The Trials of Claus von Bülow: The Black Bag — Ep. 2 | MK Confidential

Summary

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The Megyn Kelly Show

Episode Title: A Double Dose of Privilege: The Black Bag — Ep. 2 | MK Confidential
Release Date: July 29, 2026
Host: Megyn Kelly (SiriusXM)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "MK Confidential" delves deep into the infamous Klaus von Bülow case, focusing on the dramatic investigation and the first trial. Through compelling storytelling, Megyn Kelly reconstructs the events that led to von Bülow’s arrest and conviction for the attempted murder of his wealthy wife, Sunny. The narrative centers on detective work, courtroom intrigue, and the complicated interplay of wealth, privilege, and justice. The episode ends with the stage set for the next chapter: the appeal, to be informed by new legal minds.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Investigation: The Black Bag and Detective Work

[01:02–03:34]

• Surveillance and Confrontation:
  Detective Jack Reese and his partner stake out Klaus von Bülow, then confront him directly in Manhattan. Reese’s strategy is to catch Klaus off guard:

  “I didn't want an interview where he had an opportunity to think over what he would say to us. So I thought that the best way to do that was to take him by surprise. He was obviously very nervous.”
  — Detective Reese [01:25]

• The “Black Bag” Clue:
  A key question about Sonny’s possible insulin use prompts Klaus’s telling reaction:

  “By God, that's the last thing she would need.”
  — Klaus von Bülow (as recounted by Reese) [01:52]

• Searching the House:
  Police follow Klaus to the Newport mansion, search his closet, and find evidence (a black metal box) referencing the mysterious “black bag.” While Klaus attempts to retrieve it, the bag is already gone, in police custody.

• No Smoking Gun, But Mounting Suspicion:
  The police have only circumstantial evidence but are confident:

  “We surmised that he hadn't found the black bag and he was probably a little concerned that he may have misplaced him.”
  — Detective Reese [03:34]

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2. The Charges and The Media Circus

[04:29–08:00]

• Indictment and Arraignment:
  A grand jury indicts Klaus on two counts of attempted murder, corresponding to two Christmas “comas.” Klaus pleads not guilty and is released on bail.

• A Historic Televised Trial:
  Rhode Island allows cameras into the courtroom, making the case a national obsession:

  “A crime story the whole nation can watch nearly gavel to gavel, like a soap opera. A maid, a mistress, a fortune, a needle and an aristocratic silent defendant the state calls an attempted murderer.”
  — Megyn Kelly (Narrator) [06:28]

• An Unusual Jury:
  Instead of Klaus’s social peers, the jury consists of working-class, mostly Catholic Rhode Islanders, raising doubts among the defense about possible biases.

• Public Opinion Divided:
  Newport society and the public are split; some support Klaus (“Free Klaus” buttons), others believe he’s guilty as charged.

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3. Family Loyalties and Emotional Stakes

[08:00–09:40]

• Family Divide:
  Sonny’s two children (from a previous marriage) drive the case against Klaus. The only family supporter for Klaus is Cosima, his daughter with Sunny.

• Cosima’s Loyalty:

  “There was never a time where I doubted it… seeing him with the lawyers saying, you can investigate anything, I really don't have anything to hide, was enough for me to believe it.”
  — Cosima von Bülow (as recounted) [09:30]

• Klaus’s Reserve:
  Journalists remark on Klaus’s eerie calm and distance during the trial, which becomes a topic itself.

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4. The Prosecution's Case: Motive and Evidence

[10:00–16:00]

• Prosecutor’s Framing:

  “State will prove [it] was a clandestine, subtle and ingenious attempt on the part of her husband… to murder her by secretly injecting her with a drug called insulin.”
  — Prosecutor Stephen Familietti [09:50 paraphrased]

• Challenge of Circumstantial Evidence:

  “I thought it was an extremely difficult case… primarily because it was a circumstantial evidence case… no eyewitnesses… so much medical testimony.”
  — Detective Reese [10:50]

• Star Witnesses:

  • Alexander, Sonny’s Son: Testifies to marital troubles, infidelity, and motives.
  • Ala, Sonny’s Daughter: Testifies about Sunny’s emotional distress and consideration of divorce.
  • Maria Schrelhammer, the Maid: The “most important witness,” testifying about the black bag, vials, and insulin found where it did not belong:

    “She describes the black bag, the vials and the small bottle hold of insulin… Maria is a small, plain spoken woman with a heavy German accent, and by common agreement she is the most important witness the state has.”
    — Megyn Kelly [13:00]

  • Dr. Richard Stock & Dr. George Cahill: Medical experts argue the comas were induced by externally administered insulin.

• Financial Motive:
  The family banker, Morris Gurley, details Klaus’s massive financial incentive—inheritance of $14 million if Sunny dies, compared to almost nothing in a divorce.

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5. The Defense’s Case and Counterarguments

[16:30–19:00]

• Defense Strategy:
  Argues there was no crime—Sunny’s own habits and possible self-harm, plus drinking and medications, caused her comas.

• Alternative Explanations:
  Joy O’Neill, a former exercise instructor, claims Sunny told her she used insulin to lose weight, but her story is later undercut by evidence of limited contact.

• Attacking the Evidence:
  The defense highlights irregularities in how the black bag was collected and the lack of fingerprint testing:

  “Had fingerprints been taken off of that bag, off of those vials, off of those needles… Wouldn't that be important to you?”
  — Defense Attorney Faringer [18:46]

• Klaus Stays Silent:
  The defendant never takes the stand. His legal team focuses on cross-examination rather than mounting a substantive alternative narrative.

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6. The Verdict and Aftermath

[19:00–22:00]

• Jury Deliberation:
  The jury is out for six days, fueling rumors of discord and a possible hung decision.

• Verdict:
  The jury finds Klaus von Bülow guilty on both counts. The moment is charged and dramatic:

  “There are audible gasps in the courtroom. Klaus does not move. The cameras catch only a few flicker across his face. A small Twitch there and gone.”
  — Megyn Kelly [21:40]

• Sentencing:
  Klaus receives thirty years in prison but remains free on bail pending appeal.

• The Family’s Statement:

  “We feel very strongly that he tried twice to murder our mother. We believe that he deprived her of life as we know it, deprived her of many years of happiness.”
  — Sonny’s children [22:30]

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Notable Quotes

• Detective Jack Reese, on catching Klaus off guard:

  “I didn't want an interview where he had an opportunity to think over what he would say to us. So I thought that the best way to do that was to take him by surprise.” [01:25]

• Klaus von Bülow’s reaction to the insulin question:

  “By God, that's the last thing she would need.” [01:52]

• Cosima von Bülow, on her unwavering belief in her father:

  “There was never a time where I doubted it… seeing him go through the anguish of it all… was enough for me to believe it.” [09:30]

• Defense’s tact on missing fingerprints:

  “Had fingerprints been taken off of that bag, off of those vials, off of those needles… Wouldn't that be important to you?” [18:46]

• Narrator Megyn Kelly, on the story’s arc:

  “A cash poor Danish aristocrat marries a wealthy heiress, lives lavishly on her fortune, falls in love with another woman and stands to inherit $14 million if his wife dies twice at Christmas in the same house. The state says he tried to collect.” [22:45]

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Memorable Moments & Turning Points

• Discovery of the “Black Bag” [02:11 – 03:34]: The search for the titular bag, leading to the key physical evidence in the case.
• Maria Schrelhammer’s testimony [13:00]: The maid’s calm, credible account is cited as the most influential evidence for the jury.
• Verdict Announcement [21:40]: High drama as the courtroom reacts to the guilty decision—a landmark moment captured on camera.

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Important Timestamps

• [01:02] – Detective Jack Reese begins recounting surveillance and first confrontation with Klaus.
• [03:41] – Police search in Newport; find the black metal box and the term “black bag.”
• [04:29] – Klaus is indicted and pleads not guilty.
• [06:28] – The opening of this highly publicized, televised trial.
• [12:30] – Alexander and Ala testify on family breakdown and motive.
• [13:00] – Maria Schrelhammer's pivotal testimony.
• [14:19] – Dr. Stock’s expert testimony on insulin injection.
• [16:30] – Defense initiates their argument, introducing uncertainties.
• [18:46] – Defense critique on lack of fingerprint evidence.
• [21:40] – The jury announces their verdict.
• [22:30] – Sonny’s children’s emotional response.

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Episode Conclusion & Tease for Next Installment

The episode closes by underscoring that, despite Klaus’s conviction, the story is not over. Legal scholars are poised to reexamine the evidence—a preview for the next episode, promising fresh questions and new perspectives beyond the jury’s initial narrative.

“Everything the first jury believed, the maid's memory, the needle, the blood test, the $14 million is about to be examined again, only this time by a Harvard law professor and 18 of his best and brightest students. And they are going to find questions no one in that first courtroom even thought to ask…”
— Megyn Kelly [22:55]

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For listeners new to the case, this episode offers a gripping, accessible, and detailed chronicle of a high-society crime saga—one that set legal and media precedents, with lives and fortunes hanging in the balance. Stay tuned for the academic re-investigation next episode.

Transcript

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[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

Lieutenant Detective Jack Reese of the Rhode Island State Police and his partner are staking out Claes von Bulow. They are set up outside the von Bulow's place in Manhattan when Klaus finally comes up on the sidewalk outside the couple's Fifth Avenue apartment. The detective quickly confronts him, questioning him with no warning and no lawyers around.

[Detective Jack Reese]

I didn't want an interview where he had an opportunity to think over what he would say to us. So I thought that the best way to do that was to take him by surprise. He was obviously very nervous.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

Near the end, the detective slips in one more question, almost an afterthought, whether Sonny would ever have had a reason to use insulin. Years later, Jack Reese describes the exchange to journalist Bill Curtis.

[Detective Jack Reese]

You know, yeah, it's kind of a ridiculous question. And I said, you don't suppose that your wife were using insulin for any reason? And he said, by God, that's the last thing she would need.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

That clinched it for the detective.

[Detective Jack Reese]

I said to my partner, mark my words, he's going back for that black back.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

Within three days, Detective Reese's prediction comes true. Klaus Bombulo drives back up to Newport, Rhode island, to Clarendon Court, the shuttered oceanfront mansion where Sonny collapsed. The state police follow Klaus this with a warrant. Rhys rings the bell for a second interview. And while two detectives keep Klaus talking in one room, other cops go through the house. During the search, officers make several observations on the Desk in Klaus's study. One of them notices a scratch pad. Two words are written on it. Black box. Then officers come upon Klaus's closet standing open and unlocked. Inside it, police find a small black metal box with the one Maria had described. The box that held the little black bag. Sometime during the police interview, Klaus excuses himself for a few minutes when the detectives look again. The closet has been relocked and the scratch pad is gone. But the bag is not in that box. It has not been for weeks. Sonny's grown son from her first marriage, Alexander, and a locksmith have already carried it out. And by now it is in an evidence room in Providence. Whatever Klaus went upstairs to do, he came back down without it.

[Detective Jack Reese]

We surmised that he hadn't found the black bag and he was probably a little concerned that he may have misplaced him.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

The detectives never saw Klaus open that closet and they never saw him reach for the bag. What they had was a relocked door, a now missing notepad, and. And a man who had driven 90 miles to a closed up house in January. It is not proof, but it's enough for Detective Jack Reese. A year before, all the family had was a maid's bad feeling about a case full of pills. Now the state of Rhode island has the bag, the needle inside it, and a suspect. I'm Megyn Kelly. This is MK Confidential. AI can clone your voice, forge your signature, even create fake documents that fool experts. And criminals are using these tools right now to potentially steal from you.

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[Detective Jack Reese]

You are charged with two counts. Count one, assault, intent to commit murder. Count two, assault for the 10th murder. How do you play? I'm not guilty.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

The trial opens in Newport in February of 1982. The state has to prove two separate crimes a year apart. The Christmas Sunny nearly died in 1979 and the Christmas she did not wake up in 1980.

[Detective Jack Reese]

State ready to proceed? Yes, you, Honor. The state is ready to proceed, Ben. And ready proceed.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

Yes, we are. Rhode island has just let television cameras into its courtrooms. So the trial of Klaus von Bulow becomes something the country has never quite seen. A crime story the whole nation can watch nearly gavel to gavel, like a soap opera. A maid, a mistress, a fortune, a needle and an aristocratic silent defendant the state calls an attempted murderer. Downtown Newport becomes, in the words of one man who was there, a madhouse. The old colonial state house beside the courthouse is turned into a press center. Sketch artists and reporters fight for one of the 80 seats inside. The jury that files in is not made up of Newport's summer people. It is drawn from the year round town, working Rhode Islanders, mostly Catholic. It's the kind of jury Klaus own side privately doubts can ever be a jury of his peers. And at the center of it, ramrod straight and immaculate, sits Klaus Vambulo, giving the reporters almost nothing except now and then a dry line about the spectacle he has become.

[Detective Jack Reese]

This simply is the first time I'd ever been exposed to the media. It was new to me and I. I think I belong to the kind of people who like to be in the newspaper the day they are born, the day they get married and the day they die. I suddenly realized that this was a futile wish.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

For weeks, the trial is the best show in the country. The networks carry it on CNN. More than 300,000 viewers routinely tune in. A lot for that time. When actress Alexandra Iles of the hit TV show Dark Shadows takes the stand, the audience climbs past. 600,000 newspaper artists sketch Klaus in his dark well cut suits. And strangers gather on the courthouse steps. Some of them wearing buttons that read Free Klaus, others just as sure he is exactly what the state says he is an attempted murderer. The town of Newport itself cannot agree. The old families who summer behind the same hedges are split down the middle over whether the man is a wronged husband or a fortune hunter who finally reached too far. And. And they say so at their dinner tables. And to any reporter who will write it down. Klaus has pleaded not guilty. He makes one more choice that will shape the whole trial. He will never take the stand. Across the whole trial, the jury, the 12 people deciding his fate, will not hear a single word from the accused. Inside the family, the sides are already fixed. Sonny's two older children brought the case. Ala and Alexander. The only person in the family standing with Klaus is Cosima, the daughter he and Sonny had together, still just a teenager. There was never a time where I doubted it.

[Detective Jack Reese]

And

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

we would always talk openly about what was going on. And just seeing him go through the anguish of it all and seeing him with the lawyers saying, you can investigate anything, I really don't have anything to hide, was enough for me to believe it. Klaus sits through it all with a stillness that unsettles the people around him. He is unfailingly courteous to the reporters in the hallway. Dominic Dunn covers the trial for Vanity Fair magazine, whose readers cannot get enough. He describes a defendant who seems like less like a man fighting for his life than a man watching, with mild interest, a drama about someone else. The prosecutor is Stephen Familietti, and in his opening, he tells the jury exactly what the state means to prove. State will prove was a clandestine, subtle and ingenious attempt on the part of her husband, Klaus von Bulow, to germinate her life, to murder her by secretly injecting her with a drug called insulin. It is a large promise, and Familietti knows the case is harder than it sounds. No eyewitnesses, no confession, A woman in a coma who cannot testify, and weeks of medical testimony ahead of him.

[Detective Jack Reese]

I thought it was an extremely difficult case. And primarily because it was a circumstantial evidence case, meaning that there were no eyewitnesses to the alleged criminal conduct and there was so much medical testimony.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

The tougher job for the state is the first coma, the one from which Sonny recovered. To make it a crime and not just a bad night, Familietti has to convince the jury that this was a first attempt, a rehearsal for the next Christmas when it worked.

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[Detective Jack Reese]

My stepfather said that after my younger sister was born, my mother was unable to have sex and that he looked towards other women.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

Did he mention any other woman? One woman in particular. Alexandra Isles, his sister. Ala takes the stand and tells the jury why her mother had begun talking about a divorce. She felt he was on the verge of a nervous breakdown, that he was blaming her for the fact that he'd been having no success in his professional life. Then comes Maria Schrelhammer, sonny's maid of 23 years. Maria has never once sat in a witness box, and when she climbs into one now in a Newport courtroom in front of the television cameras and a nation leaning in, she is going to do the one thing no detective and no doctor in this case can do. She is going to look 12 jurors in the eye and tell them plainly what she saw inside that house. She describes the black bag, the vials and the small bottle hold of insulin. She says she found among the belongings of a woman who had low blood sugar, which can be caused by too much insulin and thus had no use for any more of it. Maria is a small, plain spoken woman with a heavy German accent, and by common agreement she is the most important witness the state has. She does not raise her voice, she just tells the jury what she saw. The defense cross examines her over parts of two days and does not move her a single inch. Then the doctors, Sonny's own physician of nearly three decades, Dr. Richard Stock, tells the jury what he believed had been

[Detective Jack Reese]

done to her was the surreptitious administration of insulin.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

One of the country's foremost authorities on insulin Dr. George Cahill of Harvard testifies that the second coma bears the mark of an injection, one that no illness in Sonny's own body could produce. The state puts the physical evidence beside him. The used needle from the black bag, which the family's own doctor has found carried insulin at its tip. And it puts a number in front of the jury. A blood test drawn the morning Sonny was admitted showing an insulin level of 216, many times higher than normal, next to a blood sugar that had crashed toward nothing. Then the family's banker, Morris Gurley, the trust officer who ran Sonny's fortune, gives the jury the arithmetic. If Sonny dies, Klaus stands to inherit about $14 million. If they divorce, the prenuptial agreement leaves him with almost nothing. Sonny, alive and divorced from Klaus is worth next to nothing to him. Sonny dead is worth a fortune. The black bag itself is entered into evidence, its small pharmacy laid out on a table for the jury to look at. The vials, the syringes and the used needle the state calls the attempted murder weapon. The medical case runs on for weeks. Doctors for the state and doctors for the defense take the jury down into blood sugar readings and insulin levels and the exact chemistry of a body shutting down, each side certain of the opposite conclusion. It is slow, technical and fiercely disputed. What the jurors can weigh more plainly is the maid, the money and the black bag on the table in front of them. Then the state calls the other woman, Alexandra Isles. The mistress takes the stand, and the prosecutor asks her in front of the cameras whether she still thinks the charges against the man she loved are nonsense.

[Detective Jack Reese]

You still think it's back of nonsense?

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[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

I didn't hear that answer. I don't know. Let me ask you this long last question, Mrs. Isles. Maybe you can answer. Do you still love the defender?

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[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

The defense is offered the chance to cross examine her and turns it down. Klaus's lead lawyer, Harold Price Faringer, tells the court he will not put Mrs. Isles through any more questioning. The line going around the courthouse is that a gentleman does not permit the cross examination of his lover. She steps down. The defense's case is that there was no crime here at all. That Sunny, with her drinking her aspirin, her sedatives, and her failing blood sugar, had done this to herself. What happened to her was not anyone's fault but her own.

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[Detective Jack Reese]

this case if the truth is to prevail.

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

To account for the insulin, the defense calls a former exercise instructor named Joy o', Neill, who testifies that Sunny once told her years earlier that she injected insulin herself to keep her weight down. It is the innocent account the defense has been looking for. Then the prosecution produces the exercise studio's own appointment cards. They show o' Neill had given Sonny a handful of sessions only, not the hundreds she had just described under oath. Beyond o', Neill, the defense is thin. Klaus doesn't testify. His lawyers spend most of their case picking at the state's witnesses rather than putting up their own defense and pressing the single argument they have that a secretive, self medicating woman who drank and swallowed aspirin by the fistful was the only person who ever did Sonny von Bulow any harm. In his closing defense, attorney Farringer goes after the way the black bag went was found a private search run by a family that already believed Klaus guilty. With no police in the room and no fingerprints ever lifted. Had fingerprints been taken off of that bag, off of those vials, off of

[Detective Jack Reese]

those needles, and Martha von Bulow's fingerprints

[Narrator (Megyn Kelly)]

were on those vials and on those needles, Wouldn't that be important to you? It's a fair question and it is the one the defense will build an entire second trial around. But in this courtroom, the prosecutor answers it and gets the last word. Why would they call a Hollochman, bringing a Dr. McLaren in court with them, knowing that that was their intention, that they were going to plant something like a flatbed? In his summation, Familietti reduces the case by to one question, not a menu of innocent explanations. He tells the jurors one thing, true or false? Did Klaus von Bulow try to murder his wife? The jury goes out. One day passes, then a second. Outside the courthouse, the two camps sit. Sonny's grown children wait on one side, while Klaus loyalists and the reporters who have covered every hour of the trial on the other. No one can read the silence coming out of the jury room. A third day, a fourth. The longer it runs, the more the whispers start that the jury is divided, that the case could end in a hung jury. That after everything, the state may not have convinced all 12 jurors. A fifth day comes and goes. Then, on the sixth day, a verdict. The courtroom fills past Klaus in his usual chair, his daughter Cosima not far away, the cameras running. It is the morning of March 16, 1982. The jury finds that the defendant, Klaus Van Bureau, guilty. Guilty on both counts. There are audible gasps in the courtroom. Klaus does not move. The cameras catch only a few flicker across his face. A small Twitch there and gone. Weeks later, a judge will sentence him to 30 years, 10 for the 1979 coma and 20 for 1980, and lets him stay free on a million dollar bail while he appeals. Outside the courthouse, Sonny's children say what they have believed from the start. We feel very strongly that he tried twice to murder our mother. We believe that he deprived her of life as we know it, deprived her of many years of happiness. And that is the story. A cash poor Danish aristocrat marries a wealthy heiress, lives lavishly on her fortune, falls in love with another woman and stands to inherit $14 million if his wife dies twice at Christmas in the same house. The state says he tried to collect. A maid noticed the bottle that did not belong. The woman's children refused to let it go. And 12 ordinary people from Rhode island looked past the title and the accent and convicted him. The system worked. A rich man tried to murder his wife and he was caught. Case closed. Except it isn't. Because the case does not end here. Not by a long shot. Everything the first jury believed, the maid's memory, the needle, the blood test, the $14 million is about to be examined again, only this time by a Harvard law professor and 18 of his best and brightest students. And they are going to find questions no one in that first courtroom even thought to ask. Just over two weeks after the guilty verdict, before Klaus has even been sentenced, the phone rings in the professor's office on April Fool's Day. The man on the line says he has just been convicted of trying to murder his wife and he wants the professor to take his case. The professor is certain it is a prank. He almost hangs up the phone. But then that's next time on MK Confidential, where we speak to the professor directly.

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