Ep. 771: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXIV

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast

Ep. 771: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXIV

Release Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Giannis Patelis (guest host)
Guests/Contestants: Bronson Strickland, Sam James, Spencer, Corey, Seth, Brody
Theme: All About Whitetails – MeatEater Trivia Special

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Episode Overview

In celebration of Whitetail Week, Giannis Patelis hosts a special edition of MeatEater Trivia focused entirely on North America's most pursued big game animal: the whitetail deer. With special guest Bronson Strickland from the National Deer Association and the regular cast of trivia contenders, the episode serves up a blend of competitive fun, practical knowledge, and classic MeatEater banter. Aside from testing knowledge about hunting, conservation, and wild foods—this time, exclusively about whitetails—the crew also riff on gear, management practices, record books, and culinary quirks.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Special Stakes & Focus (00:32 - 03:17)

• Instead of the usual $500 charity prize, the winner gets a lifetime membership (worth $1,500) to the National Deer Association.
• Every trivia question is whitetail-related, covering three of MeatEater’s "four verticals": hunting, conservation, and cooking (fishing excluded).
• Bronson Strickland introduces the NDA’s mission and value:

  "Because it is an organization all about deer, all about education, making people better hunters, better stewards, advocacy for deer..." — Bronson Strickland (02:27)

2. Whitetail Week Promotions & Sales Banter (03:17 - 07:19)

• Extended, humorous digression about gear deals—including cellular trail cams, First Light apparel, and the nostalgia of the original First Light "Chama" hoodie.
• Insights into cell camera use: seasoned deer learn to ignore them if they’re a familiar presence, especially with solar setups.

3. The Trivia Format & “Index” Reference (07:19 - 08:31, 08:45)

• Jennifer Index: This week, Giannis’ wife Jennifer scored a 4/10 on the quiz, setting a benchmark for contestants.
• Contestant banter and pre-game jitters, especially from first-timer Bronson Strickland.

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The Whitetail-Only Trivia Challenge

1. Listener Question: Minimum Pope & Young Score (08:48)

Q: Which antlered big game species shares the same Pope & Young minimum entry score (125") as typical whitetail deer?
A: Shiras moose (10:28)

• Notable Reaction: Surprise that moose and whitetails have the same typical entry score.
• Info Drop: Shiras moose archery world record is 192", with habitat across the northern Rockies.

2. Forestry Know-How: The "DBH" Acronym (11:57)

Q: In forestry, what does DBH stand for?
A: Diameter at Breast Height (15:15)

• Educational Moment: Why DBH is set at 4.5 ft and its importance in forest and wildlife management.

  "That would be the equivalent of Boone and Crockett score for me and a deer—DBH for a forester." — Bronson Strickland (15:30)

3. OnX Markers: Whitetail Icons (16:39)

Q: How many waypoint icons in OnX specifically use the term “whitetail”?
A: One (18:42)

• Sidebar: Lively discussion on digital scouting techniques and personalized icon color-coding.

4. Top Whitetail Cartridge (20:11)

Q: Which cartridge accounts for the most Boone & Crockett whitetail entries?
A: .30-06 Springfield (22:33)

• Runner-ups: 12-gauge shotgun, then .270
• Trivia Twist: Bowhunting (various draw weights) far exceeds firearms in record entries.

5. Dental Pad—The Overlooked Anatomy (24:12)

Q: What is the name of the fibrous tissue replacing a whitetail’s upper front teeth?
A: Dental pad (27:13)

• Zero-for-the-room moment; even the biologist missed it.

  "The answer is surprisingly simple—but sweet." — Giannis Patelis (26:38)

• Factoid: Dental pad serves as a cutting board for lower incisors.

6. Regional Butcher Lingo: “Fish Fillets,” etc. (29:10)

Q: "Fish fillets," "sweet meat," and "mud veins" refer to which cut?
A: Tenderloins (30:25)

• Banter: Only minimal regional knowledge; laughter over the "mud veins" nickname.

7. Record Book State Rankings (32:16)

Q: Which state has the most Boone & Crockett whitetail entries?
A: Wisconsin (34:20)

• Discussion: Submission bias and hunting regulations may influence state standings.
• Top 5 States: Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio.

8. World Record Archery Bucks’ Home State (36:01)

Q: Where were both the archery typical and non-typical world record whitetails taken?
A: Illinois (37:54)

"Mel Johnson killed the world record typical in 1965 with the trad bow. Luke Brewster killed the record non-typical in 2018." — Giannis Patelis (37:55)

9. Legality of Hunting Whitetails State-by-State (41:09)

Q: In how many states can you legally hunt whitetail deer?
A: 45 states (43:05)

• Tricky Clarification: Exclusions are Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, California, Utah.

10. Wild Meat Nutrition—Ranking Calories (47:23)

Q: Order these by caloric density (high to low): lean ground beef, skin-on pheasant, venison, catfish fillets.
A:

1. Lean ground beef (1,250 cal/lb)
2. Skin-on pheasant (672)
3. Catfish fillets (653)
4. Venison (544)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "If I do 50%, it'll be a victory for me. I'm terrible at trivia."
  — Bronson Strickland (00:53)
• "It is an organization all about deer, all about education, making people better hunters, better stewards, advocacy for deer. So it's just a wonderful organization made up of great people."
  — Bronson Strickland on NDA (02:27)
• "I've gone so long now without touching or being near some of these cameras that I'm coming to think that I have two, maybe three year old bucks that have seen that camera from the day they were born."
  — Giannis Patelis, on evolving deer behavior (05:05)
• "The answer is dental pad… The hard, rubbery pad helps them efficiently gather large quantities of plant matter by pinching it between the pad and their bottom teeth."
  — Giannis Patelis (27:13)
• "My favorite icon is green, because that's what I do when I have hunting permission on a place."
  — Sam James (18:06)
• "I searched for a while...like, what does that [tenderloin] muscle do? Do you know, Bronson?... Hip thrusting would be my answer."
  — Giannis Patelis and Bronson Strickland, joking about biology (30:25)
• “If you think you know what a giant non-typical world record whitetail looks like, you actually don’t. You need to go see pictures.”
  — Sam James (39:01)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Stakes & NDA intro: 00:32
• Sales and gear talk: 03:17
• Trivia format, Jennifer Index: 07:19, 08:31
• Trivia begins: 08:45
• Listener-Submitted Question (P&Y score): 08:48
• DBH in forestry: 11:57
• OnX whitetail icons: 16:39
• Top whitetail cartridge: 20:11
• Whitetail dental pad: 24:12
• “Fish fillets”/Tenderloin nicknames: 29:10
• Record book state rankings: 32:16
• World record archery bucks: 36:01
• Legal whitetail hunting states: 41:09
• Calorie ranking by meat: 47:23
• Final winner and reflections: 51:16–53:14

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Contest Outcomes & Wrap-Up

• Winner: Spencer
• Prize: Lifetime NDA Membership
• Scores (final):
  • Spencer: 7
  • Bronson: 5 (adjusted down based on follow-up)
  • Brody & Seth: 4
  • Corey: 3
  • Sam: 1
• Notable Trivia Takeaways: Even guests with advanced wildlife biology degrees (Dr. Strickland) found these whitetail-specific questions challenging.

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Episode Tone, Humor, and Vibe

True to form, the MeatEater crew keeps it light, irreverent, and accessible—balancing serious conservation insights with in-jokes, regional quirks, and the part-competitive, part-comradely eyerolling listeners expect from the trivia crew. Listeners get not just answers but context, anecdotes, and practical lore—everything that makes the outdoors and its culture endlessly fascinating.

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For anyone looking to learn more about whitetails, gear, conservation, or simply enjoy the camaraderie and wit of outdoor obsessives, this episode is an essential listen—trivia and wisdom in generous measure.

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Transcript

[Giannis Patelis]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Sam James]

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[Giannis Patelis]

It's a meat eater podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your guest host, Giannis Patelis. Today joined by Spencer Brody, Corey, Seth and Bronson Strickland. Bronson, this is your first time on the show. How do you think you'll do at Meat Eater Trivia?

[Bronson Strickland]

If I do 50%, it'll be a victory for me. I'm terrible at trivia.

[Giannis Patelis]

Do you ever play along with this show at home?

[Bronson Strickland]

I have. I have a couple times with graduate students in the truck and I always lose.

[Sam James]

Even though you're a doctor?

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, that.

[Bronson Strickland]

That's pretty meaningless trivia.

[Giannis Patelis]

What if I told you that all of the questions today are about whitetails? Would that make you feel any different?

[Bronson Strickland]

A little better? Absolutely.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay.

[Bronson Strickland]

But also more embarrassed when I miss.

[Giannis Patelis]

Questions about white tail. Yeah, well, I, as I always hope when I host an episode, I hope I make them hard. But not too hard because no one likes it when I come in here with a bunch of hard questions. So I think there's some softballs in here. We'll see. Now, normally this is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters 4 Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. But this is Whitetail week. So in honor of North America's most pursued game animal. And every question today is about the whitetail deer. I was still able to work that into three out of the four verticals, but fishing stumped me. Normally the Prize is a $500 donation on behalf of the winner, but today that's also different. Today the winner will get a lifetime membership to the National Deer association, which is a fifteen hundred dollar value. Dr. Strickland, Ronson, Ted, tell folks why they should be a member of the National Deer Association.

[Bronson Strickland]

Because it is an organization all about deer, all about education, making people better hunters, better stewards, advocacy for deer. So it's just a wonderful organization made up of great people.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'll give them a little props. I find myself oftentimes unsubscribing from email lists because I'm like, I'm not reading the stuff you're sending me, NDA. I haven't. Now, I won't read every article that comes to my inbox. But there's a lot of them where I'm like, you know what? That could be good for me. And I read it.

[Sam James]

They do a very good job of bridging the gap between biologists like Dr. Strickland and hunters like us and like giving us good information that will make us better hunters, better land managers, just like have a better time in the woods and be more educated about whitetails.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yep. Now for the stat of the week, we're looking at the fat discounts you can get during Whitetail week. Obviously this is a script written by Spencer and he is just straight up plugging the sale that's going on during Whitetail week. So now through Sunday, October 5th, a bunch of our and your favorite whitetail gear is on sale, including the first light phase kit, the core kit and the thermic kit, all 30% off. The source jacket 40% off. You can get a Moultrie Edge 2 cell cam two pack for 100 bucks. That means you save 60 bucks off of if you're going to buy two separately. The FHF rifle sling bundle is 20% off. The Phelps Omega hybrid grunt tube is 40% off. And obviously there's a bunch bunch more. Basically all Sam just told me all meat eater brands are on sale this week. See the [e-mail] or theme eater.com who's got something? Sam? Yeah. What do you think? What are you excited about for this sale? What do you think is a good deal? I really like those Moultrie Edge two game cameras. Those are sweet. Get those out in the woods and get after it. I also there's some, some discounts on some meteor merch that's in the store too. Good whitetail gear.

[Sam James]

It has never been easier or cheaper to run a cell camera than like this very moment on earth. The cams are very good. The prices are cheap. The plans to run them monthly are reasonable. If you own some land, if you like have access to land and cell cams are legal, this is like the moment to do it if you've thought about it for a while.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. And if you set them up doing the solar thing, which I now have, I think on pretty much all of the cameras on our place. We have gone so long now without touching or being near some of these cameras that I'm coming to think that I have two, maybe three year old bucks that have seen that camera from the day they were born. I'm not messing around here. And they just simply don't have that adverse reaction that like when all of a sudden a three year old buck walks by it the first time and he's just like, you know, locks on the brakes and gives you the stick. Stare down and you don't see them again. Like, these bucks are just like. It's just part of their normal thing. They don't smell like. Maybe that's not a good, good thing. And they definitely don't smell like me anymore. Yeah.

[Sam James]

The kiln hoodie is also on sale this week. That's probably like my most used base layer on the website. It has, I think, 1200 reviews. It's like our most reviewed thing.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah.

[Sam James]

4.84 stars. So not only do I love it, but everyone who's purchased one.

[Giannis Patelis]

This would be a good trivia question. What was the kiln hoodie called before? It's called the kiln hoodie Klamath.

[Sam James]

No origin.

[Giannis Patelis]

That was a fleece one midway. Oh, the ljs, what was that called? I'm not gonna be a member either right now, but I would say that that piece, while you're thinking, I would say that piece is what put First Light on the map. Yeah, like I. I guided multiple hunters that would be wearing a wool hoodie. And I'd be like, what's that? This is long before I even knew about First Light. Oh, this is this First Light. I still have one in the original. They were like, I live in it.

[Sam James]

What's it called? Oh, God, that's gonna irritate me.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, go Phil. Can you google it for us while we're talking show right now? No, I said it would be a good trivia question. I didn't say I knew the answer. Again, watch. Chama.

[Sam James]

Was it the ch?

[Giannis Patelis]

You're right, the ch. Good work. Way to go, Brody.

[Sam James]

One point. Steel trap memory.

[Giannis Patelis]

Which is why it makes Brody a real trivia contender. White till week again, happening right now. First light dot com. Biggest sale of the year on our best whitetail specific products. No ifa, IFAQ or housekeeping today other than this fly. It buzzed around us all during the podcast.

[Sam James]

Too awful.

[Giannis Patelis]

It is. It'll be my bonus point to the player who kills it.

[Sam James]

Oh, just Phil's been killing some in the studio. Too many of them.

[Giannis Patelis]

Let's get some fly tape in here, Phil. Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, it might be good for acoustics as well. Phil, you ready? Yeah. Let's do it. The Jennifer Index today is a four, so our winner should get eight correct answers. Bronson, if you don't know, usually it's the Shelby Index. Who is Spencer's wife? She plays before we all play. And she gets a score usually double. Her score is what the winner will get. I ran my questions by my wife this morning. She got four right.

[Sam James]

And after going to the Madison tailgate tour and the Milwaukee store opening, a lot of folks now treat it as their barometer. That's who they're competing against.

[Giannis Patelis]

Each one, oh is against Shelby or.

[Sam James]

The Jennifer index or whatever the index is that week. So it now serves that purpose more than predicting the outcome.

[Giannis Patelis]

It made me feel good that she got four. Cause I'm like, it can't be that hard.

[Sam James]

There we go.

[Giannis Patelis]

Even though definitely a couple she just pulled out of her rear end. But all good. With that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil.

[Sam James]

Look, I need to know what I stand to win.

[Giannis Patelis]

Everything.

[Sam James]

How's that?

[Giannis Patelis]

You stand to win everything.

[Sam James]

Game on, suckers.

[Giannis Patelis]

The first question is, as always, multiple choice. It is also one of the listener submitted questions this week and it was sent in by Kevin Robinson of Missoula, Montana. Go cats. Go Grizz for sending this great question. Kevin is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to triviathemateater.com the question is what antlered big game species shares the same pope and young minimum entry score of 125 inches with typical white tailed deer? Is it Coos deer, Shirus moose, black tailed deer, or Dall sheep?

[Sam James]

This is a great question.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, it is. Good job, Kevin. Kevin had as a non multiple choice, which I thought was way too hard.

[Sam James]

It was good hosting by you, Yanni.

[Giannis Patelis]

Again, the question is what antlered big game species shares the same pope and young minimum entry score of 125 inches with typical whitetail deer? Is it coos deer, Shyrus moose, blacktail deer or doll sheep? Pny Jerry elk. Go Pny. Yanni, I think it will. You know, I'm gonna have you measure it. Yeah. Happy to break out the stretchy tape for you. I appreciate it. Does everybody have an answer? Yeah, I was gonna change.

[Sam James]

You don't want tape that stretches. Then it would score smaller.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, that's.

[Sam James]

Well, yeah, it's like non stretch.

[Giannis Patelis]

You measure it and then the usually a string or a cable and then.

[Sam James]

You get the stretchy tape out.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. Round up. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Ronson says blacktail deer. Sam Blacktail deer. Spencer Shyrus moose. Corey Dolls, sheep. Seth. Hard to read. Your name there, buddy? Shirus and Brody. Shyrus. We have some correct answers. It is Shyrus moose. Nice. Good job, fellas. The Pope and Young minimum for typical coos is 70 inches. Typical black tailed deer is 75 inches. And Dall sheep is 120 inches. Oh, see, that's where I was off shires. Moose inhabit parts of southern B.C. and Alberta and Canada, and mountainous regions of Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming and Colorado. In the US the world record archery shirus is 192 inches and was killed in Colorado. Has anybody in the room gone through the process of submitting an animal to Pope and Young? Nope.

[Sam James]

No.

[Giannis Patelis]

No, I haven't either. So I think maybe with that bowl of mine, we should do that and we'll have a little experience with it.

[Sam James]

If you had asked me before, right now what the Pope and Young minimum score for a Shirus moose is, I don't think I would have been within 40 inches.

[Giannis Patelis]

No, me neither.

[Sam James]

Thought of it.

[Giannis Patelis]

I would have been way higher.

[Sam James]

They don't have great big giant scores. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, they squirm weird.

[Giannis Patelis]

They do. All right, on to question two. The next question falls into our conservation vertical. In forestry, what does the acronym DBH stand for? Little bone here for my buddy Seth. I know that Dr. Strickland's gonna have this one right as well. The question again is, in forestry, what does the acronym DBH stand for? Like I said, bones here for Seth and Bronson. Their boards are down. Everybody else is thinking.

[Sam James]

Ask me about.

[Giannis Patelis]

BBD and I could tell you all day. Big bull down, Big bear down. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Once again, the question is, in forestry, what does the acronym DBH stand for? This is one that Jennifer got correct, which is not going to help anybody.

[Sam James]

She's an ecologist.

[Giannis Patelis]

She's an ecologist.

[Sam James]

Do you have this right, Brody?

[Giannis Patelis]

No.

[Sam James]

No. Good.

[Giannis Patelis]

Everybody have a question or an answer that's going to have an answer? Questions for sure.

[Sam James]

Yanni, have you seen Breaking Bad?

[Giannis Patelis]

Yes.

[Sam James]

This is like the Fly episode of Breaking Bad. Now, in here.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, I don't remember that episode. I didn't see it. Got too long for me. Oh. Oh. It only got better, though, bud. Well, that might maybe, but when they can't wrap it up, I don't like it.

[Sam James]

The Fly episode was controversial. It was the lowest rated episode of the highest rated season.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, it's a good episode.

[Sam James]

Yeah, no, I liked it.

[Giannis Patelis]

Now I have to go back and watch it. Sam. Oh, give me a sec. You about done writing? Yep. You drawing pictures? Look through that deer management thing. See if you can find it in there. There might be. I took a couple extra minutes to read that. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson says diameter, breast height. Sam density by 100. Spencer dead buck habitat. Cor Big, big holes. Seth Diameter at breast height. Brody Deer and bear habitat. The correct answer is diameter at breast height. Wow. According to the book Managing Oak Forests in the Eastern United States, foresters commonly evaluate the diameter of a tree at a standard height above ground to ensure consistency. Because trees have more swelling as you get closer to the ground, a measurement there would result in a greater diameter than if you measured two, four or six feet above ground. So years ago, this standard was developed at 4 1/2ft above ground. At this height, most of the swell is gone, and it is a convenient height for most adults. In fact, because 4.5ft above ground approximates breast height, the measure has come to be known as diameter at breast height or dbh. Ronson, tell us why dbh is important to a whitetail deer hunter in terms.

[Bronson Strickland]

Of managing your forest and in terms of monetizing the sale of your trees. You've got to keep keep track of what is the dbh and the basal area and the inventory and the board feed, et cetera, et cetera. So you can figure out either when to thin that stand for management or the final harvest. So that is the way. That would be the equivalent of Boone and Crockett score for me and Adir DB H's to a forester.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yep. I feel like when I jumped into the whole habitat management thing three, four years ago, that was like one of the first things where I was like, what? And then basal area kind of falls on the heels of that. And that was. That took a lot longer to understand than. Than diameter of breast height. But either way, I feel like it's one of the first things that you kind of. You have to learn when you're looking at managing a forest. On to question number. Oh, somehow my numbers went away. I think it's three. Yes. Hope you guys like this one. How many waypoint icons that specifically use the term whitetail does Onyx have? Nice, huh?

[Sam James]

Great question.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'll repeat the question. How many waypoint icons that specifically use the term whitetail does onyx have? What I love about it is that everybody here has used icons that say this. No. Haven't you? Come on. Never once? No. It's been a minute since I've really thought about whitetails. When I'm looking at onyx but how many Corey sees a whitetail, he's like, mark, this is the wrong place to be.

[Sam James]

I grew up hunting them, but it's been a minute.

[Giannis Patelis]

I was telling Bronson before we got started that when I first heard that bull bugle on Tuesday, I was like, oh, he's in the whitetail meadow. Because there's this one meadow that just always has. Sometimes it's a dose, and this is a buck, but there's like always a whitetail deer in this spot. And. But today there was a bull, or that day there was a nice six point bull.

[Sam James]

I aspire to be as organized as some folks on onyx, where I would have a whitetail icon for something, but it's mostly X's. A lot of them are red.

[Giannis Patelis]

My favorite icon to lay down is when I do, whether it's a whitetail icon or a elk icon. And then I color them black and it has someone's initials and the date and that serves as where the spot where that animal died.

[Sam James]

My favorite icon is green, because that's what I do when I have hunting permission on a place.

[Giannis Patelis]

Green means go.

[Sam James]

If I have a lot of green, it's looking up for me.

[Giannis Patelis]

Nice. I like it. All right, does everybody have an answer written down? It should be a number. Again, how many waypoint icons that specifically use the term whitetail does onyx have? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson 8. Sam 2. Spencer 1. Corey 2, Seth 2, Brody 2. We have one correct answer. It is one which is just a buck. Buck, Whitetail.

[Sam James]

I thought maybe, maybe a scrape or maybe doe.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, but they don't have. They don't use the term whitetail in it. The other deer related icons are named doe, buck, mule deer, and just simply buck, obviously. Yeah, we have other ones that are related, but look this up later. Yeah, only one that uses the term whitetail.

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[Giannis Patelis]

Meat onto the next question. Which cartridge has produced the most combined typical and non typical whitetail deer entries in the Boone and Crockett record books? That's not right. Time's up. I thought I messed up. Phil.

[Sam James]

22 rimfire at night. That'd be a problem.

[Giannis Patelis]

Sam. You're not gonna even write one down? I'm thinking. Okay. Again. Which cartridge has produced the most combined typical and non typical white tailed deer entries in the Boone and Crockett record books? You see how I hyphenated whitetail deer? I'm just. That's just for Pat Durkin. That's good. Good callfinger. Isn't he? Is he big on that too? Is he? I can't remember. I think he is. Yeah. Think.

[Bronson Strickland]

Wait.

[Giannis Patelis]

You.

[Bronson Strickland]

You intentionally put the hyphen.

[Sam James]

Wait.

[Giannis Patelis]

Tail. It should be white hyphen tailed. Oh. Then I messed up. Space deer. You're right.

[Sam James]

How do you write it? Dr. Strickland.

[Bronson Strickland]

White hyphen tailed.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. That's what I meant to do. Sorry. Pat.

[Sam James]

This is the honest version.

[Giannis Patelis]

We were talking earlier how it takes a. Takes a strong human to say I messed up. I'm wrong.

[Bronson Strickland]

Congrats to you on that.

[Giannis Patelis]

Everybody have an answer? Thanks.

[Sam James]

I bet this cartridge just blows the other ones out of the water. I would assume it's not close.

[Giannis Patelis]

I was guessing. That's what I'm hoping too. It's very interesting flavor text. Here. Here to come.

[Sam James]

I'm excited.

[Giannis Patelis]

Sam? No idea. Come on. We'll write a popular question. Okay. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson says 30 06. Sam 300. Spencer 30. 06. Corey 30. 06. Seth 30. 30. Brody 30. 06. The room did well. The correct answer is 30 ought six.

[Sam James]

Do you have. Do you have the top five? There's one baby or something.

[Giannis Patelis]

I don't quite have top five.

[Sam James]

But I would guess number two is maybe like a 270.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay. So let me read the flavor text and then we can discuss. 30. 06 has a total 555 entries. Second place is the 12 gauge shotgun with 536. And now I know it's not technically a cartridge but I thought it was worth mentioning as Method of take the actual second place cartridge is the.270. Even more interestingly, I found that if you add up all of the different draw weights of compounds and include longbows and recurves because for some reason they like to break it out by like 45 to 55, 55 to 70 and 70 up or whatever. If you add all of those up, that accounts for 14, 20 entries. So like people are hammering.

[Sam James]

Yeah, yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

Boone and Crockets with their bows. Right. That's also not including the 858 entries from Crossbows, which I found interesting. So like both of those beat the 30 odds because they're hunting during the rut in some states.

[Sam James]

A lot of states. I am still surprised that 12 gauge would be that high.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. But I just think there's a lot of shotgun only states, you know, if you're interested in messing around with that kind of information. I found this all using Boone and Crockett's video Big Game Records Live Weapon visualizer, which is a lot of fun to play around with.

[Sam James]

I think you have to be a member though, to use.

[Giannis Patelis]

You do?

[Sam James]

Yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

Y. Was that five, Phil? Was that four? That was four. Okay, number five. What is the name of the hardened fibrous tissue that replaces a white tailed deer's upper incisor teeth? The room looks shocked. Wait. Oh, I guess I can read it. What is the name of the hardened fibrous tissue that replaces a white tailed deer's upper incisor teeth?

[Sam James]

Bronson doesn't have an answer yet either. No, Makes me feel better about not knowing it.

[Giannis Patelis]

So, like, the deer doesn't have teeth there, but in place of those teeth, there is a tissue there. We've all carved it off. Probably preparing our skulls for boiling. And it has a name. This might be the hardest one. Okay, number six is going to be a softball. Okay. Don't get too down on yourself.

[Sam James]

All right, we're ready.

[Giannis Patelis]

Dr. Strickland, do you feel like at times in your life or your career you have known the name of this fibrous tissue? No. Oh, really?

[Bronson Strickland]

No, I don't.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, okay. I imagine it's the same on an elk.

[Bronson Strickland]

And it's a little bit of a trick question though.

[Giannis Patelis]

You think? Yeah. Oh, big trouble in Little China. How would it be the same on an elk? They have the same thing. Then what's an ivory? Well, those would be like canines or tusks. But I'm talking like. Like these teeth here. Up fronters. Yeah, up fronters. Like they don't have those Teeth. Gotcha. Instead, there's a hardened fibrous tissue. The answer is surprisingly simple. Yeah, but sweet.

[Sam James]

You got it, Corey.

[Giannis Patelis]

I think so. Actually, after that last little tidbit, Brody's still thinking. I gotta say so. When you host a trivia episode, I usually have, like, a list of running questions. And then Spencer lets me in on this document that has every question that's ever been asked in meter trivia. And if you're lucky, only, like, one or two of your questions have already been asked. I had four that hit me yesterday at like, 5pm like, golly, give me an example that was piebald had been used. I'd have to look at the other ones, but, yeah, it's a bummer.

[Sam James]

This was a replacement one that you were.

[Giannis Patelis]

You know, maybe.

[Sam James]

There you go.

[Giannis Patelis]

All right, go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson says cartilage. Sam, Bucktooth. That's a good one. Spencer. Fang tissue. Corey, calcium. Seth without an answer. And Brody says gums. We. That's a zero percenter. Today, the answer is dental pad. Oh, yeah. The dental pad acts as a cutting board for the lower incisors to cut against. The hard, rubbery pad helps them efficiently gather large quantities of plant matter by pinching it between the pad and their bottom teeth. The clip food then moves to the molars where it is ground into finer particles for digestion. Remember that for a zero percenter and upcoming.1 dental pad.

[Sam James]

Bronson, what do you think of a dental pad? Was that somewhere in your brain?

[Bronson Strickland]

I have heard that many, many, many years ago.

[Giannis Patelis]

Well, when I knew Bronson was coming on, I'm like, I got to have a couple hard ones. All right, since that was question five, it's time for a scoreboard update. Phil, at halftime, Sam James is not currently on the board yet. Zero points. Corey Calkins has one point. All tied up with two are Brody, Seth, and our guest, Bronson Strickland. And in first place, our host, Spencer Newharth, with three points. No surprise. Okay, anybody's game? Anybody's game? Sam, I think you're still in it big time. All right, on to question number six. The Fish fillets, Sweet Meat, Breakfast Loins, Weenie Loins, and Mud Veins are all nicknames for what chunk of meat in a deer Is this an upper Midwest thing? Come on, I know you've heard of one of those nicknames. Again, the question is, the Fish Fillets, Sweet Meat, Breakfast Loins, Weenie Loins, and Mud Veins are all nicknames for what chunk of meat in a deer.

[Sam James]

I like this. I Haven't heard.

[Giannis Patelis]

We use the fish a lot.

[Sam James]

Really?

[Giannis Patelis]

Do you use that term? Yep. I think that's one of the more popular ones. The fish.

[Sam James]

The fish ask him to use in a sentence.

[Giannis Patelis]

No, I think that would reveal the answer. Sweet meat. Looks like half the room's feeling pretty confident. Yeah, it's definitely upper Midwest, Northeast thing. Oh, did you get him?

[Sam James]

No, he did not. Yanni took a swipe.

[Giannis Patelis]

Need to bring Steve. Steve. Shotgun. If we had that assault gun. Okay, does anybody need more time? Everybody have an answer? All right, reveal your answers. Bronson, Tenderloins. Sam. Tenderloin. Spencer. Tenderloins. Tenderloins. Tenderloins. The correct answer is tenderloins. This is the deer's equivalent to filet mignon. The muscle is used very little by deer, making it extremely tender. I. I searched for a while, as much time as I could give it. Like, what does that muscle do? Do you know, Ronson? Like, what it. It doesn't do much. We know that. But what is its purpose?

[Bronson Strickland]

Hip stones. Sorry.

[Giannis Patelis]

Wouldn't it be late, early November? Hip thrusting would be my answer. Well, you know, jokingly, I have heard that multiple times that the only time they use that muscle is when they get up on their hind feet. I don't know, maybe nothing.

[Sam James]

And that's why it's being phased out.

[Giannis Patelis]

You're right. You're right. Maybe the does are even tender because they use them. They don't have to get on their back. Back legs. The mud veins. I've only heard that one time, but I had an elk hunting client who was lucky enough to draw one of Michigan's elk tags. Kills a bull, and the guide is gutting it, and he goes, hey, what do you want me to do with the mud veins? Maybe they're called mud veins because they use that muscle when they're taking a poo. Well, maybe. Well, but this guy's answer was close to the guts. He's like, oh, what are the mud veins? He's like, oh, these things right here, like, they taste like mud. They're close to guts. They're no good. Whoa.

[Sam James]

Tastes like mud.

[Giannis Patelis]

I take them out and I feed them to my dog. I've heard people talk about, well, yeah, but this client that I was guiding was like, yeah, I don't think so. Go ahead and put those in my cooler. You're not taking my mud veins. All right, next question is also a listener submitted question. It was submitted by Morgan Burks of West Virginia. And for sending this great question, Morgan is going to get a board game Signed by the crew. And if you want a chance to win listener question of the week, or maybe there's two that week, then send your question to triviameater.com the question is what state has the highest number of Boone and Crockett entries for whitetail deer? Oh, this is a fun one. Now, Bronson, you do some work with Boone and Crockett, correct?

[Bronson Strickland]

Uh huh. I'm a professional member.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay. Being a professional member, do you feel like these Boone and Crockett questions are like, is it helping you?

[Bronson Strickland]

I'm at no advantage.

[Giannis Patelis]

No advantage whatsoever. No. Okay.

[Bronson Strickland]

No, there's a few. Yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay.

[Sam James]

Not like us amateur members.

[Giannis Patelis]

Again, the question is what state has the highest number of Boone and Crockett entries for whitetail deer as of When? At like what, 5:00pm yesterday. 25. Yesterday. Yeah. Because I feel like there could have been some changes over time.

[Sam James]

Seth has destroyed the fly. He now has fly guts on his hat.

[Giannis Patelis]

Well done. Getting sick of that thing.

[Sam James]

We could have used you here like three hours ago.

[Giannis Patelis]

Speaking of hats, I got one of those camouflaged wired to hunt hats. It's got a little rope on it, just like that one. It's got a little eight point running across it. I heard it's on sale. It's on sale. But it's also become my first and ever lucky hunting hat. I've never had one and it just happened to be dang. That I killed a caribou and a bull wearing that hat. And usually I don't like going into the woods with just a regular ball cap because I feel like I get sweaty. And I'd much rather have something that's a little more techy, that dries faster. But I walked in the woods wearing that hat. Killed a bull Good.

[Sam James]

So it's the most popular hat in our office. So it might be a few people's. Yeah, lucky hunting hat soon.

[Giannis Patelis]

You have to let me get a lick of that hat. Rub off some of that good luck. Yeah, it's in the truck. Pervert. You would. You ready, Brody? All right, reveal your answers. Bronson. Wisconsin. Sam. Nebraska. Spencer. Wisconsin. The rest of the state says Wisconsin. You are correct. Wisconsin comes in up top with 1,822 entries.

[Sam James]

Can we guess the others?

[Giannis Patelis]

Do you have the rest of the. Have the next four?

[Sam James]

Texas, Pennsylvania.

[Giannis Patelis]

No, Pennsylvania is not on there.

[Sam James]

Michigan kill so many deer.

[Giannis Patelis]

No. Illinois. Ohio.

[Bronson Strickland]

Iowa. Illinois. Kansas.

[Giannis Patelis]

Ohio. Illinois is sec. Sorry. Illinois is second with 1,445. Kansas followed by Iowa at 1,330. Minnesota. 1,194. And rounding out the top five is Ohio with 1049. Yeah, I probably would have put. I was number one, I think, if I would have been asked that question. But as we've talked before with you, Spencer, you feel like this is. There's a bias there because you feel like Wisconsinites are just more into the whole Boone and Crockett process in the books and so they just submit more deer to Boone and Croc.

[Sam James]

That and I think Wisconsin kills way more deer than Iowa.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, you can. You can also go kill two bucks every year, whereas Iowa, you know, takes. You gotta draw Iowa and all that. Four years to draw or whatever.

[Sam James]

Yeah.

[Bronson Strickland]

And numbers wise, they have a bigger deer population, so they're going to produce more Boone and Crockets.

[Giannis Patelis]

More Boone and Crockets. There we go. This is great having Bronson here came around for a whole week of content. Okay, next question. We're still. We're hanging out in the record book category. In what state were the world record archery typical and non typical whitetail bucks killed?

[Sam James]

World record.

[Giannis Patelis]

It's one state.

[Sam James]

Okay.

[Giannis Patelis]

In what state were the world record archery typical and non typical bucks killed?

[Sam James]

Like currently the current world record?

[Giannis Patelis]

They are current world records. Unless I did my research wrong and misread something, I believe that both of them are from this state. Again, the question at this state that could give away. That'd be a little too much info. The question is why hunted this. In what state were the world record archery typical and non typical bucks killed? Got an answer, Seth? Did we. Did we have one of these people on the podcast? Oh, come on now. Simmer down. Just curious. Don't answer that. I can't answer it. I don't think it's gonna help. Oh.

[Sam James]

You can't answer.

[Giannis Patelis]

Do you want me to?

[Sam James]

No, I'd say don't.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay, let's just wait just a little bit, because if Bronson hasn't listened to that episode, I'd give the rest of you an unfair advantage. Okay, do you guys need more time? We're ready to go. Everybody's got state written down. Reveal your answers. Bronson, Kansas. Sam, Iowa. Spencer, Illinois. Corey, Indiana. Seth, Kansas. Brody, Kansas. We have again, one correct answer. It is Illinois. I saw Indiana.

[Sam James]

Didn't like that one.

[Giannis Patelis]

I thought it was gonna be Indiana. Me too. Mel Johnson killed the world record typical in 1965 with the Trad bow. And Luke Brewster killed the world record non typical in 2018. I believe it was with a compound. Johnson's typical scores 204/4. Brewster's, non typical scores.327, 7/eights. Johnson killed his on October 29th and Brewster on November 2nd, proving that late October and early November are great time frames to be in the woods if you're looking for a monster buck.

[Sam James]

I interviewed Luke when he killed that buck and wrote about it on our website. So you could go find something on the Meat Eater.

[Giannis Patelis]

And you got that question right?

[Sam James]

Yes. I was at a big advantage there.

[Giannis Patelis]

Good job.

[Sam James]

Luke Brewster's buck.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, I found it great that the guy killed it with a trad bow. What year was it? 65. Oh, come on. I know, but there was probably a couple wheeled bows around.

[Sam James]

Sure.

[Giannis Patelis]

But I don't think it's that unusual.

[Sam James]

He was in a 3030 though.

[Giannis Patelis]

He was also wearing a flannel shirt, no camo.

[Sam James]

Probably Luke Brewster's buck. If you think you know what a giant non typical world record whitetail looks like, you actually don't like. You need to go see pictures of it. It's that insane. There's just so much antler happening and so much of it coming towards the ground as opposed to vertically. It's big Buck.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, it's. It's amazing. I bet it's heavy. I'd like to know how much. How much those antlers weigh.

[Sam James]

Yeah, it's got mass.

[Giannis Patelis]

And he's heavy. That's right. Just like Jeff Foxworthy said once.

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[Giannis Patelis]

How many states can you legally hunt white tailed deer in? I didn't hyphenate it this time. How many states?

[Sam James]

It's a lot of them.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yes, it is a lot of them. You might think about counting the ones that you can't hunt them in. To get your answer, say that.

[Bronson Strickland]

It'S whitetail. Including cows.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yes. Like the pronunciation. Bronson, H. Again, the question is, how many states can you legally hunt white tail deer in? A lot of thinking going on in here. It's very warm in this room when we get late in the game. Brody's got an answer, Bronson's writing one down. I think everybody's got something written down. Swinging for the fences on this one. All right, fellas, this is question nine. Giannis, what it is? Well, we could. Let's do our score update before you do it. After nine, I guess.

[Sam James]

There we go.

[Giannis Patelis]

Sorry again. When I copy and paste that, something went wrong with the formatting, go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson, 45, Sam, 43. Spencer, 45, Corey, 49, Seth, 47 and Brody, 49. Spencer and Bronson. Got it correct. I thought it could be a trick.

[Sam James]

Like you can legally kill them in Alaska despite them not living there.

[Giannis Patelis]

That's what I was thinking. Like, they. If they're there, you can shoot them. Yeah. Maybe I should have phrased it differently, but you got it the way I was thinking through it. Yeah. The ones you cannot hunt whitetail deer in are Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, California, and Utah. AI actually tried to tell me that Arizona didn't either, but we all know it's not true because Arizona is packed with cows, deer, which are a white tail. What were the states? You can't again. Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, California, and Utah.

[Sam James]

I wrote down Oregon, but they must have a season for the Columbia whitetail.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. You kill them in Utah? Not that I saw you.

[Sam James]

You can kill them in the northern part of the state. I looked at doing it there once because they have some white tail habitat.

[Giannis Patelis]

But do they have a whitetail season or a whitetail tag?

[Sam James]

I don't know. My guess is no. It's just deer. And I remember when I was looking into it, it was like once every few years, somebody would kill one, like right on the Utah border.

[Giannis Patelis]

And there's no Colombian whitetail in California?

[Sam James]

I don't think so. I think you can hunt.

[Giannis Patelis]

The only place I could find Colombian whitetail was no.

[Sam James]

Washington, Oregon.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm only seeing a mule deer season. Can we move on or do we make adjustments?

[Sam James]

We'll all just get that one correct. I think the game would be more interesting if I got it wrong, which I think I probably did, because I think Brody is right about Utah not being one of them.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, so you think it's 46?

[Sam James]

I think so.

[Giannis Patelis]

That means everybody got it wrong then. Yeah. Nobody had 46. Right. Well, I mean, you should look it up.

[Sam James]

See, is it legal to kill whitetails in Utah.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'm sure. Bill, are you on it? Well, I mean. I mean, yeah, that's what I just. I just looked up and so far I'm only seeing mule deer for having like an archery and rifle season. General. Yeah, I'm not. I specifically searched for whitetail as well, and the first thing that came up is mule deer, but I haven't dug deep at all. So going to the deep AI mode.

[Sam James]

Do your scoreboard update and the correct answer review and I will try to get an answer in the meantime.

[Giannis Patelis]

Let's do it. Well, if there are no revisions to the score, Spencer does indeed win the game because he cannot be caught by the second place player, who is our guest. Bronson with five points, Spencer has seven, and then behind them are Brody and Seth with four, Corey with three, and Sam with one. Bronson, Excellent showing.

[Bronson Strickland]

Well, thank you.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yes. As it is legal to kill white tear in whitetail in Utah, but only.

[Sam James]

If you obtain the proper hunting license and permit.

[Giannis Patelis]

All right, so technically, was that an AI answer? Well, I'm look, I'm. I'm looking at some more stuff. Yeah. And they're always right. Yeah. Okay. For a correct question.

[Sam James]

Maybe not.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, I don't know. You'd have to dig deeper. Correct question review. Question 1 with Shyrus Moose 2 diameter at breast height. 314-30-06, Springfield. 5. Dental Pad 6. The Inner Loins or Tenderloins 7, Wisconsin 8, 45. Are you sure? Am I just doing my math around. Did I do four twice Again, this num. This numbering thing is really messing me up. You had 10 questions, Giannis. I didn't. I didn't. You know, I made sure to count them. We've done nine questions. I don't know. Thank you. Yeah. Here's a forum from 28 Illinois for nine.

[Sam James]

A forum for 2018. That's not necessarily accurate. That are saying whitetails are protected in Utah. So I don't know if that is legit or not.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay, well, it's not going to change the score, unfortunately, today, because you and Bronson had the same answers. So it would just deduct one from each of you guys. Oops. But it would make it a. It'd make it a real, real battle for second, I guess if Bronson was down to four. Let's bring him back down.

[Sam James]

There we go.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh. Let's go on to question 10. Is there a chance. No. No chance for a tiebreaker? Nope. Using USDA calculations, order these meats in caloric density from highest to lowest. Lean ground beef skin on pheasant, venison and catfish fillets. Lean ground beef. I got this information by literally going to their website and just punching in calories. One pound. And then the name of the meat. They had it as venison. Not broken out by species. Nope. Highest. The lowest. Yep. Which one has the most calories? Down to the least.

[Bronson Strickland]

Dumb question. Is lean ground beef, like relatively lean? The proportion of fat in it is less or zero fat ground beef.

[Giannis Patelis]

I think lean's like anything like 90. And. Well, they have one that's called 90% lean. Yeah, I don't think they can call.

[Sam James]

It lean unless it's a certain.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. Percentage.

[Sam James]

But I don't know what that percentage is.

[Giannis Patelis]

Either way. Yeah. Different than my answer.

[Sam James]

I'll tell you that.

[Giannis Patelis]

The question is, using USDA calculations, order these meats in caloric density from highest to lowest. Lean ground beef skin on pheasant, venison and catfish fillets. Looks like the USDA defines lean as being at least 90. Okay.

[Sam James]

I'm just trying to hit that Jennifer index.

[Giannis Patelis]

What do you got? Are you close? I'm at three. Oh.

[Sam James]

Answers.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, shit. Different than yours.

[Sam James]

Oh, I really disagree.

[Giannis Patelis]

Well, I don't think I disagree. I mean, just going by personal preference here, maybe. Everybody have an answer? Where'd these catfish come from? I got a buggy, boys.

[Bronson Strickland]

That's a valid question. I mean, were they farm raised?

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah.

[Sam James]

Seth's Pond.

[Giannis Patelis]

What's it is a valid question. What's he eating on? Yep. Again. Again. This is what the USDA said for a pound of catfish fillets.

[Bronson Strickland]

If they're Mississippi Delta farm raised. Aquaculture, there'll be a lot of fat in the fish.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, but I feel like those flatheads that we caught on the Missouri, they had a lot of fat too. Oh.

[Sam James]

I was operating as though this was a channel catfish.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh. Yeah. That's the thing is there's a lot of non specificity in these. I was thinking of the. Oh, you were picturing a flathead.

[Sam James]

Okay. I was picturing a channel.

[Giannis Patelis]

I bet you that's what they're going off. You guys all ready to reveal your answers? Please. Bronson says ground beef, pheasant, catfish, venison. Sam. Beef, pheasant, venison, catfish. Spencer. Beef, venison, pheasant, catfish. Cory, Pheasant, venison, catfish, beef. Seth, Catfish, beef, venison, pheasant, Brody. Pheasant, catfish, lean ground beef, venison. Okay, I think one person got it. One person. Right? And I think that that's Bronson. No, it was Sam. Oh, it's Sam.

[Sam James]

So what was it?

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, yeah, the venison is last.

[Bronson Strickland]

Oh, man.

[Giannis Patelis]

No, no, no, no, no. Brian's got it. I was okay, Giannis, the formatting of this document is a nightmare. Hey, look who it is. Hey, hey. Steven Rinola.

[Sam James]

Ask him, Steve, which of those has the most calories?

[Giannis Patelis]

You don't know? And for a pound slice of pizza, who has the most calories? Who has the least. Oh, what's the question? Why don't you read the answer and whoever has it'll raise their hand. How's the correct order? Is lean ground beef, skin on, pheasant, catfish, venison. Okay, so Bronson did get that one. Yes. Okay, for a pound of meat, lean ground beef has 1250 calories. Skin on pheasant has 672, catfish fillets have 653. And venison has a mere 544 calories, which is why we're always adding fat to our ground meat, cooking our steaks and butter. So that makes Spencer our winner. Spencer wins every time I host. I don't know how that happens.

[Sam James]

Well, you guess host the most, so that makes a difference. We must just share the same brain, Yanni.

[Giannis Patelis]

I guess so. I guess so. He's seen all these questions before.

[Sam James]

Yeah, access to documents.

[Giannis Patelis]

And he interviewed the guy. Yeah, but you said. You said you went through the pool of questions that Spencer has.

[Sam James]

That's a sheet that has every question from the board games that's ever been used.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, and if I. If my question comes up there, I can't use it. Oh, for that reason. Yeah. I mean, come on. Okay, thank you all for playing. Remember again, it's Whitetail week. Go check out the great sales great stuff we [e-mail] first light.com. anything else to add, Spencer? After your great win here, I don't.

[Sam James]

Have to buy a yearly membership anymore. Now to NDA.

[Giannis Patelis]

Way to go. No, he's not. What do you want? What do you want, Steve?

[Steven Rinola]

I was curious from a listener perspective. Do people appreciate your hosting?

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, I don't know. I have to ask Spencer.

[Sam James]

Yes. We'll find out. They like some variety.

[Giannis Patelis]

Read the comments. Read the comments. I will. So thank you all for playing and listening along at home. We'll see you next week on Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Thank you. Thanks, Johnny. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down and he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

[Sam James]

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