Ep. 797: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXCII

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast – Ep. 797: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXCII

Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Randall Williams (guest host, filling in for Steven Rinella)
Players: Cal (“the birthday boy”), Spencer, Hillary, Logan, Roman, Nate Mason
Engineer: Phil
Theme: “MeatEater Trivia”—a lively, humbling, and humor-filled special episode featuring a ten-round quiz game spanning hunting, fishing, conservation, cooking, natural history, and pop culture of the outdoors. The prize? A $500 donation to the winner’s conservation organization of choice.

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Episode Overview

In this competitive and comedic round of MeatEater Trivia, guest host Randall Williams challenges a crew of staple MeatEater personalities with trivia questions across the podcast’s four verticals: hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. As always, conservation “wins”—the winner gets to donate $500 to the cause of their choosing.
The episode is marked by the departure (to a new job) of beloved player Ryan “Cal” Callahan, competitive banter, multiple moments of collective brain-fog, and lots of unscripted fun.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Timestamps

1. Warm-up & Introductions (02:39)

• Randall Williams opens with a lighthearted tone, welcomes the team, and introduces the trivia game format.
• Special mention for Cal (“the birthday boy”) and his upcoming new job as BHA CEO.
• Memorable quote:
  • (Cal, on becoming BHA CEO, 07:06):
    “I quit wearing ties in D.C. quite a while ago because... I gotta relearn the YouTube video every time.”

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2. Infrequently Asked Question (IFAQ) Read-Aloud & Banter (03:04)

• Listener Nick Halverson gives props to Dr. Randall and Phil for dry wit and creative segments.
• Everyone reminisces about the infamous “Hundreds of Beavers” bit and Idaho Beaver Drop.
• Notable banter:
  • (Hillary, on old stories in outdoor circles, 05:19):
    “They rehash the Idaho Beaver drop every year or a couple of years. And people love it… that was done in, like, 1949.”

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3. Cal’s Last Game as Regular & Reflections on Conservation Coalitions (06:29)

• Cal shares excitement for BHA (Backcountry Hunters & Anglers), unity in conservation, and fighting against the narrative of “people can’t get along.”
• Quote:
  • (Cal, 08:38):
    “...right now there’s definitely—we’re being force fed a bunch of BS on how these places don’t have value or they could be better served in a certain way… I think there’s a lot of positive work to be done on building big coalitions of groups… And I just think that’s a bunch of crap.”

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MeatEater Trivia Game Begins! (10 Rounds starting at 10:12)

Each round features outdoorsy knowledge—often resulting in a group groan, a learning moment, or friendly ribbing.

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Question 1 (Cooking): Leading Cause of Foodborne Hospitalization (10:12)

• Question: “According to the CDC, which pathogen is the leading cause of hospitalization due to foodborne illness in the United States?”
  Choices: Salmonella, E. Coli, Norovirus, or Botulinum
• Correct Answer: Norovirus
• Memorable moment:
  • (Randall, 12:39):
    “Symptoms of norovirus include nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, stomach cramps, diarrhea, headaches, diarrhea, and muscle aches and diarrhea.”
• Everyone guesses wrong.
• Salads and trade show travel stories ensue.

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Question 2 (Hunting): Shot Material Densities (13:59)

• Order from densest to least: Lead, tungsten, steel, bismuth
• Correct Answer: Tungsten, lead, bismuth, steel
• Nobody gets it right; detailed discussion on non-toxic shot follows.
• Takeaway: Older hunters lament steel; tungsten nearly twice as dense as lead but pricey.

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Question 3 (Natural History): Ice Age Epoch (17:44)

• 11-letter word for the epoch ending 11,000 years ago:
• Correct Answer: Pleistocene
• Most answer Paleolithic, only Cal nails it.
• Randall’s comment:
  • (21:06): “It’s one of Steven Rinella’s favorite words.”

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Question 4 (Woodsmanship): International Distress Signal (26:36)

• How many gunshots/whistle blows = distress signal?
• Answer: 3
• All but one get it right.
• Real-world context: Oregon rescue search and a wild “three weeks stranded” survival story.

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Question 5 (Plants): Clumpy Grass Name (29:01)

• Only spreads from base or seeding, famous for tufts/clumps
• Answer: Bunchgrass (alternatively, tussock)
• Nate says fescue (correct as a type of bunchgrass)—quick ecology lesson ensues.

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Question 6 (Fishing): Catfish with Squarish Tail (33:43)

• Of big three catfish species, which lacks a forked tail?
• Answer: Flathead
• Several miss it, discussion on “channel vs blue,” and trivia night recall.

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Question 7 (Geology): Types of Rocks (37:31)

• Name two of three main rock types.
• Answer: Igneous, metamorphic, sedimentary
• Multiple funny variants: “sedentary,” “ignorance,” “volcanic.”
• Geological terms sidebar: “mafic” and “felsic.”

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Question 8 (Cinema): Classic Canoeing Catastrophe Movie (40:53)

• 1972 film: Four businessmen, doomed river trip.
• Answer: Deliverance
• Only Cal gets it, rest guess “Without a Paddle.”
• Randall, 43:29:
  "Every now and then I consider doing a special 60 Minute Movie Club episode on [Deliverance], but I don't think it would be good for our company."

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Question 9 (Fishing): Fish Egg Membrane (45:37)

• Five-letter word for the egg membrane/sac in salmonids:
• Answer: Skein
• Only Cal answers correctly, spelling banter follows.

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Question 10 (Navigation): Compass Directions (53:11)

• Term for directions like SW/SE/NW/NE:
• Answer: Ordinal
• Everyone flails with creative answers (“bishop,” “medial,” “tertiary,” “eagle”).

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Tiebreaker: Life Jacket Stats (58:16)

• What % of drowning victims weren’t wearing life jackets (2024 data)?
• Answer: 87%
• Closest guess: Nate at 88%.

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Final Scoreboard & Winner

• Winner: Cal (Ryan Callahan), with a comfortable margin.
• Donation: Cal selects BHA, specifically highlighting an “incredible conservationist working the phones” at BHA.
• Set up as his likely final game as a MeatEater regular, with farewells, laughs, and humility about today’s struggle.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Conservation & Working Together:
  • (Cal, 08:38): “I talk to people I disagree with all the time and it’s always a good conversation… building big coalitions of groups that all these people tell us can’t get along. And I just think that’s a bunch of crap.”
• On Norovirus (Randall, humorously):
  • (12:39): “Symptoms of norovirus include nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, stomach cramps, diarrhea, headaches, diarrhea, and muscle aches and diarrhea.”
• On Getting Humbled by Trivia:
  • (Randall, 52:33): “The game is effectively over because Ryan Callahan has two points in the lead and cannot lose… Why don’t we throw out a lame duck here…”
• On Deliverance:
  • (Randall, 43:29): “...I don’t think it would be good for our company” if they did an episode about Deliverance.
• On Playing Along/“Gang” and “Team”:
  • Ongoing riff about Randall’s use of the words “gang” and “team,” which some YouTube commenters apparently dislike:
  • (Phil, 22:14): “If you are a person who's ever complained about Randall saying gang or team... just stop listening to MeatEater content.”
• On Embarrassment at Trivia Defeat:
  • (Hillary, 62:00): “No. I’ve never been so embarrassed to win.”

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Takeaways, Tone, and Episode Spirit

• Tone: Irreverent, self-deprecating, competitive, and friendly—a group of outdoor experts repeatedly humbled by their own trivia game.
• Spirit: Even the pros don’t know everything. Being stumped leads to learning and laughs, with a lot of love for wild places and each other.
• Many questions resulted in “goose eggs,” highlighting the challenge and camaraderie of competitive trivia.
• Nugget of wisdom: “If you got a perfect game on today’s episode, email me at triviator.com… and yeah, I'd like to know you.” (Randall, 56:42)

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Summary Table: Key Questions & Answers

| Topic | Question Highlight | Correct Answer | |------------|------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Cooking | Leading hospitalized foodborne pathogen? | Norovirus | | Hunting | Shot material, densest to least? | Tungsten, Lead, Bismuth, Steel | | History | Ice age epoch (11 letters)? | Pleistocene | | Woodcraft | Intl. distress signal (gunshots/whistles)? | 3 | | Plants | Clumpy grass type? | Bunchgrass/Tussock | | Fishing | Big 3 catfish without forked tail? | Flathead | | Geology | Two of three major rock types? | Igneous, Sedimentary, Metamorphic | | Cinema | 1972 canoe disaster film? | Deliverance | | Fishing | 5-letter word for salmon egg sac? | Skein | | Navigation | Directions like NW/SE on compass? | Ordinal | | Tiebreaker | % drowning victims without life jacket? (2024) | 87 |

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For Listeners Who Missed the Game

This episode is a must for fans of outdoor knowledge, humility, and humor. It showcases the unpredictabilities of even seasoned outdoorspeople facing obscure (and not-so-obscure) questions, with the spirit of conservation winning at the end.
Expect lots of laughs, a bit of self-roasting, hard-won facts (often after wild guesses), and the camaraderie of the MeatEater crew bidding Cal a fond, funny (not-so-final) farewell.

Conservation wins, Cal wins, and everyone has something new to learn (and Google).

Transcript

[Randall Williams]

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[Brady]

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[Spencer]

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[Randall Williams]

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[Brady]

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[Randall Williams]

It's a media podcast. Phil, what do you say we pull the old starter cord on this bad boy?

[Phil (Engineer)]

That was if it didn't work. But it's working.

[Randall Williams]

We're recording right now. I wanted to start before I said that.

[Logan]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

I was waiting for the music to play.

[Phil (Engineer)]

No, I had that in post.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I know, I know. It's off to a bit.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Should we start? Should I play the theme live?

[Randall Williams]

I think it'd be a nice touch.

[Spencer]

But do whatever you'd like.

[Randall Williams]

This is a good entry. This is a good entry point. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your guest host, Randall Williams. Today I'm joined by Cal the birthday boy, Spencer not birthday Hillary, not birthday Logan. Roman and the big dog, Nate Mason.

[Hillary]

Wow.

[Randall Williams]

This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eater's four verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. There is a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the Conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Here's our infrequently asked questions segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it to triviator.com with the subject line IFAQ. Today's IFAQ is from Nick Halverson, longtime listener, first time caller. I wanted to address some members of the team and quote, give them their flowers if you will. This is in response to episode 719 of Radio Live where I heard a lot of shade being thrown at Dr. Randall from some listeners. Dr. Randall has become one of my favorites to listen to. He is very smart. Sometimes you pick this randomly, sometimes articulate, which I thought was a nice qualification, and often very funny. His quick, dry and dark sense of humor is an excellent addition to the show. Along with Phil the engineer, who could be the funniest, most interesting member of the whole crew.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Wow. I like this, Nick.

[Randall Williams]

I especially enjoyed episode 713 of Radio Live which has to be one of the most hilarious and creative episodes that you guys have done yet. More. Excuse me, More like that, please. My favorite hunting podcast is becoming my favorite comedy podcast. Color me entertained. All that to say more Phil, more Dr. Randall and more. Spencer. I don't know why he included you.

[Spencer]

Yeah, he didn't say anything about me beforehand.

[Hillary]

Did you tell this guy that coloring people is kind of out of vogue these days?

[Randall Williams]

I. That's, that's edgy.

[Phil (Engineer)]

That's why this is his favorite comedy.

[Randall Williams]

Spencer, I think he included you so that you would read this email.

[Spencer]

That's right.

[Randall Williams]

Thank you. Great work on all the shows you guys are doing. The Lord's work. Sincerely, Nick Halverson. Thank you, Nick. Everybody here at the table appreciates your comments.

[Spencer]

That's a good question.

[Randall Williams]

I need to look up episode 713 of Radio Live. I didn't.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Apparently you were on fire.

[Randall Williams]

I meant to do that.

[Spencer]

I would imagine that was the Hundreds of Beavers episode, but I do not know.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that was very funny.

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Especially the bit about hundreds of beavers.

[Hillary]

Did you guys do the Idaho beaver drop deal? Is that what you're covering?

[Randall Williams]

No, no. I, I, it's hard to explain.

[Spencer]

Conceptual has nothing to do with.

[Randall Williams]

And there's a very conceptual comedic bit in the middle of it. That was a two part play between Me and Phil, I was every.

[Hillary]

They rehash the Idaho Beaver drop every year or a couple of years. And people love it. Like the artist.

[Spencer]

I'm gonna rehash it at some point.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

So be careful.

[Hillary]

Yeah, but it's amazing. Like, that was done in, like, 1949.

[Spencer]

Long time ago.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

For the record, I'll point out that I did not select this email. Spencer selected this email.

[Spencer]

I was waiting for.

[Randall Williams]

Spencer thought it would be funny if I read it. I agreed. I agreed to read it. And it's fun reading it aloud. Actually. It's more meaningful than when you just look at it on your phone. Briefly on the couch. Now for housekeeping Today, let's address that I am losing one of my all time favorite trivia competitors. Ryan. Cal Callahan. No, he's not dying. He's just taking a new job. Cal, why don't you tell folks what's next?

[Hillary]

I. I can't participate in trivia. We have guests all the time, Spencer.

[Randall Williams]

Actually, you can chill up, Spencer. Spencer wrote that too.

[Logan]

I wonder who he'll donate to.

[Spencer]

I. I was saving myself the rejection, you know, going forward, I assumed, you know, oh, this couldn't fit in.

[Hillary]

The calendar's not fun at all. But yeah, incoming CEO at BHA. So January 1st, I'm gonna start CEO gig, which is an acronym.

[Logan]

You're going to be a suit?

[Hillary]

Well, yeah, I've. I've. I quit wearing ties in D.C. quite a while ago because I just. It takes me. I got to relearn the YouTube video every time.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah, we tied our ties together with YouTube. That.

[Hillary]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Randall Williams]

It was fun.

[Spencer]

My wife asked me over Halloween. She had a costume that involved a tie. How to tie a tie. And I said, just go to YouTube. There's the one video that this guy did it first on YouTube.

[Hillary]

And now, nice little background music.

[Spencer]

Every man under 40 years old has watched that video.

[Randall Williams]

And that dude is a millionaire. Yeah, he's gotta be multiple times.

[Spencer]

And it's not even a good video. He was just the guy to do it at one point. And then it became the video that everyone watches the day of a wedding.

[Randall Williams]

Has anybody made a shoe tying video yet?

[Spencer]

Oh, could be.

[Hillary]

Get on it. Yeah, man, I'm. I'm super stoked. Public lands, waters and wildlife. Big, big part of my life. And I'm very excited to ensure, any way I can to make sure that. That people stand up for those things and the proper management of those things and the continued access those things. Ideally, ideally, expanded opportunities out there. Because yeah, man, I think that right now there's definitely. We're being force fed a bunch of BS on how these places don't have value or they could be better served in a certain way. And something I'm reminded of all the time, just like driving around the home state here is I feel like we're just really being force fed this idea that people don't get along and can't come to terms on this stuff. I talk to people I disagree with all the time and it's always a good conversation. So I think there's a lot of positive work to be done on. On building big coalitions of groups that all these people tell us can't get along. And I just think that's a bunch of crap.

[Randall Williams]

As a follow up, who are you going to miss the most as a trivia competitor?

[Hillary]

Well, you guys do nothing but produce media. How could I ever miss someone? You'll be in my ears.

[Phil (Engineer)]

He's already saying, you guys good?

[Spencer]

Politician. You people Politician.

[Hillary]

No. Plus, I'm going to be participating a bunch over here. I'm going to maintain the podcast and jump in on some. Some projects here and there. So are you still going to share.

[Spencer]

An office with Randall? Randall. Are you going to keep his seat?

[Hillary]

I was going to say, I guarantee nobody remembers to turn off my key fob.

[Logan]

Okay.

[Hillary]

It's like anytime I need to use a copy machine, you got some mail.

[Randall Williams]

You got some mail in the office today.

[Hillary]

Anytime I need pens, stuff like that.

[Logan]

Yeah, sausage stuffer.

[Randall Williams]

I am thinking about making cows.

[Hillary]

Commercial kitchen.

[Randall Williams]

Cal's workspace. Just sort of a communal sitting area where we can air our grievances to come up with the next great film idea. Okay, now the Sydney index for today is a four, so our winner should get eight correct answers. And with that, we're onto the game of trivia. Play the drop.

[Spencer]

Phil didn't say please.

[Randall Williams]

Look, I need to know what I stand to win.

[Spencer]

Everything. How's that?

[Randall Williams]

You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers. Question one. In the category of cooking, according to the cdc, which pathogen is the leading cause of hospitalization due to foodborne illness in the United States? Salmonella. Your options are salmonella, E. Coli, norovirus, or botulinum.

[Spencer]

Whoa, that's a good question.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Man.

[Randall Williams]

According to the cdc, which pathogen is the leading cause of hospitalization due to foodborne illness in the United States? Again, your choices are salmonella, E. Coli, norovirus, or botulinum.

[Spencer]

Randall, you said you were coming up with questions at deer camp with your buddies. Did you credit them for any questions in the script?

[Randall Williams]

No, I. I will do that, though.

[Spencer]

Did they come up with any.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Spencer]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

I pulled probably five or six of these off my phone, man.

[Spencer]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Including the one that I had to cut.

[Spencer]

So this is a good question.

[Hillary]

It's always better to start things off on the right foot with the. With the check in the old got it column. But I'm torn.

[Spencer]

Has anybody had one thinking here.

[Randall Williams]

Anybody had one of these?

[Logan]

I have.

[Hillary]

Well, that's what. What makes me torn is half the fricking office got tapped out last year with one of these.

[Logan]

But did they go to the hospital?

[Hillary]

And does the CDC say it's a foodborne illness thing? Okay.

[Randall Williams]

Interesting, interesting.

[Hillary]

And who goes to the hospital?

[Logan]

Old people who want to die.

[Spencer]

Yeah, Hillary when she's breaking bones.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I've been to the hospitality.

[Hillary]

Hillary's a frequent flyer at the hospital.

[Unknown Guest]

Just the orthopedic surgeon office.

[Randall Williams]

Do we have. Do we have answers, gang? Let's flip them over. Roman says E. Coli. Hillary says salmonella. Spencer says salmonella. Logan says E. Coli. Nate says salmonella. Cal says E. Coli. Oh, geez, guys, the answer is norovirus.

[Hillary]

Damn it.

[Randall Williams]

That's what I had.

[Hillary]

Dang. That was the other one.

[Randall Williams]

According to CDC data, there are 9.9 million cases of domestically acquired foodborne illness in the United states, resulting in 53,000 hospitalizations and 931 deaths. While Salmonella was the leading cause of death in these cases, norovirus was responsible for more than half of all cases overall and nearly half of all hospitalizations. Symptoms of norovirus include nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, stomach cramps, diarrhea, headaches, diarrhea, and muscle aches and diarrhea.

[Hillary]

But it's still just not as sexy as E. Coli.

[Logan]

Oh, no, dude. I got norovirus coming home from Western Hunt, and it was the worst plane ride of my life.

[Spencer]

Is there a specific food that you'll get it from?

[Logan]

I had a bison steak the night before, so maybe that one.

[Randall Williams]

I got it from a bagged salad one time, I think.

[Spencer]

I feel like that's every foodborne illness.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

That comes from bagged lettuce.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

And we haven't been back to bagged salads, which is a real shame for the produce folks at Costco.

[Hillary]

That's the sad truth of the trade show circuit is, like, the whole time you're like, I want to be healthy. I need to get a salad. But then you're like, that salad will kill you. Get something deep fat, fried Just muscle through that salad.

[Spencer]

Has to fend off the shot. Show flu.

[Randall Williams]

Our next question. That's question two for those of you following along. Comes to us. In the category of hunting. Rank the following from densest to least dense. Lead, tungsten, steel, and bismuth. Rank the following from densest to least dense. Lead, tungsten, steel, bismuth. And you can just use the first letter of each word, which will make it easier for me to read your answers. Rank the following from densest to least dense. Lead, tungsten, steel, and bismuth. Folks are working hard here, doing some math.

[Hillary]

Now it's a list.

[Randall Williams]

You got your answer, Cal, do you feel good?

[Hillary]

Yeah, pretty good. I mean, you can't feel good after missing the first answer.

[Randall Williams]

No, but everybody missed it, so you're all still on the same page. Let's just consider this the first question.

[Spencer]

Did Sydney get that one right?

[Randall Williams]

She did. She also partook in that bagged Caesar. It hit me first. There was a night of me. She probably got it from me cleaning up the bathroom after me.

[Hillary]

You're like, well, I gotta go to work.

[Randall Williams]

No, no, I did not go to work for like three days. Yeah.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Was this the Costco bag, Caesar?

[Randall Williams]

It was. It was. I know.

[Phil (Engineer)]

I love kind of like. Like a standby for us when we need just something to throw, I think.

[Randall Williams]

I mean, they were.

[Hillary]

They.

[Randall Williams]

They're batting a pretty high percentage.

[Spencer]

Phil, did you go to the doctor?

[Randall Williams]

No. Oh, no.

[Spencer]

So it was never reported. You. You might have just let, you know, millions of other people.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that's one case that throws off the CDC data. Looks like we all have answers. Gang, flip over those boards. Roman says bismuth, tungsten, lead, steel. Hillary says bismuth, lead, tungsten, steel. Spencer says tungsten, bismuth steel, lead. Logan says tungsten steel, bismuth, lead. Nate says lead, tungsten, bismuth, steel. Cal says lead, tungsten, bismuth, steel. Phil, I don't know if you're following along, but I'm fairly certain that that's another zero percent.

[Hillary]

You'd be correct, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

The correct answer is tungsten, lead, bismuth, and steel.

[Hillary]

Really? Steel's the least dense?

[Randall Williams]

Yep. Lead has long been used, and I have the grams per cubic centimeter. But I don't think that's very interesting. Nor is it easy to read. Lead has long been used as the gold standard for firearm projectiles, but it is illegal to use lead shot for waterfowl hunting due to its toxicity. Steel is the most common non toxic alternative. But it is less dense than lead so typically, hunters will choose a larger shot size to maintain energy. Bismuth is closer to lead's density than steel, but it is more expensive. Tungsten is the densest, but again, its cost is a significant factor.

[Phil (Engineer)]

The.

[Spencer]

The pheasant hunters, the old guys. Where I grew up in South Dakota, if you hunt public land, you have to use steel. If you hunt private, it's your choice.

[Hillary]

Non toxic, right?

[Spencer]

Non toxic, yeah. The common choice was always steel.

[Hillary]

Right.

[Spencer]

But dudes would complain, usually old men, that the steel flew too slow for them, so that's why you weren't getting any birds.

[Hillary]

It significantly drops off the table.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

Out there at 30 yards.

[Randall Williams]

Something like that.

[Hillary]

Like that, yeah.

[Logan]

Bismuth's hot commodity right now. Chinese getting us.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Especially at 9.8 grams per cubic centimeter, tungsten almost has twice the density of lead. Fascinating. Question three, Natural history. What? Eleven letter word refers to the geological time period that ended 11,000 years ago, characterized by the presence of large land mammals and birds, as well as extensive ice sheets and glaciers In North America.

[Hillary]

11 letters.

[Randall Williams]

What? 11 letter word refers to the geological time period that ended 11,000 years ago, characterized by the presence of large land mammals and birds, as well as extensive ice sheets and glaciers in North America.

[Spencer]

You know this one?

[Hillary]

Hillary.

[Randall Williams]

Hillary's got an answer way quick. Nate's got an answer. Spencer's got an. Yeah, especially for 11 letters.

[Logan]

I got 11 letters.

[Randall Williams]

Cal's got an answer.

[Logan]

Wait, wait.

[Randall Williams]

Roman's got a blank board. Logan's tapping his board and looking at me.

[Unknown Guest]

I was just in Utah, and we found a new spot where you can see dinosaur prints.

[Hillary]

On Sam's antelope hunt, I found this, like, big mud spire that was solid fossils.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

I was like, it's so illegal, but I just want to destroy this whole thing. But I'm pretty sure they were. They had to be like bison. Antiquus is kind of what my guess was. It was amazing.

[Logan]

Dude, that petrified wood that I sent you, the landowner wanted it.

[Brady]

Oh, I know, Nate.

[Hillary]

I know, dude.

[Logan]

It was the right thing to do, but it hurts.

[Spencer]

But I. I feel like that's a rare occasion where the land would be like, yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Worst part is, he's like, oh, I'm.

[Logan]

Real interested in rocks.

[Spencer]

Nate found some great petrified wood, dude.

[Logan]

It stands up. It is a perfect built bookend. It stands up. It's amazing. Anyways, it's like, I really love rocks. It's like, all right, hey, dude, your property. Do whatever you want.

[Brady]

He takes it from me.

[Logan]

He's like, let me show you my other ones. I got. Oh. Tosses it by the side of his. Like next to his hose, like, just on the side of his house. He's got a chunk this big that looks like some dinosaur a billion years ago. Split it for firewood. It looks like firewood. And then he's got another chunk even bigger than his buddy found and gave to him. It hurt my soul.

[Randall Williams]

Logan, do you have an answer?

[Hillary]

I do.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Roman, I got nothing. Are you going to come up with an answer?

[Logan]

How much time do we have?

[Randall Williams]

Would you like to just take a few seconds? And I'm still reeling from hangman comment that someone made recently, so. No, no, I'll just take him.

[Hillary]

All right.

[Randall Williams]

Kang. Sorry, I used the word gang again. And you know, the. The YouTube comments don't like it. They think it's a bad word to use Gang. Yeah, they say he says it too much. Gang and team. In any event, Roman doesn't have an answer. Hillary has Paleolithic, Spencer has Precambrian, Logan has Paleolithic, Nate has Paleolithic, and Cal has Pleistocene, which is not right. The correct answer is Pleistocene.

[O'Reilly Auto Parts Announcer]

Wow.

[Randall Williams]

It's one of Stephen Renault confident. Stephen Renault's favorite words. The Pleistocene epoch, spanning from 2.6 million to 11,700 years ago, was characterized by repeated glaciations across much of North America and Eurasia. This geological period saw the evolution of many modern mammal species, including early humans, alongside iconic megafauna like woolly mammoths, saber toothed cats, and giant ground sloths. That's a place seen the Ice Age. I like to call that the ice Age. I thought that was gonna be a. I thought that was gonna be a higher percentage. Jeez.

[Hillary]

Tough room. Tough room.

[Randall Williams]

How does the Sydney Index go?

[Spencer]

She might win.

[Randall Williams]

The Sydney Index actually is. It's pretty competitive.

[Spencer]

We might have to call her and see where she wants to donate that money.

[Randall Williams]

I got a couple gimmes coming up, so don't.

[Hillary]

That would be a fun twist. That would be great.

[Logan]

Or call her for overtime.

[Hillary]

So that's.

[Randall Williams]

So we have six contestants. So far we've offered 18 answers and one of them has been correct.

[Hillary]

That's true.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yes.

[Randall Williams]

This is a smashing success.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Gang.

[Hillary]

Gang.

[Randall Williams]

Come on, team. Who the hell's Ratter?

[Hillary]

People are right.

[Phil (Engineer)]

I know. If you are a person who's ever complained about Randall saying gang or team, I want you to just stop listening to. To meat eater content.

[Randall Williams]

I just think it's.

[Phil (Engineer)]

And I'll tell that to the CEO. I don't care.

[Hillary]

I I think it's, they're very inclusive terms. Yeah, we're all in it together, folks.

[Spencer]

It's not going to bother Randall at all.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

Nope.

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[Randall Williams]

Question number four comes to us in the category of woodsmanship. How many gunshots or blows of a whistle constitutes the international distress signal? How many gunshots or blows of a whistle. Hmm, I guess it should be constitute the international distress signal. Phil, if we ever do this again.

[Phil (Engineer)]

We should cut that s. You know what? I can change it live. You want to see this?

[Spencer]

Yes.

[Randall Williams]

Oh yeah, that's good. That's much better.

[Spencer]

The font got bigger too.

[Randall Williams]

Did it? That's much better.

[Spencer]

I don't know.

[Randall Williams]

Looks like most folks have an answer. Logan, are you ready? Flip them over. Team Roman says three, Larry says five, Spencer says three, Logan three, Nate three and Cal three. The correct answer is three. Three whistles or gunshots in succession has become widely recognized as an international distress signal in wilderness and outdoor settings, allowing people to communicate that they need urgent help even when Visibility is poor or across long distances. The universal signal is taught in wilderness survival courses worldwide and is distinctive enough to be recognized as intentional rather than environmental noise. Though in modern times, it's often supplemented by other emergency signals like mirrors, flares, and satellite communicators.

[Spencer]

I think there's a guy in Oregon right now missing they're looking for, and they heard his three shots or they heard gunshots. I assume it was three, which is kind of scary that they know he's out there and he wants to be found and they haven't found him.

[Randall Williams]

Well, that's good.

[Unknown Guest]

Buddies with Dave.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, really?

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, whoa.

[Unknown Guest]

Devin Dobeck.

[Hillary]

Crazy. That's a. That's a bummer. That dude in California spent three weeks in his truck. Did you guys read that one?

[Spencer]

Snowstorm.

[Hillary]

Yeah, snowstorm. And, you know, it was like the three hour tour scenario and was like, okay, I gotta stay here. And then eventually. And he knew the, like, the hunting calendar of, like, when the next opener was and stuff. And so he's like, I have got to hike out at this point or else nobody's gonna be up here.

[Spencer]

Damn.

[Hillary]

Yeah. Yeah. Pretty interesting.

[Randall Williams]

On to question five, which comes to us in the category of plants and stuff. This type of grass can only be spread by seeding or new shoots from the base of an existing plant, which results in the tufts or clumps of growth that give it its name. This type of grass can only be spread by seeding or new shoots from the base of an existing plant, which results in the tufts or clumps of growth that give it its name. Cal's got an answer.

[Hillary]

I do have an answer.

[Randall Williams]

Feel good about it?

[Hillary]

Yeah, I thought it was something else, but then I had to listen to the rest of your voice there, and then I changed my answer.

[Randall Williams]

There are actually two acceptable answers, only one of which is related to the final clue in this question. But hang on, hang on. I'll tell you all about that in.

[Logan]

A little bit here.

[Randall Williams]

Nate's got an answer.

[Logan]

I have a word.

[Randall Williams]

Hillary's writing something, shrugging, frowning, shaking her head.

[Hillary]

There's a possible answer in.

[Unknown Guest]

That's what I'm going with. Yeah, yeah, I gathered that.

[Hillary]

So.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, geez.

[Hillary]

Well, hey, maybe I didn't want to assume.

[Randall Williams]

Maybe I've overlooked something.

[Hillary]

Five whistle blasts.

[Unknown Guest]

There's some options, though.

[Randall Williams]

This type of grass can only spread by seeding or new shoots from the base of an existing plant, which results in the tufts or clumps of growth that give it its name. Nate's got an answer. Logan.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yeah.

[Logan]

I don't know if it's even.

[Hillary]

I just have a word.

[Logan]

Dude, I thought we were gonna be much more aligned, and I'm not with you today. Yeah, we wore the same shirt.

[Randall Williams]

Sydney got this one. I was gonna say today, one of.

[Spencer]

You is gonna have to take it off. I think it's getting too confusing.

[Logan]

Oh, dude. Well, I can't.

[Hillary]

Random family show.

[Randall Williams]

I can't take it off due to the shirt I'm wearing underneath it.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

It doesn't align with our corporate values.

[Logan]

Yeah, I've got a bear canoeing under this.

[Randall Williams]

That's pretty sick. Show that one. No, take it off.

[Hillary]

It's a tattoo.

[Randall Williams]

I'm the host today. Nate, take your shirt off.

[Unknown Guest]

Red shirt.

[Logan]

Okay.

[Hillary]

Yeah, I thought that was.

[O'Reilly Auto Parts Announcer]

I'll show mine, you show yours.

[Brady]

No, I can't.

[Randall Williams]

I literally show my. Going to get me in trouble.

[Logan]

Come on.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Do we all have answers before Nate told you Bears the bear on its chest.

[Spencer]

I'm going to change real quick.

[Randall Williams]

Spencer's changing real quick.

[Logan]

Your shirt.

[Randall Williams]

That's good. This is a great episode. Flip them over, everybody. Roman says seed grass. Hillary says tuft grass. Spencer says clump grass. Logan says cheatgrass. Nate says fescue. Cal says bunch grass. Now, the answers I was looking at. Looking for. What about buffalo bunch grass or tussock?

[Hillary]

Oh, tussock.

[Logan]

That's what I was thinking of.

[Randall Williams]

Fescue is a type of bunch grass. Oh, I'm right. It's a type of bunch grass. I don't necessarily know that. I could.

[Hillary]

Here we go.

[Randall Williams]

Rule that out there. Because I didn't specify, like, the. The level.

[Hillary]

Oh, he's going to his phone.

[Logan]

Here we go. Here we go.

[Randall Williams]

Well, you can. Bunch grasses are perennial grass species that grow in discrete clumps or tufts rather than forming continuous sod, creating distinctive rounded shapes with deep root systems that make them exceptionally drought resistant and valuable for erosion control.

[Hillary]

That's what all of our lawn should be in. Bozeman.

[Randall Williams]

These ecologically important grasses, which include varieties like Blue Grammar, fescue and wheat grass, provide critical habitat for grassland wildlife and can survive in challenging environments. What do we think? Should we give it to Nate?

[Brady]

Gang?

[Spencer]

You should give it to him.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I think we give it to him.

[Logan]

Thank you.

[Hillary]

Yesterday was Veterans Day.

[Spencer]

Veterans Week.

[Randall Williams]

So, Phil, chalk that as a point for Nate there.

[Hillary]

Point for Nate. If we can give him a good loan rate, we can give him an extra answer.

[Logan]

Indeed. Yep, I will take both.

[Randall Williams]

We are now halfway through our game of trivia. Phil, may I please have a scoreboard update.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Oh, thank you for saying please. So kind of you. I love it when you host. We've got Roman. Oh, wait. Hillary has zero points. Roman, Spencer and Logan are tied up with one. Nate has two. And in first place, it's Ryan Callahan with three points.

[Randall Williams]

Sidney's still in it. Question six. Which of the quote, big three catfish species native to North America does not have a forked tail?

[Hillary]

Oh, that's great.

[Randall Williams]

Which of the big Spencer's got an answer.

[Hillary]

Spencer's got an answer.

[Randall Williams]

Which of the big three catfish. Nate's got an answer. Big three catfish species native to North America does not have a forked tail.

[Hillary]

How long did it take Spencer to write that?

[Spencer]

I don't know.

[Logan]

And how fast does he write?

[Randall Williams]

But there are also two catfish species that have a very similar number of letters. In fact, they have this shush at Randolph.

[Spencer]

He's held it out the room.

[Phil (Engineer)]

I've just been sent a message from one of the suits upstairs asking me to retract my previous statement, turning listeners away from listening to the show, regardless of their insane comments. And to check out all of our other content on the meat eater podcast network, like Blood Trails. Our new show hosted Jordan Sillers.

[Randall Williams]

Very good.

[Phil (Engineer)]

That's getting some great American west with.

[Randall Williams]

Dan Flores nominated for a Webby award.

[Phil (Engineer)]

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[Logan]

Man, you just warmed some suits heart, dude.

[Randall Williams]

Question six. Which of the big three catfish species native to North America does not have a forked tail? Are those who do not have answers. Are you still. Why don't you guess? Just name a catfish.

[Unknown Guest]

Give us a multiple choice.

[Hillary]

I think all I know is there's three catfish.

[Spencer]

It's just a catfish.

[Hillary]

I don't like my answer, but I don't know for certain. So, Spencer, you're.

[Spencer]

I have this one, right? Yes.

[Randall Williams]

Nate, how are you feeling?

[Logan]

It's exactly how I felt the last one. Do I got last one right?

[Randall Williams]

God, I really screwed up this game.

[Logan]

I'm not a big fisherman if you didn't know.

[Randall Williams]

But you don't have to be a fisherman to appreciate catfish or know what they look like.

[Spencer]

Yeah, you grew up in Ohio.

[Logan]

I did not grow up at all.

[Spencer]

You should love catfish.

[Randall Williams]

All right, well, let's flip over those boards. Roman Cat. Roman says the southern catfish. The eastern Spencer, the flathead Logan, the southern catfish. Nate says the blue Cat. And Cal says the channel cat.

[Hillary]

See, the flathead is my favorite, so that's what I was inclined to go with.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, they had those. I mean, the correct answer is flathead catfish.

[Hillary]

Yeah, nice.

[Randall Williams]

Flathead, blue and channel catfish make up the quote big. Three distinct species found in North American waters. Flatheads, also known as shovelheads, are distinctive from the other two, both in the shape of their head, their brown and yellowish coloration, and their squarish tail. Both blues and channels have forked tails. With channel's tales more deeply forked than blues.

[Logan]

That whitetail I sent you a while back. 170 inch.

[Hillary]

I picked the worst of the big three.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, yeah. And the funny thing is, the most forked. You've heard this question before? Oh, I asked it when I hosted BHA Rendezvous Trivia in Minneapolis. And because I had to cut out a question at the very last minute, I thought I'd go back and pick a question from that event.

[Hillary]

Nice.

[Randall Williams]

And I said, well, Cal's heard them.

[Hillary]

I was too anxiety ridden because I had to do the scorekeeping. Oh, really?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. And I just thought it was very low odds that you remembered hearing this question, even though it's such a good question.

[Spencer]

Blues and channels. Their tail fin is almost identical. And a lot. In a lot of ways, they're almost identical. The way you tell them apart is they're anal rays. One has more anal rays than the other.

[Hillary]

Which one?

[Spencer]

God, I don't remember. Now. I think it's a blue is like between 22 and 24 and a channel is like 18 to 20 or something.

[Randall Williams]

But you don't have to count them because you can just show a photo of it to somebody and tell them it's a channel or a blue and they likely can't tell the difference.

[Hillary]

Yep.

[Randall Williams]

On to question seven in the category of geology.

[Hillary]

I got everybody and a bonus trivia question right there. Yeah, send a. Thank you, Zen. Go ahead.

[Randall Williams]

Question seven. Geology. Name two of the three types of rocks. I thought this was fun.

[Phil (Engineer)]

This was really funny.

[Randall Williams]

I actually thought about making an entire trivia episode based off of elementary school science.

[Hillary]

This is going to be embarrassing if.

[Randall Williams]

I get this one wrong.

[Logan]

Uh, oh, wait, are you going to.

[Randall Williams]

Get this run wrong? Spencer, you're a rock guy. See, that's your thing. Hillary's got an answer. Logan's got an answer. No, I've got part of an answer. Nate's got an answer.

[Logan]

The first one I felt good about.

[Randall Williams]

I thought everybody would just laugh at this, but I also thought this game would be better. It's going poorly.

[Hillary]

Well, just by the scoreboard.

[Randall Williams]

Wait till you get the net. The next question.

[Spencer]

It's your buddy's fault. Your buddies came up with these questions.

[Unknown Guest]

Do we get bonus if. If they list all three.

[Randall Williams]

I thought about having people list all three. You won't get a bonus, but you'll display your.

[Spencer]

You'll flex.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. You'll flex. On the listeners. The shot density question I'd like to credit to Christian Hughes of Seattle, Washington, longtime listener of the program and my best friend since the age of nine. Pleistocene was also Christian.

[Spencer]

Wow.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

Best friend.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

What do you like so much about him? It's taking you a little too long.

[Randall Williams]

We share a certain sensibility about the world. We have a lot in common. He's owned more guns than he can remember.

[Spencer]

Oh, you.

[Logan]

More than you?

[Randall Williams]

He's the one who got the locker full of guns burglarized from his home.

[Hillary]

Mm.

[Randall Williams]

He collects weird stuff. We all. We all got answers. Turn them over. Sorry for the dead air. Roman says sedimentary ignorance.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Hillary says sedimentary, metamorphic, igneous. Spencer says sedentary, but he crosses out. And he wrote igneous, metamorphic. Logan said sedimentary and igneous. Nate said igneous, metamorphic, and crossed out sedimentary. And Cal wrote sedimentary and volcanic.

[Hillary]

I had all the other words rattling around my brain.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Hillary]

I just couldn't. What about mayfac and malfac? Those are two excellent. I like those geology terms, too.

[Randall Williams]

I don't know. I don't know. I was hoping that someone would write sedentary, but you saved your ass by crossing it out. Igneous rocks form from cooling magma.

[Spencer]

What's the answer?

[Randall Williams]

Oh, igneous, metamorphic and sedimentary. Igneous rocks form from cooling magma, while sedimentary rocks develop from compressed layers of debris, and metamorphic rocks result from existing rocks transformed under heat and pressure.

[Hillary]

Igneous.

[Randall Williams]

Igneous is the volume. That's what you were thinking of, Fudge. Question eight comes to us in the category of high cinema. What 1972 feature film I Was doing.

[Hillary]

That the Other Night follows that.

[Randall Williams]

What 1972 feature film follows the horrific misadventures of four Atlanta businessmen who decide to canoe down the fictional Kahoolawassee river before it is damned. What 1972 feature film follows the horrific misadventures of four Atlanta businessmen who decide to canoe down the fictional Kahoolawassee river before it is dammed. Roman's writing an answer. Hillary's writing an answer. Cal started writing an answer really aggressively. And then I looked over, and he's just got his eyes closed because I Had.

[Hillary]

I was like, oh, is this. And then when I went to put it on the thing, I just lost it. My brain just totally went away. I can name the actors. I can tell you the entire movie.

[Spencer]

Oh, wow.

[Unknown Guest]

Is there a remake?

[Hillary]

God almighty. No, I don't think there is.

[Randall Williams]

I don't think so.

[Hillary]

Nobody's been bold enough.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Yeah. What? 1972 feature film this is so Stupid follows the horrific misadventures of four Atlanta businessmen who decide to canoe down the fictional Kahoolawassee river before it is damned.

[Spencer]

You know the slogan?

[Hillary]

I don't think so. I wrote the only movie I can think of that is river related.

[Phil (Engineer)]

I see what Cal's writing on his whiteboard and he's.

[Randall Williams]

He's getting there.

[Hillary]

This is so bad.

[Randall Williams]

I could offer a hint, but.

[Logan]

No, no hint.

[Hillary]

No, don't do it.

[Phil (Engineer)]

No.

[Randall Williams]

I think it'd be too obvious if I gave a hint. Cal's crossing out an answer. And he's written another answer. How you feeling? Did you get it?

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Come back. We ready to flip over the boards?

[Hillary]

I spelled it wrong, but you'll get it.

[Randall Williams]

Roman says without a paddle.

[Hillary]

That's what I said.

[Randall Williams]

Hillary Blank. Spencer Blank. Logan blank. I'm sorry. Logan without a paddle. Nate river rapid. Cal says Deliverance. The correct answer is Deliverance. Burt Reynolds stars as an avid. An avid outdoorsman and survivalist who leads a group of city slickers through the remote Georgia wilderness. Along the way, they are tested by the natural elements and hostile locals. Every now and then I consider doing a special 60 Minute Movie Club episode on the film, but I don't think it would be good for our company. Has everybody seen Deliverance at least?

[Logan]

I haven't seen it.

[Spencer]

No.

[Phil (Engineer)]

You didn't mention that Cal originally wrote down banjo music.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, banjo music. Well, then, do you like banjos?

[Spencer]

I recognize that.

[Randall Williams]

Squeal like a piggy.

[Hillary]

Yeah, I blanked on everything.

[Randall Williams]

Ned Beatty, Jon Voight, Bert Russell.

[Logan]

Nope.

[Spencer]

You're saying a lot of words I don't know.

[Logan]

Nope.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, have you seen Without a Pal Randall? Yes.

[Spencer]

Former trivia.

[Randall Williams]

It was a former trivia.

[Hillary]

This is back when Burt Reynolds was like, on like, Playgirl magazine.

[Randall Williams]

He's got this crazy, like, life jacket survival suit that just looks like space armor. He shoots a compound bow.

[Hillary]

It's like the top. You know what a Farmer John. Yeah, yeah. Neoprene wetsuit looks like where it's.

[Logan]

Yeah, it's like. Like a tank top.

[Hillary]

Tank top.

[Randall Williams]

Somebody falls on an arrow, it's right up our alley, gang. But it's also really, really disturbing.

[Spencer]

The swimsuit in Borat. Is that making fun? No, that's not making fun of it. What movie is that making fun of? I forget.

[Brady]

I don't know.

[Spencer]

I feel like it's Burt Reynolds wearing that. Nevermind.

[Randall Williams]

No, don't worry about it. Burt Reynolds could pull that one off. Phil, we've got two questions left in our game of trivia. Oh, how's the scoreboard?

[Hillary]

Now?

[Phil (Engineer)]

If only Sydney were here to help us out. Got Hillary has one point now on the board. Roman and Logan are tied up with two. Spencer and Nate have three. And Ryan Callahan still in first place by a mere one point. He has four.

[Randall Williams]

Good thing he came up with Deliverance. I'm shocked. Guys take for granted that people like watching really disturbing movies on the question nine. I suppose. Anyway, this comes in the category of.

[Hillary]

I am the oldest person in the room.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I just feel like Deliverance is such a classic cultural reference.

[Hillary]

Well, time to bud, I guess.

[Randall Williams]

What? The question nine comes in the category of fishing. What is the five letter term for the membrane or sac that hold together the eggs of fish like salmon and steelhead?

[Hillary]

It's a term. That's a word.

[Randall Williams]

A word.

[Hillary]

Randall wrote all these questions like, yeah, everyone's gonna know these.

[Logan]

I know.

[Spencer]

Is Sydney gonna answer if you have to call her and figure out what her answer is in overtime?

[Randall Williams]

Oh, you know, I could text her. I'll just text her the question without any.

[Spencer]

She's gonna Google it, but that's okay.

[Randall Williams]

Hopefully she doesn't.

[Hillary]

I don't know how to spell this either.

[Randall Williams]

What is the five letter term for the membrane or sac that hold together the eggs of fish like steelhead and salmon? God, I thought I was getting better at this hosting thing, but this is going very.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Randall, you're doing great. Don't blame yourself.

[Randall Williams]

Thanks, Phil. I think, folks, this is a fun episode and there's going to be a lot of people I think that will. How did they not know Deliverance?

[Phil (Engineer)]

I'm right there with you.

[Randall Williams]

It's like Jaws.

[Spencer]

That'll make you feel better. Yeah, everyone should comment then. How the hell did they not know.

[Hillary]

That it's a horrible spelling.

[Randall Williams]

What? Sorry for the dead air. I'm texting my wife a question.

[Spencer]

Is she gonna have any idea asking.

[Phil (Engineer)]

That question for the.

[Randall Williams]

I'll do it later. I'll do it later. If we need to go to overtime. Cal still got a one point lead, but boy, everybody's in it except for Hillary because so few of these questions have been answered correctly.

[Phil (Engineer)]

You always have. You know, whenever I feel bad about, you know, a performance behind the microphone. Not that I get a lot of opportunities. Yeah, Yanni's Yanni's first game that he hosted. Maybe second.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, that was the worst.

[Phil (Engineer)]

I mean, wasn't the highest. Was it like a three?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, it was tough.

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Does anybody feel confident about their answer?

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Logan]

No.

[Spencer]

No. Cal might win it here, I think.

[Hillary]

Spencer, you gotta feel confident.

[Randall Williams]

Are we ready to turn him over?

[Spencer]

Don't have it.

[Randall Williams]

Roman, see what you got there, buddy. Creativity. The baggie. Hillary's blank. Spencer says paper. Logan says nothing. He crossed out an eight letter word. Nate says scrote. Cal says skein. Correct answer is skein.

[Logan]

Wow.

[Hillary]

How do you spell it?

[Randall Williams]

S K, E, I, N, O. Shit.

[Spencer]

Got it.

[Hillary]

All right.

[Spencer]

Double point.

[Randall Williams]

Skein of eggs refers to the clustered mass of eggs produced by some fish species, particularly salmon and other anadromous fish, that resemble a loose intertwined bundle. The sticky membrane connecting these eggs helps keep them together during deposition in gravel stream beds. Hmm? Nothing.

[Spencer]

I'm not a cold water guy. I'm a warm water guy.

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[Randall Williams]

Before we move on to our final question, here's a quick recap of our answers so far. Question 1. Norovirus. Question 2. Tungsten lead, bismuth and steel. Question 3. Pleistocene. Question 4.

[Hillary]

3.

[Randall Williams]

Question 5. Bunch grass or tussock? Question 6. Flathead. Question 7. Igneous metamorphic sedimentary. Question 8. Deliverance. Question 9. Skein. Now, Phil, do we have a change in the scoreboard or are we still playing here?

[Phil (Engineer)]

The game is effectively over because Ryan Callahan has two points in the lead and cannot lose.

[Randall Williams]

Why don't we throw out a lame duck here and I'll tell Sydney she doesn't need to tell me what. What percentage of drowning victims weren't wearing life jackets? Our listener question of the week comes from Luke Billingsley. For submitting this great question, Luke will receive a signed board game from the crew. If you have a great idea for a trivia question, email trivia.com is that the correct Script.

[Spencer]

That's right.

[Randall Williams]

I did that from memory. I forgot to add it here.

[Hillary]

Oh.

[Randall Williams]

Somebody'S not screwing it up today.

[Hillary]

Randall was just looking at Spencer the entire time.

[Randall Williams]

Billingsley. I was looking for affirmations on a compass. North, south, east, and west are referred to as cardinal directions. What is the term for the halfway points between each cardinal direction? For example, southwest, southeast, northwest, or northeast.

[Logan]

Two ways to go about this.

[Randall Williams]

We shouldn't have asked this question. Just another complete flop. Oh, God.

[Hillary]

Seems like a real waste to name that Randall.

[Phil (Engineer)]

When I was putting these questions into the slideshow for the game today, I. When I read this question, I. I thought, wow, I learned something today, and I'm a better person for it.

[Spencer]

Here we go.

[Randall Williams]

So that's the best thing anybody could have said to me right now, other than, I mean, you can go home. Is it bird related or is it bird related? I thought about asking. I literally googled quotes from people about how dumb birds are. And I was trying to find someone in the meat eater universe who had said something bad about birds just to play on that theme. I thought that would delight some people, but I failed in that, too.

[Hillary]

I watched six Miles, Got One Pheasant on Sunday, and I love that bird. Just bird again, Luke.

[Randall Williams]

Billingsley. It's a great question. On a compass, north, south, east, and west are referred to as cardinal directions. What is the term for the halfway points between each cardinal direction? For example, southwest, southeast, northwest, northeast.

[Unknown Guest]

I feel like I learned this in middle school.

[Randall Williams]

You remembered the rock thing. Why couldn't you do this one, too? You haven't used the rock thing once.

[Phil (Engineer)]

You should be honest.

[Spencer]

Often instead of apologizing, Randall, you should just get mad at us.

[Hillary]

I showed up today.

[Randall Williams]

We'll do another. We'll do another episode of this, huh? Actually, Phil, we could just do the whole thing over because we did that change in the slide where you cut out the unnecessary s. That would be really fun.

[Hillary]

And to just do this episode over right now and see how many of us can remember all of them.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, and then you can really put people questions wrong. That'd be the best way to do it. Do we have answers? If we're gonna get answers? I mean, I know this is all just a futile exercise, and we're sort of putting on this charade for the listeners who are playing at home if their games haven't already been ruined by my questions.

[Spencer]

I am interested in the life jacket drowning percentage. I wrote down my answer for that as well.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah, there's probably a lot of listeners Playing along with their friends who are at 0 or 1 and need a tiebreaker. We're wearing a life jacket or we're not wearing a life jacket? We're not wearing a life jacket. Are you asking about the question we're doing or the question that I read earlier that we're going to do later on A compass? North, southeast. Do we have our answers to this question? I'll give you. I can give you a hint. Actually, I can't really give you a hint. It's tough to give a hint for this one.

[Hillary]

This is so bad. So bad.

[Randall Williams]

But I don't want you talking about your memory.

[Hillary]

Not my place on the host. I don't think it's the host problem.

[Randall Williams]

This is so bad. It's so bad.

[Hillary]

Can't make chicken soup.

[Randall Williams]

If you've got a perfect game on today's episode of Trivia, email [e-mail] let's hang out. And yeah, I'd like to know you, Randall.

[Hillary]

Best person at Meat Eater until that episode.

[Randall Williams]

All right, gang, let's flip him over. Roman says raven. Hillary says medial. Spencer says eagle. That's good. Logan says tertiary. Nate says bishop. I like that. I thought quite a bit about that joke. Cal has nothing. Sydney said papal.

[Logan]

Yeah, I was going one of two ways.

[Randall Williams]

The correct answer is ordinal. Ordinal directions are the points that fall between the four cardinal directions on a compass rose. East, northeast or west northwest are secondary intercardinal directions that provide even more precise navigational references. Points on a 16 point compass rose, Ordinal, cardinal, intercardinal, secondary intercardinal. It's easy to remember. You just think C O, S, I C, Cossack, C O, S I, C. Should be pretty straightforward. Well, embarrassed if you're playing along at home. Let's hit this tiebreaker.

[Phil (Engineer)]

All right. Do you want the drop? Let's play the drop.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, let's do it for the listeners.

[Hillary]

Oh.

[Randall Williams]

I'll read it store.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Oh, you want me to put it on the screen, Randall?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, here we go. Tiebreaker. According to a 2024 U.S. coast Guard report, what percentage of drowning victims in recreational boating instance were not wearing a personal flotation device? And don't go to a decimal, just go to a round number. According to a 2024 U.S. coast Guard report, what percentage of drowning victims in recreational boating incidents were not wearing a personal flotation device? You play along.

[Hillary]

You should just go full, like SNL Trebek here and be like. Or you just write down a number, any number. And I'd Be proud of you.

[Randall Williams]

I'll give you a hint. It's not higher than a hundred. I think there. I think there are a lot of purists that are going to hate this episode.

[Spencer]

Sure.

[Randall Williams]

I think there's a lot of anarchists. Yeah, there's. There's a lot of sort of iconoclasts and randoms. Random. That are gonna love the chaotic nature of this episode.

[Spencer]

We'll put this one on the Outdoor Channel, though.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, I think.

[Spencer]

I think we'll skip this one.

[Hillary]

Are you serious?

[Randall Williams]

I didn't say anything.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Spencer kicked mine off the Outdoor Channel. I don't know. I don't know why.

[Randall Williams]

Okay, we all have answers. Write anything down to our superlative, superfluous tiebreaker. Roman says 77. Hillary says 100. Spencer says 94. Logan says 90. Nate says 88. Cal says 74. If you could tell by the intonation in my voice, Nate's real darn close. 87. 87.

[Hillary]

We still didn't get it.

[Randall Williams]

Wear your life jacket.

[Spencer]

I imagine that other 13, like, got a concussion or something.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

Or like.

[Hillary]

Well, I think slipped out through the alcohol factor. And a lot of this stuff's pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then you're kind of splitting hairs, getting caught in.

[Randall Williams]

As you know from several minutes ago, today's winner, chopped up is Ryan Old Cal Callahan.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Where will he.

[Randall Williams]

To which worthy cause would you like to donate your $500 winning?

[Spencer]

There's so many conservation groups out there.

[Randall Williams]

But only one would be a true conflict of interest and self dealing.

[Hillary]

I know we have a super awesome person who's currently working the phones that got a master's degree and a bachelor's degree in conservation related things in four years at the University of Montana. Deer Lodge native. Not the penitentiary, but actually the. The school.

[Brady]

Good.

[Hillary]

That I would like to get off of the customer service end of things at BHA. So I'm going to donate 500 to.

[Spencer]

Oh, wow.

[Randall Williams]

This person.

[Hillary]

That. That position.

[Logan]

Oh, okay.

[Spencer]

There we go. Yeah, I like that.

[Randall Williams]

So you are donating it to bha.

[Hillary]

I am. Okay.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

I won't make more of that than.

[Spencer]

I always like when someone explains why they're donating to a place that's the most specific example we've ever gotten. Yeah, that's good.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that's great. That's great.

[Hillary]

Just the future of conservation who just wants to be working on good stuff and. Yeah, working. She's the face of bha. Maisie working the phones.

[Randall Williams]

Well, congrats, Cal. On. I assume what might be one of your final appearances as a as a Meat Eater Crew contestant and not a guest contestant.

[Hillary]

Is that because I've just won so much in my last two or three appearances?

[Randall Williams]

No, I just figure he'll be gone a lot coming up. Yeah, it's November. I wanted to do that in a special way, but now I think we just pull the plug on this.

[Hillary]

No. I've never been so embarrassed to win.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. Pika, Folks. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Promise to do better next time.

[Spencer]

Cal.

[Randall Williams]

Congratulations, Nate. You did great on that tiebreaker. That didn't get you anything. And have a good day. Yes. Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

[Hillary]

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