Ep. 778: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXVI

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast

Ep. 778: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXVI

Release Date: October 15, 2025
Host: Spencer Newharth
Guests: Randall Brody, John, Nate, Max, Dr. Solomon David, Brody Henderson

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Overview

In this lively installment of the MeatEater Trivia series, host Spencer Newharth challenges the panel—made up of seasoned staff, recurring personalities, and special guest Dr. Solomon David—to a ten-round, nature-centric quiz spanning hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. A key highlight: the winner determines where a $500 (or potentially doubled) donation goes to a conservation organization of their choice. The episode is infused with humor, camaraderie, and surprising facts, making it both entertaining and educational for listeners interested in the outdoors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meet the Panel and Featured Guest

• Dr. Solomon David’s Research on Native Fish

  • Introduced as a University of Minnesota fisheries ecologist focusing on “underappreciated fish like gars, buffalo, suckers”—he also identifies the MeatEater logo fish as a shorthead redhorse (01:23).
  • Fun Fact: The scientific name is Moxostoma macrolepidotum.

• Team Banter: Midwestern Replacements and Roles

  • Max takes over as the office's “lovable northern” role after Chester departs (03:06).

2. Pre-Game Banter & FAQs

• Pika or "Pika" Pronunciation Debate
  • Merriam-Webster recognizes both pronunciations.
  • “You could either sound like Brody, or like a child raised on Pokemon. It’s pika.” —John (04:25)

3. The Quiz: Questions, Answers & Trivia

Hunting, Fishing, Conservation, Cooking Categories

Round 1: Hunting—Cheapest Farmland in the Midwest

• Missouri has the lowest farmland price ($5,000/acre).
• “The correct answer is Missouri.” —Spencer (06:33)
  • Data note: Most expensive: Iowa, California; Least expensive: Wyoming, New Mexico.

Round 2: Cooking—The Butcher’s Cleaver

• Synonym for hatchet/chopper: “Cleaver”
  • “Brody says ‘cleaver.’ The correct answer is cleaver. A recent test from Serious Eats found that cleaver sharpness is far more important than cleaver weight…” —Spencer (08:34)

Round 3: Fishing—Types of ‘Buffalo’

• Smallmouth, bigmouth, and black: All are types of buffalo suckers.
  • Dr. David shares more about buffalo fish longevity: “They can reach weights of 70 lbs and live longer than 100 years.” (11:10-11:39)
  • Trivia: Dr. David ate “buffalo ribs” at a Native Fish for Tomorrow event (12:04).

Round 4: Wildlife—Cartoon Trivia

• “This cartoon animal, with a sidekick named Boo Boo, lived in Jellystone Park”: Yogi Bear
  • “The correct answer is Yogi… He got his own cartoon, The Yogi Bear Show, in 1961.” —Spencer (14:59)

Round 5: Conservation—Notable Obituaries

• “This conservationist… died on October 1, 2025”: Jane Goodall
  • “RIP. Dr. Jane Goodall spent over six decades studying chimpanzees in Tanzania…” —Spencer (18:08)

Mid-Game Scoreboard (18:39):

• Brody Henderson leads with 5/5.
• Randall, Nate, Solomon: 4 each.
• John, Max: 1 each.

Round 6: Gear—Brand (Color + Shape)

• “Most innovative mountain equipment in the world”: Black Diamond
  • “Yvon Chouinard created Chouinard Equipment… then was purchased and turned into Black Diamond.” —Spencer (22:27-22:58)

Round 7: Public Lands—Canada’s Most Visited National Park

• Banff
  • “Banff had 4.3 million visitors last year.” —Spencer (24:57)

Round 8: Cooking—Chemist & Condiments

• Ernest Wright’s smoky fluid: Liquid Smoke
  • “Liquid smoke is created by collecting droplets of condensation after burning sawdust…” (28:09)

Round 9: Hunting—Best Spot to Shoot a Deer

• “Place that generates steam and hot water, also Outdoor Life’s ‘best spot’ to shoot a deer”: Boiler Room
  • “The boiler room refers to a deer's vitals, where the heart meets the lungs.” —Spencer (31:01)

Round 10: Conservation—Unique Pollinators

• “The only mammal on the USDA’s Very Important Pollinator List, crucial for agave and saguaro cacti”: Bat
  • “Bats pollinate 528 plant species worldwide, including dragon fruit, bananas, mangoes, coconuts, and avocados.” —Spencer (33:47-34:30)
  • “You should actually cheers a bat every time you have a margarita.” —Spencer (34:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Our logo… is a squirrel riding a fish… That is absolutely a short head red horse—that’s our logo that’s on everything we do.”
  —Spencer (01:57)

• “Bigmouth buffalo is one of our largest planktivorous fish… They get huge, compete with invasive carp, and can live over 100 years.”
  —Dr. Solomon David (11:39)

• “I would say they come off just like actual, you know, flesh off the... meat off the ribs and, you know, not too... not too fishy.”
  —Dr. Solomon David on eating buffalo (12:19)

• “You could either sound like Brody, or like a child raised on Pokémon. It's pika.”
  —John (04:25)

• “As a reminder, if [Brody] gets this right, not only does he win the game, but we will double the donation to $1,000 today.”
  —Spencer (32:41)

• “You should actually cheers a bat every time you have a margarita, because bat... because agave makes tequila and bats make agave.”
  —Spencer (34:28)

• “Native Fish for Tomorrow… do a bunch of outreach activities just promoting native fish... taking kids out fishing, putting together activities, submitting comments to DNR, promoting to the public.”
  —Dr. Solomon David (34:52)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Guest Introduction + Buffalo Fish Primer: 01:23–02:33
• Pika Pronunciation Debate: 03:52–04:36
• Trivia Game Begins: 05:04
• Q1—Cheapest Farmland: 05:29–06:35
• Q2—Butcher’s Cleaver: 07:38–08:34
• Q3—Buffalo Sucker Fish: 09:29–12:36
• Q4—Yogi Bear: 12:58–15:56
• Q5—Jane Goodall: 16:11–18:08
• Mid-Game Scoreboard: 18:39
• Q6—Black Diamond (Gear): 19:57–22:58
• Q7—Banff National Park: 23:24–25:57
• Q8—Liquid Smoke: 25:56–28:44
• Q9—Deer “Boiler Room”: 29:07–31:01
• Q10—Bat: Pollinator Extraordinaire: 31:42–34:30
• Winning Decision & Donation: 34:42–35:22

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Outcome & Donation

Brody Henderson wins with a perfect score. The $1,000 prize is donated to Native Fish for Tomorrow, supporting educational outreach, youth fishing activities, and native fish conservation policy efforts. Dr. Solomon David, whose expertise fit the theme, expresses gratitude—his organization’s mission resonates with the show’s conservation ethos.

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Final Thoughts

This episode showcases the MeatEater crew’s depth and irreverence, blending odd-ball trivia with genuine wildlife science. Listeners gain surprising facts (from the cleaver’s role in butchery to bats’ tequila connection), while the episode underscores the idea that understanding and protecting the natural world benefits everyone: “Conservation always wins.”

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For more trivia and in-depth discussions on all things outdoors, tune in weekly to The MeatEater Podcast.

Transcript

[Spencer Newharth]

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[Randall Brody]

It'S.

[Meat Eater Podcast Announcer]

A meat eater podcast.

[Spencer Newharth]

Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth and today I'm joined by Randall Brody, John Nate Max and Dr. Solomon David. This episode of Trivia is brought to you by land.com this is a 10 round quiz show with questions from meat eaters. Four verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. And there is a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Dr. David is a guest on an upcoming episode of Meat Eater. Give folks a preview of what what we talked about with you for two hours.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Yeah, thanks for having me, Spencer and everybody. Yeah. So I'm Dr. Solomon David. I'm at University of Minnesota in the department of Fisheries, Wildlife and Conservation Biology. My area of expertise is fish ecology, particularly those underappreciated fish like gars, which we've got an alligator gar, skull right here, buffalo suckers, those types of native non game fish and how we can kind of use those to learn about conservation and management of our natural resources.

[Spencer Newharth]

Longtime appreciator of the native rough fish here at Trivia. Our logo, Dr. David, is a squirrel riding a fish. Do you know what kind of fish?

[Dr. Solomon David]

That looks like a red horse to me.

[Spencer Newharth]

That is absolutely a short head red horse. That's our logo that's on everything we do.

[Randall Brody]

So he wasn't making it all up.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Macrolepidotum, if we want to get.

[Randall Brody]

All right, that's more like it.

[Dr. Solomon David]

That's more like it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Say it again. What is it?

[Dr. Solomon David]

Moxistoma macrolepidotum.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Shorthead, red horse.

[Max]

Say that ten times fast.

[Spencer Newharth]

Trivia, strengths and weaknesses. When it comes to hunting, fishing, conservation, cooking, what do you think?

[Dr. Solomon David]

You saw all of my strengths in that scientific name and the description. So that's about it. I would say fishing if it's about actual fish and maybe conservation, but I'm going to make you all look good.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right, we'll find out. Here's our infrequently asked Question segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it to triviator.com with the subject line IFAQ. Multiple listeners want to know, where is Chester?

[Max]

Check.

[Spencer Newharth]

Chester moved away. He moved back to Wisconsin. We have. But it's. It keeps coming. He's. He's some. Yeah. This is actually an faq. Not an faq. Max has had to replace Chester as our lovable northern person here in the office.

[Max]

That's news to me.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, someone on radio asked a few weeks ago what you do here at Meat Eater Max.

[Max]

Yep.

[Spencer Newharth]

And you've. You've replaced Chester of that niche of just, like, really nice being a Midwesterner. Yeah. Yeah. Northern part.

[Max]

Northern. Okay.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah. Way up there.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

So you're kind of.

[Brody Henderson]

Kind of Steve's waterfowl guide these days, too.

[Max]

Yeah, it sure seems like it.

[Spencer Newharth]

You guys got into some birds? Yeah. Youth opener. So you weren't pulling the trigger?

[Max]

I was not.

[Spencer Newharth]

That was two weeks ago.

[Max]

Steve did. Yeah. Steve pulled the trigger on a crane, which is really cool. It was pretty funny because, like, every time we heard crane, Steve was like, jimmy, give me.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Give me your gun.

[Spencer Newharth]

Give me your gun.

[Max]

Because he was the only one with the crane permit.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah.

[Max]

So, yeah, that was pretty hilarious.

[Spencer Newharth]

Chester wasn't going to guide Steve to any birds if he still lived here. So you've got that.

[Max]

Maybe some fish.

[Spencer Newharth]

Maybe the fish.

[Randall Brody]

So Steve upgraded. That's what you're saying.

[Max]

It depends if you like Fisher.

[Randall Brody]

Chester, we miss you.

[Spencer Newharth]

Come back. We have some housekeeping. In a previous episode, I was clowned for my pronunciation of the small furry animal that spelled P I, K A. Well, according to the book Cascade Olympic Natural History, Danielle Matthews says that while most Americans say pika, the rest of the world says pika. And Merriam Webster has two acceptable pronunciations providing audio for both. Play it, Phil. Pika. Pika. So which. Which one? You could either sound like Brody.

[Max]

I would say pika.

[Spencer Newharth]

You say pica.

[John]

No, no. You could sound cool as a child raised on Pokemon. It's pika.

[Max]

Pika. Pika.

[Spencer Newharth]

So, Brody, you can say it. Pika.

[Brody Henderson]

I'll never say it that way.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right, the Shelby index for today is a five, so I'm putting us on perfect score. And with that, we're on to the game of trip. Play the drop, Phil. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that?

[Nate]

You stand to win everything.

[Spencer Newharth]

Game on, suckers. You know, Solomon, a lot of people think this is a carpenter, and I always correct them. I say, no, no, that is a shit.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I appreciate that. Doing the good work.

[Randall Brody]

I feel like the TV is. Is angled too far towards Spencer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, wow.

[Randall Brody]

I'd like more of the tv.

[Spencer Newharth]

Can you help him out?

[Max]

Do you know what you call a fish with no eyes?

[John]

I.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Go ahead.

[Max]

Nice. Thanks for letting me have that one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question one.

[Brody Henderson]

Thanks.

[Spencer Newharth]

Phil is hunting questions. This first question is going to be multiple choice and it's brought to you by land.com. of these states, which has the cheapest farmland per acre? Is it Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Missouri or Indiana? Of these states, which has the cheapest farmland per acre? And this data was published by the USDA in 2025, just last month. Is it Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Indiana? Which one has the cheapest farmland per acre? Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon saying Missouri. Nate, Missouri. Randall, Pennsylvania. John, Pennsylvania. Max, Pennsylvania. Brody, Missouri. The correct answer is Missouri.

[Max]

Corn down there.

[Spencer Newharth]

Got that one right.

[Nate]

All them cows, dude.

[Spencer Newharth]

Again, this data was published by the USDA in 2025. According to them, Missouri has the cheapest land in the Midwest at $5,000 per acre. Indiana is $8,800, Pennsylvania $8,500, and Wisconsin is $6,400. The most expensive farmland is in Iowa and California, which are over $10,000 per acre, while the least expensive farmland is in Wyoming and New Mexico at $1,000 per acre. H Question 2. The topic is cooking. This next great question is via Titus McKenty. Hatchet and Chopper are synonyms for this seven letter word that's defined as, quote, a butcher's implement for cutting animal carcasses into joints or pieces. Hatchet and chopper are synonyms for this seven letter word that's defined as a butcher's implement for cutting animal carcasses into joints or pieces.

[John]

John, I know it's not really your fault, but if you want to try to stop squeaking the chair so much.

[J]

Sorry.

[Brody Henderson]

Come on, John. Quiet down over there.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, Nate, we're all too rowdy over here.

[Randall Brody]

Did you get the first one right?

[Nate]

Oh, yeah.

[Randall Brody]

Geez.

[Spencer Newharth]

Solomon, Nate and Brody did get that one right.

[Nate]

I usually do well in the beginning, then fall apart around question five.

[Max]

I usually fall apart after the first one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Hatchet and chopper are synonyms for this seven letter word that's defined as a butcher's implement for cutting animal carcasses into joints or pieces. Brody and Nate and Randall all seem to like their answers. John, do you have this one right? No. Solomon, how about you?

[Dr. Solomon David]

I. I doubt it, but I got seven letters, I think. All right, Maxwell, that was My main goal, seven.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm like, max, do you give up?

[Max]

Sure.

[Randall Brody]

John, do you give up?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yes. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon saying bonesaw, Nate Cleaver, Randall cleaver, Max and John without answers. Brody says cleaver. The correct answer is cleaver. A recent test from Serious Eats found that cleaver sharpness is far more important than cleaver weight when it comes to chopping through bones. Their favorite cleaver was a 65 Victorinox that beat out cleavers that were more than three times its price. Question 3. The topic is fishing. Does anyone own a cleaver? I don't.

[Nate]

I got a. What?

[Spencer Newharth]

Hexclad.

[Nate]

Does that. Does that sound right?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, I know. I'm from Pots and pans.

[Nate]

Pretty good.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Nate]

Big fan.

[Spencer Newharth]

What are you going to swing that cleaver at this fall, Randall?

[Randall Brody]

Probably nothing. Probably nothing.

[Brody Henderson]

Frozen pizza?

[Max]

Fruit.

[Randall Brody]

Yeah, I've got that. You know, one of the.

[Max]

The.

[Randall Brody]

The butchering kits that I bought 15 years ago, it's got seven knives and I use two of them.

[Spencer Newharth]

How about you, Brody? Do you use a cleaver at home?

[Brody Henderson]

Now and then?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah. Yeah. Question three. The topic is fishing. Small mouth, big mouth, and black are all types of this sucker.

[Max]

I was so close to just putting bass down.

[Nate]

Yeah, yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Small mouth, big mouth, and black are all types of this sucker. This is a bone for our guest.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Do you need scientific names, too?

[Spencer Newharth]

For you? We could do that. The rest of the room we'll just accept the common name. Brody, you have this one, right?

[Brody Henderson]

I think so.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. How about you, Nate?

[Nate]

Nope.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall?

[Randall Brody]

I think so.

[Spencer Newharth]

Smallmouth, big mouth, and black are all types of this sucker. Brody, do you like Max's answer?

[Nate]

No.

[Spencer Newharth]

Max is now erasing.

[Dr. Solomon David]

No.

[Max]

I'll stick with it. Stick with your gut.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. John, do you have an answer?

[John]

I do not.

[Spencer Newharth]

Do you give up? Yeah. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon saying, buffalo. Nate.

[Dr. Solomon David]

All right, Nate.

[Spencer Newharth]

Buffalo.

[John]

Nate.

[Nate]

Nate.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Nate.

[Spencer Newharth]

Easy, Randall. Buffalo. John. Without an answer. Max says common. Brody says buffalo. The correct answer is the buffalo. Big mouth buffalo are the biggest and oldest sucker fish in North America. They can. They can reach weights of 70 pounds and live longer than 100 years. Their native range stretches from Manitoba to Alabama. Solomon. I actually came across two other species of buffalo that I didn't know existed until I was writing this question. Do you know what they are?

[Dr. Solomon David]

Besides the three that you mentioned?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yes.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Oh, what about buffalo carp? We've got all three of those in Minnesota that you mentioned. What are those other Ones.

[Spencer Newharth]

The other two I didn't know about. A fleshy lip buffalo and southern buffalo.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Interesting.

[Brody Henderson]

Is that just splitters, like doing their split.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, if our rough fish biologist doesn't know.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Yeah, you know, suckers there. There are like 80 species of suckers, so it's not terribly surprising.

[Max]

But that's.

[Dr. Solomon David]

That's impressive. I learned some in fleshy lip and southern.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, tell us some other cool stuff about buffalo, why we should. Like buffalo?

[Dr. Solomon David]

Yeah. Big mouth buffalo is one of our largest planktivorous fish, so they get huge, but they eat plankton, so they actually compete with invasive carp and they can live for over a hundred years. They actually improve their health as they get older. So there's some that they found down in Arizona. They were introduced that are over 100 years old. They've been there since 1917, 1920, and their health is actually better than the younger ones. So cool fish.

[Spencer Newharth]

You've eaten buffalo?

[Dr. Solomon David]

I have buffalo ribs, actually. Just last weekend. They were really good.

[Spencer Newharth]

There's a place in Nebraska that I know serves buffalo ribs. Where did you have yours at?

[Dr. Solomon David]

There was a Native Fish for Tomorrow fundraiser, and it was all about just educating about native fish.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, give us a review.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I would say they come off just like actual, you know, flesh off the. You know, meat off the ribs and, you know, not too. Not too fishy.

[Brody Henderson]

So there's a commercial fishery for them.

[Dr. Solomon David]

There is in Minnesota.

[Spencer Newharth]

In Minnesota, there used to be the Outdoor Channel show called Bottom Feeders. Did you ever that?

[Dr. Solomon David]

No, I did not.

[Spencer Newharth]

It followed some commercial fishermen in Minnesota who. A large part of what they would catch would be channel catfish and buffalo and carp. So, yeah, there's a small commercial fishery. I imagine a lot of that wound up in dog food. But I don't know what. What they were doing with all those buffalo.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I thought it was great. You know, my kids liked it.

[Max]

Did you have it smoked, grilled?

[Dr. Solomon David]

It was. It was fried, mainly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Max]

Classic.

[Spencer Newharth]

So you can eat a buffalo.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question for the topic is wildlife. This next great question is via John Cromie. This cartoon animal who had a sidekick named Boo Boo lived in Jellystone Park. This cartoon animal who had a sidekick named Boo Boo lived in Jellystone Park.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Can't believe I actually know another one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, Solomon is gonna have his third question correct. This isn't.

[Randall Brody]

This isn't one of those questions we'd call a differentiator?

[John]

Come on.

[Spencer Newharth]

You mean like you and Randall or, excuse me, you and Brody. You're both going to get it, right?

[Brody Henderson]

I don't know like, something popped into my head, but I just. Doubting it.

[Randall Brody]

I need a. I need a question that, at this point, that Nate won't get.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, Nate, do you have this one right? Dude, it may be maybe this cartoon animal who had a sidekick Boo Boo lived in.

[Brody Henderson]

I remember despising this cartoon.

[Randall Brody]

Okay, there's a hint, but you've come to appreciate it. As an adult.

[Spencer Newharth]

Or as a.

[Max]

As a father?

[Brody Henderson]

No, I. I like.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's probably not even on it.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Oh, yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, more hints. It's pretty old school, but, Max, do you like your answer based on what you've heard? So read the question. Max's answer was Boo Boo. Is that what he wrote down? I said Boo Boo the bear. Okay.

[John]

Goodness gracious.

[Spencer Newharth]

This cartoon animal, you need to, like.

[Brody Henderson]

Read that question a little more.

[Randall Brody]

It should be like. This should be like the SATs. Isn't it SATs if you leave it blank? It's just neutral.

[Dr. Solomon David]

We should do that neutral.

[Max]

I always said we can. We should get negative points out.

[Brody Henderson]

Well, there you go.

[Spencer Newharth]

Careful, Max.

[Randall Brody]

Be careful what you wish for.

[Spencer Newharth]

This cartoon animal who had a sidekick named Boo Boo lived in Jelly Stone Park. Okay, Max would rather just take a neutral.

[Randall Brody]

No, it does make sense that a cartoon animal named Boo Boo would have a sidekick named Boo Boo. I see where you're coming from.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon saying Yogi. Nate and Randall saying Yogi. John without an answer. Max without an answer. Brody says Yogi. The correct answer is Yogi. Yogi made his debut in 1958 as a supporting character on the Huckleberry Hound Show. He got his own cartoon, the Yogi bear Show, in 1961. The program was sponsored by Kellogg's and featured segments from Snagglepuss and Yaki Doodle. Jellystone park was based on Yellowstone national park and even had a geyser named Old Faithful. Yellowstone briefly embraced the bear in the 1960s and had signs of Yogi that said, hey, kids, don't feed the bears and be sure dad keeps the car windows rolled up. Phil has a picture of one of those signs from Yellowstone park of Yogi holding that sign. Hey, Boo Boo.

[Randall Brody]

I like the bottom of the sign. Says, Over 40 people have been hurt by bears this year.

[Spencer Newharth]

Phil, his other catchphrase was that he's smarter than the average bear. Can you do that?

[John]

No. But I know he always talked about the picnic basket.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's right.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Ranger Smith takes me back.

[Spencer Newharth]

Very good. Question 5. The topic is conservation. This conservationist who. Who was best known for her work with Primates died on October 1, 2025. This might be that question you were looking for Randall, with Nate.

[Randall Brody]

It is.

[Spencer Newharth]

Who has a blank whiteboard? This conservationist who was best known for her work with Primates died on October 1, 2025.

[Brody Henderson]

Nate strikes me as the kind of person who doesn't open. Open the news app on his iPhone very often.

[Nate]

I really only read the journal, and they have an example about Prime.

[Max]

I even got this one. How does that make you feel?

[Nate]

One time, I almost got in a fight with a gorilla. There's a fun fact.

[Spencer Newharth]

Wow.

[Nate]

In Indonesia.

[Max]

Interesting.

[Nate]

Right after I rode an elephant.

[Randall Brody]

An actual gorilla?

[Nate]

Yeah. Well, I don't know. I think it was a gorilla.

[Randall Brody]

It was probably an orangutan.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Orangutan?

[Nate]

No, no, dude. I. I have a GoPro video of it. I would see that somewhere deep in my Google Drive.

[Brody Henderson]

What does it. Almost got in a fight.

[Nate]

Oh, I have to show you the video.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Did you have, like, a standoff?

[Nate]

Like, dude, it was like Playing of the Apes up in here.

[Randall Brody]

You should just tell people, like, you.

[Brody Henderson]

Want to go, buddy?

[Nate]

Dude, he threw a rock at me.

[Max]

What'd you throw at him?

[Nate]

Nothing.

[Max]

Okay.

[Nate]

I beat my chest, though. So.

[Spencer Newharth]

This has all been a distraction from Randall to not get you to answer this, Nate.

[Nate]

I don't know, man.

[Spencer Newharth]

This conservationist who was best known for her work with primates.

[Brody Henderson]

Attaboy.

[Spencer Newharth]

Died on October 1, 2025. John, do you have this one?

[Max]

Thanks, Billy.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, Nate, I don't know. Waiting on you.

[Max]

I like how Randall has the Suck It, Randall board.

[Randall Brody]

Yeah, I think it's happened twice now.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers.

[Max]

I didn't spell it right, but we.

[Spencer Newharth]

Have Nate saying Laura Bush. And then we have Solomon Randall, John, Max, and Brody saying Jane Goodall. They got it. The correct answer is Jane Goodall.

[Randall Brody]

That's a great answer, though.

[Spencer Newharth]

RIP Dr. Jane Goodall spent over six decades studying chimpanzees in Tanzania. She worked to raise awareness about threats to wildlife and inspire a more harmonious relationship between people and the natural world. Goodall wrote 27 books and was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom earlier this year. She passed in her sleep at the age of 91. Phil, we're halfway through the game of trivia. Give us a scoreboard update with that question.

[John]

Everyone's on the board.

[Max]

Surprising.

[John]

John and Max now have one point. Solomon. Nate and Randall are tied up with four, and in first place is Brody Henderson with five points.

[Spencer Newharth]

Good game.

[J]

Our crew at Meat Eater has centuries worth of collective experience. Procuring and preparing meat. Hunting, butchering, preserving, cooking it for ourselves and our families. I've chased it from one end of the world to the other. Grilling caribou steaks in the Arctic, Butchering elk in the high country of the Rockies. Drying fish in the headwaters of the Amazon. The main thing I've learned is that there's nothing better than knowing where your meat comes from. So when we set out to make jerky and sticks with our own recipes perfected on wild game, I wanted to start with the American buffalo, an iconic North American native that's fed this continent for thousands of years. These are recipes I use in my own kitchen, not meant to mimic what's already out there. They're meant to showcase everything I've learned about good meat from the wilds or from the ranch. This ain't your typical phony gas station jerky. It's American buffalo done right. And it's just the beginning. Meat eater snacks from folks who know meat.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question 6. The topic is gear. This brand, whose name combines a color with a shape claims to make, quote, the most innovative mountain equipment in the world. Brody and Randall know it. Our other four players do not. This brand, whose name combines a color with a shape, claims to make the most innovative mountain equipment in the world. Nate now joining them.

[Max]

I'm going through my colors right now.

[Randall Brody]

Is there a video game company called Red Square?

[John]

I don't believe so. If there is, it's not that big.

[Brody Henderson]

Is there an innovative mountaineering company named Red?

[Randall Brody]

No, but I just was thinking, surely there's another company out there that combines the color with the shape.

[Spencer Newharth]

This brand, whose name combines a color with a shape, claims to make the most innovative mountain equipment in the world. Solomon, do you have this right?

[Dr. Solomon David]

I definitely do not.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I just chose a color and a shape.

[Spencer Newharth]

Could work.

[Randall Brody]

I hope it's not Red Square.

[John]

I know. Red Scare.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, no.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Never mind.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, too much talking and it popped into people's heads.

[Spencer Newharth]

Solomon is in the running. Maybe. I don't.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I don't think so.

[Spencer Newharth]

But a difference maker for him. You guys have been just rifling through my tiebreakers lately, and we're on pace to get today again. Another overtime round.

[Brody Henderson]

Pick a shape, Max.

[Spencer Newharth]

Does he have a color?

[Brody Henderson]

He's got a color.

[Spencer Newharth]

This brand, whose name combines a color with a shape, claims to make the most innovative mountain equipment in the world. Steve looked at these questions before the show. He did not think he would get this one right.

[Brody Henderson]

Is that right?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, I was surprised as well.

[Randall Brody]

How odd.

[Spencer Newharth]

Keep that hidden.

[Brody Henderson]

Man, he doesn't have an answer yet.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, Max. Thanks, John. We're waiting on you three. Okay, now we're waiting on Nate and John.

[Randall Brody]

John, what are the store boys gonna say?

[Spencer Newharth]

This is gonna be a rough one.

[Max]

All right, let's.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon Diamond. Nate says Black Orvis.

[Nate]

Ovis.

[Spencer Newharth]

Ovis Randall. Black Diamond. John without an answer. Max, Black circle. Brody, Black Diamond. The correct answer. Black diamond. Yvonne Chouinard created Chouinard equipment in the 1950s, which specialized in climbing gear. The company went bankrupt in 1989, then was purchased by a group of investors and turned it into Black Diam. Today, the brand is best known for their outdoor apparel, trekking poles, backpacks, tents, and headlamps.

[Max]

I was thinking of, like, basic shapes. Circle, square, triangle.

[Brody Henderson]

I just bought this here Black diamond.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh.

[Brody Henderson]

Carabiner for my keys.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Brody Henderson]

Like seven bucks.

[Spencer Newharth]

I imagine most folks in this room have operated one of their headlamps.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Yeah, we had the headlamps.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question 7. The topic is public lands. What is Canada's most visited national park?

[Max]

National park. Oh.

[Spencer Newharth]

Nate and Brody, Randall and John, all confident. What is Canada's most visited national park? Again, this is question seven.

[Nate]

I only know one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. You think it could be the one?

[Nate]

Well, apparently.

[Spencer Newharth]

Have you been there?

[Nate]

Nope. It's on the.

[Brody Henderson]

Listen up, Max.

[Max]

I spelled it wrong.

[Randall Brody]

Oh, now I'm.

[Spencer Newharth]

What is Canada's most visited national park? Randall, if you have this right, have you been to this place? There it is.

[Randall Brody]

Well, I'm second guessing my answer now.

[Nate]

Yeah, based on the spelling either. Max is really bad at spelling.

[Max]

Sometimes I just get stressed out and just can't spell. Just nervous.

[Spencer Newharth]

Just Randall having put an extra consonant in there. Yeah, maybe, but he hasn't picked up his whiteboard or marker.

[Randall Brody]

No, if. If the. The other answer that I'm thinking of is that if that's the actual answer, then it's going to be a zero percenter.

[Nate]

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. What is Canada's most visited national park? We're gonna flip over our whiteboards after Nate is done with his newest answer. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I do not.

[Spencer Newharth]

We have Solomon without an answer. Nate says Niagara Falls.

[Brody Henderson]

That's a good one.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall says Bamf. John Bamf. Max and Brody say bamf. They got it. The correct answer is.

[Randall Brody]

Sorry, did I make you say that?

[Nate]

No, I had Jasper, so.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, well, it touches it, so that's close. Banff is located west of Calgary, and at 1.6 million acres, it's about the size of Everglades national park. It had 4.3 million visitors last year, which would make it the fifth most visited national park in the United States. The park used to have woodland caribou, but the last five were crushed by an avalanche in 2009.

[Brody Henderson]

I'd like to know if most like the majority of those visitors are from the U.S. are we?

[John]

Sure.

[Nate]

Is Niagara Falls? Not in Canada.

[Spencer Newharth]

It also has to be a national.

[Brody Henderson]

Park straddles the border.

[Nate]

It's not national park.

[Spencer Newharth]

No, not on the American side.

[Nate]

What about the Canadian side?

[Spencer Newharth]

I don't know. Nate, you're not going to win this argument. Question 8. The topic is cooking. This next great question is via Leland Hart. Chemist Ernest.

[Brody Henderson]

Sounds like a soap opera name.

[John]

He's in. He's in the radio. Live chat every.

[Spencer Newharth]

And he writes a lot of questions. Chemist Ernest Wright invented this fluid which is used on meats and in cocktails by burning hickory wood under a condenser. Chemist Ernest Wright invented this fluid which is used on meats and in cocktails by burning hickory wood under a condenser. Max loves his answer. Brody and Randall also have answers. Nate has now joined them. Solomon, do you have this one right?

[Dr. Solomon David]

I don't think so, but.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Dr. Solomon David]

It fits the category.

[Spencer Newharth]

Does your lab have a condenser in it?

[Dr. Solomon David]

I. No, I don't think so. We've got a dryer. We have a drying oven.

[Spencer Newharth]

We're pretty low doing the opposite.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Chemist Ernest Wright invented this fluid which is used on meat and in cocktails by burning hickory wood under a condenser.

[Max]

You cheating over there? Are you?

[Nate]

No.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Research.

[Randall Brody]

Did that gorilla get a hold of your phone?

[Brody Henderson]

You know, Phil says you're not supposed to have those on while there's podcasts.

[Randall Brody]

It's just. Just airplane WI fi.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah.

[John]

Can I be honest? Because she's not in the room. It's mostly Corinne's phone. It's the same thing. You know how whenever Corinne's dogs go crazy, we get an email from. For the whole company. But it's, you know, we know it's about Corinne's dog.

[Brody Henderson]

Maybe we should outlaw Corinne's phone. Like we outlawed our dogs.

[Nate]

Niagara's not a national park in Canada.

[Spencer Newharth]

Thank you.

[Randall Brody]

Are they outlawed?

[Max]

I haven't seen them since that email.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is everybody ready?

[Max]

She's also been gone.

[John]

Love you, Karin.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon saying simple syrup. Nate says bitters. Catch something, Randall? Liquid smoke. John, without an answer. Max and Brody say liquid smoke. They got it. The correct answer is liquid smoke. Liquid Smoke is create by collecting droplets of condensation that are formed after burning sawdust. There is some disagreement on how safe it is to consume, but most scientists say that it's totally fine in small quantities. Liquid smoke is a common ingredient in marinades, soups, condiments, desserts, and old fashions.

[Max]

And bear baiting.

[Brody Henderson]

Really?

[Max]

Oh, the two bear hunts I've filmed, Both of them have used bear.

[Spencer Newharth]

Just because it's so powerful.

[Max]

It's powerful, but they then, like all the other little critters that come into the bear bait, they say they. They track that scent all the way out with them.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, I like that.

[Max]

Yeah. Liquid smoke.

[Randall Brody]

Most scientists say it's a hot. Totally fine.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah. When you Google it, you'll find a few folks that disagree. Some people say it's worse than smoking itself.

[Randall Brody]

Really?

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, I said some folks.

[Randall Brody]

I'd like to find that guy.

[Spencer Newharth]

We got two questions. Scoreboard updates.

[Max]

Oh, catching Nate, you feel it happens every time.

[John]

Let's see. Well, John, Max, Solomon and Nate can no longer catch up to win the game, but Randall has seven points and Brody has eight going into the last two questions.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody with the perfect game. Question nine. The topic is hunting. This is the place in a building that generates steam and hot water, which Outdoor Life says is, quote unquote, the best spot to shoot a deer. This is the place in a building that generates steam and hot water, which Outdoor Life says is the best spot to shoot a deer. Brody, Max, Nate, all quick to answer. Not Randall, though. If he were to get this wrong and Brody gets this right, the game would be over.

[Brody Henderson]

I feel like Randall's just toying with us.

[Nate]

More of a headshot, man.

[Spencer Newharth]

This is the place in a building that generates steam and hot water, which Outdoor Life says is the best spot to shoot a deer.

[Randall Brody]

I was reading this incorrectly.

[Spencer Newharth]

You got it now, though.

[Randall Brody]

I hope so. Okay, I've come up with a whole host of other answers.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I have no idea.

[Randall Brody]

Aren't a place you can shoot a deer.

[Spencer Newharth]

So the boudoir.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Yeah, Just take it literally. You're shooting a deer in a building, but.

[Max]

All right.

[Spencer Newharth]

John, how we doing down there?

[Nate]

Not good.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's like I'm trying to think of, like, how many ways like this can be interpreted, and I'm trying to pick the right one. This is the place in a building that generates steam and hot water, which Outdoor life. Is it really that simple?

[Max]

I think I got it.

[Dr. Solomon David]

So. Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Max]

I think you're overthinking it.

[Spencer Newharth]

This may be a 100 percenter.

[Max]

I hope I got it. Anyways.

[Spencer Newharth]

As soon as John is done writing.

[Randall Brody]

No, it's.

[John]

It's not.

[Spencer Newharth]

I. I don't know. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

[Dr. Solomon David]

There you go.

[Spencer Newharth]

We have Solomon and Nate and Randall saying boiler room. John says restroom, because that's where my mind went. Like, where would you choose to shoot a deer? Like, out the window.

[Nate]

Texas heart shot.

[John]

Yeah, that's.

[Spencer Newharth]

No, Max and Brody say boiler room. That is correct. It's boiler room. The boiler room refers to a deer's vitals, where the heart meets the lungs. An arrow or bullet placed here will quickly kill the deer with minimal meat loss. Aiming here also allows for the greatest margin of error, especially when the deer is broadside or quartering away. All right, here's a correct answer review so far. One, was Missouri. Two, Cleaver. Three, Buffalo. Four, Yogi. Five, Jane Goodall. Six, Black Diamond. Seven, Banff National Park. Eight, Liquid Smoke. Nine, Boiler room. Phil, let's do one more scoreboard Update before question 10.

[John]

It's looking pretty good for Brody, who still has a perfect game and nine points. But if he slips up on question 10, Randall has a chance to catch.

[Spencer Newharth]

Up and tie question 10. The topic is conservation. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Christina Scott for sending this great question. Christina is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win our listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia.com. this animal, which is crucial to agave and saguaro cacti, is the only mammal on the USDA's Very Important Pollinator list. This animal, which is crucial to agave and saguaro cacti, is the only mammal on the USDA's Very Important Pollinator list. For how specific you need to be. If you thought the answer was rainbow trout, you could just write down trout.

[Nate]

Nice.

[Max]

I'm going to put an actual mammal down, actually.

[Nate]

So let me see, let me see.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody does not have an answer yet. As a reminder, if he gets this right, not only does he win the game, but we will double the donation to $1,000 today.

[Randall Brody]

Nate, I'm going to give you a hint. Read all of the words in the question.

[Spencer Newharth]

Reminder. Brody is still in it.

[Randall Brody]

Unless that's there's a word in the question.

[Nate]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

This animal.

[John]

It's too late.

[Spencer Newharth]

Crucial to agave and saguaro cacti, is the only mammal on the USDA's Very Important Pollinator list.

[Max]

What am I missing?

[Randall Brody]

Randall, there's a word in there.

[Spencer Newharth]

Did Nate. Maybe not Have a mammal written down.

[Nate]

I have no idea what you're talking.

[Brody Henderson]

That's correct.

[Spencer Newharth]

Everybody ready?

[Max]

I had a.

[Spencer Newharth]

Again, if Brody gets this right, we will have a $1,000 donation today. And I think our second Perfect game of 2025. Brody, is everybody ready?

[Nate]

Oh, you know, I know what it is now.

[Spencer Newharth]

Mmm. You could change your answer.

[Nate]

No, no, no, it's okay. Integrousness.

[Brody Henderson]

What did you just say.

[Spencer Newharth]

Maxwell?

[Max]

Yeah, I'm good. I'm out.

[Spencer Newharth]

Anyway, so go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Solomon saying a bat, Nate, hummingbird, Randall, bat, John and Max. Without an answer, Brody says bat. The correct answer is bat. Meaning Brody got that right. Has the perfect game. The two most important bat species for pollination in North America are the lesser long nosed bat and Mexican long tongued bat. Bats pollinate 528plant species worldwide, including dragon fruit, bananas, mangoes, coconuts, and avocados. You should actually cheers a bat every time you have a margarita. Because bat. Because agave makes tequila and bats make.

[Randall Brody]

Agave and tequila makes her clothes fall off.

[Spencer Newharth]

Very good. Wise words from Luke Bryan. All right, Brody, what are we doing with the $1,000 donation today?

[Brody Henderson]

Solomon, what is it? Native fish for tomorrow.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Native fish for tomorrow?

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, let's do those guys.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Awesome.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, what do we like about them? What is that thousand dollars going to get?

[Brody Henderson]

Well, I'll let the expert explain.

[Dr. Solomon David]

I mean, they do a bunch of outreach activities just promoting native fish. They also submit comments when it comes to DNR about, you know, what are we going to do? What are some, you know, potential regulations. But again, it's really just promoting to the public, whether it's taking kids out fishing, putting together those types of activities. So I think it fits well. So a lot of those guys are good friends of mine too, so appreciate it.

[Spencer Newharth]

There you go. And Solomon had a strong showing today. Seven correct answers. He thought he was going to get one before we started recording.

[Randall Brody]

And Randall had a perfect game, except for one question about real estate prices, which might as well be what song am I thinking of?

[Spencer Newharth]

Well done, Brody. $1,000. Going to. One more time, what's it called?

[Dr. Solomon David]

Native Fish for Tomorrow.

[Spencer Newharth]

Native Fish for Tomorrow. Join us next week for more meat eater trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.

[Dr. Solomon David]

Thanks, Spencer. Thanks, Bill. Thank you. Great question.

[Nate]

That was a good.

[Meat Eater Podcast Announcer]

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[Spencer Newharth]

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