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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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It's a me podcast.
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Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host Spencer Newharth and today we're joined by Giannis Randall, Seth Reeva Hansi and Doug Durin. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eater's four verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. And there is a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the Conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now here's a stat for you, Doug. You have made more guest appearances than anyone else in meteater trivia history. So welcome back.
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Congrats, Doug.
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But that it's not like it's that many.
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Well yeah, this is your third or fourth time I think on the show.
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Really? Yeah. All I know is I suck at it.
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So you play trivia way back in the old Studio. Studio 1.0. I remember you and Heff Finger were there too.
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That's right. It was really hot in there.
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Yeah, this room does the same thing.
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Jim had all the answers and for.
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Those that don't know, Doug is sings and composed the theme music for this year show.
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Oh, and the last time I was here I added a verse at the end that I am proud to say is getting played at the end.
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That's right.
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With complete with Randall's guffaw when I said he likes to kill those two and three year old bucks.
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So that doesn't sound like me.
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Doug was in Studio 1.0. He's now played in 2.0. We got a 3.0 that's being worked on. We'll have you back.
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Are we allowed to talk about that?
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Yeah, we are.
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Yeah, we did. If we talk about it then it has to happen.
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I don't know. Grand reveals are fun.
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We're going to talk about it all the time.
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Steve. Steve did his height. Steve did call me yesterday trying to drastically change the plans if you want to know how it's going. After hours.
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Yeah.
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Now Doug has some news to share about sharing the land. Doug, what do you have for us?
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So three years ago, four years ago, a couple of friends of mine and I started experimenting with an idea. Tried to prove this concept that was built off of Elder Leopold's ride the game cooperative in that Leopold and some buddies did conservation work on a farmer's property in exchange for access to that property and the conservation work they did is much of it is still there. It's really kind of a cool place to go and visit it's called the Riley Game Cooperative. About the same time I met Steve Rinella, I was doing a bicycle trip out in that area, saw the sign and it inspired me to eventually come up with this idea, just really stealing Leopold's idea to start a private land access initiative. That's as old as time, right, that you trade work for access. But what we try to do is expand it to be mostly about conservation and making a contribution to conservation somewhere. And I'm proud to say that in our third year, we just became, or beginning of our fourth year now, a non profit. And we have 53 properties in 15 states. And as you might imagine, we have a lot of demand and not as much supply. So we're always looking for landowners and that's the mission now. So we became a non profit organization and as such, I would just like you all to keep that in mind.
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Yeah, twist some arms, Doug.
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Subtle, Doug, subtle.
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I'd like to, I'd like to think that I would win, but also having not done very well at this. So I'm just putting it all in your heads that sharing land would be a, a worthy. Worthy.
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What would you do with 500 if, if somebody won today and gave that money to sharing the land?
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Well, we have some, we have some website development that needs to be done. That's a place where we're going to be putting some things. But the other part is, as I said, we're trying to recruit more landowners, especially in states where we have a lot of access. So traveling to those, it'll help us to pay like entry fees to get into, you know, like a landowner gathering or a trade show or something.
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Sure, yeah. I've seen polling before that access to places to hunt and fish is the number one limiting factor for folks. So a worthy cause that you're doing there, Doug, see if we can get some money over there today. What's happening on the Duran farm these days? Give us an update.
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Wow. Well, speaking of projects, that. On the, on the. That some of my access seekers are helping with this. Helping us with. Like Giannis, I'm doing a savannah restoration on our project which we're creating more grassland, which is great for turkeys. As I was telling south earlier, you know, the white tailed deer don't really seem to need any help from us at all. I'm interested in the grasslands. I know Yanni just can't stand it when I say that, but I like grassland birds, I like grassland species, I like diversity. And so we're restoring native habitats and it's Been really fun to have people there helping us with it who are learning about it and making that kind of contribution.
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No calving these days, though.
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Those days. I don't cattle anymore.
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Would you normally be, like, in the center of calving season right now?
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When we. When I had cattle, I would wait until March, April.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So you don't miss it?
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You know, I miss having cattle in the summer because they look so nice out there, but I don't miss them in the winter when you got to go out there when it's freezing cold and deal with them.
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Given your. Your headwear today, there's. It's ripe for a joke.
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All hat, no cattle.
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That is good. What are you doing at Meat Eater HQ this week?
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I'm sorry?
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What are you doing at Meat Eater hq? How do we get you in Bozeman?
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Well, today I worked with Giannis and the crew on a Meat Eater roasts that Seth and Chris Gill were involved with, and it was great fun. Yesterday I was on Steve's podcast, and I didn't really contribute much. It was this screw or an screw worm expert, and I just kind of felt like I was the dumb guy in the corner saying things like, that's interesting.
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You should do that today for us as well. Whenever we reveal an answer, I'm hoping.
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I can get a couple right. I'm just hoping I can beat the Shelby Index.
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There you go.
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And then tomorrow, we're doing another roast.
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Wow.
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That's right.
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We're putting Doug through the car wash. Great fun. Meat Eater HQ are we have some housekeeping to get to before we play trivia. The fourth annual Meat Eater Trivia Tournament returns next week. Steve Brody, Randall, and Giannis will be competing for the title of Meat Eater Trivia Champion. The tournament will be 30 questions across three episodes. Doug, give us a prediction for who will win the whole thing. Steve, Brody, Randall, Giannis.
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I'm torn between Brody and. And Randall.
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Okay, I like that.
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I'd say it's a toss up there.
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All right. No Steve, though.
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No, that's where the show is. Steve's just gonna, you know, he's gonna try to bend. He'll bend answers to him. Yes, he will. And I. I like that you stand strong against that. Giannis, on the other hand, I think, is the dark horse thing.
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Okay. Very dark.
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He's been hot lately.
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See how he does today.
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All right, the Shelby index for today is a four, so our winner should get eight correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the Drop. Phil. Look, I need to know what I stand to win.
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Everything.
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How's that?
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You stand to win everything.
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Game on, suckers. Question 1. The topic is public lands, and this will be multiple choice. Angels Landing is the most famous hike in this national park. Is it Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, or Zion? And Doug, the question is on the screen behind you there. If you'd rather see it than hear it. Angel's Landing is the most famous hike in this national park. Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, or Zion. Randall didn't even need choices there. He had his answer locked in.
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Man, I'm second guessing myself.
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Okay, It's a good question.
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I like the question.
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Thank you.
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Yanni, did you come up with it?
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I came up with that Angel's Landing is the most famous hike in this national park. Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, Zion.
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I've got it narrowed down to two.
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Okay. Looks like Randall is the only one who knew the answer. Hansi, do you like your answer?
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Hansi's got it.
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I think I've got it. Okay. Did you know this one? Without the choices, I had to run through some similar area. You'd have gotten there.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Angel's Landing, the most famous hike in this park. Your four choices. Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, Zion.
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Have you been there, Spencer?
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We could talk about it afterwards. Giannis, do you have your answer?
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No. Do I need to have one already?
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I think we're waiting on you. Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, Zion. It's gotta narrow down to two.
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Oh, gosh. It's so hard when you don't actually know it Better pick one. I feel like it's easy when you don't know it.
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There's two types of people. Seth.
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Giannis, go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says the Grand Canyon. Giannis, Grand Canyon. Randall and Hansi and Reva and Doug say Zion. They got it. The correct answer. Zion National Park.
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You want to know a secret to my success?
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Yeah.
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What is it?
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If you don't know the answer letter C or the third choice?
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Oh, well, that was the fourth choice, so. You didn't even listen.
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That's the route I took.
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Angel's landing is a 5.4 mile round trip hike that gains about 1500ft feet in elevation. It's so popular that you're required to enter a lottery to draw a permit to do the hike. It's one of the deadliest trails in the national park system with 13 deaths on the hike since the year 2004. Most occurred during the last half mile, where hikers hold on to a metal chain as they follow a knife edge ridge. I have been to Zion National Park. I haven't done this hike. I would say Zion is one of the most overrated parks because to see most of it, you have to get on a shuttle. And that's where I draw the line for seeing a national park. It's like, feels like an amusement. It's over, way over.
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Like, it's one of the places that has been destroyed by the Instagram age.
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Yeah, there are like flagship national parks. I would say all four of them. In your choices, there were part of the flagship parks and Zion is one of them. You got to be willing to, like, get on a shuttle bus and just be shoulder to shoulder with people. Not an experience that I wanted to do. So I did not do this hike. It's cool if you're a climber. What's the question? I might have the word wrong.
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No, you're right.
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Verrata.
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Is that the right?
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Via Ferra.
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Via Ferrata.
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It's close.
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The Iron Way.
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It's mostly like, not.
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No.
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Like cables or anything like that. Angel's Landing. Last half mile, though, you can hold onto that chain and that's where 13 people have falled and died. Question two. The topic is fishing. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Murphy Shaw for sending this great question. Murphy is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win our listener question of the week, then send your question to triviater.com the topic is fishing. Bass Pro says this contraption, which helps your boat on which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like, quote, a huge ice cream cone with the small end cutout. Randall, the only player to answer so far, Bass Pro says this contraption, which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like, quote, a huge ice cream cone with the small end cutout. This could be a zero percenter.
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Gosh, I know it. I know I've used them, but I don't know if I know the name of the contraption.
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You can picture it. You've touched one. Maybe Seth now has his answer. Seth, you have this, right?
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I mean, I know what it is, but I don't know what the technical term is.
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Do you have one of these in your boat right now?
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No.
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No. Bass Pro says this contraption which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like a huge ice cream cone with the small end cut out.
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It's a Good question.
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Good question. But we may stump all six players.
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I have two options that I'm.
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Contraption which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like a huge ice cream cone with the small end cut out. Seth, did you look at Yanni's answer?
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I did.
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Do you agree with him?
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It's not what I have down.
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Okay.
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But he might be right because I don't like.
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Do you like what he has?
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Oh, boy.
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Or do you like yours better?
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I don't think it's a bad answer, what he has written down.
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Okay. Seth prefers his answer, I feel.
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Yeah.
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Not going to say anything.
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Randall, do you like your answer?
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Sort of.
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Okay. Doug, do you have this one right?
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I have an answer.
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Okay. This might be one of those. That's interesting.
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Well, you know, trying to. Since C wasn't an option this time.
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Bass Pro says this contraption which helps position your boat on windy days looks like a huge ice cream cone with small end cut out. Is everybody ready?
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Yeah.
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Giannis.
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Come on, Yannis.
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He's changing his answer that Seth didn't like.
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Yeah. I'm just gonna choose one of the two that I have.
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Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says drift bag. Giannis says wind anchor. Randall says drift anchor. Hansi says wind anchor. Reva says airstream flag thing. And Doug says cone drag. The correct answer is drift sock or drift anchor. Now, Randall is the only one, I think, who had the answers that I revealed. Giannis, what did you say?
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Wind anchor.
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I don't think we're going to give you that. Seth, what did you have?
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Drift bag.
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Drift bag. That one is closer.
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Google it.
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I will google drift bag and see what that comes up.
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What about cone drag? Why don't you Google cone drag?
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We're not going to give you.
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Come on, what's the actual.
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Well, I think we'll give you drift bag because I'm seeing results here that call them drift socks or trolling bags. So I think we'll give you drift.
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But nothing about wind anchor.
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Wind anchors, wind anchor. You know what? I'll Google that as well.
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Wait a minute.
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What would you like, Doug?
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I had half of it, right. Drag.
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So coned drag, wind anchor. I'm not getting anything at all besides things for tents, it looks like. So we'll give it to Seth. One of the two words he snuck in there. Randall had both.
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Not a good start re looking for.
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I wanted to say wind anchor, but since wind was in the question, I. That's what tipped my hand.
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A drip sock can be used with a trolling motor or on its own. Its purpose is to slow down your boat from moving too fast with the current or wind. Drift socks are parachute shaped and attached to your boat with a harness. They are especially popular among walleye, bass and catfish anglers.
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They were.
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Now why in the world would you know that, Randall? Or did you just put that together in your brilliant mind?
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No, I. I mean, I know what it is. And that for whatever reason, that's the name that came to me. I knew it was a type of anchor, drip sock, wind or drift anchor. And then because there's wind in the question, I'm always skeptical of repeating a word from the question.
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Seth, why don't you think they're popular anymore? Because of spot lock. So folks don't need it.
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Yeah, new, new technology with trolling motors and stuff no one uses. I've never seen anyone use them.
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Oh, I've been using them my whole life.
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Really.
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I haven't had a spot lock on my boats.
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If Spencer had written on breezy days, I would have gone with wind anchor, I think.
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So tell me what a spot lock is.
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So most trolling motors these days have a thing called spot lock where you get to the spot and you hit and you hit a button and it anchors you there based off a gps. So it'll. The trolling motor will move to keep you in one. In one spot.
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Yeah.
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And it'll adjust so if the wind goes from 5 mile an hour to 20 mile per hour.
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Yeah.
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Recognize that and keep you there.
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Yeah.
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How do we spell this?
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This falcon is the world's fastest animal. This is question three. Doug, you have this one, right?
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I think I do. I'm confident, but I also often have false confidence.
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In life.
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When Seth questioned how to spell it, did that help you? You think? Do you then be like, oh, okay, yeah. Okay.
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Should there be two Fs or four?
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This falcon is the world's fastest animal. Hansi, do you have this one right? I don't know. I'm not. I'm not super confident.
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Did you ever ski Beaver Creek Hanzi?
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Yeah, I skied the downhill. I don't know the super G, actually, not the downhill.
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Oh, when in your racing days?
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Yeah.
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You know, Jennifer used to groom that scary soccer.
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It's. It's wild when we showed up to, like, just because you slipped the course, you know, there was the starting ref, and, like, the course workers were. The two were roped up and in crampons next to the starting gate, which is, like, really intimidating to begin with. But then one of the coaches went out, and of course, the coaches don't sharpen their skis. And he fell and slid for, like, half a mile.
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Oh, yeah.
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And it was like, I'm surprised that.
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You could even slip that upper section.
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Well, I mean, you just turn him sideways and go. I mean, slipping is.
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Yeah, use your edges, man.
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The reason you're. The reason this came up is because that whole area of Beaver Creek is all named after birds of prey. And that course is the Birds of Prey downhill course. Oh, good.
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Tie in.
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And all of the runs around it are all named after different birds of prey. One of them.
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Do you recall this one?
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Yes, it is. I recall the name, but I'm trying to right now figure out which exact run it was. They had a cool thing called the Talons Challenge, and it was a great event where you would ski, and they were all bump runs and long bump runs, like multiple thousand feet bump runs. And you had to ski every single run. At the end of it, you got, like, a beer and a hot dog.
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Okay.
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And the hat said talents Challenge finisher.
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See if that mountain helped Yanni get this one right. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says paracord falcon, says Peregrine Randall.
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I'm not embarrassed.
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Riva says the Flash. Doug. Peregrine falcon. They got it. It's a peregrine falcon. Peregrine falcons are found across the globe from Alaska to Africa to Australia. These birds can reach 60 miles per hour during normal flight and 240 miles per hour during a hunting dive. Their quickness is thanks to the perfect aerodynamic design and specialized respiratory system which allows them to breathe at speeds that would rupt the air sack of most birds.
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Does anybody know what that little hawk or falcon is that lives around our office building that was eating that pigeon the other day?
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Little kestrel. They're like the babiest of the.
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I heard the owl.
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Oh yeah, got killed.
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It was dead in the tree out.
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Back and they told me that it got killed.
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What happened?
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I don't know.
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Nobody did a necropsy on it.
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No.
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FWP came and got it. Oh, they did?
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Yeah, that. They lived outside my office window for like two weeks.
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It was really a great baby.
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What kind of owl was it?
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I think it was great horned out.
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Yeah, one of my chickens got killed too. No, this is the first mystery killing.
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Okay.
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One by Cal's dog, one by my own hand, and then this third one we don't know.
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But who were the suspects?
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Well, I don't know. It was chewed up. It was.
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It was eaten.
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Yeah.
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And the top suspect always has to be a spouse. So your wife is on the list?
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No, she was. She was horrified by this. Oh. She said there were.
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Could be an ass.
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Good cover.
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She said there were vultures in the air.
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And.
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And she googled whether vultures will actually kill a chicken versus just scavenging on it. And apparently they're known to do that. I can't attest to the kill chickens.
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Claims, but that would shock me.
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That's what the Internet told her.
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And.
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And I have nothing else to go on. Spencer.
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Okay.
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Cats.
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What was eaten on it? Like was the head eaten off of.
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It or from the. The guts? Basically from like the ribs back to the uni hole.
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Okay. I'm thinking. Sydney.
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Do you ever get emails that there's a convincing in inner. What's the word? Interstitial.
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Just banter. No, I think, I think folks, it would be the other way. They would rather us have like a 45 minute episode than a 32 minute episode.
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There's no one that just is coming Here, just for the trivia.
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I mean, probably are, but they don't write in. I don't think they're too annoyed yet. Question four. The topic is.
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Well, we're only on the question four.
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They're about to be.
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This home improvement store where customers quote, save big money sells kits that allow you to build your own 4x8 or 6x6 hunting blind. Save big money is in quotation.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. The jingle just went off in my head.
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The way they write it is that big is all capital letters. This home improvement store where customers save big money sells kits that allow you to build your own 4 by 8 or 6 by 6 hunting blocks.
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My dad's a fan. It depends on where you're from.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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It's a very regional.
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Doug is confident. Reva very confident. What is the extent of these, like, the footprint of these stores? Anybody?
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No.
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Oh, well, I may give it away if I say. But I do look ahead of time because I don't want to make a question that's just like, you know, in two states or something like that. This one has a bigger footprint than that.
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Okay.
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This home improvement store where customers save big money sells kits that allow you to build your own 4x8 or 6x6 hunting blind. This may be a 6 for 6 question. Is everybody ready?
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I don't know.
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Go ahead and reveal your answer. Seth says Fleet Farm, Giannis and Randall and Hansi and Riva and Doug say Menards. They got it. The correct answer is Menards.
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Never heard that.
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And they stretch from Wyoming to West Virginia stores and then obviously going further south and north.
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I think they started in Minnesota and Wisconsin.
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Started in Wisconsin. That's right. The 4x8 ground blind kit cost $900, while the 6x6 elevated blind kit costs $1,000. Hailing from Wisconsin, Menards is best known for their mail in rebates and catchy jingle. Phil, please play that sweet B. I.
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Think you just sold some hunt blinds.
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Plumbing, electric, electrical appliances, too. Haven't heard this part before. So hard to resist singing along.
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Well, it's hard to resist a banjo.
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Was this something that you heard, like, when you're growing up?
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Well, I. I grew up in menards country, and some of my first tree stands I bought were from Menards because they sold a $35 tree stand and it was a $35. So I was familiar that they had a hunting section. They didn't sell these ground blind kits where I live. Not that I would have bought one, but I'm I'm familiar with Menards and their outdoor offerings.
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I just remember when we were. When I was in college in Chicago, just sitting on the couch late at night, having a few cold ones, and the Menards jingle would come on and we'd all just sing it as impassioned. Like the most impassioned.
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Was that the entire jingle? Because all I remember is, like, at the tail end of a commercial. Save big money. Yeah.
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And did they say today at the end of that? I don't remember.
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I mean, all I remember, they also had a holiday.
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That's the Z600 empire today. Oh, yeah.
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Phil is showing us photos of these ground blinds. So that's the six by six one, and that one's $900. And then there's the elevated one, the four by eight. That's $1,000. It's pretty nice. There are not insulated. No windows.
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Yeah. So there are countless people building them now. And actually one of my. One of Sharing Land sponsors is a blind company also. Okay.
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So you've got a few permanent blinds on the farm.
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Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we. We have a big one that Cal came and hunted and I. It's a. It's a really beautiful blind.04 outdoors. The nicest blind I've ever had. And Kelly had this rifle that I was given, and I didn't know what I was going to do with. He said, I'll tell you what you do with that rifle, Douglas. You take it up there. You put that in that office of yours. Because I have two office chairs in it. I mean, it is a ridiculous place to go hunting, but it's a good spot. There you go.
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No Menard specials on the farm, though. Question 5. The topic is conservation. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines blank habitat as, quote, the transitional zone between two habitats, like where grassland meets forest. Seth and Randall already have their answers.
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Johnny's texting.
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Okay. Doug is joining them. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines blank habitat as the transitional zone between two habitats. Like where grassland meets forest.
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Boy, do I have some flavor. Text.
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Okay. Have you made this type of habitat on.
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Yes.
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Your farm. Okay. Riva, who knew Menards because she grew up in Menards country, does not have this one. Doug, he grew up in Menards country. Seth, you're not. You weren't in Menards?
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No. No. I'd never heard that jingle before. I don't think I've ever heard the jingle. No.
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Well, welcome.
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I don't think I've ever been into Menards.
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Okay. Wow.
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So you said farming fleet, and there's another one called Fleet Farm.
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I said Fleet Farm, and then there's.
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A Fleet Farm, the other one.
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That's the way. The way you lit up.
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Right.
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Made me think it might have been Fleet Farm, because that's your. That's in your neck of the woods, right? Yeah.
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But you save. Oh, my gosh. Now I've got the jingles mixed up. Find that, you find value at farm inflation.
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There's Mills, Fleet Farm. There's Blair.
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I don't know whether or not to save big money or find value.
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Tough choice.
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That's good.
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Phil Randall, you grew up in Menards country?
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No, I. I don't think I'd ever heard of Menards until I went to. Until I was living in Chicago.
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I bet Ohio has like a dozen.
D
They might have, but that might have been encroachment. It might have been encroachment since I left there in the early 2000s.
C
I don't. I don't know that Pennsylvania has one.
A
I don't think they do. I was looking at the map. They were awful close to the Pennsylvania border. West Virginia had a few. All right, again, we're on question five. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines blank habitat as the transitional zone between two habitats, like where grassland meets forest. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Yanni and Randall and Hansi say edge. Riva says ideal. Doug.
B
Not wrong.
A
I know the correct answer is edge habitat or ecotone. Edge habitat is so important because these areas contain a greater abundance and greater diversity of wildlife. This is true for most animals, from big game to insects. El Leopold was one of the first to notice this Trend, writing in 1933 that quote, the variety and density of life is often the greatest along edges. Doug, give me some examples of edge habitat.
B
On the Durin farm, we do some what's called feather edge work, where we will go along the edge of a field where it's transitioning from the field or the CRP into the woods. And rather, when we. When we farmed it, you kept those edges rolled so it was like an L. And what you're trying to do is create a more of a. The long side of a triangle, a slope. And so you go in and cut, you know, like elm or ironwood, and just drop it into the edge of the field and. And then allow the brush and whatnot to come up in there, and that's it. We have a lot of that actually around the edges of the field.
A
When I was writing this question last night and then researching it, the feather edge that you talked about there, where you trim, you know, like, thin out some of the forests. That was the textbook example of the best, you know, edge habitat work you can do. Yanni, is that what you got going on in your place?
C
Yeah, I don't have, like, our place is all woods. Yeah. So you really got to take out some woods if you want to make edge habitat. But Craig Harper, who's probably my favorite, I guess, ecologist is maybe so what you'd call him. I highly recommend anybody looking to get into, you know, management to read Craig's stuff. But he makes the point. I think it's a great point. It really changed how I looked at habitat in general. And edge habitat is he's like, look, the only reason it's like edge habitat is because you have two different habitats that come together. And then you're saying, oh, well, I really like the habitat where they come together. You can have that same type of habitat over a greater area. It doesn't just have to be that one edge, if that makes sense. And it's really all about controlling sunlight. And so, you know, the quail or the rabbit or whatever that live along that edge, they don't want to be out in the middle of the field. Maybe it's. The grass is too thick. There's not enough, you know, cover from avian predators. And then if you go into the woods, there's no grass. There's nothing, you know, at ground level because it's just open canopy up above. And so he really challenges, I think, people to look at it to, like, hey, take edge habitat, but make edge habitat. Just be everywhere. Make that be your main habitat instead of just having it along the edges.
B
So, like, with the work that you're doing, you're creating pockets within your wooded land. Right. They're more open, and as a result, you've got smaller. Sure. You have brush and grass and all that. Yeah. So uneven silvicultures, like is one.
C
I think a mosaic is a good.
B
Description calling it too.
A
Phil, we're halfway through the game of trivia. Give us a scoreboard. Update.
C
Anybody'S game that Reva, even mine, has two points. Not too far behind Rev. Seth and Giannis are tied up with three. Doug and Hansi are tied up with four. And with a perfect game at halftime, Randall Williams probably grateful that Brody is not here today.
D
Could be a. I really enjoy. I really enjoy scheduling games of trivia for when other employees of this fine company have to go pick up their kids. So if we could just continue the late Afternoon recording.
B
It's great.
C
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A
6. The topic is wildlife. This next great question is via Sam Ribel. This 16 letter word is defined as, quote, the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a God, animal, or object.
C
I just wrote a trivia question.
A
Oh, should I say this?
C
No, I'm not gonna say it because I want it to be a surprise.
A
Randall is counting his letters. This 16 letter word. This may be the longest answer we've ever had.
D
I was about to ask.
B
Yeah.
A
Is defined as the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a God, animal, or object. Randall, you have this one, right?
D
Boy, I hope so.
A
Spencer, hansi, you got 16 letters down there. Yeah, yeah, I think I got it. Doug is also counting.
C
Oh, no. 15.
A
Okay, well, maybe I misspelled something.
B
Wait a minute. I have too many.
A
You can give one of your letters to Reva and then you guys will have it. This 16 letter word is defined as the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a God, animal, or object.
D
I actually couldn't read my own handwriting well enough to count mine, so I'm just going off my gut.
A
Okay, you're just confident.
D
Yeah, I was trying to distinguish. Is that A? And I just said, whatever.
A
Giannis, how you doing?
C
I'm pretty sure I have the right.
A
Answer, but it's one letter short. I don't know how many 16 letter words exist out there. So if you're close, I bet you have it. Reva Yanni.
C
I'm literally writing. Okay, Give me a break. It's 16 letters.
A
16 letters.
B
Spelling's gonna. I mean, so you'll have to have the spelling correct.
A
You don't have to have it correct.
B
As long as you have 16 letters.
A
That's right. Well, you know, you could even have 15 letters and we'll call it close enough.
B
Maybe I ought to try a third. I have two spellings. Maybe I try a third.
A
This is not a spelling bee. But I think when we get in that new studio, we're gonna have a spelling bee someday. Oh, great, our trivia players.
C
Count me out for that.
A
Maybe we'll have a jabroni team of spellers.
C
I don't even want to be a part of that.
A
Yanni, you still stuck on 15. Not gonna hold it against you if you only got 15 letters, but it probably won't. You wouldn't win the Meat Eater spelling bee, though. This 16 letter word is defined as the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a God, animal, or object.
D
I can't stop you.
B
I'm just gonna go with the. The spelling's close. One letter too many or two letters.
A
Throw an S on the end.
C
That's what I do, Doug. No shame to it.
A
I thought about putting an S on the end, but Giannis, I'm guessing there's an when. I need to double somewhere.
C
Oh, my gosh. Now I have two answers.
B
Punished for having two different.
A
Well, you got to have one answer locked in. If you flip over that whiteboard and you have two answers, Doug, you're gonna.
D
Get it wrong unless they add up to 16 letters together.
A
Yanni has picked his word. Doug, do you have your answer?
B
Close enough for country dancing.
A
Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says anthropomorphize. Giannis anthropomorphize. Randall anthropomorphism. Hansi anthropomorphism. Riva personification. Douglas anthropomorphize. The correct answer is anthropomorphism. If you said anthropomorphize, we'll give that to you as well. Some creative spellings in the room. Those 16 letters. A, N, T, H, R, O, P, O, M, O, R, P, H, I, S, M. Anybody have that right on?
B
Yes, both of those guys did.
C
See, I actually wrote the question literally yesterday with anthropomorphization, and it was 20 letters. Wow. Yeah, I guess I won't be using that one.
A
Anthropomorphism can be applied to fictional animals like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Smokey Bear and real animals like wolves in Yellowstone or the big giant bucks on Doug's farm. Anthropomorphism is a part of being human, with anthropologists saying, we've done this for 40,000 years, as evidenced by ancient statues and cave art that depict animals with human like qualities. Doug, give me an example.
C
But hold on, hold on. Personification, which I also had and Reva had, is the attribution of a personal nature or human Characteristic to something non human.
A
Is it 16 letters or the representation.
C
Of an abstract quality in human form? Noah's 15.
A
Oh, I'm sorry. You were so close. 16 letters, though. We said we needed Doug do some anthropomorphizing of critters on your farm. You got like a buck who's a real bully or maybe a turkey who's really smart.
B
Well. Oh, we have a turkey that's. We call him Limpy. He's been around for. This will be his. If he's around this spring, it'll be his third season of me seeing him. And he was a two year old when I first saw him. Okay, limping.
C
That sounds like a job for the Latvian eagle.
B
I've seen him and it's so funny because I had a friend there hunting. And I was like, oh, there he is out in the field. And. And he's like jacking that leg. You know, he walks like a pirate. You know, it's just what he makes me think of. And he goes, I think I can catch him. And I was like, hey, go ahead.
C
It's not like his wings. His wings are broken.
B
And he had. I really want to. I want somebody to kill him because he. It's just a stiff leg. It's like his knee doesn't work. It's like. It's a. He looks like a pirate. It's like a peg leg.
A
Okay. Oh, Limpy. This might be the spring it happens.
B
Yeah.
A
Question seven. The topic is woodsmanship. This next great question is via Colton Gitterman. Iowa State University says this type of walnut tree, which is used to make high end furniture, is, quote, the most valuable tree in Iowa.
B
Man, you'd be a nice little bone to Doug been throwing bones the whole time.
A
Or Riva, who grew up in the driftless region of Iowa or not. Iowa State University says this type of walnut tree, which is used to make high end furniture, is, quote, the most valuable tree in Iowa. Any of these on the Durin farm?
B
Yes, sir.
A
Okay, you want to tell us planted or natural?
B
Well, we didn't plant any. So they were introduced over time. And I will say this. We plant it or we. This is gonna. I guess it's the walnut tree. So what difference? So they drop walnuts on the ground, and if you have them near the edge of a CRP field, the squirrels are going out and planting, which is a real pain in the butt because you can't have woody stuff growing in your crp. So I cut four of these.
A
Oh, did that hurt you?
B
No, they were Nice big trees didn't hurt me at all. I've had run ins with chainsaws before, but not in this case. And they were, they were nice trees. They weren't, you know, super high grade.
C
But you didn't sell like veneer logs out. Veneer.
B
We had a couple. We had some veneer logs.
C
Oh, good. Oh, I'd like to know, but I.
B
Mean, our net was, you know, about fifteen hundred dollars a tree, which is kind of a low end on some of that. Yeah.
A
But the ones left you have trail cameras on, so nobody's gonna come and steal them either.
B
Yeah, yeah. Oh, and those are the ones though, because they in the right condition, they grow really nice and tall and straight. And I have one that's in this spot that would make the perfect tree stand.
A
Okay.
B
Tree. I did have a guy shimmy up it with a climbing stand, which prompted me to then put a big ring of ribbon and paint around it with a big no on it.
A
Never again.
B
Well, and you know, I mean, it was fine because we climbed it, but. Yeah.
A
Iowa State University says this type of walnut tree, which is used to make high end furniture, is the most valuable tree in Iowa. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Yanni and Randall and Hanzi and Doug.
B
I'm sorry I didn't do that earlier.
A
No, that's her favorite color. It's a black walnut. Black walnuts are not only the most valuable tree in Iowa, they're one of the most valuable trees in North America. It's estimated that a 50 foot black walnut is worth between $5,000 and $25,000, with 60 footers sometimes worth more than $40,000. The most common uses for black walnut wood are cabinets, furniture, flooring, kitchenware, musical instruments, and gun stocks.
B
What do you think, Seth? Are you a big fan of black walnut?
C
40K, like the color of it?
B
Yeah.
C
I. I do like it. I like. I like when you get the. The, like the contrast of the light and the dark.
A
Rich.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
Spencer, this reminded me that. But we didn't address my mea culpa from our last woodsmanship question.
A
Oh, okay. Do you want to save that for. You would like to do it now?
D
No, we can say. Should we save it for another time?
A
Sure, yeah. People on the edge of their seats. Question eight. This episode's running long. Yeah. Big is fishing. NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon while quarantined at this place in 2020. Randall has his answer. This is going to keep his perfect game Going. Our other five players seem stumped. NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon while quarantined at this place in 2020.
D
It's also famously where Jimmy Butler opened a coffee stand. Big Head Coffee. That is now a brand of his.
B
From his real estate.
A
Very famous. Yeah.
C
Where's he from?
A
Yeah, keep talking, please.
D
They were quarantined at this place, not where they lived.
A
Also rumored to have some relations with a reporter at that same.
D
Lou Williams left this place.
A
Yes.
D
To go get some chicken wings at Magic City.
C
It's also where the Beatles officially broke up and Richard Nixon said, I am not a crook. What else, guys? Keep going. What else? What else happened here?
A
NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon.
C
I thought I had it right, but now I'm not. See, I knew those. Those hints weren't actually hints for anybody.
D
Yeah, I saw that. The state of Atlanta, I believe, is. Is. They might make. There's a movement to the lemon pepper chicken wing, their official chicken wing flavor.
A
You should do that.
D
Did I say the state of Atlanta?
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
D
State of Georgia. Geez, it's late in the day. We should really find a window between when my powers begin to dwindle and I yawn a lot. And also, Brody has to take his kids.
A
NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon while quarantined at this place in 2020. This is question eight. We'll get a scoreboard update after this. Seth, you gonna come up with an answer?
C
Nope.
A
I'm stunned about the Richard Nixon detail.
B
Okay.
C
We'Re getting some cell phones. If we get cell phone. Yanni. Cell phones on American people. That's bad. It's getting worse. I feel like.
B
I take mine out of my throw.
A
Throw them across the room.
C
Mine's on airplane. That doesn't always help.
A
Is everybody ready?
C
There we go. It's gone now. Seth's phone.
A
Seth, do you give up?
C
Yeah. No.
A
Go ahead and reveal your answer, Seth. Without an answer. Giannis says Epcot Center. Randall says Disney World. Hansi says Atlanta. Revis says San Francisco. Doug says Tampa.
B
I was in the neighborhood.
A
The correct answer is Disney World. Random.
B
Yeah.
C
I think we give it to Giannis.
A
Okay. I was gonna go to you, Phil. I was gonna defer to you about Epcot.
C
I don't know if they were. Actually. Here's the thing. I don't know if they were quarantined in Epcot, but World Showcase Lagoon is on. Is on Right next to Epcot.
D
I understand the confusion with Atlanta because Lou Williams went to Magic City, but he traveled outside of the quarantine bubble under the auspices of going to a funeral for a relative.
C
God, this was such a bone for random.
B
The NBA created because I thought of the NBA stuff.
A
Yeah, the NBA created the bubble to finish their 2019, 2020 season. During this time, players were quarantined at Disney World for up to 93 days while the league held its playoffs. Fishing became so popular among players that NBC Sports declared it was, quote, everyone's favorite NBA bubble pastime. Players were allowed to fish on Bay Lake, the Seven Seas Lagoon, Village Lake, Crescent Lake, and the World Showcase Lagoon. These water bodies were stocked with largemouth bass in the 1960s. Been naturally reproducing ever since. There is Luka Doncic holding a large.
C
What's he wearing? Is all head.
A
That is all head. That is not a healthy adult. Large mouth.
D
And apologies to any Mavericks fans out there.
A
There's.
B
Luel Cinder.
C
No AD or.
A
No, no, that's Paul. Who is that? Played for the Sixers then. Now he places. Really impress. Doesn't matter. Yeah, the NBA bubble. Phil, give us a scoreboard update. Questions left.
C
It seemed like more of a sports question with two questions left hanging out. With two points, we've got Seth with five. Hansi, Giannis and Doug now all have six points. And Randall still holding on to that perfect game with eight. Randall Kabal, the next two.
D
Can you cut all that out? When we couldn't recognize Paul George, to be fair for listeners, he was staying at a very weird angle where the camera was down near his knees. And so we didn't really get a good head on look.
C
I don't know.
A
You can tell the listeners.
C
I don't know that the listeners.
D
He's a passionate angler, though.
C
When he.
D
When he had that big injury a couple years back, they did a feature in, I want to say Sports Illustrated of him fishing. And he was like, this is how I rehabbed. And it's just him on his boat, just fishing.
C
What kind of boats he got?
A
I don't know every boat. Question 9. The topic is hunting with a colorful name is similar to EHD killing bison, deer, and antelope. This disease with a colorful name is similar to EHD killing bison, deer and antelope. Is this gonna keep the perfect game going?
D
Oh, I hope so, Spencer.
A
But he's. He's a little flustered.
D
No, I'm just sweating.
C
Yeah, that's.
D
That's what flustered me.
B
Has there Been a theme of. Is that just the second color question?
A
Well, yeah. We had the black walnuts and now this one. This disease with a colorful name is similar to EHD killing bison, deer and antelope. Randall, Giannis, Santa Dog all like their answers. Hansi and Reva do not.
C
Revis still has the best time in here.
A
Doug is spying on her whiteboard and had a chuckle.
B
I mean, I, I kind of angled mine trying to give her this disease.
A
Colorful name similar to EHD killing bison, deer and antelope. One of them anyways. Is everybody ready? You're the inspiration.
B
I don't know.
C
I don't know.
A
I don't think I got this. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Giannis and Randall saying blue tongue. Hansi says tuberculosis. Riva says black and blue. Doug says blue tongue. The correct answer is blue tongue.
B
What color is tuberculosis?
A
Well, with a colorful name, I was thinking like, oh, it's fun. Jiminy Cricket.
B
It has a shade of tuberculosis.
A
It has some kind of nickname. Yeah, tuberculosis blue.
D
It sounds like a jazz tune. Miles Davis made this next one famous.
A
Both diseases are spread by biting nets which result in similar clinical signs. Blue tongue is often associated with domestic animals such as sheep and cattle, while EHD kills significantly more wild animals such as deer and elk. All right, here's a correct answer review so far. One was Zion national park. Two. Drift sock or drift anchor. Three, Peregrine falcon. Four, menards. Five. Edge habitat or eco tone. Six. Anthropomorphism. Seven. Black walnut. Eight, Disney World. Nine, blue tongue. Phil, give us a scoreboard update.
C
The update is that Randall has this game locked in. Now the only question is whether or not can get that extra money. Two, sharing the lamb.
B
Telling you, man, I love your hair, Randall.
C
Let's do this for sharing the land, buddy. Thousand bucks.
B
Brilliant thousand. Brilliant scholar.
D
Sharing the land.
A
If you can get this last question right, it will be a $1,000.
C
We're rooting for you, Randall.
A
Question 10, the topic.
D
Don't mess it up. Spencer.
A
Merriam Webster defines this, this six letter Italian word as quote, large shrimp prepared with a garlic flavored sauce. Okay, we have a confident bellissima. Randall thinks he's Gonna have a $1,000 donation today. Merriam Webster defines this six letter Italian word as large shrimp prepared with a garlic flavored sauce. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have have Seth and Giannis and Randall and Hansi and Riva and Doug saying scampi. They got it. The correct answer is scampi. Most of the world considers scampi to be the peeled tail of any type of prawn. But in the uk, scampi refers to a specific lobster that's found near Norway. In the United States, scampi is usually prepared with garlic, lemon butter and white wine, then served over pasta or with. With bread. And Randall has his perfect game. Today he got 10 correct answers. Giannis and Doug. Doug, with eight correct answers, probably your best, strongest.
B
Oh, I don't think it's probably. I think it's my three at least.
A
So Randall, who's been in a like three month slop.
B
Yeah.
A
Ended that with a perfect game. What are you going to do with that eleven thousand dollar donation?
B
No pressure.
D
I'd like to give it to Sharing the Land.
A
Oh, Sharing the Land. What do you like about them?
D
Well, it's not the people involved, it's the mission.
A
You know that's right. Act.
D
Anything we can do for access. Money well spent.
A
Uhhuh. Doug was saying that that $500 was going to go towards a website, but now he can have two websites with all that money you graciously donated to them.
B
Today we were updating and we who was talking about AI earlier and our web guy, Spooky, we just got a estimate from him for some upgrades that we need to do and I was like, isn't that less than what we have been paying? He goes, AI is doing a lot for. A lot of it for me now. Oh, okay.
A
Yeah, we have three websites. Thousand dollars.
B
No, no, no, it's. I mean it's a big. There's a whole matching thing and there's.
A
A lot of thousand dollars going to Doug Duran's Sharing the Land. Doug, thank you for joining us and.
B
Thank you for having me here.
D
Always good to see you.
C
Thanks Spencer. Very entertaining.
A
We'll have you back. Studio 3.0 is open. Join us next week for more meat eater trivia. The only game show where conservation always wins.
B
Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And it's an avid amateur rock hound.
A
This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
Date: February 4, 2026
Host: Spencer Newharth
Guests/Players: Giannis, Randall, Seth, Hansi, Doug Durin, Reva
This episode of The MeatEater Podcast features a lively round of “MeatEater Trivia,” the outdoor-themed quiz show where, as always, conservation wins. Host Spencer Newharth brings together a recurring cast of outdoor experts and MeatEater personalities—Giannis, Randall, Seth, Hansi, Doug Durin, and Reva—for 10 rounds of questions spanning hunting, fishing, conservation, and wild foods. The prize: a $500 (which eventually doubled to $1,000) donation to the conservation organization of the winner’s choice.
The episode blends humor, friendly rivalry, deep expertise, and moments of outdoor storytelling, all while testing the group's knowledge about the natural world.
The trivia covers a wide span of topics, with an atmosphere of camaraderie and good-natured ribbing.
Question 1 (Public Lands) [08:01]:
Q: Angels Landing is the most famous hike in which national park?
A: Zion National Park
Question 2 (Fishing) [11:52]:
Q: What’s the Bass Pro contraption that looks like a 'huge ice cream cone with the small end cut out,' used to position your boat on windy days?
A: Drift sock or drift anchor
Question 3 (Wildlife) [19:07]:
Q: This falcon is the world’s fastest animal?
A: Peregrine Falcon
Question 4 (Outdoor Life) [24:20]:
Q: This home improvement store where customers 'save big money' sells hunting blind kits.
A: Menards
Question 5 (Conservation) [28:38]:
Q: The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines ________ habitat as the transitional zone between grassland and forest.
A: Edge/Edge Habitat or Ecotone
Question 6 (Wildlife) [35:34]:
Q: 16-letter word defined as attributing human characteristics to a god, animal, or object?
A: Anthropomorphism
Question 7 (Woodsmanship) [41:32]:
Q: Iowa State says this walnut tree is the most valuable in Iowa?
A: Black Walnut
Question 8 (Fishing/Sports) [44:28]:
Q: NBA players fished daily during 2020 quarantine at which location?
A: Disney World
Question 9 (Hunting) [50:39]:
Q: This disease with a colorful name is similar to EHD, killing bison, deer, and antelope?
A: Blue Tongue
Question 10 (Cooking) [53:21]:
Q: Merriam-Webster defines this six-letter Italian word as 'large shrimp prepared with a garlic flavored sauce.'
A: Scampi
| Time | Segment | Highlights | |----------|----------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 00:12 | Episode intro, participants, prize | Welcome, trivia rules, conservation donation | | 02:02 | Sharing the Land non-profit | Doug’s update and appeal for support | | 04:41 | Farm habitat projects | Savanna restoration, grassland biodiversity | | 07:07 | Trivia Tournament preview | Tournament bracket and predictions | | 08:01 | Trivia begins (Q1 - Angels Landing) | Zion National Park, national park tourism talk | | 11:52 | Q2 (Bass Pro boat contraption) | Drift sock/anchor, fishing tech evolution | | 19:07 | Q3 (World’s fastest animal) | Peregrine falcon | | 24:20 | Q4 (Home improvement store) | Menards, jingle nostalgia | | 28:38 | Q5 (Edge habitat) | Edge/Feather habitat, land management details | | 35:34 | Q6 (Anthropomorphism) | Spelling debate, animal personification | | 41:32 | Q7 (Value tree in Iowa) | Black walnut, timber economics | | 44:28 | Q8 (NBA bubble fishing) | Disney World, sports trivia | | 50:39 | Q9 (Colorful disease) | Blue tongue, wildlife pathology jokes | | 53:21 | Q10 (Italian shrimp dish) | Scampi, culinary trivia and food facts | | 54:30 | Winner & donation | Randall’s perfect game, $1,000 to Sharing the Land |
Best Quote of the Episode:
“Anything we can do for access—money well spent.” — Randall [54:56], on the importance of supporting “Sharing the Land” with the trivia prize.
Recommended Next Step:
Catch the highly anticipated MeatEater Trivia Tournament (next week) and, if inspired, look into supporting or learning more about “Sharing the Land.”
[End of Summary]