
The Trump Administration secures a series of concessions from Columbia University, University of Maine System, and a top left law firm. The Atlantic drops a bombshell about a Trump administration national security group chat that their editor-in-chief somehow was added to accidentally. ICE arrests 370 illegal aliens in Boston during a five-day sweep targeting sanctuary city policies that federal officials say endanger public safety. President Trump slams Colorado Governor Jared Polis over an unflattering portrait in the State Capitol, calling it “purposefully distorted." Done with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn sent you! 120/Life: Go to https://120Life.com and use code MK to save 15%
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I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Tuesday, March 25, 2025, and this is your AM update. It wasn't even like, do all of this and you'll get your money back. It was do all of this and maybe we'll talk to you about getting your money back. The Trump administration securing a slate of wins against Columbia University, the main university system and Democrat linked law firm Paul Weiss.
Jeffrey Goldberg
I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic. It's to me, it's a magazine that's going out of business.
Megyn Kelly
Editor in chief of the Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg says he was accidentally added to a group chat discussing high level war plans among Trump administration top security officials. Border czar Tom Homan rounds up hundreds of criminal illegal aliens in Boston. And President Trump has a bone to pick with Colorado's governor over something you probably didn't see coming. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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President Trump securing a recent slate of victories against Columbia University, the state of Maine and the law firm Paul Weiss. Columbia University facing the loss of 400 million in federal funding giving in to the Trump administration's demands aimed at curbing on campus anti Semitism. The university rocked by violent anti Israel protests since the start of Israel's war against the Hamas terrorist organization that killed 1200 Israelis on 107 23. The university agreeing to implement a mask ban on campus. Protesters had used masks to shield their identities and to require that protesters identify themselves when asked or face disciplinary action. The New York Post reporting 36 campus cops also now empowered to arrest students or remove them from the campus when necessary. Previously, these actions required direct authorization from the university president. The school says it will also appoint a senior vice provost to review the Middle Eastern, South Asian and African Studies department. The provost will be responsible for reviewing curriculum, ensuring program offerings are comprehensive and balanced. Columbia officials not fully complying with all Trump administration demands the university is restructuring the university judicial board rather than fully abolishing it. Critics of the judicial board accuse it of taking insufficient disciplinary action against students accused of anti Semitic behavior. The New York Times, the daily podcast explaining even with the concessions, Columbia University is not totally in the clear that $400 million does not just automatically return. These concessions that Columbia made were essentially.
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Their effort to get the government to come to the negotiating table.
Megyn Kelly
It wasn't even like do all of this and you'll get your money back. It was do all of this and maybe we'll talk to you about getting your money. That's exactly right. The Department of Education reporting Columbia holds roughly 5 billion in federal grant commitments. The original 400 million cut just an initial warning to the university. The Trump administration is serious about ending on campus displays of anti Semitism as the law requires. The University of Maine system agreeing to comply with President Trump's executive order banning men from women's sports. Earlier this month, the Department of agriculture freezing nearly $30 million in research contracts across the system's eight campuses, part of a broader standoff between the Trump administration and tough talking Governor Janet Mills. On Wednesday, the USDA reinstating the funding saying the university system is now in full compliance with the executive order, but the issue is not yet fully resolved. Statewide, the Maine Principals association, which oversees public school sports, is under federal investigation for allowing a male athlete to compete in the high school girls pole vault championship. The MPA has not yet agreed to federal demands. The HHS Office of Civil Rights setting a Thursday deadline for the mpa, the Maine Department of Education and Greeley High School to come into compliance with Title 9. President Trump this weekend posting to Truth Social writing quote, we need a full throated apology from the governor herself and a statement that she will never make such an unlawful challenge to the federal government again before this case can be settled. I'm sure she will be able to do that quite easily. Governor Mills previously threatened to take the Trump administration to court in order to protect the rights of boys in her state to compete in girls leagues. Instead, she already surrendered at the university level. So we'll see. Paul Weiss, a powerful law firm with deep ties to Democrat politics, caving to the demands of the Trump administration and then some. On March 14, President Trump signing an executive order, reading in part quote, global law firms have for years played an outsized role in undermining the judicial process and in the destruction of bedrock American principles. The president identifying public Paul Weiss as one such firm with specific examples. The order suspended security clearances for Paul Weiss employees, restricted their access to federal buildings, and directed federal agencies to cancel contracts with the firm. On Friday, following a negotiated agreement, President Trump revoking the executive order and laying out a number of concessions, the law Firm will dedicate $40 million in pro bono legal services throughout the remainder of President Trump's term to support mutually agreed upon causes such as supporting veterans. Paul Weiss committing to adopting a policy of political neutrality and abandoning any diversity, equity and inclusion practices. The firm also acknowledging the wrongdoing of former partner mark Pomerantz. In 2021, Mr. Pomerantz took a leave of absence from Paul Weiss to join the Manhattan DA's office, where he helped lead the criminal investigation into the Trump Organization's alleged inflation of asset values. Upon taking office in 2022, DA Alvin Bragg paused the case, saying he was not prepared to move forward with that one. Mr. Pomerantz in turn very publicly resigning from the DA's office, publishing a scathing resignation letter in March 2022 and a book titled The People versus Donald Trump, using his platform to pressure Bragg and or others into resurrecting the probe. In April 2022, Mr. Pomerantz then returning to his position as of counsel at Paul Weiss. It's unclear when Mr. Pomeranz's association with Paul Weiss officially ended, but it apparently has. Ultimately, New York Attorney General Letitia James, a fellow elected Democrat, filed civil charges in a case accusing Trump of inflating asset values to secure favorable loans. In 2024, she secured a civil judgment imposing over $450 million in penalties against Trump, the Trump Organization and its top executives. Trump allies and legal experts blasted that case as politically driven, as a witch hunt with no clear victim. None of the banks who allegedly been defrauded complained at all. Despite Mr. Trump's 2024 election victory, AG James has refused to drop the case, which is now under appeal. Editor in chief of the Atlantic magazine, Jeffrey Goldberg shocking Washington Monday with a piece headlined the Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me it's war plans. Mr. Goldberg claiming he was added by national security adviser Mike Walls to a Signal Group chat with what appeared to be senior Trump administration officials. National Security Council spokesman Brian Hughes later confirming to Mr. Goldberg and to ABC News the authenticity of the group message chain. On March 15, the Trump administration began bombing the Houthi rebel group in Yemen. Mr. Goldberg writing quote, I however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44am Mr. Goldberg outlining days of communications on the encrypted messaging app message chain, which also included Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Vice President J.D. vance and other high ranking officials. The officials engaging in a nuanced policy discussion weighing the pros and cons of launching the attack on the Houthis. The user identified as JD Vance pointing out the Europeans had the most to lose with the shipping disruptions being caused by the Houthis questioning why America should take on this risk, writing quote, I am not sure the President is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. Mr. Goldberg then claiming. Days later the group chat receiving a follow up message from Defense Secretary Hegseth. Mr. Goldberg writing, quote, I will not quote from this update or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel. This report quickly picked up and circulated by the media, including MSNBC and cnn.
Tom Homan
What we're seeing here is just pure carelessness.
Megyn Kelly
It is recklessness. It is laziness.
Jeffrey Goldberg
It's really a disgraceful situation. If you think signal is equivalent to.
Megyn Kelly
US government secure telecommunications, think again. Democrats quickly leaping to comment. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer struggling to shore up his own support with progressives slamming the administration from the Senate floor. It's bad enough that a private citizen was added to this chain, but it's far worse that sensitive military information was exchanged on an unauthorized application. Especially when that sensitive military information was so, so important. Secretary Hegseth Denying Mr. Goldberg's description of his communications.
Tom Homan
You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again to include the, I don't know, the hoaxes of Russia, Russia, Russia or the fine people on both sides hoax, or suckers and losers hoax. So this is the guy that pedals in garbage. This is what he does. I've heard I was characterized. Nobody was texting war plans. And that's all I have to say about that.
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Thank you.
Megyn Kelly
President Trump learning about the story in a press conference with the governor of Louisiana. From a reporter who brought it up.
Jeffrey Goldberg
I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic. It's to me it's a magazine that's going out of business. I mean the attack on the hood. Yes, well, it couldn't have been very effective because the attack was very effective. I can tell you that. I don't know anything about it.
Megyn Kelly
The breach raising questions about the handling of sensitive information. The AP reporting under the Biden administration, some officials were authorized to download signal on their White House phones but were directed to use it sparingly. The National Security Council is investigating how a journalist was added to the group message and no one seemed to notice. Coming up, border czar Tom Homan announcing hundreds of arrests of criminal illegal aliens in Boston as sanctuary cities fight against ICE officials. And President Trump has a bone to pick with Colorado's governor over something you probably did not see coming. All that and more in just a moment.
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Today orders are Tom Homan announcing the arrest of 370 illegal aliens in and around the Boston area. Boston A sanctuary city a prime target of Mr. Homan from the start of the second Trump administration. In February, Mr. Homan calling out Boston officials for their refusal to cooperate with federal officials tasked with rounding up the worst of the worst illegal alien offenders.
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I read a story last night, the police commissioner of Boston, you said you doubled down on not helping the law enforcement office of ice. I looked at the numbers this morning. Nine child rapists that were in jail in Massachusetts, but rather than honoring an ICE detainer, release them back into the street.
Megyn Kelly
The Trump administration and Republicans in Congress battling sanctuary cities they say violate the law by not coordinating with ICE officials to remove illegal aliens. Boston Mayor Michelle Wu, along with several other sanctuary city mayors called in March to testify in front of the oversight Committee.
Jeffrey Goldberg
Last year in a Boston suburb, an illegal alien raped and impregnated his 14 year old daughter while living in a shelter for illegal aliens. Mayor Wu, under Boston law, would you turn this criminal over to ICE on a detainer?
Megyn Kelly
Whenever there's a criminal warrant, Boston police enforce that and hold people accountable. If ICE deems that they are dangerous enough to hold, obtain a criminal warrant and the Boston police will enforce it. Mayor Wu clearly intentionally using very precise language there to describe her city's legal process for releasing illegal immigrants from city custody back onto the streets. In Boston, when local police arrest someone they know is a criminal illegal alien, that person is typically processed and released from custody without notifying ice. In non sanctuary jurisdictions, local law enforcement works with ICE by notifying them of the arrest and handing over the individual from within the jail, a process ICE says is safer for both officers and the detainee. In Boston, ICE is often notified only at the last minute, if at all, of the release, forcing federal agents to locate and arrest individuals in public places like parking lots where safety risks are higher. ICE officials argued this approach makes communities less safe and undermines immigration enforcement efforts. Mr. Homan describing the recent effort in Boston on X as a multi agency five day operation resulting in arrests of six foreign fugitives, including four who were wanted for murder or to serve a criminal sentence for murder along with drug traffickers, child sexual predators and numerous other violent public safety threats. The immigration situation not much better in neighboring New York. Democrat Governor Kathy Hochul telling the David Pakman show new York State Police will not cooperate with mass deportations. We're not going to allow this mass deportation. If you have a warrant or you know someone's on a terrorism watch list or committing crimes in their home country or committing crimes here. That's a different category. What I control is the state police and they will not cooperate in that. Tom Homan warning the governor in recent weeks if state officials do not cooperate with federal officials, he will take aggressive action.
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We'll double the man force here if we have to because rather than one officer resting a bad guy in the jail, one officer wrestling one bad guy, now I got to send the whole team New York State, you got to change the sanctuary status if you don't get out of the way because we're going to do our job.
Megyn Kelly
Since the spring of 2022, more than 200,000 illegal aliens shipped to New York from the Texas border. Many of the new arrivals making headlines for crimes like vandalism and public drunkenness to far more horrific acts. Jose Ibera was arrested and released in New York just months before he was put on a taxpayer funded flight to Georgia where He savagely killed 22 year old Lake and Riley. President Trump calling on Democrat governor from Colorado Jared Polis to remove his presidential portrait hanging in the state Capitol building in a Sunday night Truth Social Post. President Trump writing, quote, nobody likes a bad picture or painting of themselves, but the one in Colorado in the state capitol put up by the governor along with all other presidents was purposefully distorted to a level that even I perhaps have never seen before. A spokesperson for Governor Polis saying the governor was, quote, surprised to learn the president of the United States is an aficionado of our Colorado state Capitol and its artwork. President Trump also calling out the governor as, quote, extremely weak on crime, in particular with respect to trend, a US Designated foreign terrorist organization. President Trump saying the artist Sarah Boardman painted a much more flattering portrait of President Obama. It's almost an exact likeness, truth be told. President Trump writing that the White House received many calls and complaints from the people of Colorado regarding The portrait of Mr. Trump, which was unveiled in 2019. Ms. Boardman telling the Denver Post at the time of the unveiling her aim was to craft a neutral portrait, quote, in today's environment, it's all very upfront, but in another 5, 10, 15 years, he will be another president on the wall. The portrait commissioned for $11,000 donations raised by a state Republican lawmaker in 2018. New York magazine describes the work as jowly. That's putting it nicely. He looks 50 pounds heavier than he actually is. A picture of the portrait is posted on MeganKelly.com where you can judge for yourself. And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for the Megyn Kelly show live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east on YouTube.com megankelley and on all podcast platforms. KPMG makes the difference by creating value.
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The Megyn Kelly Show: Detailed Summary of "Academia Caving to Trump, Bombshell Group Chat Atlantic Report, Massive ICE Roundup: AM Update 3/25"
Introduction
In the March 25, 2025 episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, host Megyn Kelly delivers a comprehensive AM Update covering a series of high-stakes developments in the political, legal, and cultural arenas. The episode delves into the Trump administration’s strategic victories against prestigious institutions like Columbia University and the influential law firm Paul Weiss, exposes a leaked group chat involving top Trump officials discussing war plans, and reports on a massive Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) roundup in Boston. Additionally, President Trump voices his discontent with Colorado Governor Jared Polis over a controversial state capitol portrait. This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn during the episode.
1. Trump Administration's Influence on Columbia University
Megyn Kelly opens the episode by highlighting significant victories secured by the Trump administration against Columbia University, Maine’s university system, and the law firm Paul Weiss.
Federal Funding Pressures: Columbia University faces the potential loss of $400 million in federal funding due to its handling of anti-Semitism on campus. The administration's demands include implementing a mask ban to prevent protesters from hiding identities and ensuring student accountability.
Megyn Kelly [01:56]: "Columbia University facing the loss of 400 million in federal funding giving in to the Trump administration's demands aimed at curbing on campus anti Semitism."
Campus Policy Changes: The university agrees to appoint a senior vice provost to oversee Middle Eastern, South Asian, and African Studies departments, ensuring balanced curricula. Additionally, 36 campus police officers gain the authority to arrest or remove students without direct presidential authorization.
Megyn Kelly [02:14]: "The university rocked by violent anti Israel protests since the start of Israel's war against the Hamas terrorist organization..."
Judicial Restructuring: Despite concessions, Columbia opts to restructure its judicial board rather than abolish it, facing criticism for inadequate disciplinary actions against anti-Semitic behavior.
Megyn Kelly [03:41]: "Their effort to get the government to come to the negotiating table."
Financial Implications: The Department of Education notes Columbia holds approximately $5 billion in federal grants, with the initial $400 million cut serving as a warning rather than a definitive loss.
Megyn Kelly [03:45]: "It wasn't even like do all of this and you'll get your money back. It was do all of this and maybe we'll talk to you about getting your money back."
2. Paul Weiss Law Firm Under Trump's Executive Order
The episode transitions to the intense scrutiny faced by Paul Weiss, a prominent law firm with deep Democratic connections, following President Trump’s executive order targeting the firm.
Executive Order Details: On March 14, President Trump issued an order accusing Paul Weiss of undermining the judicial process and American principles. The order suspended security clearances for its employees, restricted federal building access, and mandated the cancellation of federal contracts with the firm.
Megyn Kelly [06:00]: "President Trump signing an executive order, reading in part quote, global law firms have for years played an outsized role in undermining the judicial process..."
Negotiated Settlement: By early March, Trump revoked the executive order after Paul Weiss agreed to several concessions, including dedicating $40 million to pro bono services, committing to political neutrality, and ceasing diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.
Megyn Kelly [07:30]: "On Friday, following a negotiated agreement, President Trump revoking the executive order and laying out a number of concessions..."
Controversial Associations: The episode touches on former partner Mark Pomerantz’s involvement in investigations against the Trump Organization and his subsequent resignation, raising questions about the firm’s affiliations and the timing of settlement terms.
Megyn Kelly [09:10]: "Paul Weiss committing to adopting a policy of political neutrality and abandoning any diversity, equity and inclusion practices..."
Ongoing Legal Battles: Despite Trump’s 2024 election victory, New York Attorney General Letitia James continues her civil case against Trump for asset inflation, portraying it as a politically motivated witch hunt.
Megyn Kelly [10:00]: "Despite Mr. Trump's 2024 election victory, AG James has refused to drop the case, which is now under appeal."
3. Bombshell Group Chat Revelation by Jeffrey Goldberg
A major scoop is presented by Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, who reveals unauthorized access to a high-level group chat among Trump administration security officials.
Unauthorized Access: Goldberg recounts being inadvertently added to a Signal group chat containing national security officials discussing imminent war plans, specifically regarding the Houthi rebel group in Yemen.
Jeffrey Goldberg [00:25]: "I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic..."
Sensitive Information Leak: The chat included detailed policy discussions with figures like Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Vice President J.D. Vance debating the implications of an attack on the Houthis, including potential European shipping disruptions and oil price spikes.
Megyn Kelly [09:50]: "Jamie Goldberg outlining days of communications on the encrypted messaging app message chain..."
Administration’s Response: Secretary Hegseth denies the accidental sharing of war plans, labeling Goldberg a "deceitful and highly discredited" journalist, while Democrats criticize the administration’s handling of sensitive information.
Tom Homan [10:31]: "What we're seeing here is just pure carelessness."
Megyn Kelly [10:42]: "US government secure telecommunications, think again."
Broader Implications: The leak prompts investigations into the National Security Council’s protocols and raises concerns about the security of government communications platforms.
Megyn Kelly [12:14]: "The breach raising questions about the handling of sensitive information..."
4. Massive ICE Roundup in Boston
Border czar Tom Homan announces a significant crackdown on illegal aliens in Boston, a designated sanctuary city, highlighting the ongoing federal versus local jurisdictional battles.
Operation Details: Homan reveals the arrest of 370 illegal aliens, including individuals with serious criminal backgrounds such as murderers and child sexual predators, in a coordinated multi-agency effort.
Megyn Kelly [14:34]: "Today orders are Tom Homan announcing the arrest of 370 illegal aliens in and around the Boston area."
Sanctuary City Policies: Boston’s Mayor Michelle Wu and other sanctuary city officials face intense pressure, with criticisms centered on their refusal to consistently share ICE detainers, leading to public safety concerns.
Megyn Kelly [15:29]: "In Boston, when local police arrest someone they know is a criminal illegal alien, that person is typically processed and released from custody without notifying ice."
Federal vs. State Standoff: Comparing with New York, where Governor Kathy Hochul refuses to cooperate with mass deportations unless individuals are on terrorism watch lists or involved in severe crimes, illustrating the broader resistance against federal immigration enforcement.
Megyn Kelly [16:40]: "Democrat Governor Kathy Hochul telling the David Pakman show New York State Police will not cooperate with mass deportations."
Implications for Public Safety: ICE officials argue that sanctuary policies undermine immigration enforcement and compromise community safety, while local governments assert their right to manage immigration matters without federal intervention.
Megyn Kelly [17:34]: "We'll double the manpower here if we have to because rather than one officer resting a bad guy in the jail, one officer wrestling one bad guy..."
5. President Trump’s Dispute with Colorado Governor Polis
The episode concludes with President Trump’s public dissatisfaction with Colorado Governor Jared Polis over a state capitol portrait depiction.
Portrait Controversy: Trump demands the removal of his caricatured portrait from the Colorado state capitol, criticizing its unflattering portrayal and comparing it unfavorably to a more flattering likeness of President Obama.
Megyn Kelly [17:49]: "President Trump writing, quote, nobody likes a bad picture or painting of themselves..."
Governor’s Stance: Governor Polis expresses surprise at Trump’s displeasure, asserting the portrait was intended to be neutral and hinting at future similar depictions of subsequent presidents.
Megyn Kelly [18:20]: "Ms. Boardman telling the Denver Post at the time of the unveiling her aim was to craft a neutral portrait..."
Public and Political Reactions: The episode touches on the fundraising and political maneuvering behind the portrait’s commissioning, with critics labeling the artwork as disproportionately exaggerated.
Megyn Kelly [19:00]: "New York magazine describes the work as jowly. That's putting it nicely. He looks 50 pounds heavier than he actually is."
Conclusion
Megyn Kelly's AM Update provides a thorough examination of the Trump administration's strategic moves against educational institutions and influential law firms, exposes critical security breaches within the administration, reports on significant immigration enforcement actions in sanctuary cities, and highlights the ongoing political skirmish between President Trump and Colorado Governor Polis. Through detailed reporting and inclusion of notable quotes, the episode offers listeners an in-depth understanding of the current political landscape and the contentious issues shaping it.
Notable Quotes
Megyn Kelly:
"It wasn't even like do all of this and you'll get your money back. It was do all of this and maybe we'll talk to you about getting your money back." [00:03]
Tom Homan:
"What we're seeing here is just pure carelessness." [10:31]
"We'll double the manpower here if we have to because..." [17:34]
Jeffrey Goldberg:
"I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of the Atlantic..." [00:25]
"It's really a disgraceful situation..." [10:37]
Governor Polis’ Spokesperson:
"Ms. Boardman telling the Denver Post at the time of the unveiling her aim was to craft a neutral portrait..." [19:30]
Disclaimer: This summary is intended to provide an overview of the episode's content and does not substitute the detailed discussions and nuances presented in the original podcast.