Ep. 836: 2026 MeatEater Trivia Tournament, Round 2

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast – Episode 836: 2026 MeatEater Trivia Tournament, Round 2

Date: February 18, 2026
Host: Spencer Newharth (with Steven Rinella, Giannis Patelis, Randall Williams, Brody Henderson, Seth Morris, Corey Calkins)

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Overview

This episode is the second round of the fourth annual MeatEater Trivia Championship. The stakes are high as returning guests and core members of the MeatEater crew compete in a 30-question trivia showdown covering hunting, fishing, conservation, nature, and wild foods. The humorous, competitive, and irreverent tone balances deep outdoor knowledge with the playful camaraderie of the host and panelists.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tournament Standings and Format (00:14–01:30)

• Spencer recaps the format: scores from round one, competition across three episodes, and a champion crowned after 30 questions.
• Current standings:
  • Corey: 4 pts; Randall: 5; Brody & Seth: 6; Steve & Giannis: 7.
• Banter about squirrel hunts, the Super Bowl, and who is a “true outdoorsman.”

Memorable Quote:

“This event is bigger than the Super Bowl.” – Brody Henderson (00:47)

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2. Pre-Trivia Banter and Chair-Switching (01:30–05:24)

• The crew jokes about Giannis hosting a Super Bowl party versus a squirrel hunt and who got invited.
• Steve switches chairs for better reading and answering comfort.

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3. Housekeeping & Contesting Last Week’s Answers (04:34–05:24)

• Spencer reviews a prior trivia dispute about "Rick Cord" being an acceptable answer for a firewood measurement.
• Notable institutions (e.g., the Minnesota DNR, National Park Service) call it a "Rick."

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4. Trivia Questions & Answers

Q1: % of Americans Eating Game Meat (05:52–09:31)

• 2019 National Shooting Sports Foundation survey: What % of Americans eat game meat at least once/year?
• Choices: 13%, 28%, 43%, 58%
• Correct: 43%
• Panel expresses disbelief; lively debate ensues on plausibility and survey method.
• Quote:

  “I knew it was going to be something wacky because it’s coming from an advocacy group...” – Steve Rinella (09:09)

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Q2: Common Spinner Bait Blades (10:44–13:37)

• According to Mike Iaconelli, most common blades are Colorado, Indiana, and what non-state elongated blade?
• Correct: Willow blade
• Discussion about fishing lures, regional preferences, and angling credibility.
• Quote:

  “Willow blades are long and create more flash, which is ideal for clear water...” – Spencer Newharth (13:39)

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Q3: Bird Named for Its Call, Mini Canada Goose (14:24–17:24)

• What bird, named for its high-pitched call, looks like a miniature Canada goose?
• Correct: Cackling goose (accepts "cackler")
• Trivia about bird classification changes and relative sizes.
• Quote:

  “Cackling geese used to be considered a subspecies of Canada geese but were split from each other in 2004.” – Spencer Newharth (17:00)

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Q4: “Lazarus Species” (Conservation) (17:50–21:03)

• What biblical term describes a species that reappears after being presumed extinct?
• Correct: Lazarus species
• Example: Coelacanth fish; etymology and secondary uses of coelacanth scales.
• Quote:

  “A Judas species would be one that they... tag.” – Spencer Newharth, on alternate biblical names (20:17)

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Q5: Mount Shasta’s State (22:14–23:45)

• Where is Mount Shasta, America’s 34th tallest mountain?
• Correct: California
• Includes geography, snowfall records, and national forests.
• Quote:

  “At 14,179 ft, Mount Shasta is the second highest peak in the Cascades and fifth highest in California.” – Spencer Newharth (23:45)

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Q6: Floating Six-Letter Rock (25:02–27:42)

• What six-letter, porous rock floats due to trapped gas pockets?
• Correct: Pumice
• Includes off-topic banter about previous trivia tournaments (“Jabroni” trophy).
• Quote:

  “Pumice is a volcanic rock… the trapped gas bubbles are called vesicles, which gives it a density lower than water.” – Spencer Newharth (27:50)

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Q7: ATF Firearm Transfer Form Number (28:26–30:53)

• What four-digit form do you fill for the ATF to buy a gun from a dealer?
• Correct: 4473
• Contextual trivia: Hunter Biden’s legal history as an example.
• Quote:

  “Randall got it. It’s a 4473.” – Spencer Newharth (30:53)

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Q8: Nine-Letter Wagon on Oregon Trail (32:08–36:20)

• You still see wheel ruts from this nine-letter wagon (curved floor, white canvas) on the Oregon Trail.
• Correct: Conestoga
• Fun facts: Links to “smoking a stogie,” wagon types.
• Quote:

  “Unlike its depiction in the Oregon Trail video game, the Conestoga was used to move freights, not families, across the country.” – Spencer Newharth (36:31)

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Scoreboard Update (37:14–38:26)

• Corey: 6, Giannis: 8, Seth: 9, Brody: 10, Randall: 11, Steve: 12

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Q9: Conservation Group Named for Angling Author (39:06–42:06)

• The ___ ___ League of America is named after the author of “The Compleat Angler” (1653).
• Correct: Isaac Walton
• Includes background on the group’s history and influence.
• Quote:

  “The Isaac Walton League of America was created… to protect natural resources and encourage outdoor recreation.” – Spencer Newharth (41:14)

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Q10: Two Countries With Most Wolves (43:28–45:51)

• Which two countries have the highest wolf populations?
• Correct: Russia and Canada
• Included population numbers and historical range.
• Quote:

  “Russia has 70,000 wolves... Canada has about 55,000, and they occupy 90% of their historic range.” – Spencer Newharth (45:51)

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Final Standings for Round 2 (46:41–end)

• Corey: 7 | Seth: 10 | Giannis: 10 | Brody: 11 | Randall: 13 | Steve: 14
• The competition remains close, with Steve and Randall leading as the championship approaches next episode.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You got to practice some level of discretion about what makes sense or not.”
  – Steve Rinella disputing survey data on wild game meat (09:35)
• “Judas species would be one that they... tag.”
  – Spencer Newharth, riffing on biblical species names (20:17)
• “I feel like Brian Harmon going into like... hole on the Wimbledon.”
  – Steve Rinella joking about his lead, mixing sports metaphors (46:58)
• “Join us next week for round three of the MeatEater Trivia tournament where we will crown a champion.”
  – Spencer Newharth (47:10)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Tournament standings/format: 00:14–01:30
• Banter about squirrel hunts and Super Bowl: 01:30–05:24
• Discussion on "Rick Cord" answer: 04:34–05:24
• Start of trivia questions: 05:52
• Disbelief & debate on wild game stats: 09:01–09:31
• Cackling goose answer & explanation: 16:28–17:24
• Lazarus species, coelacanth story: 20:06–21:03
• Scoreboard updates: 24:03, 37:14, 46:41
• ATF Form 4473 question & Hunter Biden anecdote: 30:53–31:32
• Discussion about presidential pardons: 31:36–35:30
• Isaac Walton League and conservation efforts: 41:14–42:06
• Wolves, country populations: 44:30–45:51
• Closing banter and next episode tease: 47:10

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Tone and Style Highlights

• The conversation is playful, irreverent, and highly informed, reflecting camaraderie and expertise.
• Joking about politics, personal habits, and the quirks of outdoor life keeps the atmosphere lively even in moments of disagreement.
• Technical depth is balanced with accessibility, welcoming both trivia fans and those new to outdoor topics.

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Conclusion

Episode 836 delivers a competitive, educational, and entertaining trivia session that blends deep knowledge of outdoor life with spontaneous humor and panel camaraderie. Scores are tight as the championship heads into its final round, setting the stage for the crowning of the next MeatEater Trivia champion.

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For avid radio game show fans and outdoor enthusiasts alike, this episode packs facts, banter, laughs, and learning in equal measure—and, per the show's guiding principle, proves that “conservation always wins.”

Transcript

[Stephen Rinella]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. It's a me podcast.

[Spencer Newharth]

Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth, and today we're joined by Steve, Giannis, Randall, Brody, Seth, and Corey. This is episode two of the fourth annual Meat Eater Trivia Championship. This competition will span three episodes. Whoever has the most points after 30 questions will be declared the newest Meat Eater Trivia champion. Now, there will be spoilers from last week's episode, so if you haven't listened to that one yet, then pause this show and go back to listen to episode 833.

[Stephen Rinella]

Probably won't work to pause it. They'll probably have to just get out.

[Spencer Newharth]

Of it, you know? Yeah. All right, everyone's caught up now.

[Seth Morris]

They've had to switch to a different media player.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, you go to a different app, you know?

[Spencer Newharth]

Bill, please pull up the scoreboard so we can and see where players stand going into the second round of questions.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Well, here after round one, right before round two, Corey is in last place with four points, but still in the game, I would say, this early. Oh.

[Corey Calkins]

Oh, yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall.

[Randall Williams]

Randall. Coming up next with five. Brody and Seth are tied up with six.

[Corey Calkins]

I like where I'm at.

[Randall Williams]

And tied up in first are Steven Rinella and giannis Kutellis with seven.

[Spencer Newharth]

Now, remind you, last year when we did 30 questions, Randall was leading after episode one, and he never gave up that lead.

[Randall Williams]

Really?

[Stephen Rinella]

I didn't win last year.

[Spencer Newharth]

You did not win last year. You did win the year before.

[Stephen Rinella]

Was I here?

[Spencer Newharth]

You were here last year. Yep. Randall beat you fair and square by two whole points.

[Stephen Rinella]

You sure?

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm certain of it. You had 24. Randall had 26. Now, before we turn on the mics, Brody said that he needed to be honest since this event is bigger than.

[Corey Calkins]

The Super Bowl, I'd like to address the fact that Giannis can't miss the super bowl this weekend.

[Stephen Rinella]

If you listen to part one of this. Weren't you asking about Yanni? Is he true outdoorsman?

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, yes.

[Stephen Rinella]

He's not.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. He's not.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yanni gets a whole squirrel hunt going for the kids and then gets everything. Gets the permission. Get the permissions.

[Seth Morris]

Yep.

[Stephen Rinella]

And then he's like, oh, I can't forget. I got a. I'm not. Not only is it the super bowl day, I forgot I'm hosting a Super bowl party. Wait, so I didn't get invited squirrel.

[Seth Morris]

Hunting or to the super bowl party?

[Stephen Rinella]

I've been invited to the Super Bowl.

[Spencer Newharth]

Party.

[Giannis Patelis]

Our super bowl parties. Very small.

[Stephen Rinella]

He didn't say party, he said hosting.

[Spencer Newharth]

What? So what's going on with the super bowl party? What are you serving?

[Corey Calkins]

Not squirrel.

[Giannis Patelis]

I haven't cooked any.

[Stephen Rinella]

No, he might be because I'm gonna go on Saturday.

[Giannis Patelis]

I haven't, I haven't got. I haven't thought that far.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Giannis Patelis]

You know, because there was a.

[Spencer Newharth]

It's only a few days away.

[Giannis Patelis]

I know. And there was a few moments where I'm like, well, maybe I can still drive three hours each direction.

[Stephen Rinella]

My wife was like, I don't understand what the.

[Giannis Patelis]

Didn't make it to the game.

[Stephen Rinella]

Well, my wife was like, well, that's not till the evening.

[Spencer Newharth]

It starts at like 5:30 probably.

[Stephen Rinella]

And I was like, you don't understand where we're going. Squirrel.

[Spencer Newharth]

4:30 kickoff. Spencer, Corey Calkins doesn't like to drive to eastern Montana to kill an antelope. But you guys are going to drive three hours to kill some squirrels.

[Corey Calkins]

Not to eastern Montana though. Somewhere else.

[Randall Williams]

All right, Wait, who you say Corey? He doesn't want you like driving out there.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, for the last 10 years I've just. I've been able to not have to go that far. He likes the tags are getting tough these days.

[Randall Williams]

Geez, I drive all the way out there just to look around.

[Stephen Rinella]

Winter though, was going to be.

[Corey Calkins]

Steve drove out there. Well, not even out to eastern like northeastern Montana.

[Stephen Rinella]

Coyote hunt came home.

[Spencer Newharth]

Seth, I'm just a little.

[Stephen Rinella]

Seriously, don't put that can at all.

[Brody Henderson]

Seriously.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, okay.

[Stephen Rinella]

Just make me go and make four points.

[Spencer Newharth]

This show is usually editless, but Steve has just dropped identifier for where he likes to coyote hunt somewhere in the Rocky Mountains. And so now Bill has to make a cut.

[Stephen Rinella]

Well, because I want to try something and I want to be the guy that tries it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, let's talk about it after the show. What the thing you want to try. Oh yeah. I'd like to give you some ideas.

[Giannis Patelis]

Steve has made a tactical change. Getting ready for the second game. He switched chairs with me.

[Spencer Newharth]

Switched big time. Didn't even ask your permission.

[Stephen Rinella]

I like because I like to read the question and so I don't like that feeling of needing to move.

[Seth Morris]

He's a language man.

[Stephen Rinella]

I feel like I was losing part of my answer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Swinging around like that cost you a point. Probably. Then we have some housekeeping to get to. Last week, Steve argued that Yanni's answer of Rick Cord should not be accepted. Citing that nobody calls it that. Well, here's a list of nobodies who do in fact call it a Rick Cord Timberwolf firewood processing equipment don't know Woodchuckers firewood don't know wedges firewood don't know Butler wood don't know Premier firewood company don't know the prep important it's premier it sound like they know what they're press company do you know house digest, home guide.com and most importantly, Steve's heard of these ones. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and.

[Stephen Rinella]

Calls it a Rick.

[Spencer Newharth]

And the National Park Service. Rick Cord.

[Stephen Rinella]

Rick Cord.

[Spencer Newharth]

Rick Cord. Good luck arguing man.

[Stephen Rinella]

Whatever.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right, the Shelby index for today is a three and a half. So our winner should get seven correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop Phil. Look, I need to know what I.

[Stephen Rinella]

Stand to win everything Record just tend to win everything. Practice guy searchers for SEO.

[Spencer Newharth]

We're gonna Question two, Question one of round two. The topic is cooking. Getting right into it, huh will be multiple choice. According to a 2019 survey, what percentage of Americans eat game meat at least once a year? Is it 13%, 28%, 43% or 58%?

[Corey Calkins]

According to a survey by who?

[Spencer Newharth]

The National Shooting Sports foundation. They interviewed over 3, 000Americans. Here is the exact question they asked, not including meat from farm raised sources, ordered at restaurants or bought at stores. Have you eaten any wild caught game meat such as venison or deer, wild turkey, boar, buffalo or duck in the past 12 months? So, according to a 2019 survey, what percentage of Americans eat game meat at least once a year?

[Randall Williams]

This is why all our markers end up in the corner.

[Spencer Newharth]

This is why nobody's wearing a headset. Your four choices. 13%. 28%. 43%. 58%. What percentage of Americans eat game meat once a year? 13%. 28%. 43%. 58%.

[Stephen Rinella]

Here's the deal.

[Randall Williams]

Well, just wait till you get it wrong first.

[Giannis Patelis]

That's a good line, Seth.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is everybody ready?

[Giannis Patelis]

No.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh. 13%. 28. 43%. 58% of Americans eat game meat at least once a year. You're gonna have to argue with the NSSF who you like.

[Stephen Rinella]

No, no. It's not like I'm not arguing like I don't know. You know. It's not that I got it wrong.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yanni came up with an answer. Now he's thinking about changing his answer. Giannis, it's not inclusive of fish that. I read you the question. It said any wild caught game meat such as venison or deer, wild turkey, boar, Buffalo or duck. And it says this is excluding or. No, it's not including meat from farm raised sources, ordered at restaurants or bought at school.

[Stephen Rinella]

Can you read it again? Not at the whole. Not including, but I got that. But the other part, fish.

[Giannis Patelis]

Is fish in there or not?

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

[Spencer Newharth]

Does not list fish. Have you eaten any wild caught game meat such as venison or deer, wild turkey, boar, buffalo or duck in the past 12 months? They asked over 3, 000Americans. This question, is everybody ready?

[Giannis Patelis]

Would you put down Giannis, 13, 13.

[Spencer Newharth]

28, 43 or 58? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says 43. Steve, 28, Randall, 13. Corey, 43, Giannis, 13, Brody, 13 13.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yes, I'm aware.

[Spencer Newharth]

The correct answer once a year is 43%.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's. Wait, that can't be true. Here's the deal.

[Corey Calkins]

So 160 million people in this country ate game meat last year.

[Spencer Newharth]

No. That is what this survey show. That made complete sense.

[Stephen Rinella]

I knew it was going to be something wacky because it's coming from an advocacy group and not to hack them. It's a great organization. But they're going to want to put. They're going to. They're going to be like, oh, look, all of these, you know, I mean.

[Spencer Newharth]

Since you knew that information, you should have just put oh, okay.

[Stephen Rinella]

I just don't know how egregious it.

[Corey Calkins]

Would be.5% of the population.

[Stephen Rinella]

You got that right.

[Corey Calkins]

Half the country eats game meat.

[Spencer Newharth]

This data was collected by the national shooting.

[Stephen Rinella]

You got to practice some level of like discretion about what makes sense or not. You could have all. I could have. I could host a show and find places that had all kinds of wrong stuff and put it down.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well done, Corey.

[Giannis Patelis]

But no, seriously, I'd like to know, did they hire like just name one of these polling companies that like professional.

[Spencer Newharth]

They called people, they interviewed people in person.

[Giannis Patelis]

Representatives, nss. So like when they got their list of people, was it like all people, like in their universe? Because that would make sense if you.

[Spencer Newharth]

Were like tell you that answer. I would imagine no to that.

[Stephen Rinella]

Dude, you got to practice a little.

[Giannis Patelis]

Like I think it's a great question.

[Spencer Newharth]

They learned that Midwesterners are the most likely to eat game meat with 55 having done so in the last year. That was the only region with more than 50 of respondents who eat game.

[Stephen Rinella]

8 million people in Manhattan, man. You can argue there's a bunch of them.

[Spencer Newharth]

Steve got it wrong. Yanni got it wrong. Brody got it wrong. And they are loud.

[Corey Calkins]

No, I was right. You were wrong.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question two, the topic is fishy defined, right? This next great question.

[Giannis Patelis]

Is there a God or is there not a God?

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, this next great question is via Nathan Trujillo.

[Seth Morris]

I guess we'll never know.

[Spencer Newharth]

According to Mike Iconnelli, the most common spinner bait blades are Colorado, Indiana, and this elongated blade that isn't named after a state.

[Stephen Rinella]

Man, you got it.

[Corey Calkins]

Old Mike I. Canelli, spinner bait guy.

[Spencer Newharth]

You guys haven't considered that?

[Randall Williams]

I can.

[Spencer Newharth]

Ellie could be wrong and you guys should get really mad at him.

[Randall Williams]

Mike Icanelli just announced his retirement. I feel like he's here.

[Spencer Newharth]

He's had like he did a book.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know, my, my, my agent, my agent sold his book.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, it's a great long ago. It's him holding a bass about this far from his face.

[Stephen Rinella]

That was my, that was my litter agent sold that book.

[Seth Morris]

Seth was watching bass fishing tournaments pretty much through the entirety of radio live today.

[Spencer Newharth]

According to Mike Icanelli, common spinner bait blades are Colorado, Indiana. And this elongated blade that isn't named after a state is a big one.

[Corey Calkins]

Going on right now.

[Randall Williams]

It's the first, first class of the elite series today. Like Gunnersville.

[Spencer Newharth]

Name of a. Brody thinks he has it right. Randall, do you have it right?

[Corey Calkins]

Oh, I got it right.

[Seth Morris]

I think I got it right. But after that first question, who knows?

[Spencer Newharth]

Corey, do you have this one right? I got a really good guess and a request for more fly fishing questions.

[Seth Morris]

So 100. 100.

[Spencer Newharth]

We're saying like 100 million spin bai blades are Colorado, Indiana. And this elongated blade, that, that is like dangerous state.

[Stephen Rinella]

Here's.

[Spencer Newharth]

Boy, this is tough. You know, the folks at nsf. Nsf.

[Seth Morris]

I know.

[Stephen Rinella]

And, and I know like with all due respect, I, I, I support the organization's mission, but with all due respect, I think that that's a propaganda piece. There's no way that's true.

[Spencer Newharth]

But knowing that, then you should have elevated you.

[Stephen Rinella]

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not gonna sit here and argue about this.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, okay.

[Stephen Rinella]

Probably.

[Spencer Newharth]

According to Mike Icanelli.

[Stephen Rinella]

Paint myself into a corner.

[Spencer Newharth]

I've been called the bad boy of bass fishing. The most common spinner bait blades are Colorado, Indiana. In this elongated blade that isn't named after a state.

[Seth Morris]

You gotta leave yourself a way out, you know, in case you do need to argue.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yanni, do you like your answer?

[Giannis Patelis]

Not really, but.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, you know, let me see if.

[Stephen Rinella]

I like man, because I have openly.

[Corey Calkins]

I like that.

[Spencer Newharth]

Is everybody ready?

[Randall Williams]

I can't come up with it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answer, Seth. Without an answer. Steve, what's that say? Floater.

[Stephen Rinella]

Feather.

[Spencer Newharth]

Feather. Randall. Willow.

[Stephen Rinella]

You didn't write Corey.

[Randall Williams]

No, I didn't have.

[Spencer Newharth]

Category. Giannis. Skinny. Brody. Willow. The correct answer is a willow blade. Brody.

[Stephen Rinella]

Dude, closing the gap.

[Spencer Newharth]

Colorado blades are round and prod the most vibration, making them the best choice for dirty water. Willow blades are long and create more flash, which is ideal for clear water. Indiana blades are teardrop shaped as a hybrid between Colorado and willow, giving them a mix of vibration and flash. Phil has a picture for you there of the three different blade shapes.

[Corey Calkins]

Status as an angler in my eyes.

[Stephen Rinella]

Don't see me arguing.

[Seth Morris]

I could have given you both Willow and Colorado just argue for no reason.

[Giannis Patelis]

Well, I love Colorado, these two things, but you know what I love more is when there's one instead of that blade, there's one that has those little turned wings and it's on the top.

[Stephen Rinella]

Buzz bait.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question three. The topic is hunting double buzz bait. Cornell says this bird, which is named after its high pitched call, looks like, quote, a miniature version of a Canada goose. Brody and Steve going to their whiteboards. Cornell says this bird, which is named after its high pitched call, looks like a miniature version of a Canada goose. Steve, you have this one, right? That's not nodding. Brody, do you have this one right?

[Stephen Rinella]

Yesterday? Well, no, he said he would have.

[Spencer Newharth]

Given it to you anyway.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yesterday.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah, I mean, I feel pretty good about it. It popped right in my head, which is usually a good sign.

[Spencer Newharth]

Do you think Giannis should know this one? He has a. I like to see.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yanni over there struggling. Dude.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah, but sometimes Giannis just think, thinks and thinks and thinks and then casually writes the answer down.

[Stephen Rinella]

I'm more of an impulsive player.

[Randall Williams]

It's something that popped right into my head, but I don't know if it's right.

[Spencer Newharth]

This bird, which is named after its high pitched call, looks like a miniature version of the Canada goose.

[Stephen Rinella]

Just put down the little teeny goose. See if you get that.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody making a change after being the first one, Brody was answered.

[Brody Henderson]

Randall.

[Stephen Rinella]

He only had the right side of his board facing out.

[Seth Morris]

Well, I got a double sided board.

[Stephen Rinella]

That's cool.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall, do you have a chance at getting this one?

[Stephen Rinella]

No, that's good. Let's do it.

[Corey Calkins]

Hold on.

[Seth Morris]

I think I have a bird named after noise.

[Spencer Newharth]

Cornell says this bird, which is named after looks like a miniature version of a goose.

[Seth Morris]

I have Something else in my head, but I can't put a name to it. I know.

[Spencer Newharth]

Corey, do you have this one?

[Giannis Patelis]

I don't know.

[Spencer Newharth]

I got an answer that if. I think if you looked at this bird with your eyes squinting really hard, it would look like a mini goose. Yanni, do you have an answer?

[Randall Williams]

I don't.

[Stephen Rinella]

Really, I don't.

[Spencer Newharth]

He got the first six right.

[Stephen Rinella]

Why are we dragging this out so long?

[Spencer Newharth]

And now he may start over right here.

[Randall Williams]

Listen, you're going to have a time where you're gonna need some time.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Cackler. Steve says cackling Goose. Randall says Warbler. Corey says Chickadee. Chickadee. Brody says Cackling Goose. The correct answer is the cackling goose. We'll give it to Seth for saying cackler even though he spelled it with a K instead of a C. Those.

[Corey Calkins]

Are the ones that make a louder cackle.

[Spencer Newharth]

Cackling geese used to be considered a subspecies of Canada geese but were split from each other in 2004. That's when the American Ornithologists Union took the four smallest subspecies of Canada goose and determined that they're, that they're their own species. The smallest subspecies of cackling geese is about 1/4 the size of the biggest subspecies of Canada geese.

[Giannis Patelis]

What's the spread ratio?

[Spencer Newharth]

1/4 1. The smallest cackler is 25 the size of the biggest Canada.

[Stephen Rinella]

Sometimes you'll see a cackler in with can.

[Spencer Newharth]

Sure. And you'll know it right away.

[Stephen Rinella]

So it's like everybody gets real excited. You think everybody wanted to get the bigger one, but everybody wants to get the smaller one.

[Corey Calkins]

What is it like a 4 pounder compared to like 1612?

[Stephen Rinella]

If it looks like a, like a Muscovy duck, I guess. Size, you know, I don't know, like a mallard.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question for the topic is conservation. This next great question is via Gabe Nman. Come on, Gabe. This biblical word is defined as, quote, a species or group of organisms that reappears after being presumed extinct. Steve has his answer locked in. Brody and Randall think they might know it. Now Randall is joining him. This biblical word is defined as a species or group of organisms that reappears after being presumed extinct.

[Seth Morris]

I had to flip through the scripture a little bit.

[Spencer Newharth]

Found it. Found it. Didn't control that. Pulled it out of his back pocket.

[Seth Morris]

I was looking for a good word.

[Randall Williams]

That was good.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's nice.

[Randall Williams]

I liked it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah. Randall and Steve, the only confident players on this one. This biblical word is defined as a Species or group of organisms that reappears after being presumed.

[Stephen Rinella]

I can't believe you haven't done this one yet.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, sometimes for the tournament, if I think of a question that I think is good enough, I'll hold it off. I'll put it in a separate pile for the tournament.

[Stephen Rinella]

Like the good ones.

[Spencer Newharth]

You put keepers in there? Yes, that's right. So this is a good one. This biblical word is defined as a species or group of organisms that reappears after being presumed extinct. We may have four players with blank whiteboards on this one. They don't know their biology. They don't know their Bible.

[Seth Morris]

Are you gonna grow your beard back over the weekend?

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, I'm going for a perfect 5 o' clock shadow by Friday at 6 o'. Clock.

[Seth Morris]

It's really getting me. Yeah, it's not bad. It's just like. It's unsettling. Is it?

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah.

[Seth Morris]

Like, who's this guy?

[Spencer Newharth]

Cory's got a costume contest this weekend that he had to shave for. Yeah. There isn't a winner for best costume, but everybody dresses up. Okay. Yeah. Cory's gonna be.

[Giannis Patelis]

Steve's ready in case.

[Seth Morris]

He's gonna be. He's gonna be Tom Hanks from A League of Their Own.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, wow. Good guess. Brody, do you have this?

[Corey Calkins]

I don't think it's right.

[Seth Morris]

It's a good excuse to get sloppy drunk. Oh, just so you're in character.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm there, brother.

[Stephen Rinella]

Dude, let's just. Giannis, we're like, these guys are over here talking about all kinds of stuff. Let's just put her up.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yanni, are you ready?

[Giannis Patelis]

Yep.

[Spencer Newharth]

Go ahead and reveal your answer. Without an answer. Steve and Randall say, lazarus, you're upside down. Corey says, miracle. Giannis says, judas, he betrayed Christ.

[Giannis Patelis]

I chose the wrong one.

[Spencer Newharth]

The correct answer. A Lazarus species. A Judas species would be one that they. They tag. Okay.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know about all that.

[Spencer Newharth]

There are about 350 organisms that have been raised from the dead and are considered Laz species. The most dramatic example is the coelacanth, which scientists thought went extinct 66 million years ago during the same event that killed the dinosaurs. The West Indian species was discovered at a South African fish market in 1938, and a second species was found at an Indonesian fish market in 1997. A few hundred West Indian coelacanth have been observed since then, while only a dozen Indonesian coelacanth have been seen in the last 30 years.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know what they use those for?

[Randall Williams]

Picture.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know what they use those scales for? A Guy saw. There's. There's a story about someone trying to find those. And you know, in tire shops in West Africa, like guys that repair bike tires, when you got to scruff the tire rubber up, they'll use that, you know, like, like if you fix a tire kit, that tin lid sure has the rasp on the lid. They'll use that scale to rasp rubber tubing they got before you throw a patch.

[Spencer Newharth]

They got the right scales for that job. If you want to see a coelacanth. Phyllis showing us a photo right now, you can go to the Meat Eater podcast YouTube channel to watch this episode.

[Seth Morris]

I always thought the whole knowledge of coelacanths and my interest in them was just ruined by that Volkswagen commercial.

[Spencer Newharth]

Explain.

[Seth Morris]

There's the whole commercial where the guy explains that coelacants were thought to be extinct and then they found one. Yeah, but it's in a commercial. Yeah, it's in reference to a full size spare tire. It was like a Super bowl commercial.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. I don't like commercials that ruin songs for me.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah, I really like.

[Spencer Newharth]

And then it puts that song in there. I don't like that.

[Seth Morris]

This ruined seal cans for me, which is harder to do, but they did it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question 5. The topic is public lands. America's 34th tallest mountain, Mount Shasta is located in this state. Okay. We will be halfway through the trivia tournament after this question and Phil will give us a scoreboard update. America's 34th tallest mountain, Mount Shasta, is located in this state. Steve and Giannis and Randall and Cory and Brody all have their answers. So this is.

[Stephen Rinella]

This is the one from the keeper pile.

[Spencer Newharth]

This is from the keeper pile. That's right. We'll see how well you guys know your mountains. Seth, do you like your answer?

[Randall Williams]

Honestly, I don't. I have no clue.

[Spencer Newharth]

Does it seem like a place that could have America's 34th tallest mountain?

[Corey Calkins]

Seems like anywhere could have the 34.

[Spencer Newharth]

Mount Shasta is located in this state. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Colorado. Steve and Corey, Indiana.

[Randall Williams]

I've never been to that state.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody, say California. The correct answer is California. At 14, 179ft tall, Mount Shasta is the second highest peak in the Cascades and fifth highest in California. It is located inside the Shasta Trinity National Forest and visible from 150 miles away. It holds the U. S. Record for most snowfall during a single storm when it received 16ft of snow during a 1959 blizzard that lasted seven days.

[Seth Morris]

That's tough.

[Spencer Newharth]

That'll get the hippies going. Sixteen feet is skiing. Phil, give us a scoreboard update. We are through question 15, tournament.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'm not looking.

[Randall Williams]

You can tell who's happy with the scoreboard right now, but we'll get everyone else first. Corey has lost points.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's right, dude.

[Randall Williams]

Seth, Giannis and Randall are all tied up with eight. Brody has nine. And in first place, double digits, Stephen Rinella has 10 points.

[Giannis Patelis]

Anybody's game, boys.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well done, Seth. Only two points.

[Randall Williams]

Thanks.

[Stephen Rinella]

He said he hasn't even been writing anything down over there.

[Spencer Newharth]

He's preserving his knowledge for future questions. When he does that. Doesn't need to use the energy. Yeah, not worth it.

[Chloe Kim]

This month, iHeartRadio is celebrating the stars of the 2026 Winter Games. Born and raised in Torrance, California, Chloe Kim returns to the half pipe to make history. After dominating the last two Olympics, she drops into the Milano Cortina put type, aiming for an unprecedented third consecutive gold medal. With her signature massive air and technical double quirks, she remains the undisputed queen of the sport. Kim is ready to prove once again that the road to the podium goes through her. For more Winter Games gold, search olympics on the iHeartRadio app.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question 6. The topic is woodsmanship. This next great question is via Scott Blueing. This porous six letter rock is lightweight and has trapped pockets of gas that allow it to float in water. Get out of here. Steve and Randall have their answers. This porous six letter rock is lightweight and has trapped pockets of gas that allow it to float in water.

[Stephen Rinella]

Woodsmanship.

[Spencer Newharth]

Someone who has a lot of woodsmanship would know this one.

[Stephen Rinella]

It's like rock. It's like similar to rockmanship.

[Spencer Newharth]

That's right. Now, Steve asked before we recorded why Nate isn't here. Nate couldn't make it to today's episode, so he just got kicked out of the whole dang tournament.

[Stephen Rinella]

So.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah.

[Stephen Rinella]

So I was wondering, it's like an invitation. It's invitational.

[Spencer Newharth]

He was invited.

[Stephen Rinella]

Is there a tournament for like the losers?

[Spencer Newharth]

We done it. We've done a Jabroni tournament in the past. Which Corey, were you the Jabroni champion?

[Corey Calkins]

That's why he's here.

[Randall Williams]

That's right.

[Stephen Rinella]

Oh, and then you earned your. You earned a seat at the invitational.

[Brody Henderson]

Sure.

[Spencer Newharth]

He's the king Jabroni. He has the Jabroni trophy in his office. You should come up and check it out. Again, we're on question six. The topic is woodsmanship. This porous six letter rock is lightweight and has trapped pockets of gas that allow it to Float in water. Brody, do you have this one right?

[Corey Calkins]

I do.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. He's gonna keep pace with Steve.

[Seth Morris]

What were the questions? What questions did we do already?

[Stephen Rinella]

You're getting beat by me, though.

[Spencer Newharth]

You're wondering what topics.

[Seth Morris]

Sealacanth.

[Spencer Newharth]

We'll do a correct answer review at the end.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Will that satisfy you?

[Stephen Rinella]

Have a question about those fish.

[Seth Morris]

It was the Lazarus species.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, it's a good question.

[Seth Morris]

I just feel like I've got.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know, I think that might have been the first time in my life I've ever heard that word pronounced.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, well, I hope I got it right. Yeah, it's a tricky one to spell. That's why you shouldn't try to Google it. If you want to see it, just go to The Mediator Podcast YouTube channel and Phil will show you one.

[Seth Morris]

Or go to YouTube and type in coelacanth commercial.

[Spencer Newharth]

When. When did this air? You think maybe it's the 10. Totally off my.

[Seth Morris]

Probably 15 years ago.

[Stephen Rinella]

What's.

[Corey Calkins]

We're really giving Yanis a lot of time in this episode.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, man. Come on, man.

[Spencer Newharth]

I imagine if you didn't know this one off the bat, you're just not going to come.

[Corey Calkins]

But sometimes something will come to you.

[Stephen Rinella]

Let's. Let's just. Come on.

[Spencer Newharth]

Ronnie.

[Randall Williams]

You give up, Randall, You've gotten five or three correct answers this game so far.

[Spencer Newharth]

Corey, do you give up? I mean, I got. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth without an answer. Set. Steve and Randall say pumice.

[Giannis Patelis]

I could have come up with.

[Spencer Newharth]

Corey says volcanic.

[Stephen Rinella]

Volcanic.

[Spencer Newharth]

Giannis without an answer. Brody says pumice. The correct answer is pumice again.

[Stephen Rinella]

I bet you his score probably just jumped, right? It climbed another point.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, that's what I was having trouble.

[Stephen Rinella]

Is that.

[Randall Williams]

Are you complaining?

[Spencer Newharth]

No, no. Pumice is a volcanic rock that's formed when magma quickly cools after an eruption. The trapped gas bubbles are called vesicles, which give it a density lower than water. This allows pumice to float, sometimes for years before they become waterlogged and sink. Pumice is commonly used in household products for skin care, cleaning and polishing, including agents that are used on gun barrels and bullets.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, and you like. Like old ladies would pump.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. Didn't know about that one. Good extra flavor.

[Stephen Rinella]

Keep a pumice stone for that purpose.

[Giannis Patelis]

I've used it.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah. Question seven. The topic is hunting. This form with a four digit name is what you fill out for the ATF when buying a firearm from a gun dealer. Randall already has his answer. This form with A four digit name is what you fill out for the ATF when buying a firearm from a gun dealer.

[Seth Morris]

Now that's a question.

[Spencer Newharth]

Steve declared he's not going to get this one.

[Randall Williams]

Remember how you accused Spencer specifically cutting.

[Spencer Newharth]

Out questions that excluding Randall questions couple.

[Seth Morris]

They actually referenced a form on not.

[Stephen Rinella]

A 1099 they referenced.

[Giannis Patelis]

That's not the right form.

[Seth Morris]

No, but it's quite close.

[Spencer Newharth]

If you remember they reference this way.

[Giannis Patelis]

I know that form, but I don't know what digit I was.

[Spencer Newharth]

Where was this form referenced at radio today?

[Brody Henderson]

We went 100.

[Seth Morris]

We went 106 minutes.

[Spencer Newharth]

I did check in at one point at like 90 minutes in you guys were still going.

[Seth Morris]

I was like oh, that's a hell of an episode.

[Spencer Newharth]

It was a long way I was working on the script yet just making sure everything was polished again. All these questions were fact checked by our very own Maggie Hug.

[Seth Morris]

We had two interviews that went an hour like, I mean combined.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay.

[Seth Morris]

Like we were an hour in and we hadn't gotten to any of our non interview material.

[Spencer Newharth]

Strong episode. This form with a four digit name is what you fill out for the ATF when buying a firearm from a gun boy.

[Giannis Patelis]

Everybody in this room has filled it out at least a dozen times.

[Spencer Newharth]

Anyone besides Randall confident in their answer?

[Corey Calkins]

No.

[Spencer Newharth]

No.

[Stephen Rinella]

Okay, well I have a vein.

[Giannis Patelis]

I know that now.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm nervous.

[Giannis Patelis]

I know that I'm one. Well, according to Randall, I'm one digit off and if I chose the right change then.

[Stephen Rinella]

One digit off.

[Corey Calkins]

Wait a minute.

[Giannis Patelis]

Because we talked about. Are you not paying attention? We talked about another form that was referenced in Meteor Radio Live today about three hours ago.

[Corey Calkins]

And Randall told you you were one digitized.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall did not say that. He didn't say you're one digit off just to be.

[Giannis Patelis]

He said it was very close.

[Spencer Newharth]

He said it was close but not before. Is everybody ready? Yeah. Go ahead and reveal your answer. Seth says 1776. Steve says 1032. Randall 44.73. Corey 1044 Giannis 4456 Brody 1060. Randall. Got it. It's a 4473.

[Stephen Rinella]

Oh, good job. I wasn't gonna get that one.

[Spencer Newharth]

The 4473 is a seven page document that has information regarding the seller, buyer and gun. About 70, 000 gun transactions are denied during this process every year, but only a couple dozen ever result in prosecutions. Hunter Biden was famously charged for lying on a 4473 when he purchased a Colt revolver in 2018. He answered no to the question that asks if you're addicted to drugs and then admitted in his 2021 biography that he uses crack cocaine. This resulted in a 2024 conviction of three federal gun violations.

[Stephen Rinella]

Well, end the story.

[Spencer Newharth]

End the story.

[Stephen Rinella]

Then his old man pardoned him.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oh, well, it was good timing.

[Stephen Rinella]

2024, the presidential pardon is a. Is a national embarrassment. I don't care. It should. The whole thing should go away.

[Spencer Newharth]

There you go.

[Stephen Rinella]

It's a national embarrassment. I can't think what was the last time someone got pardoned. And you're like, well, it sounds like a good idea.

[Spencer Newharth]

I think they should get rid of.

[Giannis Patelis]

It right after the tiger king gets out.

[Stephen Rinella]

And then.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, there you go. Question 8. The topic is public lands. Get them out. You can still see wheel ruts on the Oregon National Historic Trail from this nine letter wagon that was known for its curved floor and white canvas cover. Randall has his answer. At first I thought you're his answer.

[Seth Morris]

At first I thought you were asking for that park. And I was, I was gonna get that right.

[Randall Williams]

Oh yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

This is question eight. We will get a scoreboard update.

[Stephen Rinella]

I can't tell. What is that facial expression on Brody?

[Corey Calkins]

It's not good.

[Spencer Newharth]

You can still see the wheel ruts on the Oregon National Historic Trail from this nine letter wagon that was known for its curved floor and white canvas cover. The irony of doesn't want to get political.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah. No, I'm not going to even say it.

[Spencer Newharth]

No, go ahead. Seth. Do you have this one right?

[Randall Williams]

I think so.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay. Half of our table.

[Stephen Rinella]

The irony of a pro gun control president pardoning someone for a gun violation is just, it's like. But I'm not using this to condemn the individual.

[Spencer Newharth]

Sure.

[Stephen Rinella]

I'm using this like the presidential pardon is just a national embarrassment. There's probably some great president in the past, like the real. But back when we had like great presidents, you know, like Washington and stuff, there's probably some guy in the past that used it like nobly.

[Spencer Newharth]

Sure. Now it's every president now does the last one.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, it's an international embarrassment. If I was president, I wouldn't pardon shit. I don't care who asked.

[Seth Morris]

I think you should only get one pardon too. Like there was, there was someone recently who got pardoned in Trump one for some fraud and they committed fraud again and got convicted again and then they got a second pardon this time around.

[Stephen Rinella]

Seriously?

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Stephen Rinella]

Biden pardoned 4,000 people. Well, the pen did his auto pen. Listen, Trump's pardons are ridiculous.

[Spencer Newharth]

Oregon National.

[Stephen Rinella]

All this talk, all this Talk about like, oh, committing fraud. Commit fraud. They keep pardoning fraudsters.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

From this nine letter wagon that was known for its curved floor and white national cover.

[Randall Williams]

I like the idea of what's the national embarrassment?

[Stephen Rinella]

I'd be like, I know that one. The presidential party.

[Spencer Newharth]

We'll do a new segment on Meat Eater radio. It's called not to get political. And then it's just politics.

[Randall Williams]

I like the idea of there being one part and then it could be like the decision where everyone gathers around.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

You vote. Yeah.

[Stephen Rinella]

Gotta come to room.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, that'd be fun.

[Spencer Newharth]

Did you come up with the right answer?

[Giannis Patelis]

Sounds like great entertainment.

[Stephen Rinella]

And then you give a speech.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'll produce that show. The reality show.

[Seth Morris]

I do think, like, there is some. You could find some bipartisan. If there's one thing we should come together and agree upon is that pardons. With. With a few exceptions, I'm sure. Pardons, by and large, nobody likes it.

[Stephen Rinella]

They're just a national embarrassment.

[Seth Morris]

It's just whoever is in office, nobody likes the pardon on that side. And then the next year, nobody likes the pardons on that side.

[Stephen Rinella]

That's what I'm saying. When I say I don't want to get political, what I mean is I don't want to come again like that. Biden abused it and Trump doesn't abuse it. I mean, it's just like, it's just abused. And. And if I was president on all honesty, I'd be like, I'm going to pardon people I like. It's too tempting.

[Spencer Newharth]

I think that's one too many.

[Stephen Rinella]

I'm gonna pardon people that pay me money.

[Spencer Newharth]

Anyway, we're on question eight. You can still see wheel rots on the Oregon National Historic Trail from this nine letter wagon, known for its curved floor and white canvas colors. White canvas covers. Everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth.

[Randall Williams]

Nope.

[Spencer Newharth]

And Randall saying Conestoga. Corey says Volkswagen. Come on, baby.

[Stephen Rinella]

Giannis's answer stuttered.

[Spencer Newharth]

Hey, you know what, man?

[Seth Morris]

That's a great.

[Stephen Rinella]

You should patent that. Because when they come out with a electric car. Yeah, Electric. The Volts wagon.

[Spencer Newharth]

The correct answer is the Conestoga. But, Cory, it's not as dumb as it seems because there was a Studebaker wagon which inspired the name for the future automobile, the Studebaker stogies.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know, stogies? That comes from Conestoga. Smoking a stogie.

[Randall Williams]

So how do you. We all spelled it differently.

[Spencer Newharth]

What's the right C, O, N, E.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

The massive Conestoga wagon was the largest vehicle that traveled the Oregon Trail. At 18ft long and 17ft high, the 5 ton wagon required up to a dozen horses or half a dozen oxen to pull it. Unlike its depiction in the Oregon Trail video game, the Conestoga was used to move freights, not families, across the country. And Phil has a photo of some of those wheel rods. That's in southeast Wyoming. There's of the Conestoga wagon on the Oregon Trail.

[Stephen Rinella]

Yeah, I think there's some near.

[Giannis Patelis]

No photo of the wagon though.

[Spencer Newharth]

Veteran fight, no photo of the wagon. I think you could use your imagination to see the Conestoga. Phil, please give us a scoreboard update. We have two questions left in round two.

[Randall Williams]

I didn't hear Brody's answer.

[Spencer Newharth]

I already did not get.

[Randall Williams]

Okay, sorry. I hate doing that, but oh well. Looks like Steve's put some distance between himself and came into this game tied to it.

[Spencer Newharth]

A little some little knit.

[Randall Williams]

But everyone else first. We've got Corey with six points. Giannis now has eight. It's fallen back.

[Giannis Patelis]

I got one right so far today.

[Spencer Newharth]

If anybody's counting the chair.

[Giannis Patelis]

Huh? It could be the chair.

[Stephen Rinella]

My blood pressure so high about those pardons, dude, I'm together.

[Randall Williams]

Seth Morris has nine points, Brody has 10, Randall has 11, and in first place is Stephen Rilla with 12 points.

[Spencer Newharth]

Points going into question.

[Stephen Rinella]

The other thing about that, it's like you picture that you picture that you have pardon authority. You have pardon authority. So here are you the president, you're Trump, you got pardon authority and you're like, I've surveyed the entire country. I've talked to every jailkeeper in the country trying to find the person most unjustly imprisoned.

[Chloe Kim]

And guess what?

[Stephen Rinella]

It was one of my donors.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

What a coincidence.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know what I'm saying? It just is such a con.

[Spencer Newharth]

Question 9. The topic is conservation. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Neil Middleburg for sending this great question. Neil is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week and send your question to trivia.com the Blank Blank League of America is a conservation group that's named after the man who wrote the complete angler in 1653. The blank blank League of America is a conservation group that's named after the man who wrote the complete angler in 1653. Who's nipping at my heels right now, me.

[Randall Williams]

Randall has 11 and Brody has 10.

[Spencer Newharth]

Between you and Randall, two. Between you and Brody.

[Stephen Rinella]

Did you write anything down?

[Spencer Newharth]

16.

[Corey Calkins]

I wrote the right answer.

[Spencer Newharth]

I don't like these.

[Stephen Rinella]

These boards that have like. They don't have a back. It's hard to tell what's going on now.

[Spencer Newharth]

Neil won our Listener Question of the week for sending this question. He sent this question in 2022. And I've been holding on to it ever since then. Four years this question has been marinating in our inbox in my Google Docs. And today was the day. He's at home. Honey.

[Stephen Rinella]

Honey. Wake up.

[Spencer Newharth]

I can't believe it. So don't be disappointed. If you send in a question you don't hear it for weeks or months or years. Because you could be like Neil and win our listener question of the week. The Blank Blank.

[Giannis Patelis]

Corey again. As a of America's Fly fishing guide.

[Spencer Newharth]

He's a conservation group that's named after the man who.

[Giannis Patelis]

What did you talk to your clients about?

[Spencer Newharth]

1653?

[Stephen Rinella]

Apparently not.

[Spencer Newharth]

Just casting off the wrong side of the boat most of the time. The other left. Roll.

[Seth Morris]

Men.

[Spencer Newharth]

No mending. Mending is a waste of time.

[Seth Morris]

No. That's the perfect tone to say. No Men. No mending.

[Spencer Newharth]

Don't do it. We have four players who think they have this one right. Then Cory and Seth. Man.

[Seth Morris]

We're getting out of here just in time. Because I'm. That sandwich is doing things.

[Spencer Newharth]

I warned my wife today that today is probably a getting a beer after work day. Are you in? Randall.

[Seth Morris]

Do you guys do that?

[Giannis Patelis]

How did you know?

[Spencer Newharth]

This morning It's a Thursday. We're recording trivia that's gonna end at like 3pm 78. That has all the ingredients. The weather's beautiful.

[Seth Morris]

We carpooled today. So I just read.

[Spencer Newharth]

Your wife can come as well.

[Corey Calkins]

I just read an article that said the alcohol industry is losing billions of dollars Cuz your generation.

[Randall Williams]

Obviously we're millennials.

[Spencer Newharth]

I'm a millennial. I think it's Gen Z who's crushing the brewery industry. Again. The blank. Okay.

[Seth Morris]

Phil is going to be yesterday's beers pecking at the back of my eyeballs.

[Spencer Newharth]

Randall's holding up the millennium.

[Stephen Rinella]

We went out to dare Kylie and her husband last night. That was fun.

[Spencer Newharth]

One. Is everybody ready? The Blank Blank League of America is a conservation group that's named after the man who wrote the complete angler in 1653. Go ahead and reveal your answer. Seth without an answer. Steve and Randall say Isaac Walton. Corey without an answer. Giannis and Brody say Isaac Walton. The correct answer is Isaac Walton. That's I Z A A K. Isaac Walton. The Isaac Walton League of America was created in 1922 to protect natural resources and encourage outdoor recreation. The Chicago sportsman who founded it decided to name it after Isaac Walton, who is known as the father of fly fishing. Some of their notable actions include purchasing several thousand acres of land in Wyoming to save elk habitat around Jackson Hole and draft federal law that prevented damming in Minnesota's boundary waters.

[Giannis Patelis]

I forget what I used to always quote from Isaac Walton.

[Randall Williams]

Do you ever.

[Stephen Rinella]

Did he get sir? Did he get knighted?

[Spencer Newharth]

He was English.

[Corey Calkins]

I think he might have been a sir. Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

All right, here's a correct answer review so far. One was that 43 of Americans ate wild game in the last year. Everybody loved that. Question two was willow blade. Three, cackling goose. Oh, that's four Lazarus species. Five, California is home to Mount Shasta. Six, pumice seven. 44, 73. Form. Eight, Conestoga wagon. Nine, Isaac Walton. Phil, let's get a scoreboard update before questions.

[Stephen Rinella]

Man, I gotta hand it to you for getting that form.

[Seth Morris]

Well, you know, what's a. You know what I love to do.

[Stephen Rinella]

Is get them right.

[Seth Morris]

That's true. But I also love to, like, if you. If you're talking about, you know, people go in, they're like, oh, I got a hold on my background check. Just seeing it went through. If you go into the gun store and you're like, like, yeah, I got a hold on my 4, 4, 7, 3.

[Stephen Rinella]

Well, I'll clear that right up for you, sir.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, like, if you drop the form name, they're like, oh, this guy. Maybe this guy isn't just like a basement Rambo.

[Spencer Newharth]

Phil, give us a scoreboard update.

[Randall Williams]

Yes. Corey's still hanging back there at six. We've got Seth and Giannis with nine points tied up. Brody has 11, Randall has 12. And still in first place, lucky number 13, Steven Rinella.

[Spencer Newharth]

Here's question 10 to end round two. The topic is wildlife.

[Stephen Rinella]

I think we should just go for it. Finish the sucker up right now.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newharth]

Name the two countries with the highest population of wolves. Oh, that sounded. I know what letter that sounded like. Name the two countries with the highest population of wolves. Randall has his answer down.

[Stephen Rinella]

Gotta get them both.

[Spencer Newharth]

Gotta get both of them. We're making you earn it here. I think you should go with question 20. No, we're gonna do both. This is question 20 of the fourth annual Meat Eater Trivia Tournament. We're gonna see who knows their wildlife. Name the two countries with the highest population of wolves. Randall had his answer right away. Steve is still thinking this could tie them up. If Randall Gets it right and Steve gets it wrong. Yanni, do you like your answer?

[Giannis Patelis]

I do like my answer.

[Spencer Newharth]

Kind of a disappointing day for you today. Yeah, it's gonna be hard to catch.

[Giannis Patelis]

Possibly my worst round of trivia ever.

[Spencer Newharth]

Wow, it's gonna be tough to catch up.

[Giannis Patelis]

Bad data.

[Spencer Newharth]

Round 3.

[Giannis Patelis]

Have your worst round ever.

[Spencer Newharth]

Well, those beers will taste extra good after this.

[Giannis Patelis]

Then I'm out. I have response. Parental responsibilities.

[Spencer Newharth]

Name the two countries with the highest population of wolves. Corey, you could go for a beer, right? Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Because I got parent responsibilities. Yeah, that's why he needs that beer.

[Seth Morris]

You're leaving Phil hanging.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, oh.

[Seth Morris]

I shouldn't put my hand in front of the camera like that.

[Spencer Newharth]

Two countries with the highest population of wolves. Steve, are you struggling to come up with a second or are you struggling to eliminate a third? Which one is it?

[Stephen Rinella]

That's a good. That's a good way of thinking about it. I'm struggling to. I'm struggling with who to eliminate.

[Spencer Newharth]

Okay, Seth, are you ready?

[Seth Morris]

I'm basing this on nothing.

[Spencer Newharth]

Seth.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, Seth is at least playing.

[Spencer Newharth]

He's playing right down two countries. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Russia and Canada. Steve says Canada and Russia. Randall. Canada and Russia. Corey, Canada and Russia. Giannis, Russia.

[Giannis Patelis]

Canada.

[Spencer Newharth]

Brody, Canada, US Might be a good move.

[Stephen Rinella]

Could be a good move.

[Spencer Newharth]

Correct answer is Canada and Russia.

[Stephen Rinella]

Everybody nipping at my heels, man.

[Spencer Newharth]

Got that one right. It's believed that Russia has 70,000 wolves, although some estimates say their population is as high as a few hundred thousand. Canada has about 55,000 wolves, and amazingly, they occupy 90% of their historic range. The next countries with the highest wolf population are Mongolia and the United states with about 20,000. Then Kazakhstan, China and Turkey with about 10,000. At the bottom of the are Belgium, Mexico and Lebanon with a few dozen wolves.

[Stephen Rinella]

You know, man, just for funsies, I was thinking about throwing Romania in there, but just to make a point.

[Spencer Newharth]

Point being what?

[Stephen Rinella]

To be like people. Be like, I can't believe that dude knew that there was wolves in Romania.

[Spencer Newharth]

Yeah, okay. All right, Phil, give us one last scoreboard Update before round three.

[Randall Williams]

Corey Calkins has seven points. Seth Morris has 10 points along with Giannis Patelis. Brody Henderson has 11, Randall Williams has 13. Stephen Rinella is currently in first place. 14 points.

[Spencer Newharth]

It is literally anybody's game, but it's sort of a two horse race at this point between.

[Stephen Rinella]

I feel like Brian Harmon going into like.

[Seth Morris]

Do you mind if I ask you a question?

[Stephen Rinella]

Hole on the Wimbledon.

[Spencer Newharth]

Dude, do you believe the miracle.

[Giannis Patelis]

That was a joke. Good job, Stacey. Good joke. That was a good joke.

[Spencer Newharth]

Join us next week for round three of the Meat Eater Trivia tournament where we will crown a champion. It's the only game show where conservation always wins.

[Randall Williams]

Thanks.

[Stephen Rinella]

Spencer Masters, 14.

[Spencer Newharth]

Love your deuce.

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down.

[Spencer Newharth]

And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks.

[Corey Calkins]

And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

[Brody Henderson]

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[Stephen Rinella]

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