Ep. 894: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCXXII

Summary

The MeatEater Podcast, Ep. 894: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCXXII (June 24, 2026)

Overview

This episode features another lively installment of MeatEater Trivia, hosted by Spencer Newhart, with a panel of regulars and guests: Randall, Seth, Corey, Max, Marge, Logan, plus contributions from engineer Phil. In this special game show edition, contestants battle through ten rounds of outdoors-themed trivia spanning hunting, fishing, conservation, cooking, and public lands—with a $500 donation to the winner’s chosen conservation organization at stake. Expect the usual blend of deadpan humor, expert banter, offbeat knowledge, and personal anecdotes from the world of wild food, nature, and outdoor sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mailbag: Gun Safes vs. Gun Cabinets (03:29–08:29)

Listener Question: Chuck from the audience asks for recommendations on buying his first gun cabinet.

• Definitions clarified: A gun "cabinet" (metal or wooden, not fireproof or heavy) vs. a “safe” (fireproof, heavier, and more secure).
• Features to consider: Buy bigger than rated; a “20-gun” safe never fits 20 guns if you use scopes/optics or store ammo.
• Security anecdotes: Randall describes a friend’s gun locker being stolen (“a crew of teens rolled a gun locker full of guns out of his house…into the back of a Honda Accord. You couldn’t have done that with a gun safe.”—Randall, 05:07).
• DIY options: Some opt for building a gun room or custom locking closets.
• Philosophical takes: Not everyone values/collects guns the same—Randall jokes, “For the amount you'd spend on a gun safe, you could buy a few guns you wouldn’t mind getting stolen.”—(04:17)
• Child safety: When kids visit, risk is mitigated by hiding guns out of reach (“I spend an inordinate amount of time hiding them in places above 6ft tall…and then I can't remember where I put them.”—Randall, 08:21).
• Conclusion: “There's no right answer. You just got to know your own situation.” —Randall (08:25)

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2. The Trivia Game (Main Event)

Game Structure & Players

• Host: Spencer Newhart, with scorekeeping by Phil.
• Players: Randall, Seth, Corey, Max, Marge, Logan.
• Prize: $500 donation by MeatEater to winner’s conservation organization.

Notable Segments and Sample Questions

(1) The 410 Shotgun Gauge Question (09:14–12:34)

• Q: If a .410 shotgun followed the same naming logic as 12 & 20 gauge, what gauge would it be?
• A: 67.5 gauge
• Knowledge nugget: “A 12 gauge shotgun means it would take 12 solid lead balls the exact size of the barrel's diameter to get a pound…for a 410, that means it would take 67.5 lead balls.”—Spencer (12:02)

(2) Panfish-Inspired Minnow Name (12:34–16:33)

• Q: What bait shop name for small fathead minnows has a panfish-inspired name?
• A: Crappie minnows
• Anecdote: Max jokes about lake house memories; Seth laments aggressive bluegill on his recent largemouth trip.
• Panel debates giving credit for partial answers (crappie chub), settles on only awarding correct answer.

(3) Africa’s Longest Venomous Snake (17:32–21:18)

• Q: This animal with a colorful name is Africa’s longest venomous snake?
• A: Black mamba
• Discussion: Humor over “colorful” descriptor; tales of African snake encounters—including car-rooftop panic (“Dirt was on the roof…trying to get away as the snake was coming up over there.”—Seth, 22:14).

(4) Yellowstone Treasure Mystery (22:35–26:46)

• Q: Whose treasure hunt ended with a find in Yellowstone NP, revealed by lawsuit in 2022?
• A: Forrest Fenn
• Behind the scenes: Spencer was an active searcher—details his best guess, matching the real location (“So I would say I was a hunter of this treasure.”—Spencer, 24:39).
• Trivia: The hunt centered on a 24-line poem; winner spent 25 days searching.

(5) Conservation Laughter: The Darwin Award (26:46–30:08)

• Q: Which "award" did a rhino poacher win in 2019 by dying in a notably foolish way?
• A: Darwin Award
• Definition: “Given to those who show evolution in action by doing something idiotic that results in death or sterilization.”—Spencer (29:30)
• Example winners: poacher trampled by elephant & eaten by lion; 2020 winner died searching for Fenn’s treasure.

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3. Bonus: Mountain Dew Questions (33:11–36:14)

Sponsored segment—Questions don’t count for totals.

• Q1: Mountain Dew was invented near which national park?
  A: Great Smoky Mountains National Park
• Q2: Which mountain man was captured by pirates and Pawnee before trapping? (Multiple choice: Hugh Glass, Jim Beckworth, Jim Bridger)
  A: Hugh Glass

Quote

• “I always just kind of assumed a lot of the stuff in Parks & Recreation was just, like, made up, but the Pawnee Indians…that’s a real thing.” —Spencer (35:03)

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4. Final Five Rounds: New Knowledge and Gags

Sample Highlights:

• Mammalian Milk Producer (36:25–38:14)
  Q: The seven-letter gland producing milk in mammals?
  A: Mammary (with spelling challenges and jokes about “moot cows”)

  • “Mammary glands are what make a mammal a mammal…”—Spencer (38:14)

• Little Bighorn Mishap (38:59–41:31)
  Q: Which man, killed at Little Bighorn, once shot his own horse?
  A: George Custer

  • “If you spend your life as an equestrian, bison hunter, I feel like at some point you’re going to accidentally shoot your horse…”—Randall (39:23)

• Fishing Technique with a Dental Name (41:29–44:14) Q: This dental term refers to a salmon ‘snagging’ method.
  A: Flossing

  • “Fish caught while flossing aren’t biting the hook. Instead, it’s more like snagging them in the mouth. Flossing is illegal in WA, OR, CA, and ID, but Alaska allows it.”—Spencer (43:13)

• Camo History (45:08–47:15)
  Q: Who bought the original Treebark camo in 2000?
  A: Mossy Oak

  • Panel debates differences between bottomland and treebark patterns; consensus after picture prompts.

• Salmon and Sleep (49:21–51:13)
  Q: What nine-letter hormone in fatty fish is also called the “hormone of darkness”?
  A: Melatonin

  • Max jokes about his lunch; panel muses that eggs (breakfast) are high in melatonin.

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5. Results, Recap, and Conservation Winner

• Scoreboard: Randall wins with 9/10, followed by Seth and Corey.
• Charity chosen: Western Habitat Foundation ($500 donation)—works on public lands habitat improvement such as removing abandoned fencing for wildlife movement (53:01).
• In-jokes: Randall is nicknamed "Crappie Chub" for his earlier half-answer.
• **Round of self-deprecating humor and camaraderie (“I don’t come to win.”—Maxwell, 52:16).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Randall on gun safes:
  “For the amount of money you’d spend on a gun safe, you could buy a few guns you wouldn’t mind getting stolen.” (04:17)

• On bluegill spawning:
  “They were so wildly aggressive that they would swim up to my paddle and want to fight it despite it being ten times their size.” —Spencer (14:34)

• Snake scare in Africa:
  “Dirt was on the roof of the truck trying to get away as the snake was coming up over there.” —Seth (22:14)

• On flossing (fishing):
  “You’re literally trying to just get them in front of the gill plate.” —Randall (43:50)

• Randall reflecting on victory:
  “For your ego. Just to keep track of…” —Randall, when asked if he regrets not taking a free point (52:32)

• Panel camaraderie:
  “Max, if you and I share a brain cell, I think we won.” —Logan (52:00)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |-------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Mailbag: Gun Safes vs. Cabinets | 03:29 – 08:29 | | Trivia Question 1 – Shotgun Gauges | 09:14 – 12:34 | | Trivia Question 2 – Crappie Minnows | 12:34 – 16:33 | | Trivia Question 3 – Black Mamba | 17:32 – 21:18 | | Trivia Question 4 – Fenn Treasure | 22:35 – 26:46 | | Trivia Question 5 – Darwin Award | 26:46 – 30:08 | | Mountain Dew Bonus Questions | 33:11 – 36:14 | | Trivia Question 6 – Mammary Gland | 36:25 – 38:14 | | Trivia Question 7 – Custer’s Blunder | 38:59 – 41:31 | | Trivia Question 8 – Flossing | 41:29 – 44:14 | | Trivia Question 9 – Treebark Camo Sale | 45:08 – 47:15 | | Trivia Question 10 – Melatonin | 49:21 – 51:13 | | Winner + Donation Announcement | 52:08 – 53:25 |

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Tone and Style

The episode is characteristic of MeatEater’s playful, friendly, and expert tone. Contestants rib each other with inside jokes and self-deprecation; the show is studded with personal anecdotes, technical insights, and a reverence for the outdoors, conservation, and good times.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a great introduction to MeatEater Trivia, balancing sharp knowledge of the outdoors with good-natured ribbing and team spirit. Listeners will come away with new facts about hunting, fishing, and wildlife—and a deep appreciation for the camaraderie that defines the outdoor tradition.

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Next Week: More MeatEater trivia—“the only game show where conservation always wins.”

Transcript

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[Randall]

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[Spencer Newhart]

They know the days are getting longer, warmer, and it's time to get back outside. Whether you're working the land, heading to the woods or getting back out on the water, Tractor Supply has new gear ready for the spring ahead. From new UTVs and zero turn mowers to truck accessories, tools and workwear, your life outdoors starts at Tractor Supply this spring. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth and today we're joined by Randall, Seth, Corey, Max, Marge and Logan. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from meat eaters. Four verticals which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. There is a prize. Meat eater will donate 500 to the Conservation organization of the winner's choosing. All right, we have a mailbag question today. If you have a mailbag question, send it to Trivia atthe meat eater.com with the subject line mailbag and the crew will maybe answer it on a future episode. This is from Chuck Jennings. He says, I'm moving this summer and I'm looking to buy my first gun cabinet. It's pretty overwhelming and a big Investment. Do you have any brands or features you recommend looking for? Any advice, thoughts from the crew? Just make sure it's big enough. Big enough. Yeah. I would say the number one thing is that gun safe, gun cabinet ratings are a lot like sleeping bags or tents. And that if it says it's rated for 20 guns, you're probably only getting 10 of them in there. Yeah. 20 guns is like if they're all 22s without any optics, and you don't keep any optics or any ammo or the other things that gun safes tend to collect. So. So over shop, if Chuck has 12 guns he's looking to protect, maybe look for a 24 gun cabinet, gun safe.

[Maxwell]

Here's a question for you. Yes, gun cabinet or gun safe?

[Spencer Newhart]

He says gun cabinet. My guess is he's using it interchangeably. Max pointed this out earlier when I told him this is a question we'd be answering. A gun cabinet is like a wooden thing with glass doors.

[Maxwell]

You can break into it real easy.

[Spencer Newhart]

That could be metal material.

[Randall]

A gun cabinet, a.

[Spencer Newhart]

It wouldn't be fireproof. Is that.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

Is that how you would define.

[Randall]

That's how I would define it. Like if you buy a metal locker. Yes, that's. I would call that a gun cabinet.

[Seth]

Like when I'm stack on.

[Randall]

Yeah, exactly.

[Spencer Newhart]

Like, that's what I.

[Randall]

It's like a steel box with a door.

[Spencer Newhart]

Doesn't have a fire rating, doesn't have

[Randall]

a flood, and it's not heavy as sin.

[Spencer Newhart]

He says cabinet. My guess is he's in the market for a cabinet or a safe. So when you're giving Chuck your advice, Randall, either one. What do you have for Chuck?

[Randall]

Man, I just think for the amount of money you'd spend on a gun safe, you could buy a few guns that you wouldn't mind getting stolen.

[Spencer Newhart]

Oh, okay. That's good perspective.

[Randall]

Actually, I'll be honest. I've never imagined myself owning a gun safe just based on the sticker price.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. They're not.

[Randall]

For those of you that own gun safes, more power to you. I don't have a lot of sentimental attachment to my firearms. Not to say that I'm looking to lose them in a fire or home invasion, but I just. There's. It would take a lot for me to think, like, here's where I want to dump all this cash.

[Spencer Newhart]

Sure.

[Randall]

On the other hand, people can't move safes. My buddy had a guy, he had a crew of teens roll a gun locker full of guns out of his house.

[Logan]

Wow.

[Randall]

Into the back of a Honda Accord. You couldn't have done that with a gun safe.

[Spencer Newhart]

Did he get the gun cabinet back?

[Randall]

No, he got one of the guns. But I think I've told this story before. He got one of the guns back when it was released from the evidence hold in a homicide trial. But most of the guns probably went into. He was told that most of them probably went into a body of water because they were so obscure.

[Steve Rinella]

Damn.

[Randall]

Yeah. Like, just like. Who's gonna commit a crime with a 9.3by72, you know? I don't know. I just. I. Gun lockers, like, buy them big, because not only do you want to fit the guns in there, you don't want to have to move guns around to get a gun out.

[Seth]

Yeah, that's super.

[Randall]

Right? It's just the whole thing is bad.

[Seth]

I would say if. If he says he's moving.

[Logan]

Right.

[Spencer Newhart]

He's moving. So I think he's waiting until the move happens and then figure out. Yeah, he wants to, like, make sure it fits in his space.

[Seth]

I was gonna say maybe in his new house, he has, like, a closet or something that you can lock up and have, like, a little gun room.

[Spencer Newhart]

Sure.

[Seth]

Rather than a gun cabinet.

[Randall]

Yeah. I think Hornady is making components where you can build. You can, like, frame in.

[Spencer Newhart]

I love that.

[Randall]

A little locker into your closet and then put the door on it. I believe Hornady is doing that, but that's probably what I would do.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Randall]

My friend now who had the locker stolen, he. He has a space under his stairs that he's made into a safe.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah. I. I have what you would define as a cabinet or locker. If a fire comes through my house, I don't think, like, my guns are going to be in the top 25 things I'm thinking about, you know, after it's all set and done or while it's happening. So I'm. I'm just, like, taking that risk that if a flood or fire happens, my guns are gone. Corey, Max, any. Any advice for Chuck? And don't lose those keys. They seem to have to break into. That'd be no fun.

[Maxwell]

I'm still hung up on the safe versus cabinet thing. When I think of cabinet I'm thinking of at my lake house, it's like the guns are presented really nicely, you know? But then glass has a gun safe is like our safe in the kitchen here. You know, it's locked. You have to put multiple codes in there.

[Spencer Newhart]

We don't have a safe in the kitchen here.

[Randall]

I also don't have a lake house.

[Seth]

No.

[Maxwell]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, when I think of cabinet, I think of, like, really nice, elegant wood. So here's.

[Randall]

Here's one thought that I have when it comes to this stuff is I have a. I have a cabinet in my closet. But then I also just want to have a separate cabinet in my garage for guns that are just going in and out of my truck all the time.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay.

[Randall]

Because I ended up just leaving a lot of guns laying around.

[Spencer Newhart]

Sure. I thought that was going to be your dummy cabinet.

[Phil (Engineer)]

No.

[Spencer Newhart]

No breaks in.

[Randall]

No. Right now, the dummy cabinet is just like a rifle on my reloading bench, a rifle sitting on top of my drawers, a rifle laying on a folding table. But I'd like to have two. One for the in and out and one for, like the shotguns that I bring out once a year.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah, I. I like to know that you're not a gun safe man.

[Randall]

No, the other thing is I don't have enough room to lock up all of my guns when people with kids come over to our house. So then I spend an inordinate amount of time hiding them in places above 6ft tall.

[Spencer Newhart]

And then you lose them, and then

[Randall]

I can't remember where I put them.

[Seth]

That's great.

[Randall]

So there's no right answer. You just got to know your own situation.

[Spencer Newhart]

Any other thoughts for Chuck before we move on?

[Randall]

Great question.

[Seth]

Good luck, Chuck.

[Spencer Newhart]

Today's episode is brought to you by Mountain Dew. And thanks to them, you are getting some extra trivia this week between questions five and six. Today, we'll have two bonus questions. Again, it is thanks to our friends at Mountain Dew. All right, the Shelby index for today is a five, so I'm putting us on perfect score alert. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil.

[Maxwell]

Not going to happen for me today.

[Spencer Newhart]

Look, I need to know what I stand to win. You stand to win everything.

[Phil (Engineer)]

What was that?

[Podcast Announcer]

Game on, suckers.

[Spencer Newhart]

Question 1. The topic is haunting. This first great question is via Matt Henderson, and as always, it will be multiple Choice. If a 410 shotgun followed the same naming pattern as the 12 and 20 gauge, then what would it be called? Is it the 25.8 gauge, the 40.1 gauge, the 67.5 gauge, or 95.6 gauge? Oh, wow.

[Maxwell]

Good question.

[Spencer Newhart]

If a 410 shotgun followed the same naming pattern as the 12 and 20 gauge, then what would it be called? The 25.8 gauge. 40.1. 67.5. 95.6. Randall, quick to Answer is because you didn't, because you knew it, or because you didn't want to think about it too hard?

[Randall]

No, I. I've known this.

[Maxwell]

Okay.

[Randall]

I'm not certain, but it is something that I've looked into before.

[Spencer Newhart]

If a 410 followed the same naming logic as a 12 and 20 gauge, what would it be called? 25.8 gauge, 40.1. 67.5, 95.6. Makes me think about your Punt Gun episode coming out here any day. That does come out later this week. Oh boy. And we address this exact thing in that episode. It's what made me think of this.

[Maxwell]

Watched it a few times now.

[Spencer Newhart]

Oh, bully for you.

[Logan]

I've yet to see it.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay.

[Logan]

Max, have you watched it?

[Maxwell]

I haven't, no. We filmed it though.

[Logan]

We filmed it.

[Seth]

I haven't seen.

[Spencer Newhart]

Get this one right.

[Logan]

Oh yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

If you'd watched it.

[Seth]

I just took a couple pictures of it.

[Logan]

I still think the video of you and Max pulling the string together.

[Maxwell]

It was very cute.

[Logan]

Was really cute.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Did that make it in?

[Logan]

I got it.

[Seth]

Dang it.

[Logan]

No, it's not my cell phone.

[Spencer Newhart]

I got cut out too.

[Logan]

We'll do a possession of mine.

[Maxwell]

I know. I shoot 410s all the time.

[Spencer Newhart]

Time. Is everybody ready?

[Maxwell]

No.

[Seth]

Yes.

[Maxwell]

Sure.

[Spencer Newhart]

Maxwell, how many 410s do you own?

[Maxwell]

I. I only need one.

[Seth]

Okay, but how many do you own?

[Maxwell]

One.

[Seth]

I only need one rifle, but I got more than one.

[Randall]

Jeez. Ah, yeah, tell me about it.

[Spencer Newhart]

Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says 25.8. Logan 67.5. Randall 67.5. Marge 67.5. Corey 67.5. Maximus 25.8. The correct answer is 67.5.

[Maxwell]

I want to hear room did well.

[Spencer Newhart]

I think four out of six.

[Seth]

I think you and I were thinking.

[Spencer Newhart]

Got that one right.

[Maxwell]

Always guess on.

[Randall]

Can I have that the wrong razor?

[Maxwell]

Yeah.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

A 12 gauge shotgun means it would take 12 solid lead balls the exact size of the barrel's diameter to get £1. So for a 410, that means it would take 67.5 lead balls that perfectly fit in the barrel to get £1. The 410 name refers to the 410 inch bore diameter that the shotgun has. So if you took a lead ball that fit exactly in the end of a 12 gauge, 12 of those would make 1 pound of lead.

[Maxwell]

Steve talks about this all the time.

[Spencer Newhart]

67.5. Question 2. The topic is fishing. This panfish inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat Head minnows. This panfish inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows.

[Maxwell]

All right, flip your boards.

[Seth]

Let's go.

[Randall]

Minnows or minners?

[Spencer Newhart]

Either one.

[Seth]

Depends on what size. What side of Mason Dixon you're on.

[Spencer Newhart]

Seth was just talking about getting a vending machine maybe, and I told him he should put bait.

[Seth]

Put minners in there.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

This panfish inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows. I like that vending machine idea, though. It's like an aquarium, and then you just, like, have one you want just drop out of there. It serves as both an aquarium and a bait shop. These are a real thing, but usually it's like leeches and worms that you're buying out of a bait vending machine. I don't think they have these.

[Logan]

I'm thinking more of, like, a gumball machine. So it looks like a round aquarium.

[Spencer Newhart]

That's good, too. Yeah.

[Logan]

Comes out with a little spin. Fish just goes down.

[Spencer Newhart]

Randall, do you have this one right?

[Logan]

No.

[Randall]

I sort of thought about this question backwards, and now I'm starting from scratch again.

[Spencer Newhart]

Max, do you have this one right? Okay. Very confident. Didn't even need to finish the question. He had his answer.

[Seth]

How do you know this? Because of walleye Dan?

[Maxwell]

No, just. I used to buy them all the time.

[Randall]

Lake house.

[Maxwell]

You know, my lake house with my gun cabinet.

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[Spencer Newhart]

North Dakota.

[Maxwell]

The sunnies are spawning at the local pond by my house.

[Spencer Newhart]

Oh, okay.

[Maxwell]

It's really cool. Just. I mean, they're all just little dinks, but they're just running around chasing each other and.

[Spencer Newhart]

So aggressive.

[Maxwell]

Yeah, I haven't fished for.

[Seth]

Yeah, I was fishing largemouth this past weekend, and the. The bluegill beds were where you were finding the large mouth. Yeah, close by the bluegill beds.

[Spencer Newhart]

I was just in Minnesota, and it was, like, peak bluegill spawn there, and they were so wildly aggressive that they would, like, swim up to my paddle of my kayak and want to fight it despite it being, you know, 10 size.

[Seth]

I went through so many baits this weekend because of the freaking blue eels being aggressive.

[Spencer Newhart]

They'll grab a wacky worm, no problem. They'll, like, go after a frog on top. Water panfish inspired name is what bait shops often call small fat head minnows. Is everybody ready?

[Seth]

No. Hold on, hold on.

[Maxwell]

I hope I'm right.

[Spencer Newhart]

We distracted Seth.

[Maxwell]

So many pan fish.

[Seth]

I should know this.

[Maxwell]

Very embarrassing.

[Seth]

I'll fish with minnows. Hardly ever, though.

[Randall]

Panfish inspired.

[Spencer Newhart]

This panfish inspired name is what bait Shops often call small bed head minnows. Max isn't sure if he has it right?

[Maxwell]

No, I'm pretty sure.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. Pretty sure. Cory, do you like your answer? I love my answer. Okay, Seth, Randall, you boys ready?

[Randall]

Sure.

[Spencer Newhart]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says brim Logan shiners. Randall crappie chub Marge. Without an answer, Corey says brimos. That's a great name. Maxwell says crappie. The correct answer is crappie minnows.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Really?

[Spencer Newhart]

I mean, so I think Max, we would give it to. But if I give it to Max, then I need to give it to Ranch. A chub in the minnow is crappy.

[Randall]

Mine is close closer.

[Logan]

Why? What did you have?

[Randall]

Crappie Chuck.

[Spencer Newhart]

It's a crappie minnow.

[Randall]

I would say no one gets it.

[Spencer Newhart]

I'd say either, either. You both are getting it. You're Neither one of you are going to get it.

[Maxwell]

Well, here's, here's my thought. What do you call the other style of minnow? The other minnow?

[Spencer Newhart]

Well, this would just be a fat head minnow. Or I think maybe somebody people would call them a walleye minnow if you're in Minnesota. Or a minnow.

[Randall]

Let's give it to Max.

[Maxwell]

I would give it to Randall.

[Randall]

He was close. Let's give it to Max. Don't give it to me.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. I like that rambling. Maxwell gets that right. They are crappie minnows. Crappie minnows are simply smaller minnows, which are likely females or immature males. Bait shops will often sort their fat heads into two sizes, with crappie minnows being the shorter of the two. As the name implies, crappie minnows are small enough to fit in the mouth of crappie and other panfish. Here is a picture of a male versus a female fat head minnow. On the top that would be your traditional fat head minnow. And on the bottom would be a crappie minnow. Seth, does that now sound familiar? Now that you've heard it? No, I never heard who likes creek chubs.

[Maxwell]

Greek chubs.

[Randall]

That's a good fish.

[Maxwell]

Randall's like, Max isn't going to win this game, so might as well just give him a point.

[Spencer Newhart]

It's a little insulting.

[Logan]

I don't know.

[Randall]

I thought mine was not close. I, I. And second thought I thought, you know, does say minnows in the question.

[Logan]

That's kind of what I thought is implied. It was a minnow.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yeah.

[Randall]

So good for you, Max.

[Spencer Newhart]

Question three. The topic is wildlife. This next great question.

[Maxwell]

Love you too.

[Spencer Newhart]

Via Joshua Banks. Heartwarming this animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake. The room has gone quiet. This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake. Kind of a bone for somebody who was just.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Seth, you were just over there.

[Randall]

But he didn't like it and he won't go back.

[Spencer Newhart]

He didn't like it maybe because of this colorful snake. This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake. Randall, do you have this one right?

[Randall]

I don't know. It's got a venomous snake in Africa.

[Seth]

Does it have a colorful name?

[Randall]

That's the question. Could that be open to interpretation?

[Maxwell]

Don't know.

[Seth]

No.

[Spencer Newhart]

Marge is doing some erasing. Corey, do you have this one right? Man, I sure hope so. This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake.

[Randall]

Let me ask you a question.

[Seth]

No,

[Spencer Newhart]

I'm not gonna answer it. So what's the question? You can. You can ask if you.

[Seth]

If it's gonna give everyone a hint.

[Spencer Newhart]

I think I'm just gonna say no, though.

[Randall]

Would a real. Would a real hoop head like this answer?

[Spencer Newhart]

I'm not going to give you anything. That's clever. Does that help you out, Corey? I think I know. I know what he's stepping in here.

[WeatherTech Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Seth]

I don't.

[Spencer Newhart]

Would a real hoople head get this one right? Hooplehead is in Deadwood. What they would call. Maybe if you're going to call someone a really mean name, you know, that started with like an F instead you'd call them a hoople head in Deadwood, the show.

[Randall]

What's the meaning?

[Spencer Newhart]

I don't know. Just like a silly goose. Same thing. You're just calling him something mean, but like in a more western, quirky way.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Mike just got unplugged

[Spencer Newhart]

here from Randall the rest of the episode. Now.

[Randall]

Come in, Phil.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Okay, you just tighten some connections over there for me. That'd be great.

[Spencer Newhart]

This animal with a colorful name is Africa's longest venomous snake. Is everybody ready?

[Maxwell]

It's like this.

[Spencer Newhart]

It looks like that. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

[Randall]

Set.

[Spencer Newhart]

Black mamba. Logan, Black mamba. Logan, Black mamba. Marge, without an answer. Corey. Black mamba. Maxwell, without an answer. The correct answer is the black mamba.

[Maxwell]

I thought I said draw a picture of that.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

And as Randall referred to, that was Kobe Bryant's nickname.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Randall]

It throws me off when you use colorful.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah, Colorful in like if you were in an art store.

[Randall]

Other question.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yes, Randall, we lost your mic again.

[Spencer Newhart]

Well, we're just not gonna.

[Randall]

Maybe it's can you hear me?

[Phil (Engineer)]

I'll come over there during the next question and try to finagle.

[Logan]

See colorful. Black.

[Spencer Newhart]

It's gone again.

[Logan]

Black doesn't mean colorful, though.

[Seth]

But it's a color.

[Logan]

It is a color, but it's one color. Colorful implies colors.

[Spencer Newhart]

I know there's kind of something rainbow colorful. The funny thing is a black mamba's not even black. They're like, olive.

[Randall]

Am I back?

[Phil (Engineer)]

Phil, you're back.

[Seth]

Just.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Just try not to touch it.

[Randall]

I'm not going to touch it at all.

[Spencer Newhart]

Measuring over 14ft long, the black mamba is second only to the king cobra as the world's longest venomous snake. It's also one of the planet's fastest snakes, reaching 12 miles per hour in short bursts. Untreated humans have a 95% mortality rate when bitten by a black mamba, but if antivenom is quickly administered, fatality rates drop below 10%. Seth, did you guys see any black mambas?

[Seth]

I wish they would have told us that when we were there. It's kind of like if you get bit, you're dead.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Maxwell]

Yes.

[Seth]

Yeah, I didn't see any cuz, you know, I was in car two, but the dudes in car one saw. Saw one.

[Spencer Newhart]

Didn't they see them one, like, going the speed of the car?

[Seth]

Well, they came. They came around a corner and there was one in the road trying to get. Get away. But it then it turned and like, came up kind of over. Over the hood of the vehicle. Wow. And then scurried off.

[Logan]

Did they film it?

[Seth]

No, no. Dirt was on the roof of the truck trying to get away as the snake was coming up over there.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

Max's drawing was pretty good because I think it's like over half their body. They can get in the air. They're on the move.

[Maxwell]

Sorry, I erased it.

[Randall]

Saw rattlesnake this weekend. I didn't like that.

[Spencer Newhart]

No, thank you.

[Maxwell]

I don't like snakes.

[Spencer Newhart]

Spooky question for the topic is public lands Colorful. It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park.

[Seth]

Last name? Just last name.

[Spencer Newhart]

Last name will suffice. I respect the jeopardy Rules. Two points for both names when it comes to last name. It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park. Phil, the engineers now on the scene.

[Phil (Engineer)]

How's that sounding?

[Randall]

What a guy.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yeah, sounds good.

[Seth]

Mess with the other one. I think the other one was the one that was causing the issue.

[Randall]

Yeah, I think it was probably in there because what I did to mess it up, I moved the microphone arm down. So I think Phil fixed it brilliantly. He saw what the issue was and everything's better now.

[Spencer Newhart]

That's why they call him Phil the Engineer. It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park.

[Maxwell]

I remember hearing about this.

[Seth]

But you should go watch the doc on it.

[Logan]

I did watch the doc.

[Maxwell]

I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Or the Meat Eater podcast episode.

[Randall]

Yeah.

[Logan]

So many.

[Spencer Newhart]

Or read any of my articles.

[WeatherTech Advertiser]

I know.

[Logan]

I was like.

[Spencer Newhart]

I feel like Spencer was between 2019 and 2022.

[Seth]

Did you ever go look for it?

[Spencer Newhart]

I mildly looked for it. So I. Of course they were close.

[Seth]

Were you close at all?

[Spencer Newhart]

I was close, yeah. My best guess was that it was by Gardner. I thought it would actually be in the Custer National Forest right outside based on some clues. He talks about the House of Brown.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

And he talks about the river on Fire, which I thought would have been the Boiling River. Yankee Jim Canyon, I thought was part of the solve. We could talk about it after. So I would like kind of plan rockhounding fishing, hunting trips in the area and you know, maybe just like look behind the logs or like, you know, walk over to this creek to look at the stream bed just in case it was there.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

So I would say I was a hunter of this treasure.

[Maxwell]

Gosh, I can't think of it.

[Logan]

I can't either.

[Spencer Newhart]

I wrote. I then wrote after it was revealed that it was found. They didn't reveal the location until a few years later. In the weeks after it was found, I wrote an article on our website saying these are the four places I think it could be. And one of the four that I named was Yellowstone National Park. So I was satisfied.

[Maxwell]

That's cool.

[Spencer Newhart]

That I had that part. Is everybody ready? It was revealed in a 2022 lawsuit that this man's treasure was found in Yellowstone National Park. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Finn Logan, Forest Fenn. We'll give it to you. Seth Randall says Forest Fen. Marge, without an answer. Corey Forest Fen Maxwell says Captain Jack Sparrow. The correct answer was Forest Fen.

[Maxwell]

Gosh.

[Spencer Newhart]

The hunt started in 2010 after Forest Fen left a series of clues about his treasure's location in a 24 line poem. The stash was found by Jack Stuff a decade later in 2020, who spent 25 days scouring the area before finding the chest. It wasn't until two years later that it was revealed that the Treasure was found in Yellowstone, which came out in court documents via a lawsuit against Fenn. Apparently, after the treasure was found, Fenn told a park ranger of its location, asking if the spot could handle extra foot traffic from tourists. The park ranger determined that was a bad idea. So no exact location has been revealed. But there's some agreement in the treasure hunting community that it was hidden at nine Mile Hole on the Madison River. So if you can find nine Mile Hole in Madison river, it's not that far of a walk. Then you will be in the vicinity of where the forest Fenn treasure was found. And the founder, he said that he used the 24 line poem. But then also there were some media interviews done later by Forrest Fenn. And it was a clue that was given in one of those media interviews that Jack Stuff said he picked up on that no one else did, which led him to the trial.

[Randall]

His name's Jack Stuff.

[Spencer Newhart]

S T U E F. Google says you pronounce it Stuff. I would have guessed it was stuif. Yeah, but online stuff. Question 5. The topic is conservation. A rhino poacher won this award in 2019, which is given to those who quote, improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from it in an obviously stupid way. The word award is in quotation marks in my question. A rhino poacher won this award in 2019, which is given to those who improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from it in an obviously stupid way. Randall, the only player with an answer. Do you have this right, Randall?

[Randall]

I do, I do. Big fan.

[Spencer Newhart]

I've tried hounding Jack Stuff to just do an interview with us. I don't know. Give me five minutes on the phone. He won't do it. He's determined to just, like, be as anonymous as possible. I even bid on some of the treasure. What Jack did is he took everything and he pieced it up into like 200 different things. The treasure was valued to be worth like $2 million. He then sold it through an auction house. I bid on some of the gold dust that was in the treasure, but came up, well. Well, short of what the seller.

[Randall]

How much did he get for.

[Spencer Newhart]

I don't remember now, the gold dust. I think I bid up to like $100 and I think. I don't think anything in there went for less than a grand.

[Maxwell]

Yeah.

[Randall]

So did he get 2 mil?

[Spencer Newhart]

He went way beyond 2 mil. Oh, and then he kept a couple pieces for himself. He was fully dedicated. Like, he retired. He was, I think only in his late 20s. He quit his job to look, look for the treasure. And then he found it.

[Maxwell]

Gosh, I should have done that.

[Seth]

You weren't that far away.

[Maxwell]

But then I wouldn't be here right now.

[Spencer Newhart]

That's right.

[Maxwell]

Winning that trivia.

[Randall]

Have a lake house.

[Maxwell]

I would have a couple lake houses

[Logan]

with a gun cabinet.

[Randall]

A couple really nice gun cabinets.

[Maxwell]

Really nice. Four, ten.

[Spencer Newhart]

Again, we're on question five. The topic is conservation. A rhino poacher won this award in 2019, which is given to those who, quote, improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from it in an obviously stupid way.

[Logan]

I have no idea.

[Spencer Newhart]

Does everybody give up?

[Maxwell]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

Rhino poacher. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Darwin award. Logan, Charles Darwin, Randall Darwin award. Marge, without an answer. Corey says the Dundees. Max, without an answer. The correct answer is the Darwin award. So, Logan, we'll give that to you.

[Randall]

Oh, yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

Wendy Northcutt has been handing out Darwin Awards since 1992. The honor is given to those who show evolution in action by doing something idiotic that results in death or sterilization. One of the five winners in 2019 was a Rhino poacher who was trampled by an elephant, then eaten by a lion. 2018 featured a winner who was killed by a bear he tried taking a selfie with. And 2020 had a winner who died while looking for forest Fenn's treasure. The awards are named after Charles Darwin, who's known as the father of evolution.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Did the previous question inspire this question?

[Spencer Newhart]

Yes. How's that for a throwback?

[Maxwell]

That was great.

[Spencer Newhart]

Good call.

[Randall]

That's really good. Masterful.

[Spencer Newhart]

All right, we're halfway through today's game of trivia. Phil, give us a scoreboard up.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Everybody is on the board. Max and Maggie, however, only have one point.

[Maxwell]

Okay.

[Logan]

That's why we shared offices.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Show for themselves. Share an office and a brain cell.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Phil (Engineer)]

We've got Seth and Corey up next with three points a piece. And tied up in first place, Miranda Williams. And, hey, it's Logan Dove.

[Spencer Newhart]

Logan, welcome to the leaderboard. Do you know what your high score in a game is, Logan? Do you have a guess as to what it would be? I think five is, like, the most I've ever gotten. And that might have been in, like,

[Maxwell]

the, like, the losers bracket.

[Randall]

That's surprising. I feel like you're. I feel like you're a strong competitor.

[Spencer Newhart]

Random believes in you.

[Randall]

Wide ranging knowledge.

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[Spencer Newhart]

All right, and now it's time for our Mountain Dew Questions of the week. Thanks to Mountain Dew, you get some bonus trivia in this week's episode. This does not count towards your score. It's just for bragging rights. Here they are. Question one for Mountain Dew's Questions of the Week. The topic is public lands. Mountain Dew was created in Tennessee just outside of what national park? We've got this question and then we've got one more after this. The Mountain Dew Questions of the Week. Mountain Dew was created in Tennessee just outside of what national park

[Maxwell]

does it say on the box?

[Spencer Newhart]

I don't think it says no boxy. No, it doesn't American do box. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Set says Daniel Boone Logan without an answer. Randall says Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Marge. Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Corey and Max say Great Smoky Mountains National Park. They got it. The correct answer is Great Smoky Mountains National Park.

[Maxwell]

I didn't have mountains, but I had great smoke.

[Spencer Newhart]

Born just outside side.

[Randall]

Remember, this doesn't count.

[Spencer Newhart]

That park. Our second Mountain Dew question of the week. The topic is mountain men. What mountain man was captured by pirates and the Pawnee before becoming a trapper? And it's multiple choice. Is it Hugh Glass, Jim Beckworth, or Jim Bridger? This is the Mountain Dew Mountain man question of the week. What mountain man was captured by pirates and and the Pawnee before becoming a trapper? Hugh Glass. Jim Beckworth or Jim Bridger?

[Maxwell]

I might go with.

[Spencer Newhart]

You know, I always just kind of assumed, like, a lot of the stuff in Parks and Recreation was just, like, made up, but like, Pawnee Indians are. Apparently that's a real thing. And they captured this person. Is everybody ready?

[Randall]

Most of the rest of that show is made up.

[Spencer Newhart]

Go ahead and reveal your answer. Seth says says Beckworth Logan. Hugh Glass. Randall. Hugh Glass. Marge. Jim Beckworth. Corey and Maxwell say Hugh Glass. They got it. The correct answer is Hugh Glass.

[Seth]

Those don't count.

[Spencer Newhart]

And Hugh Glass lived such an interesting life, they described him as the forest. What? The forest Gump of mountain men. Right, Randall?

[Randall]

I haven't heard that, but it makes sense.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. He was just all over the continent doing all kinds of crazy stuff. In.

[Randall]

In the Mountain Men audiobook, we describe Jim Bridger as the Forrest Gump of the American West.

[Spencer Newhart]

Well, maybe I have that. Maybe that's what I'm thinking.

[Randall]

But I think Hugh Glass is maybe a better case.

[Spencer Newhart]

But Bridger didn't spend any time with the pirates.

[Randall]

I know Bridger's later life, though. He's just involved. He's, like, involved in the Mormon wars and overland travel and all that stuff. But, yeah, Glass is a real interesting, real interesting case.

[Spencer Newhart]

Those were the Mountain Dew questions of the week. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew, an American original. Tasting great since 48. Look for American Dew limited time packaging in stores today.

[Maxwell]

I like that rhyme.

[Spencer Newhart]

Question 6. The topic is wildlife. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Adam Smith for sending this great question. Adam is going to get a $150 first light gift card. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to Trivia atthe meat eater.com this seven letter gland is defined as the specialized organ that produces milk in mammals. A couple of new and incoming dads

[Maxwell]

knew about this one.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Maxwell, do you have seven letters?

[Maxwell]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. He was just at a baby appointment recently. It should help him. Today's question. This seven letter gland is defined as the specialized organ that produces milk in mammals. Corey, do you have this one right? I don't think I spelled it correctly, but you're gonna get it. Okay.

[Maxwell]

Yeah. Is it that letter?

[Spencer Newhart]

Is everybody ready?

[Seth]

It don't matter.

[Spencer Newhart]

Marge, are you drawing something for us or are you writing an answer?

[Maxwell]

I can't tell.

[Randall]

Marge is a doodle she's drawing, but it's a. A moot cow.

[Seth]

Okay.

[Logan]

Yeah.

[Maxwell]

It's not what you guys think.

[Spencer Newhart]

Go ahead and reveal your answers.

[Seth]

Seth.

[Spencer Newhart]

Mammary.

[Seth]

That's right.

[Spencer Newhart]

Logan. Lactate. Randall. Mammary.

[Logan]

I forgot.

[Spencer Newhart]

Marge. Mammary. Corey says mammary. Maxwell. Mammary. The correct answer is mammary gland. M A M, M A R, Y.

[Seth]

Beautiful. There was three different spellings. I.

[Spencer Newhart]

Which one did you land on? Was it correct?

[Seth]

Did you do.

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[Seth]

No, it wasn't correct.

[Spencer Newhart]

Mammary glands are what make a mammal a mammal. In most male mammals, the mammary glands are underdeveloped and unused. But some species of bat have males that lactate and produce milk for offspring. The same phenomenon has been occasionally witnessed in goats. Question 7. The topic is hunting. This next great question is via Nathan Deason. This man who died at the Battle of Little Bighorn once accidentally shot his horse while while hunting bison. This man who died at the Battle of Little Bighorn once accidentally shot his horse while hunting bison. Seth, Corey, Randall.

[Randall]

I can't name them all, but I'm answer. I'm willing to guess that there were multiple combatants that day that had done

[Spencer Newhart]

this exact thing that you think they shot their horse while hunting bison and they died at the Battle of Little Bighorn?

[Randall]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

If you could. If you could find me some other examples.

[Randall]

It's like getting into a fender bender.

[Spencer Newhart]

This is fairly common.

[Seth]

You have experience with this? Yeah.

[Randall]

If you spend your life as an equestrian, bison hunter, I feel like at some point you're going to accidentally shoot

[Spencer Newhart]

your horse and die at the Battle of Blue Bighorn.

[Randall]

Yeah.

[Maxwell]

You know how some people use horses to hunt antelope? Was that what they were doing? Same thing.

[Spencer Newhart]

Hiding behind or talk about it in the flavor text.

[Seth]

It's kind of like when someone basically shoots their rifle through the floor of their car.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah, yeah. Shoots a toe off But I would

[Randall]

guess that this is more common. I don't know. I feel like I'd be shooting my horse all the time.

[Maxwell]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

This man who died at the Battle of Little.

[Randall]

How often do you accidentally honk your horn?

[Spencer Newhart]

Hey, Rand will be changing horses like he changes his underwear every other week, twice a year. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Custer. Logan without an answer. Randall says Custer. Marge without an answer. Corey and Maxwell say General Custer. The correct answer is George Custer. Although you could probably find someone else who fits this criteria, and I'll give you that point if you're able to. Custer told the story in his 1887 book, My Life on the Plains. He was riding his favorite favorite horse, Custis Lee, while hunting antelope with his five greyhounds on the Kansas prairie. The antelope were losing him when Custer spotted a big bison. He then pursued the bull. And after a three mile chase, Custer readied his revolver. But just as he pulled the trigger, the buffalo swerved into Custer's horse, sending the bullet right into Custis Lee's head. The horse died instantly and the bison got away. Here's a picture Phil has of General Custer. This was three years before his last stand. This was a bull that he killed by Yellowstone. A whopper of a point bull.

[Seth]

The anniversary is coming up.

[Spencer Newhart]

That's your anniversary, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Maxwell]

Good.

[Spencer Newhart]

Good for you, Seth. Now you'll never forget the battle.

[Seth]

Yeah, that Steve did. Of course.

[Maxwell]

That's pretty funny.

[Spencer Newhart]

Question 8. The topic is fishing. This dental term refers to the controversial fishing technique where anglers try to swing a leader into the mouth of a salmon that's swimming upstream. Maxwell, Randall, Seth, already have their answer. This dental term refers to the controversial fishing technique where anglers try to swing a leader into the mouth of a salmon that's swimming upstream. Randall, have you ever participated in this root canal?

[Randall]

Oh, yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

You have? Okay. Did you feel okay about it?

[Randall]

I mean, I don't like for sockeye. You really need to do this the only way. I was never good at it. Terrible. Sockeye fishermen, much to my dismay, because they're very tasty. But yeah, I mean, guys that are good at this are just.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah. When you see people doing it, it's easy to understand, like how somebody could be good or bad at it. It's a very specific technique. Will you make that noise again?

[Randall]

What was that?

[Spencer Newhart]

This dental term refers to the controversial fishing technique where anglers try to swing a leader into the mouth of a salmon that's swimming upstream. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Logan and Randall say flossing.

[Logan]

I guess.

[Spencer Newhart]

Marge says flossing, Corey says snagging, Maxwell says flossing.

[Randall]

Very different.

[Spencer Newhart]

The correct answer is flossing.

[Maxwell]

Some people consider it snagging, though.

[Spencer Newhart]

I mean, that's what I call salmon. Flossing is also known as flipping. It's where anglers use a weighted leader that's drifted through the path of sockeye salmon. When it works, the current pulls the line through the fish's mouth until the hook reaches its jaw. Fish caught while flossing aren't biting the hook. Instead, it's more like snagging them in the mouth. Flossing is illegal in Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho, but Alaska does allow it.

[Maxwell]

I thought they'd put a bead there too. And the fish like, goes for the

[Spencer Newhart]

bead and then I don't think there's any illusion.

[Randall]

No, they're not.

[Spencer Newhart]

They're not pursuing a bait.

[Randall]

Yeah, they're not really going for it at all. You're literally trying to just get them in front of the gill plate.

[Seth]

Yeah. Okay.

[Spencer Newhart]

Like the line is like kind of literally passing through their mouth, right? Yeah. Until the hook reaches.

[Randall]

Yeah. Cuz Sakai, really? I mean, it's hard to say because I've had. I've caught sockeye on like big plugs before that they actually hit. But for the most part, the conventional wisdom is that they're not going to bite anything.

[Spencer Newhart]

Again. Like almost the entire PNW says, no, you cannot do that. But Alaska allows it. I feel like you see videos where dudes are like as close as Max is to Logan away and they're flossing in a. In a river. All right, we have two questions left. Phil, give us a scoreboard update.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Standings have changed a bit. Marge has three points, Max has four. And we have Logan and Corey tied up with five. Logan seems like has tied his previous high score.

[Spencer Newhart]

Hell yeah.

[Maxwell]

I mean, count those Mountain Dew questions.

[Phil (Engineer)]

We didn't count them. Seth has pulled ahead with. He's got six points. And then Dr. Randall is in first place with seven.

[Randall]

Seth's going for a back to back win after a poorly officiated game of trivia last week.

[Seth]

That was a great game.

[Randall]

Well, there's some doubts.

[Spencer Newhart]

Question 9. The topic is gear. This next great question is Ryan Nisley. Jim Crumley sold the tree bark camel pattern to this brand in 2000. Jim Crumley sold the tree bark camo pattern to this brand in 2000. Max is making eyes at Seth. Do you two like your answers?

[Maxwell]

I don't know. Let's see here, Seth.

[Seth]

I'll show you. When he says flip them.

[Spencer Newhart]

Randall, do you have this one right?

[Randall]

I don't know.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. Seth seems to like his. Seth, do you have this one right? I'm in the neighborhood.

[Seth]

I think I'm. I think 50. 50.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. This could even things up.

[Maxwell]

I just thought of one right now.

[Spencer Newhart]

Seth gets it right and Randall gets it wrong.

[Randall]

I'm in the neighborhood.

[Podcast Announcer]

Geez.

[Spencer Newhart]

Jim Crumley sold the tree bark camo pattern to this brand in 2000.

[Maxwell]

Which one?

[Randall]

Oh, Jim Crumley. I thought you said Jim Brumley. It's all very valuable context.

[Maxwell]

Which is?

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah.

[Randall]

Which is who?

[Spencer Newhart]

Jim Crumley. Seems like a man who would invent the tree bark camel pattern.

[Randall]

That's a great name.

[Seth]

Old Crumley. Old Man Crumbly. And it's Old Man Crumbly.

[Randall]

I hope a guy named Jerry Crumley cashed out and retired after this.

[Spencer Newhart]

Is everybody ready?

[Seth]

What if he's still alive?

[Spencer Newhart]

Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says real tree. Logan Deep timber. Randall Mossy oak. Marge Mossy oak. Cordy Mossy oak. Maxwell Realtree. The correct answer.

[Maxwell]

Bottomland's been around for longer.

[Spencer Newhart]

Is mossy. Oh, dang it. I think we had three of our friends.

[Seth]

That's what I was thinking, too.

[Maxwell]

Bottomland's been around for longer than that.

[Spencer Newhart]

I thought Masioka was around for a while. Or it's Haas Outdoors. Haas Outdoors owns real tree. Or excuse me, Hoss Outdoors owns mossy mossy oak. Bought the tree bark camo.

[Maxwell]

Are they talking about bottomland there?

[Spencer Newhart]

No, they're different. But if you look at. Phil's gonna pull up a picture here of tree bark. It looks exactly like bottomland. This came out first. Jim Crumley invented the famous tree bark camel pattern in 1979. He felt that nothing on the market was brown enough or gray enough to blend in with the forest in fall. So he created tree bark, with which became the first commercially produced hunting camo. When the pattern showed up in a 1983 Cabela's catalog, Crumley was no longer able to keep up with demand. It became one of the most popular camos of the 80s and 90s, with Mossy Oak acquiring it in 2000. So it looks very much like Bottomlands. Bottomlands came out second.

[Seth]

That's what I was thinking of.

[Spencer Newhart]

So that is the tree bark green. I believe this is the real tree pattern. Oh, okay. That is not tree bark. This is the OG Tree bark. There was Also a tree bark green, I think some leaves in it that looked a lot like that.

[Maxwell]

Phil, can you go back to the question for a second?

[Spencer Newhart]

What's the matter, Rexo?

[Maxwell]

Okay, I just. Classic me. I just read the question wrong.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yeah.

[Spencer Newhart]

All right, here's a correct answer review so far. One was a 67.5 gauge shotgun. Two crappie minnows. Three, black mamba. Four, forest fen. Five Darwin awards. Six, mammary gland. Seven, George Custer. Eight, flossing. Nine, mossy oak. Phil, scoreboard update.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Randall has locked it in. He's got eight points with only one question left. The next person, people behind him are Seth and Corey. They have six.

[Spencer Newhart]

Logan still at five, going for his pb. You know, we got. I don't know if there's a way to look that up, but I might have gotten more than five.

[Randall]

I think you have, man. I had one.

[Maxwell]

It's gotta be six.

[Randall]

I feel like you're more of a dark horse than you think.

[Spencer Newhart]

Thanks, Randall. Question 10. The topic is cooking. Fatty fish such as salmon are high in this nine letter hormone that's nicknamed the quote hormone of darkness because it helps your body get ready for sleep.

[Maxwell]

Ooh.

[Spencer Newhart]

Fatty fish such as salmon are high in this nine letter hormone that's nicknamed the hormone of darkness because it helps your body get ready for sleep. Randall, do you have this one right?

[Randall]

I think so.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay.

[Randall]

I think so.

[Spencer Newhart]

Rest of the room is doing some hangman on their whiteboards. Seth, do you have this one right?

[Seth]

I think so.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay.

[Seth]

But also, I might not. I don't know.

[Randall]

It's a good question.

[Seth]

I'm just trying to beat Corey at this point.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah, you are. Corey, do you have this one right? I don't know. Fatty fish such as salmon are high in this nine letter hormone that's nicknamed the hormone of darkness because it helps your body get ready for sleep. By nickname in high school, the hormone

[Randall]

of darkness sounds way tougher than what I'm thinking.

[Spencer Newhart]

I'm the hormone of darkness. That one sounds more figurative than literal, but in this case, it's literal.

[Maxwell]

I've had like three different answers on my board.

[Spencer Newhart]

Excited to hear what they all look max.

[Randall]

I am

[Spencer Newhart]

having a serious hot flash.

[Randall]

Put my nine letters on the whiteboard or forever something.

[Spencer Newhart]

Logan, do you have this one right?

[Logan]

I think so.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay. Logan, pb. Marge, you have this one right?

[Logan]

I have a good guess.

[Spencer Newhart]

What'd you doodle for us down there?

[Logan]

A hangman?

[Spencer Newhart]

All right, is everybody ready? Oh, sure. Go ahead and reveal your answers, Seth. Melatonin.

[Maxwell]

Logan.

[Spencer Newhart]

Melatonin. Randall. Melatonin. Marge. Melatonin. Corey Tryptophan. Maxwell. Magnesium. The correct answer is melatonin.

[Maxwell]

Shoot.

[Phil (Engineer)]

Yes.

[Spencer Newhart]

Melatonin is stimulated by darkness and suppressed by light. Its levels begin to rise in the evening, peak overnight, and fall in the morning. Melatonin doesn't force you to sleep, but it does tell your body that it's time to rest. Besides salmon, other foods high in melatonin are pistachios, walnuts, cherries, bananas, milk, eggs, and sardines. So, Maxwell, you shouldn't be having your sardine egg and milk lunch anymore. No, otherwise.

[Maxwell]

That's why my magnesium.

[Spencer Newhart]

Or your magnesium.

[Maxwell]

But good thing I got this Mountain Dew.

[Seth]

It's funny that eggs are breakfast.

[Maxwell]

Big egg.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah, big egg. Like Randall down there.

[Seth]

Yeah, big egg.

[Spencer Newhart]

Yeah, it's true.

[Logan]

Max, if you and I share a brain cell, I think we won.

[Randall]

Yeah, that's true.

[Maxwell]

And the Mountain Dew questions? We would have won for sure.

[Logan]

I did beat. My office.

[Spencer Newhart]

Okay, well done. Today's winner is Randall. He got nine correct answers.

[Maxwell]

I don't come to win.

[Spencer Newhart]

I couldn't have thought.

[Randall]

Some people try to give me a 10th point.

[Spencer Newhart]

We tried to give you the perfect game, but you wouldn't take the Crappie Chub Minnow.

[Randall]

In hindsight, I wish I'd taken that. Not to give extra money to conservation, but just for bookkeeping purposes.

[Spencer Newhart]

For your ego.

[Randall]

Just to keep track of.

[Maxwell]

I might start calling you that. Crappy Chub.

[Spencer Newhart]

All right, Crappie Chub, what are you gonna do with that $500 donation?

[Randall]

Let's give the $500 to the Western Habitat Foundation.

[Spencer Newhart]

Oh, I think that's a new one on the show. What do we like about that?

[Randall]

I think I've given money to them before.

[Spencer Newhart]

Remind us of their mission.

[Randall]

They every year they do projects on public lands to improve habitat. A bunch of these in recent they've done stuff in North Dakota and New Mexico, but in recent years, been going out to Fort Peck and pulling fence from the cmr. Just old abandoned fence that impedes wildlife movement. So I was out there this past weekend and got to spend some quality time out in some beautiful country. And it's just very classic boots on the ground conservation work.

[Spencer Newhart]

Well done, Randall. $500.

[Maxwell]

Nice, Randall.

[Randall]

Thanks, guys.

[Spencer Newhart]

Crappie Chub. Away from him being a thousand Crappie Chub Never forget. Join us next week for more meat eater trivia. The only game show where conservation always ends. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth, mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks and he's an avid amateur rock hound.

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