there, dude. You said parallax.

[Spencer Newarth]

Parallax. When you move your eyes or head position while looking through a scope at a target. When not accounted for, it can create missed shots to see what to see what it can mean for accuracy. Go watch our video on the meat eater clips YouTube channel called Does Parallax Adjustment Matter? All right, Phil, we're halfway through the game of trivia of jabroni B. Brody, give us A scoreboard update.

[Tressa]

Well, it's a close game. We can say that about it. We got Brody with two points and the jabronis with two points.

[Spencer Newarth]

They're on the same path right now. Started 0 for 3 and then got the next two right. Ugh.

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[Spencer Newarth]

Question six. The topic is wildlife. Who runs the website all about birds.org? brody confident again. Who runs the website all about birds.org? brodY has put his wife down. He's locked in his answer. All right, Jabronis, discuss what you think it could be.

[Brody]

I can't change mine.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, well, we. They haven't said anything yet. You. Could you. Could we give you another minute? Yeah, they haven't said anything yet. Who runs the website all about birds.org?

[Nate]

Oh, I don't know, dude.

[Spencer Newarth]

We'll give you a chance here, Brody.

[Brody]

No, no, I wrote it down. Let's keep it.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay. Brody's gonna stick with his answer, even though he's having second thoughts. I'm having big jabronis. What do you think it could be?

[Corey]

See, I said the Audubon Society smelled incorrectly.

[Nate]

Cornell.

[Corey]

Now, Cornell isn't that. They do that.

[Nate]

They do the Merlin thing.

[Corey]

Think it's the same thing.

[Nate]

I don't know, dude.

[Spencer Newarth]

Who runs a website?

[Corey]

I mean, it's about pretty amazing people over there.

[Nate]

It's a dot org, which I think both of our little All About Birds.

[Corey]

Oh, it's one of these two.

[Spencer Newarth]

Again, this is question Six. Skipper. Tressa may have to be the tiebreaker. Here we have Nate saying, corey, you're literally a captain.

[Nate]

We're calling you.

[Spencer Newarth]

That saying audible.

[iHeart Podcast]

I think. No, captain's a much higher.

[Nate]

Oh, really?

[Spencer Newarth]

Yeah.

[Nate]

Oh, my dad would be disappointed. He's in the Navy.

[Spencer Newarth]

Bronies are not very passionate, though, about their answers.

[iHeart Podcast]

Well, I have zero idea.

[Nate]

Dude, it's a coin toss.

[Corey]

Your answer. I don't like mine.

[Nate]

It's coin toss.

[Brody]

Dude, at some point, you guys gotta stand up and we gotta flip a coin.

[Corey]

Don't flip a coin.

[Nate]

I just want to flip a coin.

[Spencer Newarth]

Before we could pause the show and you two could wrestle over it.

[Tressa]

Oh, we would not pause that. Cameras would be rolling.

[Corey]

We'd break a lot of stuff.

[Nate]

Dude, I haven't. I haven't wrestled someone in too many months. Too many months, man.

[Corey]

All About Birds.

[Spencer Newarth]

Who runs the website all about birds.org?

[iHeart Podcast]

Did you. Have you seen the movie the Big Year?

[Spencer Newarth]

Not that.

[Nate]

When they go find a bunch of birds.

[iHeart Podcast]

Yeah, it's really good. I just watched it.

[Nate]

The door, Clooney.

[Tressa]

It's like. It's like Jack Black, Steven Martin, Steve Martin and Owen Wilson.

[Nate]

That's a great cast.

[Tressa]

I've never seen it. It looks charming.

[Nate]

Dude, I don't know. You just gotta pick one, Skipper.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tressa, what are you gonna go with? Oh.

[iHeart Podcast]

Use the coin.

[Nate]

Oh, that's what I'm talking about.

[Brody]

She's determined.

[Nate]

What do you want? You want heads? Yeah. It's tails. Okay, Cornell.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tails means they're going with Nate's.

[Corey]

Brody just fist bump. Fist pumped the air.

[Brody]

No, no, no. Like, he's just excited. Which one do they go with?

[Spencer Newarth]

They. They said they're going with Nate's. Nate's was tails, right?

[Nate]

Yep.

[iHeart Podcast]

Okay.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay.

[Brody]

I'm saying this before I flip mine. I think Corey's right.

[Spencer Newarth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the Brony is going with Cornell and Brody going with Cornell.

[Corey]

Come on. Coin.

[Spencer Newarth]

The correct answer is the Cornell. Let's go. Got it. Right.

[Lake Pickle]

Thank you.

[Nate]

I told you, Ham Lincoln, most of my best decisions.

[Spencer Newarth]

All About Birds.org is an online guide to birds and bird watching. And often one of the first results when you Google a type. Cornell Lab is also who owns the Merlin bird app that can ID birds by their sound?

[Nate]

Love those guys.

[Spencer Newarth]

Question 7. The topic is hunting what six letter insect in maggot form is sometimes found in the navel passage of deer. Oh, everyone's confident in this one. Brody's answer's locked in.

[Tressa]

If you never.

[Brody]

If you've never Seen this cutting a deer open. It is disgusting.

[Corey]

Never have.

[Brody]

Oh man.

[Spencer Newarth]

Dude, there's nothing like videos form is sometimes found in the naval passage of deer. We have Corey and Nate in agreement this time on bot fly. Go ahead and reveal your answers. The jabronis and Brody say bot fly. They got it. The correct answer is bot fly. Have you seen this in person?

[Brody]

Well, on one mule deer buck.

[Nate]

One.

[Brody]

Only one. They see him all the time down Mexico. And those coos deer but one. And this was in like November. And they're way. I was cutting the thing's head off. They're way down in its throat. Big squirmy ass.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, what state were you in?

[Brody]

Colorado. The only time I've ever seen it.

[Spencer Newarth]

Bot flies will spray eggs onto a deer's face. The deer will then transfer the eggs to their nasal passage by licking their nose. The flies stay there and grow into large maggots until they fall out and finish maturing on the ground. Biologists say bot flies are harmless to deer and do not affect the venison. I've never seen it in person, but it looks wildly uncomfortable. Oh yeah, those things. Yeah, like you, you'd think that the deer, it's not going to make them dead, but they'd want to be dead. Just feeling those.

[Brody]

Imagine having those things squirming around your throat, your nose all day long. Oh my God.

[Nate]

You think that's worse? Or the parasite that replaces the tongue.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh, that one on fish.

[Brody]

Yeah, I don't think fish give a shit about those things. I don't.

[Spencer Newarth]

Yeah, they barely have a brain.

[Corey]

Yeah, they don't have eyelashes.

[Spencer Newarth]

Question 8. The topic is conservation. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Austin White for sending this great question. Austin is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia atthe meat eater.com. all right, this is an audio question. Phil is going to play you Smokey Bears catchphrase that was used in public Service announcements from 2008 to 2023. You need to tell me who the Oscar nominated actor is that's voicing Smokey. Take it away, Phil.

[Corey]

Good work.

[Spencer Newarth]

Only you can prevent wildfires. Oh, oh, okay. Give it to us a few more times there, Phil. And give everyone a good chance to soak that in.

[Nate]

Yep, yep, that's it.

[Corey]

Now is that our ex colleague Austin White, do you know?

[Spencer Newarth]

I don't know. Not sure.

[Nate]

Oh, he's cracking, dude.

[Spencer Newarth]

Oh no. Can prevent Wildfire.

[Nate]

I bet he can see his face, but he can't remember his name.

[Corey]

That's him.

[Brody]

I got an answer written down. I was just double checking.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, Brody has his answer locked in Nate and Corey. What do you think it is?

[Corey]

Sam Elliott.

[Nate]

Yep.

[Spencer Newarth]

They are going with Sam Elliott one more time.

[Brody]

Oh, you guys weren't done yet?

[Corey]

Well, there's a process.

[Spencer Newarth]

The Jabronis and Brody say Sam Elliott. They got it. The correct answer is Sam Elliott. Was that almost not going to come to you, Brody?

[Brody]

No. No. I knew it. But I just want to listen one more time.

[Spencer Newarth]

For 15 years, Sam Elliott delivered Smokey's famous line in forest service commercials, only you can prevent wildfires. Coincidentally, he was born the same day that Smokey was created. Others who have voiced Smokey include Stephen Colbert, Jeff Foxworthy, Betty White, and Al Roker.

[Brody]

I think Sam's the best choice out of those.

[Nate]

He's that guy. You ever watch Parks and Rec?

[iHeart Podcast]

No.

[Spencer Newarth]

That's your familiarity with Sam Elliott.

[Nate]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newarth]

What did he do in Parks and Rec?

[Nate]

He was like the antithesis to Ron Swanson.

[Tressa]

Yeah, he was. He worked for, like, a neighboring cities.

[Nate]

Parks and rec department, like the nice part.

[Brody]

Been around a long time. And his best role ever is as Patrick Swayze's sidekick in the original Roadhouse.

[Corey]

No way, man.

[Spencer Newarth]

The Big Lebowski. Phil, what do you. What's your.

[Tressa]

I mean, my, my. My. My first is. Is the Big Lebowski. That's what I think of first. But he was also really good. I mean, for a recent role in the. In Bradley Cooper Star is Born movie.

[Spencer Newarth]

That's what he got his Oscar nomination for. He did not win. It was for supporting actor. All right, Phil, we got two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update.

[Nate]

Oh, man.

[Tressa]

Brody and the Jabronis have all gotten the same questions right and the same questions wrong.

[Spencer Newarth]

Amazing.

[Tressa]

So they are tied up still, but now they have five points a piece.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, two questions left.

[Corey]

This is way more fun without Randall.

[Nate]

Yeah, dude. Question. Germany.

[Spencer Newarth]

Right. The topic is fishing. This next great question is via Joe Chadic. This river, which is named after a country, is the longest tributary to the Arkansas River. This river, which is named after a country, is the longest tributary to the Arkansas River. Brody looks stumped. Nar bronies look stumped.

[Nate]

I got an answer.

[Spencer Newarth]

Good.

[Nate]

But it's just.

[Spencer Newarth]

Now you come up with an answer. Cory, so you guys can fight.

[Nate]

No, no, you got.

[Corey]

I'm not great in the South Arkansas.

[Spencer Newarth]

Well, this river, which is named after a country, is the longest tributary to the Arkansas.

[iHeart Podcast]

River.

[Spencer Newarth]

Our four players did not look optimistic. Anybody in here ever been on the Arkansas River? I'm sure Brody has. Yeah.

[Brody]

The upper part of it.

[Spencer Newarth]

Looking for its longest tributary, which is named after a country. Corey is looking at a map in his head. Nate wrote down an answer immediately and has not revised it, so he must like what he has.

[Nate]

I'm just thinking through all the countries and seeing if it kind of flows off my tongue.

[Corey]

Okay, Nate.

[Spencer Newarth]

Probably the most well traveled. Yeah. Player here today. How many countries you been in, you think? Oh, 20.

[Nate]

Probably close. No less.

[Spencer Newarth]

Higher or lower?

[Nate]

Lower. Like 15, probably.

[Spencer Newarth]

This river, which is named after a country, is the longest tributary to the Arkansas River. And this is question nine.

[Nate]

But world traveler Tressa, boat captain extraordinaire.

[Corey]

Boat skipper, Grecian skipper.

[Spencer Newarth]

You got more or less countries in 20, Tressa.

[iHeart Podcast]

Probably between 15 and 20.

[Nate]

I was. So when I. I had to get rid of my official passport and all my stamps. Gone.

[Spencer Newarth]

You had to get rid of it?

[Nate]

Yeah. Like, when you're out, you're like you.

[Spencer Newarth]

Brody looks stumped. He has his whiteboard pressed against his temple.

[Corey]

It's more a geography question. There are fish in the arsenal calling it fishing.

[Spencer Newarth]

This river, which is named after a country, is the longest.

[Brody]

What kind of fish are in this.

[Spencer Newarth]

River to the Arkansas River? Not gonna give you any hints.

[Corey]

Good question.

[Spencer Newarth]

Phil had to go get himself a cord before we started recording today. What cord did you need?

[Tressa]

Oh, for the. The hard drive that I record the video onto.

[Nate]

You know, this brings up a question I've had. I feel like when. When the heavyweights, the non jabronis, are a little stumped, you give them a.

[Corey]

Lot more time than the rivers. I've never heard of any of these.

[Nate]

I don't know. It just seems to roll off.

[Spencer Newarth]

You just know some countries exist.

[Corey]

I was really hoping you were bringing it closer to home.

[Nate]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I just. I can't imagine, like, I don't know, the Mongolian river feeding into.

[Corey]

Right, right.

[iHeart Podcast]

That was what I was.

[Nate]

I don't even.

[Spencer Newarth]

This river, which is named after a country, is the longest tributary. Arkansas River.

[Nate]

I was going the wrong direct.

[Spencer Newarth]

How you feeling about your process over there?

[Brody]

No, not good. No, let's just go.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay. He's now picking his answer. Brody's answer is locked in jabronis. What are you thinking? Oh, man.

[Nate]

All right, I'm thinking. I'm thinking countries, like the people they were exploring from. So just. Just say them. Say them and see what feels right.

[Spencer Newarth]

None of them.

[Nate]

We didn't say Any out loud.

[Corey]

Well, okay. The French river, the Spanish river, the Canadian river, the Portuguese river.

[Nate]

I think Canadian and Spanish sound the best out of that.

[Spencer Newarth]

There's a Canadian, but.

[Nate]

Man, that's what I got.

[Spencer Newarth]

This river, which is named after a country, is the longest tributary to the Arkansas river.

[Nate]

Spencer was laughing. Like with real laughter. Like real mirth in his eyes, which makes me think none of these are right.

[Spencer Newarth]

It's because Brody said. Oh, wait.

[Nate]

Too late. Toasted gun to my head. I'd go Canadian.

[Corey]

That's.

[Spencer Newarth]

Does anybody have a gun around here?

[Corey]

Yeah, not too far away.

[Spencer Newarth]

Nate, what are your four choices again?

[Nate]

Canadian, French, Spanish and Portuguese.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, skipper. Tressa, what do you think?

[Tressa]

Do we have a four sided coin we can flip?

[Nate]

Yeah, give me that 20 sided die.

[Tressa]

I don't have my bag of dice here.

[Corey]

French river, Germany river.

[iHeart Podcast]

Corey, I'll let you decide this one.

[Nate]

Oh, wow. Send it off to her lieutenant. Her? Bose. What? Her. What's the second in command guy?

[Spencer Newarth]

Skipper. Skipper.

[iHeart Podcast]

Skipper. I don't know.

[Tressa]

What does a bosun do?

[Nate]

Boson's mate. I don't know.

[Tressa]

Okay.

[Spencer Newarth]

All right. You brony?

[Corey]

I don't know. Let's go Canadian.

[Nate]

Yeah, dude, let's do it.

[Corey]

I don't think brownies either.

[Brody]

That's what I got.

[Spencer Newarth]

And it ain't saying the Canadian river. And Brody is saying the Canadian river. Oh, hey.

[Nate]

Makes me feel better.

[Spencer Newarth]

Crossed out. What'd you cross out?

[Brody]

I was trying. There's a Mexico, but it's a different. I was trying to think of something.

[Spencer Newarth]

The correct answer is the Canadian river. Okay. At 906 miles long, the Canadian river is the 13th longest river in America. It flows through Colorado, New Mexico, Texas and Oklahoma. The French explorers who named it in 1820 thought it flowed northward into Canada. So there you go. Good. Good reason you're carrying.

[Brody]

I've been on the Canadian river. I have a hard time picturing it, how it's a tributary to Arkansas.

[Spencer Newarth]

Not only is it the longest tributary, it's the 13th longest river in the USA.

[Nate]

I didn't even know it was a real river.

[Spencer Newarth]

All right, here's a correct answer review so far. One, was U. S. Forest Service. Two, yoke. Three, Hurricane Harvey. Four, carne asada. Five, parallax. Six, Cornell Lab. Seven, bot fly. Eight, Sam Elliott nine, Canadian River. Going into question 10, we have the jabronis and Brody tied up with six points each.

[Corey]

Hot dog.

[Spencer Newarth]

Here's question 10. The topic is cooking. Tasting table declared this the worst tasting salmon, which goes by the nickname dog salmon.

[Nate]

Yo, this is Still a fishing question.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay, Brody very quickly locked in. So now our three jabron have a chance to discuss. Tasting table declared this the worst tasting salmon, which goes by the nickname dog salmon. Go ahead, Jabronis. You can discuss aloud what you think it is, but I know it's not.

[Corey]

See, that's what I guess.

[Nate]

Was it a shooka king salmon or.

[Corey]

Is it a silver salmon?

[Brody]

Is there a c. Lot of salmon out there.

[Nate]

Lot of salmon.

[Corey]

Yeah, there is. Kokanee salmon.

[iHeart Podcast]

Oh, coconut.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tasting table declared this the worst tasting salmon, which goes by the nickname dog Cocaine. Brody was annoyed that this was too easy, and now he's amused. Yeah, that you guys are arguing.

[Nate]

Dude, See, this is you even. You even cloaked the fishing question in the guise of cooking.

[Spencer Newarth]

Tasting table declared this the worst tasting salmon, which goes by the nickname dog Salmon.

[Corey]

Dog salmon.

[Tressa]

My two boys are split on how they enjoy salmon. One of them hates it, the other one loves it. And the one that hated it asked the one who loved it, why do you like it so much? And the one who loves it says, because it tastes like salty dog food.

[Nate]

Wait, this salmon, there's an endorsement?

[Tressa]

No, just salmon in general. He was only six years old.

[Spencer Newarth]

Salty, dude.

[Tressa]

That's why he likes it.

[Nate]

I've had sockeye salmon from Costco. Doesn't taste as good as the other salmon. The farm raised stuff.

[Lake Pickle]

It's all really good.

[Corey]

So the weight of the worst tasting salmon is obviously relative.

[Nate]

See, I just got a hint though, because he's all up in arms of the socket.

[Brody]

Like, if you think wild sockeye salmon does not taste as good.

[Nate]

I didn't say sockeye salmon.

[Brody]

That's the only sockeye you're going to get.

[Nate]

Okay, well, there you go. More evidence.

[Brody]

I don't think that gross farm raised stuff that's like diseased and fed dog food and grown in a pen.

[Spencer Newarth]

That's just warm water.

[Brody]

Oh, so.

[Spencer Newarth]

So what's.

[Nate]

What's worse than that? What salmon's worse than that?

[Brody]

The farm race stops bad as it gets tasting.

[Corey]

I don't think this is.

[Spencer Newarth]

Declared this the worst tasting salmon is.

[Corey]

My.

[Spencer Newarth]

Well goes by the nickname.

[Nate]

I probably wouldn't put that then.

[Tressa]

Cory, Corey wrote down kokanee for the audio.

[Spencer Newarth]

Nate, what do you have wrote down there, Nate?

[Nate]

Dude, I just. The salmon that I know. Chinook, sakai, coke, co. You don't even have. Yeah, don't even have it on my board. See, so we know it's not Brody.

[Spencer Newarth]

Brody's in a good mood.

[Nate]

What else? What other salmon?

[Tressa]

The game is still Tied, Brody.

[Brody]

I'd like to remember.

[Nate]

You gotta pull your way, brother. This is your spot.

[Corey]

Ever since that first worm, it's all been you.

[iHeart Podcast]

Is it Atlantic?

[Corey]

See Atlantic salmon, the worst taste of.

[Brody]

Salmon out there goes by the different kinds of sand.

[Nate]

That sounds better. I mean, I know it's not chinook, sakai or kokanee, thanks to Brody.

[Spencer Newarth]

All right.

[Brody]

Is the most expensive by. Well, King. And then sakai is the most expensive.

[Spencer Newarth]

He's really in a good mood.

[Nate]

Yeah, man. Keep the conversation going.

[Brody]

To tell you something.

[Spencer Newarth]

They're narrowing in. What are we going to go with? Jabronis.

[Corey]

What's on top there?

[Nate]

Atlantic.

[iHeart Podcast]

I don't even know if that's.

[Corey]

Could be.

[Nate]

You said silver. I don't know what that is.

[Corey]

That's a nickname to one of them.

[Nate]

Which one?

[Corey]

We don't have too many of them in Montana. We have this one in Montana and there's some what Chinooks in Four Pack.

[Lake Pickle]

But I hear they're pretty good.

[iHeart Podcast]

Maybe you guys choose nose goes.

[Corey]

I mean, have you ever seen a male? They look like dogs.

[Nate]

Well, it's not that one. He said it's not on my board.

[Corey]

Oh, really? He did?

[Nate]

Yeah.

[Brody]

A kokanee is a landlocked version of a sockeye.

[Nate]

Ah, see, man, Just throwing bones left and right.

[Corey]

Erase this bone, man.

[Spencer Newarth]

He's going to tell you the answer here if we drag this out any longer.

[Tressa]

I don't think they're.

[Brody]

They could talk all day. They're not going to.

[Nate]

Well, I don't think it's Atlantic because he's still talking trash.

[Corey]

He's trying to mess us up now.

[Spencer Newarth]

Jabronis. We're gonna use the Atlantic.

[Brody]

Ocean is nasty.

[Nate]

Any other salmons out there?

[Spencer Newarth]

Any at all?

[Nate]

Dude.

[Spencer Newarth]

Hello.

[Nate]

Hello.

[Spencer Newarth]

Please. Tressa, what are you thinking?

[Corey]

What's your captain? Mine's Atlanta.

[Nate]

Skipper, please.

[Spencer Newarth]

Please.

[iHeart Podcast]

I'm gonna ride Atlantic. I don't even know if that's a.

[Corey]

Real kind of sandwich.

[Nate]

It's better than what I got.

[Spencer Newarth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have the jabroni saying Atlantic and Brody saying chum Brod. The correct answer is the chum salmon or the keta salmon or the silver bright.

[iHeart Podcast]

We should have said silver.

[Spencer Newarth]

Silver. We would, because silver is more of a. If you just said silver, that'd be what it's fair. Coho. So again, it's the chum. The keita or a silver.

[Brody]

That keita and silver bright is like a. One of those marketing names for a fish.

[Spencer Newarth]

Have you had a chump salmon before, Brody? I have what did you think of it?

[Brody]

It's not great.

[Spencer Newarth]

Okay.

[Brody]

But when they like. The problem with them is they're already turning. When most people catch them, they start turning before they even go into fresh water.

[Spencer Newarth]

Yes.

[Brody]

And I think when they're caught out way out in the salt, they're. They're pretty good. Like when. When they're silver.

[Spencer Newarth]

The dog salmon nickname is because their teeth resemble canine teeth and because it was common food for dog sled teams. Taste of Home recommends using preservation cooking on chum salmon such as smoking, canning, pickling, or salt curing. Despite the less desir meat, their row is prized for its bright color and briny flavor. All right, Brody wins with seven. Correct answer. Pulling out at the last second. Brody, what are you gonna do with your 500 donation?

[Brody]

Well, since there's. They're rescinding that roadless rule in national forests, which are the headwaters of a lot of rivers and you just joined American Rivers. We'll donate it to America.

[Spencer Newarth]

There we go. When I went to their website to join, that was one of their top priorities was I'm talking about the roll this rule and how that will affect American waterways. $500 going to them. Well done, Brody. The first to defeat a team of jabronis. And we threw some heavy hitters at you today.

[Nate]

Well done.

[Brody]

Tough guys up front.

[Spencer Newarth]

All right, join us next week for more meat eater trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.

[Nate]

That was fun.

[iHeart Podcast]

Good game.

[Corey]

Yeah, that was well done.

[Brody]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newarth]

Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host.

[Brody]

Using those smooth metal tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

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[Lake Pickle]

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[iHeart Podcast]

Now this is an iHeart podcast.