Ep. 775: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXV

Summary

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The MeatEater Podcast

Ep. 775: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXV

Release Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Spencer Newharth
Notable Participants: Giannis Patelis, Brody, Randall, Seth, Corey, Maggie, Jordan

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Overview

This lively installment of MeatEater Trivia pits regulars and special guests against each other in the ultimate outdoors-themed quiz show where "conservation always wins." Hosted with Spencer Newharth’s signature humor and rapid-fire pace, the crew tackles questions spanning hunting, fishing, natural history, conservation, wild foods, gear, and more. This episode also spotlights new MeatEater projects, behind-the-scenes stories, and a record-breaking trivia battle that stretches into double overtime—all in the service of donating to conservation causes.

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Episode Structure & Key Segments

1. Intros, Guest Updates, and MeatEater News

00:56 – 08:36

• Guests Introduced:
  Jordan returns, plugging her new true crime outdoor podcast “Blood Trails,” releasing its first full season on October 30th (01:32). The pilot covered the mysterious disappearance of a deer hunter, involving wild theories and “a nun, and John Wayne Gacy potentially.”
  Quote:
  “This is MeatEater’s first foray into true crime. These are stories about hunters, anglers, campers, hikers, public land users, people getting into pretty serious trouble in the outdoors.” — Jordan (01:41)

• Upcoming Food Episode Teased:
  Maggie Hudlow and Brody reminisce about “college kids cooking bear meat” with some sketchy food safety moments and meat thermometers (04:45).

• Mailbag and Show Logistics:
  How listener-submitted trivia questions are used and credited.
  Brody jokes to bypass the backlog by DMing him directly for faster consideration (07:14).

• Live Tour Announcement:
  The crew hypes the upcoming MeatEater Christmas Tour, noting that Fayetteville is already sold out.

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2. MeatEater Trivia Game: Questions, Answers & Commentary

08:36 – 42:55

Format:

10 rounds, covering four categories (hunting, fishing, conservation, cooking); everyone plays for a $500 donation to a conservation org chosen by the winner.

Sample Questions & Discussion Highlights:

• Q1 (Hunting):
  Distinguishing a “redhead” from a canvasback, cinnamon teal, ring neck, or goldeneye.
  Answer: Canvasback
  Fun facts on duck ID and fluctuating populations (11:00).
  Quote:
  “Canvas backs are bigger with a longer forehead and red eye; redheads are smaller with a shorter forehead and a yellow eye.” — Spencer (11:40)

• Q2 (Fishing):
  Which outdoor brand launched "Performance Fishing Gear" (PFG) in 1996?
  Answer: Columbia (13:07)
  Host notes Gert Boyle’s original pocketed fishing vest.

• Q3 (Natural History):
  Where does the Iditarod ceremonial race start?
  Answer: Anchorage (16:36)
  Some confusion about the actual finish in Nome.

• Q4 (Cooking):
  Regional terms like taverns, wimpies, steamers, and barbecue refer to which dish?
  Answer: Sloppy Joe (19:15)
  Fun side chat: different regional names and recipes (20:00).

• Q5 (Hunting):
  Seven-letter word for spiral grooves in a gun barrel.
  Answer: Rifling (22:29)
  Goofy banter as Giannis momentarily blanks on the answer.
  Quote:
  “My brain was farting big time on that one.” — Giannis (22:45)

• Q6 (Wildlife | Listener Question):
  Most popular animal tattoo in America, 2022 data.
  Answer: Butterfly (27:36)
  Crew guesses various insects and regional trends, then discusses other trendy animal tats (28:16).

• Q7 (Cooking):
  Clooney line about gopher in which 2000 film?
  Answer: O Brother, Where Art Thou? (32:43)
  Movie trivia fun, Cohen Brothers’ film linked to The Odyssey.

• Q8 (Fishing):
  Type of hook that “sets itself” and reduces gut-hooked fish?
  Answer: Circle hook (35:44)
  J Hooks vs. Circle Hooks discussed.

• Q9 (Gear):
  White Flyer is best known for manufacturing what, labeled “fragile as eggs”?
  Answer: Clay pigeons (39:20)
  Brief history from glass balls to live pigeons.

• Q10 (Conservation):
  How many Gulf Coast states have a national park?
  Answer: Two (42:14)
  Texas and Florida only.

Scoreboard as of End of Game (Before Overtime):

• Tied for 1st: Randall, Brody, Seth (7 points)
• Right behind: Jordan (6 points)
• Other high scorers recognized.

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3. Double Overtime Showdown

42:55 – 50:05

• First Tiebreaker:
  What number president was Teddy Roosevelt?
  Correct Answer: 26th (47:01)
  Randall and Brody both guess within three, so it goes to second overtime.

• Second Tiebreaker:
  According to Indeed, what is the average hourly pay for a butcher in 2025?
  Correct Answer: $19.08/hr (49:28)
  Randall wins by edging out Brody’s guess.

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4. Conservation Donation & Closing Roundup

50:05 – End

• $500 Donation Chosen:
  Captains for Clean Water
  Reason: “...A great group that works on all kinds of marine fisheries stuff. I think they do a lot with the Everglades and...involves charter boat captains, guides. Folks who are on the water every day and know the issues facing our fisheries better than most.” — Randall (50:47)

• Closing Banter:
  Thanks to guests, inside jokes, and the promise of more trivia next week.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This is MeatEater’s first foray into true crime. These are true crime stories about hunters, anglers, campers, hikers, public land users, people getting into pretty serious trouble in the outdoors.” — Jordan (01:41)
• “My brain was farting big time on that one. It just wasn’t happening.” — Giannis (22:45), struggling with “rifling”
• “Clay pigeon shooting replaced glass ball shooting, and glass ball shooting replaced live pigeon shooting.” — Spencer (39:27), connecting modern gear to odd historical origins
• “A third of a gopher would only rouse my appetite without bedding her back down.” — George Clooney (as quoted from O Brother, Where Art Thou?) (31:32)
• “There’s pretty strong overlap between that list and the list of like the most generic 15 animals you’d find in a kid’s coloring book.” — Randall, on the most popular animal tattoos in America (29:21)
• “I’m glad we’re not going to a third overtime because I think by then I will truly have expired.” — Randall, after finally winning (50:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:56 – 08:36: Guest updates, news, and tour announcements
• 08:36 – 42:55: 10-round Trivia game, including category, questions, group answers, and running commentary
• 42:55 – 50:05: Double overtime: presidential trivia + butcher average hourly wage
• 50:05 – 51:18: Conservation donation and closing banter

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Takeaways

• This episode exemplifies the playful, informative, and conservation-minded spirit of MeatEater.
• Listeners are treated to outdoor and hunting facts, quirky pop culture, and candid guest chemistry.
• Practical discussion is mixed with humorous asides and regional folklore, giving both trivia fans and outdoors enthusiasts something to chew on.
• The $500 conservation donation is both a prize and a reminder of the show’s broader mission.

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode delivers a fun learning experience that celebrates the quirks and questions of outdoor life, finished with a healthy dose of camaraderie and competition.

Transcript

[Announcer]

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[Spencer Newharth]

Foreign welcome to meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth and today we're joined by Giannis Brody, Randall, Seth, Corey, Maggie and Jordan. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from meat eaters. Four verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. And there is a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the Conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Jordan, welcome to the show. It's been a minute since you've been here.

[Jordan]

It has, yeah. Thank you.

[Spencer Newharth]

What are you doing in town this week? There's always a reason when you're here.

[Jordan]

There is. Well, so I've been working on a new podcast series called Blood Trails. We published the first episode, kind of a pilot episode, back in March and people seem to like it. So we're going to do a full season. First episodes coming out October 30th. If you didn't get a chance to watch or to listen to the first episode, this is Meat Eater's first foray into true crime. So these are true crime stories about hunters, anglers, campers, hikers, public land users, people getting into pretty serious trouble in the outdoors.

[Spencer Newharth]

Example one of the first episode you did, it was a turkey hunter who was killed, right?

[Jordan]

That's right.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, give me an example of an upcoming episode that you have this season.

[Jordan]

So the first episode, I believe at this point is about a deer hunter in Wisconsin. And this, this, his, his name was Robert Christian, he went by Bob. And he was going out for the first day of bow hunting season. So this, and this was all the way back in 1977. So he was kind of an early adopter as far as bow hunting goes. He was supposed to meet his friend. They, they were gonna spend the night at the friend's house. On Friday night and then go out to hunt the opener on Saturday. But Bob never showed up to his friend's house. He disappeared on the way between Madison, Wisconsin and Baraboo, Wisconsin. Okay, they found his car, but no Bob. And so that episode is just about the investigation into that disappearance. And to this day, no one knows what happened.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right, who do you talk to? Who did you talk about for that episode?

[Jordan]

Talk to Bob's sister. I talked to the friend that he was supposed to hunt with. I talked to the detective who's kind of leading the investigation at this point. And there's some. I mean, there's a lot of crazy details.

[Spencer Newharth]

The.

[Jordan]

The story involves a nun. It involves. It involves John Wayne Gacy potentially, who, if you don't know, is killer clown, very famous serial killer out of Chicago. He was in the area around the time that Bob disappeared. So that is one theory. And so, you know, there's enough, I would say, to have some interesting theories about what happened, but no one quite knows for sure.

[Spencer Newharth]

Pilot episode was very entertaining. A lot going on on that show. Again, is it October 31st?

[Jordan]

October 30th, first episode. The plan is to release an episode a week after that.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. It's on its own feedback called.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's on its own feed. So please, once it comes out, you know, go listen to that first episode. If you like it, please subscribe that way or follow, I guess, on Spotify or, you know, whatever platform you use. That way it'll tell you when the next episode comes out.

[Spencer Newharth]

Looking forward to it. Maggie Hudlow, another out of towner. What are you doing here this week?

[Announcer]

Oh, you know, I'm just poking around the office, hanging out while some college kids cook us some food at roasts.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. Very excited for that episode.

[Announcer]

And Yani, we were treated to some interesting.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Announcer]

College kid cuisine.

[Spencer Newharth]

And I heard it was your idea to get the meat thermometer out for the bear meat.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Announcer]

Yeah. Well, Brody spotted the. The bloody burgers and I was like, let's get a thermometer.

[Brody]

No, I don't want to give it away.

[Spencer Newharth]

Giannis told me and I. I had a very audible laugh.

[Brody]

He first temperature reading.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, it was. It was two digits right before they.

[Brody]

Were about to be served.

[Spencer Newharth]

Now I tune in for that.

[Randall]

This is. These are college kids and I suggested last week that we just over serve them a little bit and give them a fridge full of leftovers.

[Brody]

Well, it's not even reheated. Old enough to drink, but Yannis said.

[Randall]

That was the worst idea. I've ever had.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, no, it wouldn't have helped.

[Randall]

It would have said it was the worst idea.

[Spencer Newharth]

Maybe you always have good ideas and that was just the worst of the good ideas. That's what he meant.

[Randall]

I didn't read it that way.

[Brody]

Yeah, okay, so maybe you would rescinded that idea.

[Giannis]

Randall, we can't as a company get 18 year olds drunk.

[Randall]

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[Brody]

Yeah.

[Randall]

No, that's a good call. I didn't even think of that.

[Spencer Newharth]

What's the smoking age in Montana though? You could.

[Randall]

Oh, that's a good maybe.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. Now we're back on track.

[Randall]

Yep.

[Brody]

Yep.

[Randall]

We should have had a collaboration.

[Announcer]

Isn't that also 20?

[Giannis]

I think it's 21.

[Spencer Newharth]

No. All right.

[Jordan]

No, no.

[Phil]

Back to the drawing board.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Brody]

A bunch of people with the munchies cooking.

[Randall]

I. I hadn't even thought of that. But yeah, that. That was a bad idea.

[Spencer Newharth]

Then Maggie and Brody are hosting that upcoming episode. No, they're judging that upcoming episode of Some College Kids Cook Bear Meat.

[Brody]

It's a fun one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Very. Tune in. All right, here's our infrequently asked question segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it to trivia@the mediator.com with the subject line IFAQ BEGINS. Ben Lambie says, how are listeners notified that their question is being used? They're not, Ben. I'm sorry, You. You are notified when you hear your name on the show. Or sometimes you get an email from our guy Roman who will contact you if you will win our listener question of the week and get your address so we can send you that board game. I am usually a good month behind in the Mediator inbox and then sometimes I like your question, but I squirrel it away for a future episode. Because if the answer is like Kentucky, and I just had the answer Kentucky last week, then I don't want to use it in back to back episodes. So to answer your question, Ben, you just hear your name on the show.

[Brody]

Can I chime in because I'm hosting soon.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yep.

[Brody]

If you want to skip that whole process, send me some questions on my Instagram.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, okay. There you go.

[Brody]

And then I'll let you know. You won't have to wait.

[Randall]

And if you'd rather have me ask those questions, send it to my Instagram instead.

[Spencer Newharth]

And for every other question you want to send, just email [e-mail] for housekeeping. Today we want to give you one more reminder that tickets are now on sale for the Meater Live Christmas Tour. Steve, Giannis, Clay, Randall and Brent are headed south in December with stops in Birmingham, Nashville, Memphis, Fville, Dallas and Austin. Tickets are going fast. So fast, in fact, that Fayetteville is already sold out. Head over to the Meater.com events for more info on the tour and how to get your tickets.

[Brody]

Spencer, can you just send me that copy so I can repeat it tomorrow for Radio Live?

[Spencer Newharth]

We can do that. You're going to hear a lot about the live tour. Again, Ful. They must have a lot of randomals down there that they're already sold out. Well, I can't think of why else.

[Randall]

I think they have some.

[Giannis]

Yeah, you're probably right. Random.

[Randall]

Some claniacs.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, I like that. That's good.

[Jordan]

You just come up with that?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, the wheels were turning like Brent. Brent, what do you got for that? Brentamaniac? Brentimals.

[Randall]

I don't know.

[Spencer Newharth]

We're gonna have to you noodle on that. Yep.

[Randall]

Yep.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right, the Shelby index for today is a four. So our winner should get eight correct answers. And with that, we're onto the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? You stand to win?

[Announcer]

Game on, suckers.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question 1. The topic is hunting, and as always, this will be multiple choice. Audubon, Ducks Unlimited and the Cornell Lab have all published articles on how to distinguish between a redhead and a blank. Is it canvas, back, cinnamon, teal, ring neck or goldeneye? Audubon, Ducks Unlimited and the Cornell Lab have all published articles on how to distinguish between a redhead and a blank. Your four choices. Canvas, back, cinnamon, teal, ring neck, goldeneye. Yanni, our first answer in the room. Do you have this one right, Yanni?

[Giannis]

I believe so.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, I think I know why you would know this. We could talk about it after the flavor text. Audubon, Ducks Unlimited and the Cornell Lab have all published articles on how to distinguish between a redhead and a blank.

[Brody]

Giannis, did you ever get into shooting those golden eyes on the river back when we lived in Colorado? No. No.

[Giannis]

And Steve kind of got really into it when we first moved here to Bozeman, but not my thing to shoot ducks. I don't like to eat.

[Brody]

Right.

[Giannis]

Speaking of ring necks. Different kind of ring neck. But we've had a rooster in our yard.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is that new? On the Putelis property?

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Brody]

A wild in your yard?

[Giannis]

I believe so. I mean, he looks vibrant, healthy, all his tail feathers. He's coming to get a little scratch around the chicken coop.

[Brody]

A little over A week till pheasant season opens.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. Is he safe?

[Giannis]

Oh, it is. I thought October 1st was the opener.

[Spencer Newharth]

No. Oh, you did. You didn't break the law?

[Giannis]

No. I was telling daughter's that when he.

[Randall]

Left home today, he said, remember, today's the opener.

[Giannis]

Okay.

[Spencer Newharth]

He's waiting to get a good pattern.

[Giannis]

That's like a full on mountain pheasant.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Like to live off there.

[Giannis]

Right.

[Spencer Newharth]

That thing ain't anywhere near some crp.

[Giannis]

Not even kind of.

[Spencer Newharth]

Again, to distinguish between a redhead and a blank canvas back. Cinnamon teal, ring neck, goldeneye. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Giannis, canvas back. Jordan, canvas back. Randall, cinnamon teal. Maggie, canvas back. Seth, Corey and Brody all say canvas back. They got it. The correct answer is a canvas. Back in the 1970s, canvas backs outnumbered redheads by two to one. But today, there are more redheads than canvas backs. Managing these fluctuating populations is why it's crucial for hunters to be able to tell the difference. Some identifying features are that canvas backs are bigger with a longer forehead and red eye, while redheads are smaller with a shorter forehead and a yellow eye. Usually a red head has a more gray body while a canvas back has a more white body. Here is a picture of the two.

[Phil]

Hey, Spencer definitely did not prep this.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, that's okay. We don't have a picture of the two.

[Phil]

I'm going to add it in post. How about.

[Spencer Newharth]

Did you know.

[Brody]

Did you know that almost all the redheads in North America winter in Laguna Madre?

[Spencer Newharth]

I did not know that. Okay. It's a lot of redheads to put there.

[Randall]

Canvas back was my number two guess, but I couldn't picture what any of them looked like.

[Spencer Newharth]

Now, I believe there is a U.S. fish and Wildlife Service poster in our kitchen where the judges sit that says, here's how to. Here's how to identify between a canvas back and a redhead. There is so nice little bone for Yanni on that one.

[Brody]

What's the nickname for king size?

[Spencer Newharth]

Is it king canvas? Oh, here is our picture. Now. Do you know the difference? Brody, I'm going to ask you first, which one is which?

[Brody]

I think that's a redhead on the left and canvas back on the right.

[Spencer Newharth]

Final answer?

[Brody]

Think so.

[Spencer Newharth]

You got it again. A redhead on the left, a canvas back on the right, but never shot either of them in flight. They look pretty dang similar. All right, question two. The topic is fishing. This outdoor apparel brand introduced their performance fishing gear, or PFG for short, in 1996.

[Brody]

Oh, I need a new Marker.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall, can you serve Brody?

[Brody]

I think this one's lucky.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm gonna stick with it. Okay, you're gonna throw it though, in the garbage.

[First Light Sponsor]

Marker roll.

[Spencer Newharth]

Wow, that was impressive.

[Randall]

I thought I'd get more compliments than just Spencer's based on how good that roll was.

[Spencer Newharth]

Still none. They still refused.

[Giannis]

It was our given.

[Randall]

Everybody's still considering how that stacks up against other marker throws they've seen. I get it.

[Spencer Newharth]

This out apparel brand introduce their performance fishing gear or pfg.

[Brody]

You know if you started pumping iron that your tattoo would get bigger.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, there you go.

[Giannis]

No, I didn't know that.

[Randall]

He's past his prime.

[Spencer Newharth]

You think about it. Sounds like a waste of time.

[Giannis]

Turn it from a 320 into a 360 booner.

[Spencer Newharth]

This outdoor apparel brand introduced their performance fishing gear, or PFG for short, in 1996. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Giannis says Columbia. Jordis, Jordan says Randall, Maggie, Seth, Corey and Brody say Columbia. They got it. The correct answer is Columbia. Columbia made their first fishing vest in 1961. It was created by founder Gert Boyle, who said her husband requested a multi pocketed fishing shirt. Today, Columbia designs their PFG line of clothes to go quote from the boat to the bar. Question 3. The topic is natural history. This next great question is via Colton Taylor. The Iditarod Trail Sled Dog race has a ceremonial start in blank and official start the next day in Willow.

[Randall]

I would have preferred that you ask where the official start was.

[Spencer Newharth]

Nobody would have got that one right after it.

[Brody]

Tired of this marker.

[Spencer Newharth]

The Iditarod Trail sled dog race has a ceremonial start in blank and official start the next day in Willow.

[Phil]

When your marker's having issues, most of the time it's not a marker issue. It's cuz the board is not clean.

[Brody]

Well, how do I clean my board with?

[Spencer Newharth]

You got to get a crappy eraser board cleaner.

[Phil]

Yeah, you want to get a little spray bottle that has actual dry eraser.

[Randall]

Did you look this up, Phil, or have you been hiding this information for years?

[Phil]

I've been hiding it for years. I haven't.

[Randall]

News to me.

[Spencer Newharth]

The Iditarod Trail sled dog race has a ceremonial start in blank.

[Brody]

No, I'm not buying that.

[Spencer Newharth]

Official start the next day in Willow. How's the new marker working, Brody? Is it a marker problem or a whiteboard problem?

[Brody]

I haven't decided yet.

[Randall]

Okay, need another marker toss.

[Brody]

I'll try the black one next.

[Spencer Newharth]

Giannis, do you have an answer yet?

[Giannis]

Not yet. Okay, Is everybody waiting on me?

[Spencer Newharth]

The rest of the whiteboards are down.

[Brody]

Wait a min.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, okay. No, no. Okay. Brody had second thoughts, and then he had third thoughts.

[Brody]

I'm waffling on start and finish.

[Spencer Newharth]

His first thought was better. Yanni, you ready?

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Giannis and Jordan and Randall saying Anchorage. Maggie says Juno, Seth, Fairbanks, Corey, gnome. Brody, gnome.

[Randall]

Back in the game.

[Spencer Newharth]

The correct answer is Anchorage.

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Side of the room got it right. This side of the room did not. The trail ends in Nome, Alaska, which is 938 miles long along the race. Although the race has only been going on since 1973, it follows trails that humans have been using for thousands of years. The record time was set in 2021, when Dallas Seavee finished the race in 7 days, 14 hours, 8 minutes and 57 seconds. Question 4. The topic is cooking. Regional names for this dish include taverns, wimpies, spoon burgers, steamers, and barbecue.

[Randall]

Barbecue.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall, the only player with an answer. Regional names for this dish include taverns, wimpies, spoon burgers, steamers, and barbecue.

[Giannis]

I think you should tell us how detailed the answer has to be. Like, give one of your examples of, like, if it's.

[Spencer Newharth]

The answer is, I'm not going to do that for this. Really an acceptable answer, and then everything else would not be accepted. Regional names for this dish include taverns, wimpies, spoon burgers, steamers, and barbecue. This is question four. Randall, do you know this? Know this?

[Randall]

I have a pretty good idea. Okay, you didn't ask me how I know. Willow is the objective.

[Spencer Newharth]

Tell me how you know Willow, Randall. I'd love to know.

[Randall]

Well, because where we used to take our boats when I was working in Alaska, it was like the start of the Iditarod Trail and it froze over. So Willow's very near Deshka Landing, where we put our boats in.

[Spencer Newharth]

How big of a town is Willow?

[Randall]

Oh, I don't know. It's quite small. But when I went up there one year in March, the Iditarod had just gone through. So to get to the lodge, I just followed the Iditarod Trail on the snowmobile.

[Phil]

There you go.

[Randall]

You used to find dog booties. They have, like, all these little felt dog booties. You find them in the river.

[Spencer Newharth]

Are you familiar with a bar in Willow? Did you introduce yourself there?

[Randall]

God, there's a place that I thinking of, but I don't know if it's actually in Willow.

[Spencer Newharth]

Again, question for the topic is cooking. Regional names for this dish include taverns, wimpies, Spoon Burgers, Steamers and Barbecue. Is everybody ready, Jordan?

[Brody]

Yep.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Giannis saying clams. Jordan says Sliders, Randall Sliders, Maggie, Hot Dog, Seth, Sloppy Joe, Corey, Hot Dog, Brody, Sliders. The correct answer is Sloppy Joe. Got that burger.

[Randall]

That's great.

[Spencer Newharth]

Other names include Manwich, Yum Yums, Maid Rights and Slush Burgers. Heinz Ketchup claims that the meal was created by a Sioux City, Iowa man that was named Joe, who liked adding tomato sauce to his loose meat sandwiches. Danielle Pruitt has a delicious venison sloppy Joe recipe on the Meat Eater Dot com. It's the only sloppy Joe recipe I will use.

[Giannis]

It is good. I use it all the time.

[Spencer Newharth]

Very good. It's not too wet, like, I feel like some sloppy Joes are really Sloppy barbecue.

[Jordan]

Where do they call them? Barbecue.

[Spencer Newharth]

I had heard that that was one that was familiar to me. I think in, like, northeastern South Dakota, they call them barbecues. Now, where I grew up in southeastern South Dakota, Tavern. What about you guys? Where you come from?

[Giannis]

If you would have said Manwich, I would have got it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, then it would have been too easy.

[Brody]

Steamers had anything.

[Giannis]

I've heard barbecue before.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, in Pennsylvania.

[Jordan]

I was thinking White Castle.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Brody]

I've only ever heard Sloppy Joe's. Yeah, I can remember.

[Spencer Newharth]

How about up in.

[Giannis]

I've never heard any of this other. Other stuff you came up with.

[Spencer Newharth]

Probably Sloppy Joe, the old Sloppy Jose.

[Brody]

There you go.

[Announcer]

Jalapenos in there.

[Brody]

Deer meat salsa and taco sauce. That would have clued me.

[Randall]

It included that regional variation.

[Giannis]

Question 5.

[Spencer Newharth]

No, the topic is hunting. This seven letter word is defined as, quote, the spiral grooves inside the barrel of a gun that caused the bullet to spin. The seven letter word. History of bone. There.

[Brody]

Jordan.

[Spencer Newharth]

Inside the barrel of a gun. Jordan's bones that caused the bullet to spin.

[Giannis]

For the life of me, my brain's not working. Oh, you'll get it.

[Brody]

Just we'll talk for a while. I want you to get it.

[Jordan]

Oh, I know what you're thinking of. I bet. I bet I know what you're thinking of.

[Giannis]

I know I'm thinking of a very similar word, just not the right one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Jordan and Randall and Seth and Brody, they all seem to know it.

[Announcer]

I've read this word so many times.

[Jordan]

You have? You have?

[Spencer Newharth]

Corey, Maggie and Giannis are struggling though. This seven letter word is defined as the spirit inside the barrel of a gun that caused the bullet to spit. You laughing at my answer?

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm not done yet.

[Giannis]

You better not be.

[Spencer Newharth]

No, that's not.

[Brody]

Seth laughed first.

[Spencer Newharth]

He made me laugh. I know that's not the answer, but it is.

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[Spencer Newharth]

He's just testing you guys. Twisted steel and sex. Randall's having second thoughts. He declared.

[Brody]

Come up with something honest. We gave you some time.

[Giannis]

Oh, yeah.

[Brody]

All right.

[Giannis]

I got. I got the writing.

[Brody]

Get it? No.

[Spencer Newharth]

Gave up Maggie. I'm out anyway.

[Announcer]

It's not right, but I got.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. Giannis and Jordan and Randall say rifling. Maggie says fluting. Seth rifling.

[Jordan]

Without an answer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody rifling. The correct answer is rifling.

[Announcer]

My brain was farting big time on that one. It just wasn't happening.

[Spencer Newharth]

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[Phil]

At halftime, we've got Maggie and Corey with two points.

[Randall]

Jeez.

[Phil]

Seth, Jordan, Randall and Brody are all tied up with three. And then in first place, tied up with four points are Giannis Patelis and Seth Morris.

[Giannis]

Let's go, Seth.

[Spencer Newharth]

Seth has a victory this summer, right?

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Phil]

And.

[Giannis]

And I lost to Brody one time and overtime. Do you have a legit victory or. It was a Jabroni episode.

[Spencer Newharth]

I think he might have whooped your butt. That game.

[Giannis]

Really? I'm just asking. It matters.

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[Spencer Newharth]

Question 6 the topic is wildlife. This is our Listener question of the week, which was won by Mario Villar for sending this great question. Mario is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia the Meater.com According to 2022 data, this insect is the most popular animal tattoo in America. According to 2022 data, this insect is the most popular animal tattoo in America. Brody, very quick to answer. It's a mosquito, Cicada, tick, cockroach. According to 2022 data, this insect is the most popular animal tattoo in America. I have the top 15 list in front of me, so be thinking about what other animals may be popular.

[Brody]

Do you have one of these insects on your body?

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm not going to give you any hints.

[Giannis]

You don't have it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Studying my arm, hoping for a clue.

[Giannis]

Insect tattoo.

[Spencer Newharth]

According to I feel like he wore.

[Brody]

A short sleeve shirt for a reason, man.

[Spencer Newharth]

This insect is the most popular animal tattoo in America.

[Jordan]

Antler bug.

[Brody]

You know what we saw all over in Pennsylvania? Lantern flies.

[Giannis]

Oh, they're everywhere.

[Brody]

Stepping on them, smacking them, killing them.

[Giannis]

Are those natives?

[Brody]

No, it's the one you're supposed to see if you kill. If you see.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, and see if you kill both. Both of them.

[Giannis]

You guys had your hands full.

[Brody]

Sounds like all over the place, man.

[Spencer Newharth]

They skipped the game just to go squish them. According to 2022 data, this insect is the most popular animal tattoo in America. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Giannis saying black widow, Jordan Butterfly, Randall Butterfly, Maggie Moth, Seth and Corey and Brody say butterfly. The correct answer is butterfly.

[Brody]

Honest, I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't point out that black widow is an arachnid.

[Giannis]

I know, I know, but I thought that maybe it would slip in somehow in this.

[Brody]

Spencer wouldn't let that happen.

[Spencer Newharth]

This data was gathered by 247 Wall Street. According to them, butterflies are the most popular animal tattoo in America. That's followed by let's take some guesses. What else do you think is dragonfly? Well, not exclusive to insects. We're just saying a Rose. No animals. Not exclusive to insects. Any animal cross. Let's try a crucifix.

[Brody]

A wolf.

[Phil]

A wolf.

[Spencer Newharth]

A wolf. There you go. That is number four.

[Giannis]

How about tiger?

[Spencer Newharth]

Tiger. That's on the list. That's right. Tiger, I believe, is number 10.

[Brody]

White tailed deer with an American eagle.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is on the list. No white tailed deer. No ducks or geese. Lions. Lions just ahead of wolves at number three. So we're still missing number two.

[Giannis]

Leopard.

[Spencer Newharth]

No leopard. No. Labrador dog is on there. Dog comes in at 13. Anything else?

[Giannis]

It's gonna be like an ass.

[Spencer Newharth]

Cat is on the list. Bear is on the list.

[Brody]

Shark.

[Spencer Newharth]

Shark is on the list at 15. The other ones on the list, we have snakes, lions, wolves, elephants, hummingbirds, owls, tigers, cats, bees, eagles, spiders, dogs, bears, and sharks. What was two snakes?

[Giannis]

Snakes was two snakes.

[Spencer Newharth]

I do not have a butterfly tattoo. My wife does. And when I asked her this question, she said butterfly immediately because she's thinking about getting a second.

[Randall]

I think my wife has pretty.

[Giannis]

Spencer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, there you go.

[Randall]

There's pretty strong overlap between that list and the list of like the most generic 15 animals you'd find in a kid's coloring book.

[Spencer Newharth]

I think you're right about that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, there's something there.

[Spencer Newharth]

As far as animals I have, I've got a dog here, some mallards, a dinosaur, a cryptid, a white tailed deer, a paddlef Fish. I've got a hams bear, a sucker, a squirrel, and a coyote track. There you go.

[Giannis]

Wonder if you could get the data on the placement on the body lower.

[Brody]

Back, and I think there'd be very.

[Giannis]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Where?

[Giannis]

Can you tell us where Shelby's butterfly is?

[Spencer Newharth]

Her butterfly is on.

[Giannis]

Only tell us if it's not on her lower back. Okay, good.

[Brody]

I also think there'd be a very clear. Like, men, Women.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yes. Yeah, I imagine with all of these it would be that way. Snakes, I could see being fairly split. Lions, that seems more masculine. Wolves, more masculine. Elephants, probably split, sure. Here's question seven. The topic is cooking.

[Randall]

Yeah, elephants for sure split.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm open to an argument. What do you think? Is that more masculine or feminine tattoo?

[Giannis]

I don't know.

[Randall]

I don't know. It's just sort of an animal that I haven't really thought about gendering.

[Giannis]

This whole back's an elephant.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question seven.

[Announcer]

You do cooking.

[Spencer Newharth]

George Clooney declare declines a skewered rodent and says, quote, a third of a gopher would only rouse my appetite without bedding her back down. In this 2000 film. Oh, such a good movie. There's A little hint. Brody loves this movie. George Clooney declines a skewered rodent and says, a third of a gopher would only rouse my appetite without bedding her back down in this 2000 film.

[Brody]

Good stuff.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody likes this movie. Randall already has his answer.

[Giannis]

Not my strong suit here. Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Cooking movies. Which one? George Clooney movies.

[Randall]

The year's throwing me off.

[Spencer Newharth]

George Clooney declines a skewered rodent and says, a third of a gopher would only rouse my appetite without bedding her back down in this 2000 film.

[Randall]

Phil, what year was Batman Forever? It's 97, I think.

[Giannis]

I don't know if I can name.

[Brody]

A George Clinton, but I'm not gonna question it.

[Jordan]

I can name one.

[Announcer]

This is like, the one that I can name.

[Spencer Newharth]

You have this one right, man.

[Phil]

Yikes.

[Corey]

The Peacemaker.

[Spencer Newharth]

Who are you?

[Announcer]

I don't know. This is like.

[Spencer Newharth]

Phil will give us a review after this since he seemed to have a strong take over there.

[Phil]

Oh, no, no. Just my reaction was to people saying they couldn't name a George Clooney movie.

[Announcer]

No, I can name this one. This is one I really like.

[Spencer Newharth]

I know. Er.

[Announcer]

So I put this one down.

[Randall]

I already named one. Batman Forever.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'll give you a hint.

[Brody]

It's not Ocean's Eleven.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Giannis]

I mean, Jordan is actually erasing.

[Phil]

I think that was. Ocean's 11 is 2001.

[Jordan]

That's pretty close.

[Spencer Newharth]

It was Ocean's 12, actually.

[Jordan]

Totally off.

[Giannis]

Georgia declined.

[Spencer Newharth]

Skewered road.

[Giannis]

Oh, no. It is the fact that people have space in their brain to know that a movie. George Clooney came out in 2001.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's amazing when he says, a third of a gopher would only rouse my appetite without bedding her back down. Is everybody ready?

[Giannis]

I'm not going to try.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers, Giannis. Without an answer, Jordan says, ocean's Eleven. Randall. Oh, brother, where art thou? Maggie? Oh, brother, where art thou? Seth? Without an answer, Corey and Brody say, oh, brother, where art thou? They got it. The correct answer is, oh, brother, where art thou? The Coen Brothers film follows three escaped convicts who search for treasure in rural Mississippi in 1937. In that scene, Delmar is cooking a gopher over a campfire and says they got it after coming across a whole village of them. Later in the film, Clooney tells a hitchhiker to keep his fingers away from Pete's mouth because all he's had to eat in the last 13 years is prison food. Gopher in a little greasy horse. Phil. Oh, Brother, where art thou not?

[Phil]

Not my favorite Cohen brothers. It's a little kind of like outside their normal thing, but it's a lot of fun because it's kind of outside their normal thing. Oh, yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

And Lucy, it's based on the Odyssey.

[Brody]

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Randall]

Just like Eastbound and Down. That is conceptually. Yeah. Eastbound and down is the play on the odds.

[Spencer Newharth]

I mean, you could say anything. This show is loosely based on the New Testament.

[Randall]

No, it's a man finding his way back and he keeps getting deterred along the way. Question was going to be another sort of loop in that journey.

[Spencer Newharth]

The topic is fishing. This next great question is via Brandon Carlton. The main Department of Marine Resources says this type of hook quote will set itself usually in the corner of the mouth and reduces gut hooked fish.

[Randall]

You guys act like you've never read an interview with Jody Hill, the creator of Eastbound and Down.

[Giannis]

I don't know who that is.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh. The main department of Marine Resources says this type of hook will set itself usually in the corner of the mouth and reduces gut hooked fish. Seth is watching Corey write his answer.

[Giannis]

Come on, Corey.

[Spencer Newharth]

Try not to have a tell as to whether or not it's right.

[Giannis]

You're an angel a lot.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Giannis]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Spencer Newharth]

I can't tell if that was an actual hint or not. And I kind of like that set.

[Brody]

No, it wasn't.

[Spencer Newharth]

The main department of.

[Brody]

At least it shouldn't be taken that way.

[Spencer Newharth]

Says this type of hook quote will set itself usually in the corner of the mouth and reduce his gut hooked fish.

[Giannis]

Keep trying, Corey. Stop while you're at it. I thought you had a little more depth.

[Spencer Newharth]

Just. Hey, man, fishing guys don't have time to tie their own. Yeah, for rainbow trout. Don't eat it. Just, just.

[Giannis]

That's not a good excuse.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is everybody ready?

[Giannis]

It's getting hot.

[Spencer Newharth]

Jordan, how do you like your ranch?

[Randall]

Very hot in here.

[Spencer Newharth]

I don't know.

[Jordan]

I think it's one of the only hooks I can't. Can think of.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Giannis and Jordan and Randall and Maggie and Seth and Corey and Brody saying circle hook. They got it. The correct answer is circle hook. What else did he have over there, Seth?

[Brody]

Mustang.

[Spencer Newharth]

Octopus. Mustang, Aberdeen. A circle hook has a point that's aimed at the shaft of the hook as opposed to a J hook, which has a point that's aimed parallel to the shaft. This design usually prevents a fish from swallowing the hook. Studies in Massachusetts and Maryland show that circle hooks significantly reduce catch and release Mortality for striped bass.

[Announcer]

I had J Hook first. I'm glad I changed it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Good thing you did. All right, Phil, let's get a scoreboard update with two questions left.

[Phil]

Let's see.

[Giannis]

I think everyone is still in the game.

[Phil]

It's a close game. Maggie has four points. Giannis, Jordan and Corey are tied up with five. And Randall, Brody and Seth are tied up with six.

[Giannis]

Wow.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question nine. The topic is gear. This next great question is via Ben Ewer. White Flyer, which is the largest manufacturer of these labels? Each box quote fragile as eggs. Randall and Brody already have their answer. White Flyer, which is the largest manufacturer of these labels? Each box fragile as eggs.

[Giannis]

What's the category?

[Spencer Newharth]

This is gear. Not the hint you were hoping for.

[Phil]

I used to do some work for the.

[Giannis]

The family that owns White Flyer.

[Brody]

Oh, really?

[Randall]

Kind of work?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Giannis]

Landscape enforcement.

[Spencer Newharth]

He was a product. White Flyer, which is the largest manufacturer of these labels. Each box fragile as eggs.

[Announcer]

Yanni, Jordan.

[Jordan]

No, I'm not good. I'm not good with them.

[Randall]

Don't goad them.

[Jordan]

Don't go with the brand name questions. I just heard a white flyer.

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[Spencer Newharth]

Seth used to do some work for them, if you didn't know.

[Announcer]

Landscape.

[Spencer Newharth]

Does that help you? No. White Flyer, largest manufacturer of these labels. Each box fragile as.

[Randall]

You gotta let the fives just settle into the chaff.

[Announcer]

I don't know what any of the scores because I'm out.

[Spencer Newharth]

Jordan has been inspired.

[Jordan]

Brody's dad's in the wrong category of things.

[Spencer Newharth]

Again, the topic is gear.

[Giannis]

Yanni, I'm writing something.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. And when he's done, we will flip.

[Giannis]

Over writing a lot.

[Phil]

It's a great answer, Corey.

[Giannis]

Long answer.

[Spencer Newharth]

His marker is not touching the whiteboard. White Flyer, which is the largest manufacturer of these labels. Each box fragile as eggs. Corey got a hearty laugh from Brody, and now he's done some erasing.

[Brody]

Oh, it's a good one. I was missing having Max next to me for entertainment, but Cory's gotta sit down there.

[Giannis]

That's my unlucky chair.

[Spencer Newharth]

Giannis.

[Giannis]

Yeah, whatever.

[Spencer Newharth]

You give up?

[Giannis]

Yep.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. Whatever Yanni says. Plastic bobbers. Jordan and Randall and Maggie and Seth say clay pigeons. Corey, without an answer. Brody. Clay pigeons. The correct answer is clay pigeons.

[Brody]

I'm sorry for laughing at you, Corey, but light bulbs was.

[Spencer Newharth]

Second best option.

[Announcer]

That's pretty good.

[Spencer Newharth]

Clay pigeon shooting replaced glass ball shooting, and glass ball shooting replaced live pigeon shooting. Part of this skeet shooting revolution was thanks to Britain outlawing the ownership of live pigeons. They feared that spies would use the birds to carry messages to rival armies. As one British commander said in 1914, quote, an alien enemy with a racing pigeon is far more dangerous than one with a live bomb. All right, Phil, let's get one more scoreboard Update before question 10.

[Giannis]

Interesting.

[Phil]

Randall, Brody and Seth going into the last question with seven points, but right behind them is Jordan Sillers is six.

[Spencer Newharth]

Here's a correct answer review so far. One, was canvas back. Two, Columbia. Three. Anchorage. Four. Sloppy Joe. Five. Rifling. Six, butterfly. Seven. Oh, brother, where art thou? Eight, circle hook. Nine. Clay pigeons. Here is question 10. The topic is conservation. How many Gulf coast states have a national park? How many Gulf coast states have a national park? We have four players left in the game. Brody, Seth and Randall have seven points. Jordan is right behind them with six.

[Phil]

That's a good question, Spencer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Thank you, Phil.

[Announcer]

Number questions are hard.

[Spencer Newharth]

How many Gulf coast states have a national park? This is a bone for the guy who's from a Gulf coast state. I don't know. He's a Canadian.

[Jordan]

Probably not. Yeah, probably not. Just trying to remember what they all are.

[Spencer Newharth]

How many Gulf coast states have a national park? Randall, do you have this one right? I think so. Okay.

[Randall]

It's a good question.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's fun.

[Randall]

Thank you.

[Giannis]

I just guess it's. It's pure guess, which is a bummer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody's still thinking it's not 20.

[Brody]

Brody, are we waiting on me?

[Spencer Newharth]

We're not waiting on you.

[Giannis]

Just wondering.

[Brody]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

How you doing?

[Randall]

Just checking in.

[Jordan]

I don't know.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Giannis saying 2, Jordan says 5, Randall 2, Maggie 3, Seth 3, Corey 2, Brody 2. The correct answer is 2.

[Giannis]

Damn it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody and Randall got that one right. Meaning they are going to overtime.

[Giannis]

You don't even mention the other people that got it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, it's got it right. Corey got it right. Well done, you two. Not going to be good enough to participate in overtime.

[Randall]

Well, everybody participates, right?

[Spencer Newharth]

Just can't win those two states.

[Brody]

The highest scoring, total scoring game ever, though.

[Spencer Newharth]

Everybody did. Well, those two states are Texas and Florida. Texas is home to Big Bend and Guadalupe Mountains. And Florida is home to Everglades, Biscayne and Dry Tortugas. Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama do not have a national park.

[Giannis]

So have you been to a national park in Louisiana?

[Brody]

No.

[Jordan]

It was a poor guess.

[Giannis]

He's from Canada.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yachty, quit rubbing it in. All right, Phil, play the drop.

[Announcer]

Tiebreaker.

[Giannis]

Dude, when I hear that, I feel like if you lose, like they're gonna chop Your arm off or something or pull your eyeball.

[Spencer Newharth]

We're saving that for 20. 20, 26. All right. For the overtime question, it will be a numerical question. Whoever is closest between Randall and Brody will be declared the winner. But everyone in the room will play along because if somebody gets it right on the nose, then we will add an extra $100 to today's donation. The tie breaking topic is conservation. What number president was Teddy Roosevelt? Oh, no.

[Brody]

This is just like. You wrote the question for Randall.

[Spencer Newharth]

Promise. I did not.

[Randall]

I don't.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's true.

[Giannis]

Randall's been chirping in his ear. I haven't won in a long time.

[Brody]

I mean, come on. You know Randall's going to be in a tiebreaker.

[Spencer Newharth]

He almost wasn't. What number president was Teddy Roosevelt?

[Giannis]

47.

[Spencer Newharth]

Corey's declared a pretty good guess.

[Phil]

Trump, Biden. Trump. That's all I got.

[Brody]

Couple bushes.

[Spencer Newharth]

What number president?

[Giannis]

Couple two tree bushes.

[Brody]

Obama.

[Spencer Newharth]

It was Teddy. Yanni, do you like your answer? No. Do you think you're within 10?

[Giannis]

Bump it up maybe? No, I don't know.

[Spencer Newharth]

I was gonna bump it down.

[Giannis]

No, not my.

[Announcer]

Are you listing all the president's Randall?

[Randall]

Just backwards.

[Spencer Newharth]

I don't need. Corey and Seth are consulting each other about if their numbers should be higher or lower.

[Jordan]

What do you.

[Spencer Newharth]

What are you boys thinking over there?

[Phil]

How are you?

[Announcer]

Oh, you guys are right around where I'm at.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Giannis]

All right. I'm checked out, Spencer. I'm checked out, buddy.

[Phil]

The only test they ever cheated on.

[Announcer]

I think it's right though.

[Phil]

I don't think the only test they ever cheated on in high school was. We had to list all the presidents in order, how many terms they served and what their presidential party was. And I. I was. I'm not putting in the work to do.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, so would you get this one right or no?

[Giannis]

No.

[Spencer Newharth]

And how did you cheat?

[Phil]

Yeah, I. I texted myself the answer, you know, and I was. I was sneaking my cell phone and taking little peaksies.

[Spencer Newharth]

What number president was Teddy Roosevelt? Randall still making his list?

[Phil]

Apologies to Mr. Asher.

[Giannis]

You know, Bozeman High, we just heard, is going cell Phone free in 26.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, meaning what? They like lock them in a bag?

[Giannis]

I don't know if we have the. The exact details, but.

[Brody]

Yeah, I'm all for it.

[Giannis]

That's me too.

[Spencer Newharth]

How do you. How do you enforce it? What do you.

[Giannis]

I mean, I think if a phone is. I would hope that if a phone is seen that it's confiscated.

[Spencer Newharth]

Wonder if the other high school is doing it too. Brody, how do you like your answer?

[Brody]

I mean, I feel like I'm in the ballpark. Simple math to do, like, the ballpark stuff.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall, still making your list? Yeah, but what president are you on? Can you tell us, though?

[Randall]

The thing is. The thing is, I. The last time I did this, you forgot someone. I. I got someone mixed up, and so right off the bat, I'm falling apart.

[Spencer Newharth]

Maybe overthinking.

[Randall]

I feel pretty good, though. I'm fine. I'm with.

[Spencer Newharth]

Everybody ready?

[Randall]

One or two?

[Spencer Newharth]

Whoa. Everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Giannis saying 37, Jordan, 36, Maggie, 23, Seth, 24, Corey, 27. Our two players left. We have Brody, Sang, 23, Randall saying 29. The correct answer is 26, meaning we're going to a second overtime because Randall and Brody were both three off.

[Brody]

Randall, I should win.

[Spencer Newharth]

And the closest, Corey, who had 27. Roosevelt served as the 26th president from 1901 to 1909. He took office after the assassination of. Who do you know?

[Phil]

Grover.

[Randall]

McKinley.

[Spencer Newharth]

McKinley, that's right. Who Roosevelt was the VP for. Teddy was 42 years old when sworn in, making him the youngest president ever and almost half the age of our last two presidents.

[Giannis]

Oh, I wish we could bring him.

[Brody]

Back to life multiple terms. Are they also, like, 20?

[Randall]

No, no, not 20.

[Giannis]

Oh, gosh.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's how Trump got 45 and 47. All right, Phil, do you have the second question?

[Phil]

I am loading it right now.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, this is only the second time ever that we have gone to a double overtime.

[Brody]

Got another history question teed up for Randall.

[Spencer Newharth]

The second overtime topic is cooking. According to Indeed, what is the average hourly pay for a butcher in 2025? According to Indeed, what is the average hourly pay for a butcher in 2025? We'll have you go to dollar and cents here just so we don't have to go to a third overtime today.

[Randall]

Well, this is tough. I've never thought about this. Just going to guess a wage.

[Spencer Newharth]

According to Start, what is the average hourly pay again? Hourly pay is what we're looking for.

[Randall]

So not Sal.

[Spencer Newharth]

Butcher salary for a Butcher in 2025. Has anyone worked as a butcher in here?

[Giannis]

Nope.

[Jordan]

Personal.

[Spencer Newharth]

Just amateurs. Bunch of amateur butchers.

[Randall]

This is tough.

[Giannis]

Pretty good.

[Spencer Newharth]

Still down to just Randall.

[Giannis]

Can't wait Boseman for that.

[Spencer Newharth]

According to Indeed, what is the average hourly pay for a butcher in 2025? Randall, we are waiting on you. Are you ready? Ray?

[Giannis]

You wore a very warm sweater.

[Randall]

I know, I know. It was fine for a little bit.

[Spencer Newharth]

He didn't anticipate overtime as soon as we got into overtime or double over.

[Randall]

Yeah, I was ready to get out and vent at question 10.

[Giannis]

It's hot over there.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's very shirt and reveal your answer.

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[Randall]

It runs hot.

[Spencer Newharth]

We have Giannis saying $22.50, Jordan $23.70, Maggie $22 an hour. Seth 1850, Corey $20 an hour. And our two players left. We have Randall saying $15.75 and Brody saying $25. The correct answer is $19.08, making Randall our winner. He edged out Brody by about one.

[Randall]

And I'm glad we're not going to a third overtime because I think by then I will truly have expired.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, his hyperthermic would be off if he's stroking. This is looking at 895 salaries from job postings since 2023. Indeed says that on the low end, butchers make 14 an hour and on the high end $26 an hour. The highest paying cities for for butchers are San Francisco, New York City, Nashville and Dallas. What Was the average $19.08? Randall, what are we doing with the $500 today? It was well earned. Took 12 questions to get there.

[Randall]

Yeah, let's, let's send this one to Captains for Clean Water.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, what do we like about them?

[Randall]

It's a great group that works on all kinds of marine fisheries stuff. I think they do a lot with the Everglades and it's, it involves charter boat captains, guides. So they're folks who are on the water every day and know the issues facing our fisheries better than most.

[Spencer Newharth]

$500 going to captains Clean Waters. Jordan, Maggie, thanks for joining us. Thanks for coming to town.

[Randall]

Thanks, Spencer.

[Giannis]

Thanks, Spencer.

[Spencer Newharth]

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[Corey]

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