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Megyn Kelly
Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly and welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show's bonus episode today featuring some of our most interesting interviews of 2025 of the ones that took place in person. They range from comedians like Andrew Schultz. My God, he's hysterical. And Tim Dillon. Same here in studio with me. To Caroline Levitt and Marco Rubio in Washington D.C. zachary Levi and I sat down together as did Dave Porter, Portnoy, Portnoy and yours truly in the SiriusXM headquarters in New York City. That was fun and great. It was very interesting. Zachary Levi, he's a big Hollywood star. He had a team. Dave Portnoy showed up with no one that I always love seeing. Like how they show, how they show up, how they come to the venue. They were both interesting. Zachary's all heart, Portnoy's all brawn and brains. Enjoy and see what you think. See you soon. Here's one way to clean up your medicine cabinet this season and replace toxin filled conventional products with more natural options. Propolis immune support throat spray and propolis plus vitamin C Liposomal can be must haves in the medicine cabinet as seasonal germs start to hit. Did you know that germs can enter through your nasal passages just as easily as through your mouth? Well that's gross. Propolis nasal spray though is here to help you. It's a great non toxic swap for other over the counter drug filled medications. It's non habit forming, it's natural and it has antimicrobial benefits. Beekeepers naturals makes clean non toxic products that actually work. They never use harmful ingredients like red dye number three or other synthetic dyes or artificial flavors. Their products are third party tested for all Pesticides, and they are dedicated to sustainable beekeeping and helping to save the bees. Beekeepers Naturals is offering you an exclusive offer. Go to beekeepersnaturals.com Megan or enter code Megan to get 20% off your order. That's beekeepersnaturals.com, megan or enter code Megan. Beekeepers Naturals products are also available at Target, Whole Foods, Walmart, CVS, and Walgreens. This whole thing is about your journey with Emma and trying to conceive a baby. And, I mean, no detail is spared. Yeah, but so it's very personal. It's unusually personal. Yeah. Yeah. Did you. Did you run it by her first?
Tim Dillon
So the. The thing was, is. Yeah. At first, like, you know, this is the most, like, male thing. Like, but it's. I assumed that the reason why we couldn't is because it was her fault. Right. And I talk about it in the special where I'm like, she was really concerned it was her fault, and I was really concerned it was her fault. Like, we were all really concerned.
Megyn Kelly
Obviously. Her fault. Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Because, like, men, we have this, like, confidence in our sperm that, like, the. There's no real reason why, but we just know. Right. Like, every time I've ever had sex with a girl, I was like, oh, my God, this is going to be crazy. Like, what should we do? How do you know? Calling the next month. I know she's pregnant, guaranteed. Which I now know is a waste. And once we found out that her ovaries are perfect and my sperm was horrible, it. It actually made it a lot easier for me to talk about.
Megyn Kelly
Really?
Caroline Levitt
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Because I think the reason why, like, anybody who has fertility issues, one, it's very isolating because you're so protective of the person that you love that you don't. A lot of women feel a lot of shame around this.
Megyn Kelly
Y.
Andrew Schultz
True.
Tim Dillon
And at first, I. I felt, like, real shame. I was like, does God not want me to have a child? Like, I was like, I didn't understand it. Like, I think I'm, like, a pretty good person and I'm kind to people, and I'm like, why is this happening? Like, what the. Is going on? And. Yeah, so I get that. And a lot of women, if they are struggling, they're just like. It's. They feel like it's a. I don't feel very stigmatized. Right. And. But once she was perfect and I was up, I could get on stage, and it was really cathartic to talk about it. And then once I started talking about it, I literally thought that I was like, this was, like a one in, like, 10 million thing.
Megyn Kelly
Oh, wow.
Tim Dillon
The second I started talking about, all my friends start telling me that they're doing ivf.
Megyn Kelly
Oh, wow.
Tim Dillon
And, like, all these people in the audience would hit me up afterwards. They're like, oh, yeah, you know, same thing happened. And I was like, what the. Is this, like, the last taboo subject?
Megyn Kelly
How did anybody ever get pregnant before ivf? Because everybody's doing it, dude.
Tim Dillon
It is like. It's unbelievable. It's. It's almost like I was like, does anybody really get abortion? Like, I'm like, it's so hard to get pregnant. Why is this an issue? Like. Like, how often do these athletes have unprotected sex that they have 20 kids? Like. Like, I couldn't believe it. It was unfathomable. So. But then it became, like, as brutal as it was, there was these kind of funny moments, that being one of them, just the humility going into the.
Megyn Kelly
Room with the lady. We just talked to the audience, you know, Doug came in to say hi to Andrew in the commercial break, and we were bonding over our shared experience. Cause he and I did IVF with our kids, too. And Doug joked that after he had to donate the sample first, he said he was gonna wear, like, a red crushed velvet smoking jacket on his way in and on the way out, he was just gonna be like, that was fantastic. I was amazing.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. I was always thinking about, like, do noises in there. Like, how uncomfortable do I make it for the other guys at the clinic? Like, just screaming random things.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Tim Dillon
Sesame Street. Just something crazy. But, yeah, it's like, oh, it's crazy.
Megyn Kelly
It's like a walk of shame when you're walking by all the other guys there. Everybody's there. Oh, God. I know what you're about to do.
Tim Dillon
It's so humbling. You're just sitting in this room, like, all of you are in there.
Megyn Kelly
You're like, so why did they make you go in to give the sperm sample? I didn't think. Couldn't they.
Tim Dillon
So I did it from home once.
Megyn Kelly
Okay.
Tim Dillon
The whole. I don't even. I haven't even put, like, a lot of the stuff in it. But, like, the whole journey was brutal. So the first one I did from home, which was like, I'm in the room, my wife, like, hands me the thing. Like, it's like, homework. And she's like, okay, I'll give you 30 minutes. You go do your thing. I'm gonna go outside or I'm gonna do the dishes. So, like, I Hear her doing the dishes in the background where I'm, like, being mandated to masturbate. And I'm like, on our bed. Like, I don't think I've ever masturbated on a bed. Like, I'm just on our bed and the bed is made perfectly. Like, everything is, like, set up. And I, at one point, like, I'm just like, I don't know. This is, like, so weird. And I, like, looked up and the TV was off, so it was just a black screen. So it's a perfect mirror of me.
Megyn Kelly
Oh, no.
Tim Dillon
And I was just like, this is the saddest day of my life. I'm sitting Indian style on my bed, trying to make a sample cup. We send that sample in, it comes back and it's like, it's. It's not good.
Megyn Kelly
Oh.
Tim Dillon
And they're like. Not only are they not swimming, they're, like, shaped weird.
Megyn Kelly
They.
Tim Dillon
And I was like. I was, like, a little defensive, so I was like, well, could that be from, like, the speed that they hit the cup? Like, maybe, you know, it's the blunt force trauma kind of warped them a little.
Megyn Kelly
Flow is just too strong. It was too strong.
Tim Dillon
That's what. That's what it is. And they're like, no, that's definitely not it. And I was like, okay. And they go. They go, well, why don't you do this for, like, a couple months? Wear baggy underwear. Ice your balls every single day.
Megyn Kelly
Ice them.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Whoa.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's a big thing. Don't drink anymore. Don't smoke anymore, and take these pills and then we'll try it again in like a month or two. And I did that. And we tried it again and it got worse.
Megyn Kelly
No.
Marco Rubio
What?
Tim Dillon
And I was like, why do you think that is? And the doctor's like, we've never seen this before.
Megyn Kelly
There's some pride in that. It's gotta be a little bit.
Tim Dillon
Setting records. That's that record.
Megyn Kelly
I told a story one time when Dave Rubin was on, but Doug had the funniest experience there, where they make you ejaculate.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Like 24 hours before the real sample. That's going to be like your future, kid. Yeah. Yeah. They want you to clean house.
Tim Dillon
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
It's like, I can't remember if it's 24 or 48 hours.
Tim Dillon
48 hours before. Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Okay, so. But they want it to be 48.
Tim Dillon
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
And they don't really want it to be 46 or 44, because you need.
Tim Dillon
The amount of time to build up the new batch.
Megyn Kelly
Yes. So, like, timing does matter. It just so happened that on one of ours, we were visiting my. My nana, who was literally, like 90 at the time, and we were playing domino, and I was like, doug, it's time. He was like, what? I'm like, you gotta go in there right now. My poor husband. And, you know, it's like one of these older person's homes where, like, there's five inches between the bottom of the door and the ground. He can hear every piece of conversation. Dominoes. Like you're palming the double five, you know? And Doug said this. Horrible. For Doug.
Tim Dillon
This is the thing about this.
Megyn Kelly
Do you got to do.
Tim Dillon
It's a. It's the. The journey is brutal when you're in. It is the hardest thing that you'll go through in your life. Sorry. Definitely the hardest thing we went through. And. But after the fact, it is hysterical.
Megyn Kelly
Yes. Like, can't believe what you've been through.
Marco Rubio
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
And like, there are so many of these things that are so funny. And the beautiful thing about having a child is you get this, like, amnesia for what you went through to get there. And I think that's actually kind of, like, built into our DNA. So we keep making them.
Megyn Kelly
I totally agree. You know, like, same women have been saying that for E because of the pain of labor, and it's so devastating. And then you forget all about it. I never had labor. Cause I had three C sections. But my friends tell me it's extremely painful.
Tim Dillon
Oh, Emma was in there for 24 hours, and then she had the C section. Cause the baby's heart rate dropped.
Megyn Kelly
Oh, God, that's scary.
Tim Dillon
Yeah, the whole thing is terrible. When you were doing the shots before to prepare for the ivf, did you have any fun mood swings or anything?
Megyn Kelly
Oh, yeah. I was actually fine. No way. Did not have weird mood swings. But it was very funny because Doug does not. Like, he. His mom got this terrible cut in her leg, and it was so brutal. And Doug was right there. He bandaged it up, he put the medicine. I was like, yeah, I can't take that kind of injury. But you pull out a needle, and Doug is one of those, like. Oh.
Tim Dillon
So he.
Megyn Kelly
So he couldn't take shots, but he had to. In the beginning, as it turned out, he didn't have to, but we thought he did.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Because in the beginning, they really make it up into a thing. Like you gotta mix the compound and then like, kind of back in a hard spot to reach. You gotta ice the area. Oh, my God. Like Our future family depends on this. And Doug was in a hot, like, a cold sweat. And the superintendent of our building at the time, his name was Lance. And they were like, it's very important that your wife have a partner that helps with it. And Doug is like, this is going to be very hard for Lance.
Steve Bannon
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
But he did it. He did it. He got it through. But honestly, by the third child, you know, he. Doug was no part of it. I was like, I need no ice. I'm good. Boom, we're done. Off to the race.
Tim Dillon
It is crazy that they make you mix it at home. So anybody who's not familiar, they give you these two, I guess, hormonal compounds, and you have to put them together.
Megyn Kelly
In the syringe in just the right proportions.
Tim Dillon
I'm like, why isn't this done at the lab? And then we just hit it. Like, you don't have to make the Kit Kat. Right. Like, make the bar and then send it to me. And I remember, like, watching my wife do these things, making sure it's the right amount. You got to push a little out so no air gets in there.
Megyn Kelly
Right, Right. So you don't give yourself an air bubble, like life or death, literally.
Tim Dillon
And she's like, did I push too much out? Will I not get it? Is this. But there. Yeah, there was. I mean, Emma would get, like. It would really get her going.
Megyn Kelly
Did you get angry or just overly emotional?
Tim Dillon
Oh, angry, like, but we didn't know that that was the cause. So, like, I remember we got into it at a Japanese restaurant. You don't realize how quiet those restaurants are until you're having, like, a loud blow up with, like. And, you know, the only thing interrupting the blow up because everybody is already quite a Japanese restaurant. And then once you have, like, a verbal altercation, they're really quiet.
Megyn Kelly
Oh, I love when somebody has a fight and I'm nearby.
Tim Dillon
Oh, my God.
Megyn Kelly
Doug and I, like, he'll start talking. I'll be like, be quiet. This is too important.
Tim Dillon
We gotta lock in. Everybody was locked in. They're just slurping udon and watching us. And the only thing that would interrupt it is, like, when a new person would walk in. And, you know, the whole restaurant has to go. Hasimashe. Whatever. Emma would feel like they were interrupting our argument. So.
Marco Rubio
So.
Tim Dillon
So we're fighting. Hasima say, Emma goes, are you kidding me? And then back to yelling at me. It was just amazing.
Megyn Kelly
Well, weren't you. So you weren't that guy who was like, she's going through A lot. These are just her emotions. I'm just gonna let. I'm gonna let everything slide. I'm not gonna get mad about anything.
Tim Dillon
We didn't know that it was the case, so we didn't know until literally that night. I go, hey, did we do the shot? We did the shot today, right? And she goes, oh, we're walking down. We were on Kenmare Street.
Megyn Kelly
That's when you put it together that she's hormonal.
Andrew Schultz
And then.
Tim Dillon
And then she was also like, oh, I guess I'm like really reactive to. From then on. We stopped going to Japanese restaurants.
Megyn Kelly
And then how about after she had the baby? Did she have like. Because I. You're sleep deprived. You're very hormonal.
Tim Dillon
It's the most insane thing if, if you're. Did you breastfeed?
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
Okay. That is the. I think that this is. I think that is the most difficult part of child rearing is the, the. If you are breastfeeding full time, like, meaning every two hours.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Tim Dillon
That is insane.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, it's a lot.
Tim Dillon
That is insane. Every two hours. So you're waking up. I don't think a lot of people know this. You're waking up every two hours in the night. You don't get more than an hour of sleep at a time.
Megyn Kelly
It's truly like an astronaut training situation. Yeah. No, it's brutal. But then it lets up a little.
Tim Dillon
When it lets up this beautiful bonding experience that you have with your child. And it's something. Even now, Emma's still breastfeeding and it's just this thing that she's like, she doesn't even want to let go of it.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Well, then you get to like the six month mark where the baby can start having like smaller, like solid foods and they're still having breast milk. And you're at the point now where like you're. You're producing the more. More milk than ever. And yet the baby's somewhat getting a little independent.
Caroline Levitt
Yep.
Megyn Kelly
And the weight comes shredding off. That's the best moment where you're like, I'm making tons of milk. All these calories are coming off for free.
Tim Dillon
Oh. Cause your body is burning calories, but.
Megyn Kelly
Your, your baby doesn't need as much milk as from you as he needed it five months because now he's starting to eat food. But your body doesn't know that. So it's still burning like 800 calories a day. You're like, oh my God, I have a waste again. There's a normal ass. Thank you sweet baby. I always say they're selling breastfeeding to moms. All wrong. That you would care about the health of our babies. But we know that babies who are formula fed are fine too. You have to sell it to them like Ozempic.
Tim Dillon
You'll be skinny. Yes, it is natural Ozempic.
Megyn Kelly
It's natural Ozempic.
Tim Dillon
Let that baby suck the fat out of you.
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Megyn Kelly
So there's your babe who was born in July. That's your little boy.
Marco Rubio
My little boy.
Megyn Kelly
What's his name?
Marco Rubio
Nicholas. And we call him Nico.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, I know we talked about this a little backstage at the super bowl, but how are you handling. I mean, true new motherhood is not even a year. And this crazy job.
Marco Rubio
Yeah, it's a lot. No denying it. He's seven months. I had him in the midst of the presidential campaign three days before the President almost lost his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. My son was born on the 10th. The president was shot on the 13th. It was my first day home with him from the hospital, and it kind of threw me right back to work, much sooner than I would have probably expected or hoped. But becoming a mother in the midst of this very chaotic political world that I work in has been the best thing I could have ever imagined because it gives you great perspective and it humbles you. And my son doesn't give a crap. But about my job, he just wants me to come home and snuggle and play toys and be present. So it's, you know, a difficult balance to prioritize being good at my job and being good as a mother. But I just try to prioritize my time and carve out that time when I can. And I'm so grateful to have the support system I do. A great husband who can be very present with our child. And then, of course, a wonderful mother and father and friends who chip in when I need them.
Megyn Kelly
Your parents must be so proud of you.
Marco Rubio
I think so.
Megyn Kelly
Give him a grandchildren and access to President Trump in the same year.
Marco Rubio
My mom actually was in town this week to help with our baby because my husband had some work things to attend to. And she came to my briefing yesterday. She was in the room. I was like, are you sure you want to go in?
Megyn Kelly
Did you get annoyed by pesky reporters?
Marco Rubio
Well, I brought in some backup yesterday. I brought in my colleague Walt and Steven and Kevin. So a lot of the questions were for them. So I asked her after I said, how was it? She was like, thank God all the questions weren't to you today. I would have been dying in there. So she enjoyed it very much.
Megyn Kelly
My Nana, who died at 101, she was in her elderly years, not that able to, like, get out and around. So if I had a important court argument that was on tape, I would show it to her, and she would get so mad at the judges, she didn't think that they should be allowed to ask me any questions. She didn't like opposing counsel. Why is he saying that about you? They don't totally get it.
Marco Rubio
It's a motherly bias that we have for our babies.
Megyn Kelly
All right, so you are balancing with the baby. Can I just ask you one other question on that? Because we talk about it all the time, especially on the right. And I, too, am a working mom and always have been. I. I've, you know, been a professional woman since I graduated from college or law school. But now there's, I think, a good thing, which is like the restoration of valuing so called traditional.
Marco Rubio
Right.
Megyn Kelly
You know, moms. And, and that's great. The women who take care of their kids full time, most of my best friends are doing exactly that. But it seems like in the right, there's like some a bit of a shift toward, like, you can't do what Caroline's doing. That's actually like an unsafe or a dangerous or a bad choice for families for children, which I reject wholesale. But you hear it more and more.
Marco Rubio
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Do you hear that? And what do you think of it?
Marco Rubio
I would reject that. It's a bad choice. Is it a tough choice? Absolutely. You know, as a mother, you want to be with your child 24 7. You have that maternal instinct.
Megyn Kelly
27.
Marco Rubio
Not all the time. Well, right now, yes, because he's seven months and just squishy and lovable. But I'm sure that will change. No, but, but you do have that maternal instinct. But also recognizing I'm doing this work for my son and for all children to make this country better. And it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. It's also very. It's temporary. Right. In four years, my son will be four years old and the president will no longer be at the White House. And then I'll move on and do something else. But, you know, this chaos of 247 work is a temporary matter. And that's what at least I tell myself to get through these very long and hard days. But I would reject that. You can't be a good mom and be good at your job. I think you can do both. Certainly not. It's not for everybody. And it takes a lot of work and will and faith and prayer. And it's hard, but it can be done. And, you know, I would reject that.
Megyn Kelly
We can't chase our great conservative moms out of the workforce.
Marco Rubio
Right.
Megyn Kelly
We get rid of you, we get rid of Katie Britt, we get rid of Usha Vance. Like, this is not the way Amy Coney Barrett is not. Like, that's not that should not be the place the conservative movement lands. All right, so you. So now you start as White House press secretary. And were you thrilled to get that invitation?
Marco Rubio
Of course. Yes. I was very humbled and honored. And I was campaigning, you know, with the President over the past year through the court trials. We sat in that courthouse in Manhattan with the Bragg trial. So many rallies, and we worked so damn hard to win that election.
Megyn Kelly
You must have really wrestled with how you were gonna meet the high bar set by Karine Jean Pierre. Sorry, was that out loud? No, she was terrible.
Marco Rubio
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
I mean, come on.
Marco Rubio
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
So how has your approach differed, would you say?
Marco Rubio
I think it's vastly different. And if you ask people, even in the legacy media, even the Trump haters, they will tell you the approach has been much different, not just for me, but the entire White House. Oh, absolutely. They come in my office every day and they'll admit that off the record, maybe not on the record, but they will say they appreciate the access and the transparency and the preparation that goes into my briefings. And everybody on our team, by the way, who goes out to the cameras and speaks. We have great policy experts who are great spokespeople for the president, and they appreciate the information that they're being given. They're also exhausted, by the way, because we are doing so much.
Megyn Kelly
And not even in, like, a wussy, sad little way. Like, they must be exhausted because it's just nonstop.
Marco Rubio
It's insane. Yes.
Megyn Kelly
So who's your least favorite?
Marco Rubio
Well, I did have a bit of a tiff this morning outside with our friend Peter Alexander at NBC News. So it was great.
Megyn Kelly
We'll drop in a clip of it where he was really pressing you on whether there's going to be criminal prosecutions for this alleged fraud in the waste, fraud and abuse.
Marco Rubio
According to an IG report from the Social Security Administration, there was $71 billion worth of fraud in one single fiscal year that we know about. And so that is a lot of fraud, Peter.
Andrew Schultz
To be clear, that $71 billion was from 2015 to 2022.
Steve Bannon
So it wasn't in just one year.
Marco Rubio
And it was $71 billion.
Megyn Kelly
But it was.
Steve Bannon
But it wasn't in one year, just.
Dave Portnoy
Over multiple years from 2015 to 2022.
Marco Rubio
So are you defending $71 billion in fraud, Peter? That's a lot of money. Why is the media so against cutting waste, fraud, and abuse from the government? I don't get it.
Megyn Kelly
I just want to ask a question.
Marco Rubio
We won't be deterred. We will not be Deterred from people like you and the press said something.
Tim Dillon
That wasn't true, which is you said.
Megyn Kelly
That they have found before that they.
Dave Portnoy
Believe there have been tens of millions of people who are receiving money who are dead on the Social Security list. The same report that you referred to said that.
Steve Bannon
Peter, none of those individuals are.
Marco Rubio
Peter, did you watch the full clip of the interview that I did when I said that? And I said, there are a lot of unanswered questions, and we suspect there could be tens of millions of people. So you just said what I said is not true. In fact, it was true. That's a suspicion that this administration has, and we're committed to. To finding out the truth. It perplexes me and also infuriates me why the media continues to make excuses for our government spending billions and billions of dollars in wasteful money. Maybe they don't mind, but I know there's millions of people watching that do mind. So we're going to keep doing what we're doing.
Megyn Kelly
With Doge, it was a pretty incredible exchange where it was like, 71 billion has been spent on fraudulent payments. And he's like, oh, but that was over many years. Well, does it matter? Hello?
Marco Rubio
Like, there's one report that showed $71 billion. What are you talking about?
Megyn Kelly
Eyes on the ball.
Marco Rubio
Y. Yeah, exactly.
Megyn Kelly
All right, so that's good. I'm glad to hear the NBC guys out. Good choice.
Marco Rubio
Sorry.
Megyn Kelly
Peter, how do you prepare? Because you can't know everything, and you could get asked anything, and unlike Karine Jean Pierre, you're not out there reading and furiously flipping through your tabs to try to find an answer somebody else has written for you. So how are you preparing?
Marco Rubio
So I did prepare a binder for the first briefing. My great assistant Keegan put it together. And then I showed up to work, and it was, like, this thick, and I was like, I can't even move this. I can't use this. It was too cumbersome for my brain and the way I learn and think and study to have that. It felt like added weight. And I said, I want to just go in there and speak from my mind and from my heart.
Megyn Kelly
Like your boss.
Marco Rubio
Like my boss. And. And I've been working for my boss now on the campaign. I know the policies we're enacting. We've been talking about them for years. And so. And in school, I was that way, like, studying. I would just read, you know, highlight.
Megyn Kelly
Memorize, articulate, and then it goes off to the side. Yeah, and you talk.
Marco Rubio
Exactly. And so that's been my. My method of preparation.
Megyn Kelly
No nerves.
Marco Rubio
The first briefing, I was certainly nervous. I think any human would. And I'm not afraid to admit that.
Megyn Kelly
But it must have been cool, too, to get up there.
Marco Rubio
It was. You know, once I got up there, I realized, okay, like, I can do this. I know what I need to know. And now I feel very, you know, comfortable and confident and, you know, I will never get complacent because I understand the weight of the responsibility on my shoulders speaking on behalf of the President of the United States. So I remain as prepared today as I was on that first day, and I hope that's true four years from now. And I have. We have amazing people in that building who are so smart and know everything about every topic, and I rely on them. You know, I call Stephen Miller or Mike Waltz's team or Kevin Hassett all the time, and I'm like, please explain this to me, because I don't understand. But you do. So what's going on?
Megyn Kelly
What's the most interesting or surprising thing you've seen at the White House? You know, like, this isn't a building you spent a ton of time in before.
Marco Rubio
No, the people you see every day, especially with President Trump and his calendar of meetings. You know, walking through the West Wing lobby, you can see anybody from Tim Cook to Tiger woods, as I saw yesterday. So, you know what you see?
Megyn Kelly
It's not as exciting as Joe Biden's the White House with the cocaine, but it's good.
Marco Rubio
Exactly.
Megyn Kelly
It's good.
Marco Rubio
It's a hunter hanging around.
Megyn Kelly
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Ted Cruz
You've heard us talk before about the effort by legacy media to stop you from accessing shows like this one. They do it by eliminating spectrum available to consumers like you to access shows like this one. They say it's a national defense issue. Absurdly enough. While Trump isn't buying it, neither is Senator Ted Cruz. In the big beautiful bill, Republicans have heard your voice and they're providing more spectrum. So what does that mean for you? It can reduce your monthly broadband bill and preserve your ability to watch, listen and stream all the content that you choose, not what's chosen for you by some big cable provider. The sale of spectrum will also generate tens of billions of dollars to reduce our national debt. What's not to love about that? Don't let the giant cable providers and legacy media continue to filter your information. Tell your senator and your member of Congress to work with Senator Cruz and President Trump to expand spectrum and end the legacy media monopoly for good. You can learn more@endthecableopoly.org he did take.
Megyn Kelly
Over at the National Institutes of Health at HHS this week, and he made a comment, which he's made before, but it doesn't get old, on how meaningful it was for him and how important Trump has been, really, in changing Bobby Kennedy's life. Listen.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
For 20 years, I've gotten up every morning on my knees and prayed that God would put me in a position where I can end the childhood chronic disease epidemic in this country. On August 23rd of last year, God sent me President Trump, and he gave me Mr. President. A lot of people told me that I couldn't trust President Trump. I better get it in writing. And we did a handshake, and everything that he told me he was going to do, he has done. And I'm so grateful to him. And I've told you before, I genuinely believe that you are a pivotal historical figure and you are going to transform this country.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
What a moment.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. Oh, man. I watched it multiple times, and I've heard him talk about that before, about, you know, him being in prayer and petition for 20 years. I mean, I can feel it. I cried when. I mean, I cried when I was filming in Eastern Europe, Eurasia, when the election was happening. Like, I think I even was, when I was talking to you, I was over there, Something like that. And so we were up, you know, hours before the US Was up. And so I was seeing the results, the poll results and stuff like that, and I was just like, wow, I can't believe that this is actually happening. Like, like they were able to keep all of the potential, you know, things at polls and ballot boxes and everything.
Megyn Kelly
Like, legit, and then getting Bobby across the line.
Dave Portnoy
And so. And that's what I was saying to the other day, to finally. Because that was one step. And then it's like, okay, but we still got to get Bobby Tulsi, you know? And so the other Day I was on a flight home and I'm seeing the confirmation and I just started crying on the plane because I really do. Like, I know this man, I know him personally and I know that he has the integrity that's the exact. And so does Tulsi. To go and be a leader that is non corruptible. There are far too many people, even good people. But it's like you dangle that just little bit of like, oh, I could, I mean I'm gonna do good, but I'm also gonna, I'm gonna take. And then that starts with a little bit and there's a little bit of compromise and then it's a little more compromise and a little more compromise and next thing you know, they're not doing any of the good. They're just, you know, enriching themselves with insider trading or whatever it is that they're doing. And this guy means it, he means it. And, and I, and he, and I absolutely agree with him. You know, like, I love that even when people saying like, oh, you better getting in writing and you know, don't trust that guy. Trump meant it. Yeah, he meant it. And that should show everybody too. Like yes, he's bullish and Trumpy and all of the things, things that I don't like. I get it. I also understand why people have such a hard time voting for somebody like that. Because you want, you don't want your leader to have certain egotistical aspects about him. Put all that down for just a moment and see the things that he is doing well is doing right. Man of his word. That was a hard confirmation. Both of those were hard. Like not only did the Democrats not want it to happen, but even these Rhino Republicans, Mitch McConnell, bleh, blah. Get that guy out of there as soon as possible. I mean he's just gonna freeze himself out of there anyway. But like it happened.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
And if that's not God at work to help heal this country in this world, I don't know what is.
Megyn Kelly
And here it's like, even if you are against Trump, if you're against Bobby Kennedy, whatever you believe about him, like listen to what he's saying he's going to do. Listen and ask yourself, wouldn't this be great? What's so bad about this? Here he is going on in Soundbite eight. Take a listen.
Andrew Schultz
We will convene representatives of all viewpoints to study the causes for the drastic rise in chronic disease. Some of the possible factors we will investigate were formally taboo or insufficiently scrutinized. A Childhood vaccine schedule, electromagnetic radiation, glyphosate, other pesticides, ultra processed foods, artificial food allergies, SSRI and other psychiatric drugs, pfas, pfoas, microplastics. Nothing is gonna be off limits.
Megyn Kelly
Yes. Praise God.
Dave Portnoy
Hallelujah.
Megyn Kelly
Exactly. He hit it all.
Dave Portnoy
Like, isn't that what the.
Megyn Kelly
Right. Right on.
Dave Portnoy
But isn't that what someone in his position should have always been doing? Yes, and every one of those regulatory agencies should have always been doing.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Dave Portnoy
The FDA should have been on top of all of this instead of just taking handouts from lobbyists.
Megyn Kelly
No, they're doing studies on, like, trans fish and Covid vaccines and how many 14th, 15th versions we need. This is exactly it. He hit all the stuff that's unhittable. Who the hell else is talking about EMF and that glycophate? I can never.
Dave Portnoy
Glyphosate.
Megyn Kelly
I can never pronounce it.
Dave Portnoy
That's all right.
Megyn Kelly
But they're spraying it all over our wheat, which is why it's in every box of pasta that you buy and you don't even know it's in there. These pesticides that are all over our food. Both parties are guilty. The Republicans represent a lot of farmers, too. We love our farmers. But the farmers, too, I'm sure, would love to find some way of getting rid of these toxic chemicals so they don't have to swim in them all day and they can create products that are actually healthy and good for us and taste good. No one's even talking about this other than him.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's a. It's a brave new world in the most positive of ways. I. I hope, I believe. I mean, Lord knows there's still people working in the shadows and the darkness that are trying to derail a lot of these things. So I don't think we're out of the woods just yet. There's still a lot of work to do. Right.
Megyn Kelly
Same as they're going to try to derail every step of doge.
Dave Portnoy
Every. Every. Every bit of it. But we must continue to stay in prayer and petition and believing that something really good is happening right now and do it with empathy, make sure that people are not being just lost in this shuffle. You know, that is my appeal and I meant it and for all people. But I think that these are things that have been long, long, long overdue. Long overdue. And we deserve it. Everyone deserves this kind of transparency. Like, light is the best disinfectant. Like, just get in there. Just look at it all. Let's have A real coming to Jesus moment. And we need to do that with all things. We need to bring the American public in on a lot of these things that have been secretive. And no, no, no, we can't tell them like, rip the band aid off.
Megyn Kelly
SSRIs. Talking about that openly. I mean, that has been more out there in the conversation. But it's very bold for the HHS director to say we actually are going to be looking into these. It's just Americans are taking the antidepressants like they're candy and they don't realize why they're not getting better. And then they up the dosage and then they try a different one and then they up the dosage there. And there's no actual public health official being really straight with them on the downsides of these drugs and how there might be alternative ways not to to rip on those drugs. They have been helpful for a lot of people, but they're not for everybody. And it's the first line of defense. My friend has a daughter in college and she went to like the college counseling place because it can be a difficult adjustment. They try to push an SSRI on her. It's like, for the love of God, maybe just talk to her, do talk therapy, do cognitive behavioral therapy before we just knee jerk give the drug.
Dave Portnoy
Well, absolutely. But I think that there's even more effective ways of solving for all of this. And you really gotta go to the source. You got to go to the root, right? Why are SSRIs pushed on everybody so much? It's because there's incentive programs. Why are vaccine and the vaccine schedule pushed on children so hard? Because there's incentives. Why should there be incentives for doctors to push what should just be healthy and natural and good? You shouldn't have to incentivize a doctor to encourage their patients to do something that's been tested and is safe and effective and everything. You just have a doctor say, oh, this is great. So why are you having to pay them X amount of dollars bonus to make sure if they get 95% of their pediatrician, gets 95% of the people in their practice and the children all fully vaccine up, and then you give them hundreds of thousands of dollars in return. This is not okay. So I think that if we actually start to regulate these, these industries, all of that downstream pushing and stuff, that's all gonna kind of start to resolve itself. And once it gets exposed 100%. Moreover, I think when it comes to our farming situation, Listen, maybe under fdr, incentivizing farmers getting out of the Great Depression. There was some good that they were trying to do with all of that, but all that did was led to, like, bad capitalism run amok and people, industrial farming and companies like Monsanto creating glyphosate and atrazine and all of these things that are poisoning us. Which is why you can eat all the bread you want in Europe and you can't eat any bread in the United States.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, that's the point. We don't have to have this on our wheat. We don't have to eat our pasta in our bread.
Dave Portnoy
We don't. But what I think, like, one of the biggest first things that they can do is if instead of incentivizing farmers to do massive monocropping with industrial fertilizer, instead start incentivizing farmers. And we, by the way, we must. Because to. To incentivize farmers to have regenerative organic farms.
Megyn Kelly
Ron Johnson was just saying that this is a top priority for him.
Dave Portnoy
They're onto it because our soil is dead. We only have so many more cycles left because the nutrients have all been sucked out of it through all the industrial fertilizing and the, and the tilling for monocropping. It's destroying our environment. So people that want to solve for all of these things, guys, we can help the environment and help the soil and bring down carbon in the environment, like all of these things, if we just go back to the way we were ought to be doing agriculture, and then you don't have to spray it with all the things because there's other, by the way, ways to mitigate pests and whatnot. But also that shouldn't be in a truck going 1500 miles to a grocery store that is not local. Grow it and sell it and eat it within a few days. That's the way it's supposed to be done. When we get back to more locally sourced.
Ted Cruz
You've heard us talk before about the effort by Legacy Media to stop you from accessing shows like this one. They do it by eliminating spectrum available to consumers like you to access shows like this one. They say it's a national defense issue. Absurdly enough, while Trump isn't buying it, neither is Senator Ted Cruz. In the big beautiful bill, Republicans have heard your voice and they're providing more spectrum. So what does that mean for you? It can reduce your monthly broadband bill and preserve your ability to watch, listen and stream all the content that you choose, not what's chosen for you by some big cable provider. The sale of Spectrum will also generate tens of billions of dollars to reduce our national debt. What's not to love about that? Don't let the giant cable providers and legacy media continue to filter your information. Tell your senator and your member of Congress to work with Senator Cruz and President Trump to expand Spectrum and end the legacy media monopoly for good. You can learn more@endthecableopoly.org I hear we.
Megyn Kelly
Have something in common, and that is our mutual love for Meghan Markle.
Andrew Schultz
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
I hear you're ready to endorse her for president.
Andrew Schultz
I like her now. I've come around on her because I, since I'm a little kid, love con artists. I think they're great. I think they're fun. They're an important part of America and the tapestry of our country. They, to me, exude a kind of effortless humor. They're very funny. And I find her to be a great con artist. One of the great con artists. One of the greats. You know, this is someone who came to prominence marrying into the royal family, claiming they were racist, claiming she wanted to dedicate herself to uplifting young women around the world, and is now selling jam at Target.
Megyn Kelly
It. Yes.
Andrew Schultz
That's beautiful. She moved to the richest and widest area of our country. Mono.
Megyn Kelly
Absolutely.
Andrew Schultz
And makes honey. There's nothing better than that. From where she started to where she is now. And that's what I think a lot of it is. I think a lot of people that claim to be really evolved, people who really want to help other people are just trying to. She just wants a line of consumer goods.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
That's all she wants.
Megyn Kelly
She. We actually give it to her. We just looked this up. So she. There was a sound bite of her saying she really wanted her merch that she's selling to. To be prestige.
Andrew Schultz
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
Not prestigious. You want it to be prestige.
Tim Dillon
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
But at like, a price point everyone can afford.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
So I. We looked it up. She's got a raspberry spread under the. As ever.
Andrew Schultz
Right.
Megyn Kelly
Raspberry spread. You can get it for 14 or you can get it at Walmart under the smucker's label for $3 and 47 cents.
Andrew Schultz
Right.
Megyn Kelly
Herbal Lemon ginger tea, as ever, will charge you $12. Or you can get it from Yogi for $4.46. Shortbread cookie mix, as ever, will charge you $14. My better batch, which is high end, 7.99. Right. Then there's wildflower honey with honeycomb. As ever, $28. Amazon, $11.
Steve Bannon
Right.
Megyn Kelly
And then there's crepe mix, which you can get from her for 14 bucks. Or you can get it from New Hope Mills for $5.
Andrew Schultz
Yep.
Megyn Kelly
So you tell me whether this person.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Has actually landed the plane.
Dave Portnoy
Right.
Megyn Kelly
On prestige, but totally affordable.
Andrew Schultz
Well, what's brilliant about what she's doing is she knows people want to spend money. And spending money makes them feel like they're getting something that's better, even though it might not necessarily be true.
Megyn Kelly
Because.
Andrew Schultz
And I think it's brilliant. I, I. You can tell when you watch the show. She thinks people out. Just, we're all animals. And that's her view. She just thinks we're all monsters and. And we're all just kind of pigs in the mud and that she's helping us.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
With jam.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
And honey. It's also very weirdly British, isn't it?
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Well, there's flowers, sprinkles. Isn't it her garden?
Tim Dillon
It's kind of.
Andrew Schultz
Of oddly British for somebody who went over there and realized it was just a racist. Horrible place. Does a lot of jam and tea and honey.
Megyn Kelly
And why is she using all the, like, the royal crown on her stationary? I thought she hated being a royal. I thought. I thought she wanted to eschew the royal life and come back to America.
Andrew Schultz
Well, it seems. It's just very interesting. And seeing it all happen in real time fills me with just. It. It fills me with a. A recog. Like a. A I. I recognize how. How much this was the plan the whole time. And you gotta. It's got. You gotta give your hats off to her.
Megyn Kelly
It's hard to enhance your brand that quickly. Like, no. Get your name out there in a.
Andrew Schultz
No one needs honey.
Megyn Kelly
No.
Andrew Schultz
Right now.
Megyn Kelly
No.
Andrew Schultz
No one needs jam. There's not one systemic racist problem that she's. That, like, no one needs jam. There's not one person wrongly accused of something or whatever. Doesn't have money for a lawyer that's looking for elderberries or wildflowers or whatever the hell she's talking about. The only people that are concerned with this stuff are people like. She lives in an area, Montecito, that's so wealthy, they're not even on earth anymore. And it's a beautiful area. It's great area. But they float around and they have tea and they pick flowers. They live in a fairy tale.
Megyn Kelly
She makes sun tea.
Andrew Schultz
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
Sun tea. And, like, we all have time to do.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. She just. They kind of sit around in their backyards and they enjoy this. And they smell lavender and stuff like that. Like that.
Megyn Kelly
And that's not how you're living in LA right now.
Andrew Schultz
It's not how we're living. No, we're. We're in. We're sitting by our doors with guns.
Megyn Kelly
Normal people.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, we're sitting by the door with a gun, waiting for someone to come in. That's how we're living.
Megyn Kelly
And check the sun tea.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one's making. If. If you have honey in your house, it's. You're using it as a weapon.
Megyn Kelly
You don't have a local beekeeper?
Andrew Schultz
No, there's no local beekeeper. There's no gardens.
Dave Portnoy
They job.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Well, I have a treat for you because in addition to her new Netflix show.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
She has launched yet another podcast.
Andrew Schultz
Thank God.
Megyn Kelly
This one is about.
Andrew Schultz
Thank God.
Megyn Kelly
Yes. This one is about founders. What's. How did she say?
Andrew Schultz
Is it all female founders?
Megyn Kelly
Yes, please. I think it's all female founders.
Andrew Schultz
Is it female founders? Female founders, Right.
Megyn Kelly
Professions of a female founder.
Andrew Schultz
God, what are they thinking about? About these female founders?
Megyn Kelly
Oh, here you go.
Andrew Schultz
What are they doing?
Megyn Kelly
She starts with herself because she now considers herself she's the founder.
Andrew Schultz
It's hard to find when you are married to a prince. How do you start a business?
Megyn Kelly
See who.
Andrew Schultz
That's a real question. Because the struggle she had to go through being married to a prince and being one of the most famous people in the world. How do you start a business when you're rich and famous?
Megyn Kelly
Your castle's too small.
Andrew Schultz
It's hard.
Megyn Kelly
Your. Your grandmother, your. Your. Your spouse's grandmother doesn't seem to really like you and then dies.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
I mean, like, your one greatest connection is now out.
Andrew Schultz
Thank God. Because I want to know how this all happened, and I want to get into the mind of the female founder.
Megyn Kelly
Here we go. Here's. Here's this founder discussing, I think.
Andrew Schultz
Remember when she pretended to like poor people? That lasted a few weeks.
Megyn Kelly
Sex workers. I remember that with her inspo messages. Here she is on her new podcast. Let's be honest. Launching a business, it can be so overwhelming. Even with the best of team. Whew. It'll keep you up at night. For example, a month ago, I was absolutely consumed with packaging boxes. That's all I could think about. And I would sit there doing the unboxing in my head.
Marco Rubio
Is there tissue paper?
Megyn Kelly
What about the packing peanuts? But they're biodegradable. And where does the sticker go? And hold on. What size of the box is gonna be? And no, that's not gonna fit all the excuse. Oh, my. Gosh and then someone says, but you don't wanna brand the outside of the box because a porch pirate had never heard that before. What's a porch pirate? And then I'm sitting there and I'm like, does any of this actually matter? Of course it matters. It matters at the beginning. But how much does it matter? Oh, my God.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. I mean, it's. Well, she's also. It's, you know, she's kept up at night because she's, you know, half the staff quit.
Megyn Kelly
That's right.
Andrew Schultz
They quit.
Megyn Kelly
On any given day.
Andrew Schultz
On any given day, the staff will quit it because she just, you know, launches into a tirade and for whatever reason, they feel unsafe.
Megyn Kelly
She's been accused multiple times of being a bullying abuser.
Andrew Schultz
Well, she's throwing honey at people's heads and stuff. So she's kept up at night wondering about what lawsuits, who's coming from when because of the abusive behavior towards the staff.
Megyn Kelly
Like that. Didn't that sound bite just hit so many of the leftist boxes? Like, are they biodegradable?
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. Yes.
Megyn Kelly
And what does the packaging?
Andrew Schultz
Well, what I like about her, I actually. I've gone the other way now because now that she's coming out as a monster, I like. Like, I'm actually on board now because I'm into it. Because now, by the way, she's no longer even. There's no longer even an attempt. It's such a thinly veiled attempt to be this conscientious person. You know, she's really just saying, like, I'm a founder. Yeah, yeah, I'm a founder, and I'm a big business tycoon. And it's tough for me.
Megyn Kelly
Can I tell you, she's not the only extremely rich woman.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
Who, you know, in her case, it's questionable, but in a lot of these other women's cases, they. Their husbands are multimillionaires or billionaires. And then the women, like, open a charity.
Andrew Schultz
Yes.
Megyn Kelly
Or like, give their money to somebody and then they're like, I'm an entrepreneur. I'm an entrepreneur.
Andrew Schultz
It's like, okay, I'm a founder.
Megyn Kelly
Look, I appreciate.
Andrew Schultz
I've connected people with jam.
Megyn Kelly
Right. Like, yeah, I see that your husband made billions of dollars.
Andrew Schultz
Right.
Megyn Kelly
The fact that you spent some of it. Right. Doesn't make you a founder.
Andrew Schultz
Well, it's also. She never cared. You know, it was all about. In the beginning. It was all about, like, unwinding the systems of oppression.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
They remember.
Megyn Kelly
That's done. Didn't, you know, remember that you saw.
Andrew Schultz
That if you remember that, it was like she would go to, like a third world country and there'd be a bunch of kids dancing and she'd take a photo with them. Now it seems much more about like she's looking at, like, Gwyneth Paltrow, what Gwyneth Paltrow did with her store.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Andrew Schultz
Goop or whatever. It's.
Megyn Kelly
I think it's goop.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. And I think she's looking at that going, that's what she wants to be. She wants to be Martha Stewart.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah. Although what I found out after the fact was she launched her show with showing you how to make this one recipe. It's like one pot pasta. You make it on the stove. And then everybody flooded Twitter with the fact that that apparently is a Martha Stewart recipe.
Andrew Schultz
Sure.
Megyn Kelly
That's apparently very well known in Martha Stewart land.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Megyn Kelly
So even the inaugural girl episode is. Is cheating off of somebody else's.
Andrew Schultz
Well, I mean, you gotta hand it to her. She knows that we don't have a memory.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Andrew Schultz
The country doesn't have a memory. We have a fatally short memory. And we're kind of tolerant of however people want to reintroduce themselves in the moment.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Andrew Schultz
So she understands America. I didn't know better than. Than I do. Or maybe you do, because she gets it. We love the huckster. We root for the huckster.
Megyn Kelly
Yes.
Andrew Schultz
We root for kind of the criminal sometimes. And she's kind of ass that role of going, this is who I am today.
Ted Cruz
You've heard us talk before about the effort by legacy media to stop you from accessing shows like this one. They do it by eliminating spectrum available to consumers like you to access shows like this one. They say it's a national defense issue. Absurdly enough. While Trump isn't buying it, neither is Senator Ted Cruz. In the big beautiful bill, Republicans have heard your voice and they're providing more spectrum. So what does that mean for you? It can reduce your monthly broadband bill and preserve your ability to watch, listen, and stream all the content that you choose, not what's chosen for you by some big cable provider. The sale of spectrum will also generate tens of billions of dollars to reduce our national debt. What's not to love about that? Don't let the giant cable providers and legacy media continue to filter your information. Tell your senator and your member of Congress to work with Senator Cruz and President Trump to expand spectrum and end the legacy media monopoly for good. You can learn more@endthecableopoly.org we gotta talk about Bill Belichick.
Steve Bannon
You ripped him.
Megyn Kelly
Okay. I mean, I thought it was elder abuse. I like, honestly, what I saw there was Dr. Jill had Dr. Jill vibes, this overly aggressive younger partner who's in this. Like, apparently he looked infirm to me. The way he was answering those questions like, man, who's being taken advantage of. And all I could think was, his family needs to do an intervention and get this woman off of his back. But can you set the stage for us on, like, what. What's happening with this guy?
Steve Bannon
I'll start by saying I am a die hard New England Patriots fan.
Megyn Kelly
Yeah, you're from Boston.
Steve Bannon
Die hard. I love Bill Belichick. He's like, my guy has brought so many championships. I know him personally. He lives on Nantucket. I live on Nantucket. I've met George in. So it's a very awkward thing to see. I also watch that show CBS Sunday Morning with the interview. It's like my feel good show. I just like it. I like nature, there's some politics, whatever. But for the most part, that is a. Drink your coffee, eat your bagel, feel good show. So I was not expecting this interview. I was squirming. I don't know what to expect. I don't know what to think about. Certainly was awkward. I've heard people say, you know, is she taking advantage of him? Well, he's taking advantage of her. He's sleeping with a. A very attractive young girl, 50 years younger. I don't know why she's so involved. Like, I really don't. I've met her. She's nice enough. It. She's running the whole show. I've known that a couple months ago.
Megyn Kelly
How so?
Steve Bannon
Like, she every. Every piece of Bill Belichick business goes through her. Like, she is basically let. She would act like if that was maybe not in a romantic relationship. And that's his PR manager or like an agent. Yeah. Nobody's blinking at that. Like, that happens, I'm sure, a lot with celebrity. We're not going to talk about it now. You combine it with Bill Belichick, who's gruff with the media and generally always handles himself. It's just a very awkward situation. The age gap is huge, clearly. But she runs the show. There's rumors. Hard Knocks for HBO was supposed to do North Carolina. She shut that down. The state.
Megyn Kelly
That's where he's the coach now.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, he's the coach there. So it's just. It's such a juxtaposition of a guy who seemingly had no media savvy. But was always just straight forward, no time for the media. Now having his life run by a 25 year old, it certainly is eye opening for a guy like me. I also know I'm going to run into probably them in Nantucket and I'm carrying my watermelon out of Stop and Shop and I don't want it to be an awkward conversation playing all on me. But it went super viral. I mean, it's all anybody's talking about. It's all any, because it's just such a departure from how a sports fan, Patriot fan, everybody thought of Bill Belichick.
Megyn Kelly
So explain that to me because we watch the. I come into this like at a left field. I don't, I know who he is, of course. Even I know who Bill Belichick, greatest.
Steve Bannon
Coach of all time.
Megyn Kelly
Time. But I don't follow his, you know, I didn't, I didn't know about the girlfriend and all that. To me, he looked out of it, like he seemed confused. But I've never ever seen him give.
Steve Bannon
So I've seen a lot of people like, he's wearing a holy sweatshirt. That's what he does. Like that, that is his look.
Megyn Kelly
Does he talk like that? Like, does he look confused?
Steve Bannon
Generally, he, he generally, if he doesn't want to answer a question, he grumbles and he says, I'm not going to answer that. He's famous for not answering questions. He's never media savvy. Him going on a book tour, which is what he was doing, seems like the last thing he would ever do in a million years. If she wasn't there, I would anticipate him just being like, I'm not going to answer it. He's, he's rarely conducting interviews that he has no interest and he just doesn't care for the media or what they think. The thing that he said that was the most accurate is probably I don't care what people think about me. And clearly he doesn't care. But I've never seen him defer to anybody like that. That is so shocking. Yeah, like if someone else is speaking for him, that never happens. He speaks for himself loudly through his actions, clearly, and is always like a general in, in the commander of the room, really. So to see him basically give what appears to be control of his life to her is shocking.
Megyn Kelly
Most of the audience has probably seen the clip by now, but just in case they haven't, let's play it for them. Let's play the one where she interrupts. This is Bill Belichick on CBS. This Morning with anchor Tony Dokapoel and his 24 year old girlfriend who's 49 years younger than he is interrupting the interview. Watch.
Steve Bannon
The other change For Belichick is 24 year old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse.
Tim Dillon
As he writes in his book.
Marco Rubio
Make sure that that's the.
Tim Dillon
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. You have Jordan right over there. Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it. How do you deal with that?
Megyn Kelly
Never been too worried about what everybody else thinks.
Tim Dillon
Just try to do what I feel.
Megyn Kelly
Like is best for me and what's right.
Tim Dillon
How did you guys meet?
Steve Bannon
That's the truth.
Marco Rubio
Not talking about, about this.
Tim Dillon
No, no. It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.
Megyn Kelly
Okay, so now she said he's. How did you meet? And she interjects not commenting about this. And there are reports that she actually interjected multiple times. CBS only chose to show the one just to give the audience a, a true sense of what, how, how this thing.
Steve Bannon
And it's about the book. And, and to CBS's defense, she, that quote that he, she is. The museum is in the book.
Megyn Kelly
It's in the book. Yeah, exactly. So now this fight started unfolding online. This is via the Daily Mail involving Belichick's daughter in law. She's married to his son and her name is Jennifer. She's married to his son, Steve Belichick. Some people were defending Jordan, the girlfriend. For example. Somebody posted, oh, former New England Patriots star Julian Edelman saw that, you know him stuck up for her, saying she was merely acting. How any PR person would. Comedian Nikki Glaser also defended Hudson saying 100% she's acting as his publicist. Publicists do this during interviews. People are out for blood. And first of all, I'll tell you what Jennifer, the daughter in law said. But I have done countless interviews. Countless. I've both given as the subject of them and done, conducted literally has this. Never. I've never seen this happen. Never. The PR people will come to you before the interview and they will beg you not to cover or ask after.
Steve Bannon
For it to be cut.
Megyn Kelly
Yes, exactly. That's their job. As a journalist and Tony Dokapo is a journalist. You would say, thank you for your input. That's it. You would never make a promise ever. It's literally considered unethical to say I won't ask about that. You know, at most I'VE ever heard somebody say is we can't make you any promises, but you know, we're not that interested in that subject. Like a wink in an out. But never, never has a PR person, person ever interviewed interjected into, into an.
Steve Bannon
In the middle of it.
Dave Portnoy
No.
Steve Bannon
We get people asking no. If someone doesn't want to talk about it, we generally want. Because people generally want to talk about what you are asking not to talk about. So we won't do it. It's strange. I. I don't agree with that. It was different rules.
Megyn Kelly
If it's like a host, you know what I mean? If you're sitting to somebody who doesn't consider themselves a journalist, very different. And by the way, this is how talk shows get away with it all the time. I've been asked to go on a bunch of talk shows, including Tamron Hall's like five years ago, and her executive producer said, we'll give you all the questions in advance. I'm like, I'm not doing that. I felt like I don't want that.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, right.
Megyn Kelly
So it's. She got. Got away with it because they consider that a talk show. But she's not, I guess calling herself a journalist anymore at least wasn't for that show. Okay, so then Jennifer Belichick's daughter, I'm dying to hear this, weighs in and says, publicists act in a professional matter and do not storm on storm offset delaying an interview.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. So I know them too. This is like. And that probably tells you everything you need to know about how the family. And that's natural. Natural. There's a story that came out in the New York Post, I think yesterday that she accumulated like $10 million of real estate very quickly. So I'm sure the family, based on that quote, is a little like, what is going on here? And it's just this is a guy that is not a pushover. He has built his reputation on being like a gruff kind of guy who needs everything particular and detail oriented. It's just very strange to see he's the guy.
Megyn Kelly
Tim Walsh was trying to convince us. Us he was. No. Jazz hands.
Steve Bannon
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
Football.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
I don't even know if even he.
Dave Portnoy
Was the guy, man.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, he was trying to, I think be more like a gronk guy, but who knows?
Megyn Kelly
Well, there's more. So he. You know about this because I saw you commented on it. So Bill Belichick posted a statement on the UNC University of North Carolina. Chapel Hill is where he coaches, right? Chapel Hill, Yep. And he, he wrote as follows. I agreed to speak with CBS Sunday Morning to promote my new book, the Art of Winning. Prior to the interview, I clearly communicated with my publicist. So he's not even saying he told Tony Dokapoel or the CBS publicist. I clearly communicated with my publicist at Simon and Schuster that any promotional interviews I participated in would agree to focus solely on the contents of the book. Unfortunately, that expectation was not honored. During the interview, I was surprised when unrelated topics were introduced and I repeatedly expressed to the reporter Tony Dokapo, and the producers that I preferred to keep the conversation centered on the book talk. After this occurred several times, Jordan, with whom I share both the personal and professional relationship, stepped in to reiterate that point and help refocus the discussion. She was not deflecting any specific question or topic. I'm sorry, Bill, but she was but was simply doing her job to ensure the interview stayed on track. Some of the clips made it appear as though we were avoiding the question of how we met. But we've been open about the fact that Jordan I met on a flight to Palm beach in 2021 and goes on for them, saying these are just selectedly, selectively edited clips suggested a false narrative that Jordan was attempting to control the conversation, which is simply not true.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, I'm like white knuckling the table. In my years following Bill Belichick, I would say my knowledge of him. There's roughly 0% chance he wrote that he just doesn't care generally what anyone thinks about him. So to go write that, that, that. My guess would be Jordan wrote that the fact it is on the North Carolina website is insane, right? It's just insane. It's shocking. Again, it's I'm speaking to all Patriot fans, Boston people. This guy. Like, if you could have predicted this, people would say you're living in a bizarro world. It's just so strange in this long email. Crazy. The public statement, crazy. But I'm not even sure he knows.
Megyn Kelly
That was written right?
Steve Bannon
Like he may not You've heard us.
Ted Cruz
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Megyn Kelly
Fit into all of this?
Caroline Levitt
Well, the Arctic, which has gotten very little attention, but the Arctic Circle and the Arctic region is going to become critical for shipping lanes, for how do you get some of this energy that's going to be produced under President Trump? These energies rely on shipping lanes. The Arctic is some of the most valuable shipping lanes in the world. As some of the ice is melting, it's become more and more navigable. We need to be able to defend that. So if you project what the Chinese have done, it is just a matter of time before, because they are not an Arctic power, they do not have an Arctic presence. So they need to be able to have somewhere that they can stage from. And it is completely realistic to believe that the Chinese will eventually, maybe in the short term, try to do in Greenland what they have done at the Panama Canal and in other places, and that is install facilities that give them access to the Arctic with the COVID of a Chinese company, but that in reality serve a dual purpose, that in a moment of conflict, they could send naval vessels to that facility and operate from there. And that is completely unacceptable to the national security of the world and to the United States, the security of the world and the national security of the United States. So the question becomes, if the Chinese begin to threaten Greenland, do we really trust that that is not a place where those deals are going to be made? Do we really trust that that is not a place where they would not intervene?
Megyn Kelly
You don't think Denmark would stop them?
Caroline Levitt
I think that's been the president's point, and that is that Denmark can't stop them. They would rely on the United States to do so. And so his point is, if the United States is on the hook to provide, as we are now, we have a defense agreement with them to protect Greenland if it comes under assault. If we're already on the hook for having to do that, then we might as well have more control over what happens there. And so I know it's a delicate topic for Denmark, but it's again, a national Interest item for the United States.
Megyn Kelly
So there was a conference call between President Trump and the Danish prime minister. Apparently didn't go very well. Reportedly involved some sort of a meltdown on the prime minister's part. They don't want to give it up. So what does that. What options does that leave us? Because President Trump did not rule out economic or potentially military use?
Caroline Levitt
Well, I think President Trump's. What he has said publicly is he wants to buy it, he wants to pay for it. And how we worked on something like that, how something like that is approached, obviously, is probably done better in the appropriate form. A lot of this stuff is done publicly, and it's not helpful because it puts the other side in a tough spot domestically. So those conversations are going to happen. But this is not a joke. Like, what he is saying is pretty accurate. People have been talking about it for years. We do have. This is not about acquiring land for the purpose of acquiring land. This is in our national interest, and it needs to be solved. President Trump's put out there what he intends to do, which is to purchase it. I wasn't privy to that phone call, but I imagine the phone call went the way a lot of these phone calls go. And that is, he just speaks bluntly and frankly with people. And ultimately, I think diplomacy in many cases works better when you're straightforward as opposed to using platitudes and language. That translates to nothing.
Megyn Kelly
So when President Trump said he might use economic or military coercion, what does that mean? What does that mean, military coercion?
Caroline Levitt
Well, I don't remember him saying military coercion. He did. He was asked, you know, what would you rule out?
Megyn Kelly
Would you rule it out?
Caroline Levitt
Right. I don't think he's in the. Listen, he also brings to this.
Megyn Kelly
He said, no, I won't rule it.
Caroline Levitt
Out because he brings to this. This is a businessman who's involved in politics, not a politician involved in politics. So he approaches these issues from a transactional business point of view. So he is not going to begin what he views as a negotiation or a conversation by taking leverage off the table. And that's a tactic that that's used all the time in business. It's being applied to foreign policy, and I think to great effect. In the first term, you look at the Abraham Accords, and the Democrats mocked the Abraham Accords when they were made. And then by the end of the Biden administration, they became the linchpin of a lot of what we're hoping to build on. That never would have happened had there not been a transactional approach. You look at what his envoy to the Middle East, Steve Woodkoff, has achieved. The Biden administration asked Witkoff, they asked for him to be involved in, in these conversations. He has brought a businessman's approach to a very delicate and intractable foreign policy challenge and delivered a cease fire. That obviously is tenuous and has long term challenges to it. But there are hostages being released every day. That didn't happen for over a year and a half until he became involved. And that's the President's envoy and very close friend who's brought the same kind of business approach to some of these challenges.
Megyn Kelly
So let's look forward four years. Does the US Own Greenland?
Caroline Levitt
We'll see. I mean, obviously that's the President's priority and he has made that point. I think that what I can tell you about four years without getting into specifics because I don't, you know, I'm not. We're not in a position yet to discuss exactly how we'll proceed tactically. What I think you can rest assured of is that four years from now, our interest in the Arctic will be more secure. Our interest in the Panama Canal will be more secure. Our partnerships in the Western hemisphere will be strong.
Megyn Kelly
Stronger.
Caroline Levitt
We'll be stronger. We need to understand a lot of these countries in Central America, they're not destination sites. They are countries that migrants come through and that these human trafficking rings run people through. It creates tremendous instability for these countries at a tremendous cost as well. They would welcome help in stopping that migration corridor from continuing because it's destabilizing their countries. So I think we're going to have a Western Hemisphere that's more secure in our national interests in all parts of the world. That's the goal. Are going to be more secure from the Arctic to Central America to even Africa.
Tim Dillon
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Megyn Kelly
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Dave Portnoy
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Tim Dillon
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Caroline Levitt
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Summary of "Best MK Show In-Person Moments of 2025" – The Megyn Kelly Show
Release Date: June 16, 2025
The June 16, 2025 episode of The Megyn Kelly Show features a compilation of in-person interviews with notable figures, including comedians Andrew Schulz and Tim Dillon, media personality Dave Portnoy, legal analyst Karoline Levitt, and Senator Marco Rubio. This bonus episode captures candid and profound conversations spanning personal struggles, political insights, and cultural critiques, providing listeners with a rich and engaging experience.
Timestamp: 03:21 – 08:09
Comedian Tim Dillon opens up about his and his partner Emma's struggles with fertility, delving into the emotional and physical challenges of undergoing In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). Dillon candidly discusses the initial misconceptions about infertility being solely a woman's issue and his own fears and insecurities regarding his sperm quality.
Dillon highlights the isolating nature of fertility issues and the societal stigma surrounding them. He describes the humbling experience of visiting an IVF clinic and the personal growth that comes from facing such vulnerabilities.
The conversation also touches on the humorous and awkward moments during the IVF process, emphasizing the importance of empathy and openness in discussing personal health challenges.
Timestamp: 17:38 – 22:08
Senator Marco Rubio shares his experiences as a new father navigating the demanding world of politics. Born in July, Rubio discusses the challenges of raising his son Nicholas ("Nico") amidst a hectic political schedule, including the traumatic event of President Trump being shot shortly after his son's birth.
Rubio emphasizes the balance between professional responsibilities and personal life, highlighting the support system that enables him to excel both as a politician and a dedicated father.
He also addresses the evolving perception of working mothers within the conservative movement, advocating for the recognition that women can successfully juggle familial and professional roles.
Timestamp: 22:25 – 40:26
In an intense segment, Senator Rubio engages with Dave Portnoy and Andrew Schulz to discuss government inefficiencies, particularly focusing on fraudulent activities within Social Security Administration.
The trio critiques the media's portrayal of government fraud and underscores the administration's commitment to transparency and accountability.
The conversation transitions to broader health policies, including the investigation into the rise of chronic diseases and the potential impacts of vaccines, pesticides, and processed foods on public health. They advocate for stricter regulations and highlight the need for a return to sustainable farming practices.
Additionally, national security concerns regarding Greenland and the Arctic region are discussed, with Rubio detailing the strategic importance of these areas against potential Chinese expansion.
Timestamp: 41:31 – End
In a satirical and critical segment, Andrew Schulz and Dave Portnoy join Megyn Kelly to mock Meghan Markle's entrepreneurial efforts. They dissect her product lines, comparing her offerings to more affordable and widely available alternatives, questioning the authenticity and necessity of her ventures.
The trio scrutinizes Markle's branding strategies, suggesting that her products are overpriced imitations of established brands. They also critique her public persona and business tactics, portraying her as a mere opportunist capitalizing on her fame.
This segment highlights the show's ability to blend humor with pointed criticism, offering listeners a humorous take on celebrity culture and branding.
Tim Dillon [03:21]: "At first, like, you know, this is the most, like, male thing. Like, but it's... I assumed that the reason why we couldn't is because it was her fault."
Marco Rubio [21:04]: "I would reject that [the notion that one cannot balance motherhood and a career]. It's a bad choice. Is it a tough choice? Absolutely."
Dave Portnoy [34:53]: "You know, I love that even when people are saying like, 'Oh, you better get that in writing and don't trust that guy,' Trump meant it."
Andrew Schulz [41:36]: "I like her now. I've come around on her because I, since I'm a little kid, love con artists."
This bonus episode of The Megyn Kelly Show offers a multifaceted exploration of personal and political landscapes through the candid testimonies of its guests. From the intimate struggles of fertility to the intricate balances of political life, and from policy debates to cultural critiques, the episode provides listeners with a comprehensive and engaging narrative. Notable for its blend of humor, honesty, and incisive commentary, the episode stands out as a compelling listen for those interested in the intersections of personal experience and broader societal issues.