Andrew Schulz and Bill Maher - Megyn Kelly's "Double Feature" of Fascinating Interviews

Summary

The Megyn Kelly Show – “Double Feature” with Andrew Schulz and Bill Maher

Date: June 14, 2026
Host: Megyn Kelly
Guests: Andrew Schulz, Bill Maher
Themes: Comedic takes on parenthood, masculinity, American politics, wokeness, and social controversy.

---

Episode Overview

Today’s “Double Feature Mega Episode” offers back-to-back, in-depth interviews with comedians Andrew Schulz and Bill Maher. Schulz, known for his sharp, taboo-busting humor, opens up about fatherhood, IVF, modern relationships, and navigating political correctness, offering vulnerability and biting insight. Bill Maher joins next for a candid, sometimes combative discussion on democracy, Trump, woke culture, higher education, race, and Biden’s presidency. Both segments blend laughs with serious cultural critique, illustrating how comedy and intellect can dissect contemporary American life.

---

Andrew Schulz Interview

[Start: 01:01]

1. Personal Life, Fatherhood, and IVF

• Schulz promotes his new Netflix special, "Life", describing it as both hilarious and unexpectedly emotional, focused on his journey with IVF and becoming a father ([01:01], [54:16]).
  • “It’s only an hour. You will laugh and, believe it or not, you will cry, too. It’s actually very touching at times.” – Megyn Kelly ([01:01])
• Humorous take on sperm count and IVF struggles:
  • “We are celebrating my new special is coming out… It’s about my wife and I trying to make a baby…” – Andrew Schulz ([03:11])
  • “It was so little sperm in this cup I could have counted them individually… what zoo animal, hippopotamus cups are you giving out to people?” – Andrew Schulz ([52:45])
• Discussion of infertility taboo:
  • “I literally thought this was like a one in 10 million thing… The second I started talking about it, all my friends started telling me they’re doing IVF.” – Andrew Schulz ([55:51])

Memorable Moments

• Schulz and Megyn bond over IVF awkwardness:
  • “After he had to donate the sample, [my husband] was going to wear a red crushed velvet smoking jacket on his way out, like, ‘That was fantastic. I was amazing.’” – Megyn Kelly ([56:34])
  • “It's so humbling. You’re sitting in this room, like, all of you are in there...” – Andrew Schulz ([57:18])

2. Modern Relationships, Gender, and Wokeness

• Debate on “ick culture” and the pressures of relationships:
  • Schulz posits that societal pressure leads women to overanalyze red flags ([08:15]).
  • Kelly: “But if you really love someone… nothing bothers you. It’s all really cute.” ([09:04])
• Cheating, double standards, and forgiveness:
  • “When a woman cheats… this is twisted shit… we need to lock him up, why would you promote this?” – Andrew Schulz ([06:25])
  • “Most of the women I know… would not leave [over an affair].” – Megyn Kelly ([07:25])
• Parenthood as empathy training and source of fear:
  • Schulz discusses the paralyzing responsibility: “If you don’t have children, you really don’t even need to be part of the [vaccination] conversation because you don’t understand…” ([20:25])

3. American Institutions, Trust, and Covid Skepticism

• Loss of institutional trust post-Covid:
  • “Every institution, I feel like we have super low confidence in.” – Andrew Schulz ([21:15])
  • “Every pediatrician… recommended the COVID vaccine, which we didn’t.” – Megyn Kelly ([21:17])
• Confessions about dodging requirements:
  • “I got a fake booster so I could do a movie… Some Jewish guy in Brooklyn…” – Andrew Schulz ([21:31])

4. Social Satire: Wealth, Hypocrisy, and America’s Unwritten Codes

• Billionaires, scandals, and class resentment:
  • Schulz and Kelly riff on Epstein, Gates, and “the beautiful lie” of buttoned-up billionaires ([25:05]-[28:25]).
  • “In order to actually make like, proper billion dollars, like, you gotta kill, like, a few people, right?” – Andrew Schulz ([27:53])
• Tipping culture and social signaling:
  • “I always want to be overly generous to the way— I always leave 50…” – Megyn Kelly ([13:49])
  • “No, no, that’s guilty. Something’s going on.” – Andrew Schulz about Hannity tipping 100% ([14:39])

5. Social Commentary and Masculinity

• The “masculinity problem” among Democrats:
  • "They have this deep insecurity that they're not seen as masculine." ([44:52])
  • “You can be masculine and care for people… being involved in your kid’s life is masculine.” – Andrew Schulz ([72:51])
  • “One of the most beautiful things… is seeing how much people love their children, dads doing daddy-daughter dates.” ([73:23])

Notable Quote

• On Authenticity in Media:
  “I try very hard to not let the algorithm dictate what we talk about… authenticity is the most important thing to me.” ([97:41])
• On Americans’ preference for risk and brashness:
  “We like people to take risks… part of the reason why Bernie was so successful... Americans love abundance.” ([40:32], [47:19])

6. Social Media, Fame & the Trap of Virality

• “You just become this slave to the algorithm… but if you just work on doing good programming every day, the relationship is real.” – Megyn Kelly ([98:00])

7. Closing

• Promoting Schulz’s special, "Life":
  • “We want to support him. You will laugh your ass off… and we cannot let Meghan Markle be number one.” – Megyn Kelly ([101:16])
• Fun riff on socio-cultural fashion, veneers, and “naturalness”:
  • “Now it’s [veneers] become so popular, it’s going to have the reverse effect. Like, it’s going to be like the Kim Kardashian butt where people start rebelling.” – Andrew Schulz ([92:55])

---

[Schulz Segment ends ~101:43]

---

Bill Maher Interview

[Start: 103:14]

1. Maher’s Book and Brand of Satire

• Maher introduces his new book, with a title mocking clickbait (“What this comedian said will shock you”):
  • “It’s supposed to mock clickbait…” – Bill Maher ([104:50])
• Difference between "old school" liberalism and “wokeness”:
  • “Wokeness seems a lot about canceling people, catching people at something, renaming something… Liberalism was at least about trying to fix things... to lift people up.” ([147:04])

2. Democracy, Trump, and Existential Stakes

• Maher’s core worry: Trump as a threat to democracy due to election denialism and authoritarian impulses:
  • “He still hasn’t conceded the last election… Now he has all his sycophants… parroting… ‘if it’s a free and fair election,’ which is another way of saying ‘if we win.’” ([108:18])
• Stark disagreement:
  • Kelly lists other concerns: due process for male college students, trans issues, border security ([109:12]).
  • Maher: “Those things are important but you can handle them through the normal due process of our system. But if we lose the system itself—come on.” ([109:25])
  • Maher: “You’re obviously someone who looks at an elephant and a mouse and cannot tell which one is bigger.” ([112:25])
  • Kelly: “I disagree. I think that’s projection by you…” ([112:35])

3. Trump vs. Biden, the 2024 Choice

• Both critique both sides—but Maher insists “Biden believes in our way of life,” while Trump threatens political norms ([107:34], [108:18]).
  • “In this country, maybe gender is non-binary, but politics is… You only get two choices.” – Bill Maher ([117:41])
  • “If Biden wins again… his rabble won’t accept it, and he won’t accept it.” ([169:17])
• False equivalence debate:
  • Kelly presses on Democratic election denialism (Hillary, Raskin, etc) ([114:12]).
  • Maher insists, “She came out before the sun had risen to concede the election… it’s a tremendous false equivalency…” ([114:31])

4. Wokeness, Race, Anti-White Sentiment, and Social Progress

• Elite colleges and support for terrorism:
  • “If I ever needed a rationale for making the case that the left has changed, it would be this… the fact that they're now marching for the terrorists, really.” – Bill Maher ([140:30])
• Double standards with race:
  • Maher and Kelly riff on how only white colonialism/crimes are condemned in mainstream “woke” analysis, but other ethnicities’ atrocities escape scrutiny ([145:42]).
  • “Genghis Khan was pretty rough. Talk about colonizers … it was a different era…” – Bill Maher ([146:07])

5. Law Enforcement, Black America, and Political Pandering

• Biden’s Morehouse College speech and reality for Black Americans:
  • “That's his vision of life as a black man in America.” – Megyn Kelly ([152:24])
  • “That's anachronistic. That's not the case... There are places in this country where it's an advantage to be a person of color at this point, this time...” – Bill Maher ([153:13])
  • “To be telling black students that you have to be 10 times better to get ahead… That’s not the case…” ([153:35])

6. On the Trump Trials (Stormy Daniels, Cohen, the Impact)

• Cynicism and skepticism about the New York trial:
  • “I didn’t think they should have gone ahead with this trial… all these trials probably not going to come to anything.” ([161:44])
  • On Stormy Daniels’ changing story: “So the idea that she would black out because this was such a traumatic experience was to me straining credulity…” ([161:44])
  • On Michael Cohen: “There's no good people in this trial… and he fucked her at that golf tournament. That’s just who he was.” ([166:29])

7. Can America Reconcile?

• Mutual “man without a party” theme: Both Kelly and Maher express frustration with extreme wings of their ostensible sides ([107:04]).
  • “I feel like more people than ever are on Team Me… They just want the extremists who seem to have the megaphone on either side to go away…” – Bill Maher ([123:35])
• Closing challenge:
  • Maher: “When Trump doesn’t relinquish power… I would hope you would be able to acknowledge that. And if he does relinquish power… I’ll absolutely… say I was wrong.” ([170:41])

---

Notable Quotes & Moments

On Masculinity and Fathers

• “Being involved in your kid’s life is masculine. …When I see involved parents, that's the most beautiful thing…” – Andrew Schulz ([73:58])

On Working Class and Political Bravado

• "We like people to take risks, and we like bravery... You need eggs or a dollar." – Andrew Schulz ([41:39])

On American Institutions

• “…We need something to be proud of. We can be proud… We up, too. You can up and we will forgive you. Give us that opportunity.” – Andrew Schulz ([83:15])

On Cancel Culture and Wokeness

• "Nobody ever gets canceled for being too woke. That's how you wind up with men can get pregnant, because you can say the most ridiculous thing and nobody wants to be the one who's called out..." – Bill Maher ([123:36])

---

Key Timestamps

• 01:01 — Double feature intro; Schulz segment begins
• 03:07 — Clip of Schulz with Matt Damon
• 54:16 — IVF journey and the Netflix special
• 72:51 — Commentary on masculinity & fatherhood
• 97:41 — Social media, algorithms, & authenticity
• 101:43 — Schulz interview closes
• 103:14 — Bill Maher segment begins
• 108:18 — Maher on Trump and democracy
• 123:35 — Maher on moderate America
• 140:30 — University protests & Hamas
• 161:15 — Stormy Daniels and the Trump trial
• 169:17 — Maher: the consequences of the 2024 election
• 170:41 — Maher and Kelly agree to a future victory lap, regardless of outcome

---

Final Thoughts

Megyn Kelly’s “double feature” episode is a showcase of two of America’s sharpest, most unfiltered comedic commentators. Andrew Schulz’s segment is deeply personal yet scathingly observational about relationships, culture, and American life. Bill Maher’s interview moves from witty banter through intense political debate, highlighting how civility must survive political and cultural divides. Both guests, in their own caustic, humorous ways, reveal just how divided – and how oddly hopeful – American discourse remains.

---

For full belly laughs and pointed social critique, don’t miss Andrew Schulz’s “Life” on Netflix, and check out Bill Maher’s new book “What This Comedian Said Will Shock You”.

Transcript

[Andrew Schulz]

What if your drive was fueled with more like more protection for more time on the road?

[Megyn Kelly]

Shell V Power Nitro plus provides more

[Andrew Schulz]

protection for longer lasting engines, so it helps keep your engine running like new for whatever drive is ahead. Shelby Power Nitro plus engine performance that lasts compared to minimum detergent gasoline with

[Megyn Kelly]

continuous use of Shelby Power Nitro plus

[Andrew Schulz]

and gasoline direct injection engines, actual effects and benefits may vary. See Shell Us More Dash Protection for more information.

[Advertisement Voice]

Introducing Taco Bell's new sweet and spicy Jalapeno Citrus Salsa made with bright citrus and real red jalapenos.

[Megyn Kelly]

You can get it with anything on the Cantina Chicken menu for a delicious

[Advertisement Voice]

tangy twist to make all your faves instantly better.

[Megyn Kelly]

And while Jalapeno Citrus Salsa is only available for a limited time, know this

[Advertisement Voice]

Jalapeno Citrus Salsa demands the spotlight. It's the sauce with main character energy. Get Jalapeno Citrus Salsa with anything on

[Megyn Kelly]

the Cantina Chicken menu for a limited time only at Taco Bell at participating

[Advertisement Voice]

locations while supplies last.

[Megyn Kelly]

Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly and welcome to our Sunday Double Feature Mega Episode Today. Two conversations with two comedians that brought the whole range of emotions. First up, I adore Andrew Schulz. He is so funny. Just thinking about our exchanges makes me laugh. He's brilliant. He came here to the Red Studio last year. He's been on many times since the beginning of our show, but this was a hilarious exchange where he really opened up about becoming a dad and wrestling with the challenges of ivf. It was so funny. You are going to adore this exchange. Bill Maher is our second up today. Bill and I have talked throughout the years on this show and on his, but in 2024 he came by for an interview at Sirius XM HQ in New York that was at times funny and at times feisty. Let's just say he was totally unprepared and well, you be the judge of how it went. Enjoy today's double feature and see you tomorrow. Oh, do we have a treat for you today. Buckle up. One of the funniest people in America is with me for the full show right here in studio. Comedian Andrew Schultz has a new Netflix special out week called Life. If you go on Netflix, it's one of the top shows right now. You can't miss it and you shouldn't miss it. It's only an hour. You will laugh and believe it or not, you will Cry, too. It's actually very touching at. At times. I did not expect that. And he. I was just saying to him before we got started, I watched it the same way I watch all Andrew Schultz content like this. Oh, I'm afraid. And I love it. I hate myself for loving it so much. The whole thing is actually de personal. And his pal Matt Damon helped him announce it. Watch this.

[Bill Maher]

Schultze, Schultze, Schultze.

[Andrew Schulz]

Matthew.

[Bill Maher]

Hey, cute baby. I didn't get the Amber alert.

[Andrew Schulz]

We are celebrating my new specials coming out. Oh, nice. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

What do you stand up there and grow a mustache?

[Andrew Schulz]

Actually, if you want to know, it's about my wife and I trying to make a baby.

[Bill Maher]

Hey, everybody, this dumbass right here has a special about his low sperm count. And it's on Netflix.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a legend, dude.

[Megyn Kelly]

Welcome back.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Great to have you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Great to see you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, God, likewise. I mean, you were actually one of my first guests. You know, we just celebrated episode 500 or 1000. I don't know, 1000. And you were 78. Number 78. You were like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, I remember. I was in California for that. But then I saw you. This is like right after I saw you at the Borgo. Yes, that's right. But I didn't come up and bother, you know?

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right. I forgot that. And now look at you. I mean, now you're. You're taken off.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, things have been cool things.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, really cool. And personally, I mean, the funniest bit you ever did, and it's still one of my favorites. This is from a special, not like on this show, but you were talking about your then girlfriend and how obsessed she was with crime shows. Oh, yeah, I could totally relate to this. And how. I remember you did this bit on how, you know, you'd watch NFL football with her and she'd be like. And some guy would have a compound fracture with a bleed, blood everywhere in the bone, and every guy, you know be like, oh, my God. And she'd be like, when is someone coming to murder him?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. It's like, not savage enough. Yeah. Why do you guys like the. The serial killer stuff?

[Megyn Kelly]

I. I have my own theories. I think it's because, like, when you grow up, you know, who gets murdered, who gets attacked, who gets stolen? Young women. Yeah, we're the victims. And so, like, it's instilled in you from an early age by your parents, by your friends, by your teachers, by tv, the news. Like, you're the victim. Like, and so you know, you walk around everywhere like, oh my God. And there's a morbid fascination with what happens to others. Like how do I prevent that from happening to me? Yeah, I think that's why.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, yeah, it's fear based. So this is like this. Yeah. Gigantic fear you have.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, we're working something out.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

You know, it's like the same way my 11 year old likes to watch shark videos all the time because he

[Andrew Schulz]

thinks he's going to get eaten by a shark.

[Megyn Kelly]

Totally. And meanwhile.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what is our fear? What is our

[Megyn Kelly]

what? You know what? I.

[Andrew Schulz]

Her men just not afraid of anything.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm embarrassed to tell you that I've been dreaming lately about the AM update that we've been doing as a new pod that we've launched in our feed. Very embarrassing. My dreams are about news now. Okay. Because I do it either really late or early morning and it's just on my mind. And you shouldn't dream about news. That's just sad. Yeah, right, that's.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, this is your passion. This is what you dedicate your life to.

[Megyn Kelly]

You see, but I could relate to. Didn't you say. Did I hear this in the special that you were saying your girlfriend always dreams about you cheating on her?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah, my wife. Yeah. She dreams about me cheating on her. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

So I've had that dream with Doug too. And if I have that dream the next day I am such a to him. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is. It is funny that you punish us for it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

But yeah, yeah, that was what I was saying. I think in the special it's like, why can't I have those dreams?

[Megyn Kelly]

It's almost like you're like, go, go through it. Walk me through it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I was like, I'd like to know exactly. But yeah, it was, it's almost as like, you know, God shot like the dream arrow and like it was just like a degree off, you know, he was putting that in my brain. Yeah, exactly. It was weird. I don't really have dreams where, where

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm cheating on her or where she's cheating on you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think I might have had something and I woke up upset. I think it's like, this is my sexism coming out. But like when a, when a woman cheats, like even in like a movie, like my, my thought is like, who wrote this? Yeah, this is twisted shit. Like, like if I watch a serial thing, I'm like, okay, this is what it is. But if I see like a woman being unfaithful in something, I'm like, there is a Diabolical madman out there writing this. Like, we need to like, lock him up. Like, why would you promote this?

[Megyn Kelly]

We're lost as a society.

[Andrew Schulz]

I become this like, really conservative Christian. Like, I'm just like, what, the American foundation and nuclear families being destroyed. Oh, God, look at me getting all.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're getting really excited, worked up about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I know.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, I. My girlfriends and I have had this talks, this talk many times. Like, would you leave. Would you definitely leave your husband or your boyfriend if you found out he was cheating?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And then of course you get into, well, is it a one off or is it like a full blown blown affair with somebody else?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And honestly, most of the women I know have the same answer to both, which is, no, I would not leave.

[Andrew Schulz]

Isn't that. But also, they have children. Right?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That changes the entire game.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's also like. But yeah, this is good. Wait a minute. So we can cheat?

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, literally every friend of Doug's right now is texting him,

[Andrew Schulz]

no, we're going to Columbia.

[Megyn Kelly]

Doug, not, not saying that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, whoopsie.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's just, you know, like that's, that's a. Oh, you know.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, I'm curious your take on this. Like, I was talking to some, some of the, the women that work with me and you know, there's this like this prominence in when talking about relationships now. Like talking about like red flags and ick culture. Have you heard about this?

[Megyn Kelly]

No, I found. Must be too old.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. So, like, a lot of women talk about like, red flags and icks they have with men, like little things that they do that annoy them.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it could be something like small, like if it's raining and a guy lifts his shoulders. I don't like that. It like really turns me off to him.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's like tough.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. So. And like they're really like nuanced and specific. And I was like, what do you. I was asking, like, what do you think that's about? And this is my suspicion. I think that, like, there's so much pressure for women to be with somebody that they maybe would rather be with somebody they don't really like than be alone. Like, their moms are constantly going, hey, you gotta get married, you gotta have someone. And then you're with someone you don't like.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, God.

[Andrew Schulz]

And when you're around someone you don't like, everything about them annoys you.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, you can't have that. No. And then you're going to let him get on top of you?

[Andrew Schulz]

Never no, never.

[Megyn Kelly]

How could you?

[Andrew Schulz]

But if you really love someone, like you said, they can go to Colombia with the boys.

[Megyn Kelly]

It has an. The opposite effect. It's like nothing bothers.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nothing at all.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's all really cute.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's funny because I can't think of a thing about Doug that bothers me like that. And even after we just celebrate our.

[Andrew Schulz]

Doug's the man.

[Megyn Kelly]

He is the man. We just celebrated our 17th wedding anniversary on Saturday. Yeah. And honestly, like, even after 17 years of marriage, he doesn't do anything that, like, grosses me out. He's like. I don't know. I just find him very.

[Andrew Schulz]

Me neither. He's such a dream boat.

[Megyn Kelly]

But he is very funny about. Not about me, but. But other people. But, like, his number one thing that drives him nuts, and his brother has it, too, and I think it's called mesothelioma. Not like the lung days. You get disease, you get. But it's. I may be saying it wrong.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's like having sex with dead people.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, it's where you can't stand the sound of somebody chewing. It drives me.

[Andrew Schulz]

I was way off.

[Megyn Kelly]

Insane. Yeah. Mesothelioma is like the lung disease, and this is mesothelioma. I gotta look it up.

[Andrew Schulz]

But he doesn't like hearing people.

[Megyn Kelly]

Mesophonia. Thank you, Steve Krakauer.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Mesophonia. Right where you. It drives you nuts if you can really hear somebody chewing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Chew.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Okay. And there's somebody in the extended family who's like. Every time you sit down with this person, they get a big bowl of raw carrots and start, like, doubting it. And both. Yeah. Brothers are like, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. We can't deal with this. Yeah. Doug. Yeah. Doug's got his idiosyncrasies, which you got to put up with. So are you a quiet chewer, then?

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm actually pretty quiet, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Good.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. I'm really kind of proud of it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I have pretty good table manners. You'll see this with your new daughter. I mean, if that's something with your

[Andrew Schulz]

kids that I have to, like, bestow manners upon them, you.

[Megyn Kelly]

You can never let up. It's like they don't hear, they don't listen. You could tell them 10,000 times and they still don't listen. You don't go to the food. The food comes to you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

You know, like, all the little things and Small bites. Small bites. And still you see your kid with, like, a mountain of food. Shov it in there. You're like, I can't send you out into the world like this.

[Andrew Schulz]

My parents never taught me table manners.

[Megyn Kelly]

They didn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

Never told me. I learned table manners from the Titanic.

[Megyn Kelly]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know. You know, this team where, like, The. The Leonardo DiCaprio, she's like, the. The long. Go outside, in with the forks. Like, that's literally the moment I remember I had a girlfriend. I was, like, in Denmark with, like, her family, and I was, like, using my thumb to shovel salad onto a fork. And the father, like, put his hand on my wrist and was like, please use the silverware.

[Megyn Kelly]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, the humiliation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some.

[Megyn Kelly]

Vik, I still have some questions. I have to say. I never took, you know, any sort of manners classes, though. I would love to get some for my kids. If somebody offered that, I would totally hire this.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is that called? Etiquette classes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Class.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah. Class. Yeah. Yeah. This is what they do down south. Right.

[Megyn Kelly]

We were raised like wolves. That's why we don't have a lot of it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm watching you. Whatever I see works. You know, we ate out every meal or, like, had delivery.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

So there wasn't exactly, like, this big display.

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't remember my parents ever correcting table manners. You. Just something I picked up on later in life when I got to be more of a professional person.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

But I still have questions. Like, here's one question for the audience. Maybe they know. Maybe you know this.

[Andrew Schulz]

When you're eating soup, do you go outside in. Or.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, that. I know you're supposed to go from the front to the back. I know you're supposed to.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't.

[Megyn Kelly]

Supposed to scoop from the front to the back. It is stupid, but extra emotion.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, why would you move the food further away from you? This is this, like, pretentious, like, British, where they're. It's like, really wealthy people have to find a way to make you feel insecure about you not having money. And then when everybody started wearing suits, it's like, all right, well, we got to belittle them somehow. Oh, if you see somebody moving the spoon out, then they really have money. I hate this shit. I. What I love about America is the lack of rules in that regard.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, we're not trying to keep up with the Joneses.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, here's my question on it, though. In addition to those, what do you do with the soup spoon when you are in the middle, you want to put it down and. Or when you're done, does it go right back in the soup, or does it go on the little.

[Andrew Schulz]

I accidentally move it off the table and it falls and I go, oh, God. And then somebody gets.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's not okay. No. It's either supposed to go right back in the soup, which is what I think you're supposed to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Or you supposed to put it on the plate, like the saucer underneath the soup. That plate that's holding the soup bowl.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, yes, yes. But one of them signifies to the waiter that you're finished, and one signifies

[Megyn Kelly]

you're still eating with the soup. That's true, too.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just made that up.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it seems like it makes sense.

[Megyn Kelly]

I do know what to do on the plate when you want to signify you're done.

[Andrew Schulz]

Knife in between the fork.

[Megyn Kelly]

Fork and knife at 5 o'?

[Bill Maher]

Clock.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like ones that. Well, I guess 10 of 5. At 10 of 5. So one's at the 10 and one's at the 5 on your plate. Yeah, that I got.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's my one thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Isn't it crazy that we have to, like, speak in code to the waiters at the restaurant?

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, yo, yeah, that works, right? Yeah, yeah. Nothing left on the plate.

[Megyn Kelly]

Are you a good tipper? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I work in the service industry, so that's the thing. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

If you've never done it. Same.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I have to say. So I have.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is a good tip for you?

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, I. I always leave 50. What, five?

[Andrew Schulz]

Zero?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, I. I always leave 50. But can I tell you something kind of surprising? You think, is it good or it's bad? It's good. Yeah. It's a lot, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, they're not the government.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, you know, I always want to be overly generous to the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, wow. That is.

[Megyn Kelly]

I gotta tell you something. It. I never. And I go.

[Andrew Schulz]

Women don't usually tip. I just want to point. Point that out. Oh, that's not a big thing.

[Megyn Kelly]

That one's important to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

You. That is.

[Megyn Kelly]

You will never read a report about me being a bad tipper.

[Andrew Schulz]

I. Wow. I'm not going 50.

[Megyn Kelly]

What are you, 50?

[Andrew Schulz]

I go like 25. That's something like that. You know, I keep it round.

[Megyn Kelly]

I got this from Sean Hannity, who tips 100.

[Andrew Schulz]

He does, yes. Oh, wow.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm like, that's too much.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, that's guilty. Something's going on. Something's going on.

[Megyn Kelly]

He's a really generous guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's harassing waitresses. Something's happening where he's paying them off. 100% is guilt. There's something wrong.

[Megyn Kelly]

But I got to be honest with

[Andrew Schulz]

you, this Is he's taking. No. I mean Sean is a great guy. You're not doing this. You're not at all. Where's my camera? You're not at all doing this. But I would say 100 too if I was taking my girlfriend to the fucking thing and I didn't want anybody to know about it. But Sean would never do that. And that's not the case.

[Megyn Kelly]

Not it. He does not. He does not need to stray. He's with Ainsley. He's good. Well, listen, I was gonna say I would have. I would kind of expect that when I go back to these same restaurants and have the same waiter, like maybe I'd get a little bit more white glove treatment. Yeah, I had noticed absolutely no white glove. I don't. I don't think it really counts. So I just have to feel good about it in my heart.

[Andrew Schulz]

Which I do not the reason why we do it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, I mean it would be nice if somebody was like thanks, thanks for.

[Andrew Schulz]

But the worst when you're like at the bar and you're like I'm gonna tip this bartender, they're big and you go to put the money down and they walk away. And now you gotta just stand there until they come back and notice that I need your recognition that I left that like this needs to be very clear.

[Megyn Kelly]

My 13 year old daughter just asked this question at the dinner table last night. This is where it's going for you. She said is any act of charity ever for the other person or is it purely altruistic? Or isn't it all selfish?

[Andrew Schulz]

I would like to believe that we are capable of. Of altruism but I think that there are like percentages of selfishness for sure. Like if you're doing it to get to heaven, that seems pretty selfish.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, that's. That's what she was saying. And she was saying even just to make yourself feel good, there's an element of selfishness in it. And then my brother in law said what if you threw yourself on a grenade? And she said no, still you're doing it like there's some piece of you that's doing it to feel good about saving somebody. Or you might be like a word of the medal of honor if you're, you know, like there's something in there. 13 Very cynical.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I curse on this? Is that cool? Ok. Wow.

[Megyn Kelly]

We couldn't have on Andrew Schultz if you could not.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a good point. That's a good point. Wow. That is. That is a sophisticated thought for a 13 year old. I know, has she watched everything everywhere all at once?

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, she. She watches some of the Dateline specials with me. That's probably part of it, though. Tonight she's got that side where she's deep and philosophical and cynical in some ways. But tonight she'll be starring as Ursula in the Little Mermaid at her school play.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did she pick Ursula?

[Megyn Kelly]

No, she tried out for it. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So she wanted Ursula.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

We gotta keep an eye on this girl right here. We gotta keep a very close watch on this girl. This is because it is. I think that what she's pro. What she's approaching is like, a very realistic way of looking at life, you know, which is. But sometimes having that view of humanity can be difficult to handle.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a really sophisticated view of.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's very hard with a. With a mother who's in news and a father who is as cynical and funny as Doug is.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's just there. Our kids have a very healthy sense of humor, which you would appreciate, but, like. Like, very realistic.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

You know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I'm trying to think, like, what is the. Like, the positive impact of that is you can have probably, like, really mature conversations with them.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. She's definitely ahead of her time.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is.

[Megyn Kelly]

Her school did it. It's a private school. It's all girls. I will say it's more woke than I would like, but not as woke as the one we pulled her from in New York City.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the. The conversation I have with parents, public and private is. Is the exact same one that we're having right now.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's just like. Yeah. They're all kind of, like, woke, to use that term. And it's kind of like a. We've beaten that term to the ground.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, they just had one of the. On. I know. It was Martin Luther King Day.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And they had an assembly, and they had the head of DEI go in there and talk to the girls and said, just. Just as a reminder, we believe in equity. Everyone has the right to wind up in the same space.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And of course, my daughter. My kids are primed on this. You know, we're inoculating them against this bullshit at home. She knew enough to come home and be like, mom, this is what they said. And I was like, no, she's absolutely right. On the next test, when you study hard and the girl next to you doesn't. She has a right to see your answers. You have to show them to her. She has the right to get the same grade as you, no matter how much work you did or didn't put into it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I mean that is funny to have a DEI program at an all girls school.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well that, it's like that's. You don't even. Exactly. But that's the. But those are.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're selecting out a group of people. You really can't continue that conversation.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, they can't have the oppressors and the patriarchy running the school.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is. Wait, are there, are there any like male leadership in this?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. Well, not leadership, but there are plenty of male teams, teachers.

[Andrew Schulz]

Just male teachers. Yeah, but no male leadership.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, there isn't. No. Well, wait, I'm wrong. When you get to the high school, there's a, there's a, there's a head of the high school. I mean she's only in middle school, but. So we're not there yet. Yeah, I don't, I don't think they're against men. But you know, we did a bunch of research when the kids were really young on single sex education and it seemed like a focus K through 8. It was a good idea. And the good thing about this high school is when she gets to high school, she'll mix now with boys. So that's good because you know at some point you have to learn how to be around the opposite sex.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, you do. I wonder. I'm surprised it's that way, not the opposite, opposite way.

[Megyn Kelly]

What do you mean? Like co ed K through 8?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Single sex?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think they're looking, I think for girls the philosophy is, you know, they'll, they won't be afraid to say how they feel because you know, in middle school it's awkward for everybody and maybe around the boys you're a little bit more buttoned up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

And then in the younger grades, boys tend to be more disruptive and kind of bigger pains in the ass and girls are like well behaved and so then they get demonized. So it can be better, better for them to be alone too. You know where that they're not being compared to the well behaved girls. Like at our boys school. The first thing they do for the K through fivers is they let them go to gym for like an hour.

[Andrew Schulz]

Get out the system, get it out. That's smart, right? That's really smart.

[Megyn Kelly]

But girls don't need that.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're just ready to pay attention and lock in.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, it's amazing.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Isn't this fun? You have all this to look forward to with your now one year baby.

[Andrew Schulz]

Excited. Yeah, it's great. It is like terrifying. Though all these things are scary.

[Megyn Kelly]

You don't know anything.

[Andrew Schulz]

You really don't know anything. And now I, like, I have this. I have this amazing empathy for. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to, like, politicize this too much, but, like, even these, like, hot button topics, like, you know, vaccination and these kind of things, like, if you don't have children, like, you really don't even need to be part of the conversation at all because you don't understand the fear of making a decision that could negatively impact your daughter either way.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

To do it, and then something happens. God forbid, now you feel that responsibility. You don't do it.

[Megyn Kelly]

It.

[Andrew Schulz]

And something happens. You feel that responsibility.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you're constantly. You know, these decisions are put in front of you. It's like, oof.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, like, you're trying to rely on your doctor and you're, you know, you try to find a good doctor and just do what he says. But then this whole past five years has really undermined health in doctors and public health officials. Right. So you're kind of like every institution,

[Andrew Schulz]

I feel like we have super low confidence in.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Every pediatrician that we've had has recommended that we get them the COVID vaccine, which we didn't. Yeah, my current. No, no, I got my one. Oh, no. I got myself the vaccine, which I regret, but I did not get it from my kids.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did you get a booster?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes, I got one booster.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, I didn't. I got. I got a fake booster so I could do a movie.

[Megyn Kelly]

I wish I had gotten fake.

[Andrew Schulz]

I got you. There's, like, some Jewish guy in Brooklyn that I went to.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, come on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Why didn't I know any of this?

[Andrew Schulz]

And then I gave it to the movie company to prove them that I was vaccinated. They hit me back. They're like, yeah, this is. And I was like, all right, I gotta talk to that guy again. It was.

[Megyn Kelly]

I was shocked. What did he shoot me up with?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

So you got the first two shots but nothing more?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I was excited. Like, I know this sounds crazy, but I was, like, excited to get the first two because I was like, I just want to get out. Like, I want to party.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I didn't know what the. It was.

[Megyn Kelly]

You were in New York.

[Andrew Schulz]

We went down to Miami.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

So we were in New York and everything was shut down. New York. And in the beginning, it was kind of exciting. It was just me and my wife were, like, making meals together every single night. You know, it felt like camping oh, I've never gone camping, but, like, that's kind of what I imagine it was. And then. And I was lucky. I'm doing podcasts. I'm doing what I do outside of stand up.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, like, my life wasn't that different outside of, like, not being able to eat out, I guess.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Come winter, it got brutal. Like, it was just. So we went down to Miami for four months, and it was amazing. Like, my whole team, we all went down there. I think day two, the entire team got coven.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Of course.

[Andrew Schulz]

Higher team. My poor guy was in our pool house for two weeks with Kobe. He got long covet. Like, it was. Yeah. I mean, it was great. I was. I just see him in the window just waving. It was incredible. Duff, who's here right now. But. But, yeah. Yeah. So there was this part of me that was like, I just want to be able to do things. Like, so shoot me up. I don't care.

[Megyn Kelly]

And they were Nazis in New York about it, which is your real home base.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah. It is tricky. Do you like. So there is this thing where I go. Yeah, we're gonna be more strict in New York where we live on top of each other. We're all on the subway together. Like, I don't want to compare New York to Montana. Like, when someone in Montana is like, I can't believe you guys did that in New York. It's like, yeah, you live on a ranch.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Like 500 acres.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, the rules are going to be different. You know, I got, like, a Dominican family above me that's going to play music at 12 unless the city has a rule that stops the music at 10.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

So sometimes you like a little government overreach if you want to get to bed, you know?

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, and we were all being told at the. On the initial vaccine that it would stop the spread. So, you know. Exactly. Make you not contagious.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is what I feel like people do that's just, like, so frustrating. It's like they. It's the lies to cover up the lack of information, and then you get these, like, conspiracies. Like, every conspiracy I imagine, like, the truth of it is probably way more boring, but it's probably, like, a little incompetence.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Somebody refusing to take accountability for their own incompetence, covering it up with a lie. And then the Internet gets after them trying to solve this puzzle. And it's just. If one person had the balls to just be like, yo, I fucked up.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that was me.

[Megyn Kelly]

I was the second shooter. I'm just gonna put it out there.

[Andrew Schulz]

We need the Victoria Secret guy who's. Epstein's west. Yeah, we just need him to come out. I mean, be like I funded it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Why can't we know more about him?

[Andrew Schulz]

Dude, this is the thing. It's like give him immunity. Give him immunity and then we can learn everything and we can move on. Yeah, but he's got it. No. Why'd you give this guy billions of dollars to manage?

[Megyn Kelly]

I have to tell you, I. I had a couple of conversation with somebody very close to the Epstein case, like very close to it, who shall go nameless for this conversation. And this person swore to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Acosta.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, that there's. That there.

[Andrew Schulz]

He could talk too. He knows shit too.

[Megyn Kelly]

That, that he wasn't this quote, pedophile.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Megyn Kelly]

That he was into like 16, 17 year old girls. Yeah. And that yes, some may have sort of gotten through that were slightly younger, but that wasn't exactly his thing. And that pretty much every famous celebrity was friends with him and went on his jet.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

But that at most all they were getting was like the so called massages from these 16, 17 year olds. As opposed to like a pedophile ring.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Now I don't.

[Andrew Schulz]

16, 17 is pedophile for me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, it depends on the state. It could be illegal in some places.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's probably legal. Like even in Canada or even like the UK or something in my France. I don't even know if they have an age.

[Megyn Kelly]

Probably not.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think they're still defending him over there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. The only thing they age is cheese.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, you think about it though, because like how did Alan Dershowitz wind up, you know, becoming Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer? How did all these world figures wind up on his plane? Because he had, you know, he had cachet, he had money. He was already connected. He was tight with the people at Harvard. That's all you really have to say, that you're tight with the people of Harvard and mit. Everybody will let you into their party at Cosign. Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like if you've got these certain credentials, you're good.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even need to check in on you.

[Megyn Kelly]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're tired with Harvard. You have an office at Harvard.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. You must be legit.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're a legit guy. Why would Harvard.

[Megyn Kelly]

Not even after you already pleaded guilty to something with a young prostitute. Like we're still. Katie Couric's still going to go to your dinner party at your mansion.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bill Gates is still going to ask you for marital advice.

[Megyn Kelly]

How about the Bill Gates thing?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, were you surprised when it came out that he was, like, with all these younger women and, like, these pool parties and it was like, you know, been so buttoned up in this, like, totally respectable person.

[Andrew Schulz]

Am I surprised that the billionaire guy had a bunch of chicks that he was sleeping with?

[Megyn Kelly]

Not so much, no. But it was totally contrary to his image at the time.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think Warren Buffett really wears khakis and drinks a Diet Coke on a bench in Omaha.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes, he does.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is. This is the beautiful lie that we're

[Megyn Kelly]

all explaining it to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

You think that that's what he's doing? You think he's just like, I'm going to have my hot dog and a Diet Coke? No, that's like propaganda. He's in a boardroom somewhere going, okay, we got a tr. Dollars to move around. Let's.

[Megyn Kelly]

I thought you were making a comment about women and Warren.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I don't think Warren's doing anything with women. Okay, it might be. I have no clue. I have. I have no clue. But, like, it. Nothing surprises me. Nothing shocks me, like, in order to make that money. Okay, I'm not talking about, like, tech. Billions is a little bit different, right? Because it's all like, fugazi. It's not real. It's like, okay, we think that this is worth. That everybody's trying to get rich on it. The stock price spikes, the businesses aren't actually making any money. Money. It's not real.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's all on paper.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's all paper. It's all speculation. Right? So. But like, in order to actually make like, proper billion dollars, like, you gotta kill, like, a few people, right?

[Megyn Kelly]

You do.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think.

[Megyn Kelly]

You think Elon has killed a few people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, what do you mean a few?

[Megyn Kelly]

What do you mean? Like how with a Tesla with a cell phone.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not like he shoots like. But also he's tech. Like, I don't know how profitable the business are. Yeah, like, how profitable are the businesses?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't. I'm sure he could cash out on some of these. Like Tesla.

[Andrew Schulz]

He'. Well, he's a genius. I'm not trying to be, like, overly critical of him, but I'm talking about like an actual. You are making dollars and cents business that you can cash out. Like, I mean, yeah, I don't think that you can have this, like, pious constitution and do that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Most of these people cash out and they. They sell like Mark Cuban, you know, he sold this business. He came up With. And there's just the one sale, because it seems like the first buyer winds up getting screwed. Like, he thinks he's going to build it. It's. It's. He's bought something meaningful, and then when he turns around, like, everything's collapsed. That happens all the time.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

You want to be the one who invents it. It builds it up into something big on paper, and then get out of town.

[Andrew Schulz]

Get the out of there.

[Megyn Kelly]

How about Elon now? He's in all over the news for the Doge stuff. He wore a suit the other night.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow.

[Megyn Kelly]

Mark. Mike Davis, who comes on the show a lot, he's a lawyer.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Trump affiliated, tweeted out something like two things. Elon has a suit and a babysitter. We haven't seen it. He's turning over a new leaf.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what the thing about Elon is? Is, like, he's obviously a brilliant guy, and you want brilliant people on your side, especially if, like, we're going to World War iii. Like, if we are go to war with Russia, China, whatever it is. I think you kind of want the rocket guy.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

On your side. Right.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, neither protect us or get us to Mars if things go to hell.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. Like, let's just. So we want to keep them over here. My concern about the Doge thing is this is. I don't think there's a single American out there that's like, I want waste, inefficiency and government corruption.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is a bipartisan supported issue. And I feel like, like, because maybe he's. He hasn't developed, like, the. The. The skill of politics. He's kind of, like, twisting the knife

[Megyn Kelly]

a little bit, and it's, like, too inhumane.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even know about inhumane. I. I'm just like. It's kind of like, gotcha. Here we go. Where you could rally support from all of this. Everybody wants this. The left should want this. The right should want this. This can be a victory for America.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think it is. I mean, like, would we have. You guys. We have that Harry engine thing I asked for. You know him over on cnn. He's hilarious.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know him from the cellar. He hangs out at the Comedy.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, he does?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, he is. He's funny himself. I love his New York accent. Here he is talking about the Doge and public reaction.

[Andrew Schulz]

This, to me, was one of the more shocking figures that I saw. Made me go, wait a minute. Hold on one second.

[Bill Maher]

Whoa.

[Andrew Schulz]

Americans on Trump and Doe's efforts. Musk and Doge should Influence government spending and operations. Look at this. 54%. The majority say that he and they should. How about a proof of Trump trying to cut staff at government agencies? Again, you get a majority here, 51%. So, yeah, Elon Musk might not be that popular, but these cuts in the idea of spending cuts, at least within the federal government and cutting a government agencies, that actually has majority support. I was truly surprised by this tape. But the numbers are the numbers. Democrats want to argue that the type of spending that Musk is cutting is mainly necessary program. But that comes in at just 36%. The wasteful spending actually wins the plurality here at 42%, according to a recent Washington Post Ipsos poll. And I think that is the reason why you see that when it comes to Dusk and Moj Musk and Doge, you see, in fact, the majority believe he should have some influence because they believe the plurality believe that he is cutting wasteful spending, not necessary programs that Democrats are arguing.

[Megyn Kelly]

So he is winning the PR board.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but to me, there shouldn't even need to be PR. I guess it should be 100%.

[Megyn Kelly]

What? What? How so? Like, he should be more clear on the Doge website, which is not that user friendly.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I don't even know if it's more clear. I think it's more like the tweets and like the antagonism within the tweets. And I think he's developed this very, like, polarizing personality online. And there's a way. Okay, the question right now is, is it possible to be less polarizing? Right. Like, what percentage?

[Megyn Kelly]

No matter who you are, of course.

[Andrew Schulz]

And like, now that he's in this position of it's not only like immense power, but also influence. And he's tackling a topic that is not partisan at all. Like, there is support here, so you don't need to antagonize at all. It's like, buddy, everybody's on your side. If you hire some people and then. Sorry, if you fire them and then have to hire them back, like, it's okay to be like, hey, we made a mistake there. We're not perfect. We're gonna, we're gonna do this right? And we're gonna figure this out. Like, it's okay to acknowledge these things. And this is where I think, like, having a little bit more experience in politics can be helpful, because this is. It is a different game. You're dealing with emotions, not facts. Yeah, you could show me those lists all you want. Like, people are emotional beings. They don't give a Like, what is it that dweeb says all the time? The Ben Shapiro guy? He's like, facts don't care about your feelings. It's like, no, no, dumbass. Feelings don't care about facts.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's true.

[Andrew Schulz]

We feel things. Like, there's a woman in Mexico that's going to see the Virgin Mary in her toast today because she feels the Lord and then sees it afterwards. We don't look at, like, usually, it's a Cinnabon.

[Megyn Kelly]

Fine, keep going. Just in my experience,

[Andrew Schulz]

that's how, you know. That's how, you know. Megan is locked in at the airport. Christ is king. When she's at the Cinnabon, I try

[Megyn Kelly]

not to let people see me going there.

[Andrew Schulz]

I love it. I love it. There's that great Louis CK Bit where he's like. Like, I went to Cinnabon after arriving. That's.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's sad. No, I actually, I don't go to CBON because I. I'm, you know, in my 50s, and I just can't do that anymore. But I will tell you, not too long ago, I was at the airport for a layover, and I wanted this so badly, and I'm like, I'm doing it. And I got not just the small bag and not the huge, huge bag, but like, the medium, sort of largeish.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Bag of Cheetos.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I ate every last one. There was a woman across me kind of looking at me, stealing glass. You could tell. She was kind of like, is she gonna eat that entire bag of Cheetos? I'm like, sister, I am America.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're just like us.

[Megyn Kelly]

It was so good.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stars are just like us. You deserve a bag of Cheetos.

[Megyn Kelly]

Guilty pleasure.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. Burned everything. What do you. You should be eating Cheetos every single night.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, then. Then. Then it starts to come back at you, you know, like, Then next thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

But then you get the Manjaro or the Ozempic or whatever like that.

[Megyn Kelly]

I. It's better to keep it off to begin with. Trust me. I've had to. I've lost and I've gained over the years. It's just better if you can keep it off.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's no more fat pride, huh? That really ended with the oic.

[Megyn Kelly]

I. I think if you're a leftist, there is. You think you have to at least say you are. Otherwise, you know, I think Ozempic ended that. Do you see Lizzo?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, she's beautiful.

[Megyn Kelly]

She looks awesome.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. I think they've all realized that, but it's. It was hard to do it because you got to, like, put in the effort, you know?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm not sure the left are doing it too.

[Andrew Schulz]

They're like, on the Oz epic. So there's.

[Megyn Kelly]

After telling us. Us that we were supposed to embrace it and it was healthy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ridiculed.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

For just being like, this is absurd. Like, what's going on? Not at all. And now they're all in Oz epic, and they're like, I'll just be a model. Model.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. What about swimsuit? Or Sports Illustrated now bringing back actual hot models for its magazine, America's Healing. Yeah. Right. They all do. Respect to Martha Stewart. I guess that didn't sell a lot of magazines. Or Gail King.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, why did Martha go in there?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. And so did Gayle King. And I think they eventually realized what

[Andrew Schulz]

they really wanted was a baddie back in the day, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Megyn Kelly]

You watch her special?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I did.

[Megyn Kelly]

He was crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

She is a psycho. But here's what I'm saying. She has some bodies that this is. You don't get to that number.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Without taking some people out. If someone told me that, like, Martha had someone killed, I wouldn't be like, Martha.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, really? Well, she is a convicted felon.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, you don't think she's capable of murder?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't.

[Andrew Schulz]

Herself, but, like, getting someone else to do it.

[Megyn Kelly]

No. Are you capable of murder?

[Andrew Schulz]

I could murder.

[Megyn Kelly]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, if somebody did anything to my daughter, I could kill them.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. Okay. Me too. Yeah. Or to protect. Act.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, of course. If somebody's, like, gonna, you know, do something.

[Megyn Kelly]

But what about for, like, you know, business.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, like, could I murder somebody to, like, get.

[Megyn Kelly]

To get a deal or out of a vendetta?

[Andrew Schulz]

No. I mean, I'll. If. Or where I could convince myself that they did something to my daughter, I'd be like, yeah, I definitely have to kill that comedian.

[Megyn Kelly]

But can I tell you something? Like, if you're a. If you're a sociopath. Yes, I. Because I've talked to some sociopaths. They actually have no qualms about this whatsoever. They will talk to you about, like, yes, yes, that is an acceptable menu item. Like, killing the person to take care of the problem is right there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, they just don't even. And. And, you know, one in four people are sociopaths.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I've heard this. Like, it's. It's kind of a sad way to live, though, you know? Well, yeah, like. But because, like, there's a competitive advantage about not Caring about people. But the human experience is connectivity. So, like, you go without that. Like, I was speaking to this guy. He used to be a CAA dude, and he was, like, borderline sociopath. And that's what they liked about him. Because you want people that can make those really difficult decisions. And I'm sure the CIA is all there, whatever.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Anyway, and he was telling me that, like, he. He's aware of what people should feel.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Even though he doesn't feel it.

[Megyn Kelly]

No. They study, they learn the proper way of reacting.

[Andrew Schulz]

But imagine not being like. Imagine your kid that first time you hear a kid laugh and the way that it, like, transforms your entire idea of what joy is.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

And imagine seeing that and feeling nothing.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're dead inside.

[Andrew Schulz]

What a horrible way to live.

[Megyn Kelly]

Can I tell you something? I can find out whether you are a sociopath.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, tell me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Two minutes or less.

[Andrew Schulz]

Go, go, go. This is good.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's a little riddle.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, go.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay. A man shows up at a funeral. Yeah. He goes to grieve the dead body at the wake. It was the wake. And he sees a woman near the casket. And they. They exchange a glance. You know, they make eye contact. The man leaves. The funeral, wraps up. A week later. That man kills that woman's mother. Why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Because he's a sociopath. Well, I probably do have the answer,

[Megyn Kelly]

but what do you think the answer is?

[Andrew Schulz]

Because that woman's mother was the mistress of his father.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're not a sociopath.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, wow. What is it?

[Megyn Kelly]

Because he wanted to see her again, the woman. Now, let me tell you something.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did you see how I went with women cheating?

[Megyn Kelly]

But can I tell you, everybody, my biggest fear?

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Megyn Kelly]

So. So the sociopath gets that. Like this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wait, really?

[Megyn Kelly]

They have that answer like this. And let me tell you where I got this test from. From my. Somebody who used to be in my life. That person's father was a psychiatrist in one of the worst prisons in America. And they would actually do this test on the patients and man by man by man, if. And by the way, to my listening audience, if it came to you right away, you might be a sociopath.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Turn yourself in.

[Megyn Kelly]

But you'll see it has to come. Like, if you're wrestling with it. And after, like, a minute, you're like, was it this? You've given a couple guesses and you get there. Eventually you're good. Because a sociopath immediately is like. Because he wanted to see her again. They just think differently.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, it is the. It is the easiest path to seeing her again.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

It guarantees it.

[Megyn Kelly]

And there's no moral objection on your list. Again, you're like, who cares? Isn't that crazy?

[Andrew Schulz]

It feels good that I'm not a sociopath.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. You can go tell Emma. Yes, I know, but I knew you were in. In my head while I was like, should I do the sociopath test on him? I was like, what if he fails and I've humiliated this poor guy in front of everybody? But then I was thinking about the video you put in your latest comedy thing on Netflix. I'm like, there's no way.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's the opposite is empath.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I think that's it. I'm like, you feel too much.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. I believe that about you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

You are a softie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I'm sensitive.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Very sensitive.

[Andrew Schulz]

And it's like. It's weird. It's like, I'm sensitive, but, like, I can. I can. I'm numb to certain things. Not numb, but, like, they don't really affect me. Like, criticism and going through all these, like, random Internet shit that I go through.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I'm. I am very sensitive to the people I really care about. So, like, reactivity within, like, my family or friend group. And then I'm also sensitive to, like, kind of, like cultural trends. I can, like, feel, like, frustration pretty early.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, what do you mean? Do you feel one now?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, not like. Like, what do I think for people? For example, like, what I think people really care about. Like, I think that the Democrats, for example, like, they could win the next election if they just make it a class issue. You, like, it's that simple. And they got to just be. They're not. They're so risk averse, and they need to be a little bit more brave Americans. We. We have very high risk tolerance or low risk. What's the one? I'm.

[Megyn Kelly]

Hi. We have high risk, high.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, everybody in our family's history, like, the craziest people in the world. Came here.

[Megyn Kelly]

Came here. Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, they lived in another country, left their entire family for maybe it working out, and then came over here.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

So we're built. Crazy. Crazy. So we like people to take risks, and we like bravery. And despite your politics, we react to those type of people. And, like, I think this is part of the reason why Bernie was so successful is he's out here, like, calling out the billionaire class, calling out these corporations, and even, like, people who were Republicans, like, working class Republicans were like, yo, who the is that? Yeah, I kind of like this guy. Like, it feels like he's kind of riding for.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's who Joe Rogan was for four years ago.

[Andrew Schulz]

All of us loved him. And despite 10.

[Megyn Kelly]

Whatever.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it was a while. But I. And I feel like that's kind of what the Democratic Party is missing is just I need a disruptive guy or girl who's willing to come out and say eggs are a dollar. Like, what's your build a wall.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You need eggs or a dollar.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

Even. And then you could, I don't know, subsidize it, whatever it is. But like, you need to smack into people emotionally.

[Megyn Kelly]

Do you feel like this is the answer? Because this is the latest messaging from the Dems on social media today. 13 choose your fighter video montage.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, God.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, yes. Yeah, It's Democratic female lawmakers. AOC in the fighting stance and bouncing. Oh, she looks like an idiot. Look at this one. Yeah, look at her. Jasmine Crockett. Oh, the last one's terrible. I'm. I have second hand and bear.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Is that what you mean by fearless and risk tolerance?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, exactly what I mean. That to me, makes me proud to be an American. Like, I feel safe with those women right there. They can defend me. Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Does that inspire you to get to the ballot box?

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, it's like I don't even know why AOC is there. She's actually, you know, like, her hate her politics. Like, I think she pulled the same as Trump in her district.

[Megyn Kelly]

She's good on the social media. I mean, if she knows how to use social media normally. I don't think she came up with that campaign.

[Andrew Schulz]

No. I think she's like getting on board with it, but at the same time, like her. I guess her constituents feel like she's fighting for her.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Where there's a lot of this. Yeah. Or sorry for them. And where it's like, I find a lot of times with the Democrats, there is this like pretentiousness. There's this like Ivy League educated, like second or third generation kind of trust fund Nepo babies that are like telling people how they should live and how. How they should vote. And it's like, first of all, if you've never had a real job, you don't get to about talk.

[Bill Maher]

Talk.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't get to talk. Like, I'm almost like, if you never had a kid, you don't get to talk. But like, if you never had a real job, you don't get to tell people how they should vote. Like, we, we just despise that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what I think they have to do is get back in touch with the working class. Is, is very much make this a class issue. And you got to call out those people who are giving you money, which these, you know, billionaires in these corporations that are donating and they won't do it. And that's why they'll probably lose. But the first person in that party that calls it out, out, you're going to see the Bernie effect happen again.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, I mean the, the problem they're dealing with right now is they don't know how to handle Trump. They don't know how to behave properly. You know, they're wave like don't talk to them. We're debating the spoon. They're debating whether you should stand when the 13 year old brain cancer stricken boy gets honored. They, they didn't do it. There's a meme going on right now. I think Riley Gaines posted it saying they, they knelt for 8 minutes and 43 seconds for George Floyd. Yeah, but they couldn't stand for Peyton McNabb. Yeah, the now 19 year old, formerly 16 year old who got slammed in the face with the volleyball. They couldn't stand for DJ Daniel, the little boy, the 13 year old boy with brain cancer. They couldn't stand for the widow of the cop who got gunned down. They couldn't stand learning that the terrorist who organized the Abbey Gate attack got arrested.

[Andrew Schulz]

But the problem with this is like they're falling for the trap crap. And this is why you need a little bit more like boots on the ground with the Dems. Like you gotta understand like what people think of you. Like, like we were saying, people are emotional. It's not like what you believe is real, it's what they feel is real. Right. So they've got a couple issues. They've got a masculinity issue, right?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, they do.

[Andrew Schulz]

I said something on, on Brilliant Idiots with Charlamagne. I was just joking around. I was like, I don't know, a guy like over5nine that identifies as a Democrat.

[Megyn Kelly]

I love that sound bite. On my show.

[Andrew Schulz]

They went, went crazy and I didn't realize it was going to be so reactive. And then afterwards I was like, oh wow. They, they, they have this deep insecurity that they're not seen as masculine. So that really tapped that insecurity.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, they do something about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well that's. So you have to find a way to be masc. You can be masculine and care for people. Like there's so many ways, like I'm a kid who grew up in like an arts family. In New York City. Like, my whole family's Democrats. Like, this is like there's tons of, of very masculine Democrats.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like shit, Bill was maybe too masculine. You know what I mean? There was a time where, like there was a time where Democrats were getting laid and Republicans were like, how do you do this outside the marriage? You got to wait for that has completely flipped.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep, completely. Did you feel it was masculine to hold up the little sign saying musk steals?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, God.

[Megyn Kelly]

Did you, did you feel you would have done that had you been a masculine Democrat?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even know. I mean, but to your point about this is like they're falling for the trap. The Republicans. Republicans know. Right. That they're gonna sit down. So they're putting out circumstances.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That they can't. They're like, if they sit for this, they're gonna look so bad.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's a no lose situation for Trump.

[Andrew Schulz]

But if they feel for it, it's actually a beautiful moment.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Look at this poor little kid.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And, and it's a great moment where we come together. It's just like doge getting rid of government waste and inefficiency. Inefficiency is a great thing for America. We should have bipartisan support for this. What Dems are doing is they're to going, going. You're a bad guy. And that worked when people thought Trump was bad guy. They don't anymore.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right, they don't. You're making yourselves look like the bad guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't even talk about him. Talk about the people you want to help. People are desperate. They need help. You need your build a wall. It's eggs or a dollar.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

You need your, your build a wall. It's. We're building 10,000 affordable housing units in every city. We're seizing this land and then have developers go, wait, you can't even do that. And go, I don't give a fuck if you say we can't do what we're doing.

[Megyn Kelly]

They don't have that guy put your

[Andrew Schulz]

balls on the ground. Like, just make it happen. Even if it doesn't happen. It's like Trump saying we're going to take Greenland. It's kind of fun.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right? Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like that.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's America. I like it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hell yeah. Like Gulf of America. I don't care. Why was it ever Gulf of Mexico?

[Megyn Kelly]

I know. We're so much bigger than they are.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. Matter of fact, they could still call it Gulf of Mexico. We don't care. Do you know what I mean? Like, but that's the energy that we need. Americans love abundance. Yeah, you need to sell us an abundance.

[Megyn Kelly]

Aren't you the guy? You're the one who said this to me, and I've quoted you on it many times, on how the moment Trump won you over was when he took the guy from Montenegro by the shoulder, was, like, to the back.

[Andrew Schulz]

Which one?

[Megyn Kelly]

When he was over at, like, the G7 or.

[Andrew Schulz]

I loved it. I love that.

[Megyn Kelly]

And he shoved that guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why am I in the back, right? Why?

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm America.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nobody even understands what this country is. This guy in the front, move out of the way. I will sit here. And then he did it. And everybody got in line. Line. It happens. You need that kind of. That is some, like, psychotic. I don't think I would have the balls to do that. That is some balls.

[Megyn Kelly]

Montenegro's in the back, sir.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bye. See you later. You're all in the back. It doesn't really matter, right. If I'm giving you money, you're in the back.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Are you guys giving me money? So why are you in the front? Right.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's like, that's part of his, like, weirdly, it's unbelievably charming charm and humor. What did you think of? I thought it was very funny. At the State of the Year Union. Did you laugh?

[Andrew Schulz]

Great. This amount for this country, nobody even knows what the hell it is.

[Megyn Kelly]

Did that make you laugh out loud?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. This is why. Another thing Democrats don't understand. They don't understand, like, why this, like, billionaire who was given money from his dad is so relatable. Well, why don't you listen to him talk? I've had conversations with, like, rich people. Okay. They don't talk like that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

They are incredibly buttoned up, a lot of them, and concerned publicly about their image, and they're very deliberate about what they say. Say he don't give a fuck.

[Megyn Kelly]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

When the Indian reporter was asking him the question, and he was just dibble dabbling, and then Trump let him finish and go, I don't understand what the hell that guy's talking about. You know who says that? The guy on the construction site.

[Megyn Kelly]

And he called her Pocahontas. At the State of the Union, this is what.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is how working class people talk. This is what. This is like what we do. This is how we communicate with one another. So when we see it happen, we're like, oh, wow, I relate to that human being. Again, again, emotional people. We're not Ben Shapiro. Feelings. No, Facts. That's not what we are. We Are I. What is it? Feelings of facts?

[Megyn Kelly]

Ben says facts don't care about your feelings.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. We're not the facts don't care about your feelings. We are. Feelings are the only thing that matter. And when you communicate with me in a way that all my friends communicate, I start to feel like, oh, I can kind of relate to you. It doesn't matter how much you try to make that person radioactive, because he's communicating and hitting me right at my core.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's so true. It's why his. His background in construction really made him, despite his advantages in his family and when it came to money, so relatable. Because he spent his whole life around working class people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. It's like. And I. And I say these things because I think America is at its best if we have two candidates that people really are having a difficult time deciding over. I don't want assist. Right. Like, I don't want a system. Like, a lot of times there's this, like, good versus evil dichotomy, and it's like they almost want the Democrats to be bad, and the Democrats want the Republicans to be bad. Like, I want America to win.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the only thing I'm concerned. Whatever candidate loves America more, that's what I'm voting for.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Well, that. And that was, I think, pretty clear between the Democrats of today and the Republican Party. The best moment of Trump that I've seen on this score is the one where he sat for that deposition on behalf of in the Eugene Carroll case against him. And the lawyer asked him, did you say that? That you can grab him by the P word and they let you get away with it if you're a celebrity? And Trump said, yes. And she said, why did you say that? That. Well, that's the way it's been for thousands of years. You know, unfortunately or fortunately, who would say that in a deposition in a case where you're being accused of sexual assault?

[Andrew Schulz]

I did a joke about that, and I was like. He said, yeah. He said, if a billionaire can grab you by the P word, and there's a lot of women that are like, oh, my God, you can't say that. And I was like, yeah, but none of you have met a billionaire. Like, why are you talking about this like, you're getting fingered by thousands.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, like, this is not a relatable circumstance for you. So, yeah, it's hard.

[Megyn Kelly]

Stand by. Let me try to get this ad in. We'll be right back. He's here all day. Netflix special called Life

[Advertisement Voice]

Building Better Health is a new conversation series from UnitedHealth Group that explores healthcare's most significant challenges and how we can fix them.

[Andrew Schulz]

The people that we serve, people that this is all about, are now asking the right questions. They're pressing for answers and quite rightly, their expectations are getting higher and higher. And that's a good thing because what that is doing is it's pushing the system towards increased transparency as we all work together to answer those questions.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm Cyndi Lauper with fellow Kosentix advocate Chef Michele Bernstein. We'll share our experiences with plaque psoriasis

[Advertisement Voice]

with psoriatic arthritis and Dr. Panico will talk about the possible connection.

Cosentic Secukinumab is prescribed for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis dose and adults with active psoriatic arthritis. 150mg dose. Don't use if you're allergic to Cosentyx before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. An increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. Like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal or viral infections, some are fatal. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough had a vaccine or planned to, or if inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, serious allergic reactions and severe eczema like skin reactions may occur. Learn more at 1-844-cosentix or cosentyx.com Cindy

[Andrew Schulz]

I walked in that hospital with so much confidence. They handed me a cup. I'm handing them back a martini. I'm ready. Remember I went in a room room. I jerked off, I opened my eyes, I looked down. I thought I missed. There was so little sperm in this cup. I could have counted them individually. There was a red line on the cup three quarters of the way up. For what reason I do not know to this day, three quarters of the way. What, what zoo animal hippopotamus cups are you giving out to people? Why are you even giving me a cup? Give me a contact lens gaze. I'll turn that shit into a Guinness.

[Megyn Kelly]

That was so funny. It's part of hello again. This is Andrew Schultz with me today. This is the latest Netflix special. It's out now. It's called Life and it's so well worth your time. You know, maybe don't watch it with like your 8 year old, but teenager absolutely love it. And it's I always say like I watch the whole time where I'm like oh my God, I'm dying, I'm crying I hope nobody knows what I'm watching. I hope they can't hear what I'm laughing.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's some adult content in there, for sure, but it's all in.

[Megyn Kelly]

But here you. This is a personal story. This whole thing is about your journey with Emma and trying to conceive a baby, and, I mean, no detail is spared. Yeah, but. So it's very personal. It's unusually personal for you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Did you. Did you run it by her first?

[Andrew Schulz]

So the. The thing was, is. Yeah. At first, like, you know, this is the most, like, male thing. Like, but it's. I assume that the reason why we couldn't is because it was her fault. Right. And I talk about it in the special where I'm like, she was really concerned it was her fault, and I was really concerned it was her fault. Like, we were all really concerned.

[Megyn Kelly]

Obviously. Her fault.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Because, like, men, we have this, like, confidence in our sperm that, like, there's no real reason why, but we just know. Right. Like, every time I've ever had sex with a girl, I was like, oh, my God, this is gonna be cr. Like, what should we do? How do you know? Calling the next month. I know she's pregnant, guaranteed. Which I now know is a waste. And once we found out that her ovaries were perfect and my sperm was horrible, it. It actually made it a lot easier for me to talk about. Really?

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because I think the reason why, like, anybody who has fertility issues. Issues, 1. It's very isolating because you're so protective of the person that you love that you don't. A lot of women feel a lot of shame around this.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

And at first, I. I felt, like, real shame. I was like, does God not want me to have a child? Like, I was like, I didn't understand it. Like, I think I'm, like, a pretty good person, and I'm kind to people, and I'm like, why is this happening? Like, what the. Is going on? And. Yeah, so I get that. And a lot of women, if they are struggling, they're just like, it's. It. They feel like it's a. I don't feel very stigmatized. Right. And. But once she was perfect and I was up, I could get on stage, and I was really cathartic to talk about it. And then once I started talking about it, I literally thought that I was like, this was, like, a one in, like, 10 million thing.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

The second I started talking about, all my friends start telling me that they're doing ivf.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

And like, all these people in the audience would hit me up afterwards. They're like, oh, yeah, you know, same thing happened. And I was like, what the. Is this, like, like, the last taboo subject?

[Megyn Kelly]

How did anybody ever get pregnant before ivf? Because everybody's doing it, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is like, it's unbelievable. It's. It's almost like I was like, does anybody really get abortion? Like, I'm like, it's so hard to get pregnant. Why is this an issue? Like. Like, how often do these athletes have unprotected sex that they have 20 kids? Like. Like, I couldn't believe it. It was unfathomable. So. But then it became, like, as brutal as it was, there was these kind of funny moments that being one of them, just that.

[Megyn Kelly]

The humility going into the room with the lady. We just talked to the audience, you know, Doug came in to say hi to Andrew in the commercial break, and we were bonding over our shared experience because he and I did IVF with our kids, too. And Doug joked that after he had to donate the sample first, he said he was going to wear, like, a red crushed velvet smoking jacket on his way in and on the way out, he was just going to be like, that was fantastic. I was amazing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I was always thinking about, like, I make noises in there. Like, how uncomfortable do I make it for the other guys at the clinic? Like, just screaming random things.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sesame Street. Just something crazy. But, yeah, it's like, I was crazy.

[Megyn Kelly]

It was like a walk of shame when you're walking by all the other guys there, everybody's there. Oh, God. I know what you're about to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's so humbling.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're just sitting in this room. Like, all of you are in there.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're like, so why did they make you go in to give the sperm sample? Couldn't they.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I did it from home once.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay. Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

The whole. I don't even. I haven't even put, like, a lot of the stuff in it, but, like, the whole journey was brutal. So the first one I did from home, which was like, I'm in the room, my wife, like, hands me the thing. Like, it's like, homework. And she's like, okay, I'll give you 30 minutes. You go do your thing. I'm going to go outside or I'm going to do the dishes. So, like, I hear her doing the dishes in the background, where I'm, like, being mandated to masturbate, and I'm, like, on our bed. Like, I don't think I've Ever masturbated on a bed? Like, I'm just on our bed, and the bed is made perfectly. Like, everything is, like, set up. And I remember at one point, like, I'm just like, I don't know. This is, like, so weird. And I, like, looked up and the TV was off, so it was just a black screen. So it's a perfect mirror of me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I was just like, this is the saddest day of my life. I'm sitting Indian style on my bed, trying to make a sample. This cup. We send that sample in, it comes back, and it's like, it's. It's not good.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh.

[Andrew Schulz]

And they're like. Not only are they not swimming, they're, like, shaped with weird. And I was like. I was like, a little defensive, so I was like, well, could that be from, like, the speed that they hit the cup? Like, maybe, you know, it's the blunt force trauma kind of warped them a little.

[Megyn Kelly]

Flow is just too strong.

[Andrew Schulz]

It was too strong. That's what. That's what it is. And they're like, no, that's definitely not it. And I was like, okay. And they go. They go, well, why don't you do this for, like, a couple months? Wear baggy underwear. Ice your balls every single day.

[Megyn Kelly]

Ice them.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Whoa.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, Yeah. I guess that's a big thing. Don't drink anymore, don't smoke anymore, and take these pills and then we'll try it again in like a month or two. And I did that, and we tried it again, and it got worse.

[Megyn Kelly]

No. What?

[Andrew Schulz]

And I was like, why do you think that is? And the doctor's like, we've never seen this before.

[Megyn Kelly]

There's some pride in that. It's got to be a little bit. Records. I told a story one time when Dave Rubin was on, but Doug had the funniest experience there, where they make you ejaculate.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like 24 hours before the real sample. That's going to be like your future, kid.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

They want you to clean the house.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's like, I can't remember if it's 24 or 48 hours.

[Andrew Schulz]

48 hours before. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay, so. But they want it to be 48.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

And they don't really want it to be 46 or 44 because you need

[Andrew Schulz]

the amount of time to build up the new batch.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. So, like, timing does matter. It just so happened that on one of ours, we were visiting my. My nana, who was literally, like 90 at the time, and we were playing Dom Domino's. And I was like, doug, it's time. He was like, what? I'm like, you gotta go in there right now. My poor husband. And, you know, it's like one of these older person's homes where, like, there's five inches between the bottom of the door and the ground. You can hear every piece of conversation. Domino's. Like, you're palming the double five, you know? And Doug said. Horrible.

[Andrew Schulz]

For Doug, this is the thing about this.

[Megyn Kelly]

Do what you got to do.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's a. It's the.

[Megyn Kelly]

This.

[Andrew Schulz]

The journey is brutal when you're in. It is the hardest thing that you'll go through in your life. Sorry. Definitely the hardest thing we went through. And. But after the fact, it is hysterical.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. Like, I can't believe what you've been through.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And, like, there are so many of these things that are so funny. And the beautiful thing about having a child is you get this, like, amnesia.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

For what you went through to get the. Get there, I think that's actually kind of, like, built into our DNA, so we keep making them.

[Megyn Kelly]

I totally agree. You know, like, same women have been saying that for eons because of the pain of labor, and it's so, you know, devastating, and then you forget all about it. I never had labor because I had three C sections, but my friends tell me it's extremely painful.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, my. Emma was in there for 24 hours, and then she had the C section because the. The baby's heart rate dropped.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, God, that's scary.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

The whole thing is. Is. Is terrible. When you were doing the shot before to prepare for the ivf, like, did you have any fun mood swings or anything?

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, yeah. I was actually fine. No way. Did not have weird mood swings. But it was very funny because Doug does not. Like, he. His mom got this terrible cut in her leg, and it was so brutal. And Doug was right there. He bandaged it up. He put the medicine on. I was like, I can't take that kind of injury. But you pull out a needle, and Doug is one the of those. Like. Oh.

[Andrew Schulz]

So he.

[Megyn Kelly]

So he couldn't take shots, but he had to. In the beginning, as it turned out, he didn't have to, but we thought he did.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Because in the beginning, they really make it up into a thing. Like, you got to mix the compound, and then it's, like, kind of back in a hard spot to reach. You got to ice the area. Oh, my God. Like, our future family depends on this. And Doug was in a hot, like, a cold sweat and the superintendent of our building at the time, his name was Lance. And they're like, it's very important that your wife have a partner that helps with. And. And Doug is like, this is gonna be very hard for Lance.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. But he.

[Megyn Kelly]

He did it. He did it. He got it through. But honestly, by the third child, you know, he. Doug was no part of it. I was like, I. I need no ice. I'm good. Boom. We're done. Off to the race.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is crazy that they make you mix it at home. So anybody who's not familiar, they give you these two, I guess, hormonal compounds, and you have to put them together

[Megyn Kelly]

in the syringe in just the right proportion.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm like, why isn't this done at the lab? And then we just hit it. Like, you don't have to make the Kit Kat. Right? Like, make the bar and then send it to me. And I remember, like, watching my wife do these things, making sure it's the right amount. You got to push a little out so no air gets in there.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right, Right. So you don't give yourself an air bubble, like, life or death, literally.

[Andrew Schulz]

And she's like, did I push too much out? Will I not get it? Is this. But there. Yeah, there was. I mean, Emma would get, like. It would really get her going.

[Megyn Kelly]

Did you get angry or just overly emotional?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, angry, like, but we didn't know that that was the cause. So, like, I remember we got into it at a Japanese restaurant. You don't realize how quiet those restaurants are until you're having, like, a loud blow up. Like, and, you know, the only thing interrupting the blow up because everybody is already quite a Japanese restaurant. And then once you have, like, a verbal altercation, they're really quiet.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, I love when somebody has a fight and I'm nearby.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, my God.

[Megyn Kelly]

Doug and I, like, he'll start talking. I'll be like, be quiet. This is too important.

[Andrew Schulz]

Everybody was locked in. They're just slurping udon and watching us. And the only thing that would interrupt it is, like, when a new person would walk in and, you know, the whole restaurant has to go. Emma would feel like they were interrupting our argument. So. So. So we're fighting Hasimase. Emma goes, are you kidding me? And then back to yelling at me. It's just amazing.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, weren't you. So you weren't that guy who was like, she's going through a lot. These are just her emotions. I'm just going to let. I'm going to let everything slide. I'M not going to get mad about anything.

[Andrew Schulz]

We didn't know that it was the case. So we didn't know until literally that night. I go, hey, did we do the shot? We did the shot today, right? And she goes, oh, we're walking down. We were on Kenmare Street.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's when you put it together that she's hormonal.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then, and then she was also like, oh, I guess I'm like really reactive to this. And then from then on we stop going to Japanese restaurants.

[Megyn Kelly]

And then how about after she had the baby? Did she have like. Because you're sleep deprived, you're very hormonal.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's the most insane thing if, if you're. Did you breastfeed?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. That is the, I think that this is, I think that is the most difficult part of child rearing is the, the. If you are breastfeeding full time, like meaning every two hours.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is insane.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is insane. Pain every two hours. So you're waking up. I don't think a lot of people know this. You're waking up every two hours in the night. You don't get more than an hour of sleep at a time.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's truly like a, like an astronaut training situation. Yeah. No, it's brutal. But then, then lets up a little.

[Andrew Schulz]

When it lets up, this is beautiful bonding experience that you have with your child. And like it's something even now like Emma's still breastfeeding and it's just this thing that she's like, she doesn't even want to let go of it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Well then you get to like the six month mark where the baby can start having like smaller like solid foods and they're still having breast milk. And you're at the point now where like you're, you're producing the more, more milk than ever. And yet the baby's somewhat getting a little independent.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yep.

[Megyn Kelly]

And the weight comes shredding off. That's the best moment where you're like, I'm making tons of milk. All these calories are coming off for free.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, because your body is burning calories,

[Megyn Kelly]

but your, your baby doesn't need as much milk as from you. Right as he needed it five months because now he's starting to eat, eat food. But your body doesn't know that. So still burning like 800 calories a day. You're like, oh my God, I have a waste again. There's a normal ass. Thank you, sweet baby. I always say they're selling breastfeeding to moms all wrong that you would care about the health of our babies. But we know that babies are formula fed are fine too. You have to sell it to them like oic.

[Andrew Schulz]

You'll be skinny. Yes, it is natural oic.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's natural oic.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let that baby suck the fat out of you. They put it on you.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's the least they can do.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is their gift.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow, that is so true. Yeah. Emma really got her shit back.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Was your baby's only like one now, right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, 13 months.

[Megyn Kelly]

So now is it, is it kicking in now? Like, that's usually when you're like, what about let's. Let's go get a fire up the machines again, Literally.

[Andrew Schulz]

She was like, do you want to do it this month? And I was like, can I just get the special out? Can I get. Let's get the special out. Let's do like a weekend somewhere. There's been like three years in the making.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Between like making a baby and also, you know, making the special. And like, let's just take a. Let's just take a little vacation.

[Megyn Kelly]

And you've probably been told this, but, you know, like, the difference between one and two is large.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wait, tell me, what do you mean? Like your relationship with them or.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, no. When you just have one baby, like in the beginning, you're overwhelmed, as you know, but like by year one, you kind of get it down.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And things are, you know, you can still have a life.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. You can still take a nap. You and Emma can still steal away for like an hour in the middle of the day.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

While your one baby is asleep. Or somebody else would easily watch your one baby.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

But when you have two babies, like under the age of three, you're effed. There's no napping ever. There's no downtime. This is where you really start thinking about having live in help. Like, who can come live with us? What about so I can sleep again? I don't even remember three. It's like all a blur. But I, I felt the difference from 1 to 2 was much larger than from 2 to 3. Like you, you've given up your free time when you have two.

[Andrew Schulz]

Got it, got it.

[Megyn Kelly]

And like a third, even a fourth, I think would have, I would have had a fourth if I had been younger when Doug and I had met. But one to two is big.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. My, my buddy said, he goes, he, he, he agreed on 1 to 2. He goes, but 2 to 3, because he just had his third. He goes, he goes, man, 2 to 3. He goes, I don't know. I go, what do you mean? You know? He goes, you're outnumbered, bro. There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do. They have you. Like, you're with one, this one's around doing something. You just constantly need help. Yeah, it is a. Especially when they're. But yeah, we want to have another one.

[Megyn Kelly]

We would love another one. No, I, I remember early on in our tenure of having two, Doug went to see his mom one day. His went to visit his family, but it was just, just a day trip.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And it was the first time I'd been alone for like 12 hours with both of them without Doug being there. I'm like, I'm good. I'm fine. Like, I had a newborn and a 2 year old and like, honey, I'm. Trust me, I'm. I'm the mother. I've got this. And so I was pushing. It was late in the day. Things hadn't gone that smoothly, I'm not gonna lie. And I took them out for a walk and I was pushing the baby in her stroller and my 2 year old was like walking next to me. Earlier, he was on like that little ride on thing that you can put on your stroller, like on his feet. And he had this thing where he loved to take off.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay.

[Megyn Kelly]

So we're. I'm pushing the baby up a hill and he's on the little ride on thing standing, standing there. And Doug turns the corner in his car, coming home just at that moment, right? So he sees the whole thing. So at this moment, Yates, our oldest, did not see Doug. He was just doing his thing. He takes off running. And there's a massive street straight ahead to, to which he's running. And I can't just let go of the baby stroller because I'm on an incline. Like, if I let go the baby stroller, she's gonna go, yeah. But he's running toward traffic the other way. So all this is happening and there's Doug and he, he kind of does the gentle beep and waves. And I was like, oh, hi. Oh, totally. Yeah. And then finally I'm like, lock the stroller, try to rescue the toddler. I'm like, I got it all under control. No, he knew it wasn't true.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, you just gotta.

[Megyn Kelly]

The whole thing is so humbling, isn't it?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And as you add more and as they get older into the toddler years,

[Andrew Schulz]

even more so, it is amazingly humbling. That's the Best way to describe it. All of it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right. You don't know anything.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know nothing. It's crazy. They even give you the baby. I remember when they first gave us the baby to leave, I was like, how is this legal?

[Megyn Kelly]

Is there someone more qualified?

[Andrew Schulz]

We are. We are not professionals at all. Like, they just give you, like, here's how you wrap it.

[Megyn Kelly]

All right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Have a good. Good luck at home.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, it's just.

[Megyn Kelly]

So do you do. Are you an involved dad? Do you change diapers? Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I feel like you can't. You can't really have an opinion on how it's raised if you're not doing some of the things. Like, obviously, I'm at work, you know, y. So, like, Emma, this was actually really hard for her. I wonder if. If you felt this way at all. But, like, you know, my wife.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, there you are.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's my little Shiloh Shiloh.

[Megyn Kelly]

She's so cute.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. So. So Emma's like. She's, you know, very, like, successful in her own right. Like, she got her mba, and then she was working and managing AI projects for Apple, and then she was like, I don't really want to do this. I want to be a mom. And I feel a little guilty even saying that, but that is the true thing that I want to do with my life. Like, it's always been my dream to be a mom. And I was like, listen, if you want to want to do it, don't do it because I said it, because then you'll resent me if you realize that you wish you never should have quit your job.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But if you want to do it, then go for it. And it was, like, interesting watching her, like, grapple with that. And that's something that I hope changes in the very near future.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think it's starting to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, I think that we should reward mothers that stay at home in the same way that we reward. Reward mothers that go work and.

[Megyn Kelly]

And value and talk about. Yeah, yeah. I. I feel like Republicans are way ahead on that. Democrats. I don't think they're there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, maybe not. I mean, it's just, like, when you go to certain countries that, like, value. I think it's also, like, a big city thing where there's not a lot of, like, family built into it. Like, I grew up in New York City, and it was very rare that there were, like, families there. And so they're just. The idea of it, like, a kid crying on the subway can be, like, bothersome to some people.

[Megyn Kelly]

And.

[Andrew Schulz]

And whereas, like, Once you have kids, you see a kid crying, you're like, oh, that's adorable. Or bad for the parents. But I hope that as the pendulum continues to swing with feminism or masculinity or whatever these things are, I hope that there is this place for moms that stay home and it is a privilege, but that they don't feel this kind of scrutiny. I think it's, like, a really beautiful thing if you can afford it to do.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And also for guys who. Who are sensitive and empathic.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

But not Man Bun Sand, Mandel, Mercenaries.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't get about, like, the masculinity movement right now. It's like, a lot of these guys, like, at the. At the forefront of it, like, don't even. Aren't even dads.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So it's like, yeah, okay. You got, like, you could deadlift, like,

[Megyn Kelly]

or some are just, like, you know, or deadbeat dads. I was gonna say they're producing children, but they're not even looking after.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's like, why are you.

[Bill Maher]

Why do you.

[Andrew Schulz]

You get to decide what masculinity is like? I think that's, like, the least masculine thing you can do. That's like a coward.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I was talking to Rogan about this. He says, listen, there's a lot of out there and even need a leader of the. And I think sometimes we're mistaking them for, like, being masculine guys. It's like, having muscles doesn't make you masculine. Like, to me, being involved in your kid's life is masculine.

[Megyn Kelly]

What? I mean, what tough guy ever tells you how tough he is? They don't. They don't talk about that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. Like, the greatest of all. Like, Michael Jordan never said he was the greatest. He didn't need to. We knew.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

So, like, when I see, like, involved parents, like, one of the most beautiful things about this whole process, even talking about these things, is, like, seeing how much people love their children and, like, feeling really comfortable sharing that. And they'll share these stories about when they first had their kid. And, like, seeing dads. I mean, this guy who's driving me. And when I was in Austin recently, he was telling me about how he does this, like, daddy, daughter dates. He has these two daughters, and they each get a different day. And, like, that's the. I would like to see promotion promoted a little bit more in the masculinity movement in America. Like, don't tell me, like, how much time that you could, like, jog.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, I Don't care how many miles you could run or how much

[Megyn Kelly]

money you have in the bank.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, like, I don't give a. They don't give. I'll tell you one thing they don't. Your daughter don't care.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, you do a very funny bit in life about how you. You have. There's so much pressure being a dad to a daughter because one wrong move, and she's on only fans.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo. And it's your fault.

[Megyn Kelly]

You missed a volleyball game.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's. And it's your. It's daddy. Like, there's no such thing as shoes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, we have that. Okay, let's watch that. That's so funny.

[Andrew Schulz]

I have a screenshot of the moment I found out that I was gonna have a daughter. If you want to see stress, if you want to see pressure, put that up. That's. That's a real picture. Pressure of knowing no matter what happens to your daughter is dad's fault. I miss one volleyball game, she starts in only fans. It's my reason.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're not wrong. Daddy issues is a thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's mommy issues?

[Megyn Kelly]

No, it's not really. I mean, it can happen, but what is it? It's not as much of a phrase.

[Andrew Schulz]

We don't even know what it is. Like, there's no. Like, if a kid shoots up a school, we don't go, ah, mommy issues.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, it's more like he can't leave his mom. I. That's what I attribute to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's awesome.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Job. Being a mom. Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

Your son loves you and has a deep connection to the most important human being. And, like. Like, that's a positive effect.

[Megyn Kelly]

Now you're terrified of making the wrong move.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, like, I don't know. I don't want, like, I. I want my kids to be incredibly comfortable with their family, not, like, waiting to jump at the first person who's going to take them away.

[Megyn Kelly]

You. You wouldn't find it empowering for your daughter to consider becoming a, quote, sex worker?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, my God.

[Megyn Kelly]

This was praised.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can we just call them, like. I hate the fact that we're, like, making up these terms that make it seem more dignified. Side.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's whore.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's it.

[Megyn Kelly]

What about that girl on Only Fans? I don't know her name, but she's the one who had sex with, like, a hundred people in a day, and then, like. And she's now going on a tour of nursing homes.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's cool. I like that.

[Megyn Kelly]

I wondered how you're Gonna react to that.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like it. I had a crazy thing we do.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh. Actually, my team is way ahead of me here. Here she is. And so 24. Her name is Lily Phillips, Oldest fan via Facebook. And when I asked for his address, he actually sent me the address of a care home. So I'm actually here with him and his friends and I'm gonna show them a good time.

[Andrew Schulz]

So these. They actually figured it out. This is heroic. I liked it. This.

[Megyn Kelly]

No judgment.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They figured it out. Those are second sex workers. That's work. That is. No, no, no, no, no. This is. I didn't know that they were doing this when they were doing those like, you know, 100 girls or 100 dudes or thousand dudes or whatever. I'm like, this is disgusting. But. But having sex with old guys in old people homes, that is like, that is altruism. That is.

[Megyn Kelly]

When we're talking about charity, that's what you say.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, when she's ready. That is charity. That is beautiful. That is fucking beautiful.

[Megyn Kelly]

I feel so uncomfortable with it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's uncomfortable.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes, very.

[Andrew Schulz]

But not for them. Those guys there, oh. Oh, they're so excited.

[Megyn Kelly]

What do you mean? They like, you know, could. They could die happy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, they'll die happy. They'll also just forget it and then the next day. That's the sad part is they won't even remember it happened.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. That's actually one of my favorite jokes I heard a long time ago, which was like a 95 year old guy marries a 25 year old gal and goes to the doctor right before the wedding and he says, is there anything I need to know, doc? And the doc says, yeah, you know, you should know that sex at this point could be dangerous, even lethal. And he said, if she dies, she dies.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's great.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's. My dad is a dementia and which is, you know, obviously very sad. He's my hero and you know, he's. He introduces me in the special and. But like during this time where Em and I are trying to get pregnant, I would go over every week to see him and he'd be like, how things going? And I'm like, it's, you know, rough trying to get. I'm just trying to get pregnant. It's just not really going that well. And he would go, he goes, well, if you need some help, you know, I could, I can help you. And he would forget that. He would say the joke. And every week I would go over and he would offer to have sex with my wife and put a baby in her. So this goes on for like six months. So this is. Now what I will say is that might be like the negative side of dementia, but one of the cool positives is. And you know, life is about perspective. Right. You can have good perspective on even the worst things. Like he gets to find out he has a granddaughter every single time I see him.

[Megyn Kelly]

Is that right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Now sometimes he'll kind of remember. Sometimes it might not be there, but like, that must be a pretty cool feeling.

[Megyn Kelly]

Does he remember you?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it's his. It's. It's hard building new long term memories.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like the way the memory is, it works is there's like short term and long term and you can create new long term memories just by continuous this efforts. So like repeating the same thing over

[Megyn Kelly]

and over again with the table manners.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, exactly.

[Megyn Kelly]

Reinforcement, Reinforcement constant.

[Andrew Schulz]

But. But short term, he doesn't really.

[Megyn Kelly]

How old is he?

[Andrew Schulz]

He's 81.

[Megyn Kelly]

So how long has he been dealing with this?

[Andrew Schulz]

Honestly, it started I think when I got out of college, like even 20 years ago. I started noticing these things, like very small, but it was like, oh, something's kind of up. And then.

[Megyn Kelly]

So does that, does that make you worry for yourself? Do you ever think about it?

[Andrew Schulz]

Anytime I forget anything, I'm like, I got it.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I don't know if it exactly works like that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right. I know I have such a fear of this and my mom doesn't have Alzheimer's and my dad died too young for me to know, you know, he died at 45 of a heart attack. But I worry about it so much because like, it can happen to anybody and it can. Even if you're using your brain as you do for a living. As I do for a living, you're not immune. It's got Sandra Day o' Connor who's like, I mean, you're not. There's nothing more intellectual actually straining than being on the U. S. Supreme court.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

So it's just so indiscriminate and it's terrifying to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some say diet.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep. Diet I could really impact. I think that's every time I have a sleepless night, I'm like, ah, it's over. Get my early alleys. Yeah, it's coming on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Because you do. You don't remember when you have a bad night sleep, you don't remember that as well the next day.

[Andrew Schulz]

I will say it. It does kind of expose like your true character in a lot of the times and one of the cool, rewarding things about it is just, like, seeing what, like, a good human my dad is, I've always thought he's like this angel, but, like a truly just good, kind human. Like, he was. My mom had to take his, like, debit card because he would, like, give the people who sell the fruit in the neighborhood just money and forget he did it. And then go back. Oh, and keep.

[Megyn Kelly]

He was popular.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. These. Kept letting them give him money.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, no, that's low.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that is low.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, that's.

[Andrew Schulz]

So I made the call to Trump and I. I was like, we got some elite.

[Megyn Kelly]

I got a couple speaking of having murder people.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, that's. I mean, that's good. You take care of him. You have a good perspective on it. I always feel like if God for this happens to me. I said this to Doug, you know, please make sure I'm sitting in a room with all my favorite movies just on loop.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yep.

[Megyn Kelly]

And in my favorite audio books, just playing on lube. Like, I can just keep enjoying these series over and over and over.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm not sure that's exactly the way it works, but that's how I'd like to believe it's going to work.

[Andrew Schulz]

It will, but I don't think that. I don't know. Who knows what will happen? I hope it won't happen. But don't stress about it now.

[Megyn Kelly]

I know you shouldn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

Plenty of time to stress about it later.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, the other thing is, you know, there's. This is one of the things that RFKJ's been talking about. You know, there's been such bullshit going on in the public health world for so long. And we talked about this, about this on our show four, three years ago, where this massive thing came out with this guy committed fraud in saying they'd made this major breakthrough in Alzheimer's and that they really, really zeroed in on the amyloid plaque.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And then it turned out out he had been faking all the photos to show this, and they'd been repeated, and he was like, the gold standard researcher in all this. And now it's like it was Alzheimer's research was set back by 15, 20 years. It's one of the other reasons why it just feels so good. We have people in there now who will not treat any of this prior bullshit as, you know, godly and untouchable. You know, Jay Bhattacharya, who just took over at nih, he's being confirmed right now. His hearings are. Are underway. They Were like, so you're not going to go back and look at whether childhood vaccines are linked to autism? Right. Those are well settled studies that it's. There's no link whatsoever. And to his credit, he was like, look, I understand there's been a lot of research on this, but I'm not. He basically said, I'm not going to say never. Like, I think there's nothing wrong with going back and looking and then revealing the science to everybody.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think. I think that the most important thing that anybody that is representing a government institution can do Right. Right now is be transparent about their failures and their successes. So if going back and looking at the research and then presenting studies shows that there is no link, that's awesome.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Now I trust it coming from you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I'm feeling concerned. Like, I joke around all the time. Like, I believe whatever. The last YouTube video I watched is that. That is what I believe 100%.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm easily convinced. Like, I am locked in. So if. If you're. If you're rfk, if you're this guy, it's like, just be transparent. Tell us where the I' were.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't gaslight us. Because we've been gaslight so gaslit so much that I feel like that it's completely dissolved our confidence. Confidence in these institutions. And in order to have, like, a proud American public, we need something to be proud of. We can be proud. We up, too. You can up and we will forgive you. Give us that opportunity.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I cannot forgive you if you continue to lie to me.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you are not accountable for anything of all. Like, and I think that's why Fauci, he'll never be forgiven. That's why he probably took the. He took the. What's it called?

[Megyn Kelly]

The science. The. The pardon.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. It's like, why do you even need to take the pardon?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Meanwhile, I will say Elon's out there. Like, we did screw up. We canceled funding for Ebola. Nobody likes Ebola. But you know that. We're resuming that.

[Andrew Schulz]

More of that. I love that. Like, to me, instead of looking at that. And hopefully the opposition, or hopefully Democrats don't use them. Be like, see, he's an asshole. You should use that in existence. Example of how you should conduct yourself in public. Hey, we messed up. We're bringing it back. We're bringing those people back.

[Megyn Kelly]

It doesn't sound like Trump to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Trump refuses to ever do it. He is your show.

[Megyn Kelly]

The first one on which he explained the weave yeah, it was. Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

That was an amazing soundbite.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, dude. He was the. I think the best moment of that whole thing to me was when he goes, I'm basically an honest person, and I'll never forget that. I think about that once a day because it's actually the most honest thing you can say.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you. Everybody looked at that, like, see, he's admitting he's a liar. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. A liar would say, I'm an honest person.

[Megyn Kelly]

I never lie. Yeah. And meanwhile, I don't know if this is true, but they say, like, the average person lies something like 15 times a day. It's something ridiculous. But no, that was a great interview that you did with him. Next, we actually have a clip of it. Right. Let's. Let's. Let's play it, and we'll take a break later.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, I do a thing called the weave. I don't ramble. What you do is you weave things, and you do it. You need an extraordinary memory, because you have to come back to where you started.

[Bill Maher]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

You always. A weave is only good for that. It's true that you could go all the way over here and then get back. I can go so far here or there, and I can come back to exactly where I started. Now, someday, when you don't come back to where you started, you're Biden.

[Megyn Kelly]

He. He wasn't wrong. Like, it was. And he does do the weave, and he does manage to land it back.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, he's just. The way. He's. Like, the way he constructs sentences is different than normal people. It's like whatever idea pops in, he grabs onto it, and he continues. And, I mean, you've been talking in front of a camera to millions of people for decades. You probably know by now, like, the people that you listen to are the ones. You cannot predict the next word they're gonna say. For better, for worse.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right, Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can't predict how he's gonna finish the sentence.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, God, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

It could start on Ukraine, and then he's like, I had the best falafel. You know, the thing about falafel is there's a place in New York, Memoons. We bought that building. It was a great building. Like, it's just.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I'm. I'm locked in.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, you're. You're riveted.

[Andrew Schulz]

The train is gone.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. But he will get back to Ukraine at the end.

[Andrew Schulz]

He'll get back.

[Megyn Kelly]

Back to Ukraine, to his credit, because that's, that's the place where most of us fall apart. You know, you lost your train of thought. You're off meandering down a tributary and you never get back on the main river. Trump always does. All right, stand by. We're gonna, we're gonna take a little tributary now. We'll be back on the main river with Andrew Schultz, whose new special Life is on Netflix right now. Go download it, do yourself a favor and we'll be right back with Andrew. I'm Cyndi Lauper with fellow Kyntyx advocate chef Michelle Bernstein. We'll share our experiences with plaque psoriasis

[Advertisement Voice]

with psoriatic arthritis, and Dr. Panico will

[Megyn Kelly]

talk about the possible connection.

[Advertisement Voice]

Cosentic Secukinumab is prescribed for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. 300 milligram dose and adults with active psoriatic arthritis, 150 milligrams dose. Don't use if you're allergic to Cosentyx. Before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. An increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. Like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal or viral infections. Some are fatal. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough had a vaccine or plan to or if inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen serious allergic reactions and severe eczema like skin reactions may occur. Learn more at 1-844-cosentyx or cosentyx.com Cindy

everyone's talking about protein lately, but how do you actually get enough of it? Muscle Muscle Milk Muscle Milk has a great tasting new formula with no artificial sweeteners, flavors or added colors. It's high quality complete protein designed to support healthy muscles with fewer ingredients than the previous formula and 2642 grams of protein for when you're stuck in meetings or need a post workout recovery. Available in chocolate, vanilla, cream, cookies and cream and strawberries and cream. Try the new great tasting Muscle Milk today available in stores nationwide. Muscle Milk Protein for all.

[Andrew Schulz]

When your wife first gets pregnant, you have to go get a baby. Specific doctor called it obgyn, right? Which I didn't know what the fuck that was. I thought it was more gay letters. I was like, my wife's like we need OB gyn. I was like, why do we need a gay guy to deliver the baby? What do they know about this? It's not their jurisdiction at all. I want some gay doctor to open my wife's legs like you. Yucky vag cross.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's amazing. I Have to say there are a lot of women who do it, but I have never had a male obgyn.

[Advertisement Voice]

No.

[Megyn Kelly]

And I never want one.

[Andrew Schulz]

My wife's dad is an obgyn.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I'm like, who's going to that?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't know. Some women are totally fine with it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

He's not looking at you as, as,

[Andrew Schulz]

like, not at all individual. No. But I also, as, like, a man. I don't know why you want to see because, like, aren't you kind of seeing women, like, when it's at its roughest?

[Megyn Kelly]

I, I. They don't see it that way. Like, I think they're able to distinguish between the moment they're with that personally versus professionally.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, of course. Of course. I'm just saying, like, if you're going to the OB gyn, isn't it, like, something's burning down here? Right. Like, don't you see it? If it's bumpy or burning? And now you're just seeing, like, vaginas that are messed up.

[Megyn Kelly]

You know, you got to go for your annual exam.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's checkups.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, they do the full. The full checkup.

[Andrew Schulz]

Pap smear.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right, that. Yeah. And, you know, they can get on it up in there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Megyn Kelly]

No. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is a Pap smear?

[Megyn Kelly]

It's very unpleasant. They put, like, this, like, clamp thing in you, and then they take, like, this long Q tip and they rub the cervix and then put those, like, cells on a petri dish and. And sent it. Send it out to go see if you. You have, like, early cancer.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, so it's to see if you have cancer?

[Megyn Kelly]

I. I mean, among other things, I'm sure. But yeah, that's what I think it's for. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And you guys have to do that every year?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Well, I mean, that's. Most of us go once a year.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow.

[Megyn Kelly]

Now you can potentially go once every three years, depending on, like, your health and whether you've had this HPV vaccine that's very controversial. We did a whole show on it. But in any event. Yeah, it's not pleasant. It's not pleasant. Even when you have a female doctor.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And they check everywhere.

[Andrew Schulz]

I've never seen a doctor in my entire life.

[Megyn Kelly]

What?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think we go to that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, no, it doesn't. Your normal doctor, though, handle you and make you cough and check for prostate issues.

[Andrew Schulz]

But how funny is that? Like, just, like, the vagina has its own doctor. And then I could just go to, like, a nerd. Like, anybody with a. Like the stethoscope and get my balls checked.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, you're a lucky man, because I'm sure if you had a problem down there, they would send you to a urologist, and then you grab you like a ketchup bottle, and you'd be uncomfortable,

[Andrew Schulz]

but, yeah, I guess. Yeah. My problem is, I guess, internal, but, yeah, that's. Yeah. Wow.

[Megyn Kelly]

I know. The whole thing with the doctors is, like, very intimate. They. They get right up in your space, and, like, there's no way around it. As a woman, you. You know, you have to let them check your lady parts. And then you get to the age where I am, and you got to go for the mammograms, and they grab your boob and they squeeze it down like a pancake. It hurts.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And it's like they're squeezing it, and then the woman's running out of the room to X ray you, and you're like, why am I stuck in here with. With all the radiation?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And they're telling you have to do it once a year. I don't know if I believe in it anymore. I mean, you do. Don't listen to me. I don't go to your. For your mammograms. I'm just saying, like, now I've had to start going, I think, at 40 or 45, and do it for 10 years.

[Andrew Schulz]

You have your. Do you have a breast cancer in your family?

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, my nana had it when she was 81, which I don't think technically counts, but. But it doesn't matter because most of breast cancers come in families where you didn't have a family history anyway.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. So you have to worry about it no matter what. What. It's just one of those things you hate. You hate the annual physical for this reason. Right. You just start. Got to start thinking about all the things you don't want to think about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. It just makes you face your morbid mortality. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're still young, so I don't. You're. Do you get an annual physical?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even know. Like, eventually my wife just.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

She'll just say things to me, like, it's been two years since you've been to the dentist. And I was like, all right, I'll go to the dentist. Like, I. I don't keep it up with any of these things. It's bad.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, good dental health is very important.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah. They say that.

[Megyn Kelly]

And the longer you wait on that. That one, the worse it is.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you have Your teeth. Right. These are your real teeth. It's so refreshing to see real teeth.

[Megyn Kelly]

Thank you. Don't you think the veneers are blinding?

[Andrew Schulz]

It's too much. The veneers. Like, you kind of almost like you need to go down a shade.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Or like stain them slightly.

[Megyn Kelly]

Do something. Yeah, I'm not good at detecting them. I actually just found out that most people are wearing veneers who have that, like those thousand watt smiles.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

I didn't totally know that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Now it's become so popular that I think it's actually going to have the reverse effect.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, it's going to be like the Kim Kardashian butt where people start rebelling.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I think we're going to want to see natural teeth.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, okay. Here's a. Here is a transition for me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, good. Tell me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Speaking of the Kim Kardashian butt.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Her ex, Kanye West.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Has a different wife now, Bianca. They may or may not be getting a divorce. There have been rumors and reports that they are, but unconfirmed. But before Kim, I think, and before Bianca, there was Amber Rose.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. Amber.

[Megyn Kelly]

Who wound up speaking at Trump's rnc.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. And she gave an interview on Club Sh. Shay with Shannon Sharp. And she spoke to why Kanye likes apparently having his wives be naked in public, like, a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

What did. What did she say? Take a look, honey.

[Megyn Kelly]

Is for sure dropsy car like that. Yeah. He did the same thing to me and Kim. This is who.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is it about that that he

[Bill Maher]

wants the world to know? Look at my woman.

[Andrew Schulz]

We can see.

[Megyn Kelly]

He wants other men to want his woman. That's what he's into. He likes that. He likes that men are, like, drooling over his woman. That's what he's into. Yeah. He wants all his friends to want his girlfriend. He wants everybody that when you walk in a room that his girlfriend or wife is the most desirable in the room.

[Andrew Schulz]

She the baddest bee in the room.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's what he likes. Yeah. And she said, he did it to me, he did it to Kim, and he's doing it to Bianca. What do you make of that? Like, that seems so odd to me, to want everybody to admire your woman so much you want her to go out naked in public.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. It makes me question, like, if he really likes her or if she's just a tool for his own validation.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right. To get attention.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's. Kanye's a. I'm just like, exhausted by it, to be honest. Like, he's so exhausting but he's so good at getting attention.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I'll just be so annoyed by him, and then he'll, like, tweet a couple things and I'll be like, holy.

[Megyn Kelly]

You see all the porn? He tweeted super bowl weekend. Oh, my God. So all my. All my friends were texting me, like, don't go on Kanye's X feed.

[Andrew Schulz]

Which, of course, you got to do it.

[Megyn Kelly]

You go immediately, like, what's he doing?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And I could not believe my eyes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, he's actually posting porn. Porn?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't think it was him. Yeah, it was a black man and a white woman in the videos without the faces in most of them. So I. Not sure. Yeah. But it was very graphic triple X porn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

All over his X feed.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

And I was like, oh, my God. Right? So then I logged off of that, and it wasn't until a couple hours later that I remembered to mention it to Doug. I'm like, yeah. So he went back. It was still up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Like, it. It hadn't been taken down.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's not surprising me because, like, there's a moment, like, the super bowl where. Where he knows that everybody's attention is going to be on somebody else.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh.

[Andrew Schulz]

So he's like, I'm going to make this about me.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I think it's a constant, like, thirst and need for attention. I don't even know if he's aware of that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Do you think the Hitler comments are coming from the same place?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's the same thing as Maga. Like, when Maga was that radioactive, he was like, I'm going to wear the MAGA hat.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's interesting.

[Andrew Schulz]

He takes the most disliked radioactive up thing, and he's like, I'm sorry. So cool that I can make this cool. And he's done that, like, throughout his life with fashion. And, you know, now he does it with, like, talking points and that kind of stuff. But it's. I think it's just a reflection of, like, him thinking I'm so the man. I could make Hitler the man. Or it's coming from this place of you're not going to tell me what I can or can't. Like.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I have total autonomy and freedom in

[Megyn Kelly]

life that I respect and, like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

That I like.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's just there's other ways to prove you're free, right?

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, there are a lot of people like that in the public, you know, conversation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I would also go like, are you really free if you need to do that?

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because now you're being controlled. The opposite.

[Megyn Kelly]

What if you always have to do the most subversive thing, the most controversial thing?

[Andrew Schulz]

People that are truly free don't need that.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

They feel the freedom, so they don't need to execute it every second. And people who don't feel free need to constantly prove that they're free.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's back to the old, you know. Michael Jordan didn't tell you what a great basketball player he was.

[Andrew Schulz]

He knew he was.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, he knew he was. It's simple.

[Megyn Kelly]

I was actually with somebody from another sport, which I won't. I won't reveal who it was because it would make it obvious, but they were like, I'm the goat. Everyone knows I'm the goat. And I remember thinking, I don't think the goat ever calls himself the goat. No, it's not a thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Megyn Kelly]

So you've got this very successful podcast now, in addition to your comedy routines. Do you, like. What do you do on that show? Is there. Are there any limits? Is there anything you do to make it a success? Somebody was just asking me this about my show, and I was like, that's not how I approach it. I just kind of do what I. I just talk about what I want to talk about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I talk about what I want to talk about. And then, like, I try very hard to not let the algorithm dictate what we talk about.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I feel like a lot of times now, there's a lot of creators that don't even realize that that algorithm is really dictating to them what they should create. They'll post a video or cover a topic, and it will go crazy, crazy. And then they go, oh, I should cover that more. And then you see people, like, lose their own personal creativity, and they just become this slave to the algorithm.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

The problem is that when you're going to do the stories you want to do, you have to accept that some days the stories are going to go crazy, and some days they're not going to go crazy, and your core fans will really appreciate it, but it's not going to be this pure numbers game. And that's been the. The thing that, like, you know, we've. We've. We accept because authenticity is, like, the most important thing to me. But it is one of those things that you got to go, okay, well, okay, this isn't going to be as big a story. We get that. How can we be so interesting or so funny about it that maybe more people will find interest in this thing? That we're really interested in.

[Megyn Kelly]

I really think that that is fool's gold, right? Just to go for the viral clip because it's. It's like you might get a lot of subscribers or follows or whatever, or even just views or likes of that one. One clip, but they're not real.

[Andrew Schulz]

I. I'm so glad you keep going. This is great.

[Megyn Kelly]

They're not going to stay. Like, that's why you see people who have a huge number of subscribers on. On YouTube but very little engagement, because their fans are not actually, like, they just click to watch that one clip, but then they're. They're never coming back. Whereas if you just work on doing good programming every day, they're real. The relationship between you and the people watching is real. They trust you and honor you and vice versa.

[Andrew Schulz]

Trust you. They're here. And if you really care about somebody, something. There are people watching right now that might not care about it at all. And the fact that you do, they'll give it that little second, they'll give it that minute, and they'll be like, okay, maybe I should care about this thing, right? I. Yeah, I see this. I see this all the time. It's like. And this is kind of like where you can see the grift a little bit, where there, there are people that sometimes are popular because there's great social utility, right? Like, there's a version where, like, this special has social utility. And I might get popular with some

[Megyn Kelly]

people because they're called Life on Netflix. Check it out with Andrew Schultz.

[Andrew Schulz]

I wasn't even trying to plug, but, like, maybe they're going through, like, IVF or fertility issues and they feel, like, really seen or represented. But. So maybe for like, a moment, I'm very important to them. But then when that becomes more nor normalized, less stigmatized, they realize they don't really agree with me on other issues. So they're like, okay, I don't need you anymore. It's kind of like not to harp on Shapiro, like, kind of what he's gone through. It's like he had these great arguments for conservatives at a time where it was like, really radioactive to be conservative. Right? It's like there are these people that they, like, needed to defend their position. But, you know, they. They didn't have these. They didn't have, like the. These, like, beautiful Harvard. Like this, like, no fat at all, awesome dart arguments, which he's, like, really brilliant at making.

[Megyn Kelly]

Totally.

[Andrew Schulz]

And he supplied them. And they were like, oh, this is the guy. Now it's not stigmatized at all to be a conservative. The majority of the country is conservative. So now they're like, all right, well, we don't really agree with you on Israel, Palestine, so we don't really need you anymore. You don't have social media utility. He didn't build that bond with the audience.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, his show is still huge and very, very successful.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I'm not. Again, again, I'm saying, like, I'm not saying that he's not, but clearly there's been some issues over there in terms like a fracturing of the audience. And the fracture of the audience, to me, shows that they're not actual fans of him, but that there was social utility that he provided. And then a quarter of them or 10, 20, whatever, is now going, well, now I no longer need that social utility. But it's not just him. I'm saying it could be.

[Megyn Kelly]

It can happen to anybody.

[Andrew Schulz]

And. And what you hope is you have this core, which he is his core. You have your core. I hope I have my core, that that will continue to expand when you create authentic shit that matters to you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, here's to doing that, a lot more of that. And if you want to see Andrew do that, seriously, trust me, check out Life on Netflix. For many reasons, we want to support him. You will laugh your ass off. And there is no way we can let Meghan Markle be number one. It has to be Andrew Schultz. So you get on there and you download it over and over. My friends, please watch it.

[Andrew Schulz]

We're coming for Kate Hudson. Okay.

[Megyn Kelly]

Great to see you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Great to see you. Thank you for having me.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm Cyndi Lauper with fellow KS advocate chef Michelle Bernstein. We'll share our experiences with plaque psoriasis

[Advertisement Voice]

with psoriatic arthritis, and Dr. Panico will talk about the possible connections.

Cosentix Secukinumab is prescribed for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, 300mg dose. And adults with active psoriatic arthritis, 150mg dose. Don't use if you're allergic to Cosentyx before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. An increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. Like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal or viral infections. Some are fatal. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough, had a vaccine or planned to, or if inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, serious allergic reactions and severe eczema like skin reactions may occur. Learn more at 1-844-cosentix or cosentyx.com Cindy

everyone's talking about protein lately, but how do you actually get enough of it? Muscle Milk Muscle Milk has a great tasting new formula with no artificial sweeteners, flavors or added colors. It's high quality complete protein designed to support healthy muscles with fewer ingredients than the previous formula and 26 to 42 grams of protein for when you're stuck in meetings or need a post workout recovery. Available in chocolate, vanilla, cream, cookies and cream and strawberries and cream. Try the new great tasting Muscle Milk today. Available in stores nationwide. Muscle Milk Protein for All

[Megyn Kelly]

Joining me now is someone I've been wanting to interview on this program for years. He is one of the sharpest political commentators around, someone who's not afraid to take risks and has been politically incorrect for decades before it was cool. And whether you love him or hate him, you pay attention to him. Joining me today is Bill Maher. He's author of the brand new book that's just out today. What this comedian said will shock you. He's also host of the long running show Real Time Time with Bill Maher on HBO. Don't miss a moment. Subscribe to this show on YouTube and follow me on insta, Facebook and X Can your savings weather an economic storm? Think about what you've put away for the future. Inflation can render cash worthless. Real estate can crash like it did in 08. Economies built on a mountain of debt can fall like a house of cards. There are very few physical assets you can invest in that can stand the test of the of time. But gold has withstood as a valued form of money. It's why many people are flocking to it now, and why Birchgold is busier than ever through a little known tax loophole. Birch Gold lets you convert a retirement account into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. And the best part? It doesn't cost you $0.01 out of pocket. To learn more, text MK to 989898 and claim your free info kit on Gold. Again, can your IRA or 401k weather an economic storm? If not, consider looking into Birch gold. Just text MK to 989-898 and explore securing your savings today. Bill, welcome.

[Bill Maher]

I must say that book title is a lot funnier when you see it because it's supposed to mock clickbait.

[Megyn Kelly]

Of course I got it.

[Bill Maher]

Okay, I know. But I've had book titles that went right over the heads of this is

[Megyn Kelly]

the tease we used on Fox News for about two decades without the words comedian, what you hear next will shock you.

[Bill Maher]

Right, Exactly. I thought I would bring it to the book world.

[Megyn Kelly]

No. I used to joke that once you start talking in teases, you've been in TV too long.

[Bill Maher]

Right. But I had a new rules book out about 15 years ago, and the subtitle was Polite Musings from a Timid observer, which I thought was hysterically funny, but every disc jockey in America did not get it. They just took it. It's like, okay, no, that was understatement. And it's supposed to be said, but never mind. I'll just. I'll just do a straight title next time.

[Megyn Kelly]

So my favorite New Rules ever comes from about. I want to say about 15 years ago, and it was from the book. When did that book hit?

[Bill Maher]

There was one out in 2005, and I think 2010. Of course, those are, you know, new rules books. I call them toilet books because they're. You can read them on the toilet. You know, New Rules are very different than this book. This book is from the editorials. Now. I really redid all of them. I mean, I worked like, I could never have done the this without the strike. The strike that we had last year gave me the time to do this. But these, this is much more of a real book. The new rules books were fun, but New Rules are short. They're punchy, they can be about anything. They're not always serious. It's just they're very random. And, you know, again, you can pick it up on the toilet and read three or four of them, and that's that. This is a real book. Not that the other ones weren't real books, but I.

[Megyn Kelly]

What was I lured into in my previous purchase? Jesus.

[Bill Maher]

No, they were fun. But I feel like this one I'm more proud of than any book I ever did. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

So speaking of the toilet, my favorite new rule was New rule. Stop giving tickets to blind people for not picking up after their dogs. You see, they would, but they can't see shit.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, right. That was the new Rules book. They're funny and punchy, but this one I think people should treat like the Bible. I think they should put it by their nightstand and read passages each night. Think it'll help you through your life?

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, in part, it's a diagnosis of what's going on with us right now. And in part, to me, it picks up on something you said to me shortly before I came on your show after my own cancellation at NBC. And you said, you seem to me privately, you said, you seem to me kind of like me right now, which is somebody without a political home. And I felt that way, and I still feel that way. I mean, I've been a registered independent forever, but I know exactly what you're saying. Just the world. World's lost its mind. And I certainly would never put on somebody's team jersey anymore.

[Bill Maher]

Right. Without a team. Right. And you know what? I like it that way because I don't want to be a part of a team. I mean, I would say I caucus with the Democrats more. I definitely think the right wing is much more dangerous. They don't believe in democracy anymore, and they threw their lot in with a sociopath named Donald Trump. So, you know, don't. No, he's not.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, no. I just like it. I want to talk about your feelings on Trump.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, well, there you go.

[Megyn Kelly]

But this is how. So you and I are very similar. I feel like you're kind of a four and I'm a six. On the ideological scale, we have a lot of overlap, but you're definitely still going to vote Democrat, and I'm definitely going to vote Republican. But there's enough commonality to make us shake our heads yes when the other one speaks a lot.

[Bill Maher]

So you're going to vote for Trump?

[Megyn Kelly]

I am going to vote for Trump, yeah.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. I mean, I can't even understand that. And I understand that Biden is deeply flawed, but he does believe in our way of life. And, you know, I mean, I was the one who was saying from the very beginning, when everyone was laughing at me, that Donald Trump will never give up power. And he didn't. He still hasn't conceded the last election. I don't know what could possibly be more fundamental to you or anyone. Then you have to concede elections. And he hasn't conceded the last one. He's plainly not going to concede this one. He now has all of his sycophants around him parroting his party line, which is when they asked them, will you abide by the election results? Yes, if it's a free and fair election. Which is another way of saying, if we win, you really think this is a place this country should be?

[Andrew Schulz]

Mm.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm not gonna defend the election denialism. I'm not one of those people who.

[Bill Maher]

But what's more important, what kind of country do we have?

[Megyn Kelly]

How about my daughter not going into a locker room and seeing a man's penis?

[Bill Maher]

That's important, too. And I bring.

[Megyn Kelly]

How about young men on college campuses getting due process when they get accused Falling falsely of rape.

[Bill Maher]

Well, yeah, I think that's a false equivalency. I think these things are bullshit.

[Megyn Kelly]

What do you mean?

[Bill Maher]

I think these things are important, but you can handle these things through the normal due process of our system. But if we lose the system itself. Come on.

[Megyn Kelly]

But we didn't.

[Bill Maher]

We didn't.

[Megyn Kelly]

So far he tried it, it failed.

[Bill Maher]

Right. And now he's had four years to put in place people who will make it work again. I don't know if there'll be a John Raffsenberger in George. A noble Republican who stood up to him. He thought last time that he could count on someone being just a Republican to do his bidding. And what he found out was that there are a lot of decent people who are Republicans, which is something I'm trying to tell the Democrats all the time. You can't hate, you can hate Trump, you can't hate everybody who likes him and you certainly can't hate half the country. And Republicans is not a byword for bad people. And a lot of them stood up. I mean even ones who I don't like very much. Much. Mitt Romney, McConnell, obviously. Liz Cheney, Chris Christie, there were Mike Pence. These are what I call as good as it gets Republicans for the people who don't like Republicans. They full throatedly said Trump lost that election. No two ways about it. McConnell said it wasn't even a particularly close election.

[Megyn Kelly]

People said it. A lot of people said and, but look, I agree with you that the majority of the Republican Party doesn't believe that. But I do think there's a difference between. It was stolen, you know the, the nonsense with Dominion voting machines and all that versus it wasn't fair.

[Bill Maher]

And what wasn't fair? The election.

[Megyn Kelly]

Don't get me started. What wasn't fair? Okay, well the election, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laugh tax story. Just, just for one.

[Bill Maher]

Oh for fuck's sake. Really? Oh, then, then you're, then we're not as alike as you think. That's a stupid non story. I mean. Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Who. There are polls that show some 10 to 12% of the electorate says they would have changed their mind had they seen it, had they known about wasn't

[Bill Maher]

right to suppress it. But nobody gives a fuck about Hunter Biden's dick.

[Megyn Kelly]

Nobody. You're talking about yourself. I'm telling you there, there are data to show people did care there. They, they said they.

[Bill Maher]

Nobody. Nobody who was going to vote for Trump anyway or Biden anyway.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean it wasn't about Hunter Biden's. Man parts. It was about the scandal of his corruption and his dad's corruption. Bill. I used to think that, that Hunter Biden was a hot mess and Joe Biden was embarrassed by him but had to deal. Now I really think he was doing Joe Biden's bidding. Joe Biden is the bad guy who sent his drug addled son out of there to collect money. That's what the laptop shows.

[Bill Maher]

And that's more important than what I was bringing up about not abiding by election results, not respecting what always made this country great, the peaceful transference of power.

[Megyn Kelly]

See, I don't disagree with you on that. You're not gonna get me to say it was a great thing the way Trump behaved.

[Bill Maher]

I don't have to get you to agree or disagree. You're obviously someone who looks at an elephant and a mouse and cannot tell which one is bigger.

[Megyn Kelly]

I disagree. I think that's projection by you because I look at, I mean, that's how

[Bill Maher]

I, that's how I see you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, let's go.

[Bill Maher]

Why are you telling me this? I mean, this is such, this is just typical right wing talking points. The evil Hunter Biden and the evil Joe Biden. And do I, do I like them? No, I don't particularly like that. I think they're very flawed. It's not nearly.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're misstating my argument. You're misstating my argument that Hunter Biden just now on the laptop was brought up as evidence of how the election went, was not fair. He's not a reason necessarily to not vote for Joe Biden. The reason not to vote for Joe Biden is his policies. You're not woke. He's as woke. At least his policies are as they come. The open border bill. How could, how could anybody vote for somebody who keeps this border open with the number of rapes and the number of murders and the numbers of crimes going on with these immigrants.

[Bill Maher]

But again, these are the normal sorts of issues we've always had in this country that should be taken care of through the normal process we've had. You're talking, talking about the difference between some. This, I'm talking about the difference between this and something fundamental, which is our democracy. The fact that you have to respect who wins an election or else you don't have the kind of country we've always had before. How about, I mean, I feel like we keep going around the Rosemary Bush about this and we're not gonna make any progress, so let's stop talking about it. But you know I just, I mean,

[Megyn Kelly]

you keep saying sort of I nuts because I don't see the difference between the elephant and the mouse. And I'm telling you, I identify them differently than you do. Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier. I'm sure you voted for her in 16.

[Bill Maher]

Well, she's not an election denier.

[Megyn Kelly]

Absolutely was the OG election denier.

[Bill Maher]

She, first of all, she came out before the sun had risen to concede the election to Trump and then spent

[Megyn Kelly]

the next four years saying he was illegitimate. He was an illegitimate president.

[Bill Maher]

She. Okay, well, first of all, saying she didn't say he was an illegit.

[Megyn Kelly]

She did.

[Bill Maher]

You tell me exactly what she said.

[Megyn Kelly]

She said those exact words repeatedly.

[Bill Maher]

Okay. I mean, she conceded the election. Whether, whether you're interpreting her disappointment at losing it as the same thing as Trump not conceding it, I don't know that that's where you're getting it from. But again, it's a tremendous false equivalent equivalency. You could ask Hillary Clinton right now who won that election. She will tell you, Donald Trump won the election.

[Megyn Kelly]

Now, she knows she has to because of what Trump has done.

[Bill Maher]

She came out that night, she conceded the election suit and conceded the election.

[Megyn Kelly]

Correct. And then spent the next four years trying to convince us it was not legitimate. Just saying, look, it's not the same as Trump. What Trump did was far more severe. I'm not going to deny that. But don't try to tell me that Hillary Clinton wasn't an election denier. And Jamie Robert Raskin and a whole host of Democrats who are now in prominent positions on Capitol Hill doesn't make it great what Trump did, but they don't have clean hands either. But you, you bypass the immigration question. I mean, like that.

[Bill Maher]

I'm not bypassing it. I think it's a disaster. I think, I think, how would you

[Megyn Kelly]

put this guy back in there for four more years to leave the doors

[Bill Maher]

open and like, it was so much better under Trump.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes, it was better under Trump. Are you kidding me?

[Bill Maher]

It was somewhat better.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, Bill.

[Bill Maher]

It was somewhat better.

[Megyn Kelly]

Go look up the immigration rates. Illegal immigration rates for 2020, for 19 to 20.

[Bill Maher]

I'm not defending Biden on immigration. I don't understand why it's so difficult in this country to stop people coming through the border. I don't. And I watched that 60 Minutes piece they did on it a couple of months ago, and they had films of people coming through this hole and the Border Patrol just watching them and basically waving. I don't Understand why. I don't understand why this country can't accomplish something like that. It doesn't seem like it's impossible, but so many things in this, that's what's so aggravating.

[Megyn Kelly]

We can accomplish it. We can, we can stop what's happening at the southern border. We just won't under Joe Biden. And he keeps pretending like he has no agency on it. But he does have agency. There are a lot of executive orders he could do just like Trump did. He won't. And you know why? It's because of the people who use the word Latinx who are trying to lecture him that it's not humane to enforce our borders.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, I would agree with that. The left wing, because they're so afraid always of being called racist. They let that color every issue and very often wind up with terrible policies that wind up not helping people.

[Megyn Kelly]

Don't you think that's what's happening to him on the trans issue too? Which is my big issue.

[Bill Maher]

I think what Joe Biden is, is a guy who does not want to fight with the left wing of his party. He sees that as. I don't think he understands a lot of what's going on in the left wing. I mean, I doubt if he heard the word trans before he was president. But that's what he has chosen to do. He does not want to fight with aoc. He thinks that's where the energy in the party is. And he's not completely wrong. So he just kind of goes along with that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's one thing that's not great about him. But again, in this country, maybe gender is non binary, but politics is, is. You only get two choices.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right.

[Bill Maher]

You get Donald Trump, a criminal election denier who is going to transform this country into an authoritarian place like we've never seen before. Or you get Joe Biden with all his flaws, also a criminal. Okay, what, what is his crime again?

[Megyn Kelly]

Special counsel Robert Hurst said he'd committed felonies, but he wouldn't indict him because he was a well meaning elderly man with a poor, poor memory. He couldn't get a conviction in front of a jury.

[Bill Maher]

And, and what was that crime?

[Megyn Kelly]

That was the classified documents all over his basement, his garage, everywhere.

[Bill Maher]

Well, okay, again, a false equivalency. They both had classified documents. Here's the difference. Immediately Biden, he shouldn't have had them immediately he said, oh, sorry, my bad, and gave them back.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's why he didn't get charged with obstruction. But Trump has two classified documents. A piece is to his case. One is you had them, and the second is you obstructed justice when we demanded them back. So, okay, against Biden, you don't get charged with obstruction. But number one, where's the, where's the classified documents charge against him? He's also a felon.

[Bill Maher]

You got your story. You know, I. Look, if you see it that way, that's, that's, that's what I have to deal with.

[Megyn Kelly]

You're asking me why I see it differently than you do. The contest between two of them, and

[Bill Maher]

I'm telling you, is that convincing.

[Megyn Kelly]

Fair enough.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, they both should not have had classified documents. One by the toilet, one by his Corvette. Okay, One. One.

[Megyn Kelly]

Multiple. Many.

[Bill Maher]

No, I'm talking about one person. Okay, one of them.

[Megyn Kelly]

Okay, a copy. Right.

[Bill Maher]

One Trump, one Biden. They both did that. The difference is Goofus and Gallant. Goofus said, anything I touch is mine forever. Go fish. And the other one said, oh, yeah, my bad, and I'll immediately return them.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's very funny. You're taking me back to my childhood with that reference. But that, why can't the difference be one actually had the ability to declassify documents and keep them because he'd been the president and one didn't because he should have been looking at documents only in a skiff while a sitting US Senator. And clearly he stole classified documents that he wasn't entitled and never had the ability to declassify them.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, maybe you know more about that than I do. I don't remember that part of it. And I, I always don't trust anything I hear until I vet it from the other side. Because everybody sort of has their one sided view of it. And narrative is more important than truth. I know this is the right wing narrative.

[Megyn Kelly]

I thought, I'm not like that, Bill. I care about facts. I practiced law for 10 years. I want to get the cases right more than. And I want to get clicks. And I have a lot of lefties who watch me, so I'm not like that. All I can tell you is those are the facts. And Joe Biden also has behaved in a grossly, grossly extra constitutional manner. Not only the nonsense of trying to skirt the Supreme Court on the eviction moratoriums and the student loan quote, debt forgiveness, which he's bragging about skirting them on, but the four indictments, which obviously the White House was behind and promoted and wanted. Four indictments of a former sitting president, which we've made it almost 250 years without doing. If that's not extra legal and weirdly non normie, I don't know what is.

[Bill Maher]

What are the four indictments we're talking about now?

[Megyn Kelly]

The two federal indictments against Trump and the one in New York and the one in Georgia.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, you're talking about the Trump indictments.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, I'm saying this administration 100% was behind at least those two federal ones. And there's evidence they were behind the other two, or at least in coordination,

[Bill Maher]

though they deny it, they were behind them. It wasn't Trump committing those crimes.

[Megyn Kelly]

Do you really think, you don't think that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton could have been indicted for what they did when he left office with all the furniture?

[Bill Maher]

I don't remember.

[Megyn Kelly]

If somebody kicked the tires of the Clinton initiative, the foundation, you don't think they could find something?

[Bill Maher]

I think they did kick those tires a lot. I'm not sure what they found, but I don't think it was much. I don't remember Bill Clinton ever calling

[Megyn Kelly]

up Hillary Clinton could have been indicted. Post her.

[Bill Maher]

As I was saying, I don't remember Bill Clinton calling up a Secretary of State and saying, I need you to find me 11,000 votes. You don't find that to be a bit of a smoking gun?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't. Here's why. Because I've listened to the whole phone call.

[Bill Maher]

I have, too.

[Megyn Kelly]

And what he's saying is I'm only behind by some hundred thousand, whatever the number was he said. So I want a recount. And what I, I want you to start counting. And all I need is this number. So basically, once you get to that number, you can stop counting. Look, I, I don't want to have to defend, defend Trump on his denialism about the election, because I'm more on your team on that. But I understand why it's not a smoking gun, as you just put it.

[Bill Maher]

Okay. Well, you know, people see things differently that they do. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

So this is why you feel like a man without a party, because your team feels like you do on the Trump stuff. They hate Trump, but they're not with you when it comes to your anti wokeism. So what is, where does that leave you? Who do you go out to dinner with?

[Bill Maher]

Lots of people. I mean, I feel like more people than ever are on Team Me, whatever that is, because, you know, they're the normies and the, the middle who don't want to be ideologically captured by either side. That's who I feel like. I speak for people who are not afraid to call out their own team. If you have a team or a team that you are more on the side of when they do stuff, that's goofy. And I think they appreciate it a lot. I mean, I notice in my standup shows, you know, the audience is kind of half and half, and. And the liberals will laugh at woke nonsense and the conservatives will laugh at Trump jokes. Most people in this country, I think, understand that there are deep defects on both sides.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah.

[Bill Maher]

And they just want the extremists who seem to have the megaphone on either side to go away or stop being so powerful. You know, everybody is like, why can't we just be, you know, common sense and why can't we just, you know, be the people in the middle? But at the end of the day, no one sort of stands up for that because it's just so easier to pander to the people who are a team, because those are the people who wind up scaring the other people. I mean, certainly on the left, that happens. I've said it many times. The problem with wokeness is nobody ever gets canceled for being too woke. That's how you wind up. Up with men can get pregnant because you can say the most ridiculous thing and because no one wants to be the one who's called out on Twitter, they'll be like, oh, sure, men pregnant. I've always said that. I saw a dude who was glowing today. You know, it's just so ridiculous what you can get away with saying. And just the intimidation factor. And certainly on the right, that happens happens, too.

[Megyn Kelly]

So you don't. You don't seem like someone who's ever felt that. Have you. Have you managed to escape ever afraid of blowback from your. Your own side?

[Bill Maher]

Well, I. I've. I mean, come on, I've been on 31 years. It comes with the territory. Every week, when people say to me on Saturday, how'd the show go last night? I'd say, if I'm not canceled today, it went great. You know, I mean, they're always looking to take you down, and the knives were always out. But, you know, I feel like at this point, after 31 years, if they wind up getting me, okay, I had a pretty good run.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right.

[Bill Maher]

And also, I think there's just a lot of people who have my back and they appreciate what I do, and they appreciate me having that bond with my audience that I don't pull a punch and I never will. And it's made me, you know, lose some audience. That's true. I say it in the introduction to the book, I say, I have lost some people and I don't miss them. Those are the more woke people who think I'm somehow betrayed them. And I didn't. One reason I wrote this book was by going through all the old editorials over the whole span of the show. I wanted to see have I changed or has my politics changed? And I really think it's not mostly me. I mean, the left was very different. Now, of course, the right got worse, way worse. Also, we won't go back into they don't believe in democracy. We just had that discussion. But that certainly is way worse in my view. But the left, yes, went off the deep end also in their own way. And so what I always tell people who are Democrats and liberals is you don't have to lecture me about Donald Trump. I'm the one who, I think who was sounding the alarm bells before any. Anybody. But I also get why people vote for him. I absolutely do. Because the stuff that, for example, you just said penises in the swimming pool, and the stuff that is threatening to people, that comes from the left is so much more in their everyday life. It's not vague, like to most people, oh, what Trump and democracy? It's a vague thought. And Ukraine, that's very far away. Was it impeachable? Who knows? But I know about my kid coming home from school and saying, well, they're telling me, I can't tell you. Yeah, if I change my sex.

[Megyn Kelly]

Or saying, as we discussed on your show when I was a guest suggesting to your perfectly normal son that he might be a girl at my all boys, they kept asking them over and over, raise your hand, where are you on the scale of girl to boy, 10 through 5.

[Bill Maher]

I did an editorial only like three weeks ago, and I used the word entrapment. I mean, it was about comparing what goes on in the schools with entrapment. I don't think anybody had ever put it that way. But entrapment in the law, I'm sure you know this better than I do. Means suggesting someone into a crime.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Bill Maher]

Something they wouldn't have thought of to do anyway. I mean, I used the example of after 9 11, there were a number of cases where law enforcement basically entrapped people who were not really going to be terrorists. The one case I mentioned was the Liberty Seven. Seven guys in Liberty City, Miami, a poor section of Miami. And they basically went to them and said, you know, wouldn't it be cool if you blew up the Sears Tower in Chicago and taught the Man, a lesson. And these guys who didn't even have a gun, probably the only guys in the neighborhood who didn't have a gun, said, yeah, that would be pretty.

[Megyn Kelly]

Do this thing.

[Bill Maher]

That would be pretty cool. That's entrapment. And I was saying, look, when you constantly talk to little kids about sex and gender and constantly put out the idea that maybe the body you're in is not the correct one, aligning with what's in your mind, that's entrapment. That to me is the same thing. You're suggesting them into something they wouldn't have thought of anyway, because I promise you would. When I was a kid, it never crossed my mind. I never thought, huh, maybe I am a girl. I mean, I thought a lot of, you know, how could I learn how to talk to a girl? But even at that age, we didn't want to talk to a girl. We had not reached puberty yet.

[Megyn Kelly]

See, this is like, this is where it's just so frustrating to me because I looked at that Biden event where he had all the trans people out in front of the White House and like some trans. It's a guy with fake breasts showing his naked breasts on cam on the White House lawn. It was like National Trans Day of visibility, which is every day in America now, right? And they're. They're on the White House. It's like, would you have some dignity? Could there be some dignity and decorum? And I realized you could make the dignity argument over on the right, too. Trust me, I get it with Trump. But that's why I look at Biden. I'm like, how do we get stuck with this, right? Like, how. Why didn't the Democrats replace him? And why did the Republicans renominate Trump? I think it's. I think, I know. I think they thought he was the strongest candidate, the one who could sort of be the strongest leader and take, Take Biden down. But I look at Biden and I feel like the Democrats really could have made a switcheroo. I know he didn't want to give it up, but they could have made a switcheroo.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, my first show back after the strike ended, which was last September, the, the first editorial I did was called Ruth Bader Biden.

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't remember that.

[Bill Maher]

I was the one who coined that phrase. I was saying, if he continues on, if he doesn't get out of the race, he's going to be Ruth Bader Biden. He's going to be the person who hung around too long, destroyed his legacy and probably the country with it, but he's got to get out now because, you know, too long at the fair. We get it. Ruth Bader was a Ginsburg was a judge the liberals loved. And I'm sure she did some great things and was a pioneer, but her ego would not let her go away. And I mean, the story goes, Obama had her to lunch once, like, I think in 2013, and was kind of hinting around, hey, wouldn't it be great if you spent a little more time with the grandkids? What do you think, huh? And she didn't take the hint and thought she'd live forever, which was really crazy because she had been through a lot of really serious medical issues. And then, of course, it happened. And then of course, Mitch McConnell, who would not even give Merrick Garland a hearing, which was talk about unconstitutional, suddenly, of course, found it in his heart to push through Amy Coney Barrett immediately. So that's what you get for trusting the other side. Side. So I thought he should step down, but apparently that hasn't happened. I would hope the Democrats, some of them would think it's still not too late. You could do it before the convention. I mean, weirder things have happened in American politics, and I don't think anyone would bat an eye that it was out of the ordinary. So what? We don't care. America loves New. I've always suggested that to candidates. I said, said that about Chris Christie. He should have ran when he was popular in, what was it, 2012.

[Megyn Kelly]

And he said, it's just not my time. He was hugely popular.

[Bill Maher]

The longer you stay around, the worse you're going to do because they have more to get you. On Obama, they said the same thing. He's only been a senator a couple of years. And he went, good. You don't know that much about me. Great. America likes New.

[Megyn Kelly]

That was before Chris Christie, before Bridgegate, before Beach Gate. You know, all those pictures were just devastating to him. And then all the Trump lap doggery, which really kind of sunk him.

[Bill Maher]

And Trump came along. I mean, he could have been the

[Megyn Kelly]

guy, remember with Trump, he was like, I love him, I hate him, I love him, I hate him. And then, you know, when you're like, it's like. And Romney, too. And that was another start of, like, his breakup with the Republican Party where, you know, he was, like, blowing with the wind. But, yeah, no, I agree. It's not too late. If I were a Democrat, I'd be begging for them to sub in somebody else. Even Kamala might be better at this point, although I doubt it. I don't know, though, you know, everybody talks about Michelle Obama as the, as the big hope, and she doesn't want to do it.

[Bill Maher]

No, she, she's not, doesn't want to do it. And I don't blame her. And they already served.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, so what do you think's gonna happen?

[Bill Maher]

Well, I, I, I know one thing I can guarantee will happen is that Trump will say he won. Whether he won or lost, I agree with him. Well, that's not a good thing for America, is it? I think on January 20, 2025, he'll show up at the White House, whether he's invited or not. And I don't think that's going to be good.

[Megyn Kelly]

He's going to bomb in if he lost.

[Bill Maher]

Yes. Oh, yeah. Bomb is a word I wouldn't even throw around lightly.

[Megyn Kelly]

Stop it. He's not going to do that.

[Bill Maher]

Right. Like, there was never an attack on the Capitol.

[Megyn Kelly]

I hear you, I hear you. But he's back with never happen.

[Bill Maher]

They didn't show up at the Capitol and break windows and, and knock down doors and kill cops and chase.

[Megyn Kelly]

They didn't do that.

[Bill Maher]

And they didn't break windows. They of course did.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, they didn't.

[Bill Maher]

Who did? They died of natural causes that day.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, nobody died that day.

[Bill Maher]

Cops.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, not true.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who?

[Bill Maher]

Okay, who? Oh, I don't remember the names.

[Megyn Kelly]

They didn't. There was Brian Sick. Sicknick, who died later after the fact. And the coroner's report did not say it was because of what he had inhaled that day. He said it had possibly accelerated the condition that killed him.

[Bill Maher]

Okay, well. Attacked cops. I thought they were the law. I thought they were the law enforcement people. You know, how did we get to this place? I mean, Trump now says he's gonna pardon all those January 6th insurrectionists because who wants to live in a country with the people who try to overthrow the government? Government are seen as the bad guys. Huh?

[Megyn Kelly]

They weren't insurrectionist, Bill.

[Bill Maher]

They weren't a bunch of numb skulls. They chased. That's so stupid. They chased duly elected representatives out of the building and wanted to hang the vice president for certifying the election. That's not an insurrection.

[Megyn Kelly]

People who engaged in violent acts or actually made threats along those lines are all being prosecuted appropriately. And I've said repeatedly, I hope they get the book and they've had it.

[Bill Maher]

So that's not, that's not insurance.

[Megyn Kelly]

What about the entrapment that happened of the Muslims after 9 11? How about the entrapment that Happened to some of those J6 protesters.

[Bill Maher]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's go back to what I'm upset about with the Muslims that we Talked

[Megyn Kelly]

about after 911 and the feds getting involved, saying, don't you want. Yeah, so entrapment.

[Bill Maher]

They weren't Muslims. They were just guys.

[Megyn Kelly]

All right, well, my point is there are. I'm not going to. Again, you're making me defend things that I.

[Bill Maher]

Then you shouldn't in part that are horrible, but don't defend them. War. Why defend them?

[Megyn Kelly]

Because it's more nuanced than you're suggesting. They were not insurrectionists. There was never any possibility that they were. I've heard you refer to it as a. They attempted going to take over the government. It wasn't going to happen. It was a protest. They broke into the Capitol, they opened the doors and let them walk in. Security was waving one after the other.

[Bill Maher]

I could show you the footage of them knocking through the gates.

[Megyn Kelly]

I can show you the footage. Footage of many of them being welcomed. Welcomed in by cops. Bill, you see, that's a different. People make a distinction between those who truly behave badly and those who thought they were having a good time on cap in Statuary Hall.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, there were. There were some people who just came to meander and wander around. That's true. They just. They just. I've seen the documentary that Alexander Pelosi did on it. It's interesting because a lot of them were just like, oh yeah, it's an interesting place to go and let's see what happens. There's also footage of people and there were people who absolutely intended to stop that election. Absolutely. So I don't know what you would call that. Maybe you don't like that word insurrectionist. Because it got too. I know too. It's too anti Republican, but that's what it is.

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't agree with you. I don't think the legal definition of insurrection. They don't meet. And that's why it wasn't actually charged. It's, you know, it's a leftist dream to try to make it sound even worse than it was these left who didn't care at all when their people were out in the roads killing cops. Actually killing hurting cops, killing others, killing BLM protests, killing cops suddenly found their conscience when it happened on J6.

[Bill Maher]

Killing cops is always wrong. Doing it in the service of trying to overthrow the government of the United States is a little bit different. It didn't happen because we were lucky.

[Megyn Kelly]

It didn't happen.

[Bill Maher]

We were lucky. It didn't happen. They tried to make it happen. Attempting to commit a crime is bad. Trump tries to commit crimes all the time, like the this one. The fact that he doesn't succeed doesn't make it better. It makes it better for the country. Let's see what happens next time. But you know, we are not exactly like the detective and the serial killer. Oh, we're a lot more alike than you think. We're actually not that alike. I think.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think you're right. Yeah, I agree. We see a very, very different reality.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

Which is fine. I mean, that's.

[Bill Maher]

It is fine. We have to be able to talk and disagree and still be civil.

[Megyn Kelly]

I think we're doing a good job.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. We're doing as best we can.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right. I'm Cyndi Lauper with fellow Cosentix advocate chef Michelle Bernstein. We'll share our experiences with plaque psoriasis

[Advertisement Voice]

with psoriatic arthritis and Dr. Panico will talk about the possible connection.

Cosentic Secukinumab is prescribed for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. 300 milligram dose and adults with active psoriatic art arthritis. 150 milligrams dose. Don't use if you're allergic to Cosentyx before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. An increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. Like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal or viral infections, some are fatal. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough, had a vaccine or planned to, or if inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen serious allergic reactions and severe eczema like skin reactions may may occur. Learn more at 1-844-cosentyx or cosentyx.com Cindy

everyone's talking about protein lately, but how do you actually get enough of it? Muscle Milk Muscle Milk has a great tasting new formula with no artificial sweeteners, flavors or added colors. It's high quality complete protein designed to support healthy muscles with fewer ingredients than the previous formula and 27 to 42 grams of protein for when you're stuck in meetings or need a post workout recovery. Available in chocolate, vanilla, cream, cookies and cream and strawberries and cream. Try the new great tasting Muscle Milk today available in stores nationwide. Muscle Milk Protein for All.

[Megyn Kelly]

Now let's talk about universities in Hamas and Israel because I know you've been, I think, very strong on this issue.

[Bill Maher]

Yes, we won't have to fight anymore.

[Megyn Kelly]

So how do you there's always Common ground. How, how do you see? How did we get there?

[Andrew Schulz]

Right?

[Megyn Kelly]

Where we've got people in the scarves with the Hezbollah and the Hamas flags chanting at Jews that they can't go

[Bill Maher]

to class Again, for people who say to me, you know, you, you make fun of the left more than you used to. Yes, I do. First of all, I'm a comedian. And you're a lot funnier than you used to be. Not intentionally, but you are, you know, not just pregnant men and identity politics and oversensitivity and victim culture and cancel culture. There's lots of funny stuff. But if I ever needed a reason or a rationale for making the case that the left has changed, it would be this. The fact that they're now marching for the terrorists, really.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

The people who see themselves as the most liberal people in the world, the social justice warriors are standing with some of the most illiberal people in the world. I mean, I'm going to do my next editorial I'm going to do when I get back to work at my day job is about, look, kids, I know you're looking for a cause and that's admirable that kids want to have a cause. I got one for you. Women, women around the world, especially in Muslim majority countries, Hamas. I mean, really, you're marching for Hamas. Do you know that there are no equal rights for women as regards almost everything you can imagine? Speech, voting, free movement, divorce, property rights, freedom from sexual harassment, freedom from sexual violence. I mean, every possible thing that is a left wing cause, they violate. But those are the people we want in charge. Those are the people we want to control from the river to the sea. Even the people, of course, under the rule of Hamas, hate them. It's a fascist dictatorship. It's a fascist dictate. It's worse. It's a fascist dictatorship with a hard right religious bent. It's. It's like the worst of all worlds. Well, and those are your heroes.

[Megyn Kelly]

That's right. And they're out there. I mean, it's gone beyond. Of course, they were praising, as you know, on TikTok, the bin Laden letter and doing the Muslim call to prayer five times a day. These are people who are, you know, probably in Catholic mass for most of their formative years or Christian mass now. They're down on the prayer rug having absolutely no idea. If you move to one of those countries where that's bracket practice in the Middle east, they're gonna mutilate your genitals. You'll say goodbye to sexual pleasure because that's what the people you're praying to push. Just ask Ayan Hirsieli, who I know. You know.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, I saw the funniest meme. It was two panels. In the top one, it said, you know, queers for Palestine. You know, because they have that banner.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, it's ridiculous.

[Bill Maher]

And on the bottom, it's a guy getting thrown out the window. Palestine for Queers, right? Out the window.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, you. I pulled this clip because this. It turned out to be a very famous clip. And Sam Harris is in it. Ben Affleck is in it. You know the one I'm gonna. I'm talking about.

[Bill Maher]

Oh, yeah. From 2014, I think. Yeah.

[Megyn Kelly]

It went totally viral. And, you know, as usual, on a lot of these issues who were ahead of the curve in sort of identifying. No, there's actually a problem here that we're not acknowledging. I'm gonna play it. Watch it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You have been sold this meme of Islamophobia where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry toward Muslims as people.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that is intellectually ridiculous.

[Bill Maher]

Even it gets conflated. So hold on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Are you the person who understands the officially codified doctrine of Islam?

[Bill Maher]

You're the interpreter.

[Andrew Schulz]

So you can say.

[Bill Maher]

Well, this is.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm actually well educated on this topic. I'm asking you if I criticize.

[Bill Maher]

You're saying that Islamophobia is not a real thing. That if you're critical of something. Well, it's not a real thing when we do it. Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well.

[Bill Maher]

Well, no, it really isn't.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm not denying that. That certain people are bigoted against Muslims as people. That's. And that's a problem.

[Bill Maher]

Big of you.

[Andrew Schulz]

But the.

[Bill Maher]

It's gross.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's racist.

[Bill Maher]

It's not.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's.

[Bill Maher]

But it's so not.

[Andrew Schulz]

So it's like saying, so not a shifty Jew.

[Bill Maher]

You're not listening to what we are saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

We have to be able to criticize bad ideas. And of course we do. No, liberal doesn't, but Islam. But why is the motherlode of bad ideas. Jesus.

[Bill Maher]

So we have. We have.

[Megyn Kelly]

That was amazing television. Sam Harris is totally right.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. And it is about ideas. And again, this is. One of the big problems with the left today is they see race in everything. So, you know, nothing ever. And again, as the guy who was trying to, like, be the common sense person in the middle, just speak for the normies, everything, I think, to a lot of people, people strikes it the way it strikes me as we start with One thing, this idea over here, and then we're all the way on the other side over here in this issue. Of course, you know, as we were saying over there, there are people who are bigoted and that's wrong. And of course it's great that we got more impatient with racism in this country. That is the appropriate response I think we should have toward racism, being impatient with it. And then it goes all the way to. And no one who is a person of color can ever do anything wrong. That's how you get. We don't talk about China. North Korea starves its people. China puts the Uyghurs in concentration camps. The president uv Burundi was on the front page at the New York Times a month ago saying we should march the gays into football stadiums and kill. Kill them for just being gay. Boko Haram captures entire villages of children. But none of these crimes are coming from white people. So crickets, really kids, nothing. No marching against any abyss.

[Megyn Kelly]

You raised this point in the book too, and I thought it was a really good one about how when we do our look back at history, only only the whites get excoriated for their bad behavior 200 years ago. It's like, wait a minute.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, Genghis Khan was pretty rough. You know, talk about colonizers. I think 11% of certain. Was it. Was it the whole earth or maybe it's just Asia?

[Megyn Kelly]

I think it's the earth like a descendant.

[Bill Maher]

Descendant from Genghis Khan because he colonized a lot of vaginas. I mean. Yeah, I mean, look, it was a different era. I also, there's a.

[Andrew Schulz]

Of.

[Bill Maher]

Couple. Couple of really funny editorials, essays in that book about time and the idea that the woke have this crazy idea that, you know, people who lived 500 years ago really should have known better. You know, they have this magic moral time machine where they imagine what they would be doing in 1758 and it's always better than.

[Megyn Kelly]

And it wouldn't have been using the term master bedroom.

[Bill Maher]

No, that's another thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Bill Maher]

And again, that's another point I'm always trying to. Trying to make is that the difference between old school liberals like me and the woke is things like that people, I think have this idea that wokeness is an extension of liberalism and it very often is something that goes so far it actually turns around and becomes the opposite.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes, I agree with that.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah. The thing that you just mentioned about master bedroom or blacklist or these terms, you thumb, jip, you know, I mean, reservation. I guess we're not supposed to say because it, you know, insulting to the Indians. I don't know. What are you supposed to say when you go to a restaurant?

[Megyn Kelly]

There's something wrong with picnic too. We're not allowed to say picnic anymore.

[Bill Maher]

I can't remember why we have a. We're supposed to eat here. It's just. It's just so again, wokeness seems a lot about canceling people, catching people at something, renaming something stuff. Liberalism was at least about trying to fix things. It was about trying to lift people up. The people who had been forgotten genuinely. And there are many of them and downtrodden. These are the people we wanted to lift up. That's different than just pointing fingers and saying, I'm more pure than you are. And I think I can prove it. You know, you never want to get into a who hates racism the most contest with someone on the woke Leftist. It's like, you know what? I hate it too. Okay, shouldn't that be enough?

[Megyn Kelly]

Except I also hate anti white racism, unlike them. That's the problem.

[Bill Maher]

And things have. Yeah, things have changed. They also were. There's a essay in there about progressophobia, which was Steven Pinker's great term that he coined that it is a real problem on the left. They do not want to acknowledge progress, which is crazy because it is the product they're selling. Because somehow in their mind, if you acknowledge progress, then you're not as pure as the other person who says, no, things are still horrible. Well, lots of things are still horrible. And things just objectively are way better. Can we just live in the year we're living in? That's what I'm always saying. Just live in the year we're living in.

[Megyn Kelly]

Did you see that Biden speech at Morehouse College?

[Bill Maher]

No.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's a black college. And they gave him an honorary degree. It's where MLK went. This is when just this past weekend. So they gave him an honorary degree. And he did, you know, gave a speech. And first of all, the fact that they're giving an honorary degree to Joe Biden, who's like, I mean, the list of racist comments that guy has made is as long as Santa scroll. But okay, fine. So they got him to speak there, they made him feel good about himself. And then. Do we have it, you guys? I think we have a bit of a soundbite of him or we're pulling it over. But it was the most pandering, absurd, pandemic picture of blacks in America and the present day and America's relation to our black population. I was absolutely disgusting. It was like he was trying to stir up racial hatred right there. Live to the point where a couple of the black students turned their backs on him, which was pretty extraordinary. And he does it all the time. Right. I'll show you the sound bite as soon as you get it cued.

[Bill Maher]

But, well, Democrats, Democrats should be asking themselves, themselves, why does Trump, each election do better, not worse, with minorities and immigrants? Not, not worse. Better. Did better in 2020 than 2016 and seems to be doing better this time. That's a question Democrats really need to look in the mirror and ask themselves. And with the immigrants, I think I know the answer. I'll save them the trouble. Immigrants don't like, like it that the left seems to have this unrelenting negativity toward the country that these immigrants work so hard to get here. They really worked hard to get here. And when Trump says shithole, the shithole, I think a lot of them are going, yeah, you're fucking right, it's a shithole. Where I came from, why do you think I got on the ocean, on a raft, or walked 1,000 miles? Because I was living in pack paradise. There are places that are shitty in this world, and the immigrants know it. And, you know, it's not corny or conservative to say that you. To acknowledge that you're lucky if you're living in this country at this moment in history.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, well, it was a different message at Morehouse. Here it is. Watch.

[Bill Maher]

You start a college just as George Floyd was more murdered and there was a reckoning on race. It's natural to wonder. Democracy you hear about actually works for you. What is democracy? If black men are being killed in the street, what is democracy? You have to be 10 times better than anyone else to get a fair shot. Most of all, what does it mean? Mean, as we've heard before, to be a black man who loves his country, even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure. Well, that's my commitment to you, to show you democracy. Democracy. Democracy is still the way. If black men are being killed in the street, we bear witness. For me, that means to call out the poison. White supremacy drew out systemic racism. I stood up for George, with George Floyd's family, to help create a country. We don't need to have that talk with your son or grandson as they get pulled over.

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, joy. That's his vision of life as a black man in America.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, it's anachronistic, right?

[Megyn Kelly]

See the one guy popping out from the back, it was almost like he's like, why'd you just say.

[Bill Maher]

And it. It's not that there isn't still racism in this country, of course, and racist. Just. There will. Just as there will always be criminals, there will always be racist. And we should always be mindful of that and do what we can to call it out. But it's a very different country than it was even 10 years ago. And, and to be telling black students that you have to be 10 times better to get ahead. Head. That's anachronistic. That's not the case. I mean, there are cases also. I mean, there's certainly. They've done studies on this where the same person goes in for a job who's black and white, and the white person does get it more often. They prove that. So that still exists. It's also true that there are places in this country where it's an advantage to be a person of color at this point, this time, or gay or anything other than white and male and straight. I mean, I'm over 60, white, male and straight. I better be good at my job.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes.

[Bill Maher]

Because they're, they're always.

[Megyn Kelly]

But you had a good run.

[Bill Maher]

This is not somebody that they're trying to hire.

[Megyn Kelly]

It's ridiculous to say that you love the country more than the country loves you back. Like, that's just not true. What kind of message.

[Bill Maher]

That certainly has been true.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right. But we're certainly in the 1940s anymore.

[Bill Maher]

Well, exactly. Saying can we just live in the year we're living in? Because that doesn't really reflect it. And when they do studies of like, young, like under 30 polling, black versus white, the black folks are more optimistic.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, it's.

[Bill Maher]

It's the white liberals who.

[Megyn Kelly]

Don't you think this is the wrong message? Yes, Factually wrong.

[Bill Maher]

It is.

[Megyn Kelly]

Politically. How. How do you sell yourself to a group of young black college graduates? Is it by appealing to grievance, making them feel disempowered and like the country hates them? Or is it something that would be empowering and uplifting and something great about them and America?

[Bill Maher]

It's also not. I mean, they know better than anybody the country they're actually living in. I mean, to. To pretend that, as I think he was saying there the talk, you know, which refers to being pulled over in cops. I mean, are there racist cops? Of course there will always be racist, racist somebody somewhere. I mean, if you do polling, I think they've done it. People are not accurate in their assessment of how many people get killed by the cops or shot by the cops? I think about 1,000 people. No, it's either shot or killed. I think it's just shot. I think about 1000 people get shot by the cops a year in this country now, in a country of 340 million people, a lot of whom are nuts and a lot of whom have guns. Is that a lot? I don't know.

[Megyn Kelly]

It was. When that whole thing went down in 2019, I think it was. It was 19 or 18, but I think it was 19. Right. Right before George Floyd, I think it was. 10 million arrests, and of all of those in the country, between 12 and 15 involved the shooting of unarmed black men. Not 12 and 15. 12 to 15, depending on how you interpret unarmed. Some of the people who got shot by the cops had, like, come in, commandeered a car and tried to run down the police, and they'd be counted as unarmed. But that's. That's out of 10 million arrests. 12 to 15 in the year preceding George Floyd. But they. The way he's talking. Right. And by the way, the talk. Didn't your parents have the talk with you? Doesn't every. Everyone, especially a young man, comply?

[Bill Maher]

Come on. It's different if you're black, and it has been historically very different if you're black. You can't really. Really. Not contending that that's an equivalent. When we were kids, I think it's

[Megyn Kelly]

absurd to say that not everybody has the talk. We're all afraid when we get pulled over, pulled over by cops. I'm not worried that I'm gonna get shot in the way that I know some black men worry about. But it's absurd to suggest that anybody who resisted arrest, especially a man with a cop who knows the stakes are high when he pulls them over, isn't going to be in danger.

[Bill Maher]

Okay, but I mean, if I got the talk. How old were you when you got the talk? I was 14 in 1970. It's preposterous to contend that in 1970 a white kid needed the talk as much as a black kid in this country. That's okay, great. But also, here's something that he would never say at a place like this or anywhere. But there is a very big problem with young black men being shot in, kids killed. But not by the cops.

[Megyn Kelly]

Right.

[Bill Maher]

They are. The number of young black men compared to young white men who were killed, it's something like 20 times.

[Megyn Kelly]

Not allowed to think about it.

[Bill Maher]

But again, they're not being killed by white supremacists. They're being killed by each other.

[Megyn Kelly]

And We've completely written it off as a society.

[Bill Maher]

Well, to me, that's the most racist thing of all.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Bill Maher]

Is that. And I've always said, where are the leaders of the community to talk about? I mean, I feel like there's so many people in the black community who are looked up to for good reason. They're exemplars. And I mean, a lot of the most famous celebrities and most admired are African American. I mean, if they made a concerted effort to try to implore the end of this kind of behavior, would it have no effect at all? Because a lot of these. I mean, some of it is the drug war. If we would. My thing about racism is always, could we just be practical? I mean, John McWhorter writes about it better than anybody. You know, schools, families. End the drug war. I mean, that's it. So much of this is performative that we see on the left. That's the stuff that I don't.

[Megyn Kelly]

McWhorter, Glenn Lowry. Yes, of course. Thomas Sowell. None of whom has a statue of them. They're not heralded, they're not held examples,

[Bill Maher]

and they're not invited it on msnbc.

[Megyn Kelly]

Never.

[Bill Maher]

And they should be because they're kicked off.

[Megyn Kelly]

Or Coleman Hughes.

[Bill Maher]

Coleman Hughes, another one. Yes, exactly. And again, if you just ended the drug war, some of the shooting is that. And some of it is just about really just. Just nonsensical, you know, feuds and beefs. And you insulted me on social media. And then obviously there's too many guns floating around around. But it just seems like so tragic and unnecessary that this amount of killing is going on and that we just seem to again, ignore it and not talk about it and pretend it's all the cops.

[Megyn Kelly]

Pretend we're doing something because we're over here saying, you know, this is the way we want you to refer. Capitalize the word B. Now I feel better. Right in black.

[Bill Maher]

I find that. I find that racist.

[Megyn Kelly]

I'm Cyndi Lauper with fellow Cosentyx advocate chef Michelle Bernstein. We'll share our experiences with plaque psoriasis

[Advertisement Voice]

with psoriatic arthritis, and Dr. Panico will talk about the possible connection.

Cosentyx Secukinumab is prescribed for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, 300 milligram dose. And adults with active psoriatic arthritis, 150 milligrams dose. Don't use if you're allergic to Cosentyx. Before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. An increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. Like tuberculosis or other serious bacterial, fungal or viral infections. Some are fatal. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms like fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough, had a vaccine or plan to or if inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen serious allergic reactions and severe eczema like skin reactions may occur. Learn more at 1-844-cosentix or cosentyx.com Cindy

everyone's talking about protein lately, but how do you actually get enough of it? Muscle Milk Muscle Milk has a great tasting new formula with no artificial sweeteners, flavors or added colors. It's high quality complete protein designed to support healthy muscles with fewer ingredients than the previous formula and 2642 grams of protein for when you're stuck in meat or need a post workout recovery. Available in chocolate, vanilla, cream, cookies and cream, and strawberries and cream. Try the new great tasting Muscle Milk today. Available in stores nationwide. Muscle Milk Protein for all

[Megyn Kelly]

I want to ask you a couple, a couple things. First of all, I want to ask you about Stormy Daniels. You had her on your show.

[Bill Maher]

Yes.

[Megyn Kelly]

A few years ago when she was first out with her story. And then to your question credit, you pointed out on your show that her testimony in this trial changed dramatically from then to now. Do you think she's trying to paint herself as a fake MeToo victim now?

[Bill Maher]

That's what it looked like. I don't know if I would use the word dramatically, but it did shift. I mean, she definitely, she said in the trial, she said it again kind of the same thing that she said on the show. But she also talked about the incident in ways that she certainly hadn't back when I was interviewing her, that we used all the buzzwords, the MeToo movement, power imbalance. And I was afraid to leave and he blocked the door and I was afraid. And then the thing that was so preposterous I thought was, you know, I blacked out.

[Megyn Kelly]

She lost fingers in her feeling in her fingers and toes. Bill.

[Bill Maher]

Well, I mean, as I said at the time, you know, this is someone who's not unused to having sex with strange people. Not strange that they're people, just that they're stranger to you because she's a porn star. So when you're a porn star or it's like, hi, meet Bob. He's gonna fuck you in two minutes. Okay, great. Are we ready for wood? Come on, people. We're losing the light that you know. So the idea that she would black out because this was such a traumatic experience was to me Straining credulity. But, you know, I didn't think they should have gone ahead with this trial to begin with. I mean, first of all, it should have been an election interference trial brought by Merrick Garland. I tore him a new ass a couple of weeks ago because all these trials probably not going to come to anything. And they had four years to do it. But it wound up being a trial about falsifying business records in state court. And, you know, I don't know. Do you think he's going to win it?

[Megyn Kelly]

I don't think Trump is going to win it because.

[Bill Maher]

Really?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah, because I think it was lost on jury selection. It's New York. It went 87% for Joe Biden.

[Bill Maher]

Do you think 12 jurors are going to.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, because if I had to

[Bill Maher]

put my money, 12, all 12 jurors.

[Megyn Kelly]

Here's my. I thought they should not vote to convict because he definitely, he's put on a great case. The defense has put on a great case. Just they really haven't put on much of a case at all. But they've done enough to poke holes in Michael Cohen's testimony to win this case. But I think they lost it on jury selection in the same way Michael OJ Was lost on jury.

[Bill Maher]

Let me ask you this, counselor. Michael Cohen did serve prison time for doing this.

[Megyn Kelly]

No, not for doing this. That's the problem. He served prison time for lying about taxes in his taxi medallions and scheme. And then at the last minute they added on this, this election interference or campaign finance violation. And he said, sure, I did. I did that, too. And but he, that was never the bulk of the charges. That was about to send him into prison with the raids on his house and all that. That was an add on at the end.

[Bill Maher]

That was not my interpretation of it. I thought he went to jail because he was the fixer in this case.

[Megyn Kelly]

They're trying to lead you to believe that, Bill, but you trust Andy McCarthy of National Review, for example, very straight shooter. He hates Trump like you do. He's been pointing this out so many other legal.

[Bill Maher]

Anyway, I'll relook at it.

[Megyn Kelly]

But in your defense, that's sort of how they're setting it up in this trial. And that is what the jury has heard too, what you just said. So that's one of the reasons why I believe they probably will conclude he did it. They're going to say Cohen, he pleaded guilty to it. Weisselberg, he's in jail. Why is he in jail? And they've been led like With a, with a trail of breadcrumbs, I think, to probably the wrong conclusion. But I do think it'll be reversed,

[Bill Maher]

will affect the election, if at all. I don't think it will either.

[Megyn Kelly]

Don't you think it's all been baked in at this point?

[Bill Maher]

I do, absolutely. I mean, look, to most people it's just a sex case. I did an editorial about this. It's in the book also about, I, I saw this movie when it was called Kill Bill, when they did it with Bill Clinton. And people just do not like it when they go after presidents for their sex lives. And the idea that Trump would be fucking a porn star star at a golf charity event while his wife was home nursing their newborn is something we just assumed he would be doing because, you know, again, you're the party of family values. So it's, it is, as you say, baked into the cake. The only thing surprising was that for

[Megyn Kelly]

the record, Trump denies it.

[Bill Maher]

But you, you don't really believe.

[Megyn Kelly]

Here's my honest reaction.

[Bill Maher]

Can't tell me you think he didn't fuck Stormy Daniels.

[Megyn Kelly]

Let me tell you what I, what

[Bill Maher]

I think that's gonna really.

[Megyn Kelly]

Leading up to the trial, I said many times he did it. Let's face it, he denies it. For the record and the legal purposes, he denies it. But when I heard her do her, you know, dramatic reenactment of it all, now it's me too. No, no feeling in the fingers. I blacked out. I felt threatened because he was sitting on the bed when I came out of the bathroom and I couldn't get to the door. He was sitting on the bed. That's called leaving the hotel room. We've all done that. Like you just walk around the bed and you walk out the door. No, I mean, I started to doubt her story. I started to wonder whether this whole thing was some sort of a shakedown. If I had to put money on it, I'd say they had sex. But I don't believe anything past that.

[Bill Maher]

Well, that's silly. I mean, there's no good people so pejorative.

[Megyn Kelly]

What do you mean? I've been watching this trial very carefully and I've been dismissive of your not lack of, not just my opinion based on, on what I saw in 10 years of cross examining people. She's a liar.

[Bill Maher]

That doesn't mean he didn't fuck her. Okay, yes, both things are true. I mean, it's like saying, you know, O.J. simpson, were the corrupt police corrupt or did he kill his wife? Both. Both?

[Megyn Kelly]

Yep.

[Bill Maher]

I used to say, you know, the. The cops are so inept, they could not frame a guilty man. The cops did a bad job, and he killed his wife.

[Megyn Kelly]

All right, so what do you.

[Bill Maher]

And Stormy Daniels is a horrible witness, and so was Michael Cohen. There's no good people in this trial. And he fucked her at that golf tournament. That's just who he was. I mean, come on.

[Megyn Kelly]

Last but not least, Cohen and you have had some past interactions, right? Did he threaten you? I know when you and Trump had your.

[Bill Maher]

No, no, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

He.

[Bill Maher]

What? He. When. When I. When Trump sued me for calling. This is just.

[Megyn Kelly]

This is back in the birther gate.

[Bill Maher]

Maureen Dowd wrote about it. Yes, today in The Times. In 2013, Trump sued me because. What was it he offered?

[Megyn Kelly]

He offered 5 million for Obama's birth certificate.

[Bill Maher]

No, no.

[Megyn Kelly]

And then you offered 5 million to see proof that he wasn't the child of an orangutan.

[Bill Maher]

Yes, but actually, what he offered. That was one detail. I think they got wrong. The $5 million he had offered was for Obama to produce his college record records because, you know, a black guy in college, that's kind of fishy, huh?

[Megyn Kelly]

Oh, boy.

[Bill Maher]

So, yes, Donald Trump offered $5 million. So I thought I would offer him $5 million if he could prove. And we showed the picture. He does look exactly like that orangutan. The color of the hair was exactly the same. If you saw the picture. You know what I'm talking about. And so I offered him $5 million, and then they came to call court and produced the birth certificate to prove that he was actually not the son of an orangutan. Not that that's even possible. I mean, we are of different species. The definition of a species is you can't have sex with the feminine.

[Megyn Kelly]

Well, sex.

[Bill Maher]

No, no. I mean, that's.

[Megyn Kelly]

You can't reproduce.

[Bill Maher]

You can't reproduce. But. But they don't. They're not interested in. I mean, jaguars and tigers, they look kind of alike, but they don't fuck each other. But he did fuck Stormy Daniels.

[Megyn Kelly]

All right, Bill Maher, I got to let you go. Any last thoughts on what the solutions are to that? How do we come back together? Are we going to. We're going to land the plane. The country stays together. We find a way past the harsh partisan bullshit.

[Bill Maher]

I mean, I don't know. I mean, like I say, I think the rubber hits the road next January. Because if he wins, he wins. He's never going to give up power. You can't really believe that.

[Megyn Kelly]

I mean, I Definitely believe he will

[Bill Maher]

give up power, but he didn't last time. You think he's going to. You think in 2028 he's going to. To say, well, two terms. That's what the Constitution says. I'm gone? Of course not. He's going to stay on as long as he can. He'll make up some excuse. He doesn't care. He's never read the Constitution. He doesn't care what's in it. It's only about power and who wins. And he will never leave. He's already said many times, I think we deserve a third term because, you know, we were cheated out of the one that he's not serving right now. So he will never give up power. So there's the end of America as we know it. And if Biden wins again, he will. I mean, this country will fall apart because his. His rabble won't accept it, and he won't accept it. I mean, there's no solution except cholesterol

[Megyn Kelly]

and, and watching Real Time.

[Bill Maher]

Right.

[Megyn Kelly]

And buying this book. It's called.

[Bill Maher]

It's actually very. The funniest book ever, I think. And lots of people have said the same thing. So I know it sounds like, you know, because we're tussling, that it's all serious, but it's actually very funny. It is very funny, and I hope people enjoy it. And, and look, I appreciate you going toe to toe, because I think that's what people have to do. And it sometimes does get to a point where you get exasperated with each other. But, you know, as I say at the end, America is a family. And the definition of a family is understanding that, you know, you're with people who you may not like, but it doesn't come to violence.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yeah. Well, I have to say, Bill, you've always been very gracious to me. You've had me on your show a couple times.

[Bill Maher]

I'm a fan. I mean, you're. You're super smart. You know what we all have to get over is being talking with someone who you can be like, oh, I'm so in agreeance on agreeance agreement on this and this and this and this. And on this one, I think they're insane. Yeah, but we got four out of five.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes. Honestly, it's like, why there shouldn't be a limits test. Like, I love him, except he. He hates Trump, so I have to hate him. It's like, so you disagree with him on that? Okay, that's fine. That's how the world goes forward.

[Bill Maher]

I would hope when Trump doesn't relinquish power and this country, I'm play this clip and when this country does not resemble the one that we've grown up in, I would hope that you would be able to acknowledge that. And if he does relinquish power or doesn't try to, then I'm going to

[Megyn Kelly]

play this clip too.

[Bill Maher]

Then I will absolutely on my show say I was wrong and she was right.

[Megyn Kelly]

Either way, I'll have you back. You can take a victory lap or you have me back and you can take a victory lap. Either way, we'll make it happen.

[Bill Maher]

Thank you.

[Megyn Kelly]

Good luck with the book and everything.

[Bill Maher]

I appreciate it.

[Megyn Kelly]

All the best, Bill. Don't forget it's called what this Comedian Said.

[Bill Maher]

Good. Father's Day present.

[Megyn Kelly]

Yes, you have plenty of time.

[Bill Maher]

Father's Day coming up.

[Megyn Kelly]

Available now. See you tomorrow. At Nature's Bounty, the belief is simple. You already have a brilliant body. Supplements just help support your journey. For over 50 years, nature's bounty has offered vitamins and supplements to help you eat, sleep, thrive. Repeat from magnesium glycinate for heart and muscle support to hair growth capsules for fuller, thicker hair and probiotics. With 20 billion live cultures for digestion, Nature's Bounty. It's in your nature to thrive. Learn [e-mail] these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. The four can Sunshine with a Strong Chance of My Mochi Ice Cream My

[Advertisement Voice]

Mochi is premium ice cream wrapped in sweet, soft dough. It's creamy on the inside and chewy on the outside and comes in joyfully chill flavors like strawberry, mango and cookies and cream.

[Megyn Kelly]

Every box of My Mochi has six

[Advertisement Voice]

mochis, so it's fun to eat and easy to share all summer long. Grab a purple box of my Mochi

[Megyn Kelly]

ice cream today and taste the joy.