Ep. 843: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCVI

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast – Ep. 843: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCVI

Date: March 4, 2026
Host: Brody Henderson (guest hosting for Steven Rinella)
Participants: Giannis Patelis, Spencer Newhor, Randall Williams, Alyssa Smith, Seth Morris, Corey Calkins

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Episode Theme:

Nature Meets Game Show: A Trivia Throwdown with Conservation at the Heart

The heart and humor of the MeatEater Podcast shine in this lively trivia contest, where outdoor expertise, conservation curiosity, and a bit of competitive banter drive the show. Each correct answer turns knowledge into action, with a $500 donation to a conservation charity chosen by the winner.
This episode features a crew of familiar MeatEater voices tackling brain-teasers across hunting, fishing, conservation, ecology, cooking, and more. It’s smart, irreverent, and full of the camaraderie fans expect.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking Off the Trivia (01:23–06:39)

• Host Introduction & Format:
  • Brody Henderson guest-hosts a 10-question, multi-category trivia game.
  • The group jokes about past sales of gear (rifles, bear rugs) on potential classifieds segments for the show.
• Showmanship & Banter:
  • Immediate playful ribbing sets the tone.
  • “This is the only game show where conservation wins.”
    — Brody Henderson (01:54)
• Trivia Stats:
  • Brody shares that when he guest-hosts, the average correct answers per person drop (04:14–04:51).

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2. Early Rounds: Conservation & Ecology (06:39–13:06)

Question 1: Most Fish and Game Wardens (07:00–08:20)

• Q: Which state employs the most fish and game wardens?
• A: Florida (Approx. 700–800 officers, more than Texas or Pennsylvania).

Question 2: Alpine Tundra States East of the Mississippi (09:32–12:12)

• Q: Name two of the only four states east of the Mississippi with alpine tundra.
• A: New York, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine.
• Insight: These rare ecosystems are remnants of the last ice age, typically only found above 4,000 feet, now under significant pressure.
• Quote:
  “These fragile sky island ecosystems are remnants of the last ice age… shrinking, not doing well. So they need to preserve it.”
  — Brody Henderson (13:06)
• Memorable Banter:
  Spencer admits his answer was almost Minnesota, with fact-checking tension from others (11:25–11:40).

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3. Wildlife & Field Skills (13:06–19:37)

Question 3: Grouse Breeding Grounds (14:02–15:24)

• Q: What are sage and sharp-tail grouse mating areas called?
• A: Lek (“from the Swedish word for child’s play/game”).

Question 4: Fly Fishing Hack (16:07–19:12)

• Q: What pantry item prevents rod guides from icing?
• A: Pam cooking spray.
• Discussion:
  Chapstick and Crisco are debated, but Pam is cited as the standard.
• Quote:
  “Fly fishermen use… Pam cooking spray primarily as an anti-icing agent…”
  — Brody Henderson (19:12)

Question 5: Tarpon Behavior (20:04–22:13)

• Q: What’s the two-word term for tarpon’s circular pre-spawn swimming?
• A: Daisy chain.
• Trivia Context:
  The answer stumps many—emphasizing how often niche field experiences yield trivia gold.

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4. Halftime Standings & Field Stories (22:24–24:27)

• Scoreboard at Half (22:28):
  • Giannis & Randall: 3
  • Seth, Spencer, Alyssa: 2
  • Corey: 0
• Field Tales:
  Spencer describes upcoming tarpon flats fishing, noting most people “don’t eat tarpon” and they were once used for cat food (24:11).

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5. Deeper Knowledge: Conservation, Ducks, Evolution (26:07–34:36)

Question 6: CWD “Endemic Zone” (26:07–29:30)

• Q: Seven-letter word for the area where chronic wasting disease was first documented?
• A: Endemic.
• Educational Dive:
  Brody provides a mini-history of CWD origins (29:00).

Question 7: Gray Duck ID (29:31–31:32)

• Q: Dabbler duck aka “gray duck”?
• A: Gadwall.
• Fun Fact:
  Gadwalls are “pirates of the lakes,” known for stealing food from other ducks.

Question 8: Pronghorn’s Closest African Relative (32:30–34:36)

• Q: Closest living African relative to the pronghorn?
• A: Giraffe.
• Quote:
  “Giraffe, brother. Pronghorns are the last remaining member of the family Antilocapridae, with their closest living relatives being giraffes.”
  — Brody Henderson (34:40)

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6. Machines, Records, & Endgame (35:01–46:48)

Question 9: Legendary Bush Plane Manufacturer (35:48–39:22)

• Q: Who made the Beaver and Otter float planes?
• A: de Havilland Aircraft Company.
• Discussion:
  Participants share stories of riding these legendary northern bush planes, noting the mix of classic controls and modern tech (38:28–39:28).

Question 10: World Record Smallmouth Bass States (42:07–45:27)

• Q: Which two states claim the world record smallmouth?
• A: Tennessee and Kentucky (Dale Hollow Lake, 11lb 15oz, caught 1955).
• Scandal:
  The original catch was contested with allegations of added weights, later dismissed, so both states get bragging rights (45:27–46:23).

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7. Highlights, Quotes & Moments of Note

• On the Difficulty of Guest Hosts:
  “It’s probably going to be hard. So just, like, bite the bullet and suck it up.”
  — Brody Henderson (04:50)
• Grouse Mating Grounds:
  “Lek is the correct answer…which refers to child’s play or a game.”
  — Brody Henderson (15:24)
• Wild Disbelief:
  “Giraffe, brother…that’s a wild animal.”
  — Randall Williams (34:31–34:32)
• Unique Fact:
  “Gadwall…the pirate of the lakes, derived from their behavior of stealing food from other birds.”
  — Brody Henderson (31:32)

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8. Closing & Winner Announcement (46:48–48:15)

• Randall Williams clinches the win with 7 out of 10, donating $500 to Coastal Conservation Association:
  • “Let’s send this money to the Coastal Conservation Association…a group that works on fisheries issues, I believe specifically in the Gulf.”
    — Randall Williams (47:12)
  • Randall’s victory speech is tinged with humility, noting it’s been a long time since he won a round (47:47–48:15).

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9. Bonus Tiebreak — Mount Marcy, NY Elevation (48:17–49:57)

• Fun Finale:
  The crew humorously fakes a tiebreak.
  • Mount Marcy’s elevation: 5,344 feet (Randall gets closest).

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Top Memorable Quotes

• “This is the only game show where conservation wins.” — Brody Henderson (01:54)
• “Mount Marcy…Randall might be running away.” — Giannis Patelis, ribbing Randall on his knowledge (34:36)
• “I’ve drowned and then settled into the bottom of the lake, and sediment has landed on top of me…Very close to fossilization.” — Randall Williams, on his long trivia dry spell (48:00)
• “Lek is the correct answer. The term comes from the Swedish word lek…child’s play or a game.” (15:24)
• “Gadwall…pirate of the lakes, derived from their behavior of stealing food from other birds.” (31:32)
• “Giraffe, brother…pronghorn’s closest living relatives are giraffes.” (34:40)

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Scoreboard Recap

| Participant | Correct Answers | |---------------------|----------------| | Randall Williams | 7 | | Seth Morris | 5 | | Giannis Patelis | 4 | | Spencer Newhor | 3 | | Alyssa Smith | 2 | | Corey Calkins | 0 |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:23 – Show/Trivia format intro, roster, banter
• 07:00 – Q1: Most Fish/Game Wardens
• 09:32 – Q2: Alpine Tundra States
• 14:02 – Q3: Grouse Lek
• 16:07 – Q4: Pam for frozen guides
• 20:04 – Q5: Daisy Chain tarpon
• 26:07 – Q6: CWD Endemic Zone
• 29:31 – Q7: Gray Duck = Gadwall
• 32:30 – Q8: Pronghorn Relative
• 35:48 – Q9: Beaver & Otter Bush Planes
• 42:07 – Q10: Smallmouth Bass Record States
• 46:48 – Winner announced, charity chosen

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Tone & Final Thoughts

The banter is playful, competitive, and sometimes self-deprecating. Participants poke fun, share trivia-adjacent field stories, and remind listeners that—win or lose—having deep, sometimes arcane knowledge of the outdoors is its own reward. Randall gets a triumphant return to the winner’s circle, and conservation wins again.

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For fans of trivia, conservation, and smart outdoor talk, this episode delivers a fun, fact-packed ride.

Transcript

[Brody Henderson]

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[Brody Henderson]

It's a meat Eater podcast. We ready, Phil?

[Randall Williams]

You're also thinking of one bourbon, one shot, one beer.

[Alyssa Smith]

Yes, we're ready, bro.

[Seth Morris]

I hope these are all efficient questions.

[Giannis Patelis]

That's those are Eric Church lyrics, but I don't know if they're One bourbon,

[Randall Williams]

one scotch, one beer.

[Seth Morris]

All right, Brody, take it away.

[Brody Henderson]

You done, Randall?

[Randall Williams]

I was waiting for you.

[Brody Henderson]

Whoa. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the R rated version from Randall.

[Seth Morris]

Good thing HR's here.

[Randall Williams]

You son of a.

[Brody Henderson]

It's not me swearing, kids. It's that one over there. This is the only game show where conservation wins.

[Alyssa Smith]

Nope, it's staying in.

[Brody Henderson]

All right,

[Spencer Newhor]

tighten it up, Randall man.

[Brody Henderson]

I'm your host, Brody Henderson and I'm joined today by Giannis Patel, Spencer Newhor, Potty Mouth, Randall Williams, Alyssa Smith, Seth Morris and Corey ckins. It's a 10 round quiz show with questions from media four verticals, kind of usually sort of which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. I don't think I have a cooking

[Spencer Newhor]

con con that's not good for me.

[Brody Henderson]

There's a prize. Meat eater will donate 500 bucks to the conservation organization of the winners choosing if a queue. I didn't have any because I like put this script together like 30 minutes ago. So Spencer sent me one and Giannis, our listeners are Dying to know if you sold your beloved 656-5-sweet 655 Swede.

[Spencer Newhor]

That's right. I sure did.

[Giannis Patelis]

You did?

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

Thanks to this Year podcast. Oh, yeah.

[Spencer Newhor]

A couple people wrote in, and the second guy that wrote in was one person too late. One email too late.

[Giannis Patelis]

Really.

[Spencer Newhor]

And yeah, it was real easy transaction. He said, what do you want for it? I told him how much I paid for it, how much I needed to get out of it, and he's like, all right, sounds good. I sent it off to Pennsylvania.

[Brody Henderson]

Did you sell it with optics or.

[Spencer Newhor]

No, I did. It had, you know, nothing fancy of a scope on it and just left it on there and gave it to the guy. Kind of freebie.

[Brody Henderson]

Nice.

[Randall Williams]

That's great.

[Giannis Patelis]

Meat Eater Radio wasn't dying this week. I was gonna pitch a segment someday. That'd just be the classifieds, like, so and so has a boat.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, dude, I got all kinds of stuff I need to sell. Can we do that anyway?

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah, on the news show. Maybe the news show will have classifieds. And like, so and so in Maine needs a hunting partner for duck season. We're gonna solve some stuff.

[Brody Henderson]

You need a sweet bear rug. Call the boys at the Meat Eater flagship store.

[Giannis Patelis]

They're selling one or what?

[Brody Henderson]

Selling mine. Oh, one of mine. In this, you only need one, which I found out after I had two.

[Spencer Newhor]

How much are you asking?

[Brody Henderson]

I'm not. We're not gonna skip price here.

[Randall Williams]

It's perfect for your second home in Montana.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Listeners.

[Brody Henderson]

All right, before we get on to the questions, like I said, I just finished this script about 30, 40 minutes ago, so I don't have, like, a carry index, but I do have a stat of the week related to that, which is when Spencer hosts, the Average player gets 5.05 questions. Right. When there's a guest host like myself, the Average person gets 4.04 questions. Right. So a whole point less when there's a guest host. So it's. It's probably going to be hard. So just, like, bite the bullet and suck it up.

[Randall Williams]

But this is also really hastily prepared.

[Brody Henderson]

Well, we'll see.

[Spencer Newhor]

Do you try to pitch easier questions knowing that we usually, as guest hosts, make harder ones?

[Brody Henderson]

No, I'm not going to, like, just set you up with a bunch of, like, softballs.

[Spencer Newhor]

No, I know. But it's no fun if it's super hard for everybody. And so I try to be in somewhere in between, but yeah, I think obviously we all still end up pitching too hard.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, Well, I mean, I think so.

[Spencer Newhor]

You didn't think about that.

[Brody Henderson]

That's got to learn more, I guess. It's a tough batch, but I. It's weird. This is the weird part. You say the average player, but what's that mean? Every person in the room, Average number of questions, average that are correct. Correct.

[Giannis Patelis]

It's the same thing. Yeah. So that's 5.05 correct.

[Brody Henderson]

I know, but I think it should

[Randall Williams]

be the average of the top three players.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, it'd be. It'd be higher, I bet. Yeah, probably a question higher.

[Spencer Newhor]

It might be different. Maybe. Maybe they get more answers.

[Seth Morris]

Correct.

[Giannis Patelis]

We'll have more stats next time there's a guest host to show you guys that it's harder.

[Brody Henderson]

All right. Play the drop, Phil.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, don't sound so excited, Brody.

[Alyssa Smith]

Normally, Spencer gives me some Runway.

[Brody Henderson]

No, I'm not Spencer.

[Seth Morris]

Phil's just totally blindsided.

[Spencer Newhor]

What I stand.

[Brody Henderson]

Like. My goal is not to, like, host like Spencer. Be on your toes.

[Giannis Patelis]

Game on, suckers.

[Seth Morris]

That's you, bro.

[Alyssa Smith]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

I can't hear. Is it over yet? Y. It's over. All right, here we go. Here we go.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

I hate this trend.

[Alyssa Smith]

That's Steve has started.

[Spencer Newhor]

He's.

[Alyssa Smith]

He's gotten everyone to mutiny with. Against the headphones.

[Brody Henderson]

Sometimes they're. I'm anti headphone now.

[Seth Morris]

Listen when we're doing this. Headphones. I can't wear headphones when Steve's in here because he's loud. He's just in the mic talking the whole time.

[Brody Henderson]

I can't think anyway.

[Seth Morris]

Go ahead, Brody.

[Brody Henderson]

You keep them on. Seth, do what makes you feel good about yourself. All right, first question is conservation. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, this state has the most fish and game wardens. Is it A, Pennsylvania, B, Washington, C, Texas, or D, Florida?

[Corey Calkins]

That's a great question.

[Seth Morris]

That is a great.

[Brody Henderson]

Which state has the most fish and game wardens? Pennsylvania, Washington, Texas, or Florida? Yes. You wrote an answer down right away. It's unlike you.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

Well, I just had a gut.

[Spencer Newhor]

Gut feeling.

[Brody Henderson]

Gotta go with it. You are wearing the lucky can am hat, too. That might. Might give you some extra powers.

[Spencer Newhor]

Better start thinking where I'm gonna donate my winnings.

[Brody Henderson]

Everyone got an answer? Yeah. All right, flip them over. We got Giannis with Pennsylvania. Seth, Pennsylvania. Randall, Texas. Corey, Texas. Alyssa, Texas. Spencer, Florida.

[Seth Morris]

Whoa.

[Brody Henderson]

We have a correct answer.

[Seth Morris]

Yep.

[Brody Henderson]

Spencer. It's Florida.

[Alyssa Smith]

It's happening again.

[Brody Henderson]

According to the latest Bureau of Labor statistics data from May 2023, the states with the highest employment levels for fish and game war, Florida, with seven to 800 officers, Texas, 480 to 500 officers. New York, 390 to 400. Tennessee, which is kind of a surprise. 350 to 370. North Carolina, 370. And California, 300 to 350.

[Giannis Patelis]

So what are one and two? What are the numbers?

[Brody Henderson]

Florida and Texas. Florida, seven to 800. Texas, around 500. All right.

[Spencer Newhor]

Wow. I just figured in Pennsylvania, you got

[Brody Henderson]

to take into concern all that coastline that you got to patrol.

[Randall Williams]

Texas got some coastline, too.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, they do. They do.

[Randall Williams]

And a lot of land.

[Giannis Patelis]

200 fewer game wardens, small government.

[Brody Henderson]

All right, Spencer got it right. It wasn't that hard.

[Spencer Newhor]

It's almost like Spencer knew that question.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, question number two. Ecology. Oh. Name two of the only four states east of the Mississippi river with alpine tundra environs.

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Environments.

[Spencer Newhor]

I like this question, too. Did you write this?

[Brody Henderson]

Sure did.

[Giannis Patelis]

Alpine tundra.

[Brody Henderson]

There are four states east of the Mississippi that have alpine tundra. Name two of them. Corey struggles with geography outside of Montana.

[Seth Morris]

This is true. Really?

[Corey Calkins]

Anywhere east of here?

[Giannis Patelis]

I will admit we can never have a map in the meat eater trivia studio because Corey asks for it every time. Yep, there's geography involved.

[Brody Henderson]

Alyssa, how you feeling about your answer?

[Giannis Patelis]

I don't know.

[Brody Henderson]

Anyone feeling good.

[Giannis Patelis]

This is a great question, Brody. I'm jealous I didn't think of this.

[Brody Henderson]

Thank you.

[Spencer Newhor]

Hold on, hold on.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, you got time, Giannis. Take your time. Take your time.

[Randall Williams]

Boy, I keep going back and forth. Geez, what will I think of?

[Brody Henderson]

Are we ready? Does anyone need a stall for time?

[Randall Williams]

No.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, flip them over. Giannis says Vermont and New York. Seth? West Virginia and Virginia. Randall? Maine and New Hampshire. Corey? Maine in Michigan. Alyssa? Maine and Vermont. Spencer? New Hampshire and Vermont. We had some correct answers. The four states are New York, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Minnesota. Do you need. Not Minnesota, man. Oh, jeez.

[Spencer Newhor]

Dang.

[Brody Henderson]

That was my name.

[Randall Williams]

I was gonna say Mount Katahdin.

[Brody Henderson]

Phil, do you need people to raise their hands if they.

[Spencer Newhor]

No.

[Alyssa Smith]

Cause I think when I saw that you put Minnesota, and I was like, I'm not sure that's correct.

[Brody Henderson]

So I was counting. I just had the wrong.

[Alyssa Smith]

Oh.

[Randall Williams]

I got angry.

[Alyssa Smith]

I think I got the right ones, so.

[Brody Henderson]

All right.

[Alyssa Smith]

Gotta control my Giannis, Randall, Alyssa, and Spencer.

[Randall Williams]

I gotta control my. My heart right now.

[Seth Morris]

Here's a little.

[Brody Henderson]

Little flavor text. New Hampshire hosts the largest amount of alpine tundra in the northeastern US Particularly on Mount Washington and the surrounding summits. In the presidential reign, Maine contains significant alpine tundra. On Mount Katodin, New York features small, isolated patches alpine tundra Limited exclusively to the highest peaks of the Adirondack Mountains.

[Randall Williams]

Mount Marcy.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

And. Sorry. Well, I'm just trying to read. Man contains. Vermont contains the smallest amount of the four. With less than 125 acres of alpine tundra remaining. These fragile sky island ecosystems are remnants of the last ice age, often found above 4,000ft in elevation. Cool.

[Seth Morris]

I just saw some Instagram. It must be BS because there was. I saw things said, like in Shenandoah, which is. Isn't that Virginia?

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah.

[Seth Morris]

That there's some of the same alpine tundra as in Alaska.

[Brody Henderson]

Really?

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

I don't think so.

[Alyssa Smith]

That's why.

[Randall Williams]

That's why I put Instagram.

[Spencer Newhor]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhor]

On the Internet.

[Brody Henderson]

We can double check it, but I'm pretty sure this is.

[Randall Williams]

I think it's a good question.

[Seth Morris]

Could totally be wrong.

[Alyssa Smith]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

This stuff's under. This environment's under a lot of pressure right now. It's shrinking, not doing well. So they need to preserve it. Moving on. You guys don't seem too concerned about the alpine tundra.

[Randall Williams]

I was told to shut up, so.

[Brody Henderson]

Well, you know, it is a little difficult reading when someone interrupts you in the middle of a question sometimes. You know, we do that to Spencer, so I'll let it slide.

[Giannis Patelis]

He's just giving you more flavor. Text.

[Brody Henderson]

I know.

[Giannis Patelis]

Mount Marcy.

[Randall Williams]

I thought you were gonna ask. I thought you're gonna ask.

[Brody Henderson]

I have something about Mount Marcy. Later.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh.

[Alyssa Smith]

If.

[Brody Henderson]

If we get to it. If we get to it. That's why I didn't want to acknowledge.

[Seth Morris]

What state's that in again?

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Where is that not. Doesn't matter.

[Alyssa Smith]

Vermont.

[Seth Morris]

One of those.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah.

[Seth Morris]

New Hampshire. Maine.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay. Jeez. This is one of your best. Next question is about ornithology.

[Giannis Patelis]

Never had that as a category.

[Brody Henderson]

What are sage and sharp tail grouse breeding areas called? Oh, man. It's that time of year. That time of year where we're getting to. To the show.

[Randall Williams]

I'm excited

[Spencer Newhor]

to go and see some.

[Randall Williams]

I'd love to.

[Spencer Newhor]

Reading.

[Randall Williams]

I'd love to.

[Spencer Newhor]

I know a couple of spots.

[Brody Henderson]

Mm.

[Alyssa Smith]

Same.

[Randall Williams]

Look at some of those feathery kickballs out on the prairie.

[Seth Morris]

They do their little thing.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah. The sharp tails get real crazy.

[Spencer Newhor]

Pretty much like watching miniature turkeys.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, same thing. Everyone ready?

[Spencer Newhor]

Yes, sir.

[Brody Henderson]

All right, flip them over. Lek, lek, lek. Dance floor. Nothing. Dance floor. Okay. Lek is the correct answer. The term comes from the Swedish word lek. Imagine that. Which refers to child's play or a game. It describes the communal mating ritual where male grouse gather in open areas to perform energetic strutting and dancing displays to impress the female.

[Giannis Patelis]

How do you spell lick?

[Corey Calkins]

L E K. The grouse call it a dance floor.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, I bet you they do. We should. We should have had a video with a little dance accompanying.

[Randall Williams]

If we'd had more time to prepare, we would have done that.

[Giannis Patelis]

I did ask Brody to host this episode one business day ago. So Brody. Brody's just doing me a big favor here. Yeah, this is a killer batch of questions.

[Brody Henderson]

You guys have been spending so much time preparing for that last episode of Radio Live. It's don't have time to do anything else. All right, number four, fishing. I have a feeling this one's going to cause some. Some trouble.

[Seth Morris]

Oh, good.

[Brody Henderson]

For some people.

[Seth Morris]

So it's not. It's not going to have anything to do with.

[Brody Henderson]

Some people might not like it. I don't know, but I like it.

[Spencer Newhor]

Okay.

[Brody Henderson]

It's actually fishing in cooking even a little bit.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, okay.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay. So I do have a cooking question. So there you go. Okay. The question is, fly fishermen use this pantry item to prevent the guides on their rods from icing up. Huh.

[Alyssa Smith]

Do they?

[Giannis Patelis]

Now, Seth knows this.

[Seth Morris]

I don't know if the fly fishermen

[Spencer Newhor]

use it, but you notice that how in Montana, the five fishing guides don't work in the winter. Really?

[Brody Henderson]

I know. It's like it just stops.

[Corey Calkins]

Oh, yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Give them a break.

[Seth Morris]

They all go to.

[Brody Henderson]

They all go like up on Missouri or over on the spring.

[Randall Williams]

You gotta go rip the deep.

[Corey Calkins]

Worked it myself, you know, DIY if you will.

[Brody Henderson]

A lot of man. In some ways, I liked winter g better than the summer stuff.

[Corey Calkins]

More hardcore angles.

[Giannis Patelis]

You have this random.

[Brody Henderson]

Just chill.

[Seth Morris]

Think so, do you, Spencer?

[Giannis Patelis]

No, I mean, I, I.

[Brody Henderson]

You guys can chitchat for more time. Fly fishermen use this pantry item to prevent the guides on their rods from icing up.

[Randall Williams]

Interesting.

[Brody Henderson]

Anyone feeling good about it?

[Seth Morris]

Yeah. I mean, I saw a guy doing this the other day.

[Brody Henderson]

Nice.

[Corey Calkins]

Really?

[Randall Williams]

She.

[Seth Morris]

Hopefully it's the same pantry item that you have.

[Spencer Newhor]

How did you know? He had this pantry item that he was doing putting. And he's putting it on his. Guys. Did he have.

[Randall Williams]

Let's not get into that container.

[Spencer Newhor]

That said the brand.

[Seth Morris]

We'll wait for bro.

[Spencer Newhor]

Yep.

[Brody Henderson]

Everyone ready? Okay. No, go ahead. You got time. Give you some time.

[Corey Calkins]

Throw something down there.

[Brody Henderson]

I, I don't know.

[Giannis Patelis]

Seth made me less confident.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

I can't picture seeing someone do this. Flip them over knowing that they were doing this.

[Brody Henderson]

Crisco says Yana says Crisco Seth says Pam, Randall says Pam, Corey says oil. What are they? Alyssa says. Pam says olive oil. We had some people get it right. It's Pam cooking sp.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

I used Crisco, which is what it's.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. Spray olive oil.

[Alyssa Smith]

It's not olive.

[Brody Henderson]

It's not olive oil.

[Alyssa Smith]

I think it's canola.

[Brody Henderson]

It's not motor oil. It's not like you would put motor oil gear oil in your pantry. What kind of oil that be? No, we're not giving it to you.

[Spencer Newhor]

But what about me?

[Randall Williams]

Got to be sp.

[Spencer Newhor]

I had a pantry item that you, you put on your guides.

[Brody Henderson]

I've never heard of anyone using Crisco.

[Corey Calkins]

How about Earl, does that work?

[Brody Henderson]

No.

[Giannis Patelis]

Southern oil.

[Brody Henderson]

If you can find something that says Crisco, I'll consider it.

[Randall Williams]

The fisherman in the room.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

I mean, I believe it.

[Seth Morris]

People use chapstick, which is an oil

[Randall Williams]

that sounds like a real pain in the ass.

[Brody Henderson]

I think Pam is like the faint, the thing that's famous for it.

[Randall Williams]

Spray it on.

[Spencer Newhor]

So you saw somebody out there with a yellow and red can spraying their.

[Seth Morris]

Spraying it up the whole length of

[Giannis Patelis]

the rod or just like the end?

[Brody Henderson]

No. You hit the guide.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, just hit the guides.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah. Fly fishermen use obviously other fishermen to use PAM cooking spray primarily as an anti icing agent to prevent ice buildup on rod guides or eyelets during cold weather. Fishing budget friendly alternative to specialized lubricants used to keep fly line slick also and in some case to add scent to lures or baits.

[Corey Calkins]

I'm giving myself a point since this isn't a real episode.

[Brody Henderson]

What's not real about it? Like you're just not getting them right. So it's not real.

[Randall Williams]

Sounds like a real episode to me.

[Brody Henderson]

Woohoo. Here comes another fishing question.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

Two in a row.

[Brody Henderson]

Yep. We ready for this one?

[Alyssa Smith]

Yes. Yes we are.

[Seth Morris]

You mean to pull.

[Alyssa Smith]

Pull it up now.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, okay.

[Seth Morris]

Visual hell yes.

[Giannis Patelis]

What?

[Brody Henderson]

What two word term describes the circular swimming motion of schools of tarpon shown here?

[Alyssa Smith]

Ooh, that's not the right.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh man. Let's see.

[Giannis Patelis]

Read the question again.

[Brody Henderson]

What two word term describes the circular swimming motion of schools of tarpon shown here?

[Randall Williams]

Two words.

[Brody Henderson]

Two words. Mmm. Used to get real excited when I saw this.

[Spencer Newhor]

I've actually never seen it.

[Brody Henderson]

It's cool. You can get pretty close to them

[Seth Morris]

when they're doing question one more time.

[Brody Henderson]

What two word term describes the circular swimming motion of schools of tarpon shown here? Two words to describe what you're looking at.

[Spencer Newhor]

Looks like that one just gulped some air there. Well, Mark, Kane and I are gonna go and maybe get into a little bit of this, and.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, it's coming up on that time of year.

[Seth Morris]

Are you gonna use your little fly poles?

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, throw a live crab in there and have fun.

[Spencer Newhor]

Well, we might do that too, but I've yet to catch one on a fly, so I'd like to do that.

[Seth Morris]

Just break it. Just instantly break it off.

[Brody Henderson]

Everyone got two words?

[Spencer Newhor]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Flip them over. Yannis says daisy chain. Seth says fish twister. Sandworm. Crazy cast. Here. Death pool. Tarpon tornado. We have a correct answer. This is a bad question.

[Randall Williams]

Asked when someone in the room has been planning a tarpon trip.

[Alyssa Smith]

What was the answer?

[Giannis Patelis]

What was the answer?

[Brody Henderson]

Daisy chain. That's not what I thought. Groups ranging from a few to hundreds of tarpon gather in daisy chains during the spring and summer migration period is often considered a pre spawn ritual, though. Juvenile tarpon also gather in daisy chains, suggesting it may also serve as a defense mechanism against predators. While daisy chaining makes the fish easy to locate, they often ignore baits while they're in a Daisy Jane. Daisy chain.

[Giannis Patelis]

Daisy chain. Also a sound engineer thing, right, Phil? Isn't that like when you connect a speaker to a speaker?

[Alyssa Smith]

Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. When. Yeah, a bunch of cables are all connected together. Sure.

[Seth Morris]

Phil.

[Alyssa Smith]

Yes, Brody.

[Brody Henderson]

We got a scoreboard update.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Alyssa Smith]

It is halftime. And here we have Corey Calkins with zero points in last place. And we've got. It's a close game after that. Seth, Alyssa, and Spencer have two points apiece and are tied up.

[Brody Henderson]

Three out of five ain't bad.

[Alyssa Smith]

In first place with three points are both Giannis Patelis and Dr. Randall Williams.

[Randall Williams]

But no more questions related to things that people are actively researching.

[Brody Henderson]

How would I know what he's doing?

[Randall Williams]

Because he's on the phone all day talking about tarpon fishing.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, I can hear it too. I've heard him talking about a lot of hunting, but not tarpon fishing. Why are you wearing your headphones?

[Giannis Patelis]

Look for tarpon.

[Spencer Newhor]

Why?

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

What the hell are you doing, Phil?

[Alyssa Smith]

Hunter Spencer is slacking me about a podcast thumbnail, so I apologize.

[Spencer Newhor]

Just gonna close here.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, go down there.

[Randall Williams]

I thought you were just introducing us,

[Spencer Newhor]

obviously, and taught conservation. What's going on in the Keys right now?

[Seth Morris]

You're gonna eat them.

[Spencer Newhor]

Not gonna eat any tarpon. But the plan is to fish flats two days and then go do some meat hauling on the third day.

[Giannis Patelis]

It takes two of you to go down there and fish for tarpon and talk tarpon conservation.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

Well, Maybe three of us.

[Spencer Newhor]

Well, the third is going to be Max.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay, one person, two seems like.

[Brody Henderson]

Are you hitting up our buddy Nick or. No?

[Spencer Newhor]

No, we're gonna fish with Jake. Our buddy Jake.

[Brody Henderson]

Where's he. Where's he at?

[Spencer Newhor]

Big Pine, Key West.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah. Nice.

[Randall Williams]

That'll be tough assignment.

[Brody Henderson]

That'll be fun. Yep, it is a tough assignment, Randall. I mean, obviously, you know, you're more qualified than he is to go, but, you know, he's got to learn something.

[Randall Williams]

That's true.

[Brody Henderson]

That's true. Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Just remember to bring the pam.

[Brody Henderson]

Seth, you were asking about eating them. I think they used to grind tarpon up into cat food, but I don't think people ever really were into eating them. Too much. Little tidbit for you, huh?

[Seth Morris]

No, keep going.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, Next question number six is conservation.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

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[Brody Henderson]

Let's pull this one up, Phil. Cause it's like a weird one. The blank zone describes the area of Colorado and Wyoming, where chronic wasting disease was first documented. And mule deer and elk. Replace the blank with the correct seven letter word.

[Alyssa Smith]

God, why do I keep doing that?

[Seth Morris]

Get it together.

[Alyssa Smith]

I need to get it.

[Giannis Patelis]

You can't hear it in your cans, but he's got.

[Alyssa Smith]

I've got Hunter and Riva trying to both call me at the same time. Brody's yelling at me. It's terrible. Over here.

[Brody Henderson]

Hunter and Reva, like, you guys work while you're doing. You're doing other stuff while you're doing this.

[Alyssa Smith]

They try to work with me while I'm doing.

[Seth Morris]

Blank zone. How many letters?

[Alyssa Smith]

Seven.

[Brody Henderson]

Seven. The blank zone describes the area of Colorado and Wyoming where chronic wasting disease was first documented in mule deer and elk. It's a seven letter, seven letter word.

[Randall Williams]

I have another seven letter word that I'd like to use. Is it. It's one word.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, just one more.

[Spencer Newhor]

Okay.

[Randall Williams]

Is lab leak one word?

[Brody Henderson]

Hashtag lab leak is one word.

[Seth Morris]

Is that a conspiracy theory?

[Brody Henderson]

No. Oh, this one's struggling. People are struggling with this one. Seven letter word to describe the zone where CWD was first documented. Minute everyone got an answer?

[Seth Morris]

No.

[Brody Henderson]

No.

[Spencer Newhor]

Gosh, not even close. Brody, did you know this before you found this out? For a question?

[Brody Henderson]

I think you'll.

[Spencer Newhor]

You think I'll know, huh?

[Brody Henderson]

I think you should know it's in there, right, Randall? I don't know kind of thing you should know.

[Randall Williams]

I don't know.

[Spencer Newhor]

Does Randall?

[Randall Williams]

Depends if I get it right or not.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yanni lived in Colorado, therefore he should know it.

[Brody Henderson]

I get there's a certain vibe Randall throws off when he's got the right answer.

[Randall Williams]

No, I truly don't know this. I've got a seven letter word that I think is a strong contender.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, he knows it.

[Randall Williams]

I don't know it. Truly.

[Spencer Newhor]

That's not it.

[Brody Henderson]

All right, hold on. Get your answers in there. Flip them over. Oh, boy. We might have a zero percenter. Okay, we do. The answer is the endemic zone. Oh, of course it was. The chronic wasting disease. Endemic zone in Colorado and Wyoming is the original contiguous focal point of the disease in North America. CWD was initially identified in 1967 as a mysterious wasting syndrome, causing captive mule deer to lose weight and die at a research facility near Fort Collins, Colorado. Researchers later confirmed it was a prion disease or Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy. TSE in 1978. There you go. The endemic zone.

[Giannis Patelis]

I like Randall's answer, though. Genesis.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that was cool.

[Brody Henderson]

I thought you had it, man. I thought you had it. Okay, moving on number seven categories. Hunting. What common species of dabbler duck is also known as a gray duck? Corey, just like not happy over there, dude.

[Corey Calkins]

I got other stuff I could doing.

[Alyssa Smith]

You want to get in a huddle, call with rea and hunter?

[Corey Calkins]

Yeah, I could probably do better at that than this. A gray duck. Boy, there's a lot of them.

[Brody Henderson]

A lot of gray ducks. But it's a dabbler. Yanis, you're a so called water fowler. Come on.

[Spencer Newhor]

Am I?

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah. I think you're the only one in this room who's filmed waterfowl hunts.

[Spencer Newhor]

Always as a beginner.

[Brody Henderson]

That's true.

[Spencer Newhor]

I feel good about my answer.

[Seth Morris]

I'm changing mine.

[Brody Henderson]

What common species of dabbler duck is also known as gray duck? Yeah. Okay, flip them over.

[Spencer Newhor]

Brody's. Oh, yeah. I think you guys.

[Brody Henderson]

Yana says Widgeon, Seth, Gadwall, Randall Gadwall, Corey, Mexican teal. List of mallard, Spencer Eider. The answer is Gadwall the primary nickname for gray ducks, referencing their mottled gray brown appearance. Appearance. A couple other nicknames for them are Texas mallard, a regional name sometimes used because they are common in Texas wintering grounds. And also, I never heard this. Pirate of the lakes derived from their behavior of stealing food from other birds.

[Giannis Patelis]

I like that.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, I shot a. I've shot a gadwall or two. I think they get confused with hen. Mallards a lot look quite similar. Okay, question number eight, wildlife. This is also our listener question of the week from Brian Parks. This goes back to like the last time I hosted when I did all listener questions. And this isn't. This is one I didn't get to. So Brian asks, what African animal is the closest living relative to the pronghorn antelope? Oh, yeah. Listener question of the week. What African animal is the closest living relative to the pronghorn antelope? Pam, Brother Gadwall. Brother Seth was just in. You might have learned this on your recent trip across the pond. Seth.

[Seth Morris]

I don't think it was brought up. No, I don't think it was brought up there.

[Randall Williams]

Just a good solid trivia question.

[Seth Morris]

I honestly could be wrong, but I think I'm right.

[Brody Henderson]

We'll find out.

[Alyssa Smith]

We'll see.

[Brody Henderson]

You still throwing up a blank?

[Corey Calkins]

No, I got an African animal written down.

[Brody Henderson]

No, I mean, have you gotten a question right?

[Randall Williams]

Nope.

[Corey Calkins]

It's zero, buddy.

[Brody Henderson]

Cool. Let's keep it going.

[Corey Calkins]

I'd love to break the ice here, buddy.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, he just showed it to Giannis and he looked. I saw his eyes move.

[Brody Henderson]

Uh, oh, you guys should chat a little while Giannis talks. Really put the pressure on him.

[Randall Williams]

I'll give you a hint.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, he lives in Africa.

[Brody Henderson]

Be careful with those hints.

[Giannis Patelis]

The closest really living relative, one of

[Randall Williams]

these was recently killed with a hot rod 6 millimeter cartridge.

[Brody Henderson]

A Swedish cartridge?

[Randall Williams]

Nope. Hot rod,

[Brody Henderson]

huh? Got an answer?

[Spencer Newhor]

I sure do.

[Randall Williams]

There's going to be 10 people that are going to enjoy that reference.

[Seth Morris]

Nah.

[Brody Henderson]

Yana says Impala. Seth says giraffe. Randall.

[Seth Morris]

Giraffe.

[Brody Henderson]

Corey Gazelle, Alyssa Kuyu, Spencer. Giraffe. The correct answer is giraffe. Giraffe, brother pronghorn are the last remaining member of the family Antilocapridae, with their closest living relatives being giraffes. Molecular studies and genetic evidence confirm the pronghorn's closest living relatives are giraffes. While they share a common ancestor, pronghorns evolved independently in North America for millions of years. Like giraffes, which have ossicones, pronghorns possess specialized bony hair covered structures. Though pronghorns usually shed their outer horn, she's annually. Ossicone. That's a word I did not know.

[Seth Morris]

Cool.

[Spencer Newhor]

There you go. Giraffe.

[Randall Williams]

That's a wild animal.

[Seth Morris]

It is a wild, weird animal.

[Randall Williams]

Love looking at drinks.

[Giannis Patelis]

Randall might be running away.

[Brody Henderson]

Do we do a scoreboard update now, Phil? After questioning questions, usually.

[Spencer Newhor]

Yeah, we usually do.

[Alyssa Smith]

Take a look at that sucker again. Here we are as previously confirmed question. Tory is still representing with a big

[Brody Henderson]

brother working on it.

[Alyssa Smith]

Alyssa's up next with two points. Giannis and Spencer tied up with three, Seth Morris has four, and in first place with five points, it's Randall Mount.

[Giannis Patelis]

Marcy has to come up at some point.

[Randall Williams]

I hope so.

[Spencer Newhor]

No, he said only if we need

[Randall Williams]

to, so it'll be a tiebreaker.

[Seth Morris]

But Randalling, we should look it up.

[Randall Williams]

I used to own a T shirt with it printed on it.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, Seth, everyone's rooting for you. Boy Scouts of America.

[Giannis Patelis]

What happened to that shirt?

[Spencer Newhor]

Come on, Seth.

[Randall Williams]

I don't fit it anymore. But one of the best. One of the photos in which I look the handsomest in my life is taken wearing that shirt.

[Giannis Patelis]

Wow.

[Brody Henderson]

What age?

[Randall Williams]

That was a phase of my life. About 22.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

Peak handsomeness at 22.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Seth Morris]

Nah, you're there now.

[Brody Henderson]

No, I'm just letting this go on for a while.

[Randall Williams]

I'm just chewing up some clock here, Brody.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'd like to see that.

[Brody Henderson]

The category for question nine is history. So Randall's getting all excited. No, no, but I don't Think he'll be excited?

[Randall Williams]

I didn't think you'd throw me a bone. Brody.

[Brody Henderson]

Name the company that made the legendary bush float planes the Beaver and the Otter.

[Randall Williams]

Dang should have gone, not history.

[Brody Henderson]

I couldn't figure out what category.

[Seth Morris]

Air. Air travel year.

[Brody Henderson]

I don't know. I mean, if you got a. Aeronautics. Yeah. History. I like history. There's. You'll get some history. Everyone ready? No.

[Randall Williams]

Come on. Wow.

[Spencer Newhor]

Brody's ripping through this. Yeah, you are.

[Randall Williams]

I'm doing my best to slow it down.

[Giannis Patelis]

He wants to play instead of hope.

[Randall Williams]

So how are we doing on time?

[Brody Henderson]

Who else been in one of these?

[Alyssa Smith]

Do we get a second short, actually.

[Brody Henderson]

Who's been in one of these here?

[Randall Williams]

Who's been in both these planes?

[Brody Henderson]

I think I've been in both.

[Randall Williams]

I don't think I've been in the old Otter Patata.

[Spencer Newhor]

So I've got some stories that'll curl your hair.

[Randall Williams]

Little turbo otter action.

[Brody Henderson]

Hot dog guy. I don't know. You talking about the hot dog guy?

[Spencer Newhor]

No, no, no. You mean the guy out of Prince of Wales does the hot dog? No.

[Giannis Patelis]

What's the hot dog?

[Brody Henderson]

He liked to show off, like flare.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh.

[Randall Williams]

I thought it was, like, a literal

[Brody Henderson]

hot dog and stuff. No, but that would be a good hot dog. Like, hot dog.

[Randall Williams]

When you're like the hot dog guy, it's like, this guy sounds sick. He.

[Giannis Patelis]

He was just, like, hot dogging in the airplane. Or there's a different reason you call him the hot dog.

[Spencer Newhor]

No, because he was hot.

[Brody Henderson]

Unnecessary hot dogging in the plane.

[Spencer Newhor]

Okay, you know that there's old pilots and there's bold pilots, but there's no bold old pilots.

[Giannis Patelis]

What I say is, there are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters.

[Randall Williams]

There are old hand loaders, and they're bold hand loaders. Actually, there are some old bold hand loaders.

[Giannis Patelis]

All right, now you do one, Seth.

[Seth Morris]

I don't have one.

[Randall Williams]

Ice fisherman?

[Seth Morris]

Yeah. No, there's a lot of old, bold ice fishermen, Seth, actually.

[Randall Williams]

But they don't have all their tails.

[Brody Henderson]

I thought you might be a little distracted considering what's about to happen soon to you.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, man. I've been telling you.

[Seth Morris]

Feeling good about it?

[Brody Henderson]

Yep. Seth's gonna be a daddy, in case.

[Giannis Patelis]

Did you listen to that song yet?

[Brody Henderson]

I did.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah. It was good.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Seth Morris]

That's good.

[Brody Henderson]

Name the company that made the legendary bush float planes, the Beaver and the Otter. Flip them over if you got an. An. Giannis de Havilland. Seth de Havilland. Randall De Havilland, Boeing, SeaCat, AirCub. The name. The name of the company is de Havilland Aircraft Company. De Havilland Aircraft Company was founded by Sir Jeffrey de Havilland in September 1920. The pioneering British aerospace manufacturer was responsible for integrate innovative aircraft designs like the MA Series, the World War II Mosquito, and the world's first jet airliner, the Comet. But hunters and anglers, particularly in Alaska and Canada, are more familiar with the various models of Beavers and the larger Otters. Often used as float planes, the Otter and Beaver can also be outfitted with skis and wheels, making them the most reliable and popular bush planes ever built. Though production on the Otter and the beaver ended in 1967, many of these aircraft are well over 70 years old and still flying today.

[Giannis Patelis]

Right, brother Seth, it was right there for you.

[Brody Henderson]

Yep. Yep.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, instead of aviation.

[Spencer Newhor]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

It's real interesting when you get one of these now, though, because Ohio boys, they'll have like an Apple iPad, like, retrofitted into the. All these, like, manual old controls. I love flying in those things, man. They're fun.

[Seth Morris]

Yep. There's always. There's always a lot of this.

[Brody Henderson]

Yep.

[Seth Morris]

And there's always a lot of this.

[Giannis Patelis]

Yeah. What are they doing up here?

[Seth Morris]

Like, rudder or something? Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Yep. Fiddling around. All right. Is it over?

[Alyssa Smith]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah. No, we want another scoreboard.

[Alyssa Smith]

Look, because it's. It's interesting.

[Brody Henderson]

Corey has zero.

[Alyssa Smith]

Alyssa has two. Spencer has three. Giannis has four. Seth has five. Randall has six.

[Brody Henderson]

I guess I do.

[Seth Morris]

Two, three, four, five, six.

[Randall Williams]

Corey, if you could get one, if you had one,

[Brody Henderson]

I've got to do a. A correct answer of you. I guess. Number one was Florida. Number two, New York, New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine. Number three was Le. Number four was Pam. Cooking spray oil. Number five was Daisy chain. Number six was the endemic zone. Number seven was Gadwall.

[Randall Williams]

Gadwall.

[Brody Henderson]

Eight was Giraffe. Nine was De Havilland.

[Randall Williams]

Can we count oil?

[Corey Calkins]

No, don't do it. I don't need any help over here.

[Spencer Newhor]

I'm fine.

[Seth Morris]

Charity.

[Brody Henderson]

I mean, if.

[Spencer Newhor]

If.

[Brody Henderson]

If Corey really, like, needs that to boost himself up.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

No, we all want to see the scoreboard be.

[Spencer Newhor]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

[Giannis Patelis]

What kind of oil does Pam spray?

[Alyssa Smith]

I think it's canola. Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth Morris]

It's oil seed oils.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, here we go. Last question.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

If you would have said maybe cooking

[Spencer Newhor]

spray and not Pam, I would have given it.

[Randall Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

If you just said cooking spray, I'd have done it.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Corey Calkins]

Well, it's all oil. I mean, you could rub oil on.

[Spencer Newhor]

He's not gonna give Me, Crisco. Which is.

[Alyssa Smith]

No, I'm sorry for bringing this up again.

[Randall Williams]

I was trying to be nice, but now it's getting annoying.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, there's too many oils. Like gear oil.

[Spencer Newhor]

No, no, no.

[Seth Morris]

Crude oil.

[Randall Williams]

You wouldn't find that in your bear oil.

[Brody Henderson]

You might.

[Randall Williams]

Nose oil.

[Brody Henderson]

Snake oil. Yeah.

[Corey Calkins]

Grizzly bear oil.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah, too many oils.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, last question. We're done debating this. The question is again. Fishing. Last question. Fishing. Since. Since I always get a number 10 fishing question.

[Giannis Patelis]

They say.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, we ready? Phil, Name the two states that lay claim to the world record smallmouth bass.

[Giannis Patelis]

Both states.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, that's kind of the whole point.

[Spencer Newhor]

Wow. Randall has an answer.

[Giannis Patelis]

I don't like that at one bit

[Brody Henderson]

that you know this two states. I'll tell you this. I know how this was discussed in detail on the meat eater podcast.

[Spencer Newhor]

Well, that's why in the past.

[Randall Williams]

No, I know it because I know where this lake is.

[Giannis Patelis]

This lake?

[Spencer Newhor]

Oh, I don't know. He just gave away.

[Brody Henderson]

Did give a hint, but it's not a big enough hint that I'm going

[Randall Williams]

to like lake or river?

[Brody Henderson]

Redo the question.

[Randall Williams]

I know where this or this reservoir,

[Corey Calkins]

body of water or pond.

[Brody Henderson]

World record out there. Name the two states that lay claim to the world record smallmouth bass.

[Giannis Patelis]

I know the lake, but I don't know the two states.

[Seth Morris]

Are they close to one another?

[Brody Henderson]

But the states.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Randall Williams]

Be weird if they weren't.

[Giannis Patelis]

It's.

[Brody Henderson]

Well, I mean, between two states.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, that's true. I mean, maybe I don't.

[Brody Henderson]

Yes, they are.

[Randall Williams]

Maybe I don't know this.

[Brody Henderson]

I'll give you a clue.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

I'd imagine they're bordering.

[Randall Williams]

I've been to this lake.

[Brody Henderson]

Catch any small mouth there?

[Giannis Patelis]

What were you doing there?

[Randall Williams]

I think we were mountain biking and Boy Scouts.

[Brody Henderson]

Mountain biking in the lake?

[Randall Williams]

No. God.

[Seth Morris]

Boy Scouts

[Spencer Newhor]

over there.

[Seth Morris]

Which means you would have been living

[Randall Williams]

in a. Yeah, this is a very. This is a very.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, okay, Seth.

[Randall Williams]

This is a very nostalgic round of trivia for me.

[Brody Henderson]

It's kind of a hint that Randall's telling you this too.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, we traveled. I mean, we. We went to Montana. We went to Canada. I'm just trying to get them to New York.

[Seth Morris]

What other states?

[Randall Williams]

We went all over the place.

[Spencer Newhor]

Name some big, small mouth states.

[Seth Morris]

Come on.

[Randall Williams]

High adventure.

[Brody Henderson]

You're the only bass I feel like

[Giannis Patelis]

I can tell you.

[Seth Morris]

I don't keep track of records. Although that's a good come out of Tennessee. Here it looks like. Oh, large mouth. Large mouth. Large mouth.

[Randall Williams]

What?

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, just for the, like the state Record.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, but we're talking bronze backs, baby.

[Seth Morris]

There's a 15 pound, 15.75 pound largemouth, small jaws. You say 15 pound largemouth, 15, 3 quarter.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, mutant. Okay. Oh. If you don't got an answer, you're gonna need to come up with one real soon.

[Giannis Patelis]

Pick two states, set that have big bass.

[Randall Williams]

Big.

[Spencer Newhor]

Come on.

[Brody Henderson]

What?

[Seth Morris]

What'd you pick?

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

They're near each other.

[Seth Morris]

Oh, they are? Yeah.

[Giannis Patelis]

He told you that.

[Spencer Newhor]

Here you go.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

Pick one that borders that state.

[Giannis Patelis]

You're making Randall too comfortable over there.

[Spencer Newhor]

I mean, I got.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

Being from pa, you ought to know

[Spencer Newhor]

that geography over there.

[Seth Morris]

We're good.

[Brody Henderson]

All right, flip them over. Minnesota and Wisconsin. Vermont. New York, Kentucky and Tennessee. Michigan, Wisconsin, Tennessee. Kentucky.

[Giannis Patelis]

Wow.

[Brody Henderson]

Dale Hollow. Tennessee, Kentucky. We had three people get it right. Kentucky and Tennessee.

[Spencer Newhor]

Oh, wow. Alyssa, how'd you know?

[Giannis Patelis]

That right?

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, that right.

[Alyssa Smith]

Nice.

[Seth Morris]

Wow. Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay. On July 9, 1955, David Lee Hayes caught an 11 pound 15 ounce smallmouth bass 27 inches long trolling a bomber plug in Dale Hollow Lake, which straddles the Tennessee Kentucky border. That record was challenged by allegations of tampering in the 1990s, and the record was rescinded. But eventually those allegations were proven false. The world record was reinstated, which stands to this day. The fish was caught in Kentucky waters, but weighed and measured in Tennessee. So both states lay claim to the record.

[Giannis Patelis]

I don't remember. What was the other controversy was.

[Brody Henderson]

What do you mean the other like,

[Seth Morris]

one was Dale Hollow. What was the other like?

[Randall Williams]

It's the same.

[Brody Henderson]

Hollow, same, like borders. He's just on one side. I thought.

[Giannis Patelis]

I remember they're saying something about maybe like spark plugs in the belly of the bass.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, yeah, there was all kinds. There's like this disgruntled employee at this marina who like, made allegations of tampering, like stuff in the fish with weights or something like that. And it all. It all came out that that guy was just like, talking shit. Okay. And the record stands to this day. So there you go. Looks like Randall is our winner with seven questions.

[Spencer Newhor]

Randall.

[Seth Morris]

Good job, Randall.

[Brody Henderson]

How you feeling about that victory, Randall?

[Randall Williams]

It's good. It's a good start to the new season of meat eater trivia. After a heartily disappointing championship.

[Giannis Patelis]

Season five now.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, Season five.

[Brody Henderson]

Really?

[Randall Williams]

Yeah. This is a season opener.

[Spencer Newhor]

I'm going to retire soon.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, Randall, who's the money going to.

[Randall Williams]

Let's send this money to the Coastal Conservation Association.

[Brody Henderson]

Tell us why you're sending it.

[Randall Williams]

Well, it's a group that works on fisheries issues, I believe Specifically in the Gulf. But we used to do some work with them when I was at trcp and then when we were on the live tour Guide, I believe at the Dallas or Austin show, who guides on the Texas Gulf coast suggested it. And believe it or not, it's been so long since I've won a game of trivia.

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, you stuck with it.

[Randall Williams]

We're just getting to it now.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay.

[Brody Henderson]

Yeah, maybe Yanis will run into those guys on his tarpon fishing.

[Randall Williams]

That'd be nice. Tell him I say hi.

[Spencer Newhor]

I will.

[Giannis Patelis]

That was all the way back in 2025, Randall.

[Randall Williams]

I know. Gosh, goodness gracious, young man.

[Brody Henderson]

Then I've got.

[Randall Williams]

I'll be honest, it's very flattering when people send me donation requests, but at this point, I am. I've drowned and then settled into the bottom of the lake, and sediment has landed on top of me.

[Giannis Patelis]

I'm coming. A fossil.

[Randall Williams]

Very close to fossilization.

[Brody Henderson]

Hold on. Before we go. Oh, we're going to do a bonus question. Everyone was wondering about the Mount Marcy thing.

[Seth Morris]

Yeah.

[Alyssa Smith]

Okay.

[Brody Henderson]

We're going to pretend that Seth and Randall tied.

[Giannis Patelis]

Tie break.

[Brody Henderson]

What is the elevation of New York's highest peak? Mount Mory. Good lord, that is. Be quick, write it down.

[Giannis Patelis]

Crazy that you said that earlier, Randal,

[Seth Morris]

and now you have it on your. On your shirt.

[Randall Williams]

Yeah, but I haven't fit that shirt. I haven't fit that shirt.

[Alyssa Smith]

This one more. I didn't prep the Mount Mar cuz that was Brody's backup tiebreaker, which I didn't think was going to happen.

[Brody Henderson]

We can. I'll give the answer to that, too.

[Spencer Newhor]

Oh, wow.

[Giannis Patelis]

Okay, we'll write down two answers.

[Randall Williams]

1.

[Brody Henderson]

What's the elevation on New York's highest peak? Mount Marcy. What was the one that was on last year? Lake Superior froze over.

[Giannis Patelis]

Oh, last year.

[Brody Henderson]

Okay, the last time.

[Giannis Patelis]

Gotcha.

[Brody Henderson]

Last time.

[Alyssa Smith]

Okay, so here's. Here's the Mount Marcy one.

[Brody Henderson]

Fill through it all into just.

[Randall Williams]

I believe Mount Dicks is also nearby. Dix.

[Brody Henderson]

That one might have tundra. Of course. It was a.

[Randall Williams]

It was a shirt with a list of like.

[Seth Morris]

Oh, yeah, we are close.

[Brody Henderson]

The 10 over. Oh, whoa, wait, you're not doing the. The year Superior?

[Randall Williams]

No.

[Spencer Newhor]

Oh,

[Randall Williams]

54, I was gonna say, is either 49 or low 50s.

[Brody Henderson]

I'm willing to bet that there's not one spot east of the Mississippi higher than any answer. Except Randall.

[Randall Williams]

What's the answer?

[Brody Henderson]

Oh, wait, wait. Actually, there is a spot.

[Alyssa Smith]

Well, I think Randall is closest. Right.

[Brody Henderson]

Randall's closest. The answer is 5 3, 4, 4. Just over a mile and he got the tiebreaker.

[Seth Morris]

What's Washington?

[Giannis Patelis]

When's the last year Lake Superior froze over 96?

[Randall Williams]

Oh, that was a good year. Thanks for listening.

[Brody Henderson]

Yep.

[Giannis Patelis]

Well done, Randall. Dominant performance.

[Spencer Newhor]

Yeah.

[Brody Henderson]

Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth, mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

[Meat Eater Promo Announcer]

Welcome to Meat Eaters 12 and 26, presented by Moultrie Mobile and ONX Maps. 12 of Meat Eater's biggest and baddest hunts from the last year released throughout 2026. These are long form episodes so you get more of what you love. The first one up is My Baited Bear Hunt in Manitoba. If you've ever wondered what a baited bear hunt is like, you'll love this episode. My favorite part was watching a younger bear spend an hour trying to figure out how to get a creatively hung beaver carcass down from a tree. Check it out now on Meat Eater's YouTube channel and be on the lookout for more 12 and 26 in the coming months.

[Brody Henderson]

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